X-Men Gold

So, does this spoil Secret Empire?

>>94349484
Why the fuck didn't they just ask The Hand to resurrect him? The Hand were the ones who gave them the body in the first place.

>>94349532
>I am the worst friend ever
Yes, yes you are. You were on Earth for a long time after you got out of the Space Bullet. You have no excuse.

>>94349522
Stevie Hunter became a Congresswoman?

But she's a dance instructor

>>94349595
Stranger things have happened.

>>94349615
I guess now all they can do is bring this to the Supreme Court. Surely this is unconsitutional.

>>94349499
>>94349504
Kitty... wtf

>>94349569
Oh, they're going to kill Colossus again.

>>94349595
A Drama Teacher became prime minister in leaf land

>>94349521
Well, it happens after secret empire, so kinda.

>>94349624
>And all of Russia will quake at the return of Omega Red
Was Omega Red really THAT much of a threat?

Jesus Christ. When did X-Men became a cross between C-SPAN and one of those stupid MTV date shows?

>>94349853
He's a notch above Sabertooth.

>>94349579
I was thinking a few pages back, "boy, this looks like Iron Man 2 Whiplash..." and here we are.

>>94349473
Thank you, OP.

>>94349521
not really.

>>94349954
Anon, the Iron Man 2 version of Whiplash has been in comics since 2010. Don't get why he has anime hair though.

>>94349499
>>94349504
Why did they break up? I really don't remember.

>>94350048
Really? This is the first time I've seen him.

>>94350087
She was mad that he was always putting himself in front of danger to protect everyone since he's damn near unkillable. This was while he was Juggernaut, I believe.

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>>94349499
>>94349504
haha, remember that time Colossus and Domino were together. haha, that sure was a stupid development, I'm glad that Kitty and Pete are getting back together haha

>>94349522
Stevie Hunter, fuck yes!

>>94350113
Seems a little bit shallow. I mean, we had to wait fucking 30 years till Kitty was old enough to be with Pyotr, and when it happens she breaks with him because of this and then goes fuck Ice Man and Star-Lord?

Man, why do I even care?

>>94350170
Yeah, it was pretty Hopeless.

>>94349557
The first thing that Brian did was to cuck Meggan with an AU Saturnyne disguised as Courtney, that's not exactly what I would call "not messing anything up".

>>94349610
>has there ever been a moment where what you wanted was not right by me
Remember her when you cucked her with Zsaji?
Remember when you left her and the X-Men for Magneto and his team of child killer acolytes?
Remember when you tried to get her back by killing her boyfriend?

>>94349499
Remember how you got three kids murdered while you were in charge? Why not flirt with Pete, seems like the perfect time.
We didn't even get a funeral scene for fuck's sake.
Or, you know, a police being involved in any kind of way.

>>94350379
Let's not forget Meggan almost cucking him with Kurt. Drama, drama, drama

>>94349569
THREE KIDS ARE DEAD AND IT'S YOUR FAULT.

>>94349624

What a stunning last-page reveal. I had no idea this was coming!

What Hope are after these days?
Hellion and team?
X-force?
Hell, Gambit?

>>94349484
>translated from Russian
God damn I hate when they feel the need to say this.

>>94349868
Like a long, long time ago?

>>94350405
>>94350431
Honestly I don't even care

When Wolverine was in charge none of the kids died because he wasn't allowed to be wrong about Schism.
Even though he didn't actually do anything to make the kids safer, the school was infested by bamf demons and was constantly getting attacked and infiltrated and little shits like Quentin and Oya still went out to fight bad guys trying to kill them, fucking flaming toilets and giving kids jetpacks without training

So there's actual stakes again instead of crazy cartoon hijinks

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>>94349504
>it´s another X-bastich gets again another lover

Jesus, sex with a X-Girl must feel like throwing a salami in to a hall.

>>94349853
In the cartoon.
Honestly, I'd rather have them bring back Soul Skinner, that was Omega Red if he was a green telepath.

>>94350194
>>94350113
It was about how he became Juggernautt and swore service to a demon god and almost got himself killed against an avatar of Asgardian diety.

>>94350601
>Gambit?
He was in the book a couple of arcs ago.

>>94349610
>Has there ever been a moment where what you wanted was not "right" with me?
This has to be a joke right? This whole story was crafted on the grounds that he /wasn't/ right with her decision of staying both as just friends

Seriously, Colossus is a walking red flag right now, how the hell Gug doesn't realize that?

>>94351347
People want a new Colossus. He is the heavy hitter of the X-Men, yet, Hulk would bitchslap him into the grave. If his powers come back, he will might get a power up.

This feels a little like they dont care too much about having 2 students killed last week, one being a girl who arrived a few weeks ago from Barcelona thinking she would be safer at the mansion, and also, Eyeboy was mutilated

>>94349641
I wonder if the next issue of Gen X will be about the trauma of Eyeboy post mutilation

>>94351464

didnt Lemire give him a power up in that bad Apocalypse war arc? they could have permanently Archangeled him.

>>94349484
"Magik"

Intentional misspelling?

>>94351501
I don't even remember what Horseman powers he had

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>>94351501
Yeah, he was ble to make his steel liquid, so he could altering his body in many sized. It is not a strength power up, but it was something.

Not sure, if he had a Deathseed in him. That would make him above-hulk level. Just look, what the Deathseed did to the Sentry...

>>94351584
>>94351501

Jesus my grammar sucks. Pardon that, a Hornet just flew in to my room and I have an eye on it.

>>94349868
The late 70's.

>>94349579
DONT YOU DARE PUT MY WHIPLASH ON THIS SHIT COMIC, MARVEL! MOTHERFUCKER, I FUCKING HATE YOU SO MUCH NOW, MARVEL!

>>94349569
So what exactly will prevent her from leaving him the moment he starts getting actual responsibilities and can't spend the whole day taking care of her like a baby.

Because that's what happened with her previous fiancee.

Just when we, for once, actually need a Guardians of the Galaxy cameo...

I think they forgot how mutants sided with hydra to conquer a large protion of America and claim it as sovereign mutant nation where humans were second class citizens, two weeks prior apparently.
how come that did not result in a full blow war on mutants instead of a mere deportation law is beyond explanation

Girls should kiss girls

>>94351961
and kill male cis scum oppressors

>>94349615
Lol this is so fucking meta for the current state of Marvel.

>>94349579
This was unexpected.

>>94352093
its fun how much marvel comics hates and despises marvel cinematic universe but when they need to boost up sales they suck up it like there is no tomorrow

>>94351944
Secret Empire is going to end with a macguffen no one will remember what happened in general.

Just Emma and the mutants loyal to her got into a fight with the Blue team.

>>94349624
Huh. Wasn't Omega Red alive last time he was used?

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>>94352390
I think that might have been his clone son?

>>94349532
Wow, a well establish supporting character leveling up off screen? This is fantastic!

>>94350431
What kids? I've been giving too little a shit to keep track of X-men lately.
>>94349549
Does not one person in that room realize just how bad an idea it is to deport millions of people with superpowers that can take over the planet so that they now HATE you because you explicitly told them you don't want em?

>>94349868
>I have never read an x-men book

>>94350719
Except those stakes are undercut by this issue. Instead of having a funeral, hell, building the entire case against mutans based on those deaths we have this shit.
We have fucking romance garbage. We have Whiplash attacking at the most retarded moment. We have people being scared of mutants because lol, reasons.
It's shit and Gugg is shit.

>>94352806
Presumably they had the funerals while still trapped under the Darkforce dome in New York

>>94349610
Most of your relationship with her was her begging you to date and fuck her brains out while you were saying "No, you are a child."

>>94352766
Last couple of issues rotated around a crazy person with some tech infiltrating the mansion and going on the murder spree.
Kitty spent the entire issue hitting the guy and bouncing off instead of just putting her hand through his brain.
Result- three dead kids and Eye Boy had two eyes cut out of their sockets.
And next issue what do we get? This lovey-dovey trash.

>>94352833
Amongst themselves? That would make a good opportunity for a good writer.
Good writer would've had PARENTS of those children arrive and demand justice for those deaths. Hell, they even denied parents the opportunity to be at the funeral.
Good writer would've had a wrongful death suit filed against X-Men instead of this random deportation bullcrap.

>>94349504
No Piotr, run away.

>>94349853

I only really remember like ONE Omega Red story from way way back and get got BTFO by Psylocke pretty handily

>>94352766
Maybe if Magneto didnt become a pussy and still hickjack nuclear submarines they remember it.

>>94352913
Well that assumes that the kids hadn't been disowned by their families and that their families weren't also in New York when the Dark Force dome came up.

Also it would be kinda shitty of their families to blame the school for getting the kids killed during the whole "Hydra is taking over the country and trapping the school/city in a Dark dimension filled with demons" situation

>>94351793
Whiplash has fans?

>>94349627

"unconstitutional" is what the Supreme Court rules is unconstitutional. The WW2 internment japanese citizens was ruled by SCOTUS to be legal in 1944 by a 6-3 margin. Random sobriety checkpoints are a thing specifically ruled out by the 4th amendment but SCOTUS allowed it in 1990 (another 6-3 decision). The govt's safety concerns trump your rights.

Its not even that murky of an issue with mutants. They *are* dangerous, some potentially planet-threatening, even the liberals on the court would have a hard time ruling against this one.

>>94349853

Street-level fighter with built-in whip attacks. Has a healing factor. The only thing that elevates his threat is his ability to siphon life from nearby foes. Its a deadly ability but on the grand scale of things, he is like a suicide vest bomber who doesnt die each explosion, he ain't a magneto-level threat.

You know what, the X-Men getting deported isn't exactly the worst thing to happen to them, It's WAY BETTER than Limbo, Outer Space or some fantasy Island. Marvel has been doing their worst at keeping them as far away from the ongoing of everyone else as possible

why not let the X-Men set up shop in Europe or Asia or go back to Australia for a two or three years, they've always had a much more global presence anyways besides it's not like ICE could stop Wolverine from entering the country anyways.

>>94353593
>even the liberals on the court would have a hard time ruling against this one.
They would probably argue that you can't deport US citizens that are mutants, but foreigners like Colossus or Nightcrawler are fair game.

>>94353593
Not quite. The fact that it's only targeting one :ethnic" group gives valid merit for striking such attempts down. If anything the entire conversation should be shifting towards just how many altered humans they can deport out of the country so that it can go through without being unconstitutional.

>>94349615
>HUR, DA MUTANTS!
>deport all mutants
>suddenly, aliens attack from space!
>SOMEONE HALP US
>Sorry, can't help you, persona non grata. We can help in exchange for permanent sanctuary and yearly federal funding, plus immunity from prosecution for all members.
X-Men are fighting against this why?

>>94354111
>plus immunity from prosecution for all members.
They already have that. Despite the X-Men (especially Wolverine) committing countless crimes over the years, Cyclops and Emma Frost are the only X-Men to ever get arrested and sent to jail. Oh, and Colossus for like 5 minutes, and he turned himself in.

>>94349595
Anybody can work for the government if they're charismatic enough.

>>94353482
movie one has

>>94349610
Yeah, for example there was the time you were all dying with Brood spawns inside your bellies, and Kitty begged you to pop her cherry because you were all gonna die anyway, and you refused.

>>94349504
>>94349499
can't they just fuck already?

or is this an analogy for impotency?

>>94349724
Who was also the son of one and grew up in it and got in based mostly on dad's memory.

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I think the No New Mutants rule still applies to some degree

Belen was introduced in Blue, and killed in Gold a few weeks later
The 2 characters Bunn created in his uncanny run who had lines, unnamed telepath, and unnamed woman with acidic haze powers, were killed in one of the last issues by Xorn in an accident.

Ernst, Martha, Glob and Anole were sent to the future, spent years in the future, Anoles body changed completely, and now they are drawing him as a kid, as if that had never happened.

It is like they have to destroy every new toy they may have created when they end their runs.
Marvel wants the X Men to be running in circles, a rehash of rehashes, without anything new Fox could get to use.

pic related, bearded man and blonde woman were killed.

>>94349641
Marvel is SJW garbage, DC is better.

>>94354028

Did you miss the japanese internment ruling i just mentioned?

Look, its just spitballing because the scenario would never play out in real life so there is no way to prove the debate one way or the other. But there are historical precedents we can look at of how SCOTUS rules on situations when lawmakers start to weigh more heavily on security over liberty, and those precedents tend to come down on the side of security.

>>94354458

another thing I just remembered is characters who have already graduated like Quentin Quire still being students. Another place in which Marvel does not want progress or change.

X Men are editorially stuck.

>>94354527
Did you forget how many people lost their shit when Trump tried to use that as justification for his travel ban? Did you forget that the travel ban was ruled unconstitutional multiple times? The Japanese internment camps may not have been directly challenged but any blatant attempt to repeat any similar form of discrimination generally is not going to fly without heavy opposition

where would mutants be deported to exactly? why not arrest them

>>94352766
>Does not one person in that room realize just how bad an idea it is to deport millions of people with superpowers that can take over the planet so that they now HATE you because you explicitly told them you don't want em?
The wide, wide majority of mutants are mostly just freaks. For every Cyclops there's thousands of people who just have scales

>>94349562
>I just feel like it would be going backward for both of us.

Why do girls always give such dishonest and contrived reasons for that kinda thing?

>>94349593
How patriotic!

>>94354800
I suppose i wasn't being clear when I spoke.
>deport millions of people, some of whom have superpowers that can take over the planet.
That's just the worst case scenario.
There's still the other problem of what happens if an actually COMPETENT leader takes over all of these mutants that have no reason to offer you loyalty anymore. You got heaps of strategically useful superpowers coupled with advanced alien technology. They could absolutely cripple the US financially by offering better everything.

It's also a bit interesting that in HoM they considered mutants a strategic asset to America yet now their opinion has shifted. I'm assuming the old politicians lost their seats.

>>94354328
>>94352836
>>94351347
>>94350384
>>94349610
So... I GUESS you could say they had a very varied history as a couple, with its ups and downs, and both held the Idiot Ball at different times?

>>94354752
they're too hard to lock down without specific measure for each of their powers.

things like power inhibitors are normally tied to some gigantic machine, since the mutant number isn't in the millions anymore sending them away would be easier.

as to where do they go, I can see them rebuilding Genosha, or I can see Magneto or some other evil mutant taking half the mutants with them on Asteroid M/Utopia

I would rather see the X-Men go to a real life location personally, but Marvel is all about retreads.

>>94354752
They'd have to do that to hold them while waiting for the paperwork to properly deport them anyway so your question bears little real merit as it is not an either or thing. They'd have to do both anyway.

As to where? no clue. The nations smart enough to take em would probably be enemy nations in the first place and I hope the US in marvel isn't so stupid as to give away from Proteus tier bastard to North Korea or something.

>>94349549
>doing things that seem sensible makes you on the WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY.
This is SJW-tier stupidity.

>>94350194
>>94350113
>>94350087
There was also division between them going on Team Scott / Team Logan.

>>94350601
>What Hope are after these days?
Supporting character in "Jean Grey"
>Hell, Gambit?
Main cast in "Astonishing X-Men"

>>94354377
>or is this an analogy for impotency?
Well, he can't get hard

>>94350601
Gambit is into international terrorism. ( He exploded the Louvre when robbing it.)

>>94351944
Different mutant group. Kitty's school was in New York under the dark dome with demons and stuff.

>>94349557
>relationships in Excalibur
>didn't mess anything up
Not how I remember it.

>>94355291

I think the best thing for the X Men would be having 3 or 4 different teams from different places, like san francisco, muir island, massachusetts, madripoor etc, and have that be all x books, with no solos, except for Laura and OML because they have proved to sell well.

a claremont nostalgia team, a 90s fox xmen nostalgia team, a morrison + whedon nostalgia team, an x force strike steam, and if they are selling well, an x factor one.

>>94355409
that's what we got now, gold is the 70's 80's, Astonishing is the 90's, Weapon X is 2000's X-Force and Blue is the 60's

>>94349543
An incident that an X-Man was at fault for.

Dozens of people at least died because of Gambit and nobody cares.

>>94355457

there is no 2000s nostalgia book, perhaps because it is the most recent one, but then, morrison was 15 years ago. and Cyclops and Emma cant be used in their current state, dead and crazy villain.

>>94355051
What relationship? My post (this one >>94351347 ) was talking about something Gug himself wrote 7 issues ago.

>>94349868
new to the x-books? you are 40 years late

>>94353482
Just that guy.

>>94349549
>Kitty acting as if segregation and interment camps are things of the past

Even if this wasn't emphatically untrue, this is taking place directly after an event where Inhumans were being rounded up into camps of varying degrees of severity depending on the author

Wait a minute -- in the Marvel Universe the United States has a significant foreign-born mutant population? When did that happen? And why, when America is always depicted in the comics as one of the worst anti-mutant nations?

>>94349484
>"is to be a god is"
hhholy fuck. Page fucking 1 and the editor is out to lunch. That's it I'm writing an angry letter.

>>94357888
>missed the AS
Please ignore, missed coffee this morning and I am also a retarded v_______v

>>94357917
If you don't want to look stupid, don't use emoticons.

>Russia and deportation

House of ideas indeed.

>>94354621
Lower courts blocked it pending a case. They didn't rule it as shit.

Now the SUPREME court actually let it take effect, again pending a case that will take place after the ban has already run its course.

>>94357822
Anon, everyone knows only american scum ever show prejudice towards others. Every other country in the world is a utopian paradise where the social minorities live in peace and harmony with everyone

>>94358735
>>94357822
Actually, whenever we see other countries, it's usually just as bad or even worse for mutants. Especially third world countries. Remember, in Schism pretty much every country in the world activated their Sentinels.

>>94351473
Goes to prove the X-cutioner was right about everything he said about Kitty. If she cares more about sticking dick on her vagina than her killed fellow mutants, makes me wonder how little does she actually care about normal humans becoming collateral damage?

I must say that Gug is doing a fine job portraying Kitty as the irresponsible petulant self-righteous little child she is. Even if accidentally.

>>94349549
>The US has borne a disproportional responsibility for dealing with them.
That's because you writers, for all you're lefty garbage, don't talk about what happens in the other countries, bar the occasional jaunt or the made up countries.

As much as I love them, even the best comic book writers suffer from this.

>>94354458
Those Bunn characters were throwaway from the get-go, so I don't think that there's some ebil conspiracy afoot.
Anole being buff was also a shit development, and I'm glad it's being disregarded.

>>94349516
I'm not actually reading this comic, I just wanted to check in and see if Kurt was back to normal yet. I'm glad he is, because the whole damaged hobo thing got old real fast

>>94359696
He still doesn't have his soul though. And as a result he is immortal.
So that's not exactly normal.

>>94359782
Still better and more normal than looking like a hobo with some kind of mutant-ptsd.

>>94350170

Don't remind me of how good that was even if it was Hopeless and then Yost continuing it.

>>94352390

Clone Son. He's been dead for awhile.

>>94349516
So Rachel really is her mother's daughter.

Only Rachel's fetishes are fucking the dead and her uncles.

>>94359696
Nightcawler is undead. It's more appropriate to call him a zombie.

>>94349853

Eh him and Peter have some history. I remember that one Cable story where Nate takes on the Acolytes (when Peter led them) and then Omega Red out of nowhere for reasons.

Red kicks all of their asses and it takes one of the Acolytes sacrifices himself to give them a chance to run away from Red.

>>94350425
I was going to post this reminder.

X-Men really are a sex cult.

Kitty is way less hot than I remember

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>>94360444
Kitty was never that hot to begin with.

She's Claremont's Jail Bait Waifu.

>>94360540
yeah Kitty got hot when Warren Ellas decided to ruin her
>>94360444
they're trying some bizarre lesbian thing with her hair, I thought she was going to be paired up with Rachel but Uncle Guggie throws those unhittable curveballs.

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>>94360658
Oh God, don't remind be about the time Uncle Warren caught the Claremont JailBait fever.

>>94349579

It seems really, really silly to me that in the world they live in some rando dude can just walk in like that. Like, in the real world the FBI and secret service catch people like this before they even leave their home. But I guess because he's got a stupid weapon he just makes it in no prob.