JSA Storytime: Mr. X

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>>94284336

Jesus christ is it Sunday already.

>>94284343
Ooh cool.

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>>94284355
I know, right?

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>>94284364
It's so hot. I meant to go outside and work with some wood stain, but ugh.

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>>94284393
This kind of skewed perspective drawing isn't easy, is it

>>94284419
Likely not.

But getting vertigo.

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>>94284419

>>94284336
Hello, Storyteller.

>Brian Hitch: "I could totally Ultimates that shit"
I assume you were in that thread, but can we talk about this and how fuck stupid the idea of Ultimates style JSA is? Like, holy shit.

I don't know why I still play it, but Livewire in the DC mobile game is op af

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>>94284443
>>94284428
don't look down, Dave

>>94284458
I mean it's sort of what Robinson intended on doing with E2. Would have liked to see it through, but I don't need another attempt so soon especially not for a main universe version.

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>>94284458
I didn't see that

do not want

>>94284458
>>94284502
The bad thing is, he said that back in February and only recently teased he was maybe doing some JSA thing.

>>94284419
it's disorienting but already easier to follow than the last volume

>>94284458
Like I said in that thread:

The last time Hitch tried to Ultimates by himself he didn't even finish the fucking series.

And he thinks Josh Trank is a good director.

>>94284336
Too much /pol/ bait is really turning me off of /co/. It has really gotten worse this summer.

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>>94284499
The Ultimates thing we really don't need is the "I am so cool wait no I'm actually dated as fuck" widescreen action with lots of splash pages of people 'fighting'

>>94284458
I just want Hitch to go on Earth 2.

Main JSA will be safe from being edgy, blown up, being in a terrible relationship, having the world end, and having to do terrible time travel.

>>94284548
Grundy is the result of a supersoldier serum that Jay Garrick was developing.

I can go on.

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>>94284528
it's stylized but it's SO much less busy and "who are these randos on the page"

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>>94284578

>>94284528
I completely lost the plot in v1 and was just looking at the pretty pictures, at least here it's relatively straightforward, even if B&W art is a little harder to parse

>>94284458
I mean, did Hitch even READ Earth-2? That's almost literally exactly what it was, and it managed to do it without filling it with asshole characters, rape, gore, and really stupid early-2000's style "realistic" versions of character powers.

And it even went into the exact same direction that the Ultimate U did with being overly destructive, stories becoming even more convoluted than the main universe, and all of the characters working for the same government agency!

>>94284534
It's going to continue getting worse forever, as per the old "any community that gets its kicks by yada yada yada" quote.

>>94284534
At this point I would allow one shitstorm thread then delete any extras that show up even close to the same theme.

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>>94284631
heavy modding can actually change the direction of a community back to where it needs lighter policing. Even b-day worked for a little while.

Here's Hitch's idea of Ultimates:

We all know how Millar is - but there's the moment in Ultimates 1 where Tony decides to buck up and try to save the day because some random kid on the street believes in him....and all on his own Hitch added a bit where a soldier pushes that kid down for fun.

>>94284534
It's the way the whole site is. You definitely notice an uptick with any movie news.

>>94284668
I don't see that happening with hiro/current 4chan.

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>>94284668
>>94284687
they got some janitors, right?

>>94284502
Right? It's such a terrible idea. Why can't Hitch just stick to being mediocre? Why's he gotta overstep his bounds into being terrible?

Like, just imagine like Jay or someone being racist and jingoistic because "lol realism". Fucking hell.

>>94284565
Please do.

>>94284364
>>94284393
>>94284419
I don't think it was the intention here but these pages almost feel like they're meant to transition from the abstract style in the rest of this volume to the more literal but still stylish art in this issue.


>>94284548
>>94284578
And I get kind of a Frank Miller vibe from these.

>>94284687
>It's the way the whole site is.
/a/ is not like that, seriously. It's like the only board where mods take their job seriously.

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>>94284734
just, clear paneling, it's such a change

also love the roman numeral pagination

>>94284697
>they got some janitors, right?
lol

>>94284740
/tg/ and niche interest boards aren't either but I mean, look at what happened to /tv/.

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>>94284759
>>94284763
;____;

>>94284697
You can have all the janitors in the world but they're still basically just cleaning the bile as it hits the ground, the people vomiting everywhere are still there and have no reason to stop.

>>94284718
I can't top Jay being Racist from here >>94284711
without going into harder territory about Obsidian...too much horrible possibilities.

I think what Hitch meant in that tweet is update the team on aesthetic level more so than narrative level, so it feels more contemporary. And considering the direction of Rebland, that shit was really blown out of proportion.
I shouldn't have made that thread lol.

>>94284792
It really is more that "I do not read comics at all but look at this shit" threads get kept up. But /co/ has always been a mess between comics, cartoons, live action, movies etc. Anyway, I think it's a bit rich to complain about moderation when we're all still posting (AND IT'S AGAINST 4CHAN RULES GUYS) but I agree threads seem to continually get shittier.

>>94284697
Jannys are useless.

>>94284821
>update the team on aesthetic level
Blergh. No pimp-cape Alan, no buy

>>94284821
Hitch is a terrible writer, plotter, and now artist since he's been half assing it or died at some point, so even a normal JSA run written (or drawn) by him doesn't inspire much confidence with me.

>>94284685
Are you saying... we might go beyond even Taylor levels?

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>>94284838
They should make the change they want to see :(

>>94284792
You'll still have the hardcore trolls but more casual people give up when shit just keeps getting patiently nuked, no response, no acknowledgement, just nuking

>>94284763
>tg/ and niche interest boards aren't either
Yeah, I browse /lit/ a lot and there are always one or two stupid thread but the board itself is pretty comfy. Then again people there are not literally underage and more worried about astounding other anon with their sophisticated sounding bullshit.

>>94284534
Is this about the Wonder Woman thread were the OP is pissy that a franchise initially created to address sociopolitical issues had the sheer fucking gall to to reference sociopolitical issues?

i can't get over /co/''s hateboner for marvel'll progressiveism.

yet also hating secret empire

>>94284876
>They should make the change they want to see :(
They do, because jannys are only interested on abusing power.

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>>94284886
>more worried about astounding other anon with their sophisticated sounding bullshit.
that's the proper function of any literary discussion

>>94284886
sounds like what comic threads used to be like

I'll just be bitter and blame the MCU casuals

>>94284886
All I know about /lit/ is back in the day Quentin tried trolling there like he had been doing on /v/ and most major boards and they laughed him out for trying to say The Great Gatsby was the greatest novel ever written.

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>>94284910
I've been most amused by people taking Soule's "if you're abusive to Marvel staff don't expect to get hired" out of its specific context about someone posting shit about a female editor in response to a selfie and using it to get buttmad about how they're clearly not hired by Marvel yet because of their righteous battles with Dan Slott

>>94284855
I think if DC does want to put him on monthly, they'll do what Marvel did during his Fantastic Four runs.
Also the problem with Hitch is he doesn't get good inkers anymore, and since Kevin Nowlan is inking him on Hawkman Found, I have hopes.

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>>94284960

>>94284960

goddamn what a shit show that stuff was huh

>>94284336
yet another impressive cover

>>94284966
Speaking of Hawkman...some five year old told me today that Hawkman was their favorite superhero, over Cyborg or Batman.

Is he in Justice League Action?
Where would he know Hawkman?

>>94284887
That, and that "gay propaganda" thread and that "Marvel editors harassed" thread. And probably some more threads that I've hidden or have been filtered.

>>94284458
make them interesting for the first time ever
what's wrong with that?

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>>94284994
I've only seen a bit of it because no one would link to the fucking wank and I'm sorry, vague upset subtweets don't cut it, if I'm supposed to get mad I need to see something myself

>>94285001
There's a DC Super Pets book starring the Hawks, maybe?

>>94284618
>did someone read Earth-2
no anon, the answer is no

>>94284463
I'm still a noob (which means playing for four months because it's grindy as fuck) but I have resigned to only being able to get her to legendary 2. I don't exactly have a good team comp for that challenge.

>>94284910
>that's the proper function of any literary discussion
Bullshit. I want to talk about how Kel is best girl, but all I ever see when I go to /lit/ is a piss filled lake of fedora tipping armchair philosophers.

>>94284836
The fact complaining about moderation, or lack there of, is against the rules is frankly fucking pathetic.

I gotta put up with legit hate speech on a constant basis, but mods can't take people saying mean things about them? Fucking grow a pair, ya simps.

>>94284886
There are some threads on /lit/ that are completely unbearable but I admit, no matter how obscure we're talking, someone has read it.

>>94285001
Maybe he has good parents that let him Netflix and chill on Justice League/Justice League Unlimited.
Honestly kids that age probably are more attracted to cool designs and his parents got him a Justice League set or something.

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>>94285111
man, I need to drop by, then

>>94285109
>I gotta put up with legit hate speech on a constant basis
That's pretty much always been a constant on 4chan.

>>94285126
>Justice League/Justice League Unlimited.

For Hawkman?

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>>94285128

>>94285001
He is, but I don't think there's been a Hawk-centric episode yet. Also his design sucks

>>94285111
This, I read two obscure sci-fi novels couple months ago and I only found discussion on /lit/ about them.
Also they do have good taste for the most part when it comes to classic literature.

>>94285126
my 4 year old niece loves Firestorm because of JLA

>>94285056
>There's a DC Super Pets book starring the Hawks, maybe?
Imagine something with Krypto, Ace, Comet (but not the weird Comet) et al... and Hawkman and Hawkwoman.

>>94285001
Hawkman IS on Action, IIRC. One of the main members.

But most likely what I would guess is that they just think he looks cool or something. When I was 5 I said Silver Surfer was my favorite despite never having read Silver Surfer or even gotten to the arc in FF where he shows up. I don't even know where I could possibly have known him from.

>>94285185
Just did a quick search and Hawkman seems to come in most Imaginext DC Toy Sets.

I'm calling it that.

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>>94285195
Super Pets Big Ted is amazing

balanced page see >>94284876

>>94284534
I'd leave but I don't know many other comic communities that are any good. /co/ got me into comics but I think I've hit that 4/5 year mark now where I see the same patterns too often

>>94285151
I mean he was there for couple episodes right? I really don't know if he has actually featured in any series extensively.

>>94285089
I've been hoarding gems a little, so I went ahead and bought the 100 shard pack. Her speed is just too good to pass up.

I play pretty casually though. Not even at the point where I care about team synergies and shit beyond putting Medphyll as the lead for the shield and healing.

>>94284697
I have seen quite a few "deleted" posts courtesy of 4chanx in some company wars threads regarding movies using certain words that rhyme with truck, so some (just some) crap is getting culled under global rule 3.

>>94285128
>>94285191
The staggering levels of pleb/patrician elitism are pretty wearing, it's like /mu/ in that respect.

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>>94285195
>Comet (but not the weird Comet)
No comet then

>>94285224
>I mean he was there for couple episodes right?
There were two versions for 3 episodes or so total.
And both sucked.

>>94285001
raising them right

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>>94285242
I haven't gotten into an opera flamewar in a long time, no energy

>>94285001
He is in Action, yes.

also he has a mace so I'm guessing that's why the kid likes him. He hits people with his mace.

>>94285218
This is like the only place I know where people get called out for unironic characterfaggotry and people discuss/post about indie, alternative and Euroshit. As garbage as it is, there's no alternative that I know of.

>>94285245
>Grant Morrison's Kathmandu trip

>>94285209
Oh yeah, toys are always an avenue. I did a double-take when I saw a 90s hook-hand Aquaman toy on supermarket shelves a year or two ago.

>>94285079
>doyouknowwhereyouare.jpg

>>94285242
Yeah but I'd rather have that than people accepting everyone's taste as equal blindly.

>>94285056

Yeah I've only seen vague references but like damn, what the shit

>>94285139
Precisely my point. If I have to deal with having every slur known to human language tossed at me, y'all can deal with a bit of criticism.

>>94285218
I'd leave, but then I couldn't hang out with you lot. And at this point, I don't even care if the rest of the board sees us as SJW hipsters, at least we actually read comic books.

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>>94285274

>>94285035
People also dug up a barely looked at comic from 2015 because the word "gamergate" was used

>>94285379
I'd leave but storytiming has become meditative.

Otherwise I wouldn't be storytimimng Grendel this week.

>>94285326
>somewhere DC writers don't frequent?

>>94285242
I think I actually would prefer that on /co/ than what it has been lately, honestly.

You know, several years ago I completely stopped following anything involving video games, unfollowed all the gaming people, etc. because it was just CONSTANT drama, every single tiny thing that happened would create a huge uproar, then there would be an uproar over the uproar, and everyone would feel the need to chime in with their opinion on every site and write awful blogposts that would throw more fuel on the fire and it was just exhausting.

I feel like comics discussion has just become that now.

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>>94285398
What comic was that again?
I don't think that one is angela, another frequent set of panels people post randomly

>>94285274
I'm just saiyan, it is 4chan. You're here, so I assume you are in part amused by "recs for books where the protagonist wants to fuck his sister" and ridiculous philosophical shitposting.

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>>94285435
I say this as someone who has often enjoyed watching a trainwreck: so much of the comics drama is unnecessary and it's not even interesting drama.

>>94285404
Neat Dave.

>>94285435
I agree with that and it really is either side too. Too many people getting hits and retweets I guess.

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>>94285460
I am totally down for helping people find books based on whatever weird thema they choose to sort them

YKINMKATO

>>94285484
I've really got no time for the "you got mad about this but not about that" people (who are endemic today on Progressive Comics Twitter)

>>94285460
Are there any legit comics about that kind of subject? What's our Lolita?

>>94285435
Yeah I felt that today with people subtweeting about idiots sending messages about not liking books or whatever, like I really don't give a shit at this point.

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>>94285513
In vague response to anon above, I'm not seeing much I like about current Marvel and some of it's the let's just call them 'diverse' books but it's not because they're diverse and going back to Classic Dudebro Paradise isn't exactly a cure either.

Also, Jason Aaron's track record with reveal mysteries in Big Two comics *sucks*.

Busiek's thread is pretty cool.
https://twitter.com/KurtBusiek/status/891756594223919104

>>94285454
According to that thread, God is Dead by Avatar Press, and initially written by Hickman. The Angela panel did show up of course.
>>94271427

>>94285537
Claremont and Byrne's comics :^)

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>>94285642
He has been a consistent reminder of the fact that despite his politics/whatever, Willingham's Fables always has had a huge female readership, and accordingly his presence on some convention panels on the topic makes sense.

>>94285642
Also want to add, there are few people on Twitter whose insight I always appreciate, Busiek's one of them, Willow Wilson is another one.

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>>94285710
this is some good shit right here

>>94285664
That's too lewd for me anon.

Busiek's thoughts are interesting, but I still say I was right about "James" Olsen.

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>>94285756

>>94285756
this God is great

>>94285787
The Supergirl show has literally done one thing right: that one Toyman episode

Everything else can go in the trash.

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>>94285845
I was totally here for them smacking down shippers because current-day fandom shippers are the sheer incarnation of the will to power and I despise it all

What I can't stand is the constant negativity. People are actively looking for things to get angry at. How the hell does one even function like that?

People, go read/watch/play something you enjoy, go do something you like, have a wank, whatever will get you to calm down for a bit. Being pissed off at everything isn't healthy or enjoyable. And this is coming from a guy known as Cranky.

Chill out. Goddamn.

>>94285642
That Fraek guy seems quite upset

>>94285853
Does.. Does his tie go into his pants?

>>94285845
everything Wynn is awesome and Mon-El was adorable

>>94285916
The second season was crap...but James and Wynn fighting crime together make up one passable Mister Action

>>94285916
Mon-El ruined by shipping him with Kara and having him literally not even being friends with Clark

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>>94285893
Apparently the shippers had already gotten mad before when they gave Lex's sis a male love interest.

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>>94285787
I don't pay a lot of attention to live action, they didn't call Jimmy Jimmy?

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>>94286003
this is a very good page

OK what has this become, Grant Morrison's version of Transmetropolitan?

>>94285642
I feel like Busiek and others need to just stop responding to these people. All it seems to do is inspire even more people to rail on them about this crap.

>>94285720
Busiek and Wilson are definitely two of the best. Simone and Patch Zircher also get a lot of respect from me for always being up-front with their beliefs and thoughts.

>>94285845
I love both Supergirl and Flash for their sheer earnestness and love for superheroics. I'm not that hot on the actual writing and watchimg them often gives me a headache, but I admire so much their energy. I see younger folks getting excited for each episode trailer the same way I was excited getting the next issue of a comic and being so eager to read it on the ride home.

>>94285624

I think part of my problem is the bad things are traits Marvel has always had getting worse, and beyond the moral problem, blaming it on diversity is just scapegoating instead of dealing with it

>>94286015
Nah, they called him James and outside of the one moment when he hears General Lane is coming to visit he acts all cool and hip.

Which is fine, but they sapped all energy from him in the process.

>>94285893
Modern day shippers are terrifying, but I see what they were going for with that SuperCorp ship. Despite dating him in real life, Melissa somehow seemed to have less on-screen chemistry with Mon-El compared to Lena's actress. Mon-El himself was okay (despite the name), but I didn't quite buy their relationship (since they were arguing most of the time).

Anyways, CW relationships are always terrible because it means that DRAMA must always be happening.

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>>94285894
Sometimes it's in jest and I get that aspect, but yeah it's mostly exhausting.

>>94286037
I can see Supergirl, for all of its flaws and awful writing, as coming from an earnest place.

Not the Flash though.
There's nothing earnest about Barry "I need my pain and sadness to be a hero" Allen

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>>94286065
Passing along the best way it was described to me the other day: "fans, but especially shippers, are like wild animals. You can feed a domestic animal and they'll be your friend even if you're not giving them food right now. Feed a wild animal, and they expect food all the time, and the moment you stop feeding them, they'll attack you."

>>94286054
So they made him an unrelated character? Because Jameses and Jimmys are fundamentally different.

>>94286141
Pretty much.

The second season has him be a duo with Wynn (who they gave all of Jimmy's iconic traits to) and they balance out.

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>>94286037
...this really IS Grant Morrison's Transmetropolitan, in 1989

>>94286087
I like how the angels here kind of mirror all the building jumpers we've see through this series

>>94284336
Oh, you done the Seth issues? My collection ends with the end of his run on the art.

>>94286137
Did you come across the shipping shitstorm from "The 100" last year? A character had to die for the plot to progress, and parts of the internet reacted incredibly poorly to how it actually happened. I don't think that the IMDB ratings for the last half of that season have recovered.

>>94286203
That's volume 1 in "The Archives" all of volume 2 is collected in " The Brides of Mister X and Other Stories"

>>94286037
>>94286094
Flash is very contradictory to me in a way. Like it almost feels like the writers are trying to emulate the right tone, but they haven't bought in themselves so it feels fake. I hope Gates can help them out in any case.

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>>94286203
Yeah, we did volume 1, and this is volume 2, without Motter personally involved

>>94286218
That was a great example of shipping outrage, yes. And it was also explicitly put into the most for great justice language possible to try to coerce creative into changing things.

A friend wondered how Supergirl, which apparently has spent a lot of time and care on a lesbian relationship this season, is supposed to not let down the angry shippers (who they told it wouldn't happen) and yet also avoid queerbaiting

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>>94286189
that's something a comic like this should do--there should be threads of visual argument that don't have to be made explicit or be some kind of "This means this symbolically", but they're always there

>>94286264
I don't trust Gates.
He loves these shows.

I can't see him trying to fix them in the ways they need.

>>94285001
There was a series of cartoon shorts from not too long ago based on a toyline that included Hawkman in the main lineup, maybe that plus JLAction?

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>>94286314

I have totally lost track of this book.

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>>94286388
I see it's Game of Thrones time, lol

BTW we're off tomorrow, back Tuesday with more in this volume. This is really getting back to Mr. X after that first arc was just Too Much.

>>94286314
>It's like poetry kind of, they rhyme

>>94286423
I lost track before tonight but this is pretty accessible

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>>94286423
the last arc was nigh incomprehensible

this is just a dude having a metaphysical crisis and maybe being dead, or worse, never being allowed to be dead, hence why he cannot sleep, the small death

The 100 fell into the trap of unexpected good actor chemistry and instead of rewriting to capitalize they stayed the course.

And lesbians were dying on tv like weekly for a bit there

>>94286512
There's always la petite mort with the gun chick though

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>>94286512
thanks for reading and we'll be back on Tuesday

what's out this week, is this Mr. Miracle week?

>>94286585
did they ever actually do it? it was pretty unclear

OK from having now visited /lit/ I have to say I think they just have more of a sense of irony about their shitposts:

>>>/lit/9824026

>>94286235
Well, I have those floppies so I'm not concerned, I was just wondering where we are 'cause as I said my Mr.X collection begins with the Los Bros stuff and ends with the last Seth issues.
>>94286273
Sorry to be a div, who's drawing this, then? Lemme scroll up for credits...

Btw thanks for postin' OP

>>94286610
>what's out this week, is this Mr. Miracle week?
That's next week I think

>>94286610
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

Okay, book's getting back on track. Good, I was starting to worry for a second there.

>>94286610
...WOWWWW had no fucking idea D'Israeli worked on this! Also is this cover >>94284336
by ADRIAN Sampson, the Megazine/Anderson artist?

>>94286624
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27Israeli_(cartoonist)

(not the Prime Minister)

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>>94286702
The covers for this title are a goddamn murderer's row of high-end talent, and they're amazing

>>94286702
This is a lot less distorted than his usual stuff huh. I'm so used to a particular kind of D'Israeli face.

>>94286624
D'Israeli is the artist, he's a 2000AD artist these days.

>>94286610
I'm looking forward to Deathstroke, Shade, and maybe the new Newsboy Legion collection. It's a light week.
The LOSH Silver Age ommibus is also out this week.

>>94286754
...I should storytime XTNCT for /co/ again.

>>94286706
Er, I know who he is, Anon. Still have the Lazarus Churchyard stuff he did with Warren Ellis that I picked up when it first came out, soo....
>>94286730
Is it Adrian Sampson, though?!
>>94286742
I wouldn't call his current style "distorted", just comfy-cartoony. I mean, it's not like Peter Bagge or Michael Deforge style, he's still a pretty fucking "grounded" artist...I really like his stuff from Scarlet Traces>>>now, desu. A veritable national treasure, to be sure.

>>94286809
I think Scarlet Traces and Leviathan were the first D'Israeli stuff I read.

>>94286809
Steve Sampson

>>94286610
Thanks again OP

>>94286779
>The LOSH Silver Age ommibus is also out this week.

Damn I just got the vol 1 of the 70s/80s stuff. Time to find more money.

>>94284393
As much as I love Los Bros and Seth I really feel this was the best approach...like having the city and it's buildings as the main character, that heavy, oppressive German Expressionist vibe. Rub out Mr. X as much as you can, know what I mean? The way I parse the series is that it's not really about him anyway, it's about his creations. This drawing is great, could have made X ten times smaller in >>94284419
, >>94284443 etc. and it would not have made a bit of difference. Great stuff.
>>94286923
Thankyou, pretty mad 'cause his technique and style is very similar to who I was thinking of (unless I'm mis-remembering his first name, always a possibilty..), thanks for replying Anon
>>94286922
I love Scarlet Traces. Leviathan was brilliant, too. Lazarus Churchyard is kind of perverse, definitely lays out some of Warren Ellis' future themes...the art's all painted colour though, it's not as confident as his b & w stuff. Still interesting tho'. First serialised in the short-lived UK anthology Blast! magazine.

>>94286619
I love this. Shitposting is fun when you're all kind of on the same shitwavelength, I guess.

>>94286369
I'm assuming you mean this:
https://youtu.be/wWtKDDl1ESk?list=PLcrApfnvcfVziLpbjdtWlpJd7E9czrZR3

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>>94285001
Yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLEze2Aa3Bs

I'm late, did I miss the storytime?

>>94284419
goddamn

>>94284711
>Like, just imagine like Jay or someone being racist and jingoistic because "lol realism". Fucking hell.
Ted would be a more likely candidate. Of the JSA's old men, he's kind of the rough and tumble one.

Wouldn't make it any less awful, of course.

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>>94285185
>Also his design sucks

I wish they went with their prototype design.

Thanks, OP.