Toonami Ratings for 7/29/17

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>>94339532
Jojo's Bizarre Memeventure killing this block for the second time

>>94339532
No one cares about Rick and Morty outside of its first airing


8:00 Dragon Ball Super (r) 0.38 705 0.24 306
8:30 Dragon Ball Super 0.40 673 0.28 353
9:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.39 622 0.26 338
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.41 646 0.29 368

10:00 Family Guy (r) 0.48 731 0.33 419
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.58 941 0.42 537

>>94339571
Oh look, here it is again

4:00a Rick & Morty (r) 441 0.20 254
4:30a Rick & Morty (r) 455 0.21 268

5:00a King of the Hill (r) 453 0.20 257
5:30a King of the Hill (r) 462 0.20 257

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>>94339561
What, are you joking? The drop is clearly from Dragonball Z. It's a clean drop starting from the first show to the last.

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>>94339532
>jojobronies said P3 would save Toonami
>give it a premium timeslot
>it does WORSE than AoT ever did

Remember when people with brains said Jojo got pitiful ratings and this was a stupid pickup? It's going to be great having Jojo go down as the show that killed new Toonami

>>94339667
Last week you retards were saying it would save the block. Now you are back peddling and saying it did fine because it had good retention

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Toonami continues to circle the drain, while One Piece continues to grow in power.

>The best selling comic of all time.
>In the Guinness Book of World Records
>soon to have a live action television series estimate to set a record for television budget
>Oda still has a beautiful wife and kids who love him
>Universal Studios is busting out new One Piece attractions

Meanwhile, you faggots will continue to """"""""debate"""""""" the ratings of your weekly rerun block. Don't you people have lives? Why are you out there drawing comics like GODa?

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He will SAVE US!

>>94339723
stop blaming the viewers, OP price went up and it had to be dropped

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Did anyone hear about Sony buying 95% of Funimation this week?

Sony literally owns Aniplex AND Funi now.

Enter the fucking monopoly age

>>94339561
memes becoming reality

>>94339667
DBZ has always been steady, Jojo always causes a drop. it's a fact

>>94339532
>ratings keep doing down
>dragonball cant even a mil
>for all an
>to for
Meme magic isnt always magic.

>>94339682
>given a premium timeslot
>timeslot change was only advertised on Facebook
>the TV promos still said 12:30 until like Friday
>most cable listings still had it at 12:30, so DVRs recorded Tokyo Ghoul instead

>>94339803
then why didn't TG's ratings go up? check mate, jojobrony

>>94339730
FUN FACT: One Punch Man rerun did better than One Piece in terms of ratings

>>94339803
>give premium timeslot to edgy shallow show
>dio memes
>poses
>more poses
>5 minute training montages
jojo was at first liked by /a/ hipsters like 10 years ago then normies thought it was ok
more years pass and everyone forgotten about it

You all praised part 1 to save toonami
Then people said it gets better in part 2
History is repeating itself

>>94339723
Nobody cares bro

>>94339730
Toonami will be long gone before that second season hits

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Why isn't Demarco making the right decisons and only making bad ones?

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>>94339928
just like the shotaxshota fags claiming each arc will save Toonami and it just keeps getting shittier. now they're playing a fucking video game. can't wait til they go kill transgendered ANTS. fucking ANTS!

>>94339990
Gatta admit, yorknew was pretty fucking awesome.

Too bad people bingewatched it on netflix before they took it off

>>94339803
And her come the excuses. Doesn't really help your case that TG didn't go up at all. And by your logic, DVRs would have still been set to catch Kai. You know, the highest rated show on the block. But what's this? Jojo still did terrible? Could it be your shitty memeshow doesn't have any appeal?

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>>94339962
he is part of Christina Miller's plan to bankrupt Cartoon Network

>>94339532
Usually I won't get wrapped up in the doomsaying, but when you are at the stage where new shows and a better timeslot still doesn't stop the ratings from dropping, it's pretty hard to convince anyone the end isn't near

>>94339962
>why does the moron from the memes about killing Toonami keep killing Toonami?
Those memes weren't made just for funsies

>>94340132
They were made for funzies, but the funzies became real

>>94340158
What have we done?

>>94339990
>implying Hunter x Hunter hasn't been holding the block up from collapsing in on itself
Audience retention has been great nearly every week for it.

>>94339532
>IBO S2

Hooooo boy, that's going to go down "well".

>>94340190
Meme magic is a relatively new science that we dont really understand or dont really know if it is real.

school shootings, trump, habbo hotel, motherfucking boats.

Now this.

We just didnt know. or didnt care.

>>94340246
>S1 was a ratings abyss
>Unicorn was an even bigger black hole
>LETS GET S2
Toonami deserved to die with these types of decisions

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Post nice things you like about the trashy mech anime we've watched

>>94340422
Demarco is such a dumbass he pays for both seasons before they air, he's contractually obligated to air it even though IBO sucked (and Unicorn did WORSE)

he really needs to go back to buying anime season by season so we don't get stuck with poor performing trash like TG, IBO, Jojo, etc

But still, no one gives a shit about

>Dudebro's first anime power hour
>English dub of a meme show that even the fans hate
>Hot Topic
>Shotas-R-Us
>Grandpashit anime
>A dub way far behind the original
>Rerun
>Rerun
>Rerun

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>>94340422
You forget who we're dealing with here.

>>94340274
It's a tulpa, or free-range thoughtform.

People believe in something, so it becomes real. The same thing happened with God, demons, and so on. These things exist only because people's thoughts gave them life.

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>>94339532
Oh my good lord I'm legit worried now.

>>94339712
I wasn't here last week, I'm not saying it did well, I'm saying the drop started before Jojo came on

>>94339990

Clearly, it's not a show for you. Also, going by last week's ratings, it actually went UP, albeit by a small amount.

Last week: 1:30a Hunter X Hunter 500 0.25 319
This week: 1:00a Hunter X Hunter 584 0.26 328

HxH, for better or worse, has good retention.

I'm kinda bummed that we get shit Naruto ratings in spite of getting the full OP and some slick animation.

One week is an outlier, two weeks is worrisome, three weeks is a trend. Has streaming really hit the point of being ubiquitous now?

>>94340624
Finally someone that fucking gets it.

>>94340747
ARE YOU GLAD THAT JOJO BOMBED? WELL GET READY TO WATCH IT FOR A YEAR STRAIGHT AND PREPARE FOR THE END OF TOONAMI.

>>94340782
Plus look at this week's 18-49 ratings. Tokyo Ghoul had 320k, while Hunter x Hunter got 328k. That's not the first time it's happened either.

Ohhh fuck. Those are bad. DeMarco is actually retarded

>>94340840

Holy shit, thanks for pointing it out.

>that small contingent that sees how shit TG is, but comes back for HxH before giving the finger to the rest of the block

In hindsight, maybe we should have never grabbed DBZ. I feel bad for Lupin, which is probably the least fitting show on the block since Tenchi GXP.

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>>94339532

>>94339532
>more people came back for jack after titan
... s6 when

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>>94340624
>>Grandpashit anime
Fuck you, Lupin III is great.

>>94339746
Look, all I'm saying is that you guys are faggots with poor taste and One Piece is awesome. I'm not blaming anyone.

>>94339561
fuck you, the ratings will go up when they introduce stands

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Will she come back to save Toonami? Crush adaptation when?

>>94339730
Yeah right.
>>94341442

Wow it's almost as if waiting a week to watch an episode of an anime that aired anywhere between 2-4 years ago at 2 AM is a terrible model in the year 2017. Who could have seen this coming?!?!

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What would people actually watch on Toonami? Some possibilities:

>Baccano!
>Blood Blockade Battlefront
>Mob Psycho 100
>Outlaw Star
>Panty and Stocking
>Shokugeki no Soma
>A second season of Sym-Bionic Titan
>Trigun

What DeMarco will probably air:

>Some random shit from Funimation's catalog that only he and three other people have heard of that massively bombs

>>94341941

If people haven't heard of it, then it might do well. The lesser known it is, the better it does on Toonami. There's probably a few counter examples, but this has held true overall.

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>>94340452
You posted it, Yamagi and Yamagi x Shino was pretty much the only thing I liked about it. Post more, pls.

I also thought most of the girls were shit, the only one I liked was Lafter.

>>94342004
Zegapain on Toonami when? I only ask for current GITS timeslot.

>hey let's get jojo part 3
>cool
>hey let's not advertise it until the week before it airs
>wtf no

>>94340624
>tfw Shotas-R-Us will never be a real store

>>94341941
Random shit that no one has heard of pulls the best ratings

>>94341941
>with how stupid the audience is?
>meme no one cares about, also low on action
>meme that only is noteworthy for being the same author as OPM
>OLD guaranteed ratings abyss
>probably would do ok till after episode 6 where the episodes become unwatchable
>never heard of, probably would recognize the non weebspeak title
>doesn't have that Jack nostalgia factor and would take years to make if it was even possible which it's not
>OLD and a rerun
Congrats, you suggested a bunch of shit that is worse for the block

>>94341941
Sailor Moon Crystal, no meme or genital mutilation
Trigun
Blue Gender
that one anime with magica in the name that looks all cutesy and shit but gets dark super fucking fast
School Days

>>94340813
Anon,I'm not glad about anything either way.

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>>94342319
>OLD guaranteed ratings abyss

Irrelevant. If Akame ga Kill proved anything, it's that big fat cat tats are guaranteed ratings gold.

>just in case i wanna rub out that easy one
I still do this before dates, thank you family guy

>>94342334
Madoka?

>>94341941
Whatever one wants Toonami to pick up
>Tiger and Bunny
>Evangelion 3.33
>Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress
>Shokugeki no Souma
>Kimi no na Wa
>Persona 5: The Animation
>Berserk (Movies, ideally)
>Baccano
>Devilman: Crybaby
>Madoka Magica (for the lulz and greentext)
>No Game No Life

What Toonami will realistically get
>Boku No Hero Academia
>Psycho Pass
>Jojo Part 4
>Boruto
>Fairy Tail
>Black Clover
>Blue Exorcist 2: Electric Boogaloo
>Whatever Sword Art Online bullshit is the pipeline
>Another boring gundam series
>Insert any "flavor of the month" that has memes, and inevitably wanes back into nothingness

Cheers to DeMarco for securing Toonami's gravespot.

>>94342606
>clean your pipes

The same advice was also in There's Something About Mary.

Do you think cutting titan and putting JoJo out front would help or make it worse?

>>94342743
>Blue Exorcist 2
Nah, Hulu has the dub under lock and key.

>>94341442
I barely remember anything about that show, besides the tiddies. Why was she the title character, again?

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>>94342799
Who gives a fuck?

There are thousands of ways to arrange a shit sandwhich, lettuce over tomato doesn't fucking matter when you putting shit in your mouth.

What they need to do is drain the long-running shows and actually try curating the block like they used to. Instead of gettings shows that fans have already watched and are shilling for (those fans wont rewatch anyway), they should try out new shit and be the trailblazers they used to be. Were any Jojofags really suprised when no one wanted to tune in for their show? Have any of you actually watched the english dub of Jojo for fucks sake? Its a bunch of muscely men with goofy accents doing gay ass poses. "BUT WAIT FOR PART 3" MY FUCKING ASS.

>>94342544
Outlaw Star has almost no lewds, though.

>>94342993
Just to nitpick here, the Part 3 dub has no accents.

>>94342799
Sure, putting JoJo in front would help. Help kill the block faster.

And cutting Titan would make no difference, but they're going to rerun it no matter what to get their money's worth out of it.

>>94343074
Anyone know why no Sailor Moon? Classic or Crystal?

That would be a no brainer plus would make for a huge draw to stabilize ratings and shit.

>>94343130
>>94342993
I feel dumb. I am dumb

>>94343160
>stabilize ratings
>by airing a centuries old show with 200 episodes or a shitty modern Toei adaptation with worse animation than Dragon Ball Super
Yeah, Sailor Moon would do wonders for the block.

>>94343160
Classic? Maybe because of the resolution
Crystal? Depends on who dubbed it. Also, I'd mention it's shit, but that hasn't stopped other anime

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Where's YOUR anime block? Huh, faggits?!

>>94343160
Crystal pretty much was DOA worldwide due to it's horrific first season. S2 and S3 were a bit better in terms of quality/response but S1 left a horrible taste in everyone's mouth and made the show radioactive.

Also, the Viz OG Sailor Moon dub lacks the good shit from the DIC dub (music, voice acting, plus superior Luna, Raye, Lita, and Zoycite). And you need Superior DIC Dub Raye to get through the bulk of the first season filler.

Does Toonami general like anything?

>>94343274
No one gives a shit about Tsundre Rei or Brookyn Rage Makota or Elderly Granny Luna

>>94343200
its alright bro

>>94343282
Yes. I just wish they aired something better than stale ass Dragon Ball, like Fairy Tail.

>>94343282
I like have good anime's to watch so the generals can be fun. But because DeMarco is a completionist and "good anime" isn't in his vocabulary we have to suffer eternal.

>>94343282
Yeah, we like slice of life and shows with cute girls doing cute things. Exactly the things that would make Toonami great again.

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>>94343074
By lewds, you mean porn? Doesn't matter,
Aisha is, herself, lewd.

>>94343160
Why do you retards keep suggesting nostalgiabait when it's proven if it's not DBZ it's a ratings pit? Thankfully Hulu has both for a long time so it's never coming

>>94343282
I wish for more obscure shit really, shit nobody or atleast no everyone has hear, threads were fun with akame ga kill , parasyte and dimmension w

Why do they still have Naruto on this fucking block?
Naruto is so popular that there is literally nobody who enjoys Naruto that has not seen the whole series either by watching it or reading it at this point.

It being here appeals to noone and they are simply doing it for Toonami legacy's sake.

>>94343200
Now if only we could get DeMarco to admit as much.

>>94343282
>liking stuff

>>94343458
What the fuck do you think is the reason people watch DBZ and DBS in 2017? I can tell you as a former fanboy of Z, it's not because the series was a flawless masterpiece of anime. It's nostalgia. Hell, Super should be doing better, in theory, but the numbers it's pulling are just kinda there. Not really impressive, but not bad either.

We are not going to make it to 2018 at this rate.

>>94339532
Good riddance

>>94343590
No one has nostalgia for Sailor Moon. It's only remembered because it's aired near DBZ

>>94343466
Holding pattern until they can get Boruto on?

>>94343466
Isn't it DeMarco's favorite show or something?

>>94343663
This block won't last long enough for Boruto to have a reasonable amount of episodes to air without burning them out in three months.

>>94343722
Wasn't One Piece also his favorite show?

>>94343744
Says a lot about the man. Why does DeMarco have such shit taste?

>>94343160
>no brainer
No
No more no brainers
All the no brainers end up fucking up unless they are named Dragonball
We need to stop having shows that everyone has seen already. Dimension W is a perfect guideline for what Toonami needs.

A lot of the time when a couple shows are really popular they will sometimes take attention away from other shows that people could potentially all eat up if they were being exposed to it more. That's what Dimension W was and Demacro needs to scout out those shows more.

Lupin is an alright attempt but Lupin has the same problem as Gundam in that it's a fucking old franchise and people are immediately turned off by things that seem too big for them to grasp.

>>94340084
TTG on Toonami when?

>>94343651
You must have never watched prime weekday Toonami.

Sailor Moon was a god-damn ratings juggernaut and made Cartoon Network so much fucking money within a couple of months, ratings-wise, that they had to cash to not only BUY exclusive rights to the first two seasons of DBZ, but also pay Funimation the money needed to revive the dub.

You guys have been saying Toonami is on its deathbed for three years straight now, it's getting really old hearing the same schpiel over and over

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It's ded more or less for me enjoyment wise, but it's easy to root for an underdog. Now it just feels old and busted.

Was fun and nostalgic in the beginning, block was scrappy and every show announcement was a surprise.

It peaked in enjoyability with Space Dandy for me, kind of a last hurrah. After that got replaced by Attack on Titan and DBZ returned there was a slow trickling of complacency into the packaging and pickups. The packaging feels stale now despite looking nice, Ratings troubles are likely a lot of different issues so I won't get into that.

I only care at this point cause I want more original programming like Samurai Jack, but I don't think it's happening after FLCL2&3 at this rate. Even that looks bland and is a bad idea to me as a FLCL fan but I'm giving it a shot.

I think Toonami dying is my fault.

Ever since I have been becoming more aware of my life as a TV show I think you all know by now that every job application I have been filling out for the past 6 years always has "not available" on sunday morning (working days) or saturday night (working nights)

And thats it, I.. slowly killed Toonami over the years. By wanting to watch Toonami.

>>94344509
Yea, but this is that time of day where the broken clock is right

>>94344509
We only keep saying it so we aren't shocked when it finally happens.

>>94344831
>>94344842
Then redpill me on how high the ratings need to be to "stay alive" and a gameplan to make it happen. A REAL gameplan, not "wipe the whole block, buy a bunch of random shows and throw them at the wall to see what sticks" because all that would do is instantly bankrupt the team.

>>94344782
>I think Toonami dying is my fault
*An audience member coughs as a tenseness hangs in the air, while the rest of the studio is unsure if this is leading to a serious or comedic moment*
>Ever since I have been becoming more aware of my life as a TV show
*The tenseness breaks with a brief bit of chuckling at the fourth wall break*
> I think you all know by now that every job application I have been filling out for the past 6 years
*The audience begins to snicker, anticipating what's to come*
>always has "not available" on sunday morning (working days)
*One audience member laughs prematurely, while those around him shush him as they hang on with baited breath*
>or saturday night (working nights)
*The audience is on the edge of their seats*
>And thats it, I...
*The audience hangs on his every word*
>slowly killed Toonami over the years.
*At this point, the audience erupts in a symphony of laughter and applause, so loud that it shakes the very foundation of the studio and can be heard far across the studio lot*
>By wanting to watch Toonami.
*The audience is in hysterics, barely able to breath. The director is shedding a tear, while the script writers are pumping their fists in the air in celebration. The other cast members in Anonymous's show are popping open a bottle of champagne and shooting off confetti guns, while the network executives approach the stage with a bouquet of flowers for Anonymous in honor of this crowning moment of television history. "I slowly killed Toonami" soon becomes a household phrase, the kind that brightens up a room every time it is heard for years to come*

>>94345026
I remember this from /v/

>>94344875
I don't know where the ratings need to be, but it's fairly obvious from the weekly schedule changes in July, where they are at is not acceptable.

And you bring up the main issue. You want a solution, but there isn't one. No one show can fix this, and as you said, revamping the whole lineup bankrupts the block and probably kills it anyway as well. Demarco signed Toonami up for death over a year ago when he got HxH and committed himself to a year of cramming the block full of long runners. They tried to undo the damage by dropping OP and also Jojo temporarily, but the damage had been done. Toonami is done, the only thing left for 2017 is fucking Gundam, which we already know is ratings cancer.

MAYBE, when we inevitably see a significant cut this year, that panic will boost ratings. But that would only be temporary.

>>94344875
Yea here's a game plan, go back about two years and tell Demarco not to pick up all this dogshit

Problem with Toonami is a couple of reasons but mainly making it a once a night thing is the biggest.

When Toonami ran five days a week, long running shows got done way quicker and there was a lot more variety along with the staples.

You could invest more in a show watching it every day, whereas by doing one episode a night, you can get bored and stream it or download it or buy the DVD.

Daily Toonami was an event. Every day a new show, a new adventure. Or rediscovering an old classic from the very beginning.

Once a week hurts it incredibly. Especially for long runners.

>>94345166
problem with that is you burn through shows like that. still on namek might be a meme now but itll be over in like a week or two when its showing 10 episodes a week

>>94345114
>>94345153
>>94345166
Honestly, even if Toonami does "die" again, I don't see them getting rid of the label like last time.
It'll be reduced to 2 hours, only airing Dragonball, Naruto, and 2 other shows regularly swapped out from their catalog (maybe a new show once every year or so), and they'll just air stock Toonami bumpers instead of constantly making new stuff. Which sucks, granted, but at this point I don't give a fuck anymore. FLCL 2-3 will still air regardless if the block lives or dies, and that's all I really care about.

>>94345166
>long running shows got done way quicker
Not really? The way Daily Toonami used to air long runners, you'd get somewhere between 40-60 new episodes, air those across two or three months, and then rerun those same episodes over and over for the next year until the next batch of episodes. It essentially took the same amount of time as airing it once a week, you just didn't notice because you essentially got them in a "bomb" format (to use modern CN terminology).

It'd be great in the short term, but those fucking droughts man.

Has anyone kept track of when the ratings shift started? There used to be multiple shows getting millions.

>>94345245
That's a good point that I thougth about a while ago, I think that Toonami will live on in some incarnation. When [as] just mentioned that Toonami will come back the ratings had spiked abnormally when ASA transitioned to Toonami.

As you said what most likely will happen is that the block will get chopped down more and more into maybe a small 2 hour even.

>>94345425
Some guy made a .csv table you can look at on github. https://github.com/FOSSforlife/toonami_ratings

Check it out, if there are any statisticians or whatever they should interpret this shit for us.

>>94345245
May as well be dead outright at that point

>>94345425
About September 2016 is when things started to trend down and never go up

>>94345496
There are a lot of "might as well be"s in life. Doesn't mean it's not an option

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>people hate KLK because it is popular
>doing better than jojo

>>94341941
Another original series? Titmouse actually expressed interest in working on something for them.

>>94345753
It's the ironic weeb audience inflating its numbers.

>>94345816
Is your Stand: Damage Control or something?

Let's be real, the ratings drop is nothing to do with taste but it's the fact that streaming sites like Crunchyroll and Netflix are appealing to normies more than ever. Instead of watching their Cowboy Bebops and JoJo's on a certain date at a certain time like back in 00's, tech has advanced to the point where anime can be watched anytime and even on phones, so we're left with even fewer reasons to tune in.

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>>94339561

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Uh, I guess it's a good thing that not too many people were turned off by the Shippuden episode?

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>yfw Twitch had a better schedule

>>94346238
Why hasn't Demarco picked up Maid Dragon yet?

>>94346238
Any idea what viewership was like for each show? I'm curious which shows did better than others.

>>94346277
I only caught on the Kemono Friends stream which had 14,000

It was fun and ridiculous with the crying in the last two episodes

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>>94343463
This. In a better world, NuToonami would be bringing obscure shows to the masses just like it used to.

>>94346238
>all that loli, yuri and fujobait
God please no.

>>94346277
I know Kemono Friends eventually settled around 14,000, Re:Life about 18,000, I think some of the action stuff like Mob Psycho and Bungo got up to the 24,000ish range. I think Luluco might have been around 20,000 as well but I didn't get to catch much of the others.

It was kind of dependent on the time of day

>>94346398
Appealing to different audiences rather than just laser targeting a single demographic is a good thing though

>>94346238
First showing of Mob Psycho and Dragon Maid did the best I believe with 30,000+. Yuri on Ice first showing fluctuated between and 20 - 25k throughout. Tanya went above 20k somewhere I think. Lowest count I saw was Joker Game sinking to 12,000+. That's what I remember.

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>>94346238
Marshmallow and Wooser were surprise hits

>>94341442
This show did the best out of any show in the adult swim toonami block?

>>94339571
>Senpai Guy under a million

Seems like ratings are shit across the board

>>94346852
It's the current record holder for highest premiere ratings and holds multiple spots in the top ten highest Toonami ratings. And judging by the pitiful state the block is in now, it will never lose that title

>>94347119
Wow, are there shows similar to this one? I don't understand why they don't stockpile on that instead of long running shounen.

>>94339730
This

>>94343379
I wish we could have more good anime, but anything that's not HD is automatically out of the pool. Toonami has a lot of restrictions.

FLCL 2 & 3 will be the last hurrah, I hope it isn't as disappointing as season 5 Jack.

>>94342935
The franchise is based around her.

>>94346238
>>94346277
Depended on time of day mostly. Dragon Maid was around 29,000 when i tuned in for a bit, while even lesser garbage like Akashic Records pulled 22,000-24,000

>>94343160
Hulu is the official distribution platform for Sailor Moon in North America

Can anything save toonami at this point?
Boku no Hero's popular now, they should air that. The dub's up to season 2

>>94342935
Because in modern light novels/manga/anime, the worst girl is always the main girl. Might as well go the full way by making her the title character too.

Well, this is the end, beautiful friends. After more than 11 years, this is Toonami's final broadcast. It's been a lot of fun, and we'd like to thank each and every one of you who made this journey with us. Toonami wouldn't have been anything without you. Hopefully we've left you with some good memories. So, until we meet again, Stay Gold............ Bang.

>>94349545
Get out of here, Esdeath.

>>94349657
but Esdese was best girl

>>94349029
Well it didn't really feel like the show was based around her, but again, I don't remember it that well.

>>94349545
I didn't think she was that bad, I actually kind of liked her. Her sister as well, I think she was the cookie girl, and of course, Leone. But worst girl was definitely Mine.

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>>94339561
Where you belong:
>>>/trash/

>>94349588
>by the time Toonami's canceled for a second time, they're all so checked out and don't give a fuck that they just play this again

>>94339762
Sony Pictures won't exist in two years.

>>94349764
Yeah, she gets shafted in the show in favor of Tatsumi. She was wasted considering the themes built around her

>>94349989
Yeah that sounds about right. Tatsumi wasn't that interesting, even if he was cute, and Esdeath being thirsty for him, while somewhat amusing and hot, wasn't really enough to make up for that.

>Adult Swim Saturday
11:30: DBZ Kai - 721,000

>Adult Swim Sunday
11:30: Rick and Morty - 2,860,000

Really makes you think...

>>94339571
Pretty much everything did bad that night. Not just Rick and Morty. It's been doing pretty decently in reruns as of late.

So, how long until block is kill?

>>94350963
next week

>>94350983
Cool

>>94344875

Toonami works at its absolute best when it's a vehicle for more obscure shows as opposed to going fervently after FOTMs. During the first two years, we had a way more eclectic block and thread engagement was high, ratings were high (relative to other Saturday night shows).

>>94345114 is right in the sense that while I enjoy the show and there are some folks who had never seen it beginning to enjoy it, picking up HxH when they did was a bad move, becuase before hitting Yorkshin, roughly half the block was long runners. Dropping OP was a solution, but one implemented way too late because the reputation of being stacked with long-runners had been stuck to the block by then.

A realistic solution (which they can't implement until 2019 at least) is to have two long runners and every slot up until 3am have short shows that get rotated out. We're stuck with Super and Naruto pretty much indefinitely, but this is the surest way. Of course, all of this hinges on surviving for another year and a half.

We need more Space Dandy

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>>94351372
It's never coming back, anon.

>>94351524
:(

>>94346238
Twitch has taste

>>94339571
>>94339592
So why does Brick and Mortar get to always stick around? Its 3rd season is finally airing, so theres no need for the fucking reruns after a whole month of reruns and a marathon leading in. seems best to just replace it with an hour of American Dad or more Family Guy

>>94346238
It would be kinda fun to watch Rokka with toonami general.

>>94354060
AS is stretched too thin on FG/AD right now. They probably figure a Reddit and meme rerun is less of waste since all of Saturday is kill

Why did you guys let Demarco kill Toonami?

>>94354682
There was no stopping him. He does whatever he feels like and we're forced to deal with it.

So why do people think they aren't gonna finish GitS?

>>94354883
Because Demarco said they had an announcement they had to sit on a few weeks ago at a con, and now that GitS is at 2am it wouldn't be wrong to have a new show there. Plus the schedule is blank 2 weeks from now when GitS first season ends.

That said, I don't think they will actually get something good. They will probably pull some bullshit like HD Bebop and try to pass that off as something new

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>>94351524

Pic related

>>94342993
I'm a bit flabbergasted about this, too. Simuldub premieres for new shows seems like the way to go for Toonami. Is it just too difficult to arrange stuff like they did for Space Dandy?

>>94354242
They just need to give up on the 8:30 - 9:30 hour. It will always get crap ratings no matter what.

So its official, Rick and Morty needs to be on Toonami

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>Trump becomes president
>DeMarco knows we're shitlords because he lurks the threads
>his spineless attempt at revenge on us poopyhead racists is to slowly destroyed Toonami

Sad!

>>94354930
>be company looking to sell the premiere rights to your new show
>should we sell to one of these countless stream services?
>or should we sell to th dying anime block that airs in the middle of the night once a week and pray the moron in charge doesn't fuck our show halfway through?

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>>94355242
But Demarco was the one who insisted I activate my trump card

>>94354930
Space Dandy was always a fluke that only worked because Watanabe is a westaboo. A dub premiere same-day with Japan is the kind of thing they have to arrange while a show is still in pre-production so it can happen. Even Dimension W, a show co-produced by Funimation, had to air a few weeks behind Japan.

>>94355496
DEMARCOOOOOOO

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>Funds two unneeded seasons of FLCL.
>Didn't fund a new season of DMWL when it was hot off the presses in the states.

>>94356687
I don't know why FLCL is getting two seasons when it ended just fine like a decade ago.

>>94357300
Nostalgia is hot right now.
What I wanna know is if they'll end Toonami right after FLCL, or maybe even cancel Toonami before then and make it a regular Adult Swim premiere.

>>94357407
Is their AS block really doing any better outside of Family Guy?

>>94357521
Reddit and Meme pulled 2.8mil viewers Sunday. So yea, significantly. Shit, even Decker: Mindwipe pulled 1.1mil

>>94357407
>Nostalgia is hot right now.

Which begs the question of when they will launch a classic AS block

>>94357923
You mean with mutated TOM1 merged with Sarah showing shit like original dragonball, sailor moon classic and probably other stuff like yuyu hakasho?

>>94358121
>original dragonball
unless they kai that shit up I dont want a literal month long fight scene with king piccolo or a week dedicated of Grandpa Gohan slamming Goku in the ground by his tail

>>94358121
That and classic as originals too

Bring back oldschool fridays where it's older AS originals from 11:00 - 12:30, older action programs from 12:30 - 2:00, and then random old black and white cartoons from 2:00 - 3:00, before going back to the regular schedule

>>94358542
?!

HOME MOVIES?!

>>94358603
What about it?

>>94358542
Why do people still suggest things like this when AS has tried it time and time again only for it to be a huge disaster?

11:00 - 11:30 - Super and Kai
12:00 - My Hero Academia
12:30 - Fairy Tail
1:00 - Bakuman
1:30 - Hunter Hunter
2:00 - Soma
2:30 - Tokyo Fool
3:00 - Nurdo Shitpudden
3:30 - Little Witch Academia

Oh look I saved Toonami, thank me later

>>94358875
>Why do people still suggest things like this when AS has tried it time and time again only for it to be a huge disaster?
The only time they had a dedicated oldschool block was a decade ago. Times have changed. Nostalgia is in.

>>94358884
Switch Fairy Tail around with LWA and we have a deal.

>>94358928
Oh wow I didnt realize that AS nostalgia block on Sunday was a decade ago

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>>94343651
>No one has nostalgia for Sailor Moon
I have issues with Sailor Moon, but even I know this is complete bullshit.

>>94359119
If you're talking about the one from a few months ago, I don't even count that because it was so half assed and quite obviously set up to fail. It was literally a single hour of programming in the 8 PM dead zone when only FOX rerun normies are tuned in and using the fucking Brak show as the lead in. Not to mention that when the original Oldschool Fridays aired the shows were only 5 years old, now they're over 15 and much more at odds with the popular perception of Adult Swim in the mainstream.


It would have worked out better if they had, 1), bothered to do the slightest bit of promo either on social media or with bumps like they did with Oldschool Fridays, 2) didn't start out with the one of the oldest and most dated and irritating AS original, and 3), aired it later in the night when stoners, more hardcore and older AS fans are watching. That last one is why shit like Moral Orel at 1:15 this whole past week or random Tim and Eric shows at 4 AM bested the whole Toonami block sans Super in the ratings.

>>94358884

Little Witch Academia should be on earlier since it skews younger.

Bakuman doesn't have enough action and would likely cause a drop in the middle of the lineup.

>>94359343
>giving a serious response to an obvious shitpost

>>94359298
Whoever greenlighted that was retarded. Surely they know by now that every fucking non Fox show they try to use to start the block has failed. Even fucking Aqua Teen. They don't even show then first two seasons of King of the Hill anymore because the animation and tone is too rough, but somehow they thought that limited jerky Flash animation and weird jokes from the year 2000 would go over well?

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I know how to fix the ratings. Shame Demarco is an idiot who hates good shows

Adult Swim has fallen into a slump over all, but strangely enough, it's the early hours that are doing the worst in general, especially KOTH . The 8 PM King of the Hill has been barely hitting 500,000, the 8:30 American Dad getting around 600,000 - 750,000, 9:00 PM Cleveland between 600,000 - 800,000 (often slightly lower than AD), and 9:30 PM American Dad around 900,000. It's only at the 10 PM Bob's Burgers hour that we actually begin to hit the 1 million mark and the 11 PM Family Guy peaking at close to 2 million.

KOTH is clearly the weak link in the start of the block and Cleveland at times either gains because of the timeslot having more viewers in general but often literally loses viewers from AD. Back when it was after KOTH a few months ago, it was bleeding viewers like crazy and the 9:00 American Dad would start off with like 500,000 viewers simply because people weren't interesting in seeing KOTH and even less Cleveland..

>>94359931
Remember the days when Family Guy episodes would top out at over 3 million? When Adult Swim had over 100 telecasts a week (ie. individual programs) breaking the 1 million viewers, sometimes staying over that line for the entire night?

What if..

the internet

AS is constantly saying hey look at our streams and what if like

like

people are watching the streams and the old rating system is like

IM NOT JOJO DAMAGE CONTROL FUCK YOU

>>94360200
Or maybe Toonami shouldn't have shill those crunchyroll commercials in the past

>>94358603
As far as non FOX shows that AS has experimented with airing in the pre-11 hours on weekends, Home Movies fell somewhere in the middle in terms of ratings relative to average for that timeslot. The worst ones without a doubt would have to the recent Venture Bros. attempt, followed by The Brak Show, then One Piece, then Check it Out. The highest would obviously be Super, then Kai, then probably a tie between The Oblongs and the current airing cycle of Rick and Morty.

>>94339561
Anyone who wanted to has already seen Jojo. Face it Toonami got a lot of people into anime but when it left all those kids learned to get anime else where. We don't need Toonami, we just like it being here.

I miss One Piece Fag already.

>Sony is buying Funimation
Wow maybe they won't stingy anymore

>>94358884

>seriously considering No Stakes & The Power of Friendship: The Show

But why?

>>94361637
didnt they sell off their online entertainment branch to save the company?

>>94361637
>>94361675
and dont they have their own online streaming TV Vuu thing with the egg frier thing they sell?

>>94361637
>all current funi shows are now playstation only

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Why do these threads get worse as /co/ gets worse? I don't even remember last Saturday's threads

>>94361637
That's not the big issue with that. The big one is that while Funimation has been the undisputed dub and physical release king (Sentai still releases more products annually overall, or at least they did a few years ago) their streaming efforts haven't panned out. Funimation Now isn't that big, and their efforts to retool and push the service haven't seemed to yield a whole lot of buzz.

They partnered with Crunchyroll because CR wanted to dub and release some shows on home video, while Funimation wanted to have their shows on a wider platform. It was beneficial to both of them, but with Sony buying them there's concern that they'll break their partnership and merge Funimation Now into Crackle which would be a disaster.

>>94345425
Really started to dive when One Piece was taken off.

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>>94339532
The peak rating in the 18 - 49 demographic for Toonami was a .39 and the lowest was a .17. That's embarrassing.

Fucking reruns of Home Movies at 4 AM on a Tuesday do better than that.

demarco liked this tweet, what does it mean?:
https://twitter.com/dril/status/892825482814771203
"i often disagree with DigimonOtis, but his efforts to keep Sharia Law out of the donkey kong 64 wiki are much needed in this wolrd of danger"

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Fear the day this comes on Toonami.

>>94361798
/co/ always sucked but these threads were ok. As the quality of the block went down these threads meshed up with /co/ quality

>>94362706
Waifu game looks good at least

>>94362970
>General thread becomes a crappy cesspool
Stop the presses.

Char and Shampoo avatarfagging/RPing all the early threads should have been the first red flag

>>94363061
Hey I had a little hope when they both got ousted. Seemed like that shit wouldn't be tolerated

>>94363061
Char at least contributed OC. Wish I still had the Tiffany Grant vocaroo saved.

>>94363818
>1 piece of OC in exchange for 99 pieces of cancer
Good riddance

>>94359931
Makes you wonder if the problem doesn't just lie with [AS] and not just Toonami.

Because at some point, reruns are just not going to cut it. That combined with Toonami's asinine schedule decisions of its own makes me wonder if [AS] as a whole won't see a severe decline over the next few years.

>>94364676
AS is down 30% viewership this year alone. The issue with Toonami is the license prices aren't going down with the ratings. So it will just be easier to can it

>>94364676
It already has. The highest rated program last Saturday was a Family Guy with 914,000 viewers. The highest rated program on Saturday exactly two years earlier was a Family Guy with 3 million viewers.

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Are you ready for the second season of the Anime thats called by literally everyone sans 4chan the rebirth of Gundam, the best Gundam in years, winner of Japanese polls for the best Anime of 2016, sold a fuckton of toys, sold more than 500 overpriced tickets for The Last Flag event that aired the last episode, whose MC ended up getting 7 place as the most popular Gundam protagonist ever,(even tho he barely had any personality at all),whose characters are still popular enough to appear on Japanese magazines and to this day still sell T-shirts and overpriced Coffee with a gay couple on them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8tHqYrzf34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8tHqYrzf34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8tHqYrzf34

>>94365382
Yea, can't wait for it to pull sub 500k ratings and bore everyone to death

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>>94365382
I am ready for Barbatos to get tricked out.

>>94365382
Who even likes gundam? It's just so boring

>>94350437
Wow, its almost like advertising out the ass can really make a difference instead of one weeks notice

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>>94365382
Im looking foward to the best autistic love story ever told and mommy Atra
>>94365680
Toonami is dying, not much we can do about it

>>94364877
Yes, it would be, but that also doesn't solve the bigger issue of the fact that people are finally getting tired of the trinity of KoTH, R&M and FG after endless reruns. The second especially since it's rerunning the same 26 episodes at least twice every Saturday.

Unless [AS} can shake things up by alter the schedule (which they probably wont). I doubt neither they or Toonami would survive past this decade.

>>94366076
Well, we could have started by not picking up another Gundam knowing it's a ratings pit

>>94366079
>
Unless [AS} can shake things up by alter the schedule (which they probably wont). I doubt neither they or Toonami would survive past this decade.

They really need too. The only mandatory Fox shows at this point are the double FG, BB and maybe one American Dad per night. Just diversify.

An easy change would be do what Nick and MTV did and make a nostalgia pandering block for old AS shows and maybe some cartoon network/mgm classics (since Boomerang is essentially defunct now and just the same thing as Cartoon Network) and then promote it a shit ton so people actually know about it.

>>94366279
yeah, Gundam had its chance back in the day, squandered its momentum, and faded into obscurity. Why bother now

>>94366079
>tfw AS won't even make it to 2021
>no all night Sealab marathon on New Years
:(

>>94365221
>The highest rated program last Saturday was a Family Guy with 914,000 viewers. The highest rated program on Saturday exactly two years earlier was a Family Guy with 3 million viewers.
wew lad

>>94365221
What will cable companies do when it all collapses?

>>94341189
I'm not finished writing the script fucker.

>>94368079
Cable companies will be fine, it's the networks who are struggling to survive as more people pull the plug. Because networks survive selling advertisement space but the less viewership you have the less you can charge for advertisement, and I remember reading that many advertisers have pulled out of cable networks because the prices aren't going down even as viewership slides. But cable companies are huge national Telecoms that also provide internet services, so they're not going to go away.

>>94369414
That's a shame. They really have a vicehold on my balls either way.

>>94369493
>They really have a vicehold on my balls either way.
That's why they aren't going anywhere. Cable networks have basically zero hold on anybody, entertainment is a brutally competitive industry because you're fighting not only other entertainment services but also the attention spans of your audience. Two-front battle there.

Sad

I dont want Toonami to die.

>>94370996
But it will.

> half the posts in the thread are all variants on "Toonami is going to die"

post about something else already

>>94371272
That's what this thread is for though.

>>94371272
>>94371591
TV is going to die, pick up your HD TV with Netflix, Hulu, Amazon and Youtube preinstalled today.

>>94346277
These were the numbers at the end of the shows I stuck around to watch beginning to end.
ReLIFE 18k
Kemono Friends 14k
New Game 16k
Wooser 13k
World End 16k

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>>94365724
I feel like I'm the only guy who likes the beastly additions.

Even so, it's not worth slogging through S2 for.