FUCK HOMECOMING

Am I the only person who really liked that they made Spider-Man someone who grew up in a world where super heroes exist and is guided and mentored by them?

>>94263831
I'm sure there's tons of people who don't like Spider-Man.

>>94263767
Jesus, look at this "Goblin." People actually like that?

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>>94263767

>>94263901
You're one of those people who's not happy unless Peter is a 60 year old man married to MJ with 2 kids and 5 grandkids, aren't you?

>>94263996
To be fair, at least then Spider Girl would be canon

>>94263767
>This actually happened

>>94263767
Guys..... can't we just agree Homecoming was the best Spider-Man film since Spider-Man 2?

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>>94263767
>that filename

>>94264137

Homecoming is the worst Spider-Man movie of all time though. Unless you are blind and don't care about the weight of responsibility being a part of the character. And if you don't mind pissing on Uncle Ben's grave during the rubble scene.

>>94263996
No, I'm just one of the people who read the comics and feel like this is a bigger disgrace than Dragon Ball Evolution.

>>94264234
>And if you don't mind pissing on Uncle Ben's grave during the rubble scene.
Wasn't just that. That scene pissed on everything If This Be My Destiny was about. It's a scene that describes Peter's motives, we see him torn between giving in and getting his Aunt's medication. Then we flashes of Peter's loved ones. It shows that his entire motive is to keep the few he has left safe. Which ultimately gives him the strength to lift the heavy thing because his strength comes from them.

In this movie? "Oh no! I wont be able to suck Tony's cock if I don't". Which is why that scene sums up everything wrong with Homecoming. This isn't a movie about Spider-Man.

>>94263767
And fuck your performance in Valerian.

>>94263964
I still don't know why Raimi didn't go with the original design. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEZBhL5lpqg

>>94264261
I say this as someone who isn't going to see Homecoming in theaters because of the slaves line & I don't give a shit about it except the Vulture.

Are you fucking insane?
Anyone of the trailers for Homecoming is better in everyway to the entirety of Evolution, it's not possible for the full movie to be so.

>>94263831
>Spider-Man someone who grew up in a world where super heroes exist and is guided and mentored by them?
That's te opposite of what made spiderman unique.

>>94264424
> Do something different with the back of the head.
> Make the green darker.
> Give the eyes a translucentness.
> Tone down the ears just a bit.
And that would be fucking perfect.

>>94264574

no he met the Fantastic Four

you're crazy

>>94264424
It doesn't fit the rest of the movie. The robo golbin mask is dumb but it makes sense within the rest of the movie

>>94264698
I know for a fact you didn't read that book. Because he met the Fantastic Four solely for him to get paid because he needed to help his Aunt with rent. Only for him to essentially tell them to fuck off when he realized they were non profit. Spider-Man was the first kid super hero to not have a mentor.

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>>94264703
Then why didn't they go with the better concept for power ranger Goblin?

>>94264946
Not sure but you have to give Dafoe credit. He only loses the mask at the end right before he dies after getting his ass kicked. Too many other characters in other films lose their mask at any opportunity to give the actor more face time

>mfw Sony cut out the scene where Peter fucks Harry up after Gwen's death.

GDI.

i'm sick of the green goblin now, if we're gonna do a goblin at least go with hobgoblin this time around

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>>94265188
>scene where Peter fucks Harry

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The rubble scene was honestly the worst scene ever. When Peter cried for help like a bitch ass nigga i shook my head in shame

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>>94265385
Seriously though. Homecoming Peter is a fucking pussy compared to 616 Peter.

I paid to see it in the theatres, it was entertaining but not what i would consider great. When the blueray comes out, i'll buy it week 1. Not because i love it but to spite you. Some analyst at Marvel will get another tally on their spreadsheet and add a liitle more justification for a trilogy. You're welcome.

>>94265385
Holy shit this! I wanted to see a superhero, not a weenie crying bitch tears.

>>94265776

B-But the critics and 92% on RT! It was like a real child!!!

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Why is no one talking about the fact that Peter is a literal sociopath in this series?

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>Face it white boy yo ass just *smacks lips* hit the mutha fcking *Smoke some weed* dank pot nigga!$!$ * Protest against Trump and white people while fuck the police plays in the background*
* gets a nobel peace prize for fighting oppression*

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>>94265776
He's a fucking 15 year old kid you retards.

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>>94266589
This was also a 15 year old kid.

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>>94265776
>not a weenie crying bitch tears.
And I'm supposed to believe you went to a SPIDER-MAN movie for this?

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>>94266589
This is one too.

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>>94264348
>These fucking complaints again.

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>>94266589

Fuck you. Eat a dick. And go to hell.

He's not just any 15 year old kid. He's fucking Spider-man.

>>94266718
>crying because the man that raised you is dying and the last thing you said to him was to fuck off

vs

>crying in fear like a little bitch because you don't have your uncle tony to save you

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>>94264424
I like the other video better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fXAGC_B2Ys

>>94266862
Not an argument. These are very valid points. If This Be My Destiny is a defining moment for the character and they completely shat all over it.

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>>94266893
He's young yet, he hasn't built up the intestinal fortitude found in America's Hero John McCain yet.

>>94267033
I feel like there's something mentally wrong with people who feel the need to inject politics into fucking everything.

>>94266711
>>94266752
This one was also in deadly situations before.

When was the last time Homecoming Peter had to actually face about his mortality for a prolonged period?

>>94267014
It does not make it the worst of all time I will tell you that. These "valid" points have also been refuted in past threads as well.

>>94264532
>Are you fucking insane?
>Anyone of the trailers for Homecoming is better in everyway to the entirety of Evolution, it's not possible for the full movie to be so.
Different anon here.

Homecoming understand Spider-Man on a superficial level. That's why all the casuals thought it was great. They got their web-swinging and quips and bad guy of the week. There's more to it than that. Homecoming decided to change the fundamental elements of the character. In that respect, it's the same as Dragonball Evolution, if not worse for being a wolf in sheep's clothing.

>>94267109
Never. Which is why this isn't a Spider-Man movie. Peter spent his /entire/ fucking high school career trying to figure out what great responsibility was.

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>>94267109

So here's a though. DON'T ADAPT THIS MOMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA MAKE HIM A PUSSY.

Quit being a retard for a second and stop defending the character when most complaints are about what's happening off camera.

More to the point his lack of experience to that point should have been what made this even more a test of his strength of character. This was the moment to show that he was spider MAN and they crapped it.

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>>94265518
This is bait, right? Did you miss the part where he lifted the building screaming "I am Spider-Man!" realizing he doesn't need Tony's cock in his mouth to be a super hero?
How do so many people ignore the entire premise of the movie? How are you all so fixated on Tony's dick that you can't see that it was about Peter not needing it, not the other way around.

>>94267119
>These "valid" points have also been refuted in past threads as well.
No they haven't.

>>94267119
Enlighten me then. How isn't the If This Be My Destiny scene completely shitting on the scene?

>>94267173
>Did you miss the part where he lifted the building screaming "I am Spider-Man!" realizing he doesn't need Tony's cock in his mouth to be a super hero?
He did it so he could prove himself to Papa Stark.

>>94267129
>In that respect, it's the same as Dragonball Evolution

Holy hyperbole. Evolution was something else entirely.

>>94267129
Fuck. At least Dragonball Evolution had the supporting cast retain at least /some/ of their character traits.

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>>94266589
>>94265776
It had nothing to d with his age or Tony, seeing spiderman actually cry for help when he doesn't need it is stupid mother fucker can lift a damn tank and throw it why does he have trouble with rocks?

>>94267168
He faced his mortality for the first, time, cried about it,but then he nutted the fuck up and lifted the rubble.

That was the test of character. The fact that he did it in the end.

>>94267221
>Trying too hard now.

>>94267173
The entire fucking movie was about Peter proving himself to Tony. Fuck off. He was trying to prove himself to Stark.

>>94267230
He literally lifted the rocks, he realized he didn't need help and showed he is, in fact, Spider-Man without anyone's help.

>>94267230
Comic spidey strength is different from movie spidey strength, and movie spidey never had any feats of lifting a tank proportions.

And it was a lot of concrete.

>>94267267
Name two supporting cast members who are from the comics that retained just one personality trait.

>>94267271
The building scene was the climax of the movie and conveyed the literal opposite point. He didn't need Stark's tech or help to beat Vulture or lift the building.

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>H-Help me daddy Tony
In all seriousness fuck that scene, he should've cried when Tony took the suit away instead of crying because he "couldn't" lift some damn rubble

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>>94267301
May is a chill older parental figure like in Ultimate,

Flash was a douchebag who was bullying parker

>>94267276
He shouldn't have cried in the first place anon, he should know his own strength, plus he was literally grunting and struggling to lift it before he cried.

>>94267306
This is bullshit, because guess what's happening in Infinity War? It was totally about him proving himself to Tony.

>>94267327
>he should've cried when Tony took the suit away
Nah, he should have done what teen Peter would have done in the comics and told him to fuck off.

>>94267352
Flash was not a bully in this, he was more of a love interest. Ned was more of a bully to Peter than Flash was.

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>>94267252

That he cried at all is the problem.

go watch the Spectacular episode. There's a brief moment where Pete is ready to give up but then when he hears Gwen he realizes he's still needed and lifts the heavy machine off himself because he's Spiderman You can have your hero show human emotions but making him cry like a baby isn't heroic.

And Im not even saying he should never cry but save it for stuff like when Gwen Stacy dies or shit like that. There's a difference between looking human and looking like a bitch

>>94267360
He tried his best, failed, thought he was going to die, and cried.

Then he found his inner strength, and succeeded.

And inner strength has been comic staple bullshit since the beginning so you can't go ragging on it for being in the movie.

>>94267360
But he didn't, that was the point. That scene was him realizing he had the strength to do it himself, and he did.

>>94267361
Sounds like you have an issue with another movie, then. For Homecoming it was a sound character arc. This is literally not-muh and I seriously doubt you finished watching the movie, if at all.

>>94267384
This would have actually been better, imagine if Peter cried when he had to let the symbiote go.

>>94267352
>May is a chill older parental figure
May is an over bearing busy body who helicopter parented Peter constantly.
>Flash was a douchebag who was bullying parker
"bullying"

>>94267327
Peter Parker was one of the strongest Marvel characters back when there were like 10 characters.

>>94267392
Spectacular Spider-man had this happen after facing many lethal oponents- He faced his mortality.

Homecoming Spider-man did not. He was trapped and going to die a slow painful death. He's also a teenager. He doesn't have to bee heroic all the time, especially not when he sucks it up and does the heroic thing in the end.

>>94267394
He didn't try his best, he made a complete rookie mistake and confronted Vulture out in the open like a dumbass, also where the fuck was his spider sense through all of this anyway? That scene wouldn't have happened if he was as smart as comic book peter.

>>94267430
Not in Ultimate, which is where they drew inspiration from.

It was technically bullying. Him being a bully is different from him being a competent bully.

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>>94267230

Why are you comic fucks so insufferable? If a 15 year old kid was trapped under a massive pile of rocks and Rubble he'd be in shock and or cry out for help 10 out of 10 times. You're not going to have a little kid act all tough and heroic while he's being crushed, Jesus Christ. This is a movie that needs to be taken somewhat seriously, not a fucking comic book

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>>94267430
Old comic book May could only pester Peter when he got home, as she had no way of contacting him when he left their place.

Movie May has advanced technology with which to pester Peter. That's just the way the world changes.

And Flash Thompson was never someone who beat up Peter Parker for his lunch money, you are confusing old comics with your own childhood victimization.

>>94267476
>That scene wouldn't have happened if he was as smart as comic book peter.

b-b-b-but webshooters!

>>94267439
The nigga is still one of the strongest.
>>94267399
He was struggling to lift the damn rock anon, he already knew he had the strength to do it because he stopped a damn bus before he meant Tony

>>94267482
Him saying "Penis Parker" is not him bullying someone.

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>>94267454
>He's also a teenager.

Shut up. Spider man was always a teenager. In literally EVERY version of the story he was a teenager at some point. It's not an excuse.

You can say HE FACED HIS MORTALITY till you're blue in the face and it won't make the scene less retared because they shouldn't have adapted the scene if they weren't going to do it right. Save it for the sequel save it for Infinity.

And you're not getting the issue. This is a movie. He's not real. He didn't cry because of his mortality, he didn't cry because he was 15 he cried because they wanted him to cry and that was the wrong move.

Jesus Christ.

>>94267515
>If a fifteen year old superhero that can bench press an eighteen wheeler was stuck under a rock he'd cry
ok

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>>94267476
>confronted Vulture out in the open like a dumbass
Ok now you are just arguing to the point of being retarded. He confronted him inside a concrete building, with this power suit in another part of the building entirely.

Take a deep breath.

>>94267476
His best was making rookie mistakes. He's a rookie.

And his spider sense was what had him flipping around dodging the wings coming from behind before the building collapsed. Then the building collapsed and he had nowhere to dodge. What do you want, the screen to wiggle whenever spider sense activates?

Comic peter forgot that people don't react well to being suddenly stopped in freefall.
Confronting a villain who has remote control wings he didn't know about ranks a bit lower on the list of dumb mistakes.

You just have to accept that the people behind the comics and movies just don't get the character at all.

>>94267533
>The nigga is still one of the strongest.

He's weaker than every strong guy on every comic team ever. He's even weaker than a lot of guys who aren't the strong guy, Iron Man for example.

>>94267579
Anon you still take precautions did you know that?

>>94267575
He was under a rock he couldn't move and he didn't know if help would ever come.

He couldn't move it until he realized his inner strength.

>>94267179
Yes they have. Especially how he never has any "weight of responsibility". Was literally going to drop everything to being Spider-man full time as a job basically instead of using his powers to help others. Learned that the suit wasn't what defined him either. And rejected the offer to join the Avengers in the end.

>>94267192
Because instead of the Tony stark meme anons are using, it was finding that strength in himself that the suit wasn't what made him Spider-man in the first place.

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>>94263767
Stay salty Avi

>>94267572
He cried because that's what every single 15 year old would have realistically done in that situation. You sound like one of those people who tries to suppress all their emotions and refuses to cry, ever

>>94267606
Are we talking about raw bower or physical strength?
>>94267581
>Then the building collapsed and he had nowhere to dodge. What do you want, the screen to wiggle whenever spider sense activates?
Anon the nigga could have did the slingshot maneuver

>>94267389
>love interest
>bully

You don't know what either of those mean

>>94267652
He already had that strength before he meant Tony. He literally knew that already because he stopped a 3 ton vehicle going 40 miles per hour while crashing into a bus.

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>>94267519
>Movie May has advanced technology with which to pester Peter.
What? No she didn't.
>And Flash Thompson was never someone who beat up Peter Parker for his lunch money, you are confusing old comics with your own childhood victimization.
Flash still beat the crap out of kids. We've seen him doing it growing up and we've been given no reason to believe he ever stopped doing it. It was also implied he was doing that shit off screen. But you know, comics code.

>>94267685
>Muh realism
>You just have emotional problems

I hate this whole fucking generation.

It's not about refusing to cry but knowing WHEN to cry and when as a story teller to have your characters cry.

Cry when Uncle Ben dies
Cry when Gwen dies

Cry your eyes out but the audience is there to see Spider-MAN a famous and powerful super hero. Not spazz boy the webbed wonder

>>94267700
The worst this Flash did was slap his ass, hell flash wasn't even intimidating or anything. He could've flaunted his money, he could've been smarter,could've been more popular butt he wasn't any of those things.
>Inb4 Dj scene

>>94267606
>Kicked the crap out of all the Avengers
>Kicked the crap out of the X-Men
>Kicked the crap out of the Fantastic Four
>Kicked the crap out of Titania so bad she became traumatized.

Just wanna leave this here for y'all

https://youtu.be/3OnOJSNktOs

>>94267827
M-m-m-mistah Stahk

>>94267799
That's more a combination of all his powers. Spidey is basically precognitive, has inhuman flexibility and agility and is pretty strong.

Weight lifting wise, he's mid tier.

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>>94267652
>it was finding that strength in himself that the suit wasn't what made him Spider-man in the first place.
Even if that was true, which it's not. The If This Be My Destiny scene is supposed to show Peter's true motives. He does what he does because of his loved ones, which ultimately gives him the strength to push the heavy thing off. Even if it's what you describe, it shows that this Peter is completely selfish.

>>94267766
And they saw Spider-man the famous and powerful hero, after he was put in an emotionally trying experience, maned up and saved the day.

>>94267654
>Those dots in the middle.
It's the little things that creep me out.

>>94267761
Which issue is that?
It better not be Spider-Man: Year One

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>>94267852
>mid tier.

>>94267572
>He didn't cry because of his mortality, he didn't cry because he was 15 he cried because they wanted him to cry and that was the wrong move.

>Panicked upon being in a situation that he was never prepared for and was close to death for the first time in his life
>Emotions are a bad thing now.

>>94267866
Ok, but this Aunt May isn't even in jeopardy, so arguably it's not even a recreation of that scene at all.
Not to mention he seems more in danger of passing out from monologuing than being trapped.

>>94267891
He literally bitched and moaned through out the entire movie. Why did it take an entire movie for spiderman to not be a bitch nigga?

>>94267897
>Spider-Man: Year One
Are you high? There is no such thing.

It's either Spectacular -1 or Sensational -1

>>94267944
>Spider-Man: Year One
Shit I meant to say Spider-Man: Chapter One

>>94267924
He was completely submerged under water with the base leaking. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>94267917
>was close to death for the first time in his life
He was in danger way more than that when he meant shocker and almost drowned without Tonys help, 2nd he literally stopped a goddamn 3 ton vehicle going 40 miles per hour he shouldn't have had trouble with the rubble whatsoever

>>94264574
umm what? captain America was around before spiderman, so was iron man.

>>94267866
>Even if that was true, which it's not.

Ten tell me anon what is it? The Tony Stark dick sucking meme?

>>94267944
I think they meant Chapter One which is full blown crap.

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>>94267914
>literally the middle tier

>>94264883
Spider-man grew up with superheroes in his world, he was influenced by them, mentoring however you are right. I see your point of him being a hero by himself.

>>94267281
how heavy is a boarding bridge to a plane? Not tank heavy but Pete is still growing.

>>94268018
>Beat up Thing
>Beat up Hulk.
Seems unreliable.
>Black Bolt's text bubble is blank.
kek.

>>94267973
Peter didn't bring them up or be inspired by them. Hell, he went to meet the Fantastic Four not out of hero worship but because he wanted money.

>>94268072
It's measuring physical strength, not overall power.
Spider-man is a dex build, and dex builds trump strength builds.

>>94267866
>Peter is completely selfish.

He's in a life and death situation you dipshit.

>>94267972
>2nd he literally stopped a goddamn 3 ton vehicle going 40 miles per hour he shouldn't have had trouble with the rubble whatsoever

Yes because he wasn't buried under a huge pile of rubble or anything right? More than sure it was way over 3 tons as well since he had to strain himself.

>>94268036
>Spider-man grew up with superheroes in his world
He did in the comics too. But where this Peter loves them, the 616 teen Peter hated nearly all of them save for a few examples.

>>94268090
>He's in a life and death situation you dipshit.
So is the one from the source material faggot.
>Yes because he wasn't buried under a huge pile of rubble or anything right? More than sure it was way over 3 tons as well since he had to strain himself.
How much do you think that boat weighs?

>>94265274
Implying I wouldn't watch Andrew 'Yeah I would probably fuck a dude' Garfield destroy DeHaan's boipussy.

>>94268018
>Tigra getting all thirsty for Peter.
What is it with him and cat girls?

>>94267476
>rookie mistake
well shit anon it's almost like he's a FUCKING ROOKIE OR SOMETHING!

>>94268092
More like they hated him and he responded in kind. Rumors just made spiderman look bad.

>>94264234
>responsibility
Isn't the final act spurred by Peter ignoring Vulture's offer, and going after him even when he knows that the FBI would probably catch him later down the line?

>>94263767
Valerian please, just because your movie flopped at the box office doesn't mean you have to lash out at the competition.

>>94267927
>15 year old teen
>what is a character arc?
It also makes the ending scene with him declining the Avengers more poignant because of him realizing his shortcomings.

>>94264137
That's honestly not saying much. The shit I just took is a better Spider-Man movie than anything after Spider-Man 2

>>94268036
Eh... I guess, but in the comics he never behaved like a fanboy. He admired Cap, but when her first met him with the Avengers, he did not

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Why do I keep coming into these threads? I hated this movie. I tried to hear why it's the best Spider-Man and all I hear is "It's true to the comics XD" which is a bald faced lie.
>>94265385
I mean.. even a cartoon for kids did it better.
https://youtu.be/ulLHFrc1gWI

>>94268778
Because the people who did Spectacular actually cared about the comics and understood the meaning behind the scene.

>>94268874
And to think the writers of Ultimate Spider-Man ragged on it for that very reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT5ArhC5htA

>>94267891
>emotionally trying
HoIy crap. By your posts he should've been crying every scene he flubbed up in. That's what 15 year olds do in real life. He should've cried at being yelled at by Stark. He should've been crying at nearly getting people killed (multiple times). He should've cried at being called Penis Parker at a social gathering in front of the girl he likes.
But wait... two of those scenes were played for Gits and shiggles. Obviously someone said "we NEED to have an emotional scene. But we don't really know Spider-Man outside of being jokey. Someone look up the top 10 emotional Spidey scenes!"

>>94267519
>Flash
Flash was never a stereotypical "shove you in a locker, wedgie, Pound for a buck" bully in the comics until Ultimate. He was however, shown to be a meathead normie. I think most of his appearences early on were just going "Parker the bookworm sure is anti social, right gang?" The one good thing I'll say about muslim Flash is that he embodies that meatheadness. Not exactly in a jock, football player way. Just going out of his way to come up with crappy insults for this kid he singled out.

Even though the reality is he was bullying Peter the same way they did in the Hey Pretty Boy webcomic. Seriously. Penis Parker? Even in elementary you would be outted as "too homophobic to be straight."

>>94265518
One of my favorite examples of 616 Peter being a fucking beast is the Shattered Dimensions game.
2099 and Ultimate have gauges to boost their fighting power, and Noir isn't too skilled in combat, so he goes stealth half the time.

Amazing doesn't have a gauge, and he fights head-on in every one of his levels. His Eight-Legged Fury attack is also the fastest and strongest of the four, leaving behind after images of his attacks like he did with Firelord way back when.

Don't fuck with 616 Peter.
Now if only slott was taken off the book.

>>94267394

If inner strength comes with a voice over of uncle tony, NO THANK U

>>94268778
it's literally the same but with more exposition instead of whining

>>94266891
>We'll never have that moment where its stated Peter becomes a juggernaut of confidence and will when he puts on the mask again.

>>94267439
He's still absurdly strong.
He has to consciously struggle not to punch people's heads off when he fights.

Charlie The Death Seeker found that out the hard way.

>>94269230
You know... it really says something when Toy Story 3 does that type of scene way better than a live action """kids""" movie.

>>94268018
> Jen begging Peter to do her
> Jesus during that embarrassing year He did a Marvel comic "because the kids love that stuff"

>>94267515

>This is a movie that needs to be taken somewhat seriously, not a fucking comic book

Im not sure what you watched but the comics are more serious than this try-hard bumbling idiot comedy film

>>94268018
>She-Hulk
>hitting on Spidey
I want this now.

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>>94268086
>>Peter didn't bring them up or be inspired by them.
Holy shit, what?

Its been canon for fucking DECADES that Peter's idol was Captain America.

Fuck this board, none of you know shit about comics.

>>94268156
He's not, he did heroing way before Vukture hell he even goes silent to sneak up on the robbers

>>94268348
Anon, you're talking to mouth breathers. I mean, in the scene with Glover he openly explains he's acting to prevent the neighbor from turning into a war zone, to avoid that people like Mexican Man get in harm's way because of those weapons but anons still go "wtf it's all abut Tony!!1!"

We're forgetting that in ASM 33 he was 18, and had years of experience under his belt.

And a villain hadn't threatened to murder his fucking friends and family if he went after him, which is exactly what Spider-Man just did. I'm glad they went with the "rookie Spider-Man breaks down and loses his composure" as it fit better in the context of the film than if they had adapted it wholesale.

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>Raimi movies are well received
>"These movies are the worst, Peter was whiny and dumb and always crying and MJ was a cunt, the REAL Peter didn't take shit from people and would make Columbine look like a fucking joke!"

>Webb movies have lukewarm reactions
>"Oh wow, this truly is the best cinematic Spider-Man, he's intelligent, nihilistic and has a wicked sense of humour, but of course Raimifags hate it cuz they don't know comics!"

>HC is well received
>"This movies is the worst, Peter was whiny and dumb and always crying and MJ was a nigger, the REAL Peter didn't take shit from the Avengers and would make Sokovia look like a fucking joke!"

>>94267654
This is wonderful anon. Good job.

>>94263964
Yeah, it's really ugly. Looks like some kind of goblin.

>>94269660
Are you arguing with some alternate universe were any of that shit happened?