PUNISHER WAR MACHINE JOURNAL: who here hyped?

>>94209639
>giving a vigilante a walking tank
why? even criminal lives matter

>>94209639
>War Machine
>Not an Antihero

I thought all those guns, missiles and lethal weapons were for something but I guess this lady thinks they were there just for show

Agreed, men hater #1

>>94209639
They gave the Iron Man name to a black girl, why do they care about Iron Man's shitty sidekick after that?

Is like caring about Robin after winning Batman

>>94209713
He was already FRANKenstein, getting War Machine's armor is nothing compare to that.

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The time will come...sooner than expected.

Actually this one has a bit of a point. You people get mad at Black chick as Iron Man, so get mad at this too. Or at least admit that giving Frank War Machine armor is fucking retarded after the retardation of him being Hydra. OOC as fuck BTW if anyone gives a shit.

Looking to see the hypocrisy in this thread after all the bitching before though

>>94209780
He was also an angel. And a black man.

>>94209834
Could you point out when I was angry about black gurl iron man?

I thought this was about the MCU.
Who cares about Marvel comics.

>>94209834
Frank steals hero's tech all the time. And I doubt he'll actually be calling himself War Machine. Simple as that

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>>94209713

No they don't.

>>94209639
wait... rhodey died?

>>94209639
Man hater. Stupid cunt.

>not allowed to say anything about any number of white heroes who suddenly are someone of a difference race
>it's a hate crime to do the reverse
Where was this over black Human Torch in the Fantastic Four movie? Or how everyone who didn't like fem-Thor was a misogynist? Or anything related to the 2016 Ghostbusters?

>>94209834
Oh it's retarded, but frankly I don't care. I don't care about Tony or Riri either. I want to see hypocrits get mad that War Machine changes for a short time.


Maybe Marvel will stop being retarded eventually but right now they're actively trying to set fire to everything so I'm going to enjoy myself.

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I don't really think Frank would want it.

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>>94209639

> one of the few black heroes

that you know from the movies and casually glancing the covers at comic book stores.

also:

>it's not okay to kill or endanger black fictional characters because then white people who care about that character might be sad/emotionally invested

>>94209960
Yeah, in civil war 2. It isn't civil war until a black guy bites the dust.
Fuck bendis.

>>94210037
are you this one faggot using screenshots of Punisher MAX (a different continuity) to try and prove a point about 616 Frank?

Stop doing that

>>94209834
Frank is a decades-established fan favorite character. Riri is a carbon copy of an already-existing character created so BENDIS! could pick up residuals from any adaptions she features in. Except for a few idiots Riri's race has nothing to do with why people hate her.

>>94209834
They're not the same at all. One is a merger of two different, mid-level properties (Punisher and War Machine) and the other was an OC Donut Steel diversity stunt.
>>94210144
yeah, what I said, but with dubs.

>>94209834
>you guys complained about a black person filling a white person's shoes, so ur a hypocrite if you don't complain about the exact opposite
We stopped giving a single fuck when that "Black Gurl Irn man" was literally LOOKING to be oppressed.

we gave up on Marvel nigga, giving them money is only going to support their decisions in their eyes

>>94210090
>Stop using examples of a character written well to shit on the same character written terribly!

>>94210178
>ignores he fact that they are technically not the same character
Found the troll

>>94209639
>few black heroes
>Marvel
hahahahaha niggers

>>94210178
no you retarded fuck, holy shit, this is like me using examples of Ultimate Captain America to say that 616 Captain America has always been a xenophobic and that he wouldn't ally himself with the French or using screenshots of Age of Apocalypse Sabretooth to show that 616 Sabretooth was just a good boy that dindu nuffin and would eventually get around his murderous/cannibalistic tendencies.

They're not the same character, it's not the same universe or even the same setting. FUCK OFF.

>>94210090
For some reason, I got it in my head that this was talking about the MCU. Even more stupid when you think about it, but there you go.
Only other MAX thing I've posted was being pushed out of the helicopter yesterday.

>>94209834
Pretty sure if Lila Rhodes was the replacement for War Machine after he died and she was written by a competent writer a lot of /co/mrades would've had an easier time with that happening.

Instead we get Bendis shoving his OC on Iron man with shit sales so bad that he's bringing Tony back already.

To be fair, the idea of Punisher getting war machine armour and fighting crime was an idea that Dwayne McDuffy had back in the 80s. Frank was going to steal an iron man suit and attack criminals and Tony was going to fight him and take it back. The story was then going to lead to Rhodey getting the suit back and having to deal with the mess that Frank caused.

Maybe a friend of Rhodey will be involved and when this arc ends we get a new AM. What's his niece been doing lately?

>>94210240
>Ultimate Captain America to say that 616 Captain America has always been a xenophobic and that he wouldn't ally himself with the French or

That example would fucking fail for a lot of reason, but mainly it would show you don't know shit about Ultimates outside of the "Muh A doesn't stand for france" meme

>>94210319
>Millar writes him as a xenophobic fuck
>some other guy tries to retcon this and give respect to the french
>Millar doubles down on making fun of the french when Cap gets captured by them and beats them up

Yeah, nah, his characterization was mostly xenophobic jerk

>>94209639
LOL, complaining about Tony Stark being replaced by an african american girl with 0 history is being racist, but complaining about a white guy taking over a traditionally african american character's role is perfectly fine.

They are both BS moves and Marvel needs to go home because it is drunk, but the hypocrisy is just funny.

>>94209772
>They gave the Iron Man name to a black girl
No they didn't. They gave the Iron Man name to a Latverian man.

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>>94209905
Needs more dakka, boss.

Honestly, who gives a fuck about Rhodey?
Anyone?

>>94209639
As much as i hate a bitch named man hater 1, shes got a point

>>94210039
She's referring to the fact that Rhodey was killed off literally so Tony and Carol could cry over him to justify CWII.

>>94210455
That's clearly the same gun repeatedly copypasta'd, but I legitimately can't tell if it's an edit or just Marvel laziness.

>>94210477
She's right but that doesn't stop her from being an obnoxious cunt who can't spend 5 minutes without posting shitty Tumblr gifs.
Anyone who cries about dead heroes in current year needs to eat a bullet and choke on it. Status Quo is God.

>>94209834
Do SJWs hate on vigilantism like Frank?

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>>94210503
>but I legitimately can't tell if it's an edit

>>94210455
>Metal Slug.jpg

>>94210545
Well, Marvel isn't known for having quality in any of their departments. If anything, they are similar to McDonalds, like when you find a nail in your hamburger.

>>94210574
Anon, come on, there's no way you couldn't tell that's an edit unless you're just dumb.

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>>94210467
I do but it doesn't matter since Marvel doesn't Also I am curios as to what would require Frank to even use the armor let alone who gave it to him.

>>94210574
>doesn't know if the penis machine gun is an edit
You know any phallic imagery is horribly offensive and triggering to Marvel's readers.

>>94210574
the edit even quoted the original

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>>94210503
Thats obviously an edit
heres some actual Marvel laziness. Their artists are so shit they have to rip off halo designs for their star wars comics

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>>94209639
War Frank? We're getting War Frank?!

>>94210627
Not that anon, anon. I just like to shit on Marvel.

>>94210669
Post the Lego ship.

>>94210437
Why is Riri the star of the Iron Man comicbook after "Stark died", then?

>>94210642
Oh yeah. I tend to forget that the readership of Marvel is similar to Steven Universe watchers.

>>94209639
They were both Marines, makes sense.

>>94210733

I'm sure Rhodey would give Frank his blessing (or begrudgingly agree) to have him use the War Machine if it meant doing the right thing.

>>94210455
I admit it, I laughed at the crotch cannon.

>>94210533
SJWs hate Frank because Joss Whedon told them he's "fascist" and points to the one comic he wrote as proof.

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>>94210669
how do they even get away with this.

>>94210484
Also bendis thought he'd die in the movie

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>>94210942
Frank really crusts his lip doesn't he?

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>>94210455 What are we ? ULTRAMARINES ???

MORE DAKKA

>>94211040
WAAAAAAAGH! DX

>>94209639
>frank war machine
wait this sounds pretty interesting for once marvel

>>94210455

I can't see Frank using a gatling cock but whatever

>>94211280
The whole idea of Frank in some sort of armored power-suit is stupid.

>>94209794
GIGACANNON

>>94209834
>We hate Riri because she's black
Oh cry harder. Maybe I do hate her cause she's black, but most probably it's because she's a SHIT character

>>94209639
why do I feel like all these new Iron characters are leading to Armor Wars 2 in a year

>>94209639
I know this is clearly a bait thread but this shit is retarded

>>94209639
i feel this is either gonna be really cool or really stupid.

maybe both.

>>94209905
>>94210455
>>94211040
I love 4chan.

>>94209896
>Frank steals hero's tech all the time.
Yep
>And I doubt he'll actually be calling himself War Machine. Simple as that
Also correct, he's still The Punisher. It's slapped over War Machine the same way War Machine was slapped over Iron Man in the '90s when Stark was "dead"

>>94209639
Why do we care about some faggots tweets?

>>94209639
I prefer villians/anti heroes taking over the mantle over legacy characters who are introduced right out of the blue. I hope this comic turns out to be good.

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>>94209639
Wait, in the mcu or in the comics?

>>94209905
Even in death i still FRANK.

>>94209896
Wasn't there a story where he had cap's shield, ant-man's suit and green goblin's flying board?

Not to mention other wacky tech he had in other stories like the man-made venom suit or this.

>>94211463
Writing her to be upset she wasn't being oppressed

If I didn't know better, I'd think Bendis was taking the shit out of crybullies. Fortunately I have more faith in Bendis being a terrible writer

>>94211550
Marvel loves a good ol' rehash.

>>94209639
Isn't Frank Sicilian?

>my boy Frank getting more weapons to eradicate criminal scum

Even if it's incredibly dumb, it's gonna be fantastic.

By the way, I thought Doom was basically Iron Man now? Who's this chick everyone's on about?

>>94209834
After Ennis Punisher has been on a steady track towards shit.

Rucka worshiped the Marine corp too much. L.A Frank was decent but spiraled out. Then there's the stuff where they put him with capes.

This is just another shit pit stop.

>>94210689
No, he's Frank Machine
They should actually call him War Castle

>Making Punisher War Machine
>Not making him the Iron Punisher

great, now franks just going to be associated with this racial political bullshit when they could have done something much cooler.

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>>94209639
>>94209639
Has the Franking gone too ffat?

>>94211876
He had an entire story arc where him and his grandpa killed goons in the old country. And that was pre Punisher Max. This was during his defining character era.

He's always been olive skinned and dark haired. People just label him white because he's a murderous psycho.

>>94212171
>pre Punisher Max
>defining character era
hm

>>94209639
>White tears
Fucking tears can be racial???

>>94211876
>Frank Castle
>Castle
not very italian, is not a francesco castello

>>94212238
he changed his name from Castiglione

>>94212238
His name before he entered the Marine Corp was Castliglione.

I think he changed it to do another tour or to hide from Mafia associations.

>>94209639

>this psychopath murders everyone he sets his eyes on
>even people who are in jail being rehabilitated
>just with the guns at his disposal he's murdered enough people to qualify as a war crime
>let's give him an iron man suit loaded with enough firepower to conquer a small country! what can possibly go wrong?

I was never that big a fan of Frank, but holy shit even from an in-universe standpoint this is hands down the single most retarded thing anyone has ever done.

>>94212297
And his first name was fucking Francis.

>>94209639
>men hater #1
imagine your whole existence revolving around hating 50% of the world.

>>94209834
As this guy said ->>94209877
It's all retarded. Some of us see how retarded all of this is.

And yes, it's retarded to whitewash or blackwash characters. Make new ones.

>>94212209
I fucking love MAX but people don't give the Dixon era enough credit.

>>94209639
Why are people bothered with Rhodey's death?

He's a comic book character. Unless your name is Thomas Wayne, Martha Wayne or Ben Parker, chances are you'll be resurrected, cloned, downloaded into a computer and create a human body for yourself, or have it so that the you who died was a fake and you were stuck in some incubator that fed you all the knowledge the imposter was receiving so it's like you never even left.

Nobody ever stays dead in comic books.

>>94212315
what about a Frank willingly joining a known supercriminal organization?

>>94211339
My nigga

>>94212415

That, too.

>>94209639
Why the fuck does Marvel struggle to write Frank Castle well?

>>94212209
Man come on, Ennis' Punisher is probably the best but Dixon and Barron defined the character. Ennis uses their template.

>>94212508
>Why the fuck does Marvel struggle to write well?

>>94212508
They've been going out of their way to write everyone badly for a while, anon.

>>94212508
Frank, at the end of the day, is a very shallow character. On top of that, you can't create believable long-lasting antagonists for him. Ennis's runs in MAX and Marvel Knights succeeded because he wasn't afraid of writing compelling but one-and-done antagonists for Frank to murder.

>The Platoon comes out in October.
How the fuck is Ennis going to make us feel horrible this time?

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>>94209639
>feminist that hates men
>MUH BLACK LIVES-ist
>lesbian
>bitching about stupid shit

How can someone be such a stereotypical tumblrite

>>94209834
Not the same at all. We weren't mad about the event of black iron man, we were mad about the reason the event came to be, kinda like how people say how shouldn't look at the words being said but instead look at the intentions behind those words and the intentions behind black female Iron Man was obviously to push an agenda just from looking at the presentation and the time period that it happened in.

>several people point out that they don't like this for the same reason as the other changes
>no response from OP
It's official, OP is a fag.

>>94211971
I like both of those.

>>94210713
Her name is "Ironheart" not "Iron Man." She's the star of the comic because "Invincible Iron Man" would sell higher than "Invincible Ironheart" because of the name recognition.

>>94211040
>They call me stompy!

>>94212989
Kinda sad how they're trying to trick people into buying her books like that.

>>94212341
It's probably more than 50%, what with all those cultures that have a habit of aborting females because they need a male heir.

>>94211876
>Sicilian
Wait, does that not count as "white" anymore?

>>94212341
49%, actually.

>>94213420
>Wait, does that not count as "white" anymore?
It never has
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM

>>94213351
Total world pop is a little less than 50%, yeah, but not by much. Seems to have decreased by almost half a percent in the past 50 years, apparently.

Looking this up, I found out that on 33% of the population in Omar is female, and 27% in the UAE. How the fuck did that happen?
I actually don't want to know the answer to that.

>>94213420
What do you know of Sicilian history?

>>94209639
>SJWs BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>94209639
Is this the first case of a person of colored getting their hero name taken up by a white guy?

>>94213750
That you should never go up against them when DEATH is on the line.

>>94209639
>frank castle
are we going to get another punisher film?

>>94214452
Netflix series

>>94214452
If they dare to fit in a cameo of his best selling crime novelist cousin, Richard, I might just bust a gut laughing.

>>94214532
please no

I hope these people die of a ruptured stomach ulcer or something.
Its getting so you cant tell a damned story anymore.
Frank stealing War Machine armor makes perfect sense and is obviously not going to be a permanent thing.

>>94214481
In November

>>94213526
>>94213750
Yet Hispanic does. This is a confusing world we live in

>>94214557
They wouldn't. He already knows Spider-Man's secret identity.

>>94214591
Hispanic just means from a Spanish-speaking country, so Spaniards are white Hispanics

>>94214591
Only legally and that's only when the law is lazy.

Frank Castle is as white as a fucking mestizo.

Also I don't get the hate for him. If some gay dude ran up to Frank Castle crying about queer bashers those bashers would get bashed.

>>94210533
I'm going to explain how SJW's think. In order to do that, i'm going to have to say some disgusting things. Please, I want you to understand, these are not my views, and it hurts me. But here we go.

To a SJW, Frank Castle epitomizes the patriarchal power fantasy of the right. A White male wronged by the criminal activity of society, criminal activity he very likely caused due to the deleterious effect of the American economical caste system on society. He is a reactionary emblem of middle aged white men frightened by losing control of the civilization they have dominated through economics and coercion for centuries. In response to this threat, he resorts to blatant and heartless violence against the poor and mentally ill as part of a self righteous quest to cleanse undesirables from the world. He narcissistically metes out execution without trial, making himself judge jury and executioner. And while the greater universe supposedly demonizes him for his actions, they also secretly lionize him for the expedience with which he carries them out. The White Male author is sympathetic to Frank Castle and his war of violence and discrimination, and elegize him like Christian Monks did the pagan barbarians of cultural epics of the past (ex. Beowulf). All because he was robbed of his "property", his "family" we never meet which only exists to form some sort of nebulous sense of being wronged, but is really only a pretext to exact his sexual and social frustrations on the less fortunate.

Ok. I'm done. Time to go rinse off.

>>94210270
One of the biggest and most justifiable claims for why Riri a shit I've seen on /co/ is the fact that Lila Rhodes exists and was shoved aside for yet another one of Bendis' pet OCs.

>>94209987
there was a lot of complaints with MBJ playing the Human Torch

>>94209639
Why does man hater #1 care about what happens to a man?

>>94214892
Because non-whites get to have a sense of racial pride without getting portrayed as monsters

>>94209987
There was bitching over the human torch but it died down when the movie looked to be absolute shit

Their reasoning for why it's ok for them to complain and not you is because there are "not enough blacks" in comics. As for how much is "enough" you'll never get a straight answer

>>94214837
Which was largely because from quick glance:

*Johnny is Black, Sue is white. So people are confused why Sue's white family adopted a black child.

(Made even more confusing that it's really Johnny's family adopted Sue after Sue's parents died in an accident, yes I sadly saw the movie)

Now if you saw the movie, Black Johnny was nothing like comic Johnny (not even the Ultimates team from which the story was drawing some elements from.) That pissed off people and then MBJ's whole attitude about the thing telling people off just continued to magnify the problem. A similar problem GB2016 would have as the cast/director/liberal bloggers fanned the flames the same way as if that was going to draw in business.

The kicker? MBJ said people would complain and see it anyway. That didn't happen and MBJ looked like a dumb ass for it given all the stoking of anger he did leading up to the movie's release.

>>94209834
Punisher is a terrorist though. He simply has "crime" as what he fights instead of "infidels who are not Hydra"

Question. Whoever's making this comic, do they respect either millitary, or at least /k/ culture?

>>94215758
>do they respect either millitary, or at least /k/ culture?

The only writer you'll see at Marvel that does is Garth Ennis when his Punisher in Vietnam comic comes out

>>94214653
Damn dude, fucking nailed the SJW perspective on that.

>>94212171
Since when are Italians, Sicilians, Greeks and whatnot NOT considered white? They're caucasian ie white. You do know skin tones vary, right? That's some /pol/-tier "yer not whitah" logic.

>>94214653
Revenge against those that have wronged you seems it would connect. Can't they just use one of the female Punishers and have it work about the same?

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>>94215915
Less than a hundered years ago, when white was restricted to WASPs. Pic related.

>>94216062
Man, all these people types are confusing.

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>>94214609
>Spaniards are white Hispanics
HAHAHAHA, nice try, Moor.

>>94216062
Oh yeah, now I remember. The British-Born Americans looked down on Italian, Greek, & Irish Americans. Frank Sinatra's dad was a boxer who had to change his name to get in fights because nobody would bet on an Italian, right?

>>94209639
I can't believe they found something stupider than making him an angel. Just make him a frankenstein again. That was fun.

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>>94214653
You can have some of my bleach. It's on the house.