Nick TMNT

>>94342464
It wasn't the 2003 version reanimated in HD.

>>94342464
At least they're fuckable.

Not much. It's a fun series, but certainly could have handled some of it's plot threads better.

Hell, isn't that kid still a pile of goop?

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>>94342506
Yeah, she wants the D so hard

>>94342464
making donnie interested in april was a msitake

>>94346503
I don't see it as a mistake, but as something new and interesting for the franchise. Always being about Casey-April is getting a little boring you know.

>>94342464
Having shitty schedules that made people disinterested if they don't even know when new episodes came out. Also those Halloween episodes I think killed a lot of interest in the show

The writing. The writing went wrong.

It's hard to explain in a number of words, but there was no sense of causality to anything in the show. The turtles would do something stupid, then spend the episode trying to fix it, never having learned to not do the stupid thing in the first place. A long-running love triangle between April, Donatello and Casey led to absolutely nothing. The mutagen man subplot was repeatedly referenced, then completely forgotten. The show made a huge deal about retro-mutagen being so difficult to cultivate, but Mikey can make thousands of gallons of it by complete accident just in time for the turtles to save New York City from the Kraang.

There were no consequences for the anyones'' actions, no one ever learned anything, and when they did try to make a meaningful change it felt hollow and forced. When the writers finally pulled the trigger and killed off Splinter, it fell completely flat because they pulled a bait-and-switch with Splinter dying at least twice before.

Actions don't mean anything when there are no consequences for those actions. It just feels empty and pointless.

>>94342464
Shitty schedule

>>94346579
It was fucking shit. The fact that they refused to commit to it just made Donnie a creepy stalker that didn't know when to fuck off

>>94347022
And yet both this show and the 1987 series are a million times more popular than the '03 cartoon.

>>94348320
Ok? that doesn't disprove the writing issues though

>>94346579
>>94348303
it was ok until he showed the diagram where he rigs the game (more of determines every possibility) so she says "yes"

>>94348359
I know, I'm saying that writing doesn't matter. Marketing is everything in this industry, as in many others.

>>94342464
The entire space arc was pure trash. Like, it was borderline unwatchable.

>>94344695
Yes. They more or less forgot about him.

>>94342464
It had the most pitiful version of Shredder ever. As a worm ridden corpse, he at least had sense enough to fuck off back to hell. Also, dog-zombie being an actual zombie and being dispatched in pathetic fashion for a final time.

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>>94348417
sure it's not this?


don't recall much of the live-action tv shredder

>>94348360
It was just a funny scene. I do not know why some people get this elements of Kids TV Shows so seriously.

>>94348651
reminds me too much of another cartoon guy who doesn't want to get a 'no' from his love interest.

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>>94348718
Friendly reminder that this girl is the only creepy stalker of all TV shows I know. But of course people find her actions "cute"

>>94348821
>it's an "anon doesn't understand basic biological differences between the sexes" episode
Hoo boy.

>>94348821
know of the show but haven't seen it so i wouldn't know.

though unless she goes full psycho (cabin in the woods, amputates your limbs so you can't escape) isn't the accepted reaction for a clingy beautiful (i can't stress out the importance of this) girl is "lucky SOB!"

>>94348718
April have never said a no. In fact, in season 3 Donnie was saying to her "I will stop", and her answer was a kiss on the lips (wtf?) . That was clearly a "I dont want you to stop". It's not all Donnie's fault.

tmnt 2012 great series one of the best reboot
there are two kind people
the one that butch because helove TMNT 2003
and the other just complain for the complain
++++++++++++++++++

>>94348885
Maybe Donnie's problem was that he wasn't direct enough.

Maybe she genuinely wanted him over Casey. Or maybe she wanted both.

>>94342464
literally just adapt the IDW TMNT.

>>94348969
You think Nick would allow that?

Did Nick lose the rights to this IP yet or Was that only Activision that can't make video games out of it anymore?

>>94348979
Probably not, for that to happen it has to be out of Nick's hands.

>>94348981
>>94348993
I can't think of a single property that has ever left one of the big 3.

>>94349003
Disney used to own Power Rangers.

>Shitty space arc
>Badly written romance
>Ruined Bishop
>Ruined Hun
And many more.

>>94348320
which is why we will never get a TMNT cartoon that even comes close to the original comic. the 2003 toon was probably the closest we will get.

>>94349265
But it wasn't the content that caused the difference in popularity, it was the marketing.

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>>94348969
We can only dream

>>94348948

Well Casey has been a no show for a while, and your had Raphael looking at them as a couple during Dregg's invasion of earth. Writers probably just went fuck it, it happened not explaining how.

>>94351171
Yeah since season 4 they forgot the love triangle and writers focused on Donnie-April (desu, the power inside her was like an apritello fanfiction of a 14 year old girl. And When Worlds Collide you see them acting with each other like two lovebirds). It's just about time when writers put them together.

>>94346579

Different doesn't always mean good, especially when they botch the execution. It became his only quality and even when his brothers where hurt or shit was serious it was always DRRR APRIL WUV ME!

>>94351364
Season 1 and 2 could be like that, but since season 3 things changed a lot.

>>94351364
At least Donnie has a character development and stop his creepy actions during the show. Casey however is still a jerk and he only know to say "so metal" even when his planet and his family was destroyed like 13 seconds ago and flirts with every hot girl he sees.
I'm not a very fan of Donnie in this show, but Donnie>>>>>>>Casey.

>>94349003
Well, Doug never left the big 3 as a whole, but it jumped from one (Nick) to another (Disney).

>>94342464
A lot of pointless meandering. They keep overextending plot points to the point where you just stop giving a shit. Shredder started off intimidating (though I didn't like his "generic KMR" voice), but even he ended up feeling as incompetent as 80s cartoon Shredder considering how much he just sits there and lets shit happen then talks angrily about it.

>>94346579
It went absolutely nowhere. It also made April look like a cunt.
>Knows Donnie has a crush on her
>Keeps side stepping it
>Kisses Donnie when you know he's about to put the entire "crush" thing to rest
>Act like a bitch to him the very next episode because he thinks he has a chance since you fucking kissed him

Seriously, that shit killed it for me.

>>94347022
This. Well said.

>>94348320
Is that supposed to mean something?

>>94348417
Most pitiful Shredder was the Saban one, then >>94348513
But this one definitely sucks. They keep trying to make him intimidating, but he fucks up all the time to the point where it's comical.

>>94342491
Well, besides this being the best answer, simply Nick. It killed the show because of shit advertising while in the background they were getting ready for their TMNTGO! series.

>>94351784
This honestly sounds really familiar, is there other shows that does this as well? It's ringing some bells...

I really have to be the one to point out the Karai problem?

>>94342464
The fandom.

>>94349190
Hun was the only thing they improved.

>>94353386
What problem exactly? Her being Splinter's daughter?

The current season has backed away from focusing so much time on Don x April and the show is a lot better because of that.

>>94353386
It falls into the "plots overstaying their welcome" category.

>>94353386
Haven't watched this series, but is >>94353596 why she apparently doesn't sound Asian now?

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>>94347022
>The turtles would do something stupid, then spend the episode trying to fix it
They created every villain and grudge in the entire series with the single exception of Dimension X attacking the multiverse. Even Shredder, because of time travel!

It's fine to have the heroes make a mistake and create a villain or two. But this show was absurd! The created entire armies of super villains and brought several space invaders to earth. The turtles didn't start feeling like genuine heroes until the latest(and last) season.

But I still enjoyed the show. Action cartoons are slim pickings the past several years so I take what I can get.

>>94353665
>why she apparently doesn't sound Asian now?
Who gives a shit? The original Shredder was voiced by Uncle Phil.

>>94342464
Yojimbo NEEDED to happen. This was a great choice and I've liked the last to episodes a lot.

>>94353956
I'm not sure what your point is there, since 2003 Shredder is vastly superior to all others anyways.

>>94353596
>Her being Splinter's daughter?

Her being Splinter's daughter and the show basically ignoring it for the bulk of it's run time. And she's stuck in a cycle of revenge on this person or that person and then snek.

>>94354042
Don't forget Leo still wanting to hit

>>94342464

-Too much 80swank
-Too much lolrandum humor
-Constant pop-culture references (Lol we just had a whole episode homaging a movie the target audience doesn't know about, isn't that hilarious?)
-Most braindead version of Mikey.
-Not 2K3

>>94354078
80s wank was good
Humour needed work and it clashed with the tone
Pop-culture references will never die and they're not there for the demographic usually. They're there for the creators to enjoy writing, especially in children's shows.
Yeah mikey was fucked. How many times has he 'died' now
2003 wasn't even that strong, mate.

>>94354109

>2003 wasn't even that strong, mate.
Still the best animated version to date, though then again it doesn't have much competition unless you're an 80s elitist who only views that stupid toy commercial as the definitive version of the entire franchise or a child watching 2K12.

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>>94354042
To think of it, is she really a good character?
Her personality always seemed wrong to me.

>>94342464
Season 3 in general happened

>>94354224
Don't forget the 4th season

>>94354246
Second half of 4th season was cool

>>94354182
Maybe the first 2 seasons. Once they got heavy into the space stuff, it started getting tiresome, especially because it as well kept dragging Shredder in some form or another into the forefront.

Really, that's the biggest issue with the animated/film adaptions; they keep using Shredder. Fucking put him to rest for a while and let some new or other big comic villain have the spotlight.

>>94354485
Nah, the space arcs were awesome, as was the 3rd season (especially considering the finale). The first 3 seasons were gold (as they had the original Shredder), the 4th was still great, the 5th was a nice capstone to the series.

The other two were actually shockingly underrated, though not quite as good.

>>94354535
Space arc wasn't awesome. It was awesome in theory. It needed much more work than it got and to be honest it needed to be a lot shorter. They kept stretching out thin content to meet numbers.

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Everything about this thing. Why not just make her Shredder's daughter? The entire drama was so convoluted it killed the series, and only continue to watch due to sunk cost.

>>94354535
They had some moments, sure, but weren't all that strong. Then they did that future series, and it was just retarded. Not to mention they kept mucking up the animation despite it being just fine in the first few. All that aside, the movie finale was solid, if a bit too harsh on how goofy the 80s turtles were.

>>94342464
Terribly schedule. Space arc and everything after just felt like going in circles.

>>94354570
Nah, it was really great as it was. The only thing that bothered me a bit about those arcs was how futile they seemed in retrospect, as at the very end it's revealed that neither side wanted to go to war but for the insane leaders.

But that's just like real life for you, isn't it?
>>94354641
As implied in the spoiler, I really liked FF. It may not quite reach the highs of the first few seasons, but to say it's actually bad is ridiculous

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>>94354638
I liked the idea of her being Splinter's kid, but turned against him with either realizing it at first. But yea, they should have had it resolved once she learned the truth instead of her constantly gunning after Shredder's ass even when she pretty much knew he could spank her without trying.

>>94354667
>but to say it's actually bad is ridiculous
The character designs were pretty garbage.

>>94354669
Man, that design is terrible compared to 2003's (which itself wasn't that great, actually).

>>94354695
They were definitely worse, yes, but the difference was far less than you would think from all the screaming about it.

(In fact BTTS bothered me quite a bit more than FF, both design and writing-wise.)

2K3>2K12>1987

>>94354645
Totally agree.

>>94354781
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
(Though the first gap should be much bigger than the second.)

>>94354669
I want to slap that butt.

>>94354743
They seemed pretty different having shoulders twice as broad as they used to be.

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>>94354841
Say what you want about the designs and writing, the show had some decent fanservice at times.

>>94354919
I never even noticed that. It all just looked more squared-off to me, that was it.

>>94354939
Not everyone shares your disgusting fetishes.
But I will concede that April's design is one of the very few things 2012 did much better than 2003.

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>>94354971
>disgusting
Never said it was one of mine, and even rope bondage is tame as fuck. Have you ever seen /d/, nigga?

>>94354998
>Have you ever seen /d/
No, and I do not plan on doing so any time soon.

>>94355027
Weakling

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Did you guys like When World's Collide, the Newtralizer & Lord Dregg teamup?
Dregg’s army attacking earth was actually pretty horrific, I was impressed at how menacing it was. But I thought Newtralizer becoming Electro was a weird choice.

>>94355654
Shame they made the whole thing with Shredder doing in Splinter pointless with the time travel, only to then do it all AGAIN sans the earth asploding.

>>94355654
The worst thing that come of tmnt 2012

>>94354712
shit taste, this is her best design.

>>94342464
It started strong, then it became a bit repetitive and annoying.
Still, I am going to miss this show, especially now that is going to be replaced with what seems to be the TMNT version of Teen Titans Go.

>act more like samurai
>edge and pointed weapons. no one gets slashed or stabbed unless a robot.

>>94353585
Nick "Hun" is just evil Bruce Lee. At least the old Hun was his own character.

>>94354669
>I liked the idea of her being Splinter's kid, but turned against him with either realizing it at first. But yea, they should have had it resolved once she learned the truth instead of her constantly gunning after Shredder's ass even when she pretty much knew he could spank her without trying.
It would've been better if she went on her own dark path, but it just kept flipp-flopping until she became useless and good.

>>94356085
She kind of did, what with her becoming a monster who couldn't control herself and was turned because of her own carelessness. Problem is, the Kraang shit cropped up again and she got shelved for most of the season until the turtles got rid of the aliens.

>>94342464
So is the final season just random adventures?

>>94342464
Nick, air time, plot driven.

>>94356152
It looks like they're cleaning up the rogue gallery, having a final battle with most of the big ones.

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>>94342464
>want to read IDW TMNT after the FCBD issue this year
>It's 70 issues deep
Is there a decent jumping on point or do I have to read it all?

>>94356416
If you don't want to be confused you have to read everything

>>94356416
Don't be a faggot and read it all

>>94356478
>>94356467
Alright then, I'll try to finish it all in time for next months issue

>>94354841
>Buenos dias, Karai

It's a fine show.
I enjoy watching it when there's a bunch of new episodes around.

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>>94356514
Lol that's probably not going to happen. For every main series issue there's a side story issue that you should read too. Here's a recommended reading order so you don't get confused.

http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-idw-tmnt-continuity-timeline.html

Don't worry about catching up for next month, just start reading.

Viacom.

>>94353997
Yeah, these episodes are gold.

Yojimbo getting his own show when?

It overinflated its cast and subplots when it couldn't deliver on any of them.

>>94358275
Eh Rob Paulsen will do amything. And the only added character I can think of was hothead? Mark Hamill will never pass up a chance to voice a new character.

I think it did many things awesomely. loved Splinter's fight scenes, loved the crossover episode, and I was amazed by Rat King in this one

things I hate? probably the explanation for the voice change for Leo, the Donnie/April shipping, and how much of a retard Mikey is in this
>>94344695
now he's an evil pile of goop
>>94348981
I'm fairly certain they're doing an entirely new series for this
>>94349190
I liked Hun in his initial appearance
it was different, but I thought making him Bruce Lee was pretty funny

They fired Leonardo's original voice actor and changed the writing staff between seasons, thus making him a shitty leader who keeps being made the most important for poorly explained reasons.

Also they kept benching Karai because they didn't wanna write her.

>>94348969
S&P will never allow anything that awesome to be put on the airwaves

>>94342464
Casey Jones. Most annoying character of the show.

>>94342464
3 and a half seasons of Krang
half a season on Name-- i mean, April's farm house
Splinter dozen death fakeouts, and when they finally killed him for good he came back as a force ghost
other than Shredder and Tiger Claw, every henchman turning into pathetic jobbers after their first imposing appereance

>>94359261
They only faked out the audience twice, while the other two deaths did happen, but the first was undone and thus made entirely pointless.

>>94359261
>appereance