Think of a /co/ character.

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Works as a stripper for Hydra, takes S.H.I.E.L.D agents to the back VIP room and kills them, is a size queen always looking for a new villain to fill her up, her last fling was with Sabertooth.

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I'll go first:

The year is 2099. It's a time of great inovation and technological advancement. Neon light dresses the roads, as humanity is slowly conquering the stars. Colonies on Mars and the Moon are thriving. Earth is no longer in danger. Everything changes, evolves, progresses, with a fast pace at that.

Victor is a theoretical physicist. A pretty important one at that. Head of a whole division at one of the best research centers, AIM AKA Advanced Idea Mechanics. He used to be full of wonder and questions, but now... The current world is not very kind on such concepts. Silly theories and children's stories, they say. And you cannot deny the wonders of today's climate, really. Everything seems so... perfect. And so Victor leads an enjoyable life. Fame, money, even women,once in every blue moon. He's not unhappy, really. A tad dissapointed, but a far cry from the days of struggling to make ends meet.

And today is the day of their most daring experiment. An interdimensional portal to... somewhere... If only they knew...

Anyway, it's a reworking of something I posted a few days ago. Victor is not a gypsy peasant here,but instead head of a team that manages to break into the world of Eldritch Horrors. This experience changes him, and he starts researching the occult. In this world, Strange has replaced the Ancient One, and Latveria is a small country existing between Italy and Greece, once being the side-jewel of the Roman & Byzantine Empires.

I find the idea of magic in a technologically advanced setting interesting, because it's rarely tackled, and you can do a whole lot with it.

For example, Wong could now be an A.I. The Astral Plane could be plugging into the Source Code of the Universe and accessing a Matrix-like world.

Anyway, his suit would be a whole lot more tech-y & 2099 inspired. He starts off as a cold but ultimately good guy, but slowly turns more controlling. I have more if anybody's interested.

>>94356004
What's the new setting? Is it a HYDRA Controlled world and SHIELD is the Resistance?Otherwise,damn good concept.

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>>94356167
After she escaped the lab her would be pimp Zebra daddy tried to use her, she killed him and some of his girls told her to work at the club she goes there only to find out its owned by the Hellfire club working with Hydra.

>>94356247
I like it well enough. What's the world like?

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>>94356546
Sin city esqe with all the marvel heroes eather dead in hiding or taking up new roles (Psylocke as a prison warden, Logan as a bouncer etc)

Laura has everything she thinks she wanted; Money, Men; a job killing fools, then a young Scott Summers walks into the strip club and asks her something she hasnt been asked by the seedy clientele she normally services, he asks her when she gets off work so they can go out for coffee apparently he has been in before to watch the Cuckoo triplets preform and Laura caught his eye.

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Laura stripper costumes; Cowgirl, Schoolgirl, Goth Princess, Cat girl.

>>94356678
>>94356829
I like this quite a lot anon. It'd make a nice MAX Comic.

Come on, nobody wants to play?

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They say the Apocalypse has come. That we have sunk down once again into an age of myth. I heard that from someone I met along the road. He was a learned man, from a time when the contents of books had worth in the world. He told me that what we saw, back when it all began, the plagues, the starvation, the massacres, the suicides, they were all signs of what had just become real. He said, and I remember this exactly, "The conceptual has become literal." That Pestilence, and Famine, and War, and Death, they ride upon this Godforsaken Earth. Then he stepped off the rooftop.

I believe the Horsemen ride the Earth. But I do not believe God has forsaken this world. 'Apocalypse,' in the original Greek, does not mean 'end of the world.' It means 'revelation.' And the ultimate truth of the Book of Revelations, the Book of Apocalypse, is that despite all the horrors of Hell, what is good and right shall win.

If this is an age of myths, then it is also an age of heroes. If Hell can send its servants incarnate, then so can Heaven. Where Pestilence rode, Healing will follow. Where Famine rode, Abundance will follow. Where War rode, Peace will follow.

And even when Satan unleashes Death, have faith, my children. For sooner or later, he shall face the Vengeance of the Lord.

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>>94356989
to early in the day, just keep the thread alive a while then more will post

Stripper Cuckoos would do a color coordinated school girl routine.

>>94357007
Daaan anon, that's some nice wording you've got there. Instead of the Rider being just a force of punishment and destruction, he's someone who restores.

Good stuff.

>>94357032
Heh, it's nighttime for me. I figured it was around 14:00 over in the US.

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>>94357092
its 1:17 and I live in central USA

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I just like the idea of a Laura who is built for sex

Super-Bump

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>>94355925
Zoom

Crippled from childhood, Eobard Thawne always dreamed of being able to run as fast as his hero, the Flash. In a desperate, yet ultimately unsuccessful attempt to travel back to the Flash's time and ask him how to replicate his legendary Speed Force powers, Eobard ended up exposed to the resident Speed Force energies of the Cosmic Threadmill, the Flash's time machine. Eobard mutated into a Speed Force-using metahuman, but one very different from his idealized hero. Instead of accessing any sort of acceleration, Eobard mastered time and destination, allowing him to "zoom in" to any area he can see or visualize which exists in present, past or future. The drawback is his need to know exactly how the area looks like at that point of time to teleport there, making him dependent on archived footage/livestreams/information from other time travelers, else he risks ending up in a warped alternate universe, or even ceasing existence by transporting himself into a fictional world that exists only on the pages of a book. He'd be a Silver Age-style time traveling thief at first, before crossing paths with Barry again and again and slowly growing to despise him and envy his powers.

>>94358819
Huh, damn good anon. So he'd be a human TARDIS in a way?

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She's a prietess of Artemis in a world ruled by different Pantheons.
She is secretely part of an organisation of humans who fight for not being ruled by the gods anymore. Little does she know that the leader of the group, Agamemnon, is Loki's son and is tricking them into weakening the greek gods so that Asgard could conquer them.
Instead of he super science bow, she is using a magic one, like Hank in D&D.

>>94356073
That could be a fine base for something. It feels like it's lacking punch though. That final hook that would really sell me on it.

>>94361298
Uh... Doom feels he must restore the Byzantine & Roman Empires, so he prepares for war against the modern Ottoman Caliphate? So you have a modern day conqueror who uses magic in a futuristic environment.

>Ricochet (Peter Parker)
His parents both lived, giving him the opportunity to enjoy a much happier childhood and be trained by badasses.
He works for Dr. Connors trying to find a cure for Daredevil's blindness (and hopefully in general) before some of Wisk's goons break in and apparently kill Connors and expose Peter to the formula they were working on.
Bolstered by his anger, the serum takes effect immediately and makes Parker superhuman ly fast and strong. He subdues all the men and swears vengeance against Fisk, training under Daredevil to help save New York.

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Peter Parker/Spider-Man except that he ends up killing Uncle Ben by accident.

So, Peter gets his powers same as usual, bit by a spider, however he decides to become a superhero instead of a wrestler first because he's a giant comic nerd. Life's hard for him both at home and at school due to bullying and living in poverty, with his aunt may and uncle ben struggling to make ends meet. He uses comics as an escape, so that's why he becomes excited and decides to become a hero when he gets his powers.
So he's going around fucking up at first because he's still a newbie when he sees a masked burgler break into a house. Spidey decides to try and stop it, but because of his inexperience he accidentally kills the thief.
The thief is unmasked and revealed to be Uncle Ben, who's in his 40-50s, and still physically able. Peter never takes off his mask because he's too ashamed to show himself and runs off. He never learns with great power comes great responsibility , and becomes at odds with and disillusioned over the idea of a hero. His home life with aunt may becomes worse, and the only reason he decides to keep going out is due to help from the guy who would've normally been uncle ben's killer, who's now a bum on the streets with a heart of gold that he saved.

What we end up with is a spider man who has to deal with an aunt who hates spiderman actively, the authorities and most of the superhero community at his throat ALONG side the threat of his regular cadre of villains with a few exceptions that he would work with, like sandman possibly because of his backstory would allow them to be like kindred spirits. Maybe he'd act as a thief and be involved in the criminal underworld, but either way he would have a no kill policy due to his trauma. Either way I think it'd be interesting to explore a spiderman who's even more actively disliked but for actual reasons.

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The Hulk but in a time period similar to that of Lovecraft novels

Essentially, Bruce Banner has been poisoned and crippled by gamma radiation and can't walk, but has not been actively transformed into the hulk via the g-bomb( as the technology is not quite there but it is getting close), it is more subtle but DOES put the potential deep inside of him.

He begins looking for a means to make him self healthy again so he can enjoy life with his wife Betty Brant (because why not) and begins to look into the occult realm and stumbles upon an eldritch ritual that may grant him the answers he seeks. Upon attempting the ritual he becomes infested by an evil demon from between dimensions or something very similar. This finds the evil in him and the hulk gene and amplifies it, turning him into a demonic beast similar in form to the hulk but much more grotesque and filled malicious intent. He nearly kills betty and numerous others in the ensuing rampage, but manages to stave of the ghoulish threat yet.. for now. He then takes it upon himself to embark on a quest to purge himself of the evil within and stop any other eldritch abominations (see what I did) that may have crawled out from the ritual (and others) in order to finally take back that which he has lost and put a stop to it once and for all.

Kinda looks like pic, but more nightmarish and Lovecraft inspired

>>94357146
>>94357404
>>94357068
>>94356829
>>94356678
>>94356004
I feel like these were written by the same person, if not my bad. But it would be quite the coincidence, either that or you're all just on the same wavelength

>>94361961
>Doom is the Serbia Strong / Remove Kebab Guy of his tiny eastern european nation of Latveria but with all the magical and technological skills of canon Doom?

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In a shocking twist, Hydra actually succeeded in conquering the world at the end of WW2. However, individual cells of Hydra were designed as decentralized so that in the event of capture or betrayal, nobody would be able to leak the identities of everyone in Hydra and consequentially nobody's figured out yet that the entire marvel universe is composed of various Hydra agents spying on each other.

Except for the Red Skull who's actually a deep cover infiltrator from SHIELD.

>>94366319
Yup, pretty much. But like I said, Latveria is between Italy and Greece in my version, so he's more of a Med "they took our history" guy.

>>94365467
I like this! You actually put it in a different time/environment as well!

>>94356073
>>94361961
>>94366319
>>94370055
Dunno anon. I like this and all, but Doom being a gyppo is kinda crucial to the whole thing. You're better off changing Strange's origin. And it'd be more interesting, really. On one hand you've got his duties as Sorcerer Supreme, and on the other you've got his selfish desires.

>>94370465
Eh, whatever. Marvel made an Eastern-European Baron goddamn Black in the MCU, so... I don't give a damn. Besides, there are tons of Doom AUs, some even with him being a regular Prince/Royal.

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>Norman Osborn is really a Goblin from a Fantasyworld setting
>Goblins invented technology in a world of magic
>other races like Elves saw this as kind of heresy and genocided those little gobbos (but also because they were racists and goblins were dirty to them)
>Norman Osborn uses magic and technology devices to turn himself into a human and escapes to our world with his infant son
>teaches Harry everything he knows about Goblin tech and magic
>Norman get killed by some evil Elven cultists, Harry finds hin and wants justice
>with the help of magic and tech Harry becomes the Green Goblin to fight the supernatural evil in our world

Something like that... his toys and weapons are all tech merged qith magic and shit and the green Gobbo is now a Hero

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Civil War: 1863
Captain Steven Rodgers of the Fighting 69th Infantry has been given a secret mission by President Lincoln to sabotage the efforts of Confederate gun runner Anthony Stark. Joining him is freedman inventor Samuel Wilson, famous for his flying escape from a Baltimore shipyard.
They are also tasked with recruiting other gifted individuals for the war effort before Stark can get to them

I see the tech level being fantastic but more period appropriate. Stark does have a suit but its steam driven, Banner drinks radioactive material to become the Hulk, Pym is just a 10 foot giant etc. Rogers is just a scrappy little Irishman because there is no super solider serum and Falcons suit only glides.

>>94370795
Hot damn! I'm not kidding when I'm saying I'd read the hell out of this.

>>94370801
I think they already did something similar in a mini, but nevertheless a neat little idea that makes sense.

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There came a time when the old gods died. The brave died with the cunning. The noble perished, locked in battle with unleashed evil. It was the last day for them. An ancient era was passing in firey holocaust.

From the fires of the Great Disaster, a strange Fourth World arose from the old. A world of savagery, super-science, and sorcery. New Gods observe the Earth from the half-moons of Apokolips and New Genesis, watching as humanity picks up the pieces of their lost civilizations.

Among these survivors is Diana, a survivor of Ragnarok and an Amazon on a quest to find her lost home of Themyscira. The New Gods spectate her journey with trepidation, as this "Wonder Woman" can become either be a great ally or a terrible enemy.

>>94367682
>That picture
With how crazy Marvel's been recently, I'd believe it.

>>94355925
>Hobgoblin

He is living curse and the original goblin. Nobody knows his origin and past, He goes after people with good hearts and kill them (kind of like a reverse santa). He usually goes after peter parker, because he always ruins his plans on killing people.

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>>94372724
Plus, He is one that driven osborn into madness into believing that he was him.

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When Reed got a scholarship to the Baxter Research Centre he was ecstatic. After years of hard work and ridicule, he could finally have the chance to shine. His parents certainly didn't seem to think so ("it would've been better if you were a doctor Reed, you'd be making money right now"), but he was determined. He would do something great.

And so he arrived at Baxter, where he met a slew of interesting people. Famous scientists whose name were heard across the globe. And at the very top, the Storm Twins. Mechanical Genius Johnny & Biochemist Susan. Together they had singlehandedly revolutionized the field of prosthetics and augementation. As children of the Head Scientist, and known around the globe, they were like gods. And next to them Susan's fiance, the aristocrat Victor Van Damme.

Reed did feel out of place, but hey, at least things could only get better now. Right?

Basically this is an AU F4 where Reed is a complete underdog. He's a nobody competing with modern Einsteins in a foreign environment. When the accident happens, he's kept around because of his involvement, but nobody pays him any attention. The adventures still happen, but there's a rift between Reed and the rest.

Eventually he'd snap and go full-Maker, killing them and creating android copies. He'd build his own F4 and then "Stark Trek" the Universe. But as an unhinged, aloof, unbalanced guy with a huge skull.

>>94372821
Didn't you make a thread about this yesterday?

>>94373116
Yeah, but I figured I'dput this hereand see if anybody liked this. I'm also the DOOM 2099 guy. I posted that as a Strange story in another thread a few days back. I made some alterations, but I liked the concept well enough to share it again.

I will admit it's a bit stale. I have a nifty idea for Ultimate Reed as a supporting character in my X-Men idea. It'd be pretty sci-fi & involve the Inhumans as anatagonists. More "next step" than "muh allegory".

>>94373133
I want to hear more about this idea of Reed being an X-Men supporting character. Or heck, just tell me your X-Men idea.

>>94373163
It's pretty long, so I'll do it in greentext:

>mutants are the result of Celestial tampering
>cue 2001 Monoliths
>hence why they're considered part of a "race" when all they share are mutations
>mutants have bigger lifespans, are more beautiful, and generally the ones with better abillities are smarter, stronger, better in general
>some mutations were lowkey enough for them not to be discovered
>so humanity has progressed much faster
>we start around 2050 or so
>Earth has multiple colonies and has detected alien life, but that's kept a secret
>Xavier's School is located in Scotland, and the O5 are the original students alongside Logan, an old friend of Cuck's
>Magneto is an isolationist and has taken refugee in the Savage Land
>By 2050 the O5 have grown up and act as the "mascots" of mutantkind
>through clever PR mutants are not entirely hated
>they haven't faced any major villaisn thus far, just random mutant monsters and whatnot
>Trask is this Universe's Stark, ie having more money than God and with his hands in every weapon, tech-device or application

To cut right to the chase, Reed would take the role of TIM from Mass Effect. The story behind him would be that he and the F4 tried to become "mutants", but failed, with Reed being the only one whosurvived. his intellect started growing rapidly and his body stopped aging, so he took refugee in a space station and started manipulating events to push humanity forward and ensure the survival of mutantkind. As we delve into the more Sci-Fi parts like Shi'ar or Phoenix he'll start playing a more central role, but in the beginning he'd be nothing but a shadowy figure.

Meanwhile, Doom would be head of the Hellfire Club, masquareding as a Mutant, when in reality he's a Nobleman using Ancient Cosmic Science AKA Magic to pose as one. Further down the line, it'd be revealed he's actually an Inhuman,and after his exile and introduction ofthe Inhuman Royal Family he'd start a coup and attempt to become King.

>>94373263
I'd also change some nationalities and characteristics. Not colours, just ethnicity. For example:

>Beast is a German Biochemist
>Jean is Scottish and an Archeologist
>Warren is an English Nobleman with an interest in history
>Xavier is an English Lord & Genticist
>Bobby is an American Film Student
>Scott is a Greek Physicist
>Magneto was a Polish-Jewish Engineer
>Wanda is a French (daughterof Mags) Writer
>Gambit is an Italian Artist

And so on and so forth. For the most part the X-Men never received any education, so I'd change that. Xavier would want to create perfect mutants, educated and healthy, not just fighting machines.

>>94373263
>>94373304
Sounds neat. I could get behind this.

Do you think mutants in Marvel proper would be more popular if they had good PR from the get-go?

The explosion in the desert wasn't a prelude to kidnapping Tony Stark, but an attempt at killing him. Badly injured by the IED, his attackers thought they'd succeeded and they abandoned him.

In a very real sense, his "highly advanced medical prosthetic" line is accurate. The suit is something more along the lines of a robocop/metal gear series style cyborg body than merely armor which can be removed.

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Che Guevara's place in history is replaced by a young man who was born in prison, and traveled the world after he escaped. He traveled on the same motorcycle, became the same medical practitioner, and led the same revolution.

The change in his life was his early years, where prison formed enormous ambition in his heart. His people's revolution will come to a young Gotham, where his target is not some petty vigilante, but the capitalist pig Bruce Wayne himself.

Will Bruce be forced to reveal his identity as the crime-fighting vigilante, Batman, to confront his new adversary, the Bane of Santiago?

>>94373346
>Do you think mutants in Marvel proper would be more popular if they had good PR from the get-go?
Well, that's the explaination given in the books, and it makes sense. Give them fashionable costumes, put emphasis on the "super-hero" rather than the "Space-Gods' Chosen", solve problems around the globe and you're bound to pick up fans. Merchandise, toys, endorsements, Foundations, all that would help immensely.

>>94355925
Kurdistan, 1983.

A resistance fighter returns home to his village. To his people, he is a hero. He doesn't care. One day, he goes on a fishing trip. When he returns, his home has been raped. His wife and children have been murdered. The crops have been burned. To the local governments, and the rest of the world watching the war unfold, he is known by only one name. That name is.......

THE PUNISHER.

>>94355925
>Wander
Well that won't be easy.

>>94357007
>Four Horsemen of Heaven led by Ghost Rider
FUND IT MARVEL

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>>94355925
I would rework the entirety of the X-Men mythos if I could. I'll also post about one character in particular next (pic related), so that I stay on-topic with the thread.

I love the idea of "species" of mutants, it makes them make more sense to me. We have so many examples of Mutant lineage actually mattering in what powers are passed on, so it already fits. Give them some consistent traits, and establish HARD limits on what they can do, and make them consistently weaker than their other super-being counterparts (the way they used to, like when Spider-Man could take out the entire team alone). Of course, there would be sub-groupings within the "species" as well.
The different types of mutants could be:

>"Logans" - Feral instincts, animal-esque traits, healing factor that extends lifespan (Wolverine and Co., Beast, Wolfsbane, Angel, etc.)

>"Apocalyptians" - Powers that involve their own individual genetic timelines, including a sort of time travel that involves assumption of previous and future selves, ancestors, and/or descendants (Apocalypse, Gideon, Mister Sinister, Madrox, etc.)

>"Summerses" - Energy blasters and/or manipulators, often unable to harm other mutants or those related (or something similar) (Cyclops, Havoc, Gambit, etc.)

>"Manipulators" - (also called JEANNNNS) Those with telepathy and/or telekinesis, and includes all shapeshifters and elementalists, both literal and psychically-projected (Emma, Professor Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Pyro, etc.)

>"Hunters" - Those with the ability to influence other Mutant's powers, whether stealing them, copying them, or shutting them down and/or powering them up (M, Rogue, Leech, Caliban, Callisto, etc.)

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>>94374308
Henry "Hank" McCoy was born to wealthy land baron parents in Alberta, Canada sometime in the mid-to-late 1800's. There is often debate as to which of them is older about The Wolverine and The Beast, although Hank likes to deflect and jokingly point out the legendarily-vain Namor, the Sub-Mariner as the oldest Mutant he knows when asked.

Hank was born with abnormally-large hands and feet, both of which possess the kind of claws a savanna lion would have, and his teeth are also razor-sharp. He appears feline in nature, but is obviously-human upon closer inspection. His body is covered in fine, gray fur; as he ages, it is beginning to take on a cobalt-blue hue and a coarser texture. Hank possesses strength and endurance greater than that of the world's foremost athletes, and his literally-cat-like reflexes place him above the best gymnasts in dexterity and grace. He can heal from injuries that would fell a lesser man, and his body is so resilient that it resists aging.
His skin is more akin to a hide; knives can barely pierce it without great effort on their wielders' part. His true super-power, as so few of either Homo-Sapiens or Homo-Sapiens-Superior possess it, is his oft-unmatched intellect.

Hank studied every subject under the sun, home-schooled by his worldly, well-read father who kept him secluded indoors for his own safety as well as the sparing of the McCoy family's reputation. Reading of the feats of Hercules, and of the supposed sightings of the Olympian himself, Henry pleaded until his parents relented and allowed him to head out into the world in his early twenties. He had been reading about the "new" phenomenon known as Mutants, figuring that he was one of those people and there must be more. He figured that perhaps even the legends of old were about Mutants, and he was determined to find out everything that he could about them.

The first Mutant that Hank encountered was a young man named Logan, who was suffering from amnesia...

>>94357007
>Mad Ghost Rider

>>94365022
Throw in some more edgy psychological horror and PTSD and I'm in.

>>94365467
>>94370795
My favorite ones in this thread so far.

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>>94374590
Hank took Logan under his wing, and taught him new things to replace those he had forgotten. It would be a long road, for both of them, but they became fast friends. They connected over their mutual lack of understanding of the world around them. Hank had to teach Logan basic things like how to read, but Logan seemed to know many things beyond his years of experience about fighting and surviving. I think that they should be lovers, personally, but that might just be the gay furry in me talking.

"We should start a school for Mutants, teaching Reading, Writing, and the Arithmetic of Fighting!" Hank liked to joke about it in those days, but by 1899, the two young-looking Mutants had a bit of a reputation across the Canadian frontier. An ungodly-wealthy man by the name of Charles Francis Xavier, P.h.D. and Professor Emeritus of Anthropology at Cambridge University, caught wind of their idea while exploring his budding telepathic abilities, and decided to fund their dream and expand upon it. He tracked the two companions down in Nova Scotia after tracking them for months, and presented to them a proposition of buying them land far away from civilization.
Somewhere in a hidden location far to the North, there exists what is now a historic Canadian institution: The Xavier Institute for Mutant Research and Education. Despite the name, Hank and Logan were also heavily involved in running and publicizing the sanctuary and school.

It wasn't until World War II, when Henry McCoy, Logan, and Charles Xavier led a contingency of X-Men alongside the allied front, that Mutants were in the public consciousness again. Emboldened, a young boy named Magnus tore Auschwitz to the ground with his control over magnetic metals and electromagnetic fields, and he returned to America with the X-Men, training to be the first of their New Mutants.

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Gods of Earth.

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Long ago two alien empires using magitech fought over Earth shattering their fleets against each other. Falling from the sky onto ancient humans came the ruins of their ships, weaponry and tools. These artifacts were claimed by humans, the magitech binding to their new hosts. Some of the artifacts extend their hosts lives and understanding, but are still foreign with gaps due to the alien nature.

The humans claiming these artifacts place themselves as Gods among their fellow humans ruling over their fellow humans. Each of them have limited knowledge of the global spread of the artifacts and wish to claim them all to rule them all. But these artifacts also warp the mind due to their alien knowledge, growing distant from other humanity in some cases. Some are completely alien, while others are quite close to the rest of humanity.

Various pantheons form around families and alliances of people, while some can switch sides on occasion. Artifacts are often passed down to the children and relatives (if not taken in battle). Many of the less expansive artifacts which don't extend the lifespan are given to retainers sworn to the gods (Demigods).

So this can use a whole bunch of the gods and stuff from Marvel and DC. Thor could be one of the Gods of Asgard who still remains mostly human and leads their armies against all comers. Wonder Woman could be one of the bastard daughters of Zeus and one of his favored retainers, inheriting her mothers gear. Hercules could be one of the famed retainers who claimed a God's artifact in battle ascending to a key role in the Greek pantheon. etc

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>>94365467

Bump so the X-Men anon has more time.

>>94355925
The fuck am I looking at in that image?

>>94376885
Tony Stark as the Sorcerer Supreme of the future, talking to Iron Doom.

>>94376941
I gave up on modern comics, so did I miss sp,e event or what if storyline or is this new with the dead Tony and Iron Doom garbage?

>>94376975
He just made a cameo during Infamous Iron Man. He appeared during a vision of Doom's.

>>94365022
What if instead Uncle Ben was a masked thief actually trying to break into a closed jewelry store instead with some buddies? Pete catches them in the act, goes for a punch at the closet one hears a sharp CRACK, realises he fucked up. Just as he's running up to the dying robber he hears a barely audible name "M-may".

>>94377215
that'll work. I think it gets the point across that he doesn't do the whole die in my arms thing because it's really overdone. He almost unmasks him but runs off as the police arrives. It's only later on the news that peter and may find out.

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>>94355925
>Rose Lalonde
I'd literally have to reinvent Sburb to make her origin story. In order to do this, I make it so Sburb is a kind of a secondary Doctor Strange-esque dimension superimposing itself on Earth, probably through advanced technology, and everything in the game is a construct with it allowing super positioning of other Universes. The game mechanics work solely on earth rather than introducing other planets (With mini-zones imposed as pocket dimensions replacing the rings) Game players get some kind of special, maybe Chip? Injection? Brain click schtick thingy that allows them to see, interact and become aware of 'Sburb' and play it - For instance the Totem Lathe beaming the laser into their heads instead of inanimate objects. Construction is mental and metaphysical.

Rose comes into being when a this process goes wrong in the future, whereas or Roxy is some girl is playing, she's 'superimposed' over her entirely with an enigma how she came from the game (As an AI? From another universe? Sburb itself like the Hunter in Jumanji? An anomaly? Mysterious..), but is now existing on the physical plane and has essentially merged with her host, in this cyberpunk-y VR Sburb game. There's some existential quandary for her, having come into existence via the game overtop some girl and now being forced to play the game on humanities behalf.

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>>94355925
Character: Ultraman
Setting: Alt-Post Death of Superman Universe.

Ultraman arrived soon after the death of Superman, right before his apperance Superman's grave was attacked by a group of his worst enemies including Lex Luthor, Mongul, Brainiac, and Mr. Myxlplyx. No one is sure who got the corpse but a few weeks later Ultraman showed up along side the Anhiliator, Cyborg Superman and the others.

He claimed to be the real Superman brought back by dark magic or alien science, (he keeps changing the story.) He claims he has seen the otherside and it has clearly driven him insane. He has no more will or desire, no more interest in saving people or making the world better. He wants to stay alive and avoid the otherside while living the most hedonistic life he can in this world.

He goes about this in classical Ultraman criminal fashion.

>>94375616
-A few of the aliens survive the hard landings, but find it hard to survive in the alien and magic poor Earth environment. They collect human serfs to help them as they adapt themselves to earth and try to get back home or open Earth to the general magic currents of the wide universe. The getting back home could fail but the opening of magic could work. These aliens could seek a different environment keeping them out of most of the other affairs. Like extreme cold, deep sea or high altitude. The magic revival would be a big game changer.

-The aliens could also die out leaving their serfs to take over their stuff in the aftermath of that event. Serfs who have been ruled by their ways for generations. They could then be the Inhumans, humans but alien in culture and extremely powerful.

-Most humans without stuff would be not very useful so armies are small. Most just help as scouts, camp followers, porters and other support issues. Most of the fighters would be covering weaknesses for the particular fighter and skirmishers like archers and slingers.

-Tech would be bronze or iron age, like pre medieval. Advances have been made but are limited, fractures and haphazard. Most also rely on drawing magic from the environment, which earth is rather poor in. So cannibalizing items can be used, but there is a limited number. Making them valuable beyond their raw use and taking others extremely important.

>>94357007
I like this world, but what would the rider actually be like? Is this a mad max style apocalypse, but with demons? Is it the pure spirit or does it still need a host?

>>94365467
Hulk literally is Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde in modern times. You just unscienced that cliche

>>94378560

For purposes of story it's better that the Rider be bound to a human host. More chance for conflict and it would be easier to relate to a person than the incarnation of God's Vengeance. Besides, it's more consistent. The Horsemen are concepts incarnate, meaning 'made flesh.' So, more human. More agency, more personality. I thought of it as post-apocalypse setting, where the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse still ride around to get their kicks out of ruining new human settlements. (Again, more human.)

>>94379048
Not that guy, but the whole point of the thread is to come up with new interpretations of classic characters. Might as well complain about the whole thread.

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He feels it again. Slowly creeping up to him. The hunger. The rage. The urge to grab itand lash out at the world. He sees the filth around him and wishes he could get rid of it. He opens the news and sees his beloved City being overrun by these... these savages. And all he wants is to answer the cries of his blade and cut off their heads. His name is Dane Whitman. He is the Black Knight. He is the Holy Warrior of God. And he knows what he must do...

Okay, so this is a revamp of Dane. Instead of him being a wimp who tries to ignore the call of the blade and be a hero, he's a firm believer in the Supernatural and has clearly villainous tendencies. He's English with Greek Ancestry, and so when the Ebony Blade falls on his hands, his sole purpose becomes to reclaim Constantinopole and DEUS VULT everything.

It's a pretty big departure from the original, but I always enjoyed seeing more villainous takes. If it was an ongoing, I'd have him be part of MI:13 (still a physicist), but he'd be a deeply prejudiced and distrustful guy who'd manipulate people and events to climb the hierarchy and put his goals forward. He'd get involved with HYDRA and then we'd cross into the Eldritch Abomination territory.

A good end point would be him conquering the City, with the final panel being him devising plans to ressurect the Byzantine Empire. If "sales" were good, I'd continue it, with Doom as a primary antagonist.

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>>94379048
True, but the hulk is also just a more science-y dr. jekel and Mr. Hyde meets frankenstein by that logic, it' not necessarily a bad thing, but the real clincher would be on the execution.

Personally, I'd like it to run in a fashion similar to pic related but a bit more long term maybe, just a few more chapters at least to better flesh out the setting and all, because it's always nice to see just what can be done with a concept like this.

I see your point, but it's merely a point to overcome to make it better I suppose

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>>94356678
My name is Scott Summers and I'm a member of the time displaced X-men and I am in need of a little excitement so I'm gonna go watch the Cuckoos preform at this strip club I hear is really nice, I enter and sit down and order a drink the triplets are halfway through their set.
I feel someone running their fingers through my hair. "Hey baby" I hear someone whispering in my ear. I turn around to see a gorgeous dancer behind me, my eyes locked onto her dazzling green eyes, her long black hair draping down her body, covering her boobs.
She makes her way round to face me, taking a bill from my grasp, she forced her way between my legs and began dancing on top of me. She leans in closer "For $100 more, I'll treat you".
I reach into my wallet, handing over the money. She smiles and takes my hand, leading me to the VIP room in the back.
"My name is Laura. Just in case you wanted to know" She allows me to walk through first, telling me to head to the 3rd door down on the left. I smile and nod my head, walking into the room.
The room is dimly lit, bottles of massage oils around the room, boxes of tissues. "Nice place" I say. What else was I meant to say???
She laughs, she can sense my nervousness. "First time you've received extra I'm guessing?" I nod my head, swallowing what saliva I had left in my mouth. Not sure what's happening, this woman was intimidating, yet I found it such a turn on.
She winked as she took the straps down from her bra, letting them hang down against the tops of her arms, reaching round I bit my lip as she unhooked it. Slowly removing it, her beautiful green eyes not leaving mine as she threw her bra at my face. Her gorgeous breast exposed to me. I lick my lips as she begins running her hands over her body, gently pinching her erect nipples.

>>94380420
She falls to her knees and crawls towards me, once again forcing her way in between my legs, looking up at me licking her lips. I reach down and unbutton my jeans. Once free, she helps me pull them down along with my underwear. My hard cock on full show to her.
"Hello big boy!"
I couldn't help but smile and accept the compliment. The smile soon turned into a full on lip bite as she took me whole in her mouth. Her lips almost reaching the bottom of my shaft. A feat not yet managed but fuck me did this girl come close.
She used her hand to wrap herself around me and jerk me off as she held my hard cock in her mouth. Her gorgeous green eyes staring up at me, begging me to moan for her.
She took me out of her mouth and held my cock upright, using her tongue to lick up my shaft, starting from my balls, working her way up to my tip, forcing pre-cum up to my hole, which she gracefully licked clear. Watching her pull away as a strand of cum connected me to the tip of her tongue.
She then stood up and slowly pulled her panties down, allowing them to freely drop down to her feet. Stepping out of the slowly, she walked towards me, her crystal green eyes locked on to my manhood.
She smiled as she straddled me, her long legs wrapped over my thighs. She grabbed hold of my erection and slowly placed it in her wet pussy. Which to my surprise was very tight, causing my skin to retract down my cock, my bulging pink helmet being soaked by her pussy juice.
She threw her head back in ecstasy as she began rocking against me, she took complete control, her arms wrapped around my neck. Her perfectly polished red fingernails digging into my skin.

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>>94380440
She began fucking me harder, pushing herself down on to me. Thrusting my cock as deep inside her as I could. She then unwrapped her arms from my neck, moving them down to her gorgeous thighs, resting them there as she rocked herself faster against my throbbing hard on.
I bit my lip as I watched her pinch one of her hard nipples, her moan almost screeching from her mouth as I felt the warmth of her orgasm pour from her pussy and over my cock.
I grabbed her hips as she came, my turn to take control and see her through this. She allowed me to as she flung her hands up through her long, black hair. Moaning louder against my thrusts, her cum still seeping from her pussy.
The sound of her wet pussy banging against my hard cock was enough to bring on my own ecstasy. I grab her hips hard as I pulled her closer, sucking on her erect nipples, my tongue swirling around her buds as I released my own warm flow of fluids inside her.
Once we were both completely satisfied, she climbed off of me as if I wasn't there, dressing herself once more and off out of sight after collecting my money.
"That was nice, see you around big boy" she said then she was gone around the corner.
I wasn't complaining though. Best $100 I've ever spent.

>>94380366
Any ideas on the supporting cast and villains? Maybe a couple of other MU characters?

>>94379741
Yeah, that's uh.., that's pretty problematic in today's climate. Interesting, but... I wouldn't mind hearing some more though. Maybe a bugger emphasis on the plot this time?

>>94381113
well there's abomination like I mentioned earlier, so it'd only make sense to include more from Hulk's Rogues gallery, like zzax and the leader. and maybe some avengers action except that they are like a church and they go all salem and go witch hunting(some witches but it's just the supernatural in general), so he'd be on edge with them do to his duality and all. Some people like Morbius could work as well, and he could work with a mutant spider man to fight some of them as well.
I particularly find that putting the leader as the head of the main cult working against Hulk would be appropriate, and they would summon other hulk villains as demons and what not, to have a central villain group to work against.
It would really depend on how long the story would go on for in all honesty.

>>94381414
Ulysses Bloodstone and other monster hunting Marvel characters would be great here.

>>94381490
for sure, turning into a whole hunters vs monsters thing would make sense in narrative, but it could risk losing the whole horror edge, which would make it more boring. Nerf the heroes, buff the villains make it more of a tough fight to make things more interesting, with actual character deaths.
Also have to consider slowly edging into that, because it'd be really boring to introduce the whole monster hunting thing too early on.
Start off solo, then slowly build up more characters.

>>94381402
Well, I guess I can do a few greentexts.

>Dane
Starts off as an optimistic young bloke interested in learning more about the universe. Kinda aloof, clean-shaven, a jolly fellow. While working on the physics behind a portal (ala Portal), he comes across some ancient tomes and starts reading about Occult stuff. At first he considers it all silly and just tries to amuse himself, but the more he reads, the more immersed he becomes. His personality and world-view starts changing.

The final blow comes from an extremist attack, which finds Dane in the very heart of it, leading to him killing his first man in order to save his life. From then on he becomes more calculating, grows a beardand starts walking down a dangerous path.

Generally I envision it as a Darth Vader esque story. He's constantly ron between his rage and his kind spirit, and starts "succumbing" to the Blade. In reality the Blade doesn't "talk". It's just Dane looking for someone to blame.

As for other characters, I'd make Doc Strange his mentor figure that keeps him in line. Valkyrie as is love interest. Cap Britain as his Best Friend. pete Wisdom as the jackass. The more evil he becomes though, the more his alliances change. He ends up joining a HYDRA Fraction.

Dunno if you've seen Banshee, but I'm envisioning it as the story of the main character, but in reverse.

>>94381414
I like all of that very much. I wouldn't mind hearing more, all things considered.

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>All New Blackhawk
Hal Jordan never receives the Green Lantern Ring and instead becomes a masked pilot and hero, the modern version of Blackhawk.

The first Blackhawk was Janos Prohaska, who is assassinated before his Squadron can take flight to fight the Nazis.
Zinda Blake, with the blessing of the Squadron, hides her identity from the public and becomes the masked hero version of Blackhawk that Hal Jordan admired as a young boy.

>First Arc
The explosion caused by the experimental aircraft sends Hal Jordan back in time where he ends up as an unlikely member of the famous Blackhawk Squadron.
Though initially suspicious of him, Hal is able to gain the trust and later the respect of the Squadron, joining them as a fixture of their flight team.
raveling between various theaters of war brings the Blackhawks against their main antagonist, Charles Mayhew [http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Mayhew_(New_Earth)] and his White Lion Squadron. While Hal's presence has changed certain parts of history he finds that he and the Blackhawks are still on a crash course with the end of the Squadron
This first arc ends with a final dog fight between Mayhew against Hal, and Zinda Blake that ends as Hal sacrifices himself to stop a Nazi plot that results in Hal being sent back to his own time.

>The Series
The return of Hal Jordan to the present day marks the beginning of the heroic adventures of the new Blackhawk, ace pilot and masked hero. After a very difficult return to the living and regaining Carol's trust, he is able to convince her to let him use one of Ferris Air's experimental aircraft to take on this new role. Blackhawk acts as a one-man rescue unit in San Diego.
Blackhawk joins the Justice League as an auxiliary member, providing aerial support and transport for their missions. This new association opens him up to the dangerous world of heroes and villains.All while Hal struggles with his relationship with Carol

>>94380470
hawt

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>>94355925
Stephen never cared about his father's stories. They were exciting in the old times, sure, but now... not so much. The world had changed. "Ye old family had ships and ships boy. Wewere freedom fighters, pirates, salesmen.We ruled the seas". Ridiculous, he thought. Just a sad old man living in the past. Stephen wanted to explore the stars and the brave new world that was open to him.

But alas, money, money, money. It's always money. No stars for Stephen. Engineering paid more you see. So he buckled down and became yet another engineer. But by that time, the market was full of them. Still, he managed to find an opening in... not shady, but uh, "unique" company. And he did good there. he rose the ranks. He became head of an expedition program. He even managed to join NASA.

But like all good things, the end was near. One mistake, and his whole career was done for. Just a decimal, it was. Just a decimal... Stephen was out of a job, with no offers and with debt pilling up. So he said "damn it all" and dusted off his pops' old boat, fixed it with what little money he had, and sailed for... somewhere. if he was lucky the sea would just eat him up.

But he was not solucky. Or rather, he was... in a way. The boat somehow, took him to an unknown place. An uncharted mountain that rose from the depths of the sea. And so Stephen began to climb. And climb and climb. Towards that bright light...

It's a Doctor Strange AU where his ancestors were pirates, and instead of the Ancient One being a "wise Asian" trope, he's kind of a Lovecraftian monster that was defeated by Agamotto and then possessed by him. Stephen's name is Fischer, derived from the Greek Island of "Psarra", which is legendary for its traders and pirates during the 1821 rebellion.

Why? Because I finished Black Sails recently and what Strange dressing up like a Pirate Sorcerer and becoming a swashbuckler ala Sinbad.

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>>94383320
I'm on board with this.

>>94383480
Might as well give you more anon. Some notes:

>Stephen
He looks as flamboyant as ever, really. He's still a wise man in his 50s when he suits up, but he's a bit of "show-stopper". Think Captain Flint crossed with Calico Jack.

He'd initially be a protector of Earth,but then start branching out and travelling the cosmos to gain alien knowledge. The fan inside me tellsme that he should be riding around in a "magic pirate ship"...

>Ancient One
Like I said, he'd be a Lovecraftian Monster of the deep possessed by Agamotto. He would be "the Ancient One". He'd be an immortal being and not a line of succession. He could shapeshift and take a human form, something along the lines of Ben Kingsley, but his "monster form" would be something akin to Davy Jones.

>Clea, Dormammu, Umar
Mostly the same looks, but Umar & Dormammu are husband and wife here. Rulers hell-bent on dominating universes,but devoted to each other in a Morticia & Gomez way from the Addams Family. Clea knows they're evil,but still loves them.They consider her a dissapointment, but still love her as well. Maybe I'd ad a couple ofothers to create a whole "Addams Family of Interdimensional Monsters".

>Mordo
Descendant of Dracula,heir to a bankrupt mnsion and with a familyname that's been through the mud. He has nothing and wishes to bring back the glory to his former home. Not so much a villain, but a man who falls in line with monsters to achieve his goals. A tragic figure.

>Doom
King of Latveria, a small nation between Italy and Greece. He's dead-set on bringing back the glory of his country and creating the third empire in the Roman/Byzantium line. He feel akinship with Stephen due to their common ancestry,but their methods are different, which brings them at odds.

>Nightmare
Once the personification of dreams ala Morpheus,he's now been corrupted due to the violent and anxious ways of all sentient life acrossthe universe. He's a man with a job, and his job has driven him mad.

I'd find a way to fuse Gwenpool with the Re:Creators anime concept. Through the power of the fandom's appreciation of the variant cover art and the resulting fanart, a mysterious force allows two comic nerds to get together, have children, and name them Teddy and Gwen Poole, making their powers genetic and not accidental. As a result, the siblings make their own way into the marvel universe rather than accidentally.

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>>94383764
good shit man, glad to see the ol' gears working hard

>>94377643
You know I would love a line where superhero deaths stayed dead, so you basically have a Justice League of Steel, John Stewart GL, Dickbats, Wally Flash, and Dickbats, with Wonder Woman as the old school team leader.

When the Vikings first went to America, they found it far less hospitable than they'd hoped, the raids from the Native Americans were too much for them, they prayed to their gods for help, but only Thor came. He fought with them for years, the Vikings slowly dying off, eventually it was only Thor left, doing battle, and then even he died, his essence being bound to his hammer, Mjolnir. Over the years, many would find the hammer and try to lift it for themselves, however none of them were found worthy of Thor.

Centuries later during an attack by the stone-men from Saturn, Dr. Donald Blake picks up the hammer, gaining Thor's power in the process. As well as this Thor appears to him, speaking to him, offering advice, etc. to help Donald be his true self.

The story itself would be as much about Thor discovering what the world is like today through Donald Blake's eyes as it is about Donald Blake discovering the world of gods and magics. Thor would see how all the old gods and monsters he would fight with centuries ago have adapted (or failed to adapt) to the new godless 21st Century.

>>94380420
is this the kind of smut that Woman read? If so then I can get into it.

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>DeadMan: Seance
- Set in the Gotham by Gaslight universe -
Boston Brand is a Houdini-esque escape artist and skeptic who wears Dia de los Muertos style make-up during his sold-out performances throughout Europe and America.

While in Gotham, Boston visits an Indian woman named Rama Kushna who claims to commune with the spirit world.
Boston takes great joy in debunking her claims and humiliating her in front of her followers.

During his show he is killed by one of her followers.
Boston Brand is a dead man.

His specter haunts the theater for months, the now famous spirit medium Rama Kushna is brought in to exorcise him.

What follows is a battle of spirits and ghostly spooks to beat out The Conjuring.

After DeadMan defeats Rama Kushna and gets his vengeance, he is visited by a specter shrouded in green who commends Boston for his actions.
The specter bestows a burial shroud that turns bright red to symbolize his murder and his passion.

Boston Brand's soul is free from his place of death, the DeadMan now haunts Gotham and seeks justice for the dearly departed.

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>Hawkeye: Archer's Paradox
Clint Barton was on his way to becoming an U.S. Olympian when his brother Barney gets mixed up with Wilson Fisk.
Out of love for his brother, Barton creates the masked identity of Hawkeye and uses his skills as an archer to steal enough to pay Barney's debts.

His criminal ways make him a target of New York City's heroes and ends being taken down by Iron Man.
Prison is rough on Barton and the media circus that surrounds his arrest destroys any future he could have had.

Hawkeye becomes a villain, often teaming up with other supervillains like Swordsman and TaskMaster.

Going in and out of the Raft, Hawkeye has a moment of clarity when he saves a number of civilians during one the Avengers battles that wrecks part of NYC.

Seeing this quality, Barton is approached by Iron Man and Nick Fury to lead a rehab program for his fellow masked criminals.

Hawkeye becomes the leader of the first Thunderbolts.

I imagine him as a counterpart to Cap and his Avengers. Maybe even give him Vibranium tipped arrows to do more ricochet trick shots.

>>94385316
sounds nice. But in order to keep up with the thread, you got any ideas for setting, i.e. the time period, or location perhaps? solid idea still but I'm just curious personally.

>>94385386
I'd say it's roughly modern times.
As for setting/location the majority of Hawkeye's time would be in prison for a bit of that HBO's Oz storylines considering he would be a target for working with the "authorities."

Perhaps at some point Hawkeye and his Thunderbolts would have their own base that also acts as a halfway house.

As for missions I imagine it would be similar to when the States uses convicts as fire-fighters, they would only be brought in for things that are out of the Avengers attention.
That way the Thunderbolts would have more street-level villains who would actually be considered for parole, no city destroyers or monsters.

bump for read

>The Indomitable Hulk
Bruce Banner is a talented geneticist working for the betterment of humanity, or so he thought.
Banner discovers that the research company he works for is actually a cover for the terrorist organization A.I.M.

Unsure how to contact the authorities, Banner goes to his fiance's father General Ross who brings Banner into SHIELD.

Banner becomes a spy for SHIELD and tries to smuggle his work out of his lab but is caught. Desperate he injects himself with his experimental MGH cocktail and burns the lab to destroy his work, sacrificing himself.

However this is not the end for Banner, the genetic chimera within in him saves him and the Hulk is born.

Banner and the Hulk will use brain and brawn respectively to combat super-science oriented criminals.
As the series goes on Banner becomes a better spy and the Hulk has a more focused rage against the people who created him, akin to Frankenstein's Monster.

>>94385316
His brother should die to give him some pathos, really so because if Fisk fucks with the brother of an Olympic archer and suddenly an archery themed vigilante shows up, he's gonna put two and two together with a fucking quickness.

>>94380470
more please

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>>94355925
I am bored, I guess I'll do it again

>Peter parker finally retired as spider-man and setting down with a girl
>He announce it on live stream. Telling the world that he will no longer be spider-man.
>3 weeks later
>Peter became the boss the of daily bugle.
>Allowing JJJ to retired from the daily bugle
>Peter turns the daily bugle into buzzfreed/wikileaks hybrid.
>One of the employees tells Peter parker that spider-man was spotted.
>Peter went "What the shit" and he search for the spider-man.
>He see the spider-faker beating up random criminals
>Peter trying to figure out his secret identity, by capturing him.
>It didn't work at all.
>The other spider-man tells peter parker that the world needs a spider-man.
>And other spider-man disappear.
>Peter parker was piss and wrote a article about the spider-faker. Trying to make the kid to give up on being spider-man by giving him a bad rep.
>Everybody hated the new spider-man and the other spider-man didn't care.
>Until one day, The other spider-man was capture and beaten by a group of criminals.
>And try to unmask him in front of the whole world.
>Peter parker didn't wanted a kid to be killed by criminals, so he try to rescue.
>Peter parker trace the criminals whereabouts with his advance spider-tracers. And he easily found the criminals
>Peter got his best gear and preptime.
>He bust in there and beat up all the criminals
>He save the other spider-man from being unmask by the world.
>Peter tells the other spider-man to give up being a hero.
>The other spider-man still says "no".
>He tells peter that those criminals kills his friend. And his dying wish that he wanted new york to be safe again by spider-man.
>The other spider-man unmask himself, telling peter parker that he got "great power with a -lot responsibilities"

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>>94355925
>Near-future timeline (say, around 2050)
>Spider-Man's origin is basically the same, got his powers from a corporate accident in a science lab
>Like with Ultimate, the company (let's say Roxxon, because Oscorp is overplayed) is trying to pinpoint just how they accidentally gave a kid superpowers
>Eddie Brock was a classmate of Peter Parker's
>Kind of a dumpy loser, in better shape than Pete (pre-spider bite), but not as smart
>His whole life, he's that one kid that's just kinda "there"
>People can't even be bothered to dislike him
>Ends up getting a job pushing pencils at Roxxon while Peter gets a prestigious paid internship
>His whole life he's sorta resentful of Peter, since he kinda turned into a flake after the whole Spidey thing, at last outclassed him in every way
>May also be closeted gay for Peter
>Ends up getting "promoted" to lab technician
>All so that the shadowy dudes in charge can test their spider shit on him
>Oops it's too much
>Instead of becoming a goo monster like classic Venom, this one grows chitinous armor/little hairs, like he's constantly in an organic tarantula suit
>Big mandibles and everything, shit's gross
>A rough approximation of Spidey's powers, lots of body horror
>Because it's basically a super-soldier serum, it increases his cognitive abilities
>Also drives him insane like the Goblin serum
>He's able to deduce that Peter got sick during the field trip, started to flake afterwards, and Spidey hit the scene around the same time
>Figures that if Peter never became Spider-Man, he'd never be stuck as a big gross bug creature
>Starts out looking for a cure, slowly comes to love his grotesque new form, since being such a hideous monster basically gives him carte blanche to do whatever he wants
>Embraces his bestial side while remaining fully cognizant of what he's doing
>Ends up having that Bullseye/Punisher relationship with Pete, where he's just totally fucking nuts and wants nothing more than to kill/fuck/be him

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>>94355925
Okay so strap in because this one's gonna get weird.

So it's ancient Greek times, and Poseidon has an illegitimate son with some human woman. Like all Greek gods, he fucks off and leaves her holding the baby, only for the boy to grow up into a man with aquatic abilities. After mankind develops reliable methods of inter-continental wayfaring, An immortal himself, the son wages war against the gods of Olympus in revenge for all the ill they have done to mankind.

Eventually, humanity conquers the oceans; Poseidon dies and the Age of Exploration begins. Aquaman attempts to claim his birthright, only for his father to curse him with his dying breath, encasing him in ice.

Hundreds of years pass, and Aquaman is finally freed from his frozen prison when the RMS Titanic plows into an iceberg, knocking his unconscious body into the water. Aquaman drifts all the way to turn-of-the-century New York, where he must try to blend into a world he left behind, despite being an ancient Greek demigod.

Meanwhile, a great white hunter from Africa learns of Aquaman's existence. Having lost his wife when the Titanic sank, the man goes insane from grief, and rationalizes that Aquaman must have caused the wreck in the first place; had Aquaman not been floating by in his frozen prison, the ship would have completed its journey without incident.
Arming himself with a diving suit and a harpoon gun, Black Manta takes to the seas, hoping to exact revenge on the white whale who took his wife.

>>94391909

I reading this in aquaman voice.

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>WW2 ended when America Dropped the atomic bombs on Japan. Realizing the devastation that was to occur, the Japanese unleased their prototype Jet Fighters. Over a decade ahead of anything else in the air, they crush the US Military.
>Thanks to the efforts of the Red Skulls agents, Germany copied the plans for the A-bomb and built their own, using them against Russia. Stalin is killed. The Nazis drive back the Russians and crush the Americans and Brits against the sea.
>Japan and Germany divide the Northern Americas.
>1980s. Mutants begin to appear. Nazi scientists study them and realize they are the next stage of human evolution. They are the Ubermensch.
>Instead of being hated and feared, Mutants are celebrated and taken to special accadamies across the Reich.
>Japan considers Mutants to be degenerate, but recognize that they will need them as well since Germany is raising them up, and the remains of the USSR are enslaving mutants.
>Emma Frost is an Oberfuhrer in the SS who leads a team tasked with dealing with "anti-ubermensch" partisans who want to overthrow the Reich and destroy Mutants as abominations unto God, or Bolshevik agents who attempt to kill mutants for their genetic privileges which prevent the equality of mankind.
>She is married to fellow Oberfuhrer Scott Summers, and has three daughters with him, all of which share their mother's psychic abilities. She hopes one day to have a son to carry on Scott's name.
>Her team consists of Anna Marie, a southern mutant whose power is to drain people's abilities, but she cannot control them thanks to a terrible attack by anti-ubermensce partisans. Hank McCoy, a specialist in ubermensce genetics. Domino, and lastly Colossus, a Russian who defected to the Reich when Bolsheviks murdered his village for producing mutant children while attempting to enslave said mutants.
>Her superior officer is Kurt Wagner, a German mutant with the ability to teleport, with a great love of films & smoking a ridiculously large pipe.

>>94355925
Hal Jordan was test piloting a new jet. But suddenly out of nowhere aliens kidnapped him. In an act of unprecedented evil, the aliens decided to kill everyone on earth only leaving Hal alive as a cruel joke. Seeing this and not able to do anything about it, Hal cursed his powerlessness. He watch as everyone on earth was killed in a massacre. Having killed everyone on earth and made Hal watch what the killing, he was sent back down to earth only as to continue their twisted joke. The aliens then left the planet. Hal was devastated. Mortified. Everyone on the planet was dead. Dead and he could do nothing about it. He was ashamed to be the only person alive. In his sadness, he swore revenge. Revenge for his planet. Revenge for his friends and family. Revenge for humanity. All of a sudden, ghostly energy began seeping out of the ground right in front of him. The energy shaped itself and turns into a lantern. Hal touch the lantern and information rushed into his head. It is said that lanterns are used to guide the dead. But this lantern is from the collective spirits of humanity. It is to guide Hal in his quest to avenge humanity. He plunged his hand into the lantern. With the guiding light of humanity, he made an oath.

For every day, and every night; I shall never forget this plight. For those who extinguish humanity's light. They will suffer humanity's might.

>>94393506
I thought of something similar while watching The Man in the High Castle a while back. It's certainly an interesting angle. Any ideas about the rest of the mutants? Chuck, Fantomex, Mags, Magik, etc, etc.

>>94395092
>Mutant in the High Castle.

>Magneto was one of the first mutants discovered by the Reich. Despite recognizing him as an ubermensch, his fury at the deaths of his parents was too great to accept his new position. He escaped and became a wanted fugitive. After spending a decade on the run, he immigrated to Judea, and helped to win the war for his Israeli brothers when the British Empire's ability to police the area collapsed. He was elected as the prime minister of Israel during the late sixties and seventies due to his efforts in winning the 6 day war, which led to the Israeli conquest of "Greater Israel, and includes the former nations of Jordan,Syria, Iraq, and Northern Saudi Arabia.

>Magik eventually made her way to the Reich and joined one of the new temples dedicated to the Norse Gods. She is currently high priestess off Amora at the Berlin temple.

>Charles Xavier refused to join the American Reich, and instead runs a school for mutant and human children in New York.

>James Howett severed in the Canadian Special Forces in WW2. After the war he retired to the Canadian wilds, where he married Silver Fox.

>Kitty Pride was born and raised in Israel. She joined Mossad at age 18 and became one of their most decorated agents, single handedly assassinating half the leader of Black September after the Munic Olympic attack.

anyone else?

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>>94355925
>>94358819

>THIS IS NOW A DR ZOOM THREAD

>>94395308
>Fantomex is the Reich's prized possession. A mutant child, genetically altered since birth, and with cybernetic implants. He's the perfect weapon, a mish-mash of various powers and talents.

>Mystique is the Reich's secret weapon. An assassin who can infiltrate any place, seduce any man or woman, and become anyone, is not something you pass on. Due to the extreme danger she poses, and the importance to the Reich, she effectively has one of the highest clearances in the Empire.

>Elizabeth Braddock is the Japanese half-sister of Brian Braddock. She gleefully accepted her role as Protector of the Emperor, Shiro Yoshida AKA Sunfire. She has a distate for the "X-Men" f the Reich, but her work is more important than petty grievances.

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>The Kronppelbergs were a family of nobles and bankers, known for their connections to the German Empire which allowed them certain privileges.
>The young Kronppelbegs were paragons of beauty, celebrities known for heroic stunts and for supposedly impressive war feats, which amounted to little more than lies, as the Kronppelbergs, for all their supposed physical prowess, hardly ever had to fight a day in their lives. All they had to do was be good looking, and they would live as princes, until they were old enough to continue this charade themselves.
>Oswald von Kronppelberg was the last from a long lineage of tall and handsome war heroes. Much to his dismay, and the dismay of his family, he was absolutely none of these things. The only reason why he was not smothered at birth was due to intervenience from his mother, a Prussian countess.
>For much of his childhood, Oswald lived as the deformed outcast, the ghoulish ogre that the populace believed haunted the Kronppelbergs. Victimized by his brothers and secluded from the world, Oswald's companions were few, but his hunger was intense. In his own seclusion, he did what his brothers refused to do: he studied and fought. He grew resentful of pretend heroics, of selfish war heroes, of men who never had to fight for what they owned. Educated by his mother, Oswald discovered at an early age the skills of observation, particularly when it came to people. He developed his own understanding of society. When his mother fell to illness, his father tried to have him expelled, but he was unable to find him.
>As the Kronppelbergs continued their privileged existence, their lives would be thrown in disarray with the arrival of the Great War, and the political conflicts that arose, culminating in the abdication of the Kaiser. They were abandoned by their allies, had their privileges destroyed, and eventually, what was left of the family was murdered by a gang of mercenaries.

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>>94396911
>Within the very first year of the war, the Kronppelberg dynasty had been virtually destroyed. As no one knew of Oswald's existence, no one targeted him. The few who did assumed he had long perished.
>The year is now 1925. Germany is reeling from the effects of war, and many of it's sons have been left in disarray. And so many troubled children require someone to take care of them.
>Thus, many have seeked the mysterious, yet kind Dr.Oswald Kabelput for aid. Oswald is a psychiatrist running mental hospitals who many trust, despite an initially odd appearence. His insight into the human physique is sharp, and he has such a keen knowledge of mental, as well as physical, care. Described as a man of miracles. The people see in Oswald a friend. The government sees in Oswald a potential ally.
>At the same time, shortly after the end of the first world war, the Germans have been hearing strange reports of a circus, which goes from town to town, cheering up the children and presenting such bizarre freaks. The massive crocodile man, the plant woman, the contortionist cat lady. And, of course, their portly masked boss, who goes by the name of "Der Pinguine". Reports of missing people are bound to follow the appearences of the circus.
>Recently, there have been appearences of a muscular, mysterious man in a strange, all-black outfit, who has begun to fight criminals and came to prominence after rescuing one of the kidnapped victims from the circus. They call him "Die Fledermaus", as he resembles a bat in form. The masked man appears to be benevolent, if brutal in his tactics. The Germans are divided on their opinion of the man, but approval appears to be more and more common.
>But to Oswald, all this man represents is another false hero he'll destroy, and another freak to his "collection".

TL:DR: Batman Elseworlds taking place in post-WW1 Germany, dealing with the rise of fascism focusing primarily on Batman and The Penguin's struggle.

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>>94355925
Uhhhhhh

> Ronnie is now the spawn of an eldritch being of Fat.
> His powers, instead of being Fat Magic, are the result his eldritch form attempting to breach the wall of his mortal flesh
> The only thing keeping him from ripping apart at the seems and sheding his flesh for the form of True Fat is the mighty McNugget, whose structure is so Tasty that it binds him to the mortal plane
> M Dude, Runnie Replace, etc. are not psychosomatic magical beings, but the result of McNuggeted Eldtrich energy causing fat to slough off him in the night and form into people.
>Setting is High School in the nineties- He's a member of a small anime club and does a cartoon for the school paper. His social skills are 100% the same, so Ronnie Still Suffers
> M Dude just sits behind him and fucks with him. No-one notices otherwise.
> Agrias is his long-time best friend, and one of the few people who put up with him. She is the only one who can recognize M Dude or Runnie Replace

It would really play to Ron's strengths as a horror writer anyways, and HS Ronnie is rife for social awkwardness.

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>Anarky
Lonnie Machin is a hacktivist based out of Gotham City, better known by his handle _moneyspider.
Considered by federal authorities to be a skilled nuisance at best, just a "dumb kid who doesn't understand how the world works."

On New Year's Day, a bomb was set off inside a bank vault, destroying all the physical currency. The bank's server was hacked at the same time, erasing all debts and data for that branch.
There were zero casualties.

Lonnie Machin is a terrorist based in Gotham City, better known as Anarky.

This series (probably a short one) would have moments that show how a young person becomes radicalized.
It would also be a great way to explore more complex political ideologies and to see how Anarky would respond to his revolution being adopted and altered as the movement grows (Anonymous, BLM, etc.).

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I'm loving all of these ideas in this thread. What a fun idea OP had!

>>94376875
Were you referring to me? To clarify, I was >>94374308 , >>94374590 , and >>94374837 . I'll throw on my trip just for clarity of posts as I continue. I was gone all day, so thanks for helping keep the thread alive for me! I'll post more in a little bit here, as soon as I catch up reading the thread.

>>94379741
>>94382321
It's always nice to know that he has fans other than me. When was the last time he was even mentioned?
I like your take on him, especially because I love living artifacts that impose their will upon their owners. Even when the whole thing is just a psychotic delusion.

>>94383320
>>94383764
The idea of Pirate Captain/Doctor Strange fighting against Doctor Doom, while dealing with very strange goths from another universe, makes me smile so big. I love it. I love you for it.

>>94385316
I love a good story about hope and redemption, and I love Hawkeye in general. This would be on my pull list, for sure.

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>>94397575
This'd be interesting, I think. On one hand he's angry atthe system, and on the other he's angry at the hijackers who have taken over his movement and twisted to serve their agenda. It'd certainly have something to say.

>Moon Knight: Archeologist of the Impossible

Marc always had an affinity for the strange and the weird. He always looked for what was hiding beneath the surface. He was always deep in his books, absorbing the knowledge of the past, and trying to uncover the uncharted mysteries of this world. But archeologists aren't in any demand these days. Without any other skills or talent, poor Marc got /fit/ and struggled through the army. Eventually he made it as a SHIELD Agent.

As the years passed, he managed to rise through the ranks, eventually becoming head of a small team of like-minded "freaks". During a "dig" in Egypt, the whole team was massacred, by a HYDRA Agent going by "Bushman". With his dying breath Marc took him down, inside the tomb of Khonshu. As he lay there dying, he felt a... presence. And thus, the Moon Knight was born.

Now a rogue without a team or organization to back him, Marc has to fend off for himself. He takes down criminal and terrorist organizations and uses their cash and gear to see through his crusade. He busts the bad guys' heads in and uncovers secrets and conspiracies.

Also, he kinda has to deal with an Eldritch God making a nest in his brain and slowly inhabitting his body, by making all the more agressive. Ripping off faces, kebabing goons and lashing out their guts. Ya know, normal vigilante stuff...

>>94398064
>Were you referring to me?
Yup. I liked all the stuff I read and would like to see more. They were very interesting takes.

>It's always nice to know that he has fans other than me. When was the last time he was even mentioned?
After that ANAD mini... I think he appeared in a single panel... somewhere.

>I like your take on him, especially because I love living artifacts that impose their will upon their owners. Even when the whole thing is just a psychotic delusion.
I like the concept of the character, and considering he's a pretty much blank slate with no defining stories or whatever, I thought him becoming a /pol/ack and DEUS VULTing with the help of Chthon would be interesting.

>The idea of Pirate Captain/Doctor Strange fighting against Doctor Doom, while dealing with very strange goths from another universe, makes me smile so big. I love it. I love you for it.
Thanks! I finished Black Sails a while back, and considering lots of Lovecraftian stories are tied with the water, I figured I'd give it a go. Honestly, I was looking for a new surname to give Stephen (Strange would be his moniker after his "rebirth") and then I remembered that Fisher means fisherman, then I made the connection the water, and then I went googling to find some pirate-places.

One thing I'm torn on is whether I'd have him be a paragon of goodness or have him start compromising his values for the greater good. I'm envisioning the book as having a very Star Wars-y feel, especially when Stephen heads for the stars looking for alien magic. Him being the Obi-Wan to Doom's Vader would be good enough, but I'm kinda tempted to go the Revan route with him.

>>94398219
I should add that I'd remake the various magic characters as 'Pirates" from various places. The "Magic Council" would be akin to the one from PotC. You'd have Doctor Voodoo as the Jamaican, Doctor Druid as the British, Wanda as the French, etc, etc. Obviously they wouldn't be actual pirates, but they'd have Pirate-y cues and whatnot, and they'd have clear "territories".

>>94397246
Wow, I was not expecting to want to read this so badly. I love body horror.

>>94398064
Well, I'm incompetent and screwed up my Trip, so I'll have to do it again. Crap. It was time for a new one anyways.

Continuing from >>94374837 , I really like stories where the characters can age out or die and stay dead. Except for Jean, who is iconic in her inability to stay in the ground for longer than six months at a time. In my canon, she would be the most powerful hybridization of two different "Species" of Mutant, and Apocalyptian Manipulator. Speaking of Hybrids and Dark Phoenix, Hybrids should be so rare as to be holy to some groups (like the Morlocks, who are mostly Hybrids,which is why they are so freaky in appearance and general theme). I would remove aliens from the mythos completely and keep it all localized on Earth, and preferably separate from the rest of the Marvel Universe if at all possible.

>>94398219
Aww, shucks! Thank-you, I'm really into the X-Men and Marvel in general if you couldn't tell.

Frankly, I think your Doctor Strange story has enough legs to be its own story, if you could put in the work. If "Fifty Shades of Grey" can go from a "Twilight" fanfiction to being its own thing, why not prospectively-better-and-more-interesting-in-concept fanfiction?

>>94398328
>Aww, shucks! Thank-you, I'm really into the X-Men and Marvel in general if you couldn't tell.

No problem!

>Frankly, I think your Doctor Strange story has enough legs to be its own story, if you could put in the work.
Eh, I'm studying physics, so I have a very limited window of free time. I write some fan-fics once in a while to relax, but I never finish anything. I don't have the time to plan ahead a whole plot.

Thanks for the compliment though!

When the planet Krypton is self-destructing, scientist couple Jor-El and Lara rocket their son Kal-El to planet Earth in a capsule.

The rocket lands in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. It ends up being discovered by an Atlantean couple herding fish in whatever the underwater equivalent of Kansas is. The boy seems normal, an Atlantean in all respects. Nobody except the parents know of who he truly is. Kral Ken grows up in extreme poverty, watching as his parents' herds are decimated by disease and pollution. When King Orm uses a war against the Surface World to consolidate his right to the throne in the wake of the death of Queen Atlanna, Kral is one of the first to enlist. As he marches on London with his squad, he experiences the light of the sun for the first time. A yellow sun, granting him powers beyond imagining. The Superatlantean is born.

Sorry to post slowly; I'm writing this as I go.

>>94398328
>...and Apocalyptian Manipulator
Should be "an" rather than "and." Sorry about the confusing typo.

I know that I said "separate from the rest of Marvel," but that's stupid. In my canon, I should just make the entirety of Marvel either Mutants or Inhumans, to keep it simpler. Then everybody gets their favorites, and aliens still get to show up.

Some rough ideas on the timeline for my X-Men story:
1799 - Namor born in a small Maine fishing community
1823 - Namor makes headlines after being distracted from his quest to find Atlantis, sinking a number of whaling ships in the Atlantic
1824 - Hercules joins forces with Namor, and the two of them fight evil, as well as bed everything and everyone, together as a duo
1856 - Henry McCoy born in Alberta, Canada
1863 - James Howlett (Logan) born in Alberta, Canada
1877 - Charles Francis Xavier born in Scotland
1880 - Hank convinces his parents to let him leave the McCoy Estate
1881 - Hank and Logan meet, and start their adventures
1889 - Charles Xavier accepted into Cambridge University
1898 - Charles Xavier, who has degrees in Anthropology, History, Literature, and Philosophy, is accepted into the Faculty of Cambridge University as Professor of Anthropology
1899 - Professor Xavier leaves Cambridge on grant, becoming a Professor Emeritus, and tracks down Hank and Logan
1899 (later) - Professor Xavier asks to be a part of Hank's and Logan's dream, which has always been his own as well
1901 - Ground is broken on the Xavier Institute for Mutant Research and Education somewhere secluded and far North into Canadian territory
1911 - Construction on the Institute is finished, although many Mutants and allies/families have already been living and studying there for years


>>94398390
Well Physics is a noble field of study, and not an easy one, so good luck in all of your endeavors! If you ever do write it, I hope I somehow get to read it.

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>>94398846
>Well Physics is a noble field of study, and not an easy one, so good luck in all of your endeavors! If you ever do write it, I hope I somehow get to read it.

Thanks for the kind words! As a last ideabefore my break's done, here's something I've been working on:

It'd be a Doom ongoing book, but with a twist. See, the first arc would be a fairly long one, detailing his early life, training with the Monks, takeover of Latveria, all of that jazz. It'd be framed as the tale someone is telling to a small boy. But with every cut to the present, the "past" would change. In one issue Victor would reference his Roma parents, and in other his Latverian single father. In another he'd mention Doom being his birthname, and in others he'd refuse to discuss the surname. In some cases he'd feel nostalgic for the Latverian palace, and in others he'd long for the freedom of his dad's fishing boat.

Those inconsistencies would start piling up, but they're more like contradictions, stories, made up by a fractured mind to cope with his tragedy. In the end of the "Origin of Doom", it'd be revealed that we were following the origin of many Dooms at the same time. A Doom of the year 2099. A Doom thatis actually Kang the Conqueror. A Doom in the Arthurian Times. Doom is a constant, would be the main theme.

And in the very end, it'd be revealed that the person they were telling the story to, was just another Doom, waiting for his "rebirth". And that Doom is... YOU(!) DUN DUN DUN. Kind of a 4th Wall Break.

I like this idea of Doom being a constant, and more of an idea rather than a person. As the series would progress, we'd focus on a single Doom (the one I mention here>>94356073), but the Council would appear many times, and we'd have "extra issues" of their adventures. Pirate Doom versus the British Navy, Ancient Greek Doom dethroning Zeus, Egyptian Doom and the killing of Anubis, and so on and so forth.

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My turn.

His brother dead at the hands of the Justice League in a final assault, Clark Kent decides one day to fight for truth and justice in a world of never ending darkness. Lex Luthor is a despot who controls everything, including a cyberized Justice League, heroes the people of the world grew too reliant on to solve their problems instead of themselves. The teenaged Clark leaves Wayne Manor to go to Metropolis, a city of technological wonder, to defeat the Justice League and avenge his brother, Bruce.

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>>94398846
Continuing the timeline from last post:

1911 - Hank and Logan go to places where there are reports of Mutants, telling their people of the Institute as a sanctuary
1912 - Namor & Hercules visit the Institute, asking for help in their quests. They bring with them strange technology from the old world as both payment and because they feel it should be kept in safe hands.
1912 (late) - The first two teams of "X-Men" head out on two separate missions.
One team is on a mission to help Namor find the truth of the "Atlantean" ruins he has discovered. This is the Blue Team, led by The Beast, investigating a High Evolutionary ship that crashed in the Atlantic in 4000 B.C.
The other team is on a mission to help Hercules find the truth of a rumor of "miracles" granted by the Olympian Gods that has turned out to be alien in nature. This is Wolverine leading the Gold Team, investigating alien tech left behind by the High Evolutionary in Ancient Greece that is stirring back to life and causing inactive X-Genes to activate.
1914 - World War I begins, and Canada lends aid to Britain and the Allies
1915 - The first public mention of the X-Men, as reported by European newspapers, as both the Blue and Gold Teams join the Allies on the Western Front. This is the first time members of either team have seen each other in three years.
1918 - World War I ends
1919 - The first modern sighting of Apocalypse, believed to be the same Mutant from Ancient Egypt named En Sabah Nur, who was rumored to be the first Mutant. It is said that World War I woke him up.

>>94399024
You're a cool guy with cool ideas, and I like you. I bet you're awesome to play Dungeons & Dragons with.

Doom being Kang makes so much more sense than Reed being Kang, especially since he's now the Maker and also now always becomes the Beyonder or some such nonsense. I think you might in a few scant posts here have done better with the characters you used than the current Marvel writers have in a long while.

>>94399374
>You're a cool guy with cool ideas, and I like you. I bet you're awesome to play Dungeons & Dragons with.

Thanks man, likewise! I'm loving the X-Timeline stuff. As for DnD, I never played, as it's not that well-known in my city.

>Doom being Kang makes so much more sense than Reed being Kang, especially since he's now the Maker and also now always becomes the Beyonder or some such nonsense. I think you might in a few scant posts here have done better with the characters you used than the current Marvel writers have in a long while.
Yeah, considering Kang is Doom but in a Warhammer 40k "God Emperor" way, it makes much more sense for him to be his descendant. I wrote a Kang pitch a while back as well. It had him trekking through the Universe and conquering galaxies before starting a Multiversal Empire. He'd have a bunch of AIs modeled after Alexander, Napoleon, Attila and others (Doom & Red Skull from the Marvel universe, maybe a Lex Luthor homage) as his "Inner Council"/Advisors.

>>94399540
Where do you live?

>>94399983
Pay Denbtds Land

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>>94399374
Continued again:

1919-35 - A variety of missions with new members on both the Blue Team and the Gold Team. Re-tellings of some classic stories with some new twists. The Institution continues to grow and grow, both in size and in number of residents/students. Multiple tussles are had with Apocalypse as he tries to assemble his Four Horsemen and go to war with everyone.
1933 - Magnus Lensherr born in Poland (Half-Latverian Romani/Half-Polish Jew in this canon)
1936 - Massive damage done to the Institute (and several casualties taken) by Apocalypse and his followers, and it all has to be rebuilt, which shelves any missions for a few years.
1939 - World War II Begins; Canada is involved on the Allied side from nearly the start and sends the newly-formed Department H, which Logan has left to work with
1942 - Magnus sent to Auschwitz

NOTES:
Warbird should probably die during WWI, and be the first casualty the X-Men ever suffer.

I loved "The Further Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix" and want to keep most of it canon, although Apocalypse wouldn't wake up until a tad later. I have no idea where to put Jean on the timeline, but I think I like her as being born in the same time period as En Sabah Nur, and that she is the most powerful Manipulator. I also like the idea of the Summers family going all the way back to Ancient Egypt, and giving a sort of "The Mummy" vibe to the romance of Scott and Jean. I prefer Jean to ultimately be a villain who sometimes sides with the good guys, and more of a force of nature than anything else. She IS the Phoenix.

>>94399540
> I never played, as it's not that well-known in my city.
That's a bummer. I bet you would love it, but frankly, you sound like you don't have time for it.

>The Legion of Dooms
I love the idea, and I really dig the heavy use of A.I. as advisors and minions. How would you use Kristoff Von Doom?

>>94400041
>>The Legion of Dooms
>I love the idea, and I really dig the heavy use of A.I. as advisors and minions. How would you use Kristoff Von Doom?

Well, the Legion of Dooms would bein the Doom book, whereas the AIs would be in the Kang book. Some ideas I have are:

>Council of Dooms

They would each have their respective goals in their native universe, but they'd be part of a Multiversal "Peace Keeping" Force. They would never interfere with another Doom's plans, and wouldn't cross to anothet AUunless its native Doom was gone. Their "Prime Directive" would be to help each Doom "ascend". Villain, Hero, whatever, they would turn Victor into DOOM. If there was a Victor who was content with a simple life, he'dbe either ordered to go through the Ordeal of Doom or perish, for having tainted the name.

>AIs
They'd be some of the best millitary mins in our history, plus a few OCs. Considering Kang is from the 40th century,it stands to reason that there would've been other conquerors between our time and his.

Their function would be to assist Kang and act as advisors. They'd get on each others' throats because of their different strategies, but they'd be humble servants of Kang (programmed that way).

Kang himself would be a man who's in it simply for the glory and the sport. He doesn't take any joy indestroying planets or commiting genocide, but eh, that's the job. Immortus would be Kang from down the line, acting as a Universal "Sorcerer Supreme" and "Time-Keeper".

>Kristoff
Doom would shag his childhood friend Valeria before going away for College. Upon returning to Latveria and becoming King, he'd track her down and find out he has a son. She'd try to blackmail him, but he'd strangle her in a fit of rage and take Kristoff back to the palace. Basically the same as in 616 but he's his biological son.

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>>94400041
Also, New Mutants (Series One) is my favorite comic book ever, and if you take it as a period piece set in the early 1980's it needs only minor tweaks to fit into my version of canon.

The timeline, continued yet again:
1931 - Namor hears rumors of and later finds an aquatic city that is not, in fact, Atlantis, but is populated by Mutants descended from Atlantean refugees, and he stays there to learn of his people for years
1940 - The X-Men join WWII
Blue Team is still led by The Beast at this point in history
Gold Team is led by Hercules in Wolverine's absence
Xavier has gone with to coordinate the two teams
1941 - America enters WWII, also sends the Howling Commandos led by Nick Fury (Classic Flavor)
1942 - Namor returns to the Institute, finds most of his friends are gone to war and that there is mail for him, and he heads home to Maine to get some things his family has left behind for him as the last of his know relatives from that family have died fighting for the Allies in WWII
1942 - America sends Captain America, Bucky Barnes, and The Human Torch (Hammond) to join the Howling Commandos on the battlefield as The Invaders and inspire the troops, and also to not be upstaged by news reports of the X-Men or Department H's flagship team Alpha Flight. Namor goes with and fights alongside the Invaders, but is actually there looking for the X-Men, especially Wolverine, as nobody has heard from or seen him in a few years.
1944 - Magnus's family is murdered at Auschwitz. He is then taken to a specialized Concentration Camp designed to study, combat/replicate the powers of, and then kill Mutants, known as Camp Mastermold by some. He meets Logan here. More notes on this in the next post I make.
1945 - WWII ends in Allied victory

>>94400226
I wish you worked for Marvel. Do you ever upload writings somewhere like Deviantart? If you do, I want to read some of your writings. Your ideas are amazing.

>>94400745
>I wish you worked for Marvel. Do you ever upload writings somewhere like Deviantart? If you do, I want to read some of your writings. Your ideas are amazing.

I have a Deviantart account, but no uploads. I use it for just favoriting stuff I like.

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>>94400839
Well, shoot.
I used to upload stuff to Deviantart, Tumblr, and a few other places, but I stopped years ago and shut my pages down.

>>94400745
On Camp Mastermold:
Hydra, the splinter-group of Nazis led by Baron Von Strucker, Helmut Zemo, Amahl Farouk, and Johann Schmidtt, started this camp to study Mutants and their powers. Schmidtt insisted on attempting to replicate the powers of several mutants that they had captured fighting for the Allied Canadians (several members of Alpha Flight, including Wolverine). His body is hideous now, but virtually-unkillable and super-strong as a result of this experiment, and he was given the code name The Red Skull. They tested Adamantium infusion on Logan first, and when successful, replicated the experiment on Schmidtt. Logan went berserk at the end of the experiment when Farouk tried to make Magnus destroy him, and fled into the Polish wilderness, killing Nazis and Hydra Purifiers left and right until being found by Xavier and Magnus. Farouk took command of Logan briefly, and just before being driven out by Xavier, stabbed the Professor through his spine, paralyzing him from the waist down. Xavier learned of Camp Mastermold from Logan's damaged mind, revealing its location, and it was obliterated by a group effort between the Howling Commandos, the Invaders, Department H and Alpha Flight, and both the Blue and Gold Teams of the X-Men in early 1945. Unfortunately, most of Hydra high command escaped, taking their research (as well as the mental essence of Farouk, A.K.A. The Shadow King, inside of their subconscious minds) with them to later use for the Sentinel program.

More Timeline stuff:
1945 - Captain America and Bucky disappear for different reasons. Human Torch is decommissioned. Namor returns to the Institute with the X-Men, along with an injured Xavier, as well as Logan, Magnus, and most of the refugees from Camp Mastermold.
1946-47 - The X-Men lick their wounds, house refugees, and recover from WWII.

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Posting a re-imaging of a team rather than a character, but I have a feeling that /co/ will like this one.

After the defeat of Onslaught, Charles Xavier was arrested and the government implemented anti-mutant policies. While these policies only lasted for a few weeks until their architect, Bastion was arrested, the effects that they had on the mutant community was huge. Jean Grey was apparently killed which appeared to be the straw which broke the camel's back for the X-Men.

Many members of the main X-Men team left. In fact, the only ones which remained were Gambit, Rogue, Cyclops, Psylocke, Storm and Beast. Those who didn't wander the Earth joined the X-Force, which now due to the death of Xavier, engaged in more proactive measures against anti-mutant groups and individuals. X-Factor meanwhile has become a team which while heroic finds themselves becoming a tool for the government and corporations.

What was left of the X-Men still protect a world that hates and fears them. However, it is a team which is being held together by the sheer willpower of the joint leadership of Storm and Cyclops.

At their wit's end, the two decide that their time is nearing it's end. However, as the team examines the world around them, they realize should they leave, there will be no one who truly carries on the dream which they all fought for. Which many of them died for.

With that thought in mind, the X-Men accept one last class of students into their school. A team of misfits and outcasts from across the world. Just like what Charles assembled all those years ago. However, this team is going to be more than just a replacement to an age that is long gone. No, this team is going to be something better. This will be the team which decides the fate of mutants and humans alike. They are the New X-Men and they will save the world.

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>>94401213
I think I'm just going to write this all out for myself and upload it somewhere, maybe as a written story, maybe as a fan comic I draw. So I'm all done here for now, as I have to get my day going, but as I think of more, let's chat about it!

Thanks for a beautiful, inspiring thread, OP!

>>94401754
I'd love to read that in its entirety some day!

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"Adam" (The only name he can remember) awakens in a blasted pit within a scorched, snowy forests. Naked, shivering, and covered in burns in the shape of chains and marks upon his skin that he cannot read, Adam wanders the snowy wastes, beset by beasts, the undead, and even nature itself. After harrowing weeks of desperate survival and near constant danger, the man stumbles upon a city, the first sign of civilization he had seen.

>The city is Novgorod, Russia. The Year, 1908. Thrust into this world without memory or knowledge of his surroundings, the man is taken in by kindly farmers at the edge of the city. Cast into chaos and brimming civil war, Russia has turned into a hive of crime and villainy. These revelations are brought to him by his caretakers, White Russians, loyalists to the murdered Tsar.

>Drawn to the Orthodox Church, Adam discovers his own sense of morality, a black and white adherence to justice and good. When his family is killed by Communists, Adam is consumed by flame, chains forming a charred aegis about his skeletal frame, and at his hand lay a scythe, at his back, great wings of smoke and fire. Adam sees this as his divine calling and by day, lives as grave digger and mechanic Adam Ogennyj, but at night he takes to his motorbike, hunting down criminals and communists, as well as super natural threats that are appearing in greater numbers

>>94402424
That's some damn good shit anon. Ideas on the villains?

>>94402424
Radical. I'd read that shit in a heartbeat.

>Arthur was an infant when he was discovered by a crew of a trading ship in late 19th century. He was adopted by one of the crew member and his wife and raised on an island. He could breathe and survive underwater and always had deep connections to aquatic creatures, especially an octopus who he names Topo. He begins working on ships at a very young age. On a journey, he meets a sharp witted nameless sea farer; A mix between Corto Maltese and Constantine, whom the crew discovers on an abandoned liferaft, and claims he was a ship captain caught in mutiny. He's revealed to be a pirate and about to be executed once they reach the land. He knows about Arthur's powers and is willing to reveal the secret behind them only if he's saved from being executed. Finally, Arthur gives in and escapes with him on the quest across the seven seas to find Atlantis, with the great War going on in the backdrop. Their crew includes of a now infamous and broke scientist who has been publicly decried for his claims about Atlantis, along with Topo and few others they meet on the road.

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>>94355925

>On a revolutionary journey to explore the moons of Saturn, four astronauts were caught in a freak radiation storm that granted them amazing powers and stranded them in distance space. With only a friendly alien named KORI as their guide, THE TITANS struggle to survive in a hostile galaxy lightyears away from home.

>THE TITANS:

>HANK HENSHAW/CYBORG: The Titans' leader and scientific expert. He has powers over technology and can control magnetic fields, but residual radiation from the accident that granted his powers is slowly causing his body to deteriorate. Hank Henshaw is dedicated to returning his crew back to Earth before he expires.

>RACHEL HENSHAW/RAVEN: The ship's medical doctor. Her powers transformed her into a psychic being composed of living shadows and emotions that can be utilized against others. Every day, she loses more and more of the woman she was. It comes and goes. At the worst times, she forgets her marriage to Hank and loses her material form.

>GARFIELD LOGAN/CHANGELING: The least effected emotionally was Garfield, the ship's engineer. Physically, his skin was dyed green and he can change into any animal he can think of, aliens included. He's also the group's optimist, seeing the group's accident as an opportunity to explore where no man has explored before.

>REX MASON/ELEMENT MAN: The pilot of their spacecraft was Rex Mason. The cosmic forces transmuted his body into a conglomerate of solid elements that can shift and change at will. He's hardly recognizable as human, and fears that his fiance will reject him for the monster he's become if they ever reach home.

>KORIAND'R (KORI): A humanoid alien that the Titans encountered early on their journey through space. Though she hasn't told them much about herself or her background, Kori agreed to act as the Titans' navigator after they rescued her from the sinister Psions. She can fly and project ultraviolet laser beams from her body.

>>94402424
Holy shit, are you saying that Ghost Rider would be responsible for the Tunguska Event?

>>94355925
>Green Arrow
His parents were killed in an alley by corporate fat cats. Ever since, he has waged a never-ending war on the rich

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>>94395872
I wanted to correct you that it's "Professor Zoom", but then I remembered that Hunter Zolomon was actually a Dr. without being Professor, go figure.

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>>94358819
Thinking about it, this version of Zoom would need to be from a near future, since by the 25th century any and all crippling injury would probably by easily healed or supported by perfect cybernetics.

>>94384510
So literally American Gods?

>>94356004
>>94380420
any more Laura smut?

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>>94399024
Eh, might as well post some of my Council of Doom members:

>Demon Doom
The guy with the horns would be Demon Doom. This one gave himself fully to the Dark Arts and went on a hunt of Sorcerers. He "ate" their life essence, he decimated their corpses, he slaughtered their pupils, etc, etc. He's essentially Sorcerer Supreme,but he grew so powerful after such a feast (and other,more interesting, adventures) that the title is simply beneath him. The most evil of Dooms that most dislike.

>Ultimate Doom
This one would be a revamp of Ultimate Doom. Sameorigin as in 1610, but noGoat-Legs or him being part of the experiment. He'd leave Baxter before it took place, and return home when news of his father's death hit. He'd have no reason to hate the F4 in this version, and he'd simply be an eccentric ruler... who's secretly doing his own experiments with occult forces and manipulates the markets. The mask would be ceremonial.

>Pirate Doom
A Doom from the Golden Age of Piracy. A fearsome Captain who rose to the position through sheer will and determination. After a run-in with a witch, he was marked, and was forced to wear his fearsome mask. He eventually became a Davy Jones-esque creature, tasked with preserving the dead.

>Viking Doom
A warrior so fierce that he was nicknamed "Doom" (in the... Nordic tongue...). He eventually rose to the rank of King, and through tampering with the occult manages to live on thanks to the Asgardians' blessings.

>Ancient Greek Doom
A warrior and philosopher from Athens that was at the forefront of the war against the Olympians. He managed to dethrone Zeus and steal his power, but he remains forever marked, hiding behind a crude mask.

>Roman/Byzantine Doom
A Roman peasant who managed through trickery and alchemy to eventually become a Byzantine Emperor, after the fall of Rome. His experiments cost him, and so he wore the mask to keep the populace from seeing his scarred and goulish face.

>Doom 2099
Here: >>94356073

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>>94404044
>The origin: According to old Atlantis mythology, Atlantis was punished by the gods. Recent Atlantis is divided into several territories and is far from it's golden days. According to a prophecy, a blonde haired heir would reunite Atlantis and bring it to it's glory days. But the Gods still fearing Atlantis' rise, feed propaganda to the other rulers regarding a blonde haired baby who is about to be born to Atlanna and vest control of their states from them. The other rulers get a pregnant Atlanna to be banished, by spreading a rumor that she has eloped with a surface dweller, and place the other heir Orm on the throne. As Atlanna is dying, she asks Poseidon to protect her baby. Poseidon is the only God protecting Arthur in his quest to find Atlantis, while the other Gods make sure that Atlantis remains hidden from Arthur.

>Black Manta: Black Manta, finally tired of getting outsmarted by Aquaman, travels to Olympus and prays to Gods to let him take his revenge on Aquaman. But Zeus says that he can only get his revenge on Aquaman in his reincarnated form. Black Manta, eager for his revenge, kills himself on the spot. In his reincarnated form, Black Manta is a family man, but he leaves his wife and kids once he sees Aquaman. He doesn't know why he hates Aquaman, but he still hates Aquaman to the core. This makes Manta's origin vague and mysterious, rather than the specific origin certain writers have tried to push. On the way, certain red herrings are seen about Black Manta. We're shown a black rights leader as an antagonist, a black guy whose father Aquaman kills, an autistic kid who Aquaman fails to save, but we're not shown who goes on to be Black Manta.

>>94402424
Would he get some kind of "Haven Armor" down the line, or would you keep the whole thing "down to Earth"? What would his first "chain-suit" look like?

>>94406569
I like this one quite a bit anon. Would you explore the whole ocean, create new kingdoms and whatnot?

>>94407735
Yep, both over and under the ocean. Arthur and crew have to travel to different islands and civilisations to search for Atlantis, and it involves pirates, cannibals, Sailor's tales, voodoo magic and the Great war. Stuff that you'd see in Corto Maltese.
Under the sea stuff would be more high fantasy, with different kingdoms split from Atlantis, other kingdoms with different humanoid species and giant sea creatures.

>>94408716
HNNNNNNG. Pirates and Sea-Monsters are one of my weaknesses. What about Mera? Would any JL-ers cameo? Maybe Wonder Woman?

>>94408860
>Mera
Haven't decided on her yet, but she has to be there and play a part.
>JL
Not really. WW1 would be too soon for them to make an appearance in their normal form.

>>94406110
trying to write some now, lemon fanfiction is hard

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>>94403664
In the beginning it's just wolves and the occasional bear. The survival act would be nearly silent, if I were a writer for it the book would be almost completely without dialogue from Adam, and the majority of story telling throughout would be told visually. As his trek reaches climax he is beset by creatures such as vampires, voydanoy, ghosts, fae, all the while a shadow hunts him in the distance, keeping him on the move. The supernatural elements deescelate as he reaches Veliky Novgorod

Once he reaches Novgorod, his adversaries are ruffians, murderers, and Communist enforcement. Here Adam developes a personality, stoic, quiet, and often abrasive, but not without a wry humour and an earnest, almost childlike helpful nature. Novgorod slowly shows it's dark underbelly, and beneath it lay the supernatural. Most of the villains from Marvel would be unchanged, but I would utilize Russian myth more than the Marvel mythos. For example, once he begins "Ghost Riding" in earnest, his enemies in Novgorod, St. Petersburg, and Moscow give him the moniker "Kochei" or the Deathless. Now this pleases Kochei the Deathless none, and be begins to hunt down this imposter. However their relationship morphs into a bizarre rivalry, neither able to kill the other, and both wanting to wipe away the Communists. Rasputin would feed into it heavily as another ally of convenience, using Adam as little more than a pawn from the shadows. Pic related would play a huge influence

Once he is figures out who, and what he is, powers such as Baba Yaga, Mephisto, Zadkiel, Blackheart, and Metatron would begin to appear, but very few of these would be physical conflicts (perhaps save for Blackheart) but instead arguments on morality and ethics, war and peace, as well as games of wit and skill in a very biblical or fairy tale fashion. This keeps Adam from becoming too overpowered and shows he's more than a beat stick.

Cont

>>94370795
Same anon here

I'll propably start to write this down and hope I don't fuck this up.

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>>94409894
Once the Great War breaks out, or he begins to travel abroad, I was thinking he could interact with Logan Howlett, Thor, perhaps even the Iron Fist of the time, or even Proto-Hydra, but I would much prefer to keep things more subtle and borrow less from the conventional marvel world. Mignola's works are a huge influence on most stuff I do.

>>94403951
Thanks anon. I almost feel compelled to try and do something with the idea.

>>94407718
That I'm not sure about. I'd want to keep things generally toned down for the most part, however due to the nature of his character it would make a lot of sense that he would be able to do so.

When he first "Ghost Riders out" like the Hulk, in reaction to his care takers being slaughtered, he is completely inhuman, an amalgam of fire and a twisting lattice of bone and iron creating a sinister aspect. The chains wrap about his form like restraints, almost like a straight jacket, and trail off to some unseeable point, obscured by fire and smoke. His scythe is completely otherworldly, a mastercrafted weapon, both a harvesters tool and a cleaning, reaping razor. It should be noted that this form is inaccessible to Adam for a long time, and it is clear that the chains that appear around him are restraints, and there is a power beyond even that. When he takes up administering justice, he initially uses a scythe, but without the power of his ghost rider form as he would be unsure how to recreate it, but finds that it's an inefficient weapon, and instead uses an Obrez and a spiked club (think trench club). When he finally is able to become the Ghost Rider (in a more toned down fire skeleton form) reliably he uses the club as a weight on his chains, that simply wrap around his forearms and ankles.

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>>94404474
Yes Adam is the angel Samael, the Archangel of Death. After witnessing the atrocities of mankind, and for seeing the Great War, and all the future wars that will make it small in comparison, Samael decides that the best way to save God's creation is to eliminate Humanity, the most dangerous creatures in Creation. Many angels, and other astral beings agree with this sentiment and rally to his side to invade Earth. Others see this as rash, or have their own plans with humans. Thus begins a civil war in Heaven, Hell, and throughout the beyond. The Archangels strike down at Samael, carrying with them the Lord's decree. His wings and body are bound by chain, his scythe taken, and his spirit set ablaze and cast to Earth. Before his exile from Heaven, he is given a way out. If he can find Adam, the original man, and slay him for the Original Sin, he will regain his wings and be allowed to purge the world. Should he fail he will live as a mortal and die with the creatures he despised upon Earth.

This of course is little more than a lesson, as Adam and Eve are long dead, their souls taken by Azrael, a lesser Angel of Death, who will assume Samael's duties. The purpose of the exile is to teach Samael compassion, and justice that is not cold and unfeeling, but filled with love and wrath, for the Lord's creations and his enemies. This quest will reforge Samael, and teach him what it means to be human, and to be humble. He will learn that the wicked amongst them must be punished, so the just may live free, and the strong must be humbled, so the weak can too find their strength.

When Samael travels to America after the Great War, following the stink of unholy evil to the shrouded mists of New England and the Great West, he joins circuses and minstrel shows to move about the country, taking the stage persona of Johnny Blaze, the Man Without Fear, acrobat, skilled motorist, and knife thrower.

>>94402424
>>94409894
>>94410496
>>94410781
Holy shit

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Final excerpt from the Diary of Arthur Curry,

"March 1st, 1912--

I fear a doom has come for the world of men. It may be too late to stop it. It is already too late for this poor soul.

The dreams have started again. They're much clearer now, and I find myself remembering much more when I wake-- though I would count it as a mercy if I did not. I am deep in the blue-green bowels of the ocean, and the Voice is there with me. It speaks to me, calling me Or'rn and in the dream I know with alarming certainty that this is my rightful name. That it has always been my name. Though I am so deep below the surface that no light could possibly pierce to illuminate, I am granted some otherworldly sight to make my way. I see the ruins of the Great City, walk its barnacle-crusted streets, its perverse alien architecture giving me an unpleasant sensation of vertigo even when I stand still. The Voice of the Dweller calls to me, and I follow it down into the City's central Palace, a mammoth facade massive beyond the works of human hands. I stand before its magnificence and the Voice speaks once more, only now it comes from within me, it is my own voice speaking!

'The age of Humans is at an end. As it was in days of old, the seas will rise up once again to drown the land, and the Ancient Old Ones will wake from their sleep of watery eons!'

My mouth twists itself into a gruesome smile around hundreds of needle-sharp teeth and I realize that I have far too many mouths. Despite this, I smile-- full of a wild maddening joy, because for the first time in my life, I will soon be among my own kind."

I am waiting for the judgement anon to judge all these origins.

>>94410929
What?

>>94409257
Yeah, I get the JL thing. It'd complicate matters a bit too much and take away from the story.

>>94409894
>>94410496
>>94410781
Holy jack-rabbits, this is darn great! One ofthe best in this thread!

>>94410126
Godspeed anon! It's a really neat idea and reminds me of Fables a bit. I'd certainly read it!

>>94411173
>Eldritch Aquaman
I'd read it anon, I'd read the hell out of it.

derp

the smut got deleted, I was reading that

>>94411979
Good riddens

>>94355925
The year is 1927,Chicago. These are the years of prohibition,Al Capone,substantial corruption in the police & government. Almost everyone is in a gang,in the take,or owes them money.

After a politician attempts to rape her,a secretary,Natasha Romanoff leaves her homeland Russia,moves to Chicago & marries who she finds out to be a two bit gangster wannabe. He routinely beats her & her child. One day,Romanoff stands up to her husband by telling him off. In a fit of rage,he kills her child. She vows never to take any half measures in dealing with violent,criminal scum, because people like her son get hurt.

She becomes the Black Widow, a vigilante who infiltrates criminal organizations by marrying or become romantically entangled with their members. She gathers information about these guys-what makes them tick, where they are at certain times, what gangs they are at odds against. Basically, its espionage at the street level. She uses the information to ignite gang wars, to help the local authorities, and random men, women and especially children who are victims to gangland and other criminal violence.

She rarely uses physical violence. Shes not a trained spy or a strong fighter. When she does have to take action herself-her weapon of choice is a silver plated tommy gun she calls "The Black Widows Bite" along the way-and after several botched missions, resulting in her getting beaten, mauled, nearly raped she eventually starts to study explosives as well.

A mob body guard that was hired to protect her falls in love with her, and joins her crusade. Hes her sidekick, and the muscle of the two. He trains her to fight, and how to kill more efficiently. He asks her to stop marrying criminals so she can get close and kill them, but she declines saying her work is too important. He eventually becomes one of her nemesis

there I spent like 30 minutes and came up with a more interesting, more gritty and intense female character than actual SJW marvel can.

>>94412173
I'd read it anon. Would her nemesis be a Red Guardian or Bucky analogue?

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Jason Blood is an intelligent but solitary young man, Jason is currently a student at Bludhaven University where he studies medieval literature.
He has very little memory of his youth, he distinctly remembers being sent from Gotham to Bludhaven at the age of six to live with his uncle Sebastian Blood.
This oppressive upbringing shaped much of Jason's personality and his relationship with others, particularly his uncle and any other religious figures who are often viewed with much animosity.

Once he turned eighteen Jason moved away from his uncle but was unable to leave Bludhaven and made himself content to continue his education at the local university. For some time life grew peaceful for Jason, that is until his abduction by the members of the Sanguine Church. What should have been his murder as a human sacrifice turned into something much worse as he would find.

Jason attributed his fractured memories of the ritual and the Voice in his head as symptoms of madness which would have been a mercy when finally meets Etrigan, and gains some insight into what happened to him. After being convinced that he is not crazy, Jason begins to investigate how he could get rid of Etrigan and in doing so meets some of the people who will play major parts in the coming conflict. When the Sanguine Church reveals its intent to draw Etrigan out of Jason through its obscene rituals, the pair form a pact of self-preservation and take the fight to the Church.

As the series progresses, Jason will become an expert in the occult and learn more about the true nature of the Church and its relation to Bludhaven. His relationships with his friends will grow more complex as he becomes more entwined with Etrigan and the occult.

>>94412557
Nice little spin. I still like the Medieval Knight stuff, but this a good update.

>>94412623
I've considered working that in somehow, but definitely I imagine this series being focused on bloodlines and predestination.

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Alright lads


How do we fit it all together?

>>94397575
This would be a soundtrack to listen to while reading the first issue of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gEvxw9XKzo

>>94412440
Thanks, I hadnt really thought of it, but it would make sense for him to be a Red Guardian analogue. It could be the thing that connects the two of them in the first place, he'd be a Russian mob enforcer who escaped Russia for political asylum but could never rise in the ranks because hes Russian. He turns on his employers because of that and his love for Natasha.

The politician who tried to rape Natasha would eventually offer to grant him safe return to Russia and his family. That, combined with Natasha turning him down, compels him to turn on her.

What do you think?

>>94412028
would it be in the archive or should I wait for smut anon to start a thread?

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>The Industrial Iron Man
Tony Stark is the head of Stark Industries, one of the worlds largest producers of consumer software and medical technology.
What the public doesn't know is that Stark Industries is one of the US Military's largest producers of high-tech weaponry in the form of UAV drones.

This information is leaked by a corporate saboteur know as GHOST, whose employers also orchestrate an explosion in Tony's labs.
Tony barely survives but is confined to a specialized room that maintains the bio-synthetic "neural net" that keeps his brain alive and well after the damage caused by the explosion.

Tony Stark is now the "Man in the Glass Tower" and his former partner has lead a hostile takeover of Stark Industries and partnered with Roxxon Inc.

With only his private Stark-Tech company left, Tony changes his image as a philanthropist based out of Silicon Valley.

Using the UAV technology created by his former company, Tony creates the heroic identity of IRON MAN as a non-lethal peace keeping drone.

But the road to hell is paved with good intentions, as this new hero sparks a revolution in weapons technology.

This is a series focusing on the ever present shadow of technology on society, the use of UAVs in a war theater, and corporate/industrial underhandedness.

>>94413194
Some notes:
- The "former partner" mentioned is obviously Obadiah Stane.
- The neural net maintains his brain's health and allows him to function normally but the technology is still young and keeps him confined to his Stark-Tech (StarkTek) headquarters. This replaces the arc reactor in his chest for something closer to the nanomachine technologies seen in later versions of Iron man.
- IronMan is a UAV drone, I think it makes more sense than armor.
- The shadowy company that hired GHOST and attempted to assassinate Tony is not Roxxon Inc. They are a separate entity.

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>>94413194
now thats some fucking god tier idea-ing, anon

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>>94413194
nigga i hope you take the iron man references out and turn this into its own god damn thing. this some conspiracy thriller cyberpunk shit i can get behind

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>Falcon: Aces High
Son of a preacher man, Samuel Wilson went to the Air Force hoping to get away from the rough-and-tumble streets of Harlem.
However being a pilot during the Second World War was far less safe than he could imagine.

While he was an excellent pilot, Wilson's higher ups would never allow him to fly missions outside of what they deemed “appropriate” for a Tuskegee Airman.
That is until Captain Steve Rogers sees Wilson's bravery first hand when a dog fight breaks out overhead during an aerial attack on the Captain's squad and Wilson survives a mid-air crash to take out the mechanical monstrosity sent by Red Skull and Armin Zola to kill the Captain.

Rogers extends an offer for Wilson to join the Invaders, a collection of Allied super soldiers.

Now under the call sign of FALCON, Wilson joins the likes of Captain America, Agent Barnes, Union Jack, the Human Torch, and the Blonde Phantom in their war against the Axis powers.

>>94396991
You should be writing Elsewords. I'd rather have this than Batman vs Joker for the billionth time

This was a great thread

What your favorite idea, anon?

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>>94355925
>but you can't make him a SHIELD Agent, give him implants, ditch the lawyer-stuff and costume, because then the only thing that resembles DD is the name.
>implying I can't take shit a step further than that

TANGENT COMICS: MARVEL EDITION

This Marvel Universe is a retro-futuristic take on today, allowing for anything from regular cape tales to science fiction to street level pulp action.

Earth's Mightiest Heroes are the Sentinels, a global task force that travels the world fighting crime and wronging rights. They don't always get along with each other, but they're all on the same team because they all have a genuine passion for making the world a better place.

The Sentinels:

John Jameson/War Machine: A New York beat cop that was bonded to an alien nanite swarm named Ultron. He can 'eat' technology to temporarily gain it's functions and can change into a biomechanical combat form as War Machine.

Emma Frost/Frostbite: The spoiled daughter of retired hero Iceman, who only became a hero so that her father wouldn't cut off her spending money. She later decided she liked being an beloved celebrity and (much later) a real hero.

Colossus: A bronze statue brought to life by a wizard named Lykos. Due to his first exposure to human culture being Italian sword-and-sandal films, the Colossus decided to fight evil like the legendary hero, Hercules. He's very boisterous and mostly communicates through shouting.

The Black Cat: An outcast member of the Black Panthers, a tribe of cat people that have existed in the shadows of mankind. He was cursed at birth, causing bad things to happen wherever he went. As an adult, he learned to weaponize his curse so he could jinx supervillains' plans.

That's all I have so far. I wanted to have at least 5 members, but I couldn't think of anything. Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?

>>94417306
We should have threads like these more often.

>>94420575
Agreed. Once a week or two should be fine, right?

>>94412805
I like it. Reminds me of those recent gangster sows, like Peaky Blinder or Boadwalk Empire. I'd read it anon!

>>94413194
Well darn, that's one hell of an update.

>>94412783
I'm the Doom/Strange/Black Knight anon, and I already know a way to connect my stuff. Green Goblin, LoveHulk, Alien Gods & GR could also fit. Dunno about the rest. TBQH, I always felt the X-Men worked better in their own U, so IDRK... Maybe go with the X-Anon's Timeline idea, have the world be overrun by the Nazis like in the MAITHC anon's idea, and put Black Widow anon's idea in that world.

>>94420613
I'll keep an eye out for them, anon.

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I've got a bit of free time, so might as well add some more stuff to this:

>The Hood
He's like Agent 47 from hitman. If Agent 47 wore a bright red cloak with silver clasps, had two silver hanguns hanging from his Western-Themed Belt and could turn into a demon. In reality he's Cain, the first murderer, and is thus cursed to roam the land and add souls to Hell's Army. Kinda like Spawn, but legitimately evil.

>Mother of Demons
Lilith. Shiklah It's the same name. Daughter of Satan. Daughter of Dracula. What's the difference? Witch, Succubus or Hellspawn. Who knows, really? In reality she's a spirit from Hell, the Biblical Lilith, who possesed Dracula's daughter when she was a small child. Ever since she's been working to bring on Armaggedon.

>Kalluu
Evil Sorcerer from the Pirate Times. He was screwed over by Strange's ancestor and sealed away in a cave, for the men feared of his mad ambition and powers. He has a hard-on for Strange and only wishes to cause him misery and pain.

>Hellstrom Siblings
The Siblings from Hell, they engage in sexual acts and roam the world, preaching wickedness and extreme hedonism. So kinda like those Preachers-on-the-Road, just with siblings who fuck each other.

>Chthon
The One true Satan. Before Samael's fall, he was there, the opposite of God. All the evil, twisted shit every single being in the Universe has done, has been his delight. Whereas Lucifer is a tragic figure, Chthon is just darkness and hate. Nothing more, nothing less. He's "le ebin EdGY Joker" but without the fun or jokes. He's a Goreporn-tier villain.

>Namor
King of Atlantis, Protector of the Seas, and the one thing keeping the Eldritch Horrors that reside in the deep at bay. His kingdom is now a bunch of ruins, and he's a long-haired, bearded guy in rugged but still regal armor. He's been alive since the Roman times, has spend a life as an adventurer, gladiator, and King. Now he's just a relic with a job...

I'm also working on some more.

>>94422479
>Doctor Voodoo
On one hand I want him to be Strange's laid-back Sorcerer friend who never loses his hope, but one the other I wanna genderbend him into a hawt black goddess who's fuckbuddies with Strange. Decisions, decisions, decisions... Maybe I can make his ancestor a Voodoo Pirate Witch and swap Jericho's brother's spirit with her? We'll see.

>Scarlet Witch
The one being in the universe engineered for Chthon. She's a French Artist Wonderchild, rich as hell to boot, but unaware of her destiny. She studies under Strange after Chthon comes gunning for her, in the from of her deceased twin, Pietro.

I have some more ideas apart from revamping old foes. Maybe an Illuminati-like group linked to HYDRA & the Thule Society, spearheaded by Morgana Le Fay posing as Madame Hydra. We'll see.

>>94384306
I'd love a line of double Dickbats, too.

>>94411597
Goblin-Anon again...
I'm not good at writing, just have good plott ideas from time to time.

Should probably ask some writefags to do this for me.

>>94422925
I'm not a good writer either anon, but it's important to write your own story. It's yours, and it's you who should do it. At the end of the day, it's a way to escape reality, chill and put some words there. Hell, I'm imagining PirateStrange butt-fucking Female Doc Voodoo. Just chill and let your imagination and hidden pervert go wild. If you give it to someone else, you'll regret it.

>>94423023
Well, your right
I'm going to write it down
Wish me luck!

>>94423063
Godspeed anon!

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>a foster kid with a nerdy disposition with no powers gets made fun of by his classmates for "wishing he was a hero", saying heroes dont exist anymore
>a neo-villain captures one of his classmates in front of him
>an old hero on the verge of retirement hesitates to save the kid because he's old and isnt as fast as he used to be
>our protag goes up to try and fight the villain despite being powerless
>villain smacks Barry into a transformer, shocking him with electricity
>seeing such bravery from a kid, the old hero berates himself and goes to to save both the kids
>later on, Barry is in the hospital, getting treatment for 3rd degree burns and shit
>as the nurses and doctors leave him to rest, blue lightning fainly glows around his body
>one of the doctors is actually Jay Garrick, the old hero
>looking at the test results, he finds that the shock, combined with the radioactive goop the villain left of the kid when he attacked him, gave the kid powers similar to Jay's in his youth
>Jay then decides he will train Barry to become the next Scarlet Speedster and help him harness his powers to become a Beacon of Hope to Central City

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>Think of a /co/ character.
Impulse.

>Now you have to reinvent their origin story. You can change whatever you want, within logical parameters. For example,you have Murdock gain cyber-implants and become Daredevil, but you can't make him a SHIELD Agent, give him implants, ditch the lawyer-stuff and costume, because then the only thing that resembles DD is the name.
Okay that's not so hard....

>But here's the catch/swerve to make things interesting:
Uh oh.

>You also have to change the setting/time period/universe. Having Peter be the son of AIM Agents who's also black and gay is "new" and all,but hardly a revamp. So why not put him in a futuristic world, or turn him into a Spider-Monster in a fantasy land? That kinda stuff.
Mrgrowl.... damn you.

Fine. I'll be following certain leads from the Young Justice cartoon.

Bart is the grandson of Malcolm Thrawne, Barry Allen's twin brother. In the future 30+ years in the future the Reach has conquered Earth and Iris Allen has recruited the kid as a surrogate grandson, sending him back to the present-day to thwart the Reach invasion.
The time travel process is bumpy and Bart makes a hash of things. He tries to put things right with the heroes of this era by charging into battle against the villain Jenny Fractal -- only to be batted aside... and further back in time.
Bart is now in the Old West. And he's stuck there. He ends up apprenticed to the superhero Windrunner (later known as Max Mercury) while they try to put things 'right' in regards to Bart's own fractured knowledge of what went wrong -- efforts which cause them to run afoul of "Joe Rum" (Djo-Rum) the Jade Beetle which was the partner of Kaji-Da when sent to Earth 7000 years ago and is still active and causing trouble.
Max eventually manages to fix Bart's speed to the point he can run ahead and skip forward to the present day -- but the effect is temporary so he keeps bouncing back and forth between the present and the old West, where he makes his home.

Howdy, y'all. X-Men-Guy reporting in. I've been having a busy day, but I'm free for a while. I updated the timeline and streamlined it all together while doing other, more-responsible crap all day. I'll post what I have thus-far in a little while. I'm glad to see that a few people liked it! I have no idea on how to interconnect these ideas, as a few Anons have suggested, and I think that it can definitely be done, but I don't want to step on anyone else's idea-toes.

>>94423063
YESSS!
I seriously can't wait to read it all, and hope that I get the chance somehow. Maybe like the other Anon said, we can have more of these threads.

Bumping for X-Anon

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Thanks for keeping the thread alive for me, friendos! This is going to be a long post of the timeline and story as I have it thus-far, and is going to take multiple posts. I hope that you all enjoy it.

>>94401754
Timeline posts (condensed/patched together):

~4,050 B.C. - En Sabah Nur, the first and most-powerful Mutant, is born/created by the High Evolutionary. He later becomes a great leader of a tribe of proto-Mutants known as the Akkaba in Egypt by taking over an abandoned High Evolutionary ship buried under what would later be known as Cairo that he instinctively finds and understands, and re-names himself Apocalypse. He continues down that bloodline as the most powerful Apocalyptian (and the source of their namesake). Every 666.5 years, he slumbers in his ship deep under the surface of the Earth for 333.5 years to refresh his physical form and process data through his machines, although he can manifest through and control his descendants (with the exception of the Phoenix line).

~3,400 B.C. - A woman named Madelyne, more-often known as "The Daughter of Apocalypse," is born. Her mother is an early example of an Omega Mutant, and she is an early example of a Hybrid Mutant. Unlike many Hybrid Mutants, she is not sterile, and she has a long line of descendants to manifest through and live on inside of.

~3,333-3,000 B.C. - "The Daugher of Apocalypse's" reign of terror while her father slumbered, burning much of Northern Africa and the Middle East as she went through body after body and life after life, earned her the name "The Phoenix," or "Eanqa'" in Arabic.

~3,000 B.C. - Apocalypse seals The Phoenix away to be dealt with later in a coccoon made of High Evolutionary technology beneath the Nile River in what would later be Cairo, Egypt.

~200 B.C. - Hercules, a powerful Beast Mutant, is born somewhere in Greece. His powers differ from other Beast Mutants in that his lifespan is still being measured and he is virtually-unkillable.

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Back then, your boy used to be a Hitman. One of the gosh-darned best, y'know? Want'im wacked in the head and thrown to the sharks? Done. Want'im wacked while he's fucking his mistress? Done. Hell, you even want him to get a toothpick in the urethra while he's pissing? Done and done.

But y'see, that was before 'em thugs came looking. Well, technically they're the world police or someshit, but fuck it. Point is, they got me busted. Real darn good. I mean hell son, my kill count was in the un-calculable-s! I was on fucking fire! Anyway, either take the deal, or don't, that was the ultimatum. And I'm no stupid little shit.

So, here I am, wearing these ridiculous duds and playing hero... by killing people... just for the guys in suits instead of mob bosses... Y'know, it seems to me things are not that different if you think about it...

AU where Hawkeye is actually Bullseye and is working for SHIELD. He fucks bitches, caps fuckers and remains a bastard.

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>>94425572
~760 A.D. - The Knights of the Round Table, later revealed to be the Inhuman Royal Family, disappear mysteriously while out crusading for the Holy Grail, later said to be something called the Terrigen Chalice.

1799 - Namor McKenzie is born in a small Maine fishing community to poor fisher parents.
Nathaniel Essex, a direct descendant of Apocalypse, is born to wealthy doctor parents in London, England.

1819 - Namor's parents tell him the truth about his origins: That his mother is a Beast Mutant who became entangled in his father's fishing net one fateful day, and that upon meeting they fell in love.

1820-23 - Namor leaves his home in Maine, vowing to return someday, and quests to find Atlantis. He theorizes that there must be more people like him and his mother somewhere out there in the world's oceans, and he pursues every lead that he can find, sometimes by illegal means.

1823 - Namor makes headlines after being distracted from his quest long enough to sink a number of whaling ships in the Atlantic, causing a number of casualties.

1823 (late) - Hercules, reading the newspaper over a between-adventures breakfast one morning, decides that he likes Namor's style.

1824 - Hercules joins forces with Namor, and the two of them fight evil, as well as bed everything and everyone, together as a duo. (Namor and Hercules are both bisexual in this canon.)

1824-1912 - The marvellous adventures of Namor and Hercules take them 'round the world!

1827 - Namor's mother dies mysteriously, despite being a Beast Mutant. Namor's father becomes a drunk immediately after her death, and commits suicide not long after that. Namor was away adventuring with Hercules, and only found out that they had died when he returned years later.

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>>94425600
1831 - Namor returns home, accompanied by Hercules, only to find that his paternal uncle is living in his childhood home now and his parents are dead. He does not deal with things well, taking out his aggressions on anyone stupid enough to be in his way for a number of years, even Hercules.

1835 - Namor and Hercules make nice-nice, and resume their fun adventures.

1856 - Henry "Hank" McCoy is born in Alberta, Canada to wealthy land and lumber baron parents. His Mutations are seen as a gross deformity by his father, but his mother loves him and dotes on him anyways. Mister McCoy would do anything to keep his beloved wife happy, so they keep the baby Hank, and never let anyone who is not emplyed inside their Estate ever see him or hear of him.

1863 - James Howlett (later known as Logan) is born in Alberta, Canada. The entirety of the comic book "Origin" remains canon, with the minor tweak that Dog Logan is truly, actually Victor Creed/Sabretooth later rather than a different character, and he is also definitely Wolverine's half-brother.

1870 - A woman in France gives birth to a mysterious baby with black eyes. She has no husband, and does not remember laying with a man. She names her miracle baby Remy. Mister Sinister keeps tabs on his son for the rest of his life, sometimes through his own eyes.

1877 - Charles Francis Xavier is born in Scotland, the son of wealthy industrialists.

1880 - Hank convinces his parents to let him leave the McCoy Estate, on his father's condition that he is now disowned from the family as well as their fortune and properties, as his "conditions" being known would shame them. He never sees them again, at his father's insistence, and is not even able to attend his parents' funerals. His mother never stops missing him.

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>>94425621
1881 - Hank and Logan meet, and start their adventures together. Hank took Logan under his wing, and taught him new things to replace those he had forgotten. It would be a long road, for both of them, but they became fast friends. They connected over their mutual lack of understanding of the world around them. Hank had to teach Logan basic things like how to read, but Logan seemed to know many things beyond his years of experience about fighting and surviving. Within their first few weeks together, they became lovers. (Logan and Hank are both bisexual in this canon.)

1881-1899 - Hank and Logan go on adventures across Canada, and sometimes the American Northeastern Coast, seeking Mutants to help and looking for the answers to life's questions together.
"We should start a school for Mutants, teaching Reading, Writing, and the Arithmetic of Fighting!" Hank liked to joke about it in those days, but by 1899, the two young-looking Mutants had a bit of a reputation across the Canadian frontier as heroes.

1889 - Charles Xavier accepted into Cambridge University

1898 - Charles Xavier, a masterful prodigy who has degrees in Anthropology, Biology, History, Literature, and Philosophy, is accepted into the Faculty of Cambridge University as Professor of Anthropology.

1899 - Professor Xavier leaves Cambridge on grant, becoming a Professor Emeritus, and tracks down Hank and Logan in Nova Scotia after seaching for them for months. Professor Xavier asks to be a part of Hank's and Logan's dream, which has always been his own as well, and they accept him and his offer to help fund their crusade.

1901 - Ground is broken on the Xavier Institute for Mutant Research and Education somewhere secluded and far North into Canadian territory.

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>>94425657
1901-1911 - The Institute is under construction, with the dormitories and living quarters being finished first to accomodate the Mutants, allies, and families already living and studying there. The Drake Family, Jean Grey, the remnants of the Proudstar Tribe (Oji-Cree in this canon), Warren Worthington III, orphaned twin siblings Alex and Scott Summers, Sean and Thomas Cassidy, and Xavier's step-brother Cain Marko are among those living at the Xavier Institute.

1908-1910 - Charles Xavier takes a trip home to Scotland after receiving word of his father's death, and returns with the love of his life, Moira MacTaggart, the Mutant-researching Professor of Biology at Cambridge University who had caught his eye decades earlier. With them come the Cassidy boys, Sean and Thomas, as well as Charles's step-brother Cain Marko. Cain had approached Moira a month after his parents had died, begging that she help him figure out what to do about his cousins, Thomas and Sean, as their parents had died in an accident and they had been shipped off to their only known living relative unannounced. Cain knew that Moira was an expert on Mutants and friendly to his family, and he had nothing to his name as a step-son and an Irishman as well as a Mutant cousin whose screams woke the neighbors, and she agreed to look after them, until Charles returned and took them all to his new home in Canada.

1911 - Construction on the Institute is finished, although many Mutants and allies/families have already been living and studying there for years. Hank and Logan, guided by Charles, go to places where there are reports of Mutants, telling their people of the Institute as a sanctuary
Somewhere in a hidden location far to the North, there exists what is now a historic Canadian institution: The Xavier Institute for Mutant Research and Education. Despite the name, Hank and Logan were also heavily involved in running and publicizing the sanctuary and school.

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>>94425697
1912 (late) - The first two teams of "X-Men" head out on two separate missions.

One team is on a mission to help Namor find the truth of the "Atlantean" ruins he has discovered. This is the Blue Team, investigating a High Evolutionary ship that crashed in the Atlantic sometime around 4,000 B.C. The Blue Team's roster is: The Beast (Leader), Namor, Mimic, Marvel Girl, Iceman, and Banshee

The other team is on a mission to help Hercules find the truth of "miracles" granted by the Olympian Gods that has turned out to be alien in nature. This is the Gold Team, investigating alien tech left behind by the High Evolutionary in Ancient Greece that is stirring back to life, causing inactive X-Genes to activate and killing those with latent Terrigenesis-compatible Inhuman genetics. The Gold Team's roster is: Wolverine (Leader), Hercules, Angel, Thunderbird, Havok, and Cyclops

Hank: "The two teams need names, and I propose that we utilize a color-coded system for reference. Blue as the Atlantic sea, and Gold like the Olympian Fleece, to reflect the nature of our two missions."
Logan: "More like blue like your beautiful eyes, and gold like my uniform on your office floor."
Then the two of them make out and have sex in Hank's office.

1913 - Thomas Cassidy accidentally activates one of the devices left behind by Namor and Hercules with Cain Marko, activating both of their latent X-Genes.

1914 - World War I begins, and Canada lends aid to Britain and the Allies
1915 - The first major public mention of the X-Men is reported by European newspapers, as both the Blue and Gold Teams join the Allies on the Western Front. This is the first time members of either team have seen each other in three years. Cyclops and Marvel Girl have missed each other, but don't immediately become involved with one-another due to The Great War going on around them. Logan and Hank have REALLY missed each other, and have a lot of catching up to do.

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>>94425776
1916 - Thunderbird dies in the line of duty, and is the X-Men's first casualty out in the field. A few months later, Havok is lost and presumed dead, not to be seen again for some time.

1918 - World War I ends

1918 (late) - Scott Summers and Jean Grey begin a rapid courtship that ends in marriage just two months later. Bobby tries to object to their courtship at every turn, but soon drops it completely for no apparent reason right before their wedding. At the party after Jean's and Scott's wedding, Bobby and Warren announce to their fellow X-Men that they, too, are planning to start a life together. Up until this point, Bobby had been a known womanizer and was quite-interested in Jean at times. Only Scott had known of Warren being a homosexual, as he had confided in him during the Great War while waiting to succumb to injuries that neither of them knew that his healing factor would overcome.

1919 - The first modern sighting of Apocalypse, believed to be the same Mutant from Ancient Egypt named En Sabah Nur, who was rumored to be the first Mutant. It is said that World War I woke him up earlier than he had planned. He awakens his daughter, Madelyne the Phoenix, and pushes her into marrying a confused and lost Alex Summers. Having heard of the Xavier Institute and having seen the horrors of Apocalypse, Gambit and a young street-thief he has adopted named Storm head for Canada to warn the X-Men of what is coming for them.

1919 (late) - Nathaniel "Nate" Summers is born at the Xavier Institute to Scott and Jean Summers. At the exact same moment in Cairo, Nathaniel "Nate" Summers is born to Alex and Madelyne Summers.

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>>94425859
1919-35 - A variety of missions with new members on both the Blue Team and the Gold Team. Re-tellings of some classic stories with some new twists. The Institution continues to grow, both in size and in number of residents/students. Multiple tussles are had with Apocalypse as he tries to assemble his Four Horsemen and go to war with everyone. Hank retires from missions during long periods of this time, but stays a teacher and continues to train the younger students in the use of their powers when not out adventuring with his friends.

1931-1942 - Namor hears rumors of and later finds an aquatic city that is not, in fact, Atlantis, but is populated by Mutants descended from supposed Atlantean refugees. He stays there to learn of his people for several years.

1933 - Eric "Magnus" Lensherr is born to poor farmers in Poland. His mother is a Latverian Romani immigrant and his father is a Polish Jew. This will not bode well for them in the coming decade.

1936 - Massive damage done to the Institute and several casualties taken by Apocalypse and his followers in a huge battle, wherein he claims three of the X-Men as Horsemen, and it all has to be rebuilt, which shelves any missions for a few years. Ultimately, The Twin Phoenixes (The Flames of War), Archangel (The Wings of Death), Iceman (The Cold Clutches of Famine), and Mister Sinister (The Progress of Pestilence) can not be saved and are taken away by Apocalypse to his ship to recover from his war with the X-Men of the last fifteem years. Cyclops and Havok are also taken along as breeding stock at both of The Phoenix's and Mister Sinister's request. Apocalypse's ship departs the world, destroying Cairo, giving Mutants a worse reputation than they already had, and proving the existence of alien life to everyone in one fell swoop. Gambit and Rogue die happily together in each other's arms, having dealt a grievous wound to the supposedly-unkillable Apocalypse and finally proven their worth to the X-Men.

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>>94425890
1936-1940 - The Xavier Institute is being rebuilt amidst a somber period of mourning.

1939 - World War II Begins; Canada is involved on the Allied side from nearly the start and sends the newly-formed Department H. Logan has been working with them for almost a year at this point, using the time away from the Xavier Institute to hide his pain and guilt over the Apocalypse disaster, and he decides to go to war with them to let out some of his rage.

1940 - The X-Men join World War II.
The Blue Team is again led by The Beast at this point in history, and consists of him, and ______.
The Gold Team is led by Hercules in Wolverine's absence, and consists of him, and _________.
Professor Xavier has gone with to coordinate the two teams. Banshee and a reformed Emma Frost are left in charge of the Institute in his and Hank's and Logan's absences.
THESE TEAMS ARE STILL UNDECIDED

1940-1945 - The Greatest Generation X

1941 - America enters WWII, also sends the Howling Commandos led by Nick Fury (Classic Flavor)

1942 (early) - Magnus and his family are sent to Auschwitz

1942 (early) - Namor returns to the Institute, finds most of his friends are gone to war and that there is mail for him, and he heads home to Maine to get some things his family has left behind for him as the last of his know relatives from that family have died fighting for the Allies in WWII

1942 - The American President sends Captain America, Bucky Barnes, and The Human Torch (Jim Hammond) to join the Howling Commandos on the battlefield as a team called The Invaders and inspire the troops, and also to not be upstaged by news reports of the X-Men or Department H's flagship team Alpha Flight. Namor weasels his way in and goes with and fights alongside The Invaders, but is actually there looking for the X-Men, especially Wolverine, as nobody has heard from or seen him in a few years since he left for Europe with Department H.

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>>94425914
1944 - Magnus's family is murdered at Auschwitz. He is then taken to a specialized Concentration Camp designed to study, combat, and replicate the powers of, and then kill, Mutants. This Concentration Camp, headed by the splinter group of Nazis known as Hydra, is called Camp Mastermold. Magnus meets Logan here. Refer to notes on Camp Mastermold for more detailed information on both it and the years 1944-45 (I posted it in
>>94401213 , but it has undergone some revisions since then).

1945 (early) - Amahl Farouk cripples Xavier. Camp Mastermold is destroyed. Captain America and Bucky disappear for different reasons hunting down Hydra High Command. The Human Torch is decommissioned after returning home. Nick Fury is made head of a new organization known as S.H.I.E.L.D., and he takes the surviving Howling Commandos with him as his High Command and sets up an office in the American Sector of Berlin. Colossus, a Russian soldier and known Mutant who helped in several skirmishes during the war, stays with as a Russian liaison for Colonel Fury. Namor returns to the Institute with the surviving X-Men, along with an injured Xavier and an absolutely-ruined Logan, as well as Magnus and most of the refugees from Camp Mastermold.

1945 - World War II ends in Allied victory. Department H establishes themselves as protectors of the people very publicly, and they are treated as such. Both Alpha Flight and the X-Men are regarded as international heroes, doing wonders for the Mutant image across the globe.

1945-1951 - The X-Men lick their wounds, house refugees, and try to recover from World War II. Magnus helps re-purpose the technology that was left in their hands with his magnetism powers, putting the finishing touches on the already-used and present Cerebro and Danger Room.

1948 - Colossus arrives at the Xavier Institute, begging for help in finding his sister Ilyana, who has disappeared mysteriously. No traces of her can be found.

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>>94425954
1950 - Magnus, growing frustrated with the inaction of the X-Men, leaves the Xavier Institute. He takes his fellow Camp Mastermold refugees Mystique, Colossus, Pyro, Avalanche, Toad, Mastermind, The Blob, and Sabretooth, as well as a malcontent Juggernaut with him. He heads back to Europe, retracing his family heritage and helping Mutants along the way, and he and his Brotherhood of Mutants end up on the Latverian border. They use some extreme measures that make them villains in Europe and only questionably heroes to most Mutants.

1951 - The twins Wanda and Pietro Maximoff are born in Latveria, the children of Magnus and Bova, who dies in childbirth.

1981 - Charles Xavier dies of old age at 105 years old. On his deathbed, he asks Magnus to try peace one last time, and leaves responsibility for the New Mutants in his hands. Magnus becomes Magneto, and becomes a leader within the Xavier Institute.

1999-2000 - Terrigen Mist clouds begin to rise into the atmosphere from all over the world, killing millions and transforming thousands. Terrigen Mist is fatal to Mutants, and this reduces their numbers drastically. Just as Wanda had predicted, when she said "No more mutants."

2000 - Medusa, Black Bolt, and the Inhuman Royal Family make a public appearance. They offer sanctuary to any new Inhumans, and attempt to make reparations for the high death toll.

>>94426009
And that's all I have so far. I'm still trying to fit Nightcrawler in. New Mutants (Series One) is going to fit into the timeline in the 1980's somehow. There are gaps here and there, and likely some continuity errors or things I haven't written down yet. I hope everyone is enjoying this, I know I am!

>>94426035
Oh yes, and some clarifying posts.

All Mutants live longer than "regular" Humans by about 150-200%, and are often considered the ideal physical form unless their Mutation says otherwise. They come in five different "Species." Most Mutants are born at-random as descendants of other Mutants, but sometimes a child is guaranteed to be a Mutant, and sometimes two types of Mutants can produce a Hybrid offspring.

The five different "Species" of Mutants are:

>"Apocalyptians" - Powers that involve their own individual genetic timelines, including a sort of time travel that involves assumption of previous and future selves, ancestors, and/or descendants (Apocalypse, Gideon, Mister Sinister, Madrox, etc.)

>"Beasts" - Feral instincts, animal-esque traits, healing factor that extends lifespan to much longer than even any other type of Mutant (Wolverine and Co., Beast, Wolfsbane, Angel, etc.)

>"Hunters" - Those with the ability to influence other Mutant's powers, whether stealing them, copying them, or shutting them down and/or powering them up (M, Rogue, Leech, Caliban, Callisto, etc.)

>"Omegas" - Those with telepathy and/or telekinesis, and includes all shapeshifters and elementalists, both literal and psychically-projected (Emma, Professor Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Pyro, etc.)

>"Pushers" - Energy blasters and/or manipulators, often unable to harm other mutants and/or those related (or usually something similar) (Cyclops, Havoc, Gambit, etc.)

>>94426144
On Camp Mastermold, and the events after its destruction:

Hydra, the splinter-group of Nazis led by Baron Von Strucker, Helmut Zemo, Amahl Farouk, and Johann Schmidtt, started this camp to study Mutants and their powers. Schmidtt insisted on attempting to replicate the powers of several mutants that they had captured fighting for the Allied Canadians (several members of Alpha Flight, including Wolverine). His body is hideous now, but virtually-unkillable and super-strong as a result of this experiment, and he was given the code name The Red Skull. They tested Adamantium infusion on Logan first, and when successful, replicated the experiment on Schmidtt.

Logan went berserk at the end of the experiment. Farouk tried to make Magnus destroy him, and the two of them fled into the Polish wilderness. Logan went feral, killing Nazis and Hydra Purifiers for nearly a year. Magnus wandered Southwest for nearly a year, looking for the Allied Front which he had heard about during his time as a prisoner, until being found by Xavier. Magnus's thoughts led Xavier and the X-Men back to Camp Mastermold's general area, where they encountered both a wild-eyed Logan, as well as Farouk, out looking to finally kill The Wolverine. Farouk could not take command of Logan as his mind was too savage in his current state, and Xavier was more powerful than Farouk, so he went for young Magnus instead. Just before being driven out by Xavier, Farouk/Magnus manipulated Logan's metal body into stabbing the Professor through his spine, paralyzing him from the waist down.

Xavier learned of Camp Mastermold from Logan's damaged mind, and it was obliterated by a group effort between the Howling Commandos, the Invaders, Department H, and the X-Men in early 1945. Unfortunately, most of Hydra High Command escaped, taking their research (as well as the mental essence of Farouk, A.K.A. The Shadow King, inside of their subconscious minds) with them to later use for the Sentinel program.

>>94426198
Camp Mastermold, continued:

The Mutant refugees were given to the X-Men to take somewhere safe, as there was clearly nowhere for them in Europe, and they were reported as all dead by Nick Fury as the Howling Commandos levelled what was left of the camp and destroyed any and all research left behind by Hydra. Among the refugees are young mutants named Avalanche, Pyro, Toad, Mastermind, The Blob, Sabretooth, and Mystique.

The ensuing chase of Hydra High Command by The Invaders resulted in Bucky being taken by/merged with The Red Skull and Amahl Farouk, and Captain America falling into the Atlantic Ocean to be frozen for several decades. The Human Torch program was shelved and Jim Hammond was decommissioned upon his return home, as the shame and grief of failing his partners had begun to circumvent his programming and drive him insane. The trauma of what had been done to him meant that Logan would not be able to leave the Institute for nearly two decades after returning home, and it took longer than that for Hank, Charles, and the rest of his chosen family to help him recover, physically and mentally.

>>94426207
A slight errata that just occurred to me: I want the Sentinels to be based off of Hammond, so he is never going home, sadly.

Are the Ghost Rider ideas all coming from the same person, or does he really still have that many fans? Either way, I love them! Keep them coming!

>>94406470
You're still here posting cool stuff, and it warms my heart. I have legitimately loved all of your ideas.

>>94425697
>>94425776
Shit, I was reading over what I had posted, and I omitted something important between these two posts as I was copy/pasting.

1912 - Namor and Hercules visit the Xavier Institute, asking for help in their quests. They bring with them strange technology from the old world as both payment and because they feel that it should be kept in safe hands. As it turns out, it is High Evolutionary technology, and it is a foreboding omen of what is to come in the following century.

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I am old, very old. I am bound to this realm by means I can't recall. My ability to interact with the world around me is limited, only through those who have 'the spark' within them. Most times I float throughout this town, coasting off the primal energy it holds deep below. The nexus of energy whispers to me from time to time, but never anything I can interpret. One day I was flying through the forest path to the old mill when I saw a distraught young woman surrounded by cutthroats. I began to look for a way to help as a man stepped from behind a tree. He barked for the 'hooligans' he called them, to leave the poor girl alone or fight someone their own weight. I was intrigued what such an older man could do as his hands flew in circles and he spoke an incantation. I was amazed to see an olden user of the arts in front of me, as a sigil formed the young men ran away. One stayed a moment longer to call the man out, claiming revenge will be his. The Old Man helped the girl up and said it was nothing more than an old trick he picked up. He told her to get on home now, her parents are probably worried sick. This was fascinating, what an old user was doing in a run down place such as this was quite the mystery. I had to follow him, and so I did.

>>94426582
He went to the local bakery, the flower shop and the jeweler. I followed him every step of the way, I was curious what a practitioner of magic had use for these things. As simple a sigil that was earlier his form was remarkable. I would bet he could conjure his own things with a little more practice Why did this old man live in this town? He turned down for what I assumed his last stop, the old butcher shop at the end of town. He turned down the old road that leads there as I spot a hooded individual following him, at a quickened pace as well. The hooded character gained distance on my new friend as he called him out. My friend turned around and squinted before naming the young man, and to 'take off the hood son, there's no need.'. Revealing the cutthroat thief from earlier, I just knew his revenge plot was wasted, my friend was too tough a guy. My Friend began to create another sigil, ready to advance if the thief took even another step. The thief drew a knife as he called out my friends magic a lie. 'I'm not afraid of no hocus pocus, not this time' I believe were the words. Could his magic not reach greater heights than this? He had such potential within him, he could be the greatest of all time. But the sigil began to fade as the thief plunged the knife deep into my friends side. I had to act, I attempted to cast a spell, using my friend as a conduit for my energy. The light was blinding, my power felt so much stronger using this mortal. My friend has the spark, more than any other mortal I've met.

>>94426591
With a flash it was over, the thief ran away at top speed as I separated from my host. I heard a faint whisper, I turned to see the man I helped greet me with a grin. He explained he felt that someone was following him today, and he was happy it was something friendly. It even saved him here at the end. Light began to fade from his eyes as his wound grew worse. More blood was escaping from his side as a pool began to form around him. I never merged with someone twice, it could kill him, I tried to pick him up in desperation as a warmth washed over me. The magic left in his body gave me temporary form. I was able to hold my friend in my arms. I asked what his name was, so I could remember this moment forever. He weakly told me and asked if I knew anything that could help, he'd be ready to pay any price. With a chuckle he said he couldn't leave his wife a widow. The nexus whispered to me, as I realized what to do. I held him tightly as we began to merge for the final time and I spoke...

"Fate smiles upon you, Kent Nelson"

>>94426603
>>94426591
>>94426582
Gorgeous. I only wish I knew more about Doctor Fate to begin with, as I feel this would have more punch for me, but it is lovely storytelling either way. Any thoughts on how he would interact with other magic-using characters? Are any familiar faces in this different setting?

>>94373369
>He traveled on the same motorcycle, became the same medical practitioner, and led the same revolution.
I can already see Linkara complaining about this being lazy

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>>94355925
>Sentry

>>94426651
He'd grow to be the Dr. Fate we all know and love. He eventually even stumbles across a helmet to help keep his bond with his host.
Deadman would understand Nabu completely.

I'd imagine Felix Faust causing havoc trying to siphon the Nexus.

Klarion the Witch Boy would try to steal Kent's body seeing as it's a conduit of power.

Also: Constantine would happen across the nexus. I don't know how, but he'd write his name on it.

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>''History stopped in 1936'' - George Orwell

On the 17th of July, 1936, political tensions in Spain reached breaking point, plunging the nation into Civil War between the roughly divided forces of Left and Right.

Oliver Queen, the American heir to Queen Industries, against all expectations, leaves for Spain to fight with the International Brigades. the young man had, through his reading and encounters with various political thinkers his parents disproved of, devoted himself to the ideal of Socalsism. Presenting the possibility both a new nation founded on these principles and bringing an end to the horrors of Fascism, Spain is the battlefield Oliver sees will decide the future.

Joining with the Communist batallions, Ollie soon finds himself in Madrid, the 'Grave of Facism' as the slogans sung. To him it seems a dream realised, people of all classes coming together to fight for a better world. And the fighting comes soon, ambushed on one of his first Patrols, Ollie find himself with just the luck for the Tsarist era guns provided to jam. Out of options and time, he finds a seemingly abandoned bow among the rubble of the city, and quickly fashions a grenade arrow to blow the enemy away. Turing the tide with his ingenuity, Ollie is quickly exalted and propagandised as the Green Arrow, Hero of the Revolution!

His status as a hero brings him many enemies on the battlefield, such as the Monarchist Sniper with a preference for the highest vantage point 'Count Vertigo', 'Clock King', maker of perfectly timed bombs and most dangerous of all the German marksman Meryln. These conflicts are quickly propagandised to represent the war as a whole, the noble underdog winning out against the technologically and physically superior foe. While at first delighting in this, Ollie soon turns discovers inconsistencies abound.

His presence declared in battles he never witnessed, men he knew to be more dedicated to the cause than he declared traitors and quoted on what he never said.

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>>94426951
Soon, he even finds he is no longer the Hero of the Revolution, instead the ''Hero of the Republic!'', alongside disturbing reports of battles between leftist forces in Barcelona and the subsequent urges of many divergent political groups are whispered in hushed tones around the city

As more blood is spilled and more trust is lost, Ollie must question whether the greatest enemy to his ideals lies on enemy lines, or behind his own.

>>94426947
I love everything about that. It reminds me of the late 1980's "Adult Readers" line of DC comics that I fell in love with in my youth.

>I don't know how, but he'd write his name on it.

Johnny's a nasty git. He'd probably piss on it.

>>94427017
I love me some historical political intrigue. Please give me more of his villains in your style!

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>>94377552
How about reversing the worn-out "stuck in the MMO" trope? Sburb has a nefarious purpose, using players as a botnet while they're engaged in playing. Rose Lalonde is a high-ranking Sburb player, someone who has started breaking the game finding edge-cases. Normally she'd be in a somulent or fugue state, a "dream self" while playing the game, but after some crucial hackery, she's found she can't log off, so she decides she has to break the game even harder or "win" it to get to a game-over. Meanwhile, her "waking self" actually is up and about, With An Agenda Of Her Own And Slightly Confused About Human Culture. A cadre of twelve AIs from an earlier iteration have escaped containment and hijacked four (or eight) players in an attempt to stop Sburb from the outside. Rose as her dream-self can't log out, Kanaya in Rose's waking self can't log in.

>>94425572
>~3,400 B.C.
>named Madelyne

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>>94427507
She probably adopts that name when revived, given the setting. She is supposed to be Madelyne Pryor, hence The Phoenix. I wanted Jean/Madelyne to be villains at their core, the same daughter of Apocalypse in two different incarnations. It wouldn't be X-Men without convoluted timelines, right? Thanks for the input, I'm changing it so that she hasn't remembered her past yet when Apocalypse revives her in 1919, and that he lets Sinister name her.

>>94427199

>Red Dart
Appearing almost out of the blue from a distant Front, at first it seems Green Arrow has found a valuable ally in his battles and the two forma a strong friendship. However, when introduced to a prominent Soviet military adviser, the Red Dart uses his signature weapons to deliver a deadly dose of poison. This assassination reveals him as an Anarchist Saboteur, determined to wipe out what they see as the malignant influence of the USSR on the war and their continued attempts to subdue the revolution. This incident is the first where Ollie is forces to confront the fact that the only thing really holding the Left together is a hatred of the Right.

>Komodo
Despite the difference in upbringing, Oliver Queen and Simon Lacroix found themselves in the same regiment. The two hit it off well, with Simon being present at the same ambush which resulted in the birth of the Green Arrow. As Ollie rose up the ranks, Simon couldnt help but think he deserved it more. The combination of bitterness and growing disillusionment in the possibility of victory proves to be a deadly cocktail, as Simon's own knack for survival leads to him becoming a Spy for Franco, with his sights set on bringing down the Green Arrow.

>Deathstroke
As the Spainish war escalates, Businessmen around the world begin to fear the possibility of their overseas investments falling into the hands of staunch anti capitalists. The more unscrupulous among them desire a more concrete securing of their resources currently behind enemy lines beyond Franco's promises. Slade Wilson's name soon found itself on their lips. Despite losing an eye in the later parts of the First World War, Slade became to be one of the best at the new way war was fought. His successes deep into enemy territory as a mercenary in conflicts such as the Russian Civil War ensured his reputation. After various assignments in Spain, Deathstroke has a new mission, strike into the heart of Madrid, and bring Oliver Queen home.

>>94427624
Scrumptious. World War I and the state of Europe after WWI needs more representation in modern revisionist historical fiction. It can't all be about World War II and the Holocaust. That was why I loved the Wonder Woman movie so much, it felt like something new instead of the same old tired retreading of the same story for the hundredth time.

As usual, Deathstroke sounds like a wet dream. Why is Slade such a sexpot of a silver daddy?

>>94426726
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?

>>94426436
>You're still here posting cool stuff,
Thanks a ton anon! And I've got to say, I loved all the X-Timeline stuff. Tons of detail and world-building! Any further plans about it?

>>94426951
>>94427017
>>94427624
Can't say I'm a big Green "Hefty Leftie" Arrow fan, but I'd read the hell out of this.

>>94427774
I'm glad you're still around, and also that you're enjoying my ramblings!

I'm actually still working on it on-and-off between bouts of housework and other adult duties. I actually do really intend to write this all out in story format soon, and I'm going to incorporate some elements from a fanfiction I wrote more than a decade ago to put my own OC's into it for the just-pre-to-post-1980's era.

A recent addition was the exact location of the Xavier Institute, on a private island named Genosha in the Beaufort Sea off of the Northwest Territory coastline. I also added that Scott and Alex survived a shipwreck from their father's smuggling ship called the Corsair, and that the X-Men fished them out of the drink in 1902.

>>94358819

This was creative anon

>>94427774
>>94427975
Oh, and also this tidbit...
>Multiverse Designation: Earth-4242626
(If you use a touch-tone phone, that is "Earth-4Chan/co/")

>>94427975
I'd certainly read it, if you where to post it somewhere. I wanna turn something into a full fledged story myself, but I can't decide.

Pirate Strange is the most different of the three, and it can be whimshical, scary and grand at the same time. Plus, Strange has a big enough supporting cast and rogues gallery for me to reinvent. Problem is, it's a big departure from the books, and it just doesn't "feel" right. I mean, can you imagine 50 YO Stephen having a passionate hate-fuck with a gender-bended Doctor Voodoo?

DOOM is the one I mostly want to write, but I'm one of the folks who dislike the 616 origin, so I'd change it. But by doing so, I'd feel as if I was betraying the source and writting an imitation. I mostly want to write something in the vein of HBO's Rome, but in a modern setting, and Doom's the closest to it. I just dislike the gypsy origin.

DEUS VULT Black Knight I wrote as an afterthought, and past the premise I don't have much.

Most probably I'll just mix my Strange & Doom ideas and name it "Sorcerers" or something. It's just gonna be sitting in a folder somewhere anyway.

>>94426009
>the children of Magnus and Bova, who dies in childbirth.
Is she still a talking cow?

A talking cow-shaped Beast Mutant that Magneto married out of true love~

>>94427569
Since Phoenix is heavily connected to Apocalypse in your project, making the original "Jean" Egyptian or (considering the origins of the name "Madelyne") Hebrew would work well, just make sure that the fictional timeline at least somewhat makes sense with real timeline.

>>94370801
Pym is Paul Bunyan

>>94428231
That's the idea, baby!~ You're actually spot-on. Her death devastates him, as it is the first time he has allowed himself a real family connection since losing his family in Auschwitz. In this setting, he is not a crazy, abusive lunatic of a terrorist who kills hundreds, just a troubled man trying his best to find himself and save his own soul. He treats his children well, and is well-liked by those who know him beyond his public persona.

>>94428184
I personally think that you should do all of them, simultaneously, as your own Marvel Universe.

>can you imagine 50 YO Stephen having a passionate hate-fuck with a gender-bended Doctor Voodoo?

I'm gayer than Christmas and that idea is still hot to me.

>DEUS VULT Black Knight I wrote as an afterthought, and past the premise I don't have much.

Incorporate him into the others as a supporting character.
Here's how I used Dane in my setting: It isn't mentioned there but briefly, but in my setting, he's an immortal Inhuman and the actual Black Knight of olde wielding a weapon designed to kill Mutants and specifically Apocalypse.

>I just dislike the gypsy origin.

It doesn't necessarily have to be there at all. Europe is full of strange little countries and territories bordered by multiple countries with a questionable ethnicity all their own. I frankly always assumed Latveria to be one such place.

>>94428435
Thank-you for the advice there. I actually did in fact intend for her to be Egyptian, and that Jean, who is born in London some time later is also Egyptian of Akkaba descent (and the daughter of Sinister and an unnamed archeologist, who are both a later incarnation of Apocalypse himself/a descendant, given the way Apocalyptians work in this setting).

>>94428607
>I personally think that you should do all of them, simultaneously, as your own Marvel Universe.
A tad too much work.

>I'm gayer than Christmas and that idea is still hot to me.
Dunno, I always saw Stephen as a really reserved wise old man, so to have him go around fucking just... it's like imagining my uncle fucking 20 YOs. It's just... kinda unsettling...

>Incorporate him into the others as a supporting character.
That's what I figured. If I pushed through with Doctor Strange I'd make him a supporting member (and assemble a quasi-Defenders team with 4 other members or so). If I went through with Doom, he'd be Doom's right-hand, with Dreadknight as the local freedom-fighter.

>in my setting, he's an immortal Inhuman and the actual Black Knight of olde wielding a weapon designed to kill Mutants and specifically Apocalypse.

Huh, that's pretty darn interesting. I wrote a piece where Doom would be Lord Imperial of the Hellfire Club, then revealed to be an Inhuman and afterwards go on to conquer Attilan.

>It doesn't necessarily have to be there at all.
I know that, but dunno, I'm afraid Tumblr will fuck me sideways if I ever put it out there.

>Europe is full of strange little countries and territories bordered by multiple countries with a questionable ethnicity all their own.
Like I said a few posts back, I'm actually from Greece, so he's the one character I can really write.

>I frankly always assumed Latveria to be one such place.
The reason why I never liked it, is because it portrays the natives as evil, and pushes what is essentially a tresspasser as the "de facto" hero. It'd be like having a white guy crashland in Wakanda, live in the fringes of society, then kill T'Challa, become Black Panther and uplift Wakanda from the dirt that the "damn savages" had it in. It's a problematic origin.

And also, Doom's one of the few European characters. Making him a gypsy is like having a single African character, but he's actually a white colonialist.

>>94428819
>I know that, but dunno, I'm afraid Tumblr will fuck me sideways if I ever put it out there.

Don't make my mistake. I had an art/stories and D&D blog for my OC setting back in the day, and I asked a question about gender fluidity, innocently seeking clarification on an issue so that I could handle it respectfully in my work, and I let them chase me away and even closed my blog. I wasn't trying to offend, but apparently I should have trusted the google results of porn pages rather than asking a community in the know. Stand firm, and say that it's your head canon. They seem pretty obsessed with HC over there.

>Dr. Doom's Ethnicity

You can have every flavor of Doom since you're doing something Multiversal. Maybe have your own "Prime" reality, where it's your way, but mention the 616 version.

>Stephen the bawdy uncle

He was always a tad bit of a womanizer back in the day as I recall, but I may be mis-remembering. You'd think I could recall more; there's a picture of me floating around dressed as him in fourth grade for Hallowe'en. Sex doesn't have a place in every narrative, so handle it however you feel is right. /tg/ bitches about magical realm, but the most fun D&D I ever played was nothing but. It isn't for everyone. Offhand mentions and implications can be far-more-subtle than full splash pages of people fucking in piles.

>Like I said a few posts back, I'm actually from Greece, so he's the one character I can really write.

I must have missed that tidbit. What's Greece like? I live in Michigan near Detroit, and I've always wanted to go there.

>>94429204
>Don't make my mistake.
Wew, that's pretty darn bad. Hell, I've seen white SJWs berrate black folks on black issues over at Tumblr, so what the hell can you do? It has its graces (mostly fan-art and a couple of good blogs), but it is a toxic environment.

>You can have every flavor of Doom since you're doing something Multiversal.
That's what I figured, yeah. Mostly because I have ideas for a Doom who's actually the reincarnation of Loki, a Doom who replaces Alladin, stuff like that. I guess that's a valid enough cop-out.

>He was always a tad bit of a womanizer back in the day as I recall, but I may be mis-remembering.
In some retcons, yeah. But the "original" Stephen was a money-obsessed functioning alcoholic. I've modeled my "Pirate" Stephen (he's not actually a pirate, as it's set in the present day, but he has pirate ancestors and after his "transformation" turns into a quasi-mystical "pirate" as he "sails" the universe for alien magic-it's more thematic than literal) after PotC, Monkey Island & Black Sails, so he's a bit too different and kinda makes me uneasy. Like I'm "betraying" the character. But then again, that's the fun of headcanons, right?

>I must have missed that tidbit. What's Greece like?
Oh, I wrote that in meme-speak (PAY DENBTS LAND). Landscape wise, it varies. The islands are beautiful, we have some nice beaches and forests. The villages are typical Eastern European ones. Generally everything's in the crapper, Skopja is claiming Macedonia, Albania is claiming Thessaloniki and Turkey is claiming the islands, but eh, what can you do?

>>94429339
>Greece

It always looks so beautiful, and having been to Germany as an American, it is amazing to see buildings older than your country's entire history (post-Natives, of course). Maybe some day I'll make it there.

>Tumblr

I agree with you whole-heartedly, but now that I think about it, we should probably stop that line of discussion before it derails and destroys this beautiful thread. We both know where we are.

>Doctor Strange

Even if it's radically-different, what's the point of recording a cover song if you don't change it up a bit? I love your idea and think it would be a great read.

>Doom

Tell me more about the Aladdin Doom, if you would, please. I love Arabian folklore and mysticism.

I can hear the song now:
Prince Victor, not a dictator, Victor Von DOOOOOOOM
Strong as ten stretchy Richardses, mystically!
He faced the Celestial Hordes,
A thousand agents of S.W.O.R.D.,
Who sent them back to their lords?
Prince Victor Doom!

>>94428607
>I frankly always assumed Latveria to be one such place.
Like with DC's Vlatava, I always imagined Latveria to just be a piece of IRL Latvia rather than Transylvania #2.

Baltic Countries are pretty much unknown in the western media outside of the Teutonic Order and deserve some exposure, I think.

>>94428607
>That's the idea, baby!~ You're actually spot-on.
You know, this would also give some actual reasons for all those religious villains to hate the mutants. It's one thing when mutants are all beautiful angels with powers (that you could explain as a "gift from God"), and it's another think when they turn into bestial humanoids that still want to be treated as people, challenging the concepts of bestiality (if only by the looks, if not in truth) and the taboos related to it.

Suddenly, mutants are not just performing godlike miracles, but "teaching our children to mate with beasts and monsters".

>>94429674
>Maybe some day I'll make it there.
If it exists until then. Just avoid the big cities and go to the archeological cites, islands and whatnot. They're the only things worth a damn.

>Even if it's radically-different, what's the point of recording a cover song if you don't change it up a bit? I love your idea and think it would be a great read.
I guess so. That's the beauty of intepretations and all. It feels kinda weird at first, but I'll get the hang of it.

>Tell me more about the Aladdin Doom, if you would, please. I love Arabian folklore and mysticism.
I've got nothing past "Doom replaces Alladin" at the moment. I need to reasearch some stuff first, to make sure I have a good handle on it. One thing I'm torn is whether to make Doom serious or hammy. Deep down I want to write him like Iznogood. "Doom wants to to be the Sultan in the place of the Sultan". But that'd make him really not fit with the rest of the council and ruin the whole thing. Dunno.

All cards on thetable, I got the idea from that one Doom from Fraction's run who had a golden mask, scymtars and that cool Arabian headscarf around his head.

"Multiversal Doom" just allows for tons of designs and settings, which is why I'm partial to the idea. Templar Doom, Egyptian Doom, Roman Doom, Japanese Doom, Cowboy Doom, Native American Doom, even Nazi Doom. It's a tired trope, but one with lots of posibilities. One story can be Doom in "The Man in the High Castle" and the other could be Doom in "Grimm Fairy Tales".

>>94429820
>On Magnus x Bova
DINGDINGDING! That is exactly what I'm going for! You win again! That was exactly what I liked about Beak as a character.

There were two background characters in the X-Men cartoon from the 1990's that I really loved, this fuzzy little shopkeep and his 2-D Waifu lady, and they were usually used to make that point as well in the few times they appeared subtly in the background. I actually really want to use them as well, but I'm having trouble finding information on them.

>>94429936
>It's a tired trope, but one with lots of posibilities.

Tropes aren't always a bad thing. I love this idea so much, and I'm sure other people would look past it being a "trope" as well. Billionaire playboy philanthropist Doom, Captain DOOMerica, a team of Avengers that are all Doombots led by the current Iron Doom Man, the possibilities are limitless!

>>94430425
>Tropes aren't always a bad thing. I love this idea so much, and I'm sure other people would look past it being a "trope" as well.
Thanks for the kind words anon! It's a neat little concept that would allow for "breaks" from the main story. Getting stuck between arcs for main Doom? Stick a two-parter in there about Noble Englishman Doom as he hunts down Jack the Ripper and fights Occultists in London.

>>94430425
I also wanted to ask, how would you explain the co-existence characters that mutated rather than were "born" mutants? You mentioned Red Skull and Hydra trying to capture mutants and "become" them, but would the raionale for stuff like Captain America be the same?

For all the prejudice the mutants would face in the world, I'd expect scientists and governments to try and replicate the mutations and make them controllable before going all Sentinel on the superpowered beings.

>>94426507
Some cool additions:

1951 - The twins Wanda and Pietro Maximoff are born in Latveria, the children of Magnus and a Hybrid Apocalyptian-Beast Mutant named Bova, who dies in childbirth. The twins are both Hybrid Mutants of a unique mix, both ethnically and by Mutations. Pietro can be anywhere by simply telling a previous or later self to meet his current self there. Wanda can predict the future by telling her past self what will happen, and therefor can change the future as well. One of her first predictions is of a terrible event, the turning of the Millenium and a day with "no more mutants."
Bova's death devastates Magnus, as it is the first time he has allowed himself a real family connection since losing his family in Auschwitz. In this setting, he is not a crazy, abusive lunatic of a terrorist who kills hundreds, just a troubled man trying his best to find himself and save his own soul while helping his people endure. He treats his children well and loves them with all of his heart, and is well-liked by those who know him beyond his public persona of Mutant rights crusader.

1952-1964 - The United Nations rails against the actions of a grief-driven Magnus, who has begun targeting weapons manufacturers and destroying them, whilst also arming the small groups of Mutants and "other undesirables" who evaded the Nazis that he is finding hidden and struggling to survive all across Europe. His Brotherhood has become more than just one of Mutants, and the United Nations are afraid of a third World War. Despite all of this, Magnus strives to keep casualties as close to zero as humanly-possible. He will not become another monster, he swears to his people.

>>94430912
More new stuff:

1963 - Operating out of an old Henry Ford plant in Detroit, Michigan, Bolivar Trask (a member of Hydra High Command and a brilliant engineer), unveils the new Sentinel Program under the endorsement and approval of the United States Government and the United Nations. They go into immediate production, with plans to offer countries willing to pay the half-a-billion-dollar price tag their own Sentinel to command in order to protect themselves from the "Mutant Menace."

>>94430547
God damn, you are on fire!

>>94430900
Fun stuff there. I was just posting additions, including the Sentinels. On people becoming Mutants, that only happens occasionally. Captain America is one such experiment, as is the Incredible Hulk. This is a Marvel where everything is either Mutant or Inhuman in nature, tying everything together in a neat, Cosmic-friendly package.

>>94430963
>God damn, you are on fire!
Thanks a ton anon, likewise!

I've also been toying with some antagonists and supporting cast members (could be applied to either story, we'll see) and I've gotten fixated on Adam Warlock being a Multiversal Jesus. Not metaphorically, literally. What if "Jesus" was sent to every planet with intelligent life? Each one looking like them being part of their culture and whatnot,etc, etc. Now, what if all of those "Jesus"es were part of a "collective"? What if that collective was spread across the Multiverse and when it came togetherit formed "Adam Warlock"? I'm struggling with the Magus, but I find this idea nifty. I got it from Mel Gibson saying that Passion 2 would be about Alien Jesus or something.

>>94430963
>This is a Marvel where everything is either Mutant or Inhuman in nature, tying everything together in a neat, Cosmic-friendly package.
Exactly. I think it's the best concept for Marvel.

I personally suggested something similar in another thread, but it also included Avengers as a team of technology-based human heroes originally created to combat mutant villains and give hope to normal people that they can too fight against the superpowered ones.

>>94430912
>>94430963
Since you are getting closer and closer to the time of the first space explorations, would you include the Fantastic Four in this verse?

>>94431277
>Adam Warlock being a Multiversal Jesus

Love it, love everything about it.

>I'm struggling with the Magus, but I find this idea nifty.

Space Anti-Christ. BOOM.

>>94431354
>Avengers as a team of technology-based human heroes

I haven't posted anything relating to it just yet, but I'm aiming for trans-humanist industrialist Tony Stark leading a team of people trying to be more than HUMAN but still HUMAN, until Captain America gets thawed out and is appalled at the idea of what he calls "The new, U.S. Government-endorsed S.S." and has to clean things up a bit. Leading straight into Civil War.

>>94431406
>would you include the Fantastic Four in this verse?

Oh, I absolutely intend to, keeping them a 1960's period-piece in direct competition to the Soviet Space Program, but not at all associated with N.A.S.A. Rogue billionaire Richard Brand-styled arrogant space explorers with a chip on their shoulders and super-powers, and the only New York-based super team in this canon. They become the Future Foundation rather than the Fantastic Four, and wear those bitchin' white suits. They also take advantage of young fanboy Peter Parker The Spider-Man when he tries to join.

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>Post in a thread like this
Thread dies at 12 or something posts
>Don't post in thread
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>>94432327
Post quickly!

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>>94431930
More on the Future Foundation:

Ben Grimm, The Thing:
Ben Grimm is a WWII veteran who served as a Howling Commando during the war, and as a S.H.I.E.L.D. operative in Berlin directly under Colonel Nick "Tear Down This Wall" Fury. He was injured in the line of duty, losing an eye, an ear, a hand, and a good amount of teeth to an explosive device aimed at Fury. "Thing" is an old nickname that sticks and takes on new, cruel meaning in Berlin, and one he is still trying to escape from post-transformation.

Reed Richards, Mister Fantastic:
Reed is a disgraced N.A.S.A. scientist with an ax to grind and an inherited-then-expanded-via-genius fortune burning a hole in his pocket. He works for Mister Storm at the Baxter Building beside his boss's daughter, Susan Storm, whom Reed wants to make a housewife out of one day.

Susan Storm, Blindside:
Susan is a woman scientist in the 1960's who happens to be smarter than most of the men who think it's "cute" that she wants to play, too. Including Reed. She likes him well-enough as a coworker, but actually thinks he's just as pig-headed as the other men she works with at the Baxter Building. All of that changes when he asks her to come with him on an illegal and dashing adventure out of Earth's atmosphere.

Johnny Storm, the Human Torch:
Johnny is the Lindsay Lohan of the Storm family, and also a washed-up-at-23 actor who wishes he was half as charismatic or handsome as his idol, James Dean. He's an arrogant, air-headed lunatic with a mean streak, but he'd kill for his sister. He was dishonorably discharged from the Air Force, because he liked flying the planes in dangerous ways and as device-free as possible. He's a whiz of a pilot, but don't make his head any bigger by telling him that. Which is exactly how Reed manipulates him into helping pilot his illegal aircraft.

Victor Von Doom:
Lord of Latveria, visiting the U.N. headquarters in New York, who becomes curious about the Baxter Building and pops in to look

>>94432327
Well join us then, friendo! The more, the merrier! Just don't kill us or the thread, please.

>>94432381
Oh, and in this canon, the FF are all Inhumans. Which is fortunate for them, as the Terrigen Cloud their ship nearly disintegrates inside of while trying to reach escape velocity would have ended their story rather than taking it somewhere... fantastic.

>>94432381
So Reed is the type that makes quick money and that loses it all even quickly?

>>94432514
Also, Ben Grimm is the personal bodyguard and head of their security staff for Susan and Johnny Storm, and has been a family friend since before they were born. He is the oldest friend their family has, going all the way back to their father's childhood, where the super-jock football hero protected the nerdy-shrimpy-Stormy. He, and Susan and Johnny's family, are all New York-Native Jewish folks. Reed is a loud, annoying atheist, which is pretty avant-garde for the 1960's.

>>94432598
Exactly! Until he and his team become the first people to escape Earth's atmosphere, and to fly to the moon. The FF starts between 1960 and 1961, and Reed is using stolen High Evolutionary technology to replicate Apocalypse's Cairo Ship's capabilities that everyone saw in 1936. When he is successful against all odds and predictions, he becomes a billionaire overnight after his return from Attilan, which is another huge discovery that Reed is to arrogant and headstrong to handle properly.

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>>94432713
Your Reed sounds more and more like he ages to be a superhuman Big Bob Pataki in the future, becoming successful, but alienating his friends and restricting his wife's own progress as a scientist.

>>94432926
That is exactly who he is. He ultimately becomes Maker Reed. Hank Pym is his direct nemesis, who is a bit different in this as well...

Hank Pym, Avenging Agent Codenamed Yellowjacket:
Hank is a super-scientist/S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent/American Super-Spy who lost a wife to a car bomb in the fifties and went a little bonkers and a lot alcoholic. He married a hot actress he spilled a cocktail on at a military party not six months later, while everyone told him to take some time off and grieve, and she basically got dollar-sign eyes the moment he started apologizing. Mildly-autistic, his interests took him to hyper-focus on robotics, especially those based around a new element discovered in relation to alien technology that was turning up more and more. Jan spent more and more of his money, and drove him nuttier and nuttier, angling for a high-profile divorce to get her some sympathy roles and a quick buck. She even took sadistic joy in telling him about her frequent trysts with his boss, famous trans-humanist industrialist and official technology expert for and Avenging Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., Tony Stark. Stark demanded more and more of Pym, until the final straw: Ultron, an A.I. modeled after the original Jim Hammond Human Torch prototypes. Hank snapped after Jan beat him mercilessly with a telephone one evening, daring him to hit her back, which he would not. He disappeared for a while after that night, watching news of the "Ultron Embarrassment" from dive bars all across the Eastern seaboard.

>>94380420
came for the discussion stayed for the smut

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>>94432926
>>94433355
>Criminy, Susan! It's a free country, but that doesn't mean you are free to give that fruity knife-eared Nambo guy my fuzzy slippers every time he comes to our house! And where the heck is my wallet?