Civil War

>>94212715
Everyone was a dick. Everyone.

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I think they both had good points, especially in the wake of the Stamford disaster. Letting a buch of young, untrained, hot-headed supers run around unsupervised is a recipe for disaster to the point that it's actually a little surprising that the Marvel Universe doesn't suffer incidents like Stamford once a week instead of once every few years. There needs to be accountability.

On the other hand, if you're willing to accept that costumed vigilantism is an acceptable response to the rise of supercrime, you also have to accept that those costumed vigilantes have to be allowed to maintain their anonymity for the sake of their own safety. It can't fall to the government to protect them from reprisals- even if they had the resources, the government doesn't have the expertise to effectively do that, or they wouldn't need costumed vigilantes at all.

Tony and Steve needed to sit down and work this out, reach some kind of compromise. It could have genuinely changed the way the Marvel Universe worked, opening up narrative possibilities that weren't possible before. But that wouldn't have sold as many comics as a fistfight, I guess.

Tony was right but they made him cartoony evil to justify the status quo

None of them were in the right because the methods they chose to reach their ends were so extreme. I'm on team Thing. gtfo to France and wait out the stupid.

In universe, Cap is objectively right. The government in superhero movies is invariably populated by paranoid idiots and crazy people, and giving them any sort of power is a mistake. Trying to hold the heroes back while aliens tear through some major city is going to cost far more lives than it will ever save.

>>94212715
Iron Man was right that Superheroes need some accountability/oversight but was dead wrong in how he went about enforcing it. Having Parker unmask, actively hunting other heroes, making slaves of supervillains, attempting to assassinate an Atlantian ambassador and cloning a murderous Thor was not productive. The only difference between him and Osborne's regime was that Stark delegated his dirty work while Osborn was more hands on.

Cap was right that the governments in Marvel cannot be trusted but was wrong in trying to fight an underground battle. He should have gone public with his opposition, revealed Maria HIll for the shitty law breaking bitch she is after she tried to arrest/kill him for no damned reason and force a middle ground where Fuhrer Stark never had a chance to obtain supreme power. RYV had the right idea where the heroes don't fight each other and just set up an infrastructure to police themselves better.

>>94212715
Cap was right because it's the Marvel Universe. In the real world, Tony would probably be right, but the US Government has attempted to commit genocide on it's own population with giant fucking robots in the Marvel universe before. They really can't be trusted.

>>94212715
Both were wrong because they went to blows within about 10 seconds instead of talking the problem over like adults.

It's a shame because the idea of a superhero universe discussing complex ideas like accountability of power and the distance that one individual should be able to go in protecting society is an interesting one that could have been handled in a very mature way, but of course, it wasn't gonna be that. It was just a chance to pander to immature readers who wanted to see power level arguments played out on the page.

>>94212715
Iron Man in all comic, sequel comic, and film

>>94212715
They were both right, but none of them was correct !