heavy shit why didn't you fuckers warn me?

>>94172500

Because you've apparently not been in a a single Bojack thread on /co/.

>>94173456
Guilty, checking the archives I've just missed the mark every time ones been made, up until now I thought it was just that series /co/ had some praise for at times but you'd usually just see it mentioned in a "what shows do you watch" thread.

I'm surprised people seem to share my views on certain aspects of the show, that doesn't happen much.

On an unrelated note. Any one else blocked from posting to /a/? Im trying yo ship post but get a blocked isp warning for some reason. Yet i can still post on /co/

>>94173989
Why are you saying that here? It'd make a small bit of sense if you said something related to the thread THEN said that, but just that?

>>94172500

I liked Bojack. Though I feel S1>S2>S3, and didn't really care that much for the characters after season 2.

Like, we get it. BJ won't change-- except now he's actually suicidal and even his closest friends knows they can't help and go on with their own lives.

Mr PB proves once again that everything just works out for him simply-- maybe because he's got a positive attitude, opposite to BJ

Glad they stopped pushing any Diane Bojack angle
Princess Caroline finds love, but the truth is she's married to her work
The Todd safe space uber cab and introducing his female friend just for the whole asexuality appeal was cringy

they stalked out Penny, and she played out like some victim even though nothing happened back then--They were sober and legal in New Mex

Sarah Lynn death was kinda "soften" because they did a fakeout in the previous scene

a lot of things were mentioned in passing, but they never came to fruition. The Ana Skapicioa thing just kinda fizzled out, and Jill Pill led to that Hamster guy and they talked about "The Bojack Horseman Show," but we don't learn much except it was a failure

Goober with his heorin led to the whale strippers becoming uber drivers and they saved the day with Mr PB's spaghetti strainer shenanigans

S3 was a mess

>>94172500
Finishing this show actually put me into such a deep depression that I eventually ran off my friends with my shitty behavior.
Can't wait for the new episodes.

>>94172500
Bojack is the type of character you love to hate and hate to love

>>94174012
S3 was fiddling about because they had no ideas left. "The Diane Show" is especially uneventful.

The amount of teasing for S4 at the end was shameful. "Nothing's happening NOW, but NEXT TIME..."

>>94174012
I saw this in the archives and wished I was there to respond

I think it started dropping too, but it didn't make me feel anything bad that much, I think the feminist angle, ableist mention, and shit like that sucked, but it didn't interfere that much except when the uber thing started, but I still just kinda ignored it because i was still into the show.

I watch it knowing Bojack's life just keeps getting worse and it's anti-character progressing, but I'm fine with that because I have sympathy for him, usually.

I'm looking forward to S4, I just hope they don't use the daughter thing to make even more annoying messages then they have before.

The writing is weird, they treat characters that are clearly in the wrong as in the right, but it's usually everyone but Bojack. The only time I had a slight idea to drop the series was the episode where Diane gets mad that Peanutbutter didn't 100% trust her that an actor was dead, decided to look it up, and she goes on a multi-day (i think) tangent that he couldn't just believe she was right, and in the end he said sorry, then there was another episode that kept praising her but I can't remember which because there were a few that did it at times, it was just shitty when she was around.

I could tolerate her up until Bojack starting liking her, and then the story came into her favor more and more. Like when Peanutbutter said many good points about her birthday being for her and not just him but that was just ignored because of the stuff she was pointing out. I can't sympathize with her.

>>94174207

Diane is the worse and garbage person.

I was disappointed Bojack didn't push her off the roof. But that would be a different kind of show.

>>94172500

Watched the first 2 episodes of season 1 last night.

Does this show get better? Because right now it's an ok comedy, but cheesy and predictable with formulaic plots and relationships.

>>94174559
It gets more and more complex, not majorly, but it starts at square 1. Todd has his moments that change him from being the wacky side kick, but there is a Season 2/3 thing he does with Peanutbutter, but I think it's fun, sometimes boring, but never skippable.

I'd say watch until the end of the season and go from there

>>94174207
>The only time I had a slight idea to drop the series was the episode where Diane gets mad that Peanutbutter didn't 100% trust her that an actor was dead, decided to look it up, and she goes on a multi-day (i think) tangent that he couldn't just believe she was right, and in the end he said sorry
I don't recall that but are you sure it wasn't demonstrating that she's a petty person overly-concerned with being right and PB was just laying down to avoid a fight? S3 teased constantly about their marriage wearing thin.

I except them to get divorced in the wake of Diane betraying PB by spying on him for the shitty blog she's working for now. Maybe PB will have lost all his money again and she'll get nothing in the settlement and she'll end up being a barista again because she's failed at any other job she's tried; approaching middle age and having not a thing to show for it.

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>>94174559
Yeah, the first few episodes are pretty bad. Mostly just setting up characters and world building, give it till like, the 6th episode and it starts getting really good.

TWEEEST: It's Mr. Peanut Butter who kills himself, not Bojack.

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>>94174031
This show is about owning up to your own shitty behavior and not making excuses, but I feel you.

The second season went dark at the end that it was pretty hard not to get in a funk.

But the third season came out just after a best friend, who was basically my brother, died from an over dose last June so the death in season 3 fucked me up hard. I have never cried over any kind of tv or movie like I did to the Sarah Lynn episode. The scene where she has a moment of clarity saying she wishes she was an architect still fucks me up just thinking about

>>94174637
>are you sure it wasn't demonstrating that she's a petty person overly-concerned with being right and PB was just laying down to avoid a fight?
there are times it does that, but fuck that birthday episode, they did have a fight and in the end he just said it was his bad, the end

>>94174559
I found I didn't fully appreciate seasons 1 or 2 until I had finished them.

It's structured a little bit like a novel in that way. The first "chapters" just set things up for what's to come.

It's a Netflix show so they know people can watch the whole thing at once if they want instead of once a week.

They need to do one final flashback joke and have people do the "this is the time period that is occurring" shtick in present-day scenes and not flashbacks.

>>94174559
Stick with it, it grows on you and has a good story

>>94174668
>The second season went dark at the end
And then ended on the most optimistic thing in the series. I was disappointed with the flat way S3 followed up on that, or rather didn't.

>>94174821
Yeah, you got the sense of optimism that Bojack had there but it just flames out real quickly in the 3rd season.

Season 3 ends on a kind of optimistic note too with Bojack seeing the wild horses running. Considering this (pushing everyone away, Diane even saying he's going to kill himself, feeling guilty about Sarah Lynn) was his absolute bottom, I hope season 4 shows him actually trying to change for the better and make it stick. But from that last scene I'm guessing it'll have him being an eclectic, zen and loosely homeless hippie type of person as a form of ignoring his issues.

>>94174668
At the time of me being midway through season 2 is when I started acting anal to people. I failed classes and messed up emotionally and mentally for the entirety of October - November.
It died down after I finished season 3 around December. By the time I finished the series and I had a few weeks to soul search, a lot of my friends I have previously talked to have either stopped respecting me or completely left because of it.

Now that I understand the reason why I acted like that, I can properly avoid it.

>>94175085
You acted like a shithead because you watched the series?

>>94175405
It made me depressed which in turn made me act like a cunt, but I can't say the show in general made me like that, something else must've caused it in a greater manner.

>>94175479
like your autism?

>>94174736
Why

>>94175939
funny jokes

has a better credits music track than the starting credits has

>what is this? a crossover episode?

>>94176153
WAS there a crossover episode?

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>>94176153

At this point, is there any character you wouldn't feel bad for if they committed suicide? I hate Diana with a passion but I'd still feel bad in place of the others reacting to it, mainly PB.

That said I just want her to be written off but I know that's where they're getting their brownie points and if they did murder her they'd use it to make everyone sympathize with her asshole personality.

Would you a fem bojack or a fem mr. PB?

>>94176296
Her character growth is her realizing she's an asshole. Why do you thinkBojack got along with her so well?

>>94176375
She really backpeddled at the end of S3. In a really ham-handed way, really. That scene about the glasses of water was kind of shit, like a lot in that season.

I can't wait for next season where 4 characters get cancer, 5 of them get horribly raped, and 2 of them commit suicide.

Seriously someone should be sued for putting this under 'comedy'

>>94172500
DUDE WHAT IF OUR CHARACTER HAD A PERMANENT HORSEMASK LMAO!

>>94176462
Did you just see the cat meme picture and think that was it? The characters are all mixed animals and humans

>WTF BOJACK YOU HAD SEX WITH EMILY!? YOU NEED TO STOP BEING SHITTY TO OTHER PEOPLE
>jklol Emily I'm an asexual cuck piece of human waste

Name a character worse than Todd.

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Is Bojack the Evangelion of cartoons?

So what's the appeal specifically of this show? Is it like Moral Orel where it starts out jokey and funny with some serious overtones but by season 3 it's very dark? I loved Moral Orel.

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>>94176521
nah, it's the Requiem 5 a Dream of cartoons

>>94176559
Imagine that but much more depressing and much less funny.

>>94174012
>Jill Pill led to that Hamster guy and they talked about "The Bojack Horseman Show," but we don't learn much except it was a failure

Couldn't be more wrong. Bojack deliberately sabotaged "The Bojack Horseman" show due to a fear of success and the failing ratings forcing him to go to Sarah Lynn further cemented that he played a massive part in her life being fucked up

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>>94176521
>Is Bojack the Evangelion of cartoons?

>>94172500
He should have tapped that deer.

>>94176583
Is it good though? I liked the depressing parts of Moral Orel because they were done well. South Park is an example of a show where they sometimes try to have depressing stuff but it's so silly that it still comes off as funny instead.

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>>94176643
>Kenny Dies where instead of Cartman using the stem cells to save Kenny he instead uses it to make a Shakey's Pizza

>>94176643
Aside from "You're Getting Old," South Park realizes that it's a comedy show and they're comedy writers.

Bojack is more like a drama that will fill the viewer with existential despair with a bit of comedy every 5 episodes. It's not even comparable much to Moral Orel.

This show gets a lot of praise but I just can't deal with anthropomorphic series a lot of the time. Not even a furry hater. Fucking Fifi did things to me before I even knew what those things were.

Like if I take Regular Show... things like Benson and Hi5 are neat. They keep their traits before being humanized. But Mordecai you could go back and forth and nothing of value would be loss if he was depicted as a human instead of a talking bird. His blue jay trait of being noisy was just given to Rigby.

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I don't think Bojack should feel bad. Sarah Lynn was a grown women, she should be responsible for herself.

>>94176785
he was still an enabler

>>94176785
"Sarah Lynn.....?"

>>94176785
And the woman she grew into was largely due to her childhood, which was mostly out of her control. She said it herself, "I was nine, I didn't know what I was getting into." BoJack was a father figure to her, he could have made a difference. Instead he just let her fall, then dragged her into a bender after she had been sober for months.

>>94174559
if you do watch it, don't binge on it. you might get a panic attack

>>94176913
oh please. she was an enabler too. she literally had drugs built inside of her house. come on.

>>94176348
fem bojack.
>tfw no clingy gf

>>94177025
The character herself said she was specifically being sober just so she could get into it again though. Like she was literally just waiting for the bender.
she wasn't like "NO BOJACK I'VE BEEN SOBER I'VE GOT A LIFE NOW"

>>94177025
>dragged her

he didn't drag her in to anything. they were both a bad influence on each other. you can't blame one or the other

>>94172500
i hope they bring back sebastian st claire

>>94173930
>people seem to share my views on certain aspects of the show
which would be?

*warlock of autism wrings his hands together*

Is anyone else really curious what the intro will look like next season? since they pride themselves on continuity and such and it seems like bojack doesn't even live in la anymore

>>94177183
I'm usually the only person shitting on the Diana type, but here seems to universally see her a shit, among the other diana-tier subjects they introduced

>>94177311
>I'm usually the only person shitting on the Diana type
How? The whole season season was about how she was full of shit.

>>94177329
I mean in other show discussion I'm usually alone in it, and I meant before they started making her try to realize her shitty personality, back when everyone would randomly give her praise or shit

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Todd will get with the modest mouse

>>94177527
He's asexual. if anything they'll either kill him off or have him kill himself because nobody will lose anything.

>>94177544
>nobody will lose anything.
the writers will lose their crutch

>>94177572
But what is that crutch leaning on? yeah Todd is pretty much the ONLY source of comedy in the show out of the main cast, but without the ability to form a relationship he's pointless, and also a huge hypocrite for being SO SHOCKED that Bojack slept with Emily.

>>94177623
I think that was a "I feel bad you used her" thing, they seem to be ramping up to having every character one day defend a woman at every chance, it's just subtle here.

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>>94172500
Because only normies can be related with him.

>>94172500
Because you belong to reddit.
>b-b-but muh normal life! My social anxiety!
Fuck off, retard.

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>>94172500

>>94177664
>used her
>sexually proposition an adult who accepts
Just because she has the face of an elementary schooler doesn't mean she isn't responsible for herself.

>>94177664

Except BoJack didn't use her? She clearly wanted sex, but since Todd kept backing out she went for the next available cock.

>>94178103
Rather she became very insecure that she wasn't desirable and banged Bojack as a sort of rebound.

Not anyone's mess but her own.

>>94178076
>>94178103
Either way it'd be bad writing, but in this situation it'd make sense from their view since they seem to twist logic to make sympathy happen

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>>94176521

>>94176518
He's a shit but still pulled through with one of the more memorable parts of the series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRqC9GzodtI

>>94178076
Even if she was consenting and completely aware that he was using her to temporarily distract himself from how shitty he felt, it doesn't change that he did use her to do that. And she used him too for the same thing. In that individual act, she was just as bad and Todd had a right to be upset with her too. But that doesn't make what BoJack did less bad.

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>>94177544
>He's asexual
What?

>>94178185
I thought that scene was a flop exactly because how how ambiguous the morality of the situation was. Dopey ol' Todd finally getting tired of Bojack's shit was a big bullet in their gun from the beginning and they totally misfired.

>>94178216
His old tomboy friend obviously wanted his dick and he spaghetti'd out.

Later she asked if he was gay and he said "I don't think I'm anything".

Falling for the "including minorities makes it good" fallacy was a sign of a how the third season was a step down.

>>94178216
He might not adopt the label asexual, but there's a scene at the end of season 3 where his horny girlfriend asks why he won't have sex with her, and if it's because he's gay. And he admits he's definitely not gay but he's starting to think maybe he's not straight either, because he just doesn't seem to want to have sex. His words were "I think I'm nothing." What he was describing fits perfectly in the definition of "asexual" for a lot of people who do use that word.

I have a feeling season 4 is going to have Todd fall in with that SJW mouse that hired Diane, and SJW mouse will probably try to assign like 40 different sexuality labels to Todd before he says fuck it and distances himself from that shit.

>>94178254
It's the delivery from Aaron that made it more memorable to me. But you're right. The reason for Todd finally losing his shit was pretty flimsy.

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>>94178297
>Falling for the "including minorities makes it good" fallacy
>Falling for muh boogiemen

How pathetic

>>94176521
No, that's Moral Orel.

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>>94177957

>>94176296
I can't see any character committing suicide aside from Bojack, maybe Princess Caroline if she was fired, I dunno

>>94179186
Suicide often occurs in people who you'd never expect it from.

Season 2 ended on a good foot.

Then Season 3 took the ending to season 2, threw it out the window and reverted back to their old tropes.

>Season 1: "welcome to the show"
>Season 2: "now that we've established the world and its characters, we can start the bigger story"
>Season 3: "we're waiting for season 4"

>>94174559
Yes, shit's drop on opisode 5, but everything before becomes relevant

>>94178019
We need audio webms.

my favorite jokes were the background banners that said a transcript of everything peanut butter even after the message. We don't get enough background jokes that aren't pointed out

>>94176521
Moral Orel

>>94176521
Evangelion is crap for nostalgic weebs.

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>>94180990
This

Mr Penisbutter did nothing wrong

>>94181461
I love his stupid and innocent smile

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I'm not sure I get why they needed the owl character, was there not enough female characters cracking one liners?

>>94180956
We need to ban webms and stick to gifs

>>94182911
To get Bojack off of Diane. He felt he couldn't connect to anyone since everyone knew who he was and walked into the relationship with certain expectations. Wanda didn't know shit since she had been in a coma, so he could get a clean slate with her to try for a real relationship.

Was this really hard to understand? They spell it out rather clearly.

>>94183204
I get that, but soon after she turns into a different feeling character

Did they ever explain why Hank Hippopotamus got mad when Mr. PB pulled out the photo with Bojack in it?

I have this crazy feeling he's the key to sinking Hank which will get Diane wet

>>94183383
did he get mad?

I didn't get nominated?

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>>94178336
>I have a feeling season 4 is going to have Todd fall in with that SJW mouse that hired Diane, and SJW mouse will probably try to assign like 40 different sexuality labels to Todd before he says fuck it and distances himself from that shit.

I'm sad that they said if a S5 is given they'll tackle the election. That'll be the nail in the fucking coffin, plus it already sounds like they're not wrapping anything up this next season

>>94183575
He doesn't say anything, but he didn't even recognize Mr. Peanutbutter, which is why PB pulls out the photo. It's Hank and Mr. PB with Bojack in the back on a couch. Hank looks at it and instantly frowns. If it's not Mr. Peanutbutter, what in that photo ticked him off

>>94184081
maybe just the night was bad

I have high appreciation and respect for the show's continuity and the insane details in the theme song

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>In the series finale, The Horse dies of a broken heart because the children didn't appreciate him enough. They are handed back over to Child Protective Services.
When do we get to see this finale? Will it be a prank episode instead of the Bojack Horseman finale one day?

>>94184223
>The Horse died because Sarah Lynn could not provide him the loving care of a family
Funny the first watch, mortifying thereafter

>there are people said that a character with 2 fucking annoying catchphrases died

>>94184576
*sad
fucking shit i can't type

>>94182911
well she was an actually good person, i guess she shows that Bojack would ruin even that relationship and not just the ones he has with the other broken/semi-broken people in the show.

>>94184576
>Not appropriating "suck a dick, dumbshits"
Suck a dick, dumbshits

>>94184698
thats the most annoying one

>>94182975
Why? webms are infinitely superior.

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>>94184421
BACK IN THE 90S

>>94179974
Spot on.

>>94182975
M-MUH MOBILE PHONE

>>94184576
>"Who? Ohhh you mean Asian Daria?"

Sarah-Lynn kind of ruled.

>>94176521
I've never seen Evangelion so I wouldn't know.

>>94184858
The drug bender episode was the only time I liked sarah, but i mean that entire episode was great. i loved the blacking out jokes

>lifeguard---

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>>94176559

It's basically a depression-fest, there are so good dramatic moments sprinkled in.However the 'plot' so be it isn't really intriguing enough to hold up the story.Many of the characters are either cringy (Todd,Mr PB) or loathsome (Diana, to an extent Bojack) honestly the only really likable character is Princess Caroline - her moments with Bojack were incredible. Mostly because she strives to have a purpose, be a decent person and actually help others.

Diana is just a mouthpiece of soapboxing, once they got to the cringy feminist angles or just the outright pure selfish and unfuny stuff with Diana (even when they tried to give her a backstory) I just couldn't stand her any second she was on screen. She is basically there to talk down to other characters.

Bojack feels like the character is not going anywhere and can't ever change. He has fleeting moments of interest and hope but it's often dashed away by his continual refusal to grow.

Moral Orel was a different story, because the lead Orel - was trying his best to be an upstanding good person surrounded by horrible people. He by proxy made other people better and grew up in spite of all that. When he could've easily gone down the bad route.

Clay is similar to Bojack in alot of respects, but the build up for sympathy/backstory is more intriguing then (lol celebrity partying too hard and being rich) and ALSO he WASN'T the main character.

What the fuck is with all the Bojack theme song parodies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf0st12nWGs

Series ends at the end of season 2. Season 3 was a shitfest and looks like season 4 is gonna be even worse.

>>94179264
Yea, but that's because those people's innermost thoughts aren't shared with everybody. In Bojack Horseman, we know a lot about how each main character is feeling, so we could see who is most likely to commit suicide

>>94184972
I was about to ask why you said that about S4 but then I remembered everything, even the feminist magazine shit and them giving bojack a daughter, that's going to piss me off if they use her and make bojack great again, they seem to make the females do the lifting and then something to make us sympathize with them, in a major circle

>>94184698
>>94184858
I hated Sarah-Lynn and I was happy when she died.

>>94176073
BACK IN THE 90S

>>94176559
It's like that, except okay at best. Orel balanced its tones brilliantly. Bojack doesn't. It sets "serious" in one box and "silly" in another, while Orel mixes them.