Caitlin Fairchild and the New 52

>>94250463
There is a Wildstorm special coming out she is in

>>94250500

Oh awesome news to hear, I love Gen13, you have a link to more info?

>>94250463
She was some scientific baddie and then joined the Ravagers with red Beast Boy and the daughter of Deathstroke, Eugene jobbed to Kon and the rest just make a few cameos.
I think Editorial was plannigg to do somehting with the original members and Superboy but nothing ever came out.

>>94250744
3 pages by J Scott Cambell himself
>>94250860
wasn't she in Supergirl or something?

>>94250922
Yeah that was. There was a two page back up with the entire original team. Something was foreshadowed like a reunion or something.

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>we made her a special bra and panties that can stretch and grow with her size changing ability

>but to make the rest of her suit of of the same material was too expensive

I was Kind of disappointed by how most of WS characters were used during new 52. It t feels like the only thing writters actually put some effort was in Planetary and that was half assed.

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Thread needs more Fairchild

>>94250922
>Tfw Gen 13 is outdated and SJW would REEE if something similar to Gen 13 is done
I hate this timeline

The only Gen13 stuff even worth reading is Warren's and even then the Mongolian Barbecue Horde are better than most of the main characters, Roxy and Grunge being the exceptions. Shit Roxy is adorable and the fact they couldn't find any place at all for her in the New 52 was kind of ridiculous.

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>>94251310
me too
why can't comics be fun again

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>>94251228
yes

is an ongoing even possible these days?

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>>94252185
There's one possible team up...

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>>94252263
unironically one of the best Superman stories ever

>>94251888
That issue where she went jungle I must have fapped to a million times to when i was a youngster

>>94251310
Hell, even Warren Ellis thinks Gen 13 is something too stupid to work out in this times.

>>94252413
Gen13 is only stupid if you keep the fanservice in. Basically you remove 90% of it and you got a pretty solid premise and cast.

>>94252878
But Gen 13 was all about cheesecake anon.

>>94252263
this crossover was awesome

really

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>>94252413
Ellis is clinically retarded if he thinks anything Wildstorm would be more more than Gen13

>>94252892
Sure but I'm talking about the dumb fanservice.
>like the time they went on a random pirate adventure
>or when they were at a lingerie fashion show
>or anything to do with Grunge
Cut out all the fat and you got something akin to Runaways.

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>>94252961
that's literately the best parts though

>>94252975
No those were the dumb parts.
Dumb and indulgent writing that leaves forgettable plots and characterizations.

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>>94253047

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>>94252961
Can we keep the over-the-top silly, nude drama?

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>>94253057
sorry comic books were fun once

>>94253064
Of course

>>94253064
The ending still bothers me.

>>94253094
You need your meat and 2 veg before you can have chocolate cake.

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>>94253162
why though

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>>94252961
>Tfw the closest thing to Gen 13 we will get is SJW Gen 13
It hurts

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>>94253180

Alright lads how can we make Gen 13 be acceptable in current times?

>>94253859
make it as problematic as possible
so unacceptable it becomes acceptable
or just have Gillen do it

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>>94253859
We just do it exactly how we would have done it if the series had continued without being canceled. If any SJW backlash hits, we don't acknowledge it. If any tumblr backlash or sexism accusations come around, we do not change anything because of said accusations. Nor do we add a strawman mockery of the people that hurl sexism/political correctness accusations at us, nor do we poke fun at them. And we especially don't try to intentionally piss them off. We just do our own thing, make changes as the story goes, hire back some old and new artists/writers who either worked on the original, understand the spirit of the original, were inspired by the original, newcomers who want to work on a project like this, or just people who we feel would be a really good fit for the project. And we have as much beefcake as we have cheesecake because why the fuck not.

People are going to complain no matter what. Fighting back is just what those kind of people want. They want to get into arguments, they want to get rilled up, and both sides want to jump on each other to get into a war of words. As soon as you acknowledge or try to placate the sjw vs anti-sjw crowd, you have lost. The only way to win is to do your own thing and not care what pissy people who get off on arguing on the internet have to say. Oh and IGNORE TWITTER for anything else except promotion. Do not engage with fans both pro and negative.

>>94253859
Fairchild is now a fatty. Grunge is now black because we can't have male asians in funny books. Burnout is now a queer, Rainmaker stays a queer. Roxy is now a fan girl and wears rimmed glasses

>>94254295
too reasonable for these times, sadly

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>>94254210
>Gillen
It will be space lesbian utopia all over again.

>>94254394
but more lewd

>>94254456
but also more annoyingly smug

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>>94254584
more smug you say?

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if Youngblood could get a reboot in 2017 that's actually pretty good, there's no reason someone couldn't do something creative with a way more interesting team

>>94254698
I know it's possible but without the cheesecake it won't be the same. I mean. Gen 13 was dumb af, bt it was good dumb.

>>94254295
Who would be your main cast?

>>94250463
Just fucking punch her into the Sun, Superboy. Come on, even Kara can do that.

>>94256018
>Tfw Kon is dead for good

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>>94256663
he should be brought back and Gen13, Young Justice and LoSH should get constant crossovers

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>>94252878
>Gen13 is only stupid if you keep the fanservice in.
>Gen13 without fanservice

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>>94256888

>>94253057
t. NO FUN ALLOWED!!!!

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>>94256913

>>94253153
In what way? Warren took a bad situation of getting the book cancelled out from under him and having the caveat that all the team needed to be killed to make way for Claremont's shitfest and got a really nice and moving story out of it. Those last three issues are great.

>>94256845
I wouldn't mind to see a Gen 13 appearance in Young Jusice.

>>94256888
>>94256913
>>94256937
Who wrote this?

>>94257926
Adam Warren

>>94256927
Your fun ends where my need for engaging writing begins.

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>>94254456
If we get an actual latin or mexican qt then fine.

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>>94258502
Gen13 isn't the comic for you, don't ruin it for us

>>94258776
I'm not gonna ruin it, I'm just looking to make it better.

>>94258897
But anon, if you take the cheesecake away you will take the spirit of the series.
>>94254698
More please.

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>>94258897
you're retarded

>>94259080

>>94259155
Noise

>>94259080
You can keep the scantily clad teenage girls, I'm just looking to get rid of the glaring issue that gen13 is an early image comics.

>>94258897
>sees a thing that people like, but they don't care for
>I'mma take this and make it what I want!
>please don't take our thing
>I WILL TAKE YOUR THING IN THE NAME OF MY TUMBLR GODS, PEASANT!

go and stay go. Comics are not for you. You should not take which belongs to someone else. Otherwise you are but a thief and a murderer.

>>94252263
Can someone storytime it or give me a link?

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>>94259596
if you're not a fan of Gen13 why would you want to do anything with them anyway
you're retarded
>my silly comics made to entertain teenage boys aren't serious enough

>>94259686
Because I am a fan and I think we can do better.

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>>94259762
I don't get it at all
it should be as fun as possible
that's what made them unique in the first place, separated them from all the other teams
removing the zaniness is killing what made it interesting (besides bewbs & legs)
>>94259638
I have nothing going on tonight, should I start a new thread or just dump it here

>>94259762
No you're not.
A fan enjoys something for what it is.
Wanting to take out a significant piece of what a work is and replace it with something more to your taste is not being a "fan"

you're the kind of faggot who would look at Superman and say "I'm a fan, but this comic would be better if we took out the cheesy nice guy part of Superman and replaced it with a power-mad asshole who murders people" Or looks at a show like Law & Order and says "I'm a fan, but it would be better if we got rid of all this legal stuff and just made it about sitting around a coffee machine bitching"

Fans love a work for what it is. Faggots make a work change to fit their tastes.

>>94260290
Dump it here.

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>>94260401
yessir
this is first story that made me appreciate Superman and not think of him as a fag

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>>94260457
>>94260497
>Superman/Gen13 storytime
for archival purposes

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>>94260533

>>94260457
>>94260497
>>94260533
>Superman/Gen 13 storytime
Yes sir! Thanks anon.

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>>94260605

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>>94260649
>>94260643
you're welcome anon I love it

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>>94260690

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>>94260737
I genuinely had no idea why people liked Superman before this except that purple guy from the cartoon

>>94260223
>Unique
>he actually thinks gen13 is unique
Nothing aboutbis unique, there is not a single thing about this series that's original.
All you're defending is shitty writing that you have deluded yourself into thinking is fun.

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>>94260793
I only read 2 DC comics at the time
Marz' Green Lantern and Dixon's Robin

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>>94260807
fuck off and fist yourself
>>94260845

>>94260290
So a fan swallows shit and asks for more.
This is why we don't talk about gen 13 on /co/, because the fans are thin skinned nostalgiafags who can't handlte criticism.

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>>94260807
go jerk off your boring ass comics and then kill yourself
>>94260883

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>>94260915
>no fun allowed
we don't talk about Gen13 on /co/ cuz /co/ doesn't talk about good things
Hellboy paradox or count the Eisner storytimes
>>94260916

>>94260915
wow, I never met a fag before who could contain the entire faggotry of a pride parade at once. I would congratulate you, but I don't think you can hear me over the massive amount of cocks you're sucking.

you're not criticizing anything. you're just shitting on stuff people like to make you feel better.

>>94260845
>that las panel
Heh, this is a nice easter egg.

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>>94260966

>>94260883
>>94260916
I'm the only one in this thread anon so e stop storytiming and accept that no one likes gen13.

>>94260966
/co/ storytimes Hellboy all the time anon, no one storytimes gen13 because they know it's not worth the effort.

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>>94260966
>>94260999
dubs and trips
nice
>>94260984
fantastic right?
the art was real tight

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>>94261046
>>94261004
fag
>>94261042
where are the Eisner storytimes? or Groo?

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>>94261110

>>94260978
No one likes this shit. There's no exciting plot or interesting characters and all the jokes suck.
>GRUNGE LIKES VIDEO GAMES AND NAKED LADIES HAHAHAH
So it's not even a good comedy book.

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>>94261141

>>94260916
...hmmm, we seldomly see superman caring (or accidentally crashing) for a single civilian in this manner. This usually happens to crowds or to other heroes.
I already liked him before this, but... it humanizes him more? I don't know how to put it.
Its nice.

>>94261110
It's not even good at being bad, the whole thing reeks of mediocrity.

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>>94261150
>REEEEE people had personality once

>>94261176

>>94261213
your favorite things are bad, not even mediocre

>>94260999
thanks for the storytime anon, you are not alone

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>>94261231
>>94261212
it's a real sweet moment

>>94261231
>people had personality
Not in this series, I dare you to describe Bobby's personality to me.

>>94261046
Yeah, i like it a lot. Its like house style but without the extra details. Its refreshing.

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>>94261271
no problemo at all, hope you enjoy it
>>94261273

>>94261150
>no one likes this shit

objectively false. I'm enjoying. The guy storytiming it obviously enjoyed it. and it sold enough issues to run for years. People liked this.

you're just a salty fag.

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>>94261280
he subverted the fire user trope and was pretty cool and collected, strong principled and fun

>>94261325

Wasn't there a Gen13 trade that was supposed to come out this year? I see it on Wikipedia but not on Amazon.

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>>94261347
in 1994, Gen13 had 16 of the top selling 100 comics for that year
>>94261398

>>94261347
The guy who storytiming likes shit. You think this is at all an indicative of the quality of the series? Gen 13 was juvenile sloppy writing.

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>>94261438
I think it was cancelled
Gen13 and Generation X are my two favorite series from childhood and will never be collected in a good way
>>94261452
this page is the next and last page of the first chapter but can't post because duplicate whatever>>94252263
>>94252263
>>94252263

>>94261398
>cool and collected
He was boring
>strong principled
Non-evident
>fun
Clearly not

>>94261467
Then why are you still here? If you don't like this, just leave. There are like 150 extra threads in the catalog, there should be something more interesting to you other than being a salty fuck here.

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>>94261467
please leave
this is one of the better Superman stories to ever come out, you don't deserve to read it
>>94261598

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>>94261654
2nd exhilarating issue !

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>>94261703

>>94261616
>why are you still here
You don't see a gen13 thread everyday.

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>>94261612
please extinguish your life
>>94261762

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>>94261803
I might change that
>>94261830

>>94261654
I own it, I own quit a lot of gen13 issues. I wasn't kidding when I said I was fan and I was ready to discuss what I like about the series when I came into the thread.

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>>94261897

>>94261897
You won't change shit, no one want to discuss gen13 because no one cares about it.

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>>94261949

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>>94261997
I could start more threads than an autistic Gwenfag
>>94262009

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>>94262055

>>94262055
the dubs confirm the truth of your words, but let's not get crazy now.

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>>94262133
don't tempt me
it'd be better than a million Rebirth circlejerk threads
>>94262182

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>>94262483
these crossovers were the first time I was read a Fantastic Four or Spider-Man story too

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>>94262545

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>>94262593
and The Maxx

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>>94262629

>>94260457
Bermejo's Metropolis is still the best looking Metropolis in my mind.
>imblying
I'M SPARTACUS

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>>94262693
g
end of issue 2!

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>>94262748

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>>94262716
his Gotham is darn good too
>>94262789

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>>94262888
such a sweet looking Superman

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>>94263024

>>94262545
I dont get how she could start a fire on a whole block while saving a cat, but holy shit. Its funny as fuck.

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>>94263099
I miss Superman's mom making his costume

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>>94263144
>Ambush Bug wouldn't've screwed up like this!

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>>94263476

>>94261467
>>94261612
>>94261803
>>94261914
>>94261997
>>94253057
>>94252961
>>94252878
>It's an Anon gets upset and throws a tism fit because he wants to write a "serious' Gen 13 series and everyone calls him out on being a retard episode

Anon please kill yourself. Gen 13 was and will always be proudly low brow. Whatever half baked reimagining you have going on in your head would probably be dog shit anyway.

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>>94263529
that will never not be funny to me

>>94263569
>her pupils have turned into hearts
First time I've noticed that, fantastic detail!

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>>94263555
oh trips of truth compels him
wanting "more" of Gen13 is wanting something different from Gen13
make it as fun as fucking possible at all times
comics used to be fun and actually sell a ton
but these psuedo comfy bullshit the Big 2 has published for the past decade is the reason kids don't care anymore
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>>94263629
it's a pairing of two terrific artists, you can tell they really cared about this one
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>>94260290
I think that what >>94258897 was trying to say it's that he wanted to see a different approach. I mean, he says he wanted a Gen 13 ongoing that actually takes itself seriously.

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>>94263766
but... for what purpose? strip it away and remake it something completely different seems like they could just do stories with a different teenage superhero team instead
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>>94264351

I have no real feelings on Gen13 one way or another and Superman leaves me pretty cold at most tines. Despite one anons protestations however I'm still enjoying the story.

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>>94264426
I'm glad you're enjoying it, just a wonderful little story that made me respect Superman
ta-da that's the end

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>>94264571
Warren is absolutely a madman if he thinks there's a larger audience out there for Wildstorm or Deathblow than Gen13

>>94264571
thanks for storytime anon

>>94264631
I don't know. I like it but none of the attempts to reboot it go anywhere. Maybe it only really works as a weird 90s artifact.

>>94264666
you're welcome Devilman
>>94264719
there's a Youngblood ongoing that's good
Spawn's getting a movie
Twin Peaks is back on tv
Azrael is in a comic again
anythings possible

>>94264719
maybe they could work as something akin to powergirls "powertrip" book? A goofy and fun book in the middle of a bunch of " this is something serious" books could be nice.

>>94263836
Not that anon but I think that would be different approach and would made a good elseworld.

>>94264571
Thanks for the storytime. The plot was more than a little cheesy but it was a comic written for the fun of it. Kicked the shit out of a lot of Marvel's resent stuff.

>>94263569
I never tought I would say this but Roxy is best girl indeed.

>>94264631
Thanks for the storytime senpai.

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>>94266503
you're welcome
I'd put it in a modern "best of Superman" collection if they still did those

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>>94263555
>Gen 13 was and will always be proudly low brow
I worry people arguing for and against a change to Gen 13's style seem to genuinely believe this as their stance.

Gen 13 had unabashed teen movie moments sure enough, but it also used the assumed superficiality of teenagehood as a cover for addressing topics that come with actually being a wayward youth.

The kids for example weren't just conveniently orphans so the writers didn't need to bother about parents and could get to the reckless abandon bits. That last part happened indeed, but often with someone in the group recognizing their revelry was avoidant often detrimental behavior, like Caitlin and Bobby getting flustered about the reality of their absent or present fathers who were violent and withdrawn and not how they imagined or idealized them in their head.
Now tension between a parent and child is nothing novel in teen fiction obviously, but the point is the kids weren't completely clueless and shallow, they often even poked fun at the fact people thought this of them or that they were intentionally putting on the guise because negligence had thus far been the simplest way to just not have to deal with old problems or make new ones so far. Grunge, Roxy and Bobby more or less espouse this in various ways to a baffled Caitlin and disgusted Sarah. One of my favorite moments is Bobby telling Grunge he's as much a boy going through puberty as him, he just knows how to act like he has some sense due to his background trying to fit in a new home compared to Grunge who has always had too much room to be himself to know how to turn off.

Gen 13 wasn't always this substantial with the subtext, but it had levels of commentary and thought on issues and matters of individuality growing up as a wayward teen I've scarcely seen done so well. That goes for some of the plots and power use too.

tl;dr Don't sleep on G13 just because of what is often shown instead of what isn't often seen.

what are the best of Gen13 to check out?

>>94268574
I like the J. Scott Campbell run and Ordinary Heroes.

>>94268574
I like the Adam Warren run and . . . the Gail Simone reboot.

New52 was a mistake

>>94253094
dat Leegor

So is The Wild Storm canon to the rest of the DC universe? When will I get my Grifter/Red Hood crossover?

>>94254296
I fucking hated Rainmaker. Anna was hot, though.

>>94263024
Ah man. Look at that face. Poor Clark.