He has a point.

> It's a "writer soapboxes for an entire page" episode
Show, don't tell you fucking hacks

All Muslims should be killed.

>every single terrorist ever comes from a broken home and have a glut of personal problems and literally no of the motivation comes from the religion itself

t. Terrorist apologist.

Call me back when he explicitly condemns Quran literalists and pushes for Islamic reform.

Not really.
>>94148945
I mean if it makes you feel better I think the subtext is the radicalization of the villains who took him captive and he's totally wrong in assuming he was picked up for being a Muzzy.

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>>94148925
>trying to blame it on normal people saying that they are just kids that snaped or some shit when they have a fuckton of people organized to blowing up everything they can and shoot up anything that moves.
nice try isis, please stop writting comics and keep editing your beheading videos.

>>94148945
> It's a "writer soapboxes for an entire page" episode
Nope. It's a, writer soapboxes for THREE whole pages only for a character to then go "that's nice but this isn't a muslim thing".

>>94149035
>terrorism is done by normal people just trying to fit in who can't!
>no don't focus on the fact that Muslim theocracies are the epicenter of Muslim terror attacks
>don't focus on imams advocating for the destruction of the west on national TV
>don't focus on the state funded children's broadcasting about killing the jews

>>94148975
Agreed. Only Muslims have 'vultures' that get these kinds of people into suicide vests.
No other religion has people doing this shit in its name in western nations.

>Trying to integrate is what makes us into suicide bombers so instead of us integrating YOU should change your society to match us

Haha, these people are legitimately fucking insane.

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>>94148925
Just watched "that otoko's" video on this issue hoping there'd be a thread.

I can't be assed reading all those wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswords

>>94149170
He's right though, bigot.

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>>94149208
I'm gonna give you a quick rundown "we dindu nuffin, it's all non muslim people's fault, sharia for everyone!"
>meanwhile in europe

>Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant. Q 9:20

time to book a flight to Syria.

>>94149190
>Unsolicited opinions

>>94149170
It's also wrong. I live in southern Ontario. We have a large foreign population, Asians Indians and Middle Easterners. We have almost never had any sort of terror problems whatsoever. Why? Because all of these groups are third and fourth generation descendants of proper immigrants who were integrated and modernized. Most Muslim women I know personally have never even worn a hijab.

Meanwhileeestrrn Europe is having terror problems specifically because of refugees. They form cultural enclaves where their communities don't ever interact with the larger populace. The majority do not speak English or French or German, and their children end up even more radical than they were originally. Terrorism is a direct result of islamization which is a result of not integrating.

>>94148925
>I'm entitled other people's feelings

NAH

>>94149239

No he isn't.

>>94148925
>They look like YOU, man.
I'm pretty certain they don't.

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>>94148925
>m-muslims d-dont cause violence

yeah, normal kids who look, I'm guessing, white, are the ones causing all the violence.

Every weekend in Chicago is worse than whatever random white kid shooting up his school.

>>94149239
Assimilate or go back to your ancestral home.

>>94149070
>don't focus on the state funded children's broadcasting about killing the jews
Honestly I'm disappointed how this is glossed over by pretty much every MSM, but really I shouldn't be surprised.

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>>94148925
>people ITT flip out saying this page is trying to absolve terrorists of blame
>when in the last panel he outright states that the people who do this shit were monsters before they were radicalized
I know reading is hard, you guys, but you can at least finish a fucking page of a comic book before shitting all over this korean wet nurse image board

Oh who am I kidding, you faggot gen Z'ers are basically illiterate and have no critical thinking skills. I didn't think any generation could be less moral than boomers or more obnoxious than millenials but you cocksuckers are managing to be both

Why does Willow get a pass for soapboxing while Waid and everybody else gets shit for it?

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>>94149284
>Never worn a hijab
But...my fetish.

>>94149377
>when in the last panel he outright states that the people who do this shit were monsters before they were radicalized
Right, he's deflecting the blame off of Islam itself which is wrong.

>/co/ jumps to conclusions from a single page, Take 47257.

On one hand, this is a lazy way to write a comic page.
On the other, you can't tell if the writer is talking through this character or not from this page alone.

You need context, you dolts.

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>>94149070
>don't focus on the state funded children's broadcasting about killing the jews

>>94148975
>Call me back when he explicitly condemns Quran literalists and pushes for Islamic reform

This. Kamala is the Muslim face of Marvel and she has never ONCE spoken out against literalists and talked about reform.

Not once.

>>94149377
fuck off hassam

>>94149419
You need context.
This thread was never about the comic.

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>>94149419
>you need context
but anon that would require critical thinking skills, an attention span, and a basic understanding of storytelling.

You expect way too much from these mouth-breathers, especially in a "stealth" /pol/ thread. You think someone that supports Trump is going to be capable of even entertaining the thought that an author might not agree with a character they're writing?

>>94148925
Of course he has a point, he's right. Normal people don't suddenly become terrorists because they are muslim. Terrorists are made the same way all radicals are made, the leaders snipe the outsiders and discarded individuals and brainwash them with what they want to hear. From there its only a few months from a bomb vest.

>>94148925

No, they really don't. The one thing that unites mudslime terrorists is that they're extremely gullible, spiteful, and envious.

>>94149376
We'll always have MEMRI TV.

>>94149431
That's because wilson is insane and wanted an actual women's rights activist to get raped because she was helping women.

>>94149377
>who do this shit were monsters before they were radicalized
99% of suicide bombers are Muslims. Christian, Buddhist, Shintoist radicals, for some reason, are much less likely to become murdering terrorists.

>>94148925
Sharia 4 Marvel

Inshallah

>>94148925
>account of the prophet's life

How the fuck is this even an argument when Muhammad was a desert warlord? I mean I just don't understand what's with these people and pretending Muhammad was some nice guy who dindu nuffin- he wasn't like Moses who had God bitchslap the Egyptians without Moses himself getting his hands dirty and he wasn't like Jesus either- he literally lead soldiers around attacking caravans until he assembled an army of Bedouin attracted to him by his success as a general and the promise of plundering the rich trading city of Mecca and then became ruler over all the Arabs.

>>94149447
I know they're trying to shitpost. I don't care. I'm so fucking sick of people posting one page or panel without context and pretending whoever is speaking must stand for the author's beliefs.

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>>94149431
But I thought you faggots didn't want politics in your comics? That's what you say every time Marvel takes a left wing stance.

>>94149475
Right
But the thing is that ONLY happens with Islam

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>>94149509
And I'm sick of retards like >>94149490 trying to simplify the decades of horrible foreign policy that led to a number of majority muslim nations being totally destabilized war-torn hellholes that we bomb with robots daily to "muslim bad!"

Doesn't mean the retards are gonna stop shouting any time soon.

Especially when a few of the more influential mods (read: fags who spend all day on IRC) are stormfags

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>>94149526
>The IRA

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>>94149419
>You need context, you dolts.
Then speak. What's the context?

An isolated panel such as this one necessitates context, but an entire page of a single character giving a lengthy spiel on behalf of the writer stands up for itself.

>>94149239
The only Asian-American school shooter I can name in recent memory is Cho, and there are more Asians than Muslims. So shouldn't there be a bunch of crazed Asian terrorists from /r/AsianMasculinity running around, instead of shitposters who make threads on /pol/ about how white girls crave Asian dick?

>>94149526
But the Crusades, anon!

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SHOO GO ON GIT!

>>94149564
The IRA still exists?

>>94149284
Canada is a cultural mosaic you racist.

>>94149496
Actually, a number of historians think Moses was a warlord himself and the entire situation was more bloody than the bible retells it. It's just hard to know for certain due to it being thousands of years old. What is known is that the fiction behind the story is fiction.

>>94149555
>/pol/ being for more government control
>Taking their shitposts seriously
whoever made that image is a retard

Is this /SuicideSquad/ General?

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>>94149573
Asians are a non-violent cucked race who live to kiss up to whites.

>>94149482
Source

>>94149524
>Character is defined and marketed based on her religion and culture
>Never critically examines her religion and culture

>>94149555
>Blame it on the west

The problem was we tried treating them like Japan and Germany. We thought once we shot the bad guys the sane people in the mid east would take over.

The problem is there wasn't any sane faction to take over in the mid-east.

There are no "good guys" in the mid-east. Just followers of a bronze age desert warlord.

>>94149284
But they don't want to integrate. Most immigrants/refugees go to Europe for economic reasons, not for freedom or peace or other bullshit some left wing loon tells people on the CBC. They want Europe to change, and it will either by the erosion of European cultures, values, and traditions. Or through Muslims strangling Europe through its terrorist actions.

>>94149564
...have not been active for many years, and certainly are not reminding us of their barbarity on a near monthly basis

>>94149144
Widespread radicalisation simply requires both a disaffected populace and an extreme ideology that tells said populace what they want to hear. The same thing happened with sullen white kids joining communist terror groups in the 1970s.

>>94149555
>that image

Either /pol/ is nazis or they're shitposters. You guys can't have it both ways.

>>94149594
They do

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>>94149526
>abortion clinic bombings
>attacks on synagogues and mosques
>planned parenthood shootings
>the IRA
>the ELF
>Lehava

>>94149600
Were you trying to make a fedorapost? Because I'm not here to argue with "le bibble is fiction" masterb8ers.

>>94149555
>y the decades of horrible foreign policy that led to a number of majority muslim nations being totally destabilized war-torn hellholes that we bomb with robots
Remember that time the US started wars that killed 20% of the population in Korea and Vietnam?
How many terrorist attacks against the West came from those countries again?

>>94149622
Agreed, the Islamization of the western world is the biggest threat faced from mass-immigration. Terrorism is just a by-product.

>>94149617
>The problem was we tried treating them like Japan and Germany
wat
>We thought once we shot the bad guys the sane people in the mid east would take over.
WAT

No, moron, we've had a policy of intentional destabilization since the fucking Shah fell. Read a book.

What is Miss Marvel's favorite brand of Acid?

>>94149617
Mohammed was early medieval, not bronze age. And he wasn't really a warlord himself, more a preacher who had a bunch of warlords do his bidding (now Omar, the second caliph, was a real warlord).

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Okay but whaakes any of you think you know what makes a terrorist tick?

As a frame of reference I actually had to look up terrorist recruitment for a project dealing with that stuff, and you know what the most common story is?

It's second generation Muslims who watch videos of western countries blowing their home countries up and feeling angry at those countries and also guilty for not doing anything about it, so they book a ticket to fight there and then realize the terrorists there are actually a bunch of military goons who don't give a shit about the cause and are just moving drugs.

Fucking NOTHING about that has to do with some sob story about them being outcast, it's literally just the same tactics they use on college students to radicalized into left wing protestors, because they look up propaganda that makes them mad and they feel guilty for not doing anything about it.

And honestly, I can kind of relate having come from a country ruined by communists, feeling mad that people still say the revolution will come or whatever, and guilty that I got out of my country instead of fixing it, I really did think about just getting some guns and a boat and going back there with other angry people.

Disenfranchised nationalism is a serious thing, man, you don't just displace a bunch of people from a place they've called home for years and expect their kids to be cool with it when you can tangibly feel how not cool the situation is.

All that said, islam is literally based on militant theocracy, stop whitewashing the reality of their culture and either stamp it out or leave it be, but don't wishy wash it away and hand wave it off like some liberal psychoanalyst and come to some half assed compromise that leaves them angry enough to bomb your shit all day.

>>94149662
I mean for the most part it is. It's a lot of metaphors over non-fiction unless you really believe adam and eve existed and lived for 900 years.

>>94148925
>The only punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is that they should be murdered, or crucified, or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides, or they should be imprisoned. This shall be a disgrace for them in this world, and in the Hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement. Except those who repent before you overpower them; so know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
wtf i hate the quran now

>>94149623
>It ONLY happens with Islam!
>Counter example
>B-b-b-but that was twenty years ago, it doesn't count!

Shut the fuck up.

>>94149673
>comparing functioning nation-states that we left with viable infrastructure and economic assistance to the constant free-for-all that is the middle east
You are a complete and total moron.

>>94149465
>several ad hominems used as an argument
>/pol/ boogeyman
>trumbf buzzword
The worst part of this post is that you seem to think you've got incredible "critical thinking skills" yourself.

is there any correlation between the "Marvel muslim minority push", female superheroes no longer showing skin, and the very sexy exhibitionist antihero females like Black Cat and Emma Frost becoming villains again? as in, women who dress like sluts cant be good people?

>>94149369
I always thought attacks by environmental extremist groups like ELF were a lot more common?

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>>94149622
>Most immigrants/refugees go to Europe for economic reasons, not because they don't want to die horrible painful deaths at the hands of militias

>>94149656

IRA wasnt religious terrorism.

>>94149736
IRA terrorism stopped
Islamic terrorism happens every month or two now, and there's zero reason for it to end any time soon

>>94149656
Wtf, I love muzzies now. Open all borders, its safe.

>>94149569
>on behalf of the writer
HE'S A FUCKING VILLAIN!

Do you look at a page of the Joker monologing and assume that must be the author's stance? Do you look at Rorschach talking about the absolute nature of morality and assume this is what Alan Moore thinks? Fuck's SAKE.

>>94149754
They are. In terms of sheer number of incidents white terrorism beats muslim terrorism in the west handily.

In b4 goalpost is moved and what matters is how many were killed not how much damage was done or how many incidents occurred.

Muslim terrorism is Muslim orthodoxy. It is not some sort of corruption or perversion of the faith's doctrine. Ergo to condemn Muslim terrorism is to condemn Islam, and so western countries have to handwave terrorism away and say it's caused by other sources. It's their only option, since they can't say or even imply that some religions are morally better than others.

Tolerant societies tolerate their own destruction.

>>94149774
But he's right. Most of the refugees from Syria and Libya fled to the neighboring countries and stayed there.

The current tens of thousands from Africa are not refugees. There's a reason they all want to go Germany, France etc and bitch if they get sent to Latvia instead.

>>94149804
IRA is still active. They killed some bloke just the other day. I still can't go in certain areas.

>>94149742
>Act stupid
>Get called stupid.
>"b...b...but that's not an argument!"
Correct. It's a fact.

>>94149738
Then why did terrorists come from stable, wealthy nations like Saudi Arabia?

>>94149738
>that we left with viable infrastructure and economic assistance
LEL. It was US policy to destroy every single standing building in Korea. The country was a literal pile of rubble after the war.

>>94149814
He's not a villain.
He's the main character's brother being held by the villains.
However again he was wrong in assuming he was a muzzy and it's subtext for the villains radicalization.

>>94149854
Jesus Christ are you for real?

>>94149822
Do you really think vandalism and break-ins are comparable to mass-murder?

>>94149854
Do you not know that Saudi Arabia actively hates and wishes to destroy the US? That terrorism is state-sponsored.

>>94149854
nigga you have to be the most fucking stupid person in 4chan right now, holy fucking shit!

>>94149881
>state sponsored
>MUSLIM THEOCRACY
hmmmm

>>94149870
You're fucking retarded, this conversation clearly has no point.

>>94148925
Why is it only muslims that snap 99% of the time?

>>94149617
Do you want politics in comics or not? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

>>94149569
In this case he thinks he's in because it's a muslim thing (it's not, it's a superhuman thing and he's told as much) so he goes on a spiel for three pages, the villain's lackey is implicitly hit by his speech because kamala's brother basically described his situation.

>>94149899
>>94149870
Are you seriously denying the majority of the 9/11 hijackers came from Gulf Arab states, which are the wealthiest in the Middle East?

>>94149904
Yes, dipshit, Saudi Arabia hates us because they're muslim. It has nothing to do with economics and global political influence, no sir.

Glad we have detective dipshit on the case to throw out any motive except religion.

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>>94148925
>is it bombing season already?

>>94149738
>viable infrastructure
Like the dams and dikes we bombed in Vietnam so that the floods would destroy everything?

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>>94149872
Excuse me, coming through

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>>94148925
Yes it's all about terrorism, nothing at all to do with their enhanced rates of violent and sexual crime.

>>94149800
>>94149804
That doesn't matter.

They said only Muslims do it. People who aren't Muslim do it. You can't just backtrack, nobody's arguing about who's worse.

It's like saying "Only ASIANS exist" and then saying "BUT THEY'RE NOT FROM ASIA!" when a white man is presented. Nobody cares. Stop being a pedantic bitch and accept that being wrong about something isn't the end of the world. Holy fuck.

>>94149934
>Saudi Arabia hates their biggest trading partner and military ally because of economics
Damn you're dumb. Regardless, the Saudi state doesn't hate anyone except Israel, Iran and any gulf state that refuses to lick their boots.

The problem is that the House of Saud is fundamentally tied to a particularly crazy branch of Islam which does the West. Which is why so many of its citizens are terrorists or sponsor terrorism. As long as the Saudis get their oil money and maintain their Arab hegemon they don't care.

>>94149970
This.
>let refugees in
>pedophilia and sex crimes skyrocket more than 2000%
>doesn't get any coverage because it's not "Islamic terrorism"

Jihadism/terrorism is a minor problem that accompanies islamization, the actual problem. Europe does not have an extremist problem, or a terrorism problem, or a refugee problem, they have an ISLAM problem. That problem being the presence of Islam.

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>>94149991
>Saudi Arabia doesn't hate the US
we're done here

>>94149804
>IRA terrorism stopped

That's completely incorrect, the IRA still kills people in Ireland.

>>94150014
Nice rebuttal tard.

First world leftists are very disingenuous with regards to Islam.
There isnt a single muslim country from Morocco to Indonesia (apart from some of the former Soviet Block ones, like Albania and Azerbaijan, that had totalitarian atheist dictatorships for generations) in which it is safe to convert from Islam to another religion.
In almost all muslim countries, non muslims are second class citizens.
The number of muslims who commit terrorist attacks is very tiny, but the number of muslims with extreme beliefs such as apostates should be executed, is in the hundreds of millions, being the majority of the population in many countries.
That is the problem. Not the 0.00001 who commit terrorist attacks.

And things as of now, are getting worse, not better. Indonesia, which was for decades the "proof" of "moderate Islam" existing, is becoming less and less moderate. As you can see from what happened recently to the Christian governor of Jakarta. You may remember the Indonesian artist who was fired recently from XMen Gold for putting islamist easter eggs with Quran Suras against Christians and Jews.

>>94150011
>still propagating and/or believing the swedish/german "rape epidemic" lie
Take a statistics course, mouth-breather.

>>94149736
Islam has attacked.
United States
Britain
France
Spain
Belgium
Russia
Philippines
Germany
Those are the nations off the top of my head. How many nations did the I.R.A. Terrorize? And how many attacks did the Muslim terrorists call in to the police to give people a chance to escape?

>>94148925

What's he trying to say in the third panel, they become terrorists because of intolerant white people? That you can't be successfully integrated with western culture if you're brown?

>>94150092
Yes. It turns out Straight, White Men are the real terrorists.

>>94150041
Yeah man, at least it's just PANCREATIC cancer! I was worried!

Except all cancer is bad, and so are all terror groups, you stupid cunt.

>>94148925
>don't mind the fact that about 40% of muslims think there should be death penalty for living Islam

>and forget that 80% of them think Sharia should rule the land.

>>94150034
>proof of moderate islam existing
Moderate Islam is western Islam.

Just like western Christianity is moderate and western Judaism is moderate.

All three religions worship the same god (of war) and have horrifying, outdated, war-focused systems of law.

I'm sick to death of people claiming Islam is any fucking different from Judaism or Christianity in its calls to violence. Read your fucking holy books.

Guess what: when people live in peace and plenty they tend not to be warlike pricks. When people live in an arid butthole led by a revolving door of warlords that gets bombed so often their children fear blue skies, they tend to be warlike pricks.

>>94149972
The IRA isn't shifting the demographics of entire nations and setting trends that will have them as the majority in just decades
The IRA doesn't have governments and world media bending over backwards to paint them in a positive light
The IRA isn't running their home countries with oppressive and outdated tenets.

And I'm not seeing social media campaigns to fight prejudice against the IRA when one of them kill another dozen people every month or two

These are my complaints with Islam that don't really apply to any one else.

>>94149738
>economic assistance
Like the $50 million that America still wants Cambodia to pay for all the bombs they launched there?
http://www.baka.com.au/world/fury-in-cambodia-as-us-asks-to-be-paid-back-hundreds-of-millions-in-war-debts-20170311-guvxyp.html

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>>94150113
Which Gospel is it where Jesus says to behead everyone who disagrees with him?

>>94150098

It was a genuine question, english is my second language. It sounds to me like in the third panel he's trying to put on the blame on other people but it's out of context so it's a little hard to tell

>>94150135
It was a genuine answer.

Just so you guys know.
It IS all Muslims.

>>94150193
It is ISLAM*.

>>94150035
Getting your news from CNN I see

>>94150118
>These are my complaints with Islam that don't really apply to any one else.
That's nice.
That's not the argument.

I understand you're here to complain, but this has nothing to do with what was said. Your opinion is not a counterargument to non-Muslim terrorists existing. Please, stop saying "but they're worse" as if it somehow stops white terrorists and black terrorists and Christian terrorists from existing. Terrorists are terrorists. Shittier terrorists do not warp reality and undo previous acts of terror.

>>94150106
A group that hasn't been active in decades, who only attacked one area is equal to a group that is constantly active and has attacked many parts of the world, and gives no one a chance to escape it's bombings. Yeah I guess you're right they are equal. Hello moral equivalence my old friend.

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>>94149376
Gotta maintain the narrative. Jews must always be the evil white colonialist opressers, Arabs must always be the innocent childlike victims, no matter how many Jewish children they stab to death in their beds.

Nothing they do can ever be their fault or their culture's fault.

>>94149972
If you're trying to call a push between white and brown terrorism you're retarded and can't into proportions.

I suppose black crime isn't a problem because whites commit the most crimes in America right?

>>94150132
The one where he says "love thy neighbor"
As in Fuck thy neighbor
and by Fuck, it's obviously rape to death, where the head falls off

>be a leftist who supports women rights, gay rights and equality in general
>somehow, support Islam and throw shitfits every time someone dares to criticize the religion
Can someone please explain this line of thinking to me? I'm a faggot and I could never get behind the love affair between liberals and Islam. I do support equality and that's the thing, it seems like Islam is the exact opposite of a tolerant western society. WHY can't you criticize this backwards religion without everyone calling you a racist shitlord (never mind that Islam is not a race)? Why do some retards even try to paint Islam as some sort of feminist religion and act like covering up women is "empowering"? Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Muslim nations kill gays and apostates without remorse?

>>94150252
Pointing at the acts carried out over a decade ago isn't much more valid than pointing at the crusades. We're talking about today, and today only Muslims are frequently committing mass-murder in the name of their religion.

>>94150296
>Strawman

>>94150296
Because they're a "minority" and minorities are incapable of doing anything wrong and must be protected at all costs.

It's basically a politically correct White Man's Burden.

>>94150206
It is same Shit (pun intended)

I think it's perfectly reasonable for the guy in OP's image to say what he says. He's wrong of course, but he wholehartedly beleives it and it's a very common belief in his community.

>>94149284
Canada actually has very strict screening on who can get in and where they're placed. Also, with strong cultural partisans like the quebequois, you aren't going to dramatically move the needle culturally, without a hell of a lot of pushback.

>>94149754
You would have to count misdemeanor vandalisism and tagging, both paint and sticker types to even come close. The DOJ stats are for violent crime.

>>94149774
Most of the migrants are from countries that are not even at war.

>>94149814
LOL. Did you even read the book?

>>94149822
If you're going to be a hair splitting jackass about this, you need to be precise about your numbers. Radical islam dominates the terror stats the way shitposters dominate 4chan. And as muslims are only say 1 percent of Americas, they completely obliterate the per capita stats as well.

>>94150296
Intersectionality.

>>94150266
I didn't call them equal, you fucking illiterate.
I called you a goddamn moron for thinking a smaller version of the same thing is somehow not that thing. Salt Lake is a lake, the Great Lakes don't change that. One group of retards with guns being bigger and more effective doesn't change that they're both terrorist groups.

>>94150296
Not even ex-Muslims from the Middle East are allowed to criticize Islam, what makes you think you can?

>>94149609
Asians don't need to be violent because they can get what they want without looking like a fucktard

>>94150303
As they ALWAYS WERE for centuries

>Nothing they do can ever be their fault or their culture's fault.
Who are you talking about? The jews or the arabs?

>>94149822
Ira was not a religious terror groups and yes there was more terrorism in europe in the 70s-80s, but it was caused by a conbination of both communist and facsist terror groups, no religious.

>>94150296
The left is a very feminized philosophy. Those in power (the enemy) are wrong and evil and those not in power (the children) can do no wrong and are not evil, only misguided.

Why do you think the left loves black culture with its hip hop degradation of women and gays? Hip hop culture is toxic masculinity incarnate and the left kisses its ass because they see blacks as their children who can do no wrong and must be protected.

>>94150113

what is non western christianity?

Eastern Christians, like the Orthodox of Eastern Europe, and the Orientel Orthodox of Armenia, or the Copts of Egypt, believe in pretty much the same things as Catholics. The 2 big differences are some abstractions about the nature of the Trinity only theologians understand, and that may be semantic/translation problems, and the role of the bishop of Rome/Pope.

Most third world christians are catholic, and it is completely safe to convert to another religion in all of Latin america or Angola. Missionaries from the USA have even converted like 30% of Central America into Evangelical protestants (the speaking in voices type), from Catholicism.

The holy books of Christianity dont call for violence. The old testament is sacred scripture for christians, but its law Christians see as abolished. Jesus would be the realization of everything that was in the old testament.

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>>94150132
Do people just not read Revelation anymore?

>>94150349
was also meant for>>94150272

>>94150318
But how do you justify that when this particular minority (muslims) constantly targets other minorities (atheists, christians, gays, jews etc.). both in their country and in other countries they migrate to?

>>94150303
Ok? So you are saying that there are no confounding factors?

>>94150318
>>94150338
>>94150354
>Invented narrative.

>>94150035
>Cologne rape attacks didn't happen
okay merkel.

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>>94149753
Quite possibly.

>>94150364
Chapter and verse?

>MUH IRA

IRA was a rebellion force, they practiced terrorism, yes, but it would have relatively fucking easy to have just solved the entire problem by letting Ireland be one damn country again (not 'entirely' unreasonable a goal for an irrelevant island ethno-state, even if they could be some regular shitheads.)

Islamic terrorism by contrast is the result of Islam's incompatibility with western philosophy. As a religion with global reach and ambitions there is not eventual close date on Islamic terror (until Islam itself has subdued the entire world as is their fundamental doctrine.) I can't actually think of another religion or power with openly state 'we WILL make the world submit' goals like that.

Buddahism and Hinduism's focus on escaping reincarnation through self-realization tend to turn the mind inwards and and assume that 'eventually you folks will make it too in a few eons.' Christianity actually predicts it will be wiped down to almost nothing before a divine final triumph. Jews, are too stingy to share the benefits of being 'part of the tribes'. Atheists usually don't care except when they can score points to snipe snidely at everyone else.

>>94150303
Literally only today counts? So if no Muslims kill anybody today, it's fine.

Christ you people are retarded.

>be a lefty who thinks you need to deal with wealth and class inequality to ensure the rich and the banks especially don't fuck over the rest of us
>think women already have the same rights as men and feminism is useless, except when it comes to abortions
>somehow gets lumped with all those crazies
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>>94150364
Revelation is nothing more than a prediction of a future that will happen according to the book and that will be cause by man itself by being corrupt.

>>94150364

Definitely not you.

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>>94150356
>The old testament is sacred scripture for christians, but its law Christians see as abolished
Right, so many Christians believe Leviticus is no longer valid.

>>94150374
>invented
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz#Jesus_and_Mo_cartoon

Frankly, if we removed jews and arabs, we would finally reach a global peace

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>>94150370
The idea that the precious minority could be evil short circuits the brain of a lefty in much the same way pointing out to a mother that her kid is a shit short circuits her brain.

Think of how hard it is to tell a mother her son is being a bully. She will invent excuses. "Well he was picked on to. Well they made him angry. Well he didn't have enough to eat that day."

The left is the same way for blacks and muslims.

Just look at this Anon and his "confounding factors":>>94150374

>>94150284
>I suppose black crime isn't a problem because whites commit the most crimes in America right?
What the fuck are you even going on about?

The argument was "there are only Muslim terrorists." But there are non-Muslim terrorists. The end. This is an objective, unarguable fact. What does that shit you said have to do with anything? Are you fucking daft?

>>94150407
For one mainstream christianity has evolved to the point where if something that the bible says goes against loving your equal then people stop practicing, dont fool yourself by knowing the bible.

>>94150396
I feel you mate, I don't fucking understand how the left got so radicalized in the last decade. Same with the right actually, somehow everyone got more and more extreme politically and the divide is worse than ever.

>>94149059
It is obnoxious, but the character is supposed to be a lazy religion obsessed shit, no?

>>94150435
>But there are non-Muslim terrorists

Yes. And what's your point?

One guy from group X committing a crime and ten guys from group Z committing a crime does not mean group X and Z are equal.

What is your point?

>>94150452
Yes. And do you know who profits from that?
:^)

>>94150473
The...jews?

>>94150330
So given a choice which would you choose to live with Muslim terrorism or the I.R.A.? Because you seem to want absolutes (either all or nothing) and that's not going to happen. Equating them as both the same isn't true either. You're to smart for that.

>>94149369
We need to stop Unknown.

>>94150476
Holy shit nigga, what are you doing?
Do you want to get in the prison?

>>94150113
>>94150364
Revelations actually predicts the almost total destruction of the church by a dominating globalist empire until divine intervention steps in.

Really motivates those desert warriors huh? Telling you that all of your human effort and attempt at propagating the faith by the sword is going to get shit on in the end anyway. Probably helps that Jesus told off his disciples for trying to literally protect him with a sword.

Perhaps you just don't grasp the difference between transcendentalist philosophies and materialist ones.

>>94150374
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/muslim-leaders-make-formal-complaint-after-islamophobic-banners-spotted-at-london-pride-a3587351.html

>Muslim leaders make formal complaint over 'Islamophobic' banners at London Pride
>A secularist group of former Muslims
>Banners bearing slogans such as “Allah is gay”, “F*** Islamic homophobia”
>"Pride is full of 'God is gay' and 'Jesus had two fathers' placards as well as those mocking the church and priests and pope, yet hold a sign saying 'Allah is gay' - as we did - and the police converge to attempt to remove them for causing offence."

>>94150452
Social media and hugboxes. People went on the internet formed echo chambers and it reverberated to insanity.

>>94150501
?
>>94150476

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>>94150118
>The IRA isn't shifting the demographics of entire nations and setting trends that will have them as the majority in just decades
>The IRA doesn't have governments and world media bending over backwards to paint them in a positive light

Take the green pill, m8.

While IRA and related groups terrorism have nothing on the scale of current Muslim terrorism, when it was in it's hayday, the US media glorified the IRA as freedom fighters. And before that, Irish immigration permanently changed the demographics of the US.

We even had fucking President Kennedy go to Ireland to cheer on the IRA and co in their fight against the Brits.

But that was decades ago, and while there was plenty of Muslim terrorism back then, it's only gotten worse with every passing decade, while Irish (and Irish Protestant) terrorism has subsided.

>>94149753
The most obvious correlation is that all three things are favored by the comic book industry powerful kate Leth type tumblrbeasts, although I'm not sure if she's big on islam personally,

>>94150469
Eh, close enough. He was originally described as a slacker who hides behind religion as an excuse to not get a job. I actually like the dude, in a, like him to be nowhere near me MM and Owl way.

>>94150501
The pokemon?

>>94150407
>>94150450

ever since protestantism from the XVI century, people are free to read the bible themselves and interpret it any way they want in many ways. You can find christian denominations with radically different beliefs. You can even find christians who keep the sabbath like Jews.
But for the great majority of Christians, the law of the old testament is abolished, and that includes the denominations that existed before the protestant reformation.

"For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.

4 So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code."

and there are many many passages about the old law being abolished.

>>94150472
>One guy from group X committing a crime and ten guys from group Z committing a crime does not mean group X and Z are equal.
I never said they were you FUCKING moron. Holy SHIT.

>What's your point.
My point is that someone said something moronic, I corrected them, and instead of just dealing with it several retards had to chime in with "BUH DA MUZLIMS ARE WORSE THO."

No fucking shit ISIS is worse you retards. That was never the argument. I'm pissed because you goddamn morons who force political shitflinging on /co/ are such babies that you have to change the argument so you don't "lose." You're such petulant, irrational children that you can't just accept you're ever mistaken about anything. It's maddening. Stop changing the conversation as it suits you.

You cunts are worse than evangelists.

>>94150525
Of course, those police know that offending Muslims is a lot more likely to get a mass-murderous response than offending Christians

Personally I assume this knowledge is the driving force behind the governments' overzealous approach to 'Islamaphobia'

>>94150525
>It's okay for islam to bash gays
>but it's not okay for the reverse in a less harmful way
fuck sjws and fuck intersectionality.

>>94150583
Go change your tampon.

>>94150583
You're arguing about religious terrorisim on /co/. I"m not sure what the fuck you were expecting, but it should have been more or less this.

>>94150500
>Because you seem to want absolutes
No, I actually don't.
Absolutes would be saying "only Muslims are terrorists." I think terrorist groups exist in many times, places and scales and they are almost unanimously awful.

>>94150632
You have to resort to shit like that just because you're unable to say "I was wrong about something?" Christ, you're a coward.

>>94150661
No one said there weren't other terrorists in the world you supreme vagina. They were getting on your case because you have to chime in like the Sharia Defense Force and be "well ACTUALLY Islamic terrorists don't commit ALL the terror".

Fuck you.

>>94150349
>>94150365
>>Nothing they do can ever be their fault or their culture's fault.
>Who are you talking about? The jews or the arabs?

The Arabs, of course. The Jews get blamed for everything, even for things they don't have the remotest connection to, even for their own oppression.

This is even more true on the far-left than it is on the far-right.

The kerfuffle at the Chicago Dyke March or the riots over metal detectors at the Temple Mount are two current and very striking examples of that.

>>94150583
I promise not to talk to you or your wife's son ever again.

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>>94149431
Moderate Muslims aren't.

>>94148959

Thank you for reinforcing the point.

>>94150452
it didn't get radicalised. It got stupid. There's nothing "radical" about accepting capitalism and focusing on tiny pseudoissues. As for how it happened, my guess is, unironically, coordinated attempts by the rich to steer the rebelliousness of the population to causes that don't affect them.

>>94150785
I love /leftypol/tards.

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>>94149555
When you attack a side in an argument based on how they look, you are already losing the argument.

>>94150715
>>94149526

Please fuck off.
The IRA literally did/does operate in that fashion. Telling someone they're wrong doesn't mean I like Muslims you pissy little fuckboy.

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>>94150396
>>94150452
>>94150785

We all know that feel.

The rich have taken over the left. And their trust fund kiddy offspring are now running college campuses. As such, they studiously avoid ever talking about genuine class issues, while inventing new protected classes and "microagressions" so they could posture as aggrieved victims despite being nothing but rich bullies.

No wonder they hated and feared Bernie so much that they had to make up pretend "BernieBros" to make him look sexist. (A media smear tactic virtually identical to the one they pulled on GamerGate - pic related.)

The SJWs will be the death of the left.

>>94150525
A similar thing happened in the US not to long ago.

>Gay Jews wave rainbow flags with the star of David on them at the Chicago Dyke March, like they do every year
>This triggers Muslims fundamentalists
>fundies complain
>parade organizers round up all the Jews with flags and expels them.
>meanwhile Muslim marchers have pride flags emblazoned with the symbols of countries that execute people for homosexuality
>that's perfectly ok
But that's not where it ends either
>Jews are understandably outraged
>Parade organizers smear Jews as "Zionist agents"
>Parade organizers hold internet fundraiser to pay for a vacation after their hard work rounding up Jews, raise lots of money from mysterious sources
>Parade organizers get the ace reporter who broke the story on their actions demoted to sales for telling the truth about them, to make sure no one reports on their attacks on Jews ever again
https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/07/10/award-winning-journalist-who-broke-story-of-jewish-women-barred-from-chicago-dyke-march-removed-from-reporting-duties/

>>94149144
Scottish National Liberation Army?
Not saying that Islam isn't unique in its religious zealotry, but people get in suicide vests for nationalistic reasons too.

I miss the ottoman empire :(

>>94151102
Go to bed Erdogan

>>94151130
Erdogan doesn't want the Ottomans back. He's just another tinpot Islamist dictator.

>>94150035
you are either a shill, or a fucking moron.

>1400 girls gangraped repeatedly for decades in a single city.
>every major british city has one of these gangs
>90% of all rapes in Sweden committed by Muslims.
>Mass sexual assaults across Europe to the point nations are holding sex segregated concerts
>Germany, Sweden, and a couple other nations have stopped recording crime statistics because Muslims in Europe make Blacks in America look like Asians when it comes to crime rates.
>you still believe the rape lie, lel

statistics for the last couple decades have proven you wrong, faggot.

>>94151165
>>94151165
You kidding? He wants to be the new Sultan.

>>94150132
The Gospel of Mohammad, I think.

>>94150252
>Muslims are killing in the name of their religion using terrorism.
>Well, that's okay, lots of people use terrorism
>Muslims have caused the most violent terrorism in decades
>lol, well...uh...white people do "terrorism" more often.
>Muslims have killed and injured more people
>lel, body counts aren't important, it's the number right g-goy? W-why...look at all these badly drawn "swastikas"! C-clearly this is the work of white supremacists!!! Each one of these is as bad as another shoa! Islam is a religion of peace!
>Muslims are invading, butchering, and raping innocent people, which no other terrorist group has done
>Muslim terrorists aren't any worse than the IRA! Saying that they are is a lie goy!

>>94149284

Actually, most of the people running off to join terrorist groups are 3rd/4th generation Muslim immigrants.

>>94151252
That wouldn't be the return of the OTTOMAN empire then would it?

>>94149753
would not surprise me anon.

would not surprise me at all.

>>94151453
In all but name.

>>94150476
goyim no!

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>>94149753
>>94151515
Come to think of it, didn't Marvel's sexiest and most promiscuous Muslim get merged with her brother and turn evil not too long ago?

>>94151070
shit, i didn't know they did that to the reporter who broke the story...

>>94151628
i don't know about this, care to detail?

I don't see why we can't just leave their Middle Eastern shithole alone. Don't get me wrong, Islam's a fucking death cult but wasting money over there isn't really worth it.

>>94151648
Yeah, and then they pretend that the Jews control the media.

kek haven't seen autosage for a while

>>94151687
I agree. Let Russia spend their tax rubles on Syria. Let Russia send their young men to die in the Middle East. We've done enough of that lately. Our enemies are fighting each other, why get between them?

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>>94149609
Maybe we should all kiss white ass, it worked pretty well for them

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>>94151628
In the previous image you can see what Monet looked like last year, while she was busy hooking up with a white furry daddy and going to BDSM orgies.

Pic related, top panel is what she looks like now, hiding in sewers and eating teenagers.

>>94151762
Crap. Meant to reply to >>94151667

>>94149822
Depends on what you consider "white terrorism." It probably wouldn't be false to state that more white people commit terrorism than Muslim, but white terrorism is very broad and can be done for a variety of reasons and ideologies (white supremacy, anti-abortion, environmental extremism), while all Muslim terrorists are doing it in the name of Islam

>>94151852
By your standards, is the PFLP a Muslim terrorist organization, or a Marxist terrorist organization?

>>94151734

What's black people's excuse for being below natives? lmao

>>94151852
>>94151880
(Admittedly, the PFLP isn't nearly as powerful as it was in the 70s, while actual Muslim terror organizations like Hamas have long surpassed it.)

>>94150113
Thing is Muslims follow the Quran to a T while Christians and Jews only follow some parts of their respective holy books