What are your thoughts on Mabel?

>>94176442
Thread's off to a good start

>>94176391
She's quite possibly the most realistically written female character I've ever seen.

She's an adorable bundle of joy

>>94176391
Is there literally anyone who actually likes her? All I see online is hate.

Her extroverted dorkiness is cute but Hirsch fucked up big time by getting lazy and copy-pasting Dipper busting his balls for her in way too many episodes. Once is just Dipper realizing the value of his bond with his sister. Four or five times out of just the first season creates a pattern and makes her look like a selfish mooch.

>>94177457
Have you left 4chan recently?

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>>94176391
>Pay attention Mabel, this is super important.
>Bla bla bla, you're BORING, Dipper
>But Mabel, this could destroy the world! Please pay attention
>Wakka wakka whatever, come on and let me force you to do things I want to do

>Hey Mabel, give me that glowing thing that is of no importance
>I kinda remember Dipper saying something about this....
>No he didn't. Dipper's dumb.Now give me the MacGuffin and I'll give you what you whatever you want
>I want the entire universe to revolve around me and not just Dipper's life
>You got it. Now off to destroy the world
>Whatever, I got what I wanted

>Wow we just managed to undo Mabel's mistake
>What mistake? Haha wee waaa *fart noises* Now do what I say
>That's our Mabel!

>>94177621
Well, we know Mabel isn't the biggest bitch in THIS thread.

>>94177605
I said online, not just 4chan. Learn to read, anon.

>>94177621
>Hey, look at me, I'm that annoying anon who spouts /co/ memes about what happened in a show instead of what actually happened!

>>94176391
She shares the same opinions I have about fingerless gloves, so shes cool.

She's annoying, worst part of a already mediocre show.

She was super fun and likable until Hirsch ruined her. At the same time I think /co/'s hateboner for her is them projecting their own problems with women in their life.

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A lot of anons seem to wish she reciprocated Dipper's thoughtfulness more, to put it mildly. I guess I kind of agree in some ways, but at the end of the day I'm glad we got a show with a couple of adorable sibs that break the convention of being at each other's throats a lot of the time and are genuinely best buds.

And I know a lot of people are sick of Schall's voice, but I can't imagine any other voice for her.

>>94176391
She seems easy to get to fuck.

>>94177860
I've met very few people outside of 4chan who don't adore her

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Dipdops is tiptops.

I liked Mabel at first, and I appreciate how she was a victim to slapstick a lot during the first season. I feel like if they had done 3 seasons, they would've handled it fine.

Will Gravity Falls threads come back once the official comics start being released?

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Never Forget

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Superior star girl.

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My problem with Mabel is she's a character type I hate. I can't stand hyperactive characters, so I never enjoyed her, and when she fucked everything up in the end I hated her more.

>>94177979
>Gravity Falls
>mediocre show
It's the best fucking cartoon in existence, dipshit.

>>94178407
Go back to bed, Alex.

>>94178407
It's mediocre

>>94178454
Your mom was mediocre.

>>94178109
I'm hoping those are storytimed. And that we get more of Dipper in his socks or bare feet.

>>94178528
That's being pretty generous.

>>94178407
Why?

>>94178800
Because of all the numerous cartoons I've seen, it was the one I enjoyed the most. Only Avatar even comes close, as a matter of fact.

>>94178893
Why do you like it so much?

>>94176391
She's bad news.

>>94178925
I don't feel like writing up a full response right now, but suffice it to say the main reason is that it doesn't have a single bad episode. That's more than I can say for literally any other cartoon I've watched.

>>94179302
>a single bad episode.

How about Escape from Reality?

>>94179335
It's great, and even necessary considering the context. (And Mabel's admission that she was acting crazy at the end, along with her telling Dipper she wouldn't hold him back, addressed the issues /co/ keeps bringing up, in my view.)

>>94179302
I love the show too. I felt there was a golden-age Simpsons influence--a lot of episodes had a rapid fire barrage of great jokes that didn't let up, and I can't think of many other shows that had the same amount of hype and buzz over each episode ending, with the cryptograms, puzzles, and theories.

As much as /co/ seems to hate it, there was a period when it couldn't stop sucking GF's cock. There's speculation over why the ending happened the way it did, and a lot of people don't find it satisfying, but as a whole it's undeniably a very strong show.

>>94179335
I haven't rewatched it, but I personally felt that the weakest ep was that roadtrip one where Dipper gets pickup artist tips from Stan and then gets shit on by all the girls.
I felt the moral was confused and it was also pointless in that it didn't tie in with the story or do any world building.

>>94179816
The thing is, I really don't understand why people even wanted a 3rd season. There was so little left to resolve that many complained of season 2b feeling like filler. The ending was really as satisfying as it could reasonably be.

And I would probably agree on the roadtrip episode being the weakest relative to the others, though I still enjoyed it.

>>94176391
Mabel a shit

Mostly dirty.

Pacifica is better
Hotter
Bustier

>>94180520
Smarter
Blonder
Less apocalyptic

>>94180520
But much less of a character.

>>94180580
I wouldn't call Mabel much of a character either

>>94179990
They could have spread out 2a a little with mystery hijinks and ended it as a proper season 2 with the author reveal. Then they could have spent 2b having Ford actually develop as a character, spend some time with the other Mystery Shack peeps and townsfolk or even Mabel and build up the importance of the wheel or the undercurrent of Dipper and Mabel drifting apart. Instead most of that got shoved into it and we felt it, season 2b kinda sucked because it had no breathing room and when it did (road trip) it was kinda sucky. You could feel the burnout and Hirsch just wanting to end it during the time between NWHS and Weirdmageddon.

>>94180639
I wouldn't call you intelligent enough to make that judgement, either.

>>94180854
Mabel's whole character is essentially being insufferably cute and quirky

>>94180848
>They could have spread out 2a a little with mystery hijinks
See, there's the problem. That was already starting to wear thin by the end of season 1. Season 2 avoided that issue by cramming in a bunch of plot episodes, but if there was a 3rd season it wouldn't have been able to do that.
>season 2b kinda sucked because it had no breathing room and when it did (road trip) it was kinda sucky.
So the fact that a filler episode towards the end of the show sucked according to you means that we needed more of them?

>>94180901
Na man, I'm just saying it coulda used some filler to make Ford an actual member of the cast instead of sprinting to the end. I don't think mystery hijinks were wearing thin, people loved the Northwest Manor episode and seeing Dipper be the go-to paranormal guy was kinda cool. There could have been mummies or werewolves or will-o-wisps and more, the possibilities were endless.

>>94176391
Marbles is quite the selfish one, she's cute but Hersheys fucked up the writing and didn't redumble her. It's a shame, because Attracting Force State of Rapidly Descending could've been a 10/10 spaghettiO's

>>94181098
It really wouldn't have taken that much effort to give her some satisfying development.

I would've forgiven all of her bullshit throughout the series if she had just apologized for Weirdmageddon and promised to be a better sister to Dipper from now own.

>>94177882
>look at me, I'm the anon that, instead of pointing out flaws in arguments I disagree with, I just call them memes and act like that proves them wrong, hey, look at me!

>>94181164
But those aren't arguments, he's just stating things that never happened in the show as if they were facts.

>>94180959
They had DD&D and it wasn't that great in terms of Ford's involvement. More episodes like that would have been grating.
(Same thing happened with The Stanchurian Candidate but to a lesser extent.)

And NMM was primarily liked for Pacifica's development, the whole thing about Dipper being the on-call guy for that was cool but barely noticed as a minor detail.

>>94181301
He's exaggerating, but his interpretation of the show towards the end is still accurate.

>>94181483
Except his exaggeration, if you can call it that, distorts the facts to the point that they don't resemble the show at all. He makes Mabel out to be a terrible person - you know, the same Mabel who broke down crying when told she isn't actually a good person, and did everything she could think of to change that?

>>94176391
1. Cute
2. I like seeing her get nailed by her twin brother, but not when it's aged up because then it's less cute.

Those are my honest thoughts in their entirety.

>>94176391
Unless the show pulled some completely convoluted bullshit like selective memory loss that never gets reversed, she was entirely apologetic for causing the apocalypse despite knowing that she did so.

>>94181576
The same mabel that can be impulsive (the deal made during Armageddon, shouting `DEATH` when asked how to punish blenden), as well as controlling (love guru) and arrogant (being shocked that a unicorn could think of her as anything less that completely innocent). She also, in the same episode you mentioned, starts listing actions that could cause the unicorn to dislike her.

>>94182131
You can't be serious... can you?

>>94182163
I'll admit that most of this is just bad writing on Alex's part, but an inconsistently written character can still be a bad character.

>>94182282
No, I'm shocked because those are ridiculously minor things for the most part, and all mistakes that even many generally well-meaning adults could make.

>>94182330
Just because you view these flaws as minor, that doesn't mean they aren't there, and whilst she might be well meaning, she never experiences any consequences. In all examples given, the situation either works itself out, wasn't an actual issue to begin with or is just ignored.

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I wonder who has it worse.

Rowley or Dipper?

>>94182875
Rowley's got a terrible friend, but Dipper's got a terrible sibling. I'd lean towards Dipper

>>94182903
But Greg didn't do something irredeemable like causing the apocalypse

>>94183664
Would he have done that, if it were possible for him to?

>>94177436
More like an adorable bundle of shit

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She looks cute when she's kissing her brother

>>94176391
her name rhymes with table. it also rhymes with schable

no seriously I love her. She's another Homestar Runner to me. I love goofy idiot characters who are actually written well instead of just being a plot black hole like Bloo or... basically everyone from old warner cartoons

>>94178035
Yep! I'd love my own Mabel. I mean, as it is, I got a sister that broke my shit and fucked my life up from time to time, i'd like to have that AND cuteness and love.

>>94178264
I love her slightly less than Mabel but for all the same reasons. she is my replacement Mabel
>>94179990
the problem is season 2b is mostly what 3 should have been. a proper season 2 would have had more time to explore Ford instead of just 'leave me alone, i have to remain a mystery for a while!' and the original plan was to have Bill only be the herald of an even worse bad guy.
Still, the way it ended up was fine

>>94179990
>>94179816
The thing is, if you cut out that one scene, and the scene where he fucking apologizes to BMO when she's the one who owes him an apology, .. basically if you cut out all the pussy-pass moments, it was great. the spider woman was great, the idea that old men can easily be tricked by slightly slutty women, that was as much as we needed. Right up til the end Dipper was, if you'll forgive the term, alpha as fuck

>>94181576
I love Mabel, but that isn't a good support for the obvious fact that she is a good person.. the fact is, people who react horribly to the suggestion that they might not be a good person... are often the worst. Genuinely good people are confident enough in it not to care what others think.
Then agian, she's years behind where she should be in development mentally and physically, so it helps if you think of her as 8. Those mistakes and emotional issues all make sense then

>>94186132
more more more more more more more
more with subtle lines that may or may not be a small dusting of leg hair on mabel

>>94187286
Less.

>>94184638
If it made him famous, throw in fucking over Rowley for the fourth motherfucking time in a row. Seriously, will Rowley ever learn?

Local girl ruins everything

>>94176391
Started great, never changed, turned into trash as the show went on and never forced her to change or make hard decisions.

>>94177418
Annoying and self-centered to the point of ruining the happiness of those around her?

>>94188620
/thread

>>94176391
I never truly disliked her, but I can see where the people who hated her were coming from.

Never really had a problem with her. I guess its because I don't self insert into Dipper like the rest of /co/.

>>94186132
This may have been the exact picture that got me into that ship like, 4 years ago

>>94179302
>not a single bad episode
Dungeons dungeons and dungeons, Mayor Stan, Love God, Roadside Attraction, A Tale of Two Stans, Weirdmageddon part 2, The Last Mabelcorn...

>>94176391
Insufferable

>>94190741
A lot of the season 1 episodes were just kind of meh, as well.

>>94190802
That's true

>>94176391
Bad

>>94176391
She's okay.

I honestly prefer her reverse version

>>94176391
I don't care for her

>>94187189
>and the original plan was to have Bill only be the herald of an even worse bad guy.
They didn't change that because of the show being only 2 seasons, though. They changed it because they really couldn't think of a more interesting villain.

>>94178264
>comparing quirky jewish normal girl to a lolsorandumb tween alien bimbo
>>93661893 since I like to give credit.

>>94176391
Insufferable bitch. She calmed down somewhat as a adult and ended up as a cafeteria lunch lady. I do not envy Kruppe when those repressed memories with her brother resurface.

imo the show never had enough respect for mabel's story arc (finding a boyfriend) and always turned these plots into a joke, they weren't ever really treated equally and I hate that. I agree that she's annoying but I feel like it's because she was always cast as the sidekick and never the protagonist

>>94194180
Why do you keep posting this shit, and why do you think Mabel is Jewish?

>>94197703
>and why do you think Mabel is Jewish?
Not him but I recall ONE occasion where she shouts "Mazel tov!" to congratulate Stan on something.

>>94197751
That was a joke

>>94197703
>Why do you keep posting this shit
Because making fun of you SVTFOE losers is fucking hilarious?

>>94198412
You're just posting the same thing every time, wouldn't that get old for you after a while?

>>94196302
You a right to an extent that Mabel had a bad arc. First, this wasn't a very interesting arc, second it's outside of show's point. She should've been interested in mysteries full-time and maybe interested in a few boys, rather than the other way around.

>>94176391
my ex ex ex dressed up as her for halloween last halloween so i hate her

>>94198474
Dude, we're on 4chan. Nothing gets old here.

I think she's cute as fuck.

>>94198476
Wouldn't that make her almost a clone of Dipper?

Related to GF.

In the "Carpet Diem" episode, while Mabel and Dipper were swapped, when Mabel told Dipper that he won the room, he kicked his leg up like a girl, then called Mabel "Dipper".

Why do you think this happened? What would have happened if Dipper was trapped in the sleepover for the entire night and didn't switch back with Mabel until the next day?

>>94199515
No, if she had different personality and attitude.

>>94200075
But that was the original Mabel?

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>>94197751
Jews huh? Well, it's time to teach them that work really goes set you free.

>>94200130
No. If she'd be more supportive and curious, but remained the same otherwise, she'd be perfect.

>>94194180
First Jews kill Jesus, then they cause the apocalypse?

>>94198476
No I disagree, it's better if they have different interests. The problem is that their interests are not treated as equal, for example Dipper's crush on Wendy isn't a joke and is a permanent part of the show's continuity, but Mabel's crushes always turn into a snake and swim away or something.

>>94176391
Second best character after Stan.

>>94202976
The problem is that Mabel's interests lie outside cartoon's point. Like, I get it, maybe there's an audience for the Mabel Pines show, but is there a point to shoehorn it into Gravity Falls, the supernatural mystery comedy?

So naturally it doesn't work. Her plots have no link to main point, thematic or plot-wise, nobody likes them, writers included.

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>>94187286
>more with subtle lines that may or may not be a small dusting of leg hair
Nothing subtle about it. Anyways I was going to redirect you to doubleines/limey404 on the booru, but after looking myself there isn't as much leg hair as I thought.

On a side note the booru really needs an identical image checker before uploading. There's a shitload of duplicates.

>>94197703
Pines can be a Jewish name (no etymological relation to the tree). Hirsch said he thinks of Mabel and Dipper as non-practicing jews, but he leaves it open to the viewer's interpretation.

>>94194180
>If I post this random mess of buzwords again instead of an actual argument, it'll become true!

>>94203201
Gee, Mabel, how come your mom lets you fuck TWO brothers?

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>>94203797
No skins!

>>94180520
More developed
Properly punished
More precious

How can Mabel even compete with her, lads?

>>94204430
She can't.

>>94179816
>I felt there was a golden-age Simpsons influence.
There was. Josh Weinstein wrote for early Simpsons and gravity falls.

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>>94188676