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Post mary sues
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you might want to start the thread by posting something related to the thread you're trying to start, you massive faggot
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>>94275224
>knows how to bend everything but air by the time she was a toddler when every other avatar had to travel the world to learn to bend everything
>is a massive cunt to everyone and not only gets away with it, but is proven right and rewarded for doing do
>Not a mary sue
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>>94275138
She has tons of flaws, and is just a shit character for most of the series.

Now the person I posted is a huge mary sue. Everyone tells her how she is better than everyone including superman, and every male on the show falls head over heels in love with her and tells her how great she is. In her defense she is a cutie.
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>>94275138
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>>94275278
there's a difference between knowing how to do something and mastering something, plus she's the friggin Avatar
and she's not a cunt you autistic piece of shit
it's actually almost commendable how far they want towards not making the Avatar a Mary Sue like Aang was
fuck you
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>>94275432
Not OP, but you have to be kidding when you say Aang is more of a mary sue. Aang didn' master any of the elements without the help of his avatar state until the final season. He was inexperienced and naive often getting them into trouble. Aang had some qualities of a Mary Sue, but Kora is closer than him.
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>>94275138
In all honesty, Korra gets shit on too often in the show to be a proper Mary Sue and lots of decisions she makes end up having disastrous consequences
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>>94275473
I meant to say all, not any. He obviously mastered Air and Water in the first two seasons. But he never truly mastered earth and fire in the series. He used his avatar state to mimic mastery.
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>>94275138
Korra is an utter failure, but she feels like a Mary Sue when the Show has to bend over backwards to find ways to make it look like she won when she really just fucked up on a gigantic scale and achieved a Pyrrhic victory at best.
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>>94275473
Aang's lack of skill in other elements was balanced by the fact that he was an air bending prodigy with a mastery of a style that was virtually unknown to the world and difficult to counter. The only opponents that Aang ever really had trouble with were Azula and Ozai. Azula being a prodigy herself and Ozai being supped up by the comet.
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>>94275138
>"Female character I don't like is a Mary Sue hurr durr"

Fuck off
That being said Korra is still a SHIT tho
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>>94275432
>she's the avatar so it's okay
Like I said before, every other Avatar had to learn and travel to bend the elements
>if I call you autistic I win
Go fuck yourself, people like you are the reason discussion is impossible to have a discussion on this site
>Aang is a mary sue
So a character that had to learn and actually got reprimanded when he was being stupid is a mary sue but the one who knows everything from the get go and never got called out for being a bitch isn't?

I'm sorry I insulted your waifu
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>>94275559
Plus you know the one eyed wonder, Zuko, he lost the Earth Kingdom to the fire nation, fucked up and almost killed everyone when he went into the avatar state, and relied on his friends to help him win. But tell me how Kora is less of a Mary sue with her being a one woman army against a man who mastered air bending better than Aang, and rarely needs help from anyone. It wasn't until the last season they started giving Kora some flaws, and actual growth, but then they threw it all away half way through the season.
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>>94275278
Being super duper good at something isn't enough to be a Mary Sue though,she looses more fights than wins and is pretty average earth/fire/air/water bender.Her having them all as a toddler is convenient but the execution in the story isn't perfect enough.

I feel like calling Korra a Mary Sue is lazy criticism because she doesn't fit all the criteria,every Mary Sue is a badly written character but not every badly written character is a Mary sue
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I wouldn't call someone who gets constantly captured or reduced to helplessness a Mary Sue.
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>>94275346
>Says Aradia is a Mary Sue instead of Jade
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>>94275570
tell me how my choice>>94275312
is not a mary sue. And don't say that Superman is a gary stue that just isn't true. I like Supergirl in the comics but she is written as shit in the show.
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>>94275473
Korra was just presented as someone who had mastered three elements over a decade of training, and even then, they didn't teach her modern styles of bending. She gets fucking rekt by police in the very first episode ffs. Meanwhile, Aang was established as a Mary Sue pretty much right from the beginning, with the water scroll episode. The closest Korra comes to Mary Sue territory is metalbending.

>>94275595
>ignoring the points I made while reiterating your own after mocking them

Yeah, nah, you're just a stupid cunt who made a shitty thread.
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>>94275657
Aang regularly beat Zuko and the Earth Kingdom had been infiltrated for months, there's not much a small group of a children can do when it comes to inner corruption and infiltration. Korra fucked up in the Avatar state too and she also relied on others to win and save her life in various situations. Korra was handled poorly as a character but to call her a Mary Sue is misguided
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>>94275138
Korra is a shit character, but she has way too many flaws to be considered a Mary Sue. I'm convinced half the autists who throw this term around have no idea what it actually means and just use it to describe any character they don't like.
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Not /co/ but it's the one that pisses me off the most and is obligatory
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Ronnie tbqh
>has latent reality warping powers
>eating nugs alone is enough cause for evacuation
>everyone is always asking about him and so he gets nervous and so it's OK that he stays inside
>Hawaiian shirt
>incarnation of his motivation is probably a majin
>lives with qt chinagril
>regrets

So yeah.
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>>94275747
Oh I am not calling her a Mary Sue, I am just saying she has more qualities of one than Aang did. She fucked up way too much to be one.
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>>94275793
Except every conceivable reality is dedicated to laughing at his misfortunes and general weirdness
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>>94275771
I know the blade is a laser but is learning how to use a a sword that much more difficult than using a staff? Or is that not the issue here?
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>>94275138
Are there any characters that are the opposite of a Mary Sue? Like instead of succeeding all the time they fail all the time? What's the name for a character like that?
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>>94275700
Jade got to suffer all alone.

However to cure both of them we do require some large COCKS. Possibly of the equine variety.
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>>94275617
this is the most autistic shit I have ever seen
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>>94275881
I don't think she's a Mary Sue so much as she is a flat character.
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>>94275771
>Can use a lightsaber without cutting her arm off

>Can instantly use the Jedi mind trick and telekinesis

>Is a technical wizard and knows everything about everything

Yeah, Rey was a textbook Mary Sue
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>>94275884
A staff and a sword are two very different weapons

A staff is a weapon in which you can use the every part of it to strike, with a lightsaber like the one she is using she can only use one end, not to mention a sword and a staff have very different styles of use, it would make more sense if she was using a double bladed lightsaber.
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>>94275840
>is constantly screwing shit up because she is impulsive and unwilling to deal with issues in ways other than violence, both in matters of magical life and death struggles AND her love life, which is so bad that cuck Star posting is a national past time

Don't be fucking silly, Anon. Her last thing with the golden murder power was maybe an asspull at the worst, but her character isn't even close
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>>94275884
Though your words are clearly evidence against my point I ask that you forget them.
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>>94275894
An Anti-Sue? or Butt Monkey?
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>>94275840
>Jarcofags/Jackiefags think Star is a mary sue
>But they also throw feasts and orgies every time she visibly suffers on screen
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>>94275894
Ronnie>>94275793
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>>94275948
See this was meant for>>94275878
Trying to fool me.
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>Male character does it
>It's fine
>Female character does it
>Waaah Mary Sue
Why does this keep happening
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>>94275894
Anthony Burch.
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>>94275432
She was absolutely a cunt
>steals Mako
>sides against her dad
>doesn't put bolin down until after she makes out with mako in front of him

plus she never seems to learn her lesson but manages to brute force her way through 90% of the obstacles in front of her.
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>>94275278
>>knows how to bend everything but air by the time she was a toddler when every other avatar had to travel the world to learn to bend everything
Did you really not understand the concept that she's supposed to be the opposite of Aang?
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>>94275617
What is this
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>>94276007
Because we're on /co/

And also the broader internet I suppose
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>>94275138
>Korra
>Mary Sue
Pick one, amigo.
She's rash, acts on impulse, and fucks up so many times throughout the whole series.
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>>94275928
>>Is a technical wizard and knows everything about everything
Well she made a living selling used ship parts. It's not that much of a stretch that she learned something.
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>>94275894
Sweet Dee Reynolds from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is a good example

And the proper term is But-Monkey

Or the Universe's punching bag
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>>94276055
A good deal of her stupid decisions are not recognized as stupid decisions. That's one of the bigger traits of a Mary Sue
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>>94275617
>No Raven in the Harem.
Unaceptable.
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>>94276111
The only one I can think about, is when she tries to expose Amon. By the end of the series though, she is less naive.
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>>94276062
Does that explain how she is better at everything having to do with the Falcon than Han?

I mean, how the fuck does she out do Han's piloting and shit by knowing the parts to a ship
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>>94276066
>Sweet Dee

It's her or Charlie. The gang shits on her a lot but she's just as bad of a person as them if not worse sometimes.
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>>94275432
>there's a difference between knowing how to do something and mastering something, plus she's the friggin Avatar
No other avatar that we've seen learned how to bend the elements without traveling and learning from a master.
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>>94275617
whos that qt in the white hat
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>>94275771
Rey was a mary sue, or at least a very shitty character with almost no flaws.
In fact, I don't even think the writers gave her any character flaws whatsoever.
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>>94276111
Her stupid decisions lead to terrible consequences though,the biggest being falling for her Uncles obvious scheme leading to the dark avatar stuff,same with never actually beating any of the red lotus without getting someone to save her and you can't count the number of times she gets rekt in season 3,a true Mary Sue would never get beaten as often as her look at Mabel,imagine her or Rey ever getting as much loosing as Korra,she's still terrible as a character because no one ever really calls her out on being so bratty in season 1-3 but again that just makes her a shitty protagonist not a Mary sue
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>>94276184
Well was she really bending as a kid, or just shooting stuff? Remember, the Lion Turtles gave the powers, but it was only from studying nature that it became bending.
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>>94276184
>No avatar that we've seen mastered the elements without traveling and learning from a master.

Fixed that for you. Tarrlok and Noatak are both shown to have discovered their bending on their own. Toph probably discovered it by herself, then learned from those animals. I wouldn't be surprised if Katara discovered it herself, and then she became pretty good on her own, even teaching Aang.
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>>94276228
They hinted at the fact that she might have some anger issues in addition to her whole abandonment shtick, but that was about it.

Reminder that we lost Kyle "Better Dead Than Buckethead" Katarn for this shlock
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>>94275928
Luke didn't cut of his arm either that was Vader.
His training was five minutes with a light saber on the flight to Alderan without ever having fought before, at least Ray has fought before.
We don't know how long Luke took with learning the Jedi mind trick, because we never saw him use it, but his training with Joda couldn't have been too long either, when going by the time his friends spent trying to escape from hoth.
I think adult Jedi learn very fast, and "younglings" perhaps would too, but need to be indoctrinated in the jedi religion for years. Hell, Anakin could fly a space craft as an eight year old.
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>>94275617
>Usagi
Chibiusa might be a better fit than her.

>Kanna
I want to disagree, but on second thought, I find myself kind of unable to.

>>94276186
Kanna Endou from 20th Century Boys by Naoki Urasawa.

Magnificent read, by the way. I highly recommend it.
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>>94275771
Oh boy I can't wait for her to teach Luke how to master the force
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>>94276288
Shooting stuff is still bending.
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>>94275138
Korra is no Mary Sue. Is a piece of shit, a terrible character that anyone would be ashamed of writing, a political mouth piece and a huge cunt.

But not a Mary Sue.
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>>94276313
Hey, we got Kylo "laughable manchild with anger issues" Ren instead.
Fuck. ;_;
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>>94275881
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>>94275138
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>>94276336
You're interpreting real time as movie time, movie time Luke trained with Ben for days going on weeks and Vader took it easy on Luke in the fight because he knew he was fighting his son and everything else is just assumptions. Luke could barely touch on the force in the first movie and was clearly inexperienced in the second until he had his training with Yoda. In comparison, Rey dueled to THE DEATH against Kylo Ren and won and even beat his telekinses even though Ren had YEARS of more training. Rey was pure fucking Mary Sue
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>>94275138
Wow Korra is almost every bad thing under the sun except a mary sue.
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>>94276111
I really don't like the series Korra, and I hate that damn love-triangle, but I think that makes some sense.
Those people worship the avatar. Korra has celebrity AND religious status by many people, so they wouldn't critizise her.

The rest is much more interested in using her, than in critizising her, and the consequences of her actions are dire.

In my opinion she is a hormonal teenager over her head, that has automatic hero worship because she is the avatar.

That wasn't the story I wanted to see, but it's not really that unrealistic.
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>>94275138
>Gets defeated constantly.
>Constantly has to rely on other characters to help her, even more so than Aang did

Mary Sue
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>>94276336
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>>94276421
She still gets praised and condoned despite being a major fuck-up throughout the series, and her dumbest and most impulsive actions result only in slaps on the wrist from other characters - if even that. The only time I remember her getting called out on her actions was in S2, when Mako told her what a rash cunt she was being and she answers back by making a scene at the police station, thrashing a desk and breaking up with him. Any other time, any criticism she gets from other characters is lukewarm at most and she never learns anything from them.

She's like Rey from TFA; she may not be perfect or overpowered per se, but she still gets lots of unwarranted importance and deference, and never shows any signs of character growth.
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>>94275138
Start any time, OP.
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>>94275278
>> Aang is a balanced, harmonious soul who has to travel the world to discover the other forms of bending
>> Korra is a brash powerful bender who has to travel the world to discover peace and balance.

Goddamn anon, learn to think nigga
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>>94275617
Naruto is far from perfect, that role belonged to Sasuke

Goku isn't perfect, dude fucks up often and it's actually gotten him killed several times.

Jack Rakan is actually a parody of overpowered characters in general. He was Ken's way of making fun of them.

Negi is actually weaker than just about all of the people he faces, he wins with the help of his students

Usagi has regularly gets shit on before she gets her happy ending

Haruhi is FUCKING GOD. of course she's perfect
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>>94275928
Since when does having super powers make someone a Mary Sue?
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>>94276160
Not to mention that by that logic the african kids that scavenge discarded apple products for materials should be as good as electronics engineers
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>>94276621
That would explain the state of Apple at least
commence the /g/ shitflinging
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>>94276610
I think the argument is that she learned almost instantly how to use them. On the other hand, he Jedi mind trick wasn't quite perfect.
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Is there an actual definition of Mary Sue at this point? It all seems so nebulous and vague as far as criticism goes.
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And I mean it. She's a Mary Sue if I ever saw one.
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>>94276747
That's because she's the chosen one. It's as plain as day.
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>>94275928
What about Anakin?
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>>94276886
Even Anakin had to be trained
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>>94276893
He had to learn and had some major anger management issues later on
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>>94276594
>Haruhi is FUCKING BITCH
ftfy

I can't really see her as a Mary Sue since we're given Kyon's perspective and he sees her as obnoxious for most of the series.
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>>94276893
Anakin wasn't dueling with full fledged jedi and using the force in his first appearance. he had to be trained and even then he was still bested by Kenobi because had more experience
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>>94276818
Basically any character(gender doesn't matter) whose entire existence can be summed up as "wish fulfillment"

Or to put it another way, did you ever play pretend Superheros or Cops and Robbers? Did you every have That Kid who went "No, you didn't get me, I had a secret invisible deflector shield!" That's a Mary Sue.
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>>94276902
He wasn't the chosen one, obviously. He just fucked up.

Also doesn't "chosen one" imply gods? I never hear about any gods in Star Wars.
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>>94276925
The point I'm making is that Haruhi's perfection is easily explained by the series because she's god. As an omnipotent being she's supposed to be perfect
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>>94276893
As poorly written as it turned out, Anakin's story in the prequels was always meant to be a tragedy. A tragic MC has to be overpowered and overesteemed in order to make his inevitable fall harder. That's why almost all of the classic tragedies feature kings and princes.
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>>94276886
>It's as plain as day.
And as plain as her looks.
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>>94277042
She's a dustback. What do you expect?
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>>94275617
wtf is this and how can I make one?
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>>94275909
Sauce
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>>94275473

How is Korra closer to being a Mary Sue than Aang when she keeps screwing up and failing miserably? She's also pretty dumb and uneducated outside of combat.
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>>94276960
He was the chosen one since he threw palpatine into the core himself.
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>>94275138
ITT: a bunch of angry, impotent, fat slobs who hate being reminded that a woman did something as it makes them realize how much of a useless, emasculated, nonathletic bitch they are and will always be.
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>>94275617

I can't believe it was the keyblade that made me laugh. Also,

>Disney Castle
>King has a keyblade
>no Disney or KH characters
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>>94275138
korra haters are some sad fuckers
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>>94275617
Why is Lisa the chef?
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>>94275312
melissa is a cute!!
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>>94277237
>said to bring balance to the force
>he fucks up the force
>turns out the force was already balanced and the chosen one first fucks it up and then fixes it
I guess.
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>>94275771
>Luke will probably die in the next movie so this pos can become "The Last Jedi"
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>>94277105
Where were you when we were having threads for these all the time?
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>>94277054
Just because you're from a desert planet, doesn't mean you have to look so vanilla.
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>>94275432
Wow, I've never seen someone defend their waifu so vehemently.

Go jerk off to this and come back when you're calm and ready to talk to the adults
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>>94275945
It gets even worse then that. Even if you were a master swordsman, the first time you use a light saber would be awful. And that woild be because the blade has no weight. You can't feel where your blade is the same way you can with a physical sword. So someone with skills on using a staff with no formal training, just personal experience, using a sword where the blade has no weight for the first time in her life, thoroughly trashed a masterswordsman who used that weapon since he was a kid. Ontop of that he was also shown in the very first scene of the film to also be stupidly powerful in the force.
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The problem with these threads is that nobody understand the subtle difference between a mary sue, and a character who is strong-talented and happens to wins his fights:

A talented or strong character bends the universe with his will/strength.
A mary sue has the universe bending itself for his sake.

To be honest this term should've never been applied outside of fanfiction. Nowadays is just used to insult a strong-talented character that we don't like, and makes it impossible to write a character who is actually the best at what he does.
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>Most beautiful girl
>from Princes to orcs want to marry her
>hates the fact that she is so beautiful that others throw themselves at her feet
>prefers to be one of the boys
>Twist: She is actually Snow White's Prince Charming
>Lot of lesbian love in the fandom
>Has the literal power to slow down time to a crawl

God Darling Charming is a text book mary sue. And yet...it works...Perhaps it's the fairy tale setting, but all of these things really makes for a compelling character.
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>>94275617
>Harem
>Lightning
Doesn't surprise me a Lightningfag was autistic enough to make this.
>Guard
>Goku
Dude doesn't even want to stay with his family when a good fighter shows up, let alone guard this autists worthless ass.
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>>94277958
>3DPD

only thing worse is korrasami yuri
what a waste of talent
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>>94275312
Korra? they're superficial and don't matter in the long run, she's cocky and reckless, and an asshole, but ultimately it never matters when it should and is just there for lip service.
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>>94278156
>>94278156
A"strong character" is just as much a Mary Sue as the one who just happens to have everything fall into place. Both are obvious wish fulfillment characters
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>>94276288
That'd be fine if she was just water bending considering she's surrounded by those every day, including her dad. It would make sense for her to mimic what she sees around her. Where the hell is she learning earth bending and fire bending forms? Fucking 12 year old Zuko couldn't pull off the shit she was doing with fire. Are we just supposed to completely disregard the whole process that worked before in Avatar where people like monks and fire sages know who the Avatar is and reveal this information by the time they're 16 so we can get a goofy scene where she says YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT?
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>>94278639
This is true of all the characters from both series except for Azula. And that only works because she is an antagonist.
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>>94275884
>>94275928
>>94276228
>>94277683
>>94276373
Were any of you legitimately pissed that Finn wasn't the Jedi? I was, but I also think you could've kept Poe in and extended his role to fill hers and would've lost nothng.
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>>94278661
Chalk it up to the terrible writing where Bryke didn't want to go through a traveling of the world and instead focus on the new place of Republic City and focus on that part of the Gaang's legacy. Where does the line between Mary Sue and terrible writing form since there can be Mary Sue characters in good writing.
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>>94278341
She almost died because she left a loaded gun out in the open.
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>>94276336
You do realize that Luke sucked with the sword right? He trained throughout the whole movie, sticking with a blaster most of it because he sucked with the sword, then he ggets his ass kciked by Vader. Then he spends the entire second movie training to fight vader in the third and nearly loses anyway. We establish Luke Training for a long time in movie time, we establish him growing as a character. Rey just instantly does things the best. She knows how to use the force for no reason, she can fight (we do establish this) but she shouldn't be able to beat Kylo ezpz who was training his whole life, and we establish that she can fix ships and fly them. However Han fucking Solo compliments her and sucks her dick over how good she is at flying, and alien grandma also sucks her dick when she meets her.

Nothing in that movie that she did couldn't have been filled by Poe.
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>>94275138
Oh good, it's a thread for people who don't know what Mary Sues actually are, and will instead just toss around various characters that aren't.
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>>94278661
You mean were airbenders could interact with other benders and never try and mimic their stances and moves thereby revealing they can bend more than one element as that airbender would be the Avatar? That the Avatar Spirit only wakes up and manifests once the host is of a certain age?
The nations interacted in harmony but remained separate. Otherwise airbenders wouldn't be seen in the Fire Nation like how Aang speaks of his friend Kuzon. Or how Aang hung out with young Bumi. The nations were coming together and if others were to interact and show bending while in the South Pole, and Korra were to be present for bending displays and hear bedtime stories about the Avatar, a child could mimic the motions.
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>>rich,wealthy girl sheltered by dad

>>also an expert driver and stunt performer

>>also martial expert,able to fight chi blockers,earth benders with no training whatsoever

>>inexplicably a master at using her dad's electric weopons,even planes despite having no idea what they were or that her dad made them,even defeating her father and his trained men with them

>>No personality but hooks up with mako an Korra for the flimsiest of reasons

>>never ever gets defeated or captured,no series villian or there nooks could beat her despite easily taking out the avatar,a lightning bender and a lava bender

Korra was shit but Asami was the biggest Mary Sue in the avatar verse,she feels like a self insert that takes the spotlight and yet was inconsiquential to the plot
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>>94277938
>glowing eyes under a hood
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>>94278349
Except, like, no. Lars hates him (because Lars is a cunt) and he fails all the time. That's why Lars and Jasper are dead.
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>>94278690
This, it would have been a cool fish out of water story
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>>94279001
>confirmed for never having read Dune
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>>94275884
>I know the blade is a laser but is learning how to use a a sword that much more difficult than using a staff?
But she never learned it.
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>>94279063
I watched the movie. I have zero problem with the latex bubble suits.
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>>94278341
Yummy yummy bait
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>>94275138
is there any good character in TLOK? Bolin is pretty based but even he would get annoying sometimes
the love triangles in this show were fucking cancerous
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So, has anybody here taken one of those mary sue tests for a character they've written?
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>>94275138
Korra gets wrecked constantly.
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>>94279316
I have. The most I got was "borderline Mary Sue".
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>>94276818
>It all seems so nebulous and vague as far as criticism goes.
No it doesn't, you liar.
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>>94279316
The problem with those is the author is probably going to be the least reliable when it comes to answering the questions. It's easy for them to handwave sue-traits with half-assed excuses.
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>>94279316
Is there a link?
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>>94278657
>any strong character is wish fulfillment no matter what
>all characters ever written should be weak
>talent doesn't exist in the real world
You're either underage, or don't know anything about writing.
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>>94279281
>Bolin is pretty based
The only good characters in tLoK are Tenzin and the AtLA characters who did not appear. And your example is not based, only annoying and unnecessary baggage.
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>>94275771
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>>94278657
Go read the definition of a mary sue, thank me later.
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>>94277280
here, I took first google image search results
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>>94280213
I like this kingdom
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>>94279458
THIS
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Here's your Mary Sue op

Seriously who wrote this shit
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>>94280213
Objectively the best queen ever Anon

Great taste Google
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>>94280213
>retainers
heh
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I was sure some faggot that doesn't read comics was going to post Doom.
Pleasantly surprised, /co/.
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>>94280755
Men can't be Mary Sues, only little boys and females.
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>>94279690
http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm
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>>94278770
She beat kylo because he was already injured.
When you compare light saber fighting in episode I-III with what ray was doing she wasn't really good
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>>94276487
His training with Yoda couldn't last long when you match up the timeline with Leia ans Han escaping.
The same is true in the first movie, we see a bit saber waving and in the same scene they arrive at Alderan
The way those movies are cut there is no time in which Luke could really train. Of course I can start a headcanon that he had more time than possible, but then why only do it for Luke and not for Ray as well
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>>94275771
>>94276534
>>94277683
You guys understand that you cant call Rey a mary sue until the next movie right? they clearly show in her flashbacks theres something more to her being able to use the force that easily.
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>>94275894
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>>94275894
Losers
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>>94276534
Also never handled a blaster before, but somehow knows what a safety is and only misses ONCE, then downs every single Stormtrooper she comes across effortlessly.

Even without all of this bs, she's not compelling in the least as a character. I don't really care about her story beyond her turning to the dark side and Kylo Ren back to the light. If Kathleen Kennedy even allows that that is.
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>>94275884
In many historical martial arts systems you begin using a staff before moving on to a blade, you can see the remnants of her staff habits in some of fight choreography like how she thinks she has a little more reach than she actually does once or twice.

Of all the things in TFA the forest fight was highly entertaining, had a lot of weight and I personally did not have many of the issues I see people try to apply to it.
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>>94275346
>>94275700
>>94275909
>ignoring the fucking obvious one
When she is nearby, she sucks double digit IQs from her surrounding, just to show how perfect she is.
It's all about her and you better don't forget that. Although, if she's nearby, you won't remember it anyway.
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>>94276111
Opening the portals was a fucking mistake, but Republic City was at least mad enough at her to tell her to fuck off.
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>>94278657
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>>94275559
>with a mastery of a style that was virtually unknown to the world and difficult to counter
At the cost of knowing he's the last of his kind and that all his old friends and teachers burned to death, technically all because they were looking for him. Aang's aware of the implications that being the Last Airbender have and it's why his conflict at the end of the series is good, even if its resolution is shit.
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>>94278913
>rich
Irrelevant

>Expert driver
She test drives the companies cars you fuckwit

>No training
He father had her in defense classes since she was a young child, you fuckwit

>Master of electric weapons
She's using her regular fighting, only one of her hands is now electrified. Barely a jump

>airplanes
She never flew a plane in the first season, you fuckwit. By season 2 it had been six months

>No personality
A non point that gets a non response

>Never defeated or captured
Season 3 episode 9, fuckwit
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>>94275770
I think the term more appropriately levied at Korra is Writer's Pet. While she does suffer and experience some kind of adversity, her flaws are never what cause her problems and there's always characters around to pat her on the back for just being herself. The story doesn't punish her for her faults but instead rewards them. While the story doesn't revolve around her, the writing seems to imply she's not in the wrong most of the time and even when she is all she needed to do was acknowledge it and it's suddenly all okay.

I think Korra was an interesting character idea handled shittily, but so was LoK on the whole.
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>>94275722

>tell me how my choice is not a mary sue

For starters, a Mary Sue is a self-insert character inserted into fanfiction as a form of wish fulfillment. Seeing as how Korra is an actual canonical character...well, you're kinda fucked here.
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>>94276336
>Luke didn't cut of his arm either that was Vader.

By the time Luke had his first lightsaber duel, he'd been training with it for 3 years.
Not to mention spending what...A week? Training with the greatest Jedi teacher to ever live right before the duel.
And Luke still got his shit pushed in while giving it his all against a man who spent the entire duel toying with him.

The first time we saw Luke with a lightsaber, he could barely deflect blaster bolts from a stationary drone with the force, something we saw children doing with minimal effort in the prequels.

Rey should have gotten dominated by Kaylo in that encounter.
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>>94283657
>being able to fund any form of transportation the team needs in an instant isn't plot-device characterization
>being able to pilot anything herself isn't plot-device characterization
>not having a personality isn't plot-device characterization

Asami isn't a Mary Sue, because Mary Sues are just shitty characters. Asami HAS no character.
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Tell me I'm wrong.
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>>94284047
She funded the airship in season 3 despite them not needing it because they wanted to keep these character together despite how none of them should have stayed together after season 2 since they have no purpose in the story.
And the time skip would have her learn aircraft piloting. Other than that, since she already knows cars and a sky bison just needs to here "yip yip" since Sokka got the hang of it, piloting isn't an issue.

But yeah she doesn't have a character beyond being a love interest, she never was used out of that role.
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>>94275793
For some reason I want a Ronnie x Sarah Anderson crossover.
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