/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

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What is she, /swco/?

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>what is she /swco/?

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ywn have a flat qt slavefu

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VOTE Gar saxco for a better Mandalore!

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small bosoms are trash and should be genocided

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>>94231664
Sabine is shit. I want the other flatfu

>>94231688
More like gay sexo

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>>94231688
BTFO: A Gar Wars Story

>>94231853
*tips fedora*

>>94231853
>pssh, nothing personnel, kid

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>>94231853
still sexy
>>94231807
>>94231757
stop bullying Gar

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Your heresy is at an end. This is now an Imperial thread.

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>>94231935
fuck off you fucking idiots

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>>94231993
Empire has the best waifus. Something about a woman in uniform...

So can anyone catch me up on TLJ leaks?

I'm hearing stuff about Force penguins and Force sloths, and Rey being the reincarnation of the first Jedi.

What's the skinny?

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>>94232045
I agree. I want to motorboat Pryce and I want SS to sit on my face.

Who was the biggest Sue/Stu in the EU? I'm talking about a character that would make Rey haters go "oh shit, I'm sorry". There were decades of content made by hundreds of authors so there has to be at least one ridiculous Sue in the old canon.

>>94232046
A FUCKING SLOTH

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>>94232045
I wouldn't say best but I could hardly fault them

>>94232046
>Force penguins
they're puffin/sealpup creatures called porgs that have nothing to do with the Force
>Force sloths
rumor-mill
>reincarnation
rumor-mill

>>94232101
fuck you nigger I was about to post that now I have to post the other meme

>>94232122
Durge, easily

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Tumblr star wars shit that pissed you off

>>94232062
Atton's right though, the Jedi and Sith (especially in KOTOR ) are huge dicks that drag everyone else into their conflicts.

>>94232148
Where's the one that says that tarkin is a racist AND a sexist

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>>94232154
>kotor
>avellone

>>94232171
The discussion is about KOTOR, yes.

>>94232137
>Durge
But Durge died.

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>>94232170
she delete it, I can't find it

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>>94232148
>they don't know that Ezra has a perfectly normal sexuality except that he likes to get railed by dickgirls from time to time

>>94232275
Durge was last seen hurtling into a sun on board a sealed escape pod, but considering how ridiculously overpowered he was, he may well have survived were it not for the canon purge.

>>94232122
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fay

>>94232284
>biromantic
>demisexual

I refuse to believe these are words.

>>94232346
IRRC he got wrecked almost every time he appeared.
Obi didn't love to him in Genndywars, did he?

>>94232382
*lose to him

>>94232122
I'd say Starkiller but he died and had dark side autism.

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>>94232045
>woman in uniform.
i agree

>>94232375
It means he dates anyone but only fucks people he gets super close to
it's fucking nonsense, because genderspecials need to feel even more special without just saying 'yeah I'm bi' or 'i'm gay' they need MORE big important buzzwords

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>>94232284
I like how you losers literally have nothing better to do than trawl for trash.

>>94232441
I don't how someone like that could deny the snowflake label.

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>>94232346
>implying Durge can be stopped by his reality being erased
>imagining Durge won't smash through the fourth wall with his hyperchrged powers to shit up nucanon as well
He can't be stopped.

>>94232403
>>94232382
No (obviously, because Obi-wan had to be alive to make it to ROTS and ANH), but he was functionally invincible and survived the sort of cessation-of-existence Warhammer 40K scale BTFOs that, if Superman himself faced them, would have killed him off in comics for good.

>>94232275
>>94232412
Dying is one of the defining traits of a Sue, especially if that person's death has a major impact on everyone around them or if it's some kind of sacrifice that saves everybody.

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>>94232476
>>94232485
I always liked Durge. He's any more fanficy than Ventress IMO. (Who created Ventress, by the way? I don't know).

>>94232473
>implying durge won't bust a hole open into reality

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>>94232473
Durge was so bullshit OP he could defeat both Xenomorphs AND a The Thing

probably simultaneously too

>>94232442
look up star wars concept art you will run into this shit.

suffer with me

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>>94232148
This Tumblr snowflake shit doesn't so much piss me off as much as it makes me lol. Same with the extreme-/pol/-tier shit where BB-8 is a metaphor for cuckoldery or the Death Star represents welfare queens or something.
Both tend to be so baffling and hilarious - it's like showing 100 rorshcach inkblots to someone and all they see is dicks - you can show star wars to these people and all they see is their own mental obsessions.

>>94232682
You can also tell how they are all invariably yaoi-fangirl fake nerd imbeciles who CLEARLY never partook in the consumption of the media of whatever fanbase they pretend to be in for social capital.

If they had actually ever watched the movies instead of seen pictures of random things boys pay attention to when they're not paying attention to them, they'd know the Artoo is referred to as "he" and "him" about 30-40 times in the movies alone.

So who is going to end up stealing the ST spotlight from Rey, Luke or Kylo? You just know she's going to be horribly outshined.

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>>94232682
oh this, so /pol/ did make it, thanks

>>94232518
George Lucas

>>94232871
Really?
I do remember something about her starting out as a possible part of AotC.

>>94232518
Genndy Tartakovsky

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>>94232802
Dunno if they actually did. It could ba a Poe (the law, not the pilot) but it's honestly impossible to tell. Even if it was made as a joke, there would probably be people out there who would believe it.

>>94232802
>/pol/ complaining about white males being represented as angry pathological white supremacist/christians
>all that other retardation
its just ironic shitposting r-right?

>>94232918
Source pls.

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>>94232415
Why have we yet to get a major female villain in a Star Wars movie? At least you can make them flawed without people losing their minds and cry sexism

>>94232122

Even the shitty sues still had flaws. You're never going to find one with less flaws than Mary Rey Sue

Every single badass character at some point still loses, even Boba fett.

>>94232965
>Daala
but she's a horrible example. She was so fucking incompetent.

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>>94232926
>Cancerous_Ordo.jpg

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Cute.

>>94233012
The plot had a way to bring her back again and again though, one of the reasons I won't shed tears over the old EU even if the new is even more retarded

But even so she still accomplished more and felt more threatening than any of the current imperial villains

>Daalanon is back
I thought you gave up on this

>>94233072
>But even so she still accomplished more and felt more threatening than any of the current imperial villains
Did you even read Thrawn? Or watch rebels?

>>94233004
>at some point still loses
>1/3 of the way through her story
We'll have to wait and see on that one, won't we?

I think back to ep.1 Anakin - he had arguably a higher untrained powerlevel (at age nine or whatever) and everyone more or less liked him. The story drew on that to make him into an overconfident cocky asshole whose natural abilities drew the ire of his contemporaries and whose anger at not being promoted fast enough left him open to manipulation. And a good, interesting character was the result.
Remember there was no plan going forward when they wrote TFA. There's no reason a good writer/director can't make something of Rey yet.

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>>94233072
It's quite bad when a tiny woman seems more dangerous than any of the villains in the Force Awakens.

>>94233170
>expecting an eufag to pay attention to content which proves him wrong
lmoa

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How are they going to handle showing Kylo Ren destroying the New Jedi Order? The saga films don't do flashbacks.

>>94233072
>Daala is more scary than a guy who autistically raged so hard he destroyed an entire system
right

>>94233170
I remember watching last season of Rebels which had Thrawn keep letting the best members of the rebellion escape again and again so he could get to their base, only for him to lose them in the end

>>94233217
They've already done several flashbacks/visions in Episode 7 and in the trailers for 8. I'm sure that's what they'll do again.

>>94233217
Force vision? Like when Rey grabbed the lightsaber, only with Luke's help to stabilize the visions. That's my guess. Yoda tells luke 'other places you will see through the force - the past, the future' or something like that. And there's what looks to be a shot of the burning jedi academy in the TLJ teaser.

>>94233170
Most imperials in Rebels are Saturday morning cartoon tier outside of Thrawn.

>>94233221
Doesn't really matter when no one seems to mind much that the system got blown up, and they didn't seem to have been doing much either anyway

>>94233246
>Thrawn losing in rebels
so you didn't watch it, roger roger

>>94233170
We already went through this with him like a week or so ago.

TL;DR - He ignores all canon examples that prove him wrong, as well as blatantly hasn't watched/read a lot of canon stuff.

Although last time he was even more retarded, proposing the idea that there would never be any strong female villains anymore "becuz disney", and then had to eat his words when people were listing half a dozen new strong female villains that easily exceed his precious Daala.

>>94233197

Dumbo ears called TLJ, ESB 2.0, Disney freaked and had him retract what he said.

That's all I need to be told.

>>94233264
>any of the current imperial villains
>Bring up a valid point
>well the rest are bad
Tarkin exists still, anon. He had Aresko fucking gutted, remember

>>94233300
Daala only existed to bring Tarkin down as a character.
I see. I'll stop responding at once.

>>94233275
I didn't say Thrawn lost, I said he lost them, learn to read, he basically failed to secure his main objective, which will ultimately be why he fails in the end, so it becomes rather laughable that he allowed the best members of the rebellion to escape again and again, as their capture would seemingly have lead to the rebellion collapsing considering the track record and survivability of anyone not part of the Ghost's crew

>>94233300
Which is funny, considering that Pryce exists. She's an unsorry cunt who killed people to get to the top, it seems the opposite of what he says disney is doing with 'muh feminism'

>>94233197

They removed all the flaws Luke had in ANH, and they carbon copied ANH.

Somehow you're not seeing the pattern or you just enjoy eating shit, I'm not sure. If the first didn't prove to you what is going on, nothing I could possibly say will make it sink in.

>>94233302
It's also been said that he's "going to places and investigating things that haven’t really been done in the 'Star Wars' universe".
It's all speculation until Christmas though. I say innocent until proven guilty.

>>94233264
Grinky was imposing and threatening and successful in basically every appearance he has until he died.

Tarkin (while not a new character) was very threatening.

Pryce is stronger in the Thrawn novel, but she too has not been shown to be incompetant at the hands of the Rebels.

Seventh Sister only failed due to Fifth Brother, and lost at the hands of Ahsoka and Maul, both of whom easily outmatched her.

Maul is Maul and did a lot of shit, killing 3 characters and blinding Kanan.

Vader needs no explanation.

Thrawn was successful for the entire season, and his book. He even debatebly sucessfully completed his final mission of wiping out the Rebels base. It was thanks to the dumbfuck Konstatine that any Rebels slipped through his fingers at all. And he shot the motherfuckign Bendu out of the sky.

So who exactly are the saturday morning cartoons exactly? Fifth Brother? Aresko and Grint? (May the rest in peace, we'll never forget you niggas)

>>94233197
Don't even bother, anon. Rey haters are never going to be convinced otherwise.

>>94233302
>Dumbo ears
????

>>94233367
Having watched Rebels she seems rather incompetent, she nearly manages to achieve butt monkey status

>>94233401
Thank you for this post, I can't wait for him to shout 'babby show for babbys!'

>>94233197
Anakin wasn't the protagonist of TPM. He was also the Chosen One, which you might find cliche, but it was who he was so quickly in tune with his abilities.

Also the PT was literally a tragedy about the protigee Anakin Skywalker losing it all.

The ST is not a tragedy. It's a hero's journey, except without the journey. Rey is just a fucking hero who don't need no compressah from day 1.

This is why the Anakin comparison doesn't work for Rey.

(I do however agree that with some careful storytelling and background lore, as well as a good character arc, Rey CAN be redeemed. It's not impossible. But I am not going to pretend that TFA Rey is good nor comparable to Anakin because she simplyisn't)

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>>94233449
She is literally exactly as competent as Tarkin.

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>>94232945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEDYvs7QWtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0nwOA_3J3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TEuS9md4U

you tell me

>>94233453
Babby show for babbys

Does it still count if I point out that it's the same Disney that gave us some of the most disturbing and nightmarish stuff of our youths?

>>94233382
Perhaps you misunderstood. In saying that there were no plans or future scripts mapped out at the time of writing TFA, the isolated nature of each of these films would imply that they're not necessarily locked into a 'pattern', as you call it.

The problems with Rey's character in TFA are very real, I know. But the example of Anakin shows that there's no reason to think nothing can be made of such a character going forward.

>>94233504
>The ST is not a tragedy. It's a hero's journey, except without the journey. Rey is just a fucking hero who don't need no compressah from day 1.
this
Saved.

>>94233505
>TFW there will never be a Limited Series comic based on his time in the order during the TCWs

>>94233546
When did Pryce headshot Krennic with the Death Star?

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>>94233591
Pryce probably would have played Krennic just as badly
Krennic was really bad at everything

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>>94233548
I don't know what you're talking about anon.

>>94233591
In the book

>>94233546
She's gotten beaten up several times by now, she keeps being alone with the captured rebels and keep getting knocked out because apparently keeping prisoners secured is very hard

>>94233217
They do now. TFA introduced Rey having visions of the past. No doubt she'll get them again and probably see the events through Kylo's eyes if they want to increase his sympathy points.

>>94233548
Not really, because its Lucasfilm that's making Rebels after all, not a Disney writer/animation team.

But Lucasfilm is also responsible for some fucked up shit. Like the Rancor, or Anakin burning alive, or a bunch of stuff in TCW, so I guess the point kinda works like that

Or just take Lucas's quote; "Star Wars is for 12 year olds." Always has been, always will. And 12 year olds can handle some violence. Rebels has the same target audience as Empire Strikes Back, whether people want to admit it or not.

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>>94233547
>in-depth analysis of a piece of feminist propag...
>Force Awakens Feminist SJW...

oboy!

>>94232778
Kylo will end up being considered the real center of the ST.

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>>94233547
Instead of staring at that, here's a pic that sums it up

>>94233198
loli Imperial officer

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>>94233630
>She's gotten beaten up several times by now,
Exactly once, and only because Sabine used environmental hazards to tase her
>because apparently keeping prisoners secured is very hard
And how many prisoners did Tarkin lose, hmm?

>>94233638
>Rebels has the same target audience as Empire Strikes Back
Questionable.
SW does have both adult and junior books after all. Hell, there was both an adult and junior novelization for TFA.

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>>94232802
This is the censored version isn't it?
>Gets completely outclassed the whole movie by Rey, then friendzoned into gay shipping
wew

>>94233655
Possibly. Its the Skywalker Saga after all, and he is the last one that we know of, besides Luke.

The ST will be on its way to redemption if it turns out that Kylo really is going to become the heroic protagonist, and Rey is being set up to be a powerful villain. It seems like the obvious way to go, which makes me fear that it's not going to happen though. Too good to be true.

Who are the worst Jedi and Sith, not counting Anakin/Vader?

>>94233638
>its Lucasfilm that's making Rebels after all, not a Disney writer/animation team.

Thank you. I can't believe how many /swco/ regulars still think Disney is 100% responsible for all Star Wars right now when they really just are the publishers/distributors and it's all Lucasfilm's doing otherwise.

>>94232945
How did anons respond to Saw Gerra?

>>94233674
>Exactly once, and only because Sabine used environmental hazards to tase her
Well she also got assaulted by that imperial officer that got tricked
>And how many prisoners did Tarkin lose, hmm?
But at least they didn't punch him out while escaping just to drive in what a joke the character is

>>94233696
>Jedi
Windu
I can't stand him
>Sith
Maul jobs all the time

>>94233703
I mean, TFA was ruined by an outside studio so not really.

>>94233696
when you say "worst" do you mean "most laughable" "most cringeworthy" or "most evil"

>>94233713
ebin goalpost move, classic shieldgate

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>>94233661
I swear to god these things are never going to stop cracking me up.
I can just imagine this dude fuming with rage and muttering to himself the whole time it takes to draw and colour these.

>>94233713
>just to drive in what a joke the character is
Hate to break it to you, but they literally blew him to pieces, anon

>>94233679
Well the books are where things get blurred, because kids have different reading levels, and shit. And they have to acknowledge that there is an adult audience that wants more mature books too. But even then, I don't think I've ever read a Star Wars book that had storytelling or shit too mature for a kid to follow.

Books withstanding though, the cartoons and movies are absolutely the same target audience. Its a family series that can be enjoyed by all ages, but the original focus was 12 year old boys.

There's nothing in the OT that is more mature than anything we see in Rebels. And Anakin burning alive withstanding, I'd wager that TCW actually has some of the most mature and violent moments in the history of Star Wars visual media. Suicides, firing squads, jesus christ, how did they get away with it.

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>there are people who think star wars having a film per year is good

>>94233799
"people"

>>94233799
Literally who has said this

>>94233703
Actually, I think most of /swco/ is pretty aware of how things work at Lucasfilm now.

It's when I leave /swco/ that things get really painful. I think some people are confused and think Lucasfilm doesn't even exist anymore, because I see so many people convinced that Disney writes and makes it all now.

It's hilarious the amount of people I see brush off Rebels as "Disney's baby rip-off that replaced TCW" while not looking long enough to know that (budget cut withstanding) it's literally a continuation of TCW by the same guy who did TCW.

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>>94233752
>imagine this dude fuming with rage and muttering to himself the whole time it takes to draw and colour these.

I can see that now

>>94233844
I like Rebels' artstyle better in some ways honestly.
TCW felt floaty.

>>94233504
And yet the Rey/chosen one theories still keep cropping up.
Though that's a slightly silly example. And likely a reaction to JJ's annoying mystery box shit meaning Rey's origin-mystery is purposefully dangled in front of you like a cat toy.

You seen very sure about the ST being a hero's journey. I hope it isn't. And I'd look to Kylo to be the one whose journey will break the OT-rehash mold. Either his possible redemption was too obviously telegraphed through bad writing, or he's going to be the element that upsets the story.
Either way, it's too early to tell, isn't it? We'll wait and see.

>>94233799
Why isn't it?

>Inb4 "the mass audiences will get bored"

Marvel has like 25 films and its been going strong for over a decade. Star Wars is a much richer pool for storytelling than marvelshit too. As long as Lucasfilm maintains the level of quality of Rogue One, we'll be good.

That being said, they're probably going to start taking longer breaks between their movies after 2020 anyways, as they've been pretty vocal about their 6-year-plan. They'll probably consider looking into tv by then instead or something.

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>>94232945
Anytime people say women/minorities are depicted as perfect and the epitome of good in TFA, remind them that the person who pulled the trigger on Starkiller Base (which instantly murdered trillions of people) was a black woman.

>>94233729
>ebin goalpost move
If that's the best you can do, but at least people like you explain why we're stuck with a mediocre saturday morning cartoon where the burger king kids club keeps treating the same five villains like chumps over and over again

You've got bumbling fool 1, 2 and 3 with Pryce, Konstantin, and Lyste

Then there's a Thrawn which keeps letting the most valuable targets in the Rebel Alliance escape again and again because apparently no one is considering that it will be easier to find the rebel base if they lose their best crew

And then there are the attack helicopter inquisitors who all got curb stomped by padawans who never finished their training and a washed up sith apprentice

>>94233909
>Why isn't it?
It loses its event feel. Same thing happened to the Marvel movies.

>>94233844
It's weird to me how it only applies to Star Wars apparently. I never see anyone blaming the Marvel movies' shortcomings on Disney, yet whenever something goes wrong on Star Wars, it's always "DISNEY DISNEY DISNEY"

>>94233909
I want Star Wars to be at a higher quality standard than Rogue One.

>>94233920
Well no one apparently cares about all the people killed so does it really matter in the end?

>>94233946
If you liked TFA better let me show you the door...

>>94233962
I never said that either, I just want Star Wars to be really fucking good, and I personally though RO was just okay.

>>94233945
I think it was the initial announcement that caused it. The "Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney" shitstorm has imprinted on the normies to think that Disney is literally making it all now.

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>>94233929
>Thrawn
SHOT THE BENDU OUT OF THE SKY
>inquisitors
Did you miss when grinky cut aresko down because of his incompetence?

But hey, thrawn is still shit because the rebels had a literal asspull on their side, right?

>>94233920
They'd only have remembered her if the planet she genocided appeared to be full of white people.
I can just imagine the salty infographics now...

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>>94233920
I prefer mitaka

>>94233920
Funny how people forget about her.

tbqh for all the "added diversity" they have pushed lately, they have been pretty fair with diversifying both sides. Could have been way, WAY worse if the Empire was still all white dudes, and the Rebellion was suddenly all women of colour.

In fact now that I think of it, all of the major canon black women have been Impirials or dubiously "good" at best. What DID they mean by this?

>>94233920
>the person who pulled the trigger on Starkiller Base (which instantly murdered trillions of people) was a black woman.

YAAS QUEEN SLAY

>>94234003
At least it was a step in a better direction compared to the Force Awakens, although that was not too hard, problem is expecting something spectacular in this day and age from an already existing franchise

You aren't going to get anything like the writing in The Sith Lords without the executives cooling their jets and their grand plan ahead for the universe, and that's not going to happen with something that prints money like Star Wars

>>94233929
How is anybody supposed to take you seriously when you pull shit out of context, stretch the truth like its laffy taffy, or straight up get things wrong in your points?

>>94234062
>like the writing in The Sith Lords
Bad writing?

>>94234009
So their accomplishments is shooting a huge alien out of the sky and killing some incompetent fellow imperials?
Honestly I think the show did a big mistake by introducing a villain like Thrawn before they were ready to kill off a member of the Ghost's crew

>>94234077
It amazes me, the mental gymnastics this guy is going through to convince himself that rebels is shit. I'm not even a fan of the cartoon, but he is so blatantly wrong on every point.

>>94234085
The Sith Lords has good writing, though.

>>94234062
>having a plan means the writers cant do good
???

Please dont give me any of that "LSG ruins creative freedom" bollocks that I have seen spouted before.

Blaming executives is silly either. Writers have the responsibility to write good themselves you know. And sometimes they're gonna make something you really like, and often they wont. Saying "oh they'll never be as good as muh good old days!" is just silly and nostalgiablind.

>>94234077
>Wah wah, out of context
You demean yourself

>>94234124
Not what I said, but hey, feel free to strawman me more. You're not getting another (You) out of me, enjoy this

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Are these any good?
I'm almost to these babies my read through of the NJO.
It's a bumpy ride so far but the good parts are really good.

Pls respond.

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>>94233920
>>94234044
Also, this Random Starkiller Base crew you see for a split second is Lady M in the Patrick Stewart Macbeth.

>>94234145
Proofs????

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>>94234174
I believe he's from Maze Runner

>>94234145
Don't bother, there are obviously some massive fags in here today considering both TFA, Rey, and Rebels is being defended with vigor right now

>>94233920
What is this character's name?

>>94234208
>Stop liking things I don't like!
I don't see anyone defending rey and TFA, but rebels deserves it. Stay salty, EUDF

>>94234208
But TFA and KOTOR both have bad writing.

>>94234190
Name one memorable line from Snoke in the Force Awakens? I trust you there's nothing as good as

>It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it.

>>94234222
Brainwashed Space Neo-Nazi #1138

>>94234249
see
>>94234235

TFA is worse though.

>>94232062
>someone actually decided to make this meme because someone thought their radical beliefs were ridiculous

>>94234232
>rebels deserves it
Go back to your hole Filoni

>>94234255
>1138
downvoted

>>94234174
>>94234199
FO has some serious acting chops. I bet if you looked deep enough into it, there;s no-one wandering around the Starkiller command deck who doesn't at least have some British theater award.

>>94234167
Well yeah.

Those spinsaber inquisitors never lost to Kanan or Ezra ones, actually defeating them often. Spinsabers are in literally 1 episode btw.

Kanan is no Padawan, and neither is Ahsoka. Maul is not "washed up" as the episode so clearly shows.

Thrawn never "let the Rebels escape", he was always in control of the situation, and was very clearly tracking the Rebel base with each appearance. Sometimes even spelling out what he learned/did. Thats not gonna stop you crying about "muh kaikuckooo" though, huh.

Konstatine and Lyste are barely in the show at all, and have jobbed like twice each at the most. You'll cherrypick them over the half-dozen other more imposing and successful villains though.

>saturday morning cartoon where the burger king kids club keeps treating the same five villains like chumps
This just tells me that you don't even watch the show, because theres been lots of villains, most of which have never been shown to fail to the villains more than once.

Gee, heroes overcoming the villains, what a shock.

Want to count how many times Vader jobs in the movies? Literally a saturday morning cartoon villain.

>>94234208
>Trying THIS hard to shitpost
Jesus fucking christ, how salty can EUfags be

>>94234208
Seems there are some even bigger fags in here today who don't like being disagreed with.

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>>94234171
did you say chaos

>>94234171
Luceno wrote it, so I assume it's dry and really good. He has a really good track record, I'd definitely give it a go.

>>94234331
>skull throne
>dude at the bottom of the cover actually looks like some Khorne daemon

How silly was the Vong plotline, honestly?

>>94234297
>anan is no Padawan, and neither is Ahsoka.
They never finished their jedi training, that makes them padawans
>he was always in control of the situation
He says so, but anyone with a brain should realize that taking out the Ghost and its crew would cripple the rebel cell, if I say everything is going exactly according to plan does not mean it's excused when I plan like an idiot
>Konstatine and Lyste are barely in the show at all, and have jobbed like twice each at the most
A bit more than that, but you're obviously not paying much attention to things

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>tfw we will never get anything star wars hugely disconnected from the films again

>>94234208
Rebels haters in my rebels thread.

And don't try to tell me you read the canon comics we really need a second /swco/ on trash for eu discussion.

>>94234376
I will never ever get /co/'s aversion to edge.

>>94234393
What makes you so sure?

>>94234405
Kylo ren is good
Vong took it too far and were ridiculously overpowered and dragged out far too long

>>94234323
You just keep defending trash then, I bet you enjoy the recent game of thrones seasons too

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>>94234422
>I bet you like this thing I don't like!
wow, fucking steller argument there, junior.

>>94234388
>They never finished their jedi training, that makes them padawans

All of them except Grand Inquisitor were ALSO PADAWANS. The Ahsoka novel makes it clear that they have gimmick weapons but must've sucked as Jedi because they rely on gimmick weapons and cheap tricks.

Not to mention the obvious fact that they're 20 years older than they would have been as Jedi and none of them look particularly old.

>>94234420
>Kylo Ren edgy
I mean it depends upon how we define edgy, but I would have difficulty labeling it anything other than the type of edgy you get from middle schoolers who listens to my chemical romance

>>94234420
My spider sense is telling me that you haven't read the NJO.

>>94234455
>Palpy only spared the Jedi special-ed class because they'd be easier to turn.
Explains 5bro's general demeanour, I suppose.

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>>94234405
Same here, I'm amazed /swco/ hasn't killed itself given how much /co/ seems to hate red and black.

>>94234439
Wasn't the comment he responded to literally "no u" tier?

This thread is like a bar in the old west. Somoene farts, everyone pulls their guns and starts shooting. We can all like different things, stop saying something is bad because you don't like it

>>94234547
Them sound like fightin words

>>94234547
Fuck that's an apt description.

>>94234562
Whud you say to me pardner'?

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>>94234455
>must've sucked as Jedi because they rely on gimmick weapons

Oh she definitely sucked some unfortunate youngling.

>>94234547

>trying to stop the equivalent of splatwars, a relatively new thing in an old fandom that was built on niches.

They took a build board out to try and shame disney into making shit in the old continuity. that isn't ever going to change.

on top of 4chan's very lulzy nature of picking the opposing side just to start a slapfight for shits and giggles.

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>No KOTOR 3 with the Exile and Revan teaming up to fight the Sith Emperor
Feels bad man

>>94234589

billboard*

>>94234547
Well put. This kind of attitude comes up so often in the general.
Thing is, I like having friendly discussions on here with people who have a different opinion/taste to me. You just never know who's going to get rubbed up the wrong way by you having a different viewpoint to theirs.

>>94234585
C U T E
U
T
E

I just bought The Force Awakens on Blu-ray.

I need to watch it again to see how much of the disdain I hold for it in my memory is actually true and how much of it was influenced by /swco/ making me believe its faults are worse than they actually are.

>>94234499

In all honesty this probably isn't too far from the truth. Sheev blasted the fuck out of Maul and Savage because Maul MIGHT have been a rival rather than a servant. He threatens and dresses down Vader over trivial shit. If he's going to have a team of designated henchmen he seems like the kind to make damn sure they could never challenge him.

>>94234767
>I just bought The Force Awakens on Blu-ray.
Why?????
Pirate it or something.

I honestly just wish TFA wasn't how they began everything, it's honestly like beginning a multiple course meal with some leftovers from last week

And those Aftermath books certainly made the sour after taste more intense, whoever thought bridging the gap between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens this soon was a smart choice obviously needs a smack, and then there's the writng
>The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight.
That isn't even subjectively bad

>>94234767
Doesn't the Blu-Ray have fuck all for the special features?

>>94234767
Watch it with friends and a few beers or something. It's a fun romp. It just suffers by comparison. If it was 'generic scifi movie no.447-B' you'd probably think it's decently fun. It just doesn't have the thematic depth as the prequels or the bottled lightning of moments of the OT. Enjoy it for what it is.

>>94234801
TFA actually has a good amount of special features (less than the main saga though), it's Rogue One which just has a single 2 hour behind the scenes/making of video though, and absolutely nothing else. No production stills, no deleted scenes, no audio commentary, no model turntables, no nothing. The main feature of Rogue One at least has some meat on its bones to balance things out, which is more than can be said for TFA.

>>94234767
i thought it was alright the first time
i hated it the second time
i thought it was slightly better than the first time the third time

>>94234819
I can't even agree with this.
JJ's Trek movies are "fun romps". TFA is just a mess.

>>94234846
Interesting Captain Indecisive

>>94234895
I'd probably rank it on par with Into Darkness, beneath the 2009 Trek film.
Plus, both are rehashes of an old fan favourite.

>>94234989
the first time i was swept up in the opening night hype so i thought i liked it

the second time was after i read about how bad it was on /tv/ and after i finished watching the clone wars

and the third time, was sam witwers commentary.

>>94235013
I liked, or at the very least tolerated, the JJ treks (and this even as a trek fan) but then I saw TFA and realized it was the EXACT SAME MOVIE as Into Darkness and then I retroactively hated everything

now the only star trek I'll watch is TOS, TAS, and movies I - VI

>>94235013
Into Darkness was better. TFA is nonfunctional.

ID was at least still JJ's style. TFA was JJ trying to ape Lucas's shooting style while being really fast paced.

>>94235066
>now the only star trek I'll watch is TOS, TAS, and movies I - VI
Gay. All of Trek is enjoyable. The TNG movies are all good.

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>Fuck the Rebellion
>A scene later: Rebellions are built on hope!

What did Rogue One mean by this?

>>94235042
>sam witwers commentary

Elaborate.

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>>94235126
It meant that she was trying to get some fags moving?

>>94235142
http://www.rebelforceradio.com/shows/2016/4/29/the-force-awakens-commentary-track-with-sam-witwer

>>94235066
Into darkness shit on one of my favourite movies so hard, I swore off any other JJ trek films. I never saw beyond, and I especially didn't, when Tekei said "don't make my character gay to fill a quota' and you know what the shitter did? Made him gay anyway. He pissed everyone off except for Nimoy, but I am convinced that man didn't have an angry bone in his body.
TFA is on par with ID for me, because it shit on something while missing the entire point of it.

>>94235126
She was lying to get people to listen to her so she could do what mads wanted her to

>>94235159
I can't listen now, but what's the general gist of it? Did he like it, or did he tear it in half just like Maul did to SS?

>>94235240
Witwer is insufferably positive, so he probably tried to look on the bright side as much as possible.

>>94235268
Also doesn't he voice several character outside the movies?

>>94235284
Yeah, Maul, Palp and Starkiller.

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>>94235066
>>94235181
I feel like Into Darkness was the prophet of doom for TFA, for me. I fucking loathed ID and as soon as I saw Poe put the map-usb-thingy into BB-8 I thought to myself 'oh, it's another one of these, isn't it?'

>Take a belover fan favourite (Wrath of Khan/ANH/Sonic the Hedgehog)
>Recolour the main character and make them super-powerful
>Change the main villain to a pale, black-haired emo Shadow the Hedgehog type
>Bring in one actor from the old days to make it legit for the nerds you despise (Old Spock/Old Han/ Old... Tails or someone)
>Bonus points if a planet blows up

Actually I don't mean to discredit Sonic recolours by the comparison. They're passionate hobbyists who do it for free, not cynical hacks who do it for millions.

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>>94231628

i dont know.i think i will not watch anything of star wars until i watched the Valerian and the City of thosands planets.

>>94235370
He also missed the point of a character dying, by resurrecting them five seconds later. Spock dying had gravity, and was genuinely sad. Losing him hurt, you felt for the crew. For jim to come back five seconds later because 'lol super blood' only for it to never come up again was fucking horrific.

>>94235375
I liked Valerian.

>>94235370
what sonic game did this

>>94235410
Did you never play shadow the hedgehog

>>94235432
i did, many times. the main villain in that was a eldritch space man.

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>>94235410
The upcoming Sonic reboot directed by JJ Abrams scheduled for 2020

>>94235394
On top of that, Spock's dying speech to Kirk had weight to it because by that point they'd had a long-established friendship. In Abrams Trek, they'd known each other for two movies and by that point had just gotten to the point of being okay with each other. Their friendship hadn't solidified at all, so Kirk having this final moment with Spock lacked any real weight and Spock having a KHAAAAAAAAAAN moment felt really empty.

>>94235459
Eh, that part I was fine with. They bonded in the first movie.

>>94235458
I want JJ to direct a Sonichu movie

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>>94235402

i wish i could say the same but the fucking american company which owns the movie theatre in our town will not show it next 2 month and all pirate shit is just first 7 minutes repeating for 2 hours . i think i will stop now to watch anything until valerian is out on videos. i just like to watch movies in their original languages..

>>94235459
Yeah spock went from 'god i hate you and your fucking emotions' to 'yeah u alright' in like, two seconds, and it really killed any investment I had in their relationship. it just makes me want to watch the original series.
But I will give it this: The casting in JJ Trek was so fucking on point. That's the only good thing I can think of out of those movies. Shame Chekov died in such a horrific way, he was a cute kid, who did some good shit

>>94235394
That's the worst excess of the JJ-reboot-method. When he just puts something in for reference and doesn't understand what made it good in the first place.
It doesn't produce impactful feelings, tears, or laughter. Just simian grunts of recognition.

>>94235490
>They bonded in the first movie.
I don't know if I'd really call that bonding. They hated each other and reached a point where they didn't quite hate each other but at no point in either movie did their relationship progress to a point of genuine friendship.

>>94235513
I wish the plot of the third one had partially beed 'oh fuck I just solved death damn it jim i'm a doctor not a necromancer' and them trying to explain how the fuck kirk survived without giving something that incredible (read exploitable) to the people who had literally tried to start a forever war
but no they took the lazy way out

>>94235530
I disagree. The ending when Nero is on the view screen and Kirk defers to Spick, and then the part where Spock gets accepted as first officer by Kirk.

>>94235539
*been

>>94235539
Yeah, I bet Admiral Marcus' cronies would have loved to get their hands on Khan's transporter, too. Pimp out an army of soldiers with auto-dispensing Khan-blood packs so they can auto-resurrect and beam them directly to Quo'nos, right outside the high council's great hall or whatever. Check and mate.
Honestly when SW fans started moaning about JJ after TFA I, as a trekkie, just thought 'now you know my pain'. What a godawful wreck of a film.

>>94235066
>I saw TFA and realized it was the EXACT SAME MOVIE as Into Darkness

I've never seen Into Darkness. Please explain.

>>94235553
You really call that friendship?

>>94235553
Yeah, that's them kind of respecting each other and not hating each other. That's far from the kind of friendship original Kirk and Spock had by the time Spock died.

>>94235601
The same plot as beloved Star Trek classic 'The Wrath of Khan'. Old Spock is there to 'pass the baton' to the new, super-charged version of the crew, and the same story beats are met like items on a checklist, without any understanding of what made them impactful in the first place.
Ringing any bells?

>>94235598
It just doesn't make sense. How did they explain Kirk resurrecting? Why didn't anyone try to do an investigation into the people who's ship nearly destroyed an entire city on earth? Why is it that Khans transporter is literally NEVER MENTIONED AS BEING THE MOST INCREDIBLE PIECE OF TECH EVER? this is the same series that established Scotty as having to invent teleporting a moving person as a plot point. It honestly felt like a punch to the face as I liked trek. I see why my normie friends liked it so much, because it was the most boring, watered down star trek story you can imagine
wheres my wacky hijinks in prohibition era america with the crew film?

>>94235606
>>94235630
Just saying guys, they progressed enough that I felt the ending if ID worked.
Kirk and Spock came a long way in the first movie.
I think they came to much more of an understanding than you guys seem to think.

>>94235601
Dude, into darkness is a near shot for shot remake of the wrath of khan, with the twist at the end flipped because 'muh suspense'

>>94234596
I don't see why they can't make KOTOR3 and just slap the Legends label on it like they do for old EU novels.

Then again i'd only want 3 if Chris wrote it.

>>94235663
Understanding is way different than being close friends. There was an entire series to establish how Spock and Kirk had overcome their differences, and how Spock had gone from a robot to a person who had accepted he has human emotions, whereas movie spock was the same through every film except for his 'KHAAAAAAANNNNN'

>>94235663
>I think they came to much more of an understanding than you guys seem to think.
I think the point is that "okay we're cool with each other" still isn't a strong enough point to really justify the dual-WoKing of Kirk's "death" scene and Spock's outraged reaction.

>>94235703
Movie Spock was more emotional than OG Spock from the get go though.

>>94235714
He was angry, I'll give you that. Vulcans are angry, they literally have a ceremony based around hatefucking every seven years.
Spock in the original series had come to terms with his humanity, and kirk had taught him to embrace it, because he was an individual. There's a huge difference.

>>94235662
The wacky hijinks, rampant holograms, and time travel plots really make trek for me.
Discovery won't feel like 'real' star trek for me unless they go to a stupid cowboy planet where everyone is a cowboy and they all have to dress up as cowboys and talk in old-west slang to fit in. That's just non-negotiable for me.

>>94235760
>Discovery won't feel like 'real' star trek for me unless they go to a stupid cowboy planet where everyone is a cowboy and they all have to dress up as cowboys and talk in old-west slang to fit in.
Holy fucking shit, I'd sell my dick for this. Please tell me they discover old guns and talk about how inefficient metal bullets are

>>94235738
My dudr, I'm not saying ID didn't lamely ape TWOK, I'm just saying that to me Kirk and Spock were rather close.
Like in the part of the first movie when they go to Nero's ship and there's that svene where Kirk is shooting and a guy comes up behind Kirk and Kirk doesn't watch his back because he trusts Spock that much.

>>94235760
>COMMMMPUTER
My dad still quotes this whenever he opens his laptop

>>94235793
Obligatory awkward alien is all
>What does it mean, "cat-house?"
>Are felines particularly revered in this culture?
Somehow I suspect those days of silly fun are over though.

>>94235837
>I HAVE NO DICK AND I MUST FAP

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Did TCW retain the themes of the PT, like the order being flawed?

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>>94235837
We /stco/ now
just don't rat us out to ISB

>>94235870
Go watch it, it retroactively makes the prequels better

>>94235828
Silly fun has it's place, but /co/ gets so dogged about it.
The Dominion War is 10/10 stuff too.

>>94235828
>Everyone looks at the Vulcan because of his ears
>how do you think they'd feel about him?
fuck, my sides are in orbit

>>94235887
No?
The PT is much better than TCW.
TCW is fine though.

>>94235870
>like the order being flawed?
Entire arcs were built on it.

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>>94232046
Everything you need is right here.

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>>94235857

>>94231853
>rand

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>>94235899
>Dominion War is 10/10
My man!

>>94235941
Like?

>>94235942
Why the fuck do people keep acting like this was credible? Everything he said was based on spoilers and photos that we already had at the time.

>>94236006
This. The image itself provides the argument to disprove itself, since the ANAKIN FORCE SLOTH thing referencing Porgs (which were reported far earlier) isn't proven by the existence of the Porgs.

>>94236005
The Ahsoka on trial arc, for one. The entire arc is basically about the Jedi not doing the right thing because they're too busy sucking the senate's dick.

>>94236006
>>94236028
I like it because its so fucking stupid, its the worst idea ever, and I love it.
In the 1 in 1,000,00 chance its real I want people to remember that it did leak here and we knew about it way before.

>>94236149
Eh, in all it wasn't the most ridiculous plot idea I've ever seen. Anakin's Force Ghost being a sloth at first was the only really odd part.

>>94236149
My feelings exactly, anon.
Honestly it's like the bar has been set so low and we're all girding ourselves for a tepid ESB remake that something new, no matter how wacky, would be welcome.

>>94236195
Anakin force sloth>TFA

>>94236241
Sure. I'll take it.
I just don't want to see the same movie again and again.

>>94233198
stackpole wtf

stop giving me boners

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Your Star Wars confessions, now.

I like Rey.

>>94236437
I have to agree, she's at least charismatic.

My confession is that I think TCW and Rebels have ugly art styles.
Also I hate a good chunk of it, a lot of it is Ewok tier bad. For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nevWCrGnlMM

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>>94234376
ORGANIC EXPLOSIONS

>>94236437
Kylo Ren is the only character from the ST that I care about. That includes the OT characters they brought back.

>>94236437
Jar Jar isn't child rapingly bad
I like rey too
And Poe, and Hux, and Ren
I kind of liked TFA, save the ending
ANH is my favourite film followed by RO
I get drunk with friends and watch AoTC sometimes and we make fun of it
I'm going to hell

>>94236437
I've always thought Ahsoka was, at best, generic spunky grrl sidekick, and at worst painfully deviantart oc-tier.
I have decent hopes for TLJ, and Han Solo now that whatshisdick has taken over (less so than TLJ)
I think Pile-O Men has the potential to be the best character of the ST, not that he has much competition
I didn't like the ending of the last season of Rebels very much, or the last Maul episode until the very end.
I want to fuck a Rodian.

>>94236437
Rebels is better than TCW by leaps and bounds

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>>94235126
power of friendship bitches

>>94236537
Why is AotC more maje funof worthy than TFA?

>>94236596
>Drunk tfa viewing
Let's just watch ANH and have a fun time, or we're bored
>Drunk AotC viewing
it's an ironic kind of good, and more fun to sit through

>>94236631
I think AotC is unironically good.
When Anakin is racing to save his mom and the twin suns are behind him
>but you can't stop the change, any more than you can stop the suns from setting.

>>94236668
I like it, but there is some cringe-worthy dialogue and some scenes that just don't work. We're not shouting 'SHIT CGI AND MIDICHLORIANS REEEE' for two hours, we're people who like the prequels and are having a good time

>>94236690
>but there is some cringe-worthy dialogue and some scenes that just don't work.
this describes every single Star Wars movie to date

>>94236690
>and some scenes that just don't work.
Like?

>>94236748
Look, I'm not getting into a shitflinging fight over what I do with my friends for fun.

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>>94236437
I largely hate the prequels, but fuckin looooove TCW. I like Rebels, but recognize that it doesn't quite reach the highs of TCW.
Related to that, I love TCW Anakin and despise movie-Anakin. To me, they are practically two separate people.
I have a weird love of the radio broadcasts, mostly because my mother was the art director for the NPR ad campaign. Evidently, I head certain soundtrack clips from ESB about a thousand times in utero when my mom was cutting together clips to use. She still has the roughs and comp of pic related somewhere in their house.
I want Rey to be connected to Sheev.

>>94236785
>I love TCW Anakin and despise movie-Anakin.
I'm the exact opposite. TCW Anakin strikes me as the OTbabbies headcanon Anakin from before the PT.

>>94236762
Oh yes you are.

>>94236762
Don't worry about it. Some people here seem really oversensitive to any possible criticism towards the prequel for some reason.

>>94236865
Why would you post this?
This is going to derail the thread.

>>94236437
I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.

>>94236865
I will defend parts of the prequels, but they have to be falseflaggers, because it's ridiculous they can't admit the prequels have flaws, and strengths.

>>94236865
>for some reason.
It couldn't possibly be the hate circlejerk bandwagon that has existed for over a decade......

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>>94236754
>"I don't like sand"

>"You too have grown m'lady, more beautiful" *creepy smile*

>"I slaughtered them like Animals! I literally committed a massacre! Feel Sorry for ME!"

They are laughably bad

>>94236890
Never got the issue with this line. Nor does Hayden if his appearance at celebration with Andi was anything to go by.

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>>94236910
>Chupacabra chimichanga, Solo?
>I am not a committee!
>What I told you is true, from a certain point of view.

>>94236538
>Rodians

According to Heir to the Jedi, they stink. Literally.

>>94236906
So because they've had unfair complaints lodged about them, you believe the correct thing to do is now do an equal and opposite reaction?

>>94236921
Imagine you were with your crush, you want to start small talk with her. What do you choose to start a conversation?
It was an autistic moment.

>>94236891
It's pretty clear that the "PREQUELS ARE 100% PERFECT ALSO THE OT IS BAD" posters are falseflagging for the sake of feeding the "w-wow /co/mblr is really this deluded!" narrative.

Blame TFA for people been more willing to admit they like the PT. The hardcore fans wanted something new and TFA was definitely not that.

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>>94236890

>>94236985
>So because they've had unfair complaints lodged about them, you believe the correct thing to do is now do an equal and opposite reaction?
Yes. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

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>>94236910
>"I don't like sand"
Never got why this was bad.
>>"You too have grown m'lady, more beautiful" *creepy smile*
Again here. He's awkward around someone he has had a crush on but hasn't seen in a long time.
>>"I slaughtered them like Animals! I literally committed a massacre! Feel Sorry for ME!
I did feel sorry for him though.
How is that not legitimate, and what causes you to take issue with it?

>>94237001
It was like that by design though. Anakin doesn't know what he's doing.

>>94236437
I don't like Ahsoka, nor any Twi'lek, Togruta, or others like them.

>>94237052
>I don't like Ahsoka
Well everyone is entitled to their opinion, I like her but I can see why-
>nor any Twi'lek, Togruta, or others like them.
Get out.

>>94236970
Even better.

>>94237030
You're kinda not right in the head, friend. Or you're just shitposting, I guess.

>>94236910
>They are laughably bad
Do you also laugh at Hamill's terrible
>NOOOOOOAAWWWOAGHHHH
?

>>94237100
I'm not right in the head because I defend the prequels against bandwagoners, OT Elitists, and parroting faggots?

>>94237088
>Get out.
I'm gonna stay here and pollute this general with my unorthodox views no matter what!

>>94236437
I wish Ahsoka definitively died at the hands of Vader. It would have been a perfect end to her arc. Keeping her alive cheapens everything.

>>94236833
Seeing as I'm a literal OT babby, I can understand that. At least you also see them as two completely separate characters, unlike some of the more delusional folks here who insist that AOTC-TCW-ROTS is utterly seamless as far as Anakin's character.

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>>94237157

>>94236833
TCW Anakin is just an extension of start-of-ROTS Anakin

>>94237194
Is this guy a Sith?

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>>94236537
>friends

>>94236437
-I have trouble finding SW waifus
-I'm interested in Kylo Ren
-I have a major hype for Galaxy's Edge, but feel I can't discuss it without being accused of mouse shilling
-In spite of his faults, I'm a big Boba Fett fan. Even going as far as having a photo-op with one during a trip to Disneyland, seeing as he is a rare sight over there.
-As part of my martial arts training, I've been working on incorporating a Makashi flourish into my technique.

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>>94236910
>laughably bad
This phrase in relation to the PT always triggers me.
It consumes me because I can't even get in a headspace where those lines are laughably bad, but I don't want to assume that you're lying. I'm just left to wonder how completely alien you are me.

>>94237013
No they didn't. They just wanted Luke to be the big hero again.

>>94237218
Yes.
the eyes are an edit

>>94237145
Nah, because you admitted you're oversensitive to any possible criticism only because other people were unfair to the movies before.

>>94236437
When Attack of the Clones came out, I thought it was one of the best movies I had ever seen (I was 13 at the time).

>>94237270
No, I admit there are legitimate criticisms. But it's pointless to discuss them because they've been discussed to death before and many apply to the OT too.

And 98% of the faggots you run into on 4chan are not the "I have a few legitimate criticisms" fags. They're the "PLINKETT SAID THE PT IS BAD" or "I HATE JAR JAR AND CGI SO THE PT IS BAD" type of fags.

1% are the legitimate criticisms fags

another 1% are the rest of the fags, people like Star Wars dad who wanted to edit down all of the films to remove anything remotely scary or harmful