Can they beat the Avengers? You pick the roster of regular Avengers

Depends. How many of the Avengers could destroy a galaxy in one move?

>>94257192
3

>>94257014
Didn't Superman already melt Goku's brains with his eye beams?

>>94257549
>>94257549
>Avengers

>>94257303
0

>>94257014

Sentry.

That it.

18 beat Carol

>>94257565
hulk, strange, thor odinmode

>>94257602
Those threads were great.

>dragon ball is entirely based on old foes becoming allies
>the avengers still spend more time fighting each other

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>>94257628
So, 0. Except for Odinmode Thor I guess, but he doesn't usually have that.

Thor, Hulk, Drax the Destroyer, Firelord (a Herald) and Doctor Doom all together, hitting a bearer of the Infinity Gauntlet as hard as they absolutely can with their strongest attack in complete desperation to end the fight immediately "only" throw out enough force to destroy a small planet. That's explicit. So, somewhere to the south of Saiyan arc Vegeta in terms of energy output. This is pretty consistently portrayed; the whole reason "Worldbreaker Hulk" even exists as a separate classification is that he's usually not strong enough to do even that.

>>94257014
Yes and quite easily, unless the Sentry is involved. In that case, they all die in a mist of blood.

Are we including Wanda?

>>94257894
If you want

>>94257014
Planet busting is still a genuinely big deal in the Marvel Universe and an extremely rare level of power that not the likes of Hulk and Thor are typically on. Meanwhile that level belongs to basically every named member of Freeza's army much less every character after them.

>>94257885
I wonder if /a/utists realize that /co/ was cheering for 18 in that fight?

>>94257904
Then Wanda at full power would wipe the floor of damn near everyone in Dragon Ball Super except Zeno.

>>94257602
>>94257885

Oh man, those were great threads. Best woman won, Carol got curb stomped and everyone just posted pics of 18 everywhere, shit... Who would have thought that DB would actually make /co/ happy?

Real talk. Outside of the heavy hitters, many of the Avengers would fall, but /co/ will NEVER admit this. Watch, someone here will swear Cap can win.

>>94257894
No, because she is a low level probability bender, unless you involved Bendis, then she is an insane gipsy bitch plot device.

>>94257747
Thats outdated

Hulk alone is planetbuster at base level now

Batman also kicked hulk in the gut to knock him out once a few decades back

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She can beat the entire Avengers

>>94257747
>>94257910
Reminder that Dragon Ball has streetlevelers popping planets and Goku being fucked up by mook lasers, and all it proves is that the Dragon Ball universe is weak and unstable. Throw in Thor and he'd accidentally instantly destroy universe 7 from swinging his hammer too hard at empty air.

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Leave the z fighters to me

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>>94258221
>leave the daily dose to me

>>94257014
Yes, they can beat the avengers except maybe the Hulk, Captain America, a few others.

>>94258348
How exactly can they not beat Captain America?

What the fuck is frieza doing there?

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>>94257014
There are some pretty shit avengers lineups, like the group that fought Lunatik, they'd have trouble putting down Nappa.

>>94258477
frieza is a good guy now like picoolo and vegeto

Squirrel Girl vs Arale

>>94258477
his best

>>94257955
It litterally could have been anything, as long as Carol lost is would have made /co/ have. The that is was db was just icing on the cake.

>>94258477
The current arc is about the strongest fighters from each universe fighting each other in a multiversal martial arts tournament, and if you lose your universe blows up.

Frieza is one of the strongest fighters from their universe so they brought him, even if he's an asshole.

>>94257966

Real talk, current Z Fighter beat the crap out of the Avengers.

>>94257859
>>94257910
>>94257747
>>94258348

Marvel is not DC. Not by a long shot.

>>94258693
Frieza's there since Buu fell asleep before the event started. I guess Toriyama thought it was so funny the first time, that he could recycle it.

>>94258693
why master roshi and not yamcha?

For real though why can't Arale be on the team?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0LRamI0p4k

>>94258753
Because Fuck Yamcha.

Honestly, I wish Krillin lasted more than he did. Poor sod trained like a mule and he still got fucked.

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>>94258796
Goku and Vegeta combined can beat Superman though, especially if they fuse

>>94258796
Krillin and Yamcha are stronger than Saiyan arc Vegeta at this point, and unlike the likes of Hulk or Thor he actually has unambiguously destroyed planets at his normal levels of power.

>>94258348
How the fuck couldn't they beat Cap?
Yamcha is stronger than Cap.

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>>94258834
Hahaha. No, they can't.

No more Universe 7 You tell me.

>>94258753
Master Roshi is a master of a wide variety of forms of martial arts and is great at combat analysis, he's still very perceptive when he needs to be and when fighting weird fighters that do weird shit, Roshi is probably one of the best sources of advice around.

Yamcha is retired, sadly.

>>94258846
I've never seen any evidence of Krillin or Yamcha being that powerful. Strangest humans yeah but not Planet Buster level

>>94258773
She's basically the Toon Force and would wipe everyone out by accident

>>94258858
Nazis don't job

>>94258876
>poorly written comic by a fanboy means he can beat anyone!
This is why people don't like superman anymore, because faggots like you write him like a god who does everything and has no personality outside of being THE BEST.

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Leave Universe 7 to us.

>>94258828
If Toriyama gave a fuck about progression roshi would have actually died of old age and krillin would have taken his place by now.

>>94258773
This is all weird when you consider that Roshi calls Dragon Ball a gag manga while breaking the fourth wall in the tenkaichi budokai.

>>94258935
Well, yeah. That's exactly why he can't lose.
Haha, what? You think they have a chance against something like that? Come the fuck on, anon.

>>94258949
In their glory days, sure, but those are behind them now.

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Are faggots seriously entertaining this idea?

>>94258919
Krillin reaches Saiyan arc Vegeta level when he has his hidden strength released by Guru. I vaguely recall them stating that explicitly. That was a really substantial powerup, but it's hard to tell because Krillin and Gohan were still weaker than all the big players on the planet.

The fact that they weren't instantly obliterated by the Ginyu force is proof of their powerup.

>>94258919
Krillin would have to be just measuring by his ability to hang in there for brief stretches during Frieza/Cell saga as well as his ability to even perceive extremely high level shit.

>>94258951
Dragonball was originally a gag manga, but became serious later on.
With days off.

>>94259107
I miss the sense of Adventure of the original Dragon Ball. I miss going in adventures to weird magical places and seeing Goku punching someone in the face.

Now we only have the punching someone in the face part.

>>94258834
>especially if they fuse

Then they end up with all their powers used up, and defuse after 2 minutes.

>>94259231
Nonsense. The adventures didn't go away. They just became space adventures.
Where Goku meets gods or aliens or whatever and punches them in the face.
They had a space adventure, a time travel adventure, a magic adventure, and now an omniverse adventure.

>>94257014

Superman/Supergirl/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter > Goku/Vegeta/Frieza > Thor > High end JL heroes > Hulk > Other Z fighters > Batgod > High end marvel heroes > Spider-Man > Street level DC > Street Level Marvel.

>>94259342
But remember the arc of Dragon Ball where Goku is trying to find the magical wind fan that would turn off the fire of ChiChi's castle?

I miss that sort of exploring and adventure. We even got a giantess waifu.

>>94259392
I hated that arc desu. Seemed like filler between piccolo arc and saiyan arc.

>>94259342
Buu was by no means a magic adventure, the only adventurous thing is Gohan going to the Kai planet. Cell also had very little time travel, the only person that did any time traveling was Trunks. Largely Cell and Buu sagas have the characters going from combat arena to combat arena on boring old earth. Location doesn't mean anything because of the travel capabilities of the characters involved.

I'd go so far as to say Dragon Ball had a massive adventure deficiency from Frieza straight up until Goku Black.

>>94259423
You, sir, have absolutely shit taste and I will recommend you to kill yourself.

Yes
One hakai and it's over

Final Flash Hakai when?

>>94259448
Buu is a magical genie monster made by a wizard. That's pretty magic if you ask me.

>>94259342
There's no sense of adventure, or world that matches the comfy atmosphere of Earth in OG Dragonball.

>>94258950
>died of old age
You remember he's immortal, right? Tears of the Immortal Phoenix? He's over 300 when he first met Goku.

>>94258753

Toryiama thinks everyone hates Yamcha because of all the memes, and ends up just scrapping him because that what he thinks his fans want

>>94261954
Toriyama is to Dragon Ball Is what George Lucas is to Star Wars, they created from it but don't have much to do with it now and just profit from it. It's a guy called Toyotaro who works on dragon ball now

>>94262221
Wrong, Toriyama was burned out on Dragon Ball for twenty years, only now is he returning to it. He's doing nothing wrong. The fan works (Mainly from the west) are a prime example of why Super isn't as bad as it people make it.

>>94262221
He actually writes the outlines still, Toyotaro writes the manga and they do the anime based off that same outline.

>>94262470
>came back to dbz after the terrible dragonball evolution movie because he didn't want that to be dragonball's legacy
>called toei out on their shitty animation not that it helped
>knows to hand off the manga to someone else so he can lend a hand with designs, etc

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>>94257014
yes, i think so

>>94258006
>hulk a planetbuster.
The fuck? Since when.

>>94257014
Doctor Strange BFR's them into another dimension.

Reed Richards was an avenger with Sue for two seconds. So I'm gonna cheat. Give him the ultimate nullifier and boom game over.

Keep in mind not everyone can use the nullifier. Quasar himself died because he wasn't smart enough to use it.

Hell use Black panther, beast, iron man, Reed and dr strange with their respective infinity gems to fight them.

Or hell throw in Hank Pym there make him grow to the point he meets abstracts themselves. That's how he defeated absorbing man in fear itself.

Or give Billy Kaplan a fair chance and he can solo as the demuigiurge

>>94258876
super autis coming through
give him room
he needs every iteration of superman canon and non canon

>>94266443
If that's not enough throw in starbrand. His power scared the living tribunal and he destroyed a beyonder with his power.

Or you I guess let sentry unleash the void.

>>94257955
>Who would have thought that DB would actually make /co/ happy?

Everyone? DB is really popular here

>>94266467
>DBfag projecting

>>94257014
every saturday we have these threads

I really like the Universe Survival Arc, and Frieza continues to be the best.

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>>94257014
adore her

>>94266202
Since World War Hulk. World Breaker remember?

>>94266541
Are you talking about Death Battle or Dragon Ball? Because I'm talking about Death Battle.

>>94266607
>superfag crying

>>94266202
he was one before world War hulk >>94266867
Even after that special armor in the 80s

>>94258740
Frieza is a popular bad guy in japan.
Plus if they bring him back to life then he can continue being a bad guy in the universe, and Goku and Vegeta would have a villian in the universe.

>>94266792

reminder that broly isn't canon

>>94258773
too powerful, unless some one from another universe had a gag character.

>>94267612
yeah, though I like the idea of a Lssj, toriyama didn't make it.

>>94258828
In every fight after his introduction the most Yamcha ever contributed was making everybody really pissed off at/impressed by the villain because of how badly they fucked up Yamcha. It happens in the fight with the saibamen, android 20, and in every single tournament.

>>94258919
He >>94259029 explains it. Krillin gets a reading of over 10,000 against Guldo. Less than an hour later, he holds his own against Ginyu in Goku's body, who was capped at 23,000. They just kept improving.

Gero thought Yamcha, after last registering 34,000, knowing they went through another arc in space, and three years of training, was Goku.

>>94263202
>calls Toei out
>still lets them touch his work when it's time to come back over a decade later

>>94267667
You won't be laughing when he drops into the Universe Survival Tournament unannounced and one-shots Jiren with his new Wolf Fang Fist

>>94258949
>A team of literal current day Jobbers
Okay Grandpa.

>>94267712
I will definitely be laughing if that happens.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m2PwbQFW46Q

Is this how it would go?

>>94267667
I think Yamcha could be defeated by a very skilled martial artist from our real world.

>>94257014
In theory Monica could defeat any of them, given how absurdly OP she is now.

But because she's so absurdly OP her job is now jobbing, so she'd probably be immediately dropped somehow.

>>94267813
I've never heard of an Avenger named Monica in my life.

>>94267697
This post got me curious what Vegeta was at during the saiyan saga so I found this http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_power_levels. Somebody dearly needs to learn to give a shit when they're throwing those numbers out there because you've got really wacky shit like Pilaf being 4x stronger than Goku when they first meet, and the fucking Ox King is more than 3x stronger than King Piccolo, and just the slightest hair weaker than Goku at the end of Dragon Ball.

>>94258133
God damn. the old animation was so fucking good. I can forgive the drawn out stories when you have this smuggy art style combined with smooth buildup.

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I kind of want Marvel to bring back the Annhilators because they were such a better group of "oh shit" heroes than the Avengers.

The Avengers always, ALWAYS have shcmucks like Hawkeye or Black Widow or Wasp or Swordsman or Ms. Marvel (the new one) on it.

Where's the team that consists of Thor (the one that isn't a cancer patient), Beta Ray Bill, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Guardian, Dr. Strange and Phoenix?

>>94268037
Why does that horse man dress just like Thor, anyway?

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>>94268066
He beat Thor up 1v1 with no hammers, and then Odin went "Well done, Cyborg Horse guy, now you can have your own hammer and shit" and ever since then he's been busy doing cool space stuff while Thor loses his powers/hammer every 2-3 years

>>94268116
That is a really impressive hat.

>>94268116
He sounds awesome

>>94267935
That would be a good idea. But as it is the further away from the manga the numbers are, the less sense they make. The worst thing is how many numbers are "over" or "almost" something in the manga and they get listed as the exact number.

>>94267839

cap marvel 2?

>>94268037
That still might be my favorite splash page in that event if not for Silver Surfer coming in with "Forces have been aligned" and then the fucking abstracts show up

>>94267935
you shouldn't bother with power level numbers anymore, no matter what the number is it changes do to the wild card of the writer, the whole point of introducing powerlevels was to say they are useless. That one picture with all the power level numbers was just measuring what their numbers would be at when growing stronger but still they don't fully measure the entirety of the characters abilities. This is proven when Roshi's techniques are still effective against frieza saga level characters.

>>94257694
It hurts

Are Krillin and Tenshinhan peak human or even above that?

>>94266948
death battle never made people happy but superfags.

Probably not. There must be some diminishing returns with their power ups because the Z fighters don't seem to have progressed much past planet busting. Just listen to super fans saying "but Goku is only using one one millionth of power in reality he is a galaxy buster".
Also if they are distracted or don't have their ki up they are made of paper.

>>94268446

Well they're human so they cant be above peak human because they keep setting the benchmark for what peak is

>>94268446
It's safe to say they are beyond peak human. Peak human is just biologically at the top, Krillian and Tien are past that thanks to Ki.

>>94268452
>>94266948

Yeah I was talking about Dragon Ball.

>>94268487
oh you

>>94268481

Ki is something everybody has

>>94268467
Goku and Vegeta are Galaxy+ by the most conservative estimates, arguably universal

Frieza is at least planet buster, safe to assume he is universal as well since he was planet busting with ease at the start of the series and is exponentially more powerful now

>>94268503
correct, but not everyone knows how to use it. Toriyama stated that it was thanks to Ki that allowed goku and the others to do superhuman things. Training allows them to control and increase their ki to make them beyond peak human levels. If Cap or Black panther were to learn how to use ki in the dragonball world they would be much stronger than Krillian or Tien, is my guess.

>>94268503
But not everyone can unlock from what I remember.

>>94257913
I think /a/ didn't even give a shit, it was just /co/ arguing with itself, pretending anyone cares about Carol

>Goku is only planet buster

https://youtu.be/LLxq3uIPpLk

>>94268558
there was another death battle? I thought /co/ hated carol.

>>94268517
That's why I think their power ups must come with some serious scaling. Nothing in the series seems to suggest they are that strong except that that's how strong they should be because of the introduction of power levels. We see the same old craters we have been seeing the same shaking when they power up.

>>94268601
>dub
there is a special place for hell for this.

>>94268601
>Goku can beat Superman

>>94268621
well that's the thing, people keep looking to feats as a way to power scale, but a lot of times what they do is just have the MC job to new bad guy and then improves for another round. If they kept doing what you suggested shit would get rediculous TTGL level real fast.

>>94268667
I think he can, just depends which one since Superman's streagths and weaknesses vary from writer to writer. I remember a Wizard article that theorized goku v superman with goku winning. He blasted Supes to the moon and apologised for the mistake because he was tricked by babidi. It was whole levels of stupid because it didn't understand goku's character or the series at all. Even then superman depending on which one would likely win.

>>94266443
>>94266502
>>94267813
This faggots. Avengers solo anytime

>>94268682
It's things like Goku going super Saiyan Cyan to fight Krillin and 18 or to fight almost anyone really. That form should be over kill. I should be mean spirited for him to use the form yet it's actually ba good fight and people just say he used one one millionth of his power.
You are right judging by the power levels the show should have been TTGL level by now. Still if they going all out and they make a Saiyan saga sized crater it just doesn't seem like anything has really changed except the hair color.

>>94268782
Krillin solos anytime.

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Fucking Faora from MoS can solo the Avengers, so of course they can.

Of course not. Scarlet Witch solos them.

>>94267587
They also have his voice actor on hand after doing Resurrection of F, and it was probably cheaper than bringing back PERFECTION as voiced by GRORIOUS WAKAMOTO

>>94267839
Monica Rambeaux.

>>94268900
>the second guy who teleports in just to be decimated

>>94268840
people still increase in power, Krillian went back to training, goku holding back was to see if Krillian can even keep up in a battle royal that anything could happen. His power did increase but not enough to anything to blue. That's why I don't rely on Toei for this shit because the whole point of all of that was to pad time and push more episodes. Until the manga agrees or says other wise I am going with the manga for canon power scaling.

>>94268990
Probably

>>94257014
>17, 18, picollo, krillin, tien
I'll buy it

BUT WHY THE FUCK
IS YAMCHA
THERE

I'LL EVEN BUY ROSHI FUCK

>>94267587
Broly's power level may be maximum, but Freiza's themesong is Maximum The Hormone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trT-QaYV4NM

>>94269103
that's gohan

>>94267935
As I recall Vegeta was stated to be at 18,000 in the saiyan saga, putting him at 180,000 in great ape. Over 1/5th of Frieza ain't too shabby.

>>94269026
>Not wanting to get dominated by Faora
That guy had taste.

>>94269103
He's not there. He got left behind because nobody but his pet talking cat has any faith in him. Which one in the picture did you think Yamucha is? That's Gohan next to Goku.

Honestly, the proper reaction from somebody not following the show should be 'WHY THE FUCK IS FREEZA THERE?'.

>>94269103
>BUT WHY THE FUCK
>IS YAMCHA
>THERE
Yamcha isn't there anon. That's mystic Gohan.

>>94269250
>>94269304
>>94269332
>Gohan
That's almost as bad as what post-Buu dbz has made of him

>>94269394
>post-Buu dbz has made of him
Well, you're not wrong. Hopefully he won't job too hard this time.

>>94269103

That's Gohan dude, Yamcha hasn't sported that haircut in ages.

>>94257885

18 got to be fucking awesome in the last episode some more, so far she's pretty much the MVP of U7 and despite 17's massive power gains she's totally outdoing him anyway.

>>94258042

Only if it's funny, that's how Toonforce works.

>>94269394

Gohan right now is one of the strongest people in existence without God Ki. Though they seem to be saving him for later during the actual tournament.

Squirrel Girl. Great Lakes Avengers

Bring 6 other jobbers whatever.

>>94269532
>squirel girl
>GLA
Who are they? I don't remember any great characters and property getting ruined and forgotten respectively.

>>94269414
>Hopefully he won't job too hard this time.
It's Gohan. His whole life, with one exception, is all about jobbing.

>>94269586

Hey at least he's not Vegeta, he doesn't even have one exception.

>>94258221
Sorry what function is this?

Reminder that Clint Barton is beautiful.

>>94269661
t. EMHpedro

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>Krillin is the first one eliminated

>not team U7 versus the Hulk/Surfer/Strange/Namor Defenders

>>94257694
The 2nd ever Avengers roster had 3 redeemed villains (Hawkeye, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch) so it's not that far off.
Hell even the 1st roster had people like Hulk, Pym and IM, who's level of heroism has varried quite a bit.

>>94269742

That did confuse and annoy me considering that after Gohan, Freeza and 17 he got the most build up.

At the same time im glad it wasn't Roshi.

>>94258693
Wasn't that already an arc earlier in Super?

>>94269817
Considering Tien got punked by Roshi in his recruitment episode, I was betting on him.

>>94269827
There was a similar arc. It was Universe 6 vs Universe 7 on the fate of Earth. Zeno liked the idea so much that he decided to have a tournament between 8 of the 12 universes. Goku reminded him about it after the Black arc and here we are.

>>94269742

>finally time to shine
>gets fridged

fucking hell none of them are even trying to be a team.

>>94269833

Tien got punked by Roshi and then Gohan made him his little bitch. Yeah I was expecting him to be first too.

>>94269847
Lame.

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>>94257014
No more anime

>>94269875
Did you not watch Dragon Ball? It followed a formula of dragon ball arc → tournament arc → dragon ball arc. This is just returning to it's roots.

>>94257747
That's outdated

Drax is reborn officially (and actually weaker strength wise)

And that's not even Thor Odinson

>>94269931
Sort of, except now it's all multiverse and powerlevels instead of characters with clever gimmicks like Bacterian or Chaozu. And with "if you lose, everybody dies" stupid stakes.

Gotta admit the first tournament was more entertaining than the rest of Super.

>>94259342
A battle does not mean an adventure.
Adventure is about exploring, meeting dangers and mystery. DB had so many cool places in contrast to Z's canyon, sky and city(namek was neat I guess)
DB had dungeons, castles, villages, korin's tower, rolling country sides full of strange monsters, dinosaurs and beast men.
searching for treasure, befriending bandits, mermaids, mummies and mammaries.

When you think of Freeza onward, it's all about the fights, all taking place in the city and it's outskirts(sky and canyons) playing as passable backrounds to whatever flickering character animation that passes for fight choreography.

>>94269903
>favourite things are mutants and anime
Fuck you Wanda
I don't like the mutants in anime though

>>94268116
>He beat Thor up 1v1 with no hammers
This really gets overrated

It was basically equal, that's the whole point of Bill, there is someone in the universe just as powerful as Thor in both strength and character.

>>94258043
>Goku being fucked up by mook lasers

That's because he let his guard down. Can be said with Superman if his kinetic krytonian shield is not an automated system.

>>94270409
Goku's entire character right now is letting his guard down you duplicitous double nigger. That and teaching opponents how to be stronger

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The Ningen is immunized against all attacks: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, sinner, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat.

But call him a Ningen and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: I've been found out.

>>94257192
>literally doesn't know the material he's a fan of

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>>94257014
Black Panther can take them

>>94257014
>Can they beat the Avengers?
Easily. But could they beat the Justice League?

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Krillin or Tien alone could beat Cap and Iron Man by themselves lads, let's be real.

>>94268027
You're aware that was a movie, right? They had good animation because they had a better budget.

>>94257014

Ehhh. The Avengers are kinda outclassed. The only team that would have a chance, with requirements OP has, is Classic Thor, Quasar, Sersi, Nova(Rich), Sentry, Iron Man(Thorbuster), Hyperion, Monica, Herc & Namor.


Maybe.

>>94257014

Dragonball Piccolo would beat the Avengers, lol.

>>94272043
>lol
Reddit detected.

>>94272173

>>>/b/

>>94271802
No, that is from a TV special and it had a TV special budget. More than a normal episode to be sure, but certainly not a movie budget.

>>94272188
>postnumber
>full line brake
>post
Wow he was spot on

>>94272425

>>>/b/

>>94272425
>brake
To come to a halt? To slow down? I hate you BREAK it to you but you used the wrong word.

>>94272483
Fuck off Luan

>>94266443
Quasar died because The Magus used the Infinity Gauntlet to counter the Ultimate Nulifier.

>>94267612
Good. Fuck Broly.

>>94257014
The Z fighters can work better as a team opposed to the Avengers.

>>94270182

Seeing a little bit of the other universes has been nice at least, it's one thing super does better than z.

>>94258828
>Honestly, I wish Krillin lasted more than he did. Poor sod trained like a mule and he still got fucked.
wow i can't believe dragonball super built something up with no payoff