Superman #28 Storytime

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These variants, man.

>>94346819
Wow, Superman skips leg day.

>>94346782
This is a nice cover

wtf is this sjw bs. when is superman gonna punch somebody?

I was promised /pol/ will get salty, will they?

>>94346808
Impressive they didn't take a stance on some odd issue here and make it the focus of the issue, wonder if they'll fuck it up.

>>94346883
its filler until superman gets yellow lantern ring arc and the oz arc anon get the fuck use to it

>>94346836
OK this was kind of touching.

>>94346808
>Superman book showing how big of fags the protesters are

Wow, this series can't stop winning

>>94346883
Does this look like ACTION comics dumbass? Quit baiting

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Batman: >>94346561
Green Lanterns: >>94346710

Support the official release!

people actually like this trash?

>>94346925
>dumping skeletons on people's doorsteps in the middle of the night
Jesus Christ Superman, that's terrifying.

>>94346925
>Superman will never find your corpse, wrap it in an American flag, and carry you home to your family.

Why even die?

>>94346953
go back to your marvel containment thread

Tomasi is such a mediocre writer, does anyone really like this? He makes Jurgens look exciting, which is no small feat.

>>94346883
Did SJW just become a buzz word for "things I don't like and I can't explain in a reasonable why I don't like them"

>shitting on korean war
fucking shit book

>>94346799
>General not Princess

>>94346972
Not him but, OP of GL story-time guaranteed there would be /pol/ outrage here. Saying something will definitely happen, or won't happen, or addressing it at all, only attracts it.

People didn't care before, nothing would have happened, but mentioning it only attracts trouble. I think people are baiting around because of that.

>>94346972
it means not enough of how comics used to be and they pander to the wrong sort

>>94346969

Tomasi's Batman & Robin was great, and most of this book has been good, but this arc doesn't do it for me.

>>94346965
this was just Tomasi vomiting out a few Wikipedia pages on some technically competent but generally uninteresting art. It's not even egregiously political or anything, it's just boring and nothing.

this is probably the most boring Superman has been since Robinson was writing him

>>94346905
>Clark drinking beer
Thank God Didio allow this now.

>All these faggots sperging their retarded shit about Superman

we ree now

>>94346925
Clark, your heart is in the right place, but the execution is horrible.

>>94346969
>That fag that is in every Super-Sons/Superman thread to make clear how he doesn't like it.
What do you like? I'm sure it will be some dogshit.

>>94346983
This.
I came into this thread expecting Superman to personally apologize for slavery on behalf of all white americans in front of the Washington monument.
I am dissapoint.

>>94346984
So yes

>>94346983
he said that because there was outrage last time. this one didn't have coexist bumper sticker or whatever else they got triggered over last time

>>94346983
>advertise /pol/ rage in my own storytimes
>now I get people to bump my threads without asking
Thanks for the idea, GL OP!

>>94346883
go away Zack

>>94346987
>it's just boring and nothing
You just described this Superman run.

>>94347163
I mean it is written by Tomasi, after all. It just seems weird that it's getting so much praise on /co/

>>94347176
/co/ is infested by Reddit
Tomasi is a mediocre writer at best
it's mostly a circlejerk against the New 52, even though that hate mostly isn't deserved (except Johns and Morrison's bullshit)

>>94347163
>>94347176
Ah, the haters.

Sorry if Superman is more successful than Ewing's last attempt at being Morrison.

>>94347185
>reddit
/tv/ go back to your own board, I don't care how much of a shithole it is over there

>>94346983
Yeah there wasn't anything rage worthy in this so yeah I guess you're right.

>>94347078
Anons get triggered over the stupidest things.

>>94346936
Thanks for the storytime, Radical

Was a fun issue. Excited for Yellow Lantern Superman

Most of this comic was a pretty dry recitation of historical facts. It's like that comic in the Sunday paper that just presents some historical event over 2-3 weeks (that I can't remember the name of, was it FlashBack?), only interesting if you learn something new (which is why that comic focuses on lesser known historical figures and events). Pretty much everything here was basic knowledge so I didn't pick up anything new, though I guess they aren't writing this for the history nerds. The finding of the body at the end was the only interesting part, though strangely executed as >>94347006 points out.

>>94346973

That was a pretty neutral, simple presentation of what went down in the Korean War and how it is remembered, I don't see how it's being shit on.

>>94347192
I don't even hate Tomasi, he's just like...nothing. He's like Jurgens or Dixon. So bland and mediocre that they just sort of wash over me unnoticed.

This really didn't need to be two issues but a bit of vamping is to be expected on bimonthly books I suppose.

>>94346782
This is a wonderful cover. Jorge Jimenez is a precious gift.

>>94346972
Yes and here's your other buzzword for that >>94347185

>>94346925
>meanwhile, Batman has a diarrhea thinking how Clark revealed his identity to people that could have had bionic cameras in their eyes

>Jurgens
Second best "Thor" run of all time.

>Dixon
Best "Nightwing" and "Birds of Prey" of all time.

>>94347192
Oh the "EVERYONE WHO CRITICIZE MY MUH BOOK IS EWING FAN!!!" anon.

>>94347235
>meanwhile, Batman has a diarrhea
What?

>>94347248
considering there are at least two Thor runs that are better than Jurgens, that's not true

and best Nightwing is a really fucking low bar

>>94347176
>expect cape fans to have a good taste
Why do you think mediocre boring books are always best sellers and on top 50?

>>94347249
Oh, the "Offended Ewingfag" anon.

There's a thread talking about Super-Sons right now. Go there say how everything in the book is bad because "TOMASI rEEEEEEEEEE".

>>94347288
Why so triggered, anon? Wait, is that you Tomasi? What did Ewing do to you?

>>94347320
be a better writer than him

>>94347288
>Wahhh don't criticize my muh book you Ewing fan reeeeeeeeeee
I guess Tomasi indeed only appeal to kids.

>>94347320
Since I ain't the one who goes into every Superman storytime to rEEEEEEEE, I am clearly not the triggered one.

Don't worry, Ewing, with luck, your next book will be able to sell 20k after the third issue.

>>94346948
Thanks for the storytime, Radical. Kinda felt like leftover pages from the last issue. I'm hyped for the next arc though with the yellow rings.

>>94347357
So you decided to call out these hypothetical "Ewing fans" by Reeeeeing yourself at them. Good argument, dude.

>>94347388
It is not an argument. It is a fact. I'm just pointing out that since they like dogshit writers, they have no ground to REEEEEEEEE in Superman threads every week. I don't make that in USAvengers threads, do I?

Thanks for the storytime OP, but goddamn that was fucking BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooring.

>>94347413
no, we had another autist shitting up USAvengers threads.

>>94347413
Whatever you say, dude. I'm done with your insecurity.

>>94346954
I laughed at that.

>>94347442
Seems fair. Ewing tries too hard to be Morrison to actually write good stories.

>>94347464
I disagree with your opinions and do not respect you as a person.

>>94347472
Wow, wow, man! I am REEEEEEEEEing like an Ewingfag in a Superman/Super-Sons thread.

>>94347496
no, you're just REEEEEing like a Tomasifag (who knew those existed) in a Superman thread

>>94347511
>Tomasifag (who knew those existed)
Since he sells consistently better than NOT-Morrison, they exist is more quantity than Ewinfags.

Now go read some high literature like "Medusa is dying of irony" or "Metaphor is fighting against Galactus" or shit like that.

>>94347571
pretty sure they're buying Tomasi's shit because it has Superman on the cover, not because of Tomasi's name

>>94346954
Superman should have laid it down next to him in bed while he was still sleeping ala The Godfather.

>>94347588
Are you still here? Don't you have some high-quality Rocket Racoon to read, Ewingfag? Maybe Rocket will fight against the quantum-personification of a language figure.

>>94346917

154 years under a river and that skeleton's fucking perfect, I call extreme bullshit.

>>94347640
so are you Bitch Ewing or is it only people shitting on Tomasi that triggers you?

>>94347176

It's basically a history lesson with the Kents. Super comfy. And I just skim these issues.

>>94347657
People who like dogshit writers going out of their way every week to tell others what to read triggers me.

>>94347685
sounds like people recommending Tomasi's Superman desu

I think Tomasi's books are trite and saccharine

>>94347696
Or like people who go in every Superman/Super-Sons thread to REEEEEEEEE.

What do you like, anon? You like Ewing, don't you?

>>94347721
I like Deathstroke.

next you'll tell me Priest is a garbage writer too, I'm sure.

>>94346936
Another fun issue, and as a non-American it was actually pretty informative. But I can't help but feel it would've been even better if these two issues were done as just one giant oversized one and came out on the 4th of July.

Either way I love seeing Superdad and Lois doing family stuff so these issues warmed my heart.

>>94347734
But do you like Ewing? And if yes, why on Earth do you feel entitled to go on Superman threads to talk about how horrible everything is every week when you are reading Medusa dying of irony?

>>94347764
This is actually the first issue of Tomasi's Superman I've read.

I do like Ewing, although I'll admit most of Royals has been eh so far. The Maximus issue was great though.

>>94346782
>Moon Girl

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>>94346969
>Amazing Green Lantern Corps run
>Amazing Batman & Robin run
>Amazing Superman run
>Amazing Super Sons run
>Great Nightwing run
Not to mention he's probably the second biggest DC fag alive outside of Johns.

I'd kill for a Tomasi Teen Titans or Shazam book.

>>94347163
edgy

>>94347773
>I do like Ewing
And there it is.

>>94347788
>low standards the post

>>94347433
Odd way of spelling comfy.

>>94347804
see >>94347796

>>94347804
>"I do like Ewing" the post

>>94347800
yes, anon, you got me. I enjoy a good writer's work and dislike a mediocre writer's work. You have found out my horrible secret.

>>94347805
I guess if you find Wikipedia copy-pasting comfy

>>94347819
>I do like Ewing
>I enjoy a good writer's work
Please, choose one.

>>94347078
No, trumpfags were angry because there was a mention of a senator arrested for selling state secrets to the Russians.

>>94347870
Peter, this isn't healthy.

>>94347819
>Ewing
>good
kek

>>94347873
That was "Super sons", anon.

>>94347881
I agree. Going in Superman and Super-Sons threads every week to warn the readers that they are reading shit, while you are reading EWING? Unhealthy as fuck.

>>94347928
well enjoy wallowing in the mediocrity that is Tomasi, I guess

>>94347734
he is

>>94347873
that was super sons

>>94347948
I will, and would like to do it without Ewingfags, of all people, trying to lecture me on "mediocrity" and "good writing".

As said before, go back to the high literature of Medusa dying of metaphor and Galactus fighting irony? Or was the reverse? Whatever.

>>94347734
Isn't Priest an urbanite thug?

>>94348098
say what you mean, anon

>>94346782
If this were Marvel that littlw girl would be the new Superman.

>>94347784
But anon this is great.

She's looking up to a WHITE guy!

>>94347235
Well, they did give their names and someone might wonder if Superman helping their ancestor out and the huge fuckoff dude in the blue shirt might be connected.
But you know, if Supes kept away from anything he ran into as Clark Kent to maintain OPSEC it would just be heartbreaking.

>>94348139
>new Superman
no, he's Chinese

>>94348133
The fact that I can't is the worst oppression in modern times, worse than the killing fields and Stakin's purges. Why haven't you died so I can say the word and not be persecuted?

Captcha: (((kite)))

>>94346953
this is just a filler arc. normally is much better.

>>94346829
Oh Clark, you should know better than the lies the media tells you about Korea. Oh well.

>>94348199
anon you are perfectly welcome to say nigger on 4chan, of all places

>>94346936
>AC1 1938

Nice.

>>94348214
What lies are you thinking of, Anon?

I'm sorta surprised that no one is screeching about civilian deaths being mentioned at all.

>>94348215
Try reporting yourself and see the naked fist of genocidal oppression, Anon.

>>94348277
ok

yes, Christopher Priest is black, and he's a better writer than all the middle class white men and women working at the Big 2. And all the other writers of varying ethnicities and genders.

>>94348317
you are really upset over people not liking what you like

>>94348317
Thank you for your service, Anon.

>>94347804
>>low standards the post
Jason thood.

>>94348327
I ain't the one going on Superman threads to tell people that they shouldn't like the book every week.

But yeah, I am the one upset, no you.

>>94348251
Honestly, reading it again it is pretty good all things considered. He does say "Police Action" in quotes like that, but the idea it was altruistic UN backed saving of the Korean people is pretty bullshit.

But again, reading it a second time, it's not bad for explaining it to a kid Jon's age.

>>94348371
YOU'RE WELCOME, FELLOW.

IT IS A DIRTY JOB, BUT SOMEONE GOT TO DO IT. WE, READERS OF GOOD BOOKS AND GOOD WRITERS, SHOULD MAKE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, EVERY WEEK, THAT SUPERMAN IS NOT ONE OF THEM. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT LIKE THIS BOOK. IT IS MY DUTY TO REMIND YOU ALL EVERY WEEK, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A YEAR ALREADY.

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>>94346969
Kai pls.

that was absolutely fucking garbage, you can tell one of the writers is a closet trump supporter, fuck this.

>>94348526
lol

>>94348526
Hillary Clinton ?

>>94348526
Timfag lol.you tim faboys are so gay.

>>94348526
Aahz I Know you..
http://community.comicbookresources.com/forumdisplay.php?9-Batman&s=5b26936ae48559eb12a5c1c19f6ad0e1

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Christ, what happened to this thread?

>>94346737
thank you OP the book is good.

>>94346917
>>94346925

Oh, fuck off

This is like the blandest, safest shit ever. There's no way to get mad at this unless you're trying to get mad on purpose. Or if you actually paid money for this history class video lol

>>94348605
>>94348611
>Aahz GO BACK TO
http://community.comicbookresources.com/forumdisplay.php?9-Batman&s=5b26936ae48559eb12a5c1c19f6ad0e1

>>94348526

>Having differing opinions is okay, free speech is wonderful, respect fallen soldiers

>FUCKING DRUMPF SUPPORTERS REEE

>>94348642
I'm not clicking that link, but your opinion is wrong and mine is right. Good night and fuck off.

>>94348642
no one knows what the fuck your talking about

>>94348602
Like six seperate, unrelated groups of mental degenerates all happened to converge at once.

>>94348662
i now it is you ...hahahahahahahahahahaah

>>94348656
>alt-reich hate speech is fine
>muh free speech
>muh military

hug the closest train please

>>94348665
>Aahz post shit in superman threads he hate the witer.

>>94348684
>>94348662
>>94348611
>>94348605
>>94348526
Same IP..it is Timfag Aahz.

>>94348690
>forum drama

this is why 4chan exists, to get avoid the hierarchy, the pecking order, the grudges and the rivalries, and space cadets like this guy

>>94348711

>>94348391
I was at the DMZ a few weeks ago. The South Koreans are pretty fucking grateful to the world for their help.

And Police action is a actual term used in IR.

>>94348839
Today they are, sure. It was different when it happened though, many at the time didn't care much for trading one foreign master for another though.

Oh yes, "police action" is the term used. That doesn't really mean that is what it was.

>>94348665
It's the freaking damifan. I don't know when the freaking incompetent mods will do their job and ban her.

>>94348972
you insult my superman..I protect him :)

>>94349007
You DO type like Damifag, now that I am paying attention.

>>94348972
>>94348665
SAME IP..

I want Tomasi for Batman books.

>>94348391
I don't think many people will claim the Korean War (I'll call it a war for the purpose of this conversation) was anything but a (hurr) War of Northern Aggression.

Mind you, one of my teachers did but he was a raving Commie loon.

>>94349052
He wrote one for three years. It is about to get an omnibus.

>>94346936
I can't believe Clark and Lois are letting their son walk around instead of sitting down with seatbelt on while driving

>>94346782
Jimenez is the fucking best.

>>94348642
This is the kind of people who visit /co/ now. People who not only have an affiliation with CBR but unironically link them here.

>>94346799
If Jon is Han Solo and Lois is Leia
Oh my!

>>94346737
Ok arc. Gotta laugh at how butthurt it's making both NeoFAGS/CBRetards and /co/cksuckers. I do think Tomasi dragged it out for too long, this should've been a one and done arc. Next arc looks more interesting at least.

Why did people suddenly start shitposting about Ewing when some people called this issue boring?

>>94346925

This is super heroic and comfy. You don't need to beat up bad guys to be a super hero or use your powers for good.

>>94346846
He can fly, stupid.

>>94346829
how many people die during one of DC's company wide event?Forever Evil alone had to beat both those wars

>>94349670
That's old.

Almost a year ago someone started to shitpost on Superman storytimes and the guy was an Ewing fan.

>>94346854
Where the fuck does Clark store his clothes?

>>94349670
It's just Damifag. Ignore her.

>>94346925
Whose house is this?

>>94349908
But Damian isn't in this book?

>>94346799
>General
>in an original trilogy reference
>also implying she's her son's gf
>>94346808
>Superman likes frozen peaches
>>94346829
>popular culture has glossed over it
>"What is MASH?"
>>94346936
>Lois puts her feet on the dash
I know her husband's Superman but that's still dangerous.
Glad that's over. The intentions were good but we ended up with way too much tl;dr history lectures.

>>94346925
Id find it funny if every time Clark finds a corpse he drops it off at this persons house

>>94346925
Ok, be honest /co/, if late in the middle of the night you heard a knocking on the door and upon answering it saw a skeleton wrapped in the American flag would you react in a calm collected manner like that?

>>94347788
I just read the most recent Super Sons last night. I would buy the fuck out of a Tomasi Teen Titans book.

>>94349950
Jon, Damian. One and the same thing.

>>94348920
As somebody who's family was able to continue existing because of this war, there are a decent amount of Koreans who were pretty grateful for soldiers like my grandfather.

They didn't really have a choice of who their "foreign masters" were because they didn't have enough resources to really exist as a country after Japanese occupation. South Koreans just really wanted to not to end up under communist rule.

>>94346819
>Loafers
Superman is such a fucking dad...
I love it.

>>94346972
SJW is being used the same way Germany used to be called The Holy Roman Empire

>>94346905
>only one body was never found

Calling it now, this will be a plot point someday.

>>94346782
I truly think Jimenez is going to be a legend within a few years. Dude's really goddamn good.

Meanwhile, Godlewski gets work doing interiors here instead of him. Giving everyone a wicked witch nose. The art isn't BAD, just that Gleason has been doing really well and Jimenez has been slaying covers and Super Sons issues like a savage.

>>94347235
>Batman has a diarrhea

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>>94346936
>parallax

>>94349844
His cape has a pocket in it. He then folds em and irons em really flat with his super strength.

>>94349177
Anon, he can probably laugh off tank shells to the face, you think a car crash will even make him blink?

>>94346925
Is it even possible to get DNA?

>>94350701
It takes a few hundred years for DNA to break down beyond analysis. The much more difficult part is actually identifying his dna in his descendants depending upon the tests.

>>94346819
Kilroy was here

>>94346836
This was touching.

>>94346991
I don't think it's beer. Jon has one too.

>>94349974
>"What is MASH?"

A tv show that many retards today think was about Vietnam.

>>94349974
MASH is for old people that think they're still relevant in pop culture. Even the guy that created it stopped putting it on his resume over a decade ago because of how old and out of touch listing it would make him sound.
I also doubt most people would think it was about something other than vietnam.

>>94346808
look all the marvel fans left and the decent people on the right

>>94346883
dude this is not sjw bullshit ..... this is maga story time ....

Applauds. Rebirth Supes whitewashes the best! Fox would be proud of him these last 2 issues.

This artist can't draw a child's face.

>>94346799
>Jon is Han and Louis is Leia
Just like my chinese cartoons.

>>94349612
Well this was supposed to be at the beginning of last month.

>>94346782
Jimenez I love you you beautiful Spaniard, no homo

>>94346782
Fuckin love it.

>>94347235
>Batman has a diarrhea

>>94346991
>>94351219
Clark drank wine last issue.

>>94349612
>>94346737
that fucking filler issue really feels like it could have been held off. But it was set in Hamilton so it had to get out before they moved (which they already have in Super Sons).

But these two issues would have been fine on their own as a filler arc in the filler months of summer. As it stands it's a filler before a filler.

Though I've enjoyed them, it's time to get back to Some caped shenanigans. (though I'm not one who thought the past year has been lacking in that.)

>>94346836
https://youtu.be/s9Ke2bMYBFs?t=106

>>94350180
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
wew lad

>>94346808
>having an opinion and not worrying about repercussions

Well, I mean, sure, until the other side e-mails your boss demanding you be fired or gets your Patreon cancelled or just plain doxes you and your loved ones. Other than that, no consequences!

>>94346936
This has potential for an out-of-context thread

>>94346808
I live in DC. There are two sides of equal size arguing. There're progressives in pink pussy hats (STILL. They STILL show up in these), a bunch of homeless (white and black... it actually is a diverse amount of human waste), and actual human beings trying to fucking do their jobs despite it all.

>>94352355
Shit. mean't AREN'T two sides... damn delicious wine...

>>94346808
Same DC fag.... just pointing out this particular Air & Space Museum they just went in is the one in Dulles, not the Capitol, and would be about an hour or two drive away.

Diversity and Comics is gonna have an aneurysm reading this.

>>94346936
>Lois makes wavy hands in the wind
CUTE

>>94350413
I'm personally surprised this hasn't been converted into some sappy time travel superman or superboy in the civil war storyline yet. it's got all the necessary markers for one.

>>94346905
I bet Lois can put beer away like a fucking machine. She strikes me as the type - army brat who had to constantly live up to her father's expectations.

I don't like Godlewski art on the faces. How long is he staying?

>>94349177
the only person in that vehicle that would be threatened by a car crash is whoever is in the other vehicle. Lois would be well out of danger before she even realized it happened. the other vehicle would probably be punched as well.

>Filler of nothing except Supes giving history lessons
>at least 5 different faggot ITT reeeing
Between this and the Batman storytimes, no one wins

>>94346936
I heard from somewhere that comics these years NEED to have at least one action scene from the heroes/villains or something like that.
Are those issues the rarest or rare exception?

>>94352788
Breather issues are great, the only problem with this one is that it was full of history textbook copypaste.

>>94349177
He's fairly indestructible. It's fine.

>>94346782
I love this cover but it would have been 100x better if the Shield of the little girl was on Supe's chest, still a 10/10 cover.

>>94352595
He is going away already.

>>94350026
I mean the skeleton won't be the first thing you see since it's wrapped but if it wasn't wrapped like a burrito I'd shit my self desu.

>>94346836
Wish they didn't blur out the names.

>>94346854
I remember being told when I was in elementary school by Angus King (governor at the time) about the 20th Maine Bayonet Charge. He tells it pretty well, though I think he was embellishing it a bit and called it the Charge that saved America.

>>94348605
You're just jealous anon

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>>94346819
>December 7, 1941, became a day that thrust the United States into a war that had been raging across the globe for nearly a decade.
>a decade

Poor, poor Americans

>>94346953
>Marvel Intern

>>94346948
Imagine not living in the great nation of America. Life must suck.

>>94353904
They're counting Korea.

>>94348526
>5 cebts have been deposited in your bank account.

>>94352886
>Breather issues are great
This, I like breather issues (remember issue 7? It was great) and I was excited for the kent vacation when it was announced, but this and thr previous issue are so freaking boring and waste of time.

>>94348642
>Link to CBR

Fucking kill yourself.

>>94354982
>cebts
Something in your nose?

>>94353904
There was a lot of interesting shit going on before Adolf had his I R INVAED POLAN LOLOLOLOLOL moment.

>>94352629
I wonder how it must feel to be Lois, knowing that wherever you are at any moment is probably the safest place to be in in the entire goddamn universe. Because you know nothing short of a complete universe implosion will stop Superman from defending her (alt stories be damned)

>>94353904
I am assuming they are talking about the shit that led up to WWII, maybe even including WWI since the two wars are often seen as a continuation. Things weren't all peaceful before Hitler rose to power you know. Rape of Nanjing, ect.

>>94351319
I like MASH. Its been awhile since I've watched it.

>>94346871
Didn't she go by Lois Lane-Kent after getting married ?

>>94346819
>no mention of the unnecessary nuclear strikes
hmm

>>94355127
Yes. Your moms cunt.

>>94346925
fuck you guys, this is the best example of supes as an american hero in the last 15 years and Im not even one of you

>>94356997
the sentiment is nice but the execution is questionable

>>94352558
One day she'll have to explain her collection of Challenge Coins.

>>94356749
It saved American lives and cowed a fierce people into becoming Westernized so it was worth it.

>>94351757
Its giving Jon something to call back to.

>>94357147
>Killing innocent people and screwing entire generation, totally worth it!
Freaking brainwashed westerns.

>>94346737
>Look son, a faggot.

>>94357225
Sometimes bad things have to happen to get good outcomes.

>>94357262
And what good outcome come from that? Japan was willing to surrender. What they were not willing was turning their backs on their Emperor by giving him to the west which can easily be negotiated, but they didn't since America wanted to show off their new toys.

>>94357349
The current status quo. I prefer Japan as it is now to say, a potential rogue state full of resentment which is what they could have been.

...but I like Ewing AND Tomasi

>>94357225

Operation Downfall (the invasion of the Japanese home islands)
>estimated American casualties in the first 90 days: 149,000-515,000 (lower estimate based on European campaigns, higher estimate based on Pacific campaign)
>estimated final American deaths: 500,000 (this would have doubled the American fatalities for the entire war)
>estimated total Japanese casualties: 5-10 million (up to 15% of the prewar population)
>Japanese forces include up to 31 million conscripts/irregulars, aka innocent people given sticks and expected to fight to the death (think British Home Guard but even worse equipped and trained)
>based on experiences in Okinawa, a large number of Japanese civilians were expected to commit suicide if Allied forces landed (nearly half the population of Okinawa died as a combined result of both fighting and suicide)
>Japanese guerilla campaign expected to continue the fight for years if a surrender was not secured (and historically there were several holdouts who never stopped fighting for decades, the last coaxed into surrender by his former superior officer in 1974)

Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
>combined estimated Japanese dead: 129,000-226,000

Tell me which of these things seems worse to you, especially for the civilian population of Japan.

Fun fact, we're still issuing purple hearts manufactured for the invasion of Japan. We still have 120,000 left.

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>>94357692
Don't play with me which is worst game. Japan did a lot of bad things, but that doesn't excuse what America did. They are the ones who tricked Japan into attacking PH so they can have an excuse to enter the war. Your government sacrificed their people and many others just to profit from war.

So this is what Supercross died for?

>>94357349
The alternative was being crushed under the Iron boot of Russia.x and the Emperor was a tool of the military by then. Then Japan tried to negotiate terms of surrender like they hadn't already lost.

>>94357872
Japan was "tricked" into raping an pillaging its way across Asia? Seems like a perfectly legit reason to stop selling them oil and scrap.

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>>94357872
>They are the ones who tricked Japan into attacking PH so they can have an excuse to enter the war.

>>94357872
Tricked? They did that entirely on their own. The US didn't switch an order saying give the US lots of sushi with give the US lots of bombs.

>>94352405
I was just about to say the same. This is the joint in the transformers flick right?

>>94356749
>>94357225
>>94357349
>>94357872
Are you an idiot?

>>94357872

>They are the ones who tricked Japan into attacking PH so they can have an excuse to enter the war.

Please help, I'm dying of laughter. I bet you're one of those people who also think France and Britain started the war in the west, because alliances aren't a real thing and Germany holds claim to half of Poland.

>Japan invades China (after already taking Manchuria years earlier along with Korea)
>the US, clearly displeased by Japan's continued expansion against a regional ally, embargoes Japan, with the condition that sanctions will be lifted if Japan fucks off back to Manchuria
>rather than sit on the considerable gains that they already have, Japan continues to press into China
>starts running out of oil and rubber
>US prepares defenses in the Philippines for possible Japanese attack
>Japan, in a surprise move, attacks Pearl Harbor instead, along with American and British Holdings throughout the Pacific in a well coordinated series of attacks that seizes practically everything west of the international date line sans Australia

Tell me, what kind of fool "tricks" someone into attack their fleet at harbor with most of their battleships and fuel on the line (remember that nobody really understands the power of carriers at this point, everyone is still fapping over battleships, even the Japanese), puts all their defense in the Philippines, and then loses all those defenses and just about every about every Pacific holding they and their biggest ally have? This is a grand trick makes no sense, especially with FDR far more concerned with the war in Europe and not wanting to bring a war on two massive theaters (not fronts, THEATERS).

>>94358050
>>94358057
>>94358172
>Roosevelt had already led the United States into war with Germany in the spring of 1941—into a shooting war on a small scale. From then on, he gradually increased U.S. military participation. Japan's attack on December 7 enabled him to increase it further and to obtain a war declaration. Pearl Harbor is more fully accounted for as the end of a long chain of events, with the U.S. contribution reflecting a strategy formulated after France fell. . . . In the eyes of Roosevelt and his advisers, the measures taken early in 1941 justified a German declaration of war on the United States—a declaration that did not come, to their disappointment. . . . Roosevelt told his ambassador to France, William Bullitt, that U.S. entry into war against Germany was certain but must wait for an "incident," which he was "confident that the Germans would give us." . . . Establishing a record in which the enemy fired the first shot was a theme that ran through Roosevelt's tactics. . . . He seems [eventually] to have concluded—correctly as it turned out—that Japan would be easier to provoke into a major attack on the Unites States than Germany would be.3

>>94358243
>The claim that Japan attacked the United States without provocation was . . . typical rhetoric. It worked because the public did not know that the administration had expected Japan to respond with war to anti-Japanese measures it had taken in July 1941. . . . Expecting to lose a war with the United States—and lose it disastrously—Japan's leaders had tried with growing desperation to negotiate. On this point, most historians have long agreed. Meanwhile, evidence has come out that Roosevelt and Hull persistently refused to negotiate. . . . Japan . . . offered compromises and concessions, which the United States countered with increasing demands. . . . It was after learning of Japan's decision to go to war with the United States if the talks "break down" that Roosevelt decided to break them off. . . . According to Attorney General Francis Biddle, Roosevelt said he hoped for an "incident" in the Pacific to bring the United States into the European war.

This is why your government played and sacrificed you all these years. Because you are freaking blind and dumb to the truth.

>>94358243
>posts a quote
>doesn't provide a source
what did he mean by this?

also

why is this happening in muh comfy soup thread?

america > every other shithole (aside from Spain since they gave us Jimenez and Real Madrid.)

go to /a/ and smooch some weenies there.

>>94358277
>sacrificed you all these years
what did he mean by this?

go start a thread on /pol/ so we can talk about it.

Lets talk Soup and Son

>>94358332
>All these people quoting without sources
>single me out form all these people because I proved him wrong
Not only blind idiot, but a hypocrite too.

Source: The Pearl Harbour Myth.

>>94358243

>entry into war against Germany was certain but must wait for an "incident," which he was "confident that the Germans would give us."
>confident that the Germans would give us.
>Germans

Again, FDR was more concerned with Europe than the Pacific. Notice how the entire second half of your quote focuses on Europe as a response to the fall of France. The US was happy to let Japan stew in the quagmire that was China (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mTlnrXFAXE) while focusing on active measures to fight Germany. US leadership was NOT confident in the US military's ability to fight in two massive theaters while also feeding massive quantities of supplies to allies across the globe (from Britain to Russia to China, the US was slinging considerable amounts of war material). As such, keeping Japan contained but docile was the ultimate strategy.

Hell, an even better strategy was to be friends with Japan, because up until the invasion of China and the embargo the US was supplying 80% OF JAPANESE OIL. The US was HAPPY to supply Japanese expansionism until they started attacking their ally, and the final straw was when the Japanese decided to ally with Germany. Again, all Japan had to do was sit on their current empire and it could have held to this day (though realistically Korea and Manchuria would have broken away like the other now-former colonies of European powers).

>>94358499
anon's greentext was a point by point summary of events.

you gave a direct quote. I'd call you dirty words but superman would expect better.
And after all, this is a Superman storytime thread on /co/.

>>94358499
also, you didn't prove anyone wrong, let alone me who isn't even the anon you were responding to.

but again, back to chicken Supes for much cold soul.

>>94349177
yeah, especially only an issue after they allowed him to go boogie boarding down Niagra Falls

>>94346782
Jimenez drawing himself in the bottom right, lads.

bumping for others

>>94358499
/x/ is not a source

>>94349177
Nigga, he has super-durability. A car crash isn't going to do anything to Jon.

>>94346737
I'm not really feeling this cover.

>>94346782
This variant SUCKS. Why is everyone getting so hyped over this?

THIS ISSUE FUCKING SUCKS

The ending few pages is literally the only decent part of the entire issue.

Thanks, OP.

>>94346737
>more left wing propaganda
no thanks
no wonder comics are selling so badly nowadays.

>>94346936
The nationalistic legacy of Superman, while cool and necessary in the past, doesn't really work in contemporary atmosphere. Even if you try to show the diversification and eclecticism. Don't try to shove this kind of social commentary in a Superman book, you might think your outlook of things is hopeful and optimistic but it cimes off as variations of deluded, simplistic and unrealistic. The contemporary zeitgeist is too complex to be captured or commented upon in as simple of a book as this one. Honestly people should call this shit out, even the ones on Rebirth kool-aid.

>>94352534
This point right here>>94346864
Would've been perfect for things to get weird.

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>>94346854
>>94349844
>>94350646
And then he stores it on his mouth

>>94362095
fuck off spic.

Superman is american. He's from fucking Kansas. Fuck you an everything you represent faggot. You don't know the first fucking thing about the character.

Do you dislike religious imagery in Daredevil? Because catholicism is bad and muh crusades?

Fuck you

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>>94346819
According to Tomasi on twitter they had to change this spread due to copyright stuff with some of the statues at the memorial. Godlewski posted the original spread here http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1412500

>>94361238
>Implying you wouldn't be hyped over Supes flying over you

>>94362666
This one is a lot better satan.

>>94362542
Religion isn't bad, unapologetic nationalism is. Superman also didn't care about people dying right in front of him and he was a massive dick, that was also his "character" but you don't want to see that now, do you?

>>94362666
Fuck thats so much better

>>94352307
He's saying that people who do that are wrong and aren't good people. Supes is advocating for speaking your mind

>>94346925
Clark did you just fucking ruin a century and a half family tradition?

>>94346987
>It's not even egregiously political or anything
>Marvel fags unironically think this is a bad thing

>>94346808
>pro free speech
>peaceful protests
>respectful depiction of issue

wtf in my comic books?

>>94362095
You are a fucking idiot

>>94346836
I was a pallbearer at my Uncle's funeral this morning. Korean War vet.

Think this just became page of the decade for me.

Superman 028 (2017) (Webrip) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP)
http://www30.zippyshare.com/v/0n4JdUMk/file.html

>>94362095
>>94363994

Assuming both are from the same person, I suspect you are confusing both jingoism and nationalism for pride. It's possible to be proud of say a shared history or shared accomplishments and still find fault or seek to make change.

I'm also not sure how you conflate what you're implying from this two-parter.

>>94362666
>copyright on a fucking memorial
>you can't include it in a comic book

are you fucking kidding me

>>94369168
https://twitter.com/PeterJTomasi/status/892826954499543041
https://twitter.com/PeterJTomasi/status/892827281944715267
https://twitter.com/PeterJTomasi/status/892827551126749184
The land of the free.

>>94346890
it's nice when people go out of their way to remind everyone that the civil war wasnt just LE EBIL SLAVEOWNERS VS RIGHTEOUS NORTHERNERS and sometimes quite literally was splitting families and friends down the middle.

In all this current hubub about removing confederate statues, it bears remembering that Confederate soldiers are still considered American veterans right along up there with vietnam vets and WW2 vets. There is no real
distinction made

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>>94347235
>>meanwhile, Batman has a diarrhea

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>>94369233
wait... so... who owns the copyright...?

>>94369512
the guy who designed it, apparently

but I think it's only the Korean War memorial, I don't know about the WW2 memorial

>>94369387
they were given VA benefits (in 1958), but they were never officially classified as US veterans.

>>94369387
ok, but removing monuments to institutions of slavery =/= erasing history completely

I mean, I'm with your point, and hell, most of the guys that died for the South never even owned a slave in their lives, but in hindsight that just makes their sacrifices all the sadder.

>>94369168
>copyright on a fucking memorial

You can copyright anything creative

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>>94346782
>>94346863
>>94347222
>>94349359
>>94350420
>>94352063
>>94352126
>>94353135
>>94359996

Thought folks might like a textless of the Jimenez variant. Unfortunately, this isn't a huge one, I'm still looking around for it, but it's HQ quality.

>>94361238
It does a really nice job of capturing the 'why' question - so if you have to ask why everyone is so hyped, then you just don't understand the basic question. Sadly, that means these runs are probably not for you.

>>94362666

Yeah, sadly that's a much nicer image, even uncolored. Not sure why they couldn't come up with anything better than they did unless it was a rush? Does anyone know?

thanks OP

>>94371930
>unless it was a rush
That'd be my guess. Remember these are twice monthly so they're always pretty rushed.

>>94349974
>Superman likes frozen peaches
You're god damn right he likes freedom of speech. American way mother fucker.

>>94356417
Only in the TV show Lois & Clark. In the comics she kept her own name.
People sometimes called her Lois Kent, and Lex Luthor sometimes called Clark, Clark Lane.

>>94355204
That was her reasoning in Convergence for coming back into the past when they had to fight the Anit-Monitor again.
She said the savest place in the universe is right at Clark's side.

>>94356749
I'm not American, I am critical of the nuclear strikes, but I wouldn't raise a ten year old kid with superpowers on stories of all the terrible things people can do to each other. That sounds like a receipt for desaster to me.

>>94374168

Yeah, there were parts of Convergence I didn't like, from the main book to some of the two parters - but I'm kinda not happy that Superman Reborn also did away with the Lois & Clark mini and most of Arrival.

>>94369387
Pride has to have some thought behind it, too.
They may be veterants but they aren't US veterans, because they were fighting for a secession from the USA and not for the USA.

>>94374311
Superman fighting powerless, and Lois being pregnant and playing oracle was such a good idea. It's a bummer that they scrapped it

>>94346925
goddamn

>>94346912

>Even on vacation, it's all he can do to block out the endess troubles of the world.

>>94374714
>playing oracle

Well, they didn't have that in the 8 issue mini, but it was a lot clearer that Lois and Clark were a partnership and she was probably more of the breadwinner as a best selling, if anonymous author, than Clark was as your simple farmer, especially if you accept that he was 'truly' retired as Superman by and large for the years Jon was growing up and he took off.

>>94374834

Well, I think they still go by the he doesn't really need to sleep as much as your average Earthling.

>>94369168
it's a piece of art. Paris doesn't let you use the eiffel tower in commercial use. Not to say the frogs should be the blue chip freedom stock over america but it's more of an artist's thing than the society.

It's a bit odd that a comic artist wouldn't know about the problem because you can sure as hell bet they'd sue for money if they saw one of their panels or pages in a separate commercial release.

>>94372921

>>94375763
It's more about how we treat the respective pieces of art. One is a public monument associated with something of historical and sentimental important to the country at large. The other is a drawing in a commercial product. There's the perception that the former should be entirely about the art itself, with no concerns about its commercial worth.

>>94374717
That's a Superman thing. It's a good thing.

Looking forward to Clark getting Jon introduced to his city.

>>94375834
In many ways I agree. I didn't really add my own personal thoughts on it but I think it should be a fair use not only because it wasn't on the cover and it was a pretty historically informative issue that could be shown to kids but also because it's in public. On the most public land in all the country.

If I can't stop someone in the street from taking a picture of me and my family in the front yard why should an artist's sculpture on public land have that privilege?

I just think it's pretty common knowledge, and should be for artists, and that even if we like to see it as some solemn piece it was likely (I could be mistaken) a commissioned work. Though I understand not sperging out on random little things like that when constructing what could have (and still was) one of the best spreads of the two issue arc.

>>94346927
>>94351680

>whatisreadingcomprehension.gif

>>94367471
reading is fundamental

>>94346846

This particular artist (I've not noticed him before) in the issue before this and this one, draws Clark, most of the time, with stick figures legs and still with the exceedingly Bruce Timm type disproportionate chest. Since the muscles are genetic versus weightlifting, that's just absurd. It's also inconsistent since here >>94346799, it looks far more proportionate.

>>94347216
>>94347163
>>94346987
>>94346953


>>94347750

I'm fortunate enough to live in a city with a great library system that has a pretty good collection of catalogue trades from not just Marvel and DC, but all sorts of other things. They have Manga in various Far East languages and graphic novels in Russian, Persian and Spanish that I've noticed.

The other cool thing they have is floppies for the children's room and that includes Superman. So this two parter is probably designed for that kind of audience as much as it is for college age or older fans.

>As a concept I am 100% onboard with Tomasi and Gleason taking a breather to show us Superman’s love for America because it’s completely in character for the Man of Steel. Though he’s technically an illegal (literal) alien, Clark Kent is all-American. He’s the ideal that the GOP heralds, despite the fact that he would fundamentally disagree with a lot of their policies if he existed in reality. The Superman of yore fought for “Truth, Justice and the American Way.” But like Captain America in the face of the Marvel Civil War, Superman stands for American ideals over political policy.

>Superman 28 is a weird comic book, especially for 2017. The bulk of the issue is Superman out of costume, touring D.C. monuments telling his son how awesome America is. It’s a piece of propaganda fiction that would help sell war bonds if this were 1944. And I don’t mean to use the term disparagingly – propaganda doesn’t need to be this surreptitious device of manipulation. What Tomasi and Gleason are trying to achieve here – as Spencer noted – is a recollection of American history through the lens of the individual soldier and the ripple effect that sends through time.

>The issue comes off as preachy because it IS, but it’s not because it’s through some agenda – liberal or otherwise. Superman has always been preachy because he stands above the rest of us as an ideal to strive towards. Besides a sometimes skeptical Superman, I don’t think there’s many heroes within the DCU that don’t view Superman as a role model superhero. So it’s no surprise that Superman 28 has The Man of Steel teaching his son (the next generation) how important it is to not lose sight of the people who actually fight our wars.

https://retcon-punch.com/2017/08/03/superman-28-discussion/

>>94348139
the sad thing is you're right

>>94346836
This is drawn wrong. The wall is supposed to slope into the ground, so that it looks like it goes on forever.

>>94346836
So we can blame this guy for all the shit Sam's gotten up to?

>>94377476
>Sam's

???

thx for the storytime Norrin

>>94377665
Sam Lane, Lois' father and U.S. General, who's commonly used as a xenophobic, anti-Superman antagonist when a writer wants to do a story where the government/military are the bad guys.

>>94378051
I would either blame Sam Lane or the writers for all the shit Lane has gotten up to.

>>94347650

When the vegetation ate his flesh to become Swamp Thing 1854, it left behind rhizomes to hold the bones together.