Be honest, /co/. Do you have any faith in this actually

Yes.
I can imagine I am watching the justice league cartoon again.

>>94130403
no, I hate Whedon

>>94130423
But they are completely different. Snyder and Goyer would never be able to do.something on the e level as JL and JLA.

>>94130475
I am going to drink a lot of whiskey before I go into the theater.
You cant stop me from reliving my childhood.

Also, is there any place where I can watch JL online?

>>94130457
The 25 mil was to add Whedon's quips

It'd be more entertaining than BvS and Man of Steel for sure.

I just hope they don't ruin Wonder Woman.

>>94130403
Yes, I've enjoyed MoS and BvS and Whedon can't derail most of the movie snce he only did some of Snyder's assigned reshoots.

>>94130403
Faith? Not really. But I still do have a little bit of hope

>>94130403
>insiders

>>94130403
>Insiders say Affleck's leaving DCEU
>Affleck says he's not
>The very next day, insiders say this.

Mh. It's almost like news sites want some easy clicks.

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>>94130403
>Snyder is already a pretty weak director
>Whedon is also a weak director, but they have two VASTLY different styles
>reshoots allegedly two months long at this point
>the sheer level of damage control WB has gone on to say this is a fun movie and not at all like BvS
>Affleck and Miller are the only ones in the cast that actually act, Gadot's Diana was horrible any time she had to be serious
>WB literally having to CGI Cavill's mustache off in said reshoots for possible fucked up looking face CGI
>Affleck's post-rehab face is Kate Mara's wig tier reshoot blatantness, pic related

I really don't see how this couldn't be anything less than another Suicide Squad level mess.

I do look forward to the fake news claims in this thread too.

>a Snyder+Whedon movie
I never had any hope for it in the first place. Just waiting for Aquaman now, since that one sounds good and Wan isn't a hack like the other 2.

>>94130403
Fuck no.

The question is, will it be worse than BvS?

>>94130673
Not even the same site

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No

>>94130403
I liked the trailer so I hope so.

>>94130403

No, and I never did.

>>94130762
Will this be an exclusive or can I play it on my 10 year old laptop too?

>>94130749
That's why I wrote sites, plural.

This is clickbait, come on, CGI-ing away Cavill's moustache? 25 millions on reshoots?

>>94130762
twisted metal black was such a fun game

I had no faith in Wonder Woman and yet that surprised me, so the answer is I have no fucking idea anymore. My biggest concern is it being this clusterfuck between 2 directors, and I dont care for Steppenwolf at all

If they don't bring back Snyder's signature peepee jars, I won't even consider buying a ticket

>>94130838
>a 250 million dollar, CGI heavy movie can't have 25 million in reshoots
I'm amazed that you think this isn't possible. We know for a fact that Whedon has been apart of this since March.

>In an interview with Variety at the LA premiere of Wonder Woman, producer Charles Roven confirmed that Whedon was already involved in the post-production of Justice League before agreeing to take over for Snyder. It looks like Whedon was brought on for photography and direction for a few re-shoots, but other reports suggest he’s been doing some writing for those scenes as well, sharpening some of Snyder’s dialogue.

>“We were saddened by the events that caused Zack Snyder and Deborah Snyder to have to leave and turn the reins over to Joss Whedon,” Roven said. “He was already working with us on some of the scenes for the additional photography that we’re gonna be doing shortly, and it was fortunate that Zack convinced him, and he agreed to step in and finish the movie, help Zack finish his vision, and we’re excited about that.”

>>94130403

Somewhat.

Then again, the last time they tried to advertise a more conventional, quippy superhero movie we got fucking Suicide Squad.

>>94130475
They really arent even that different desu.

>both have beareded aquaman
>both universes featured grrizzled batman who quit due to losing a robin (even if their timelines are different)
>both universes have Flash as a source of comedy (albeit two very different kinds of comedy)
>both universes involve an invasion from alien forces causing the creation of the JL
>both universes have a superman that is much weaker than his comic counter park
>both universes have shown a Superman brainwashed by Darkseid after the death of Lois
>both universes have used Flash time traveling
>both universes have invasions from Darkseid/Apokolipse
>both universes are pushing Batman/WW ship

the only real differences are the cast being a bit smaller, and Cyborg instead of MM. And of course WW being over 100 years old/the entire motivation of the Amazonians.

>>94130676
Please tell me that pic has been altered.

>>94130540
>believing made up rumors from "sources"

KEK

>>94131062
>Variety isn't a real publication now
>everything I disagree with is fake news
Fucking /pol/

>>94130950
>quips

there wasnt a single quip in the trailer you idiot, do you know what the difference between a quip and an actual joke is?

>>94130403
Too much bullshit surrounds JL at this point, I have no faith in it. For now, it looks like Suicide Squad 2.0.

>>94130403
Disney is kicking their shill machine into overdrive again I see.

Closer to JL's release we'll start seeing articles criticizing Aquaman, talking about how problematic it is or how there is a bunch of drama on the set, a bunch of sky is falling articles will say someone told them it was "a mess" (they always use this exact phrase.)
As the movie gets closer to release fhey'll talk about impossible amounts of reshoots and more and more articles will talk about how bad it looks. Then the movie will come out, be good, make around 800 million dollars and they'll start attacking the Captain Marvel.

This happens every time. Disney has a script and they stick to it.

>>94130403
>DCfriends are now dismissing Variety

My god, you guys are pathetic.

>>94130403
JL league is an imminent disaster, wonder woman at least show that dceu can make a popular movie sometimes and the damage will not destroy DCEU just hurt their image even more.

At least this will show to WB for a third time that Snyder is a hack

>>94131116
>>94130950
>>94130676
>It'll be another Suicide Squad!

So another Academy Award Winning film that makes millions of dollars in profit off box office alone and then proceeds to push an assload of merch, causing Disney to once again doubledown on it's already failed bribery/shillbux?

>>94131211
>pathetic
You again?? gtfo, back to comic vine filthy shill

>>94130403

No. After seeing Batman vs Superman I never had any hope. Such a terrible movie.

>>94131053
Straight from the new trailer, senpai

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>>94131164
>shilling for WB by accusing others of being shills
every time

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gosh, wondy and mera's dolls look so cute :3

>>94130403
I'm in it for the Wonder Booty

>>94130403

I put my faith in Blast Hardcheese. Is Blast Hardcheese in this? No? Then fuck it, it has none of my faith.

(Which is a roundabout way of saying I expect nothing from this.)

>>94131451
This is one of the most Reddit posts I've ever seen.

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>>94131116
>>94130950
>>94130676
>>94131247
>another Suicide Squad

MONKEY'S PAW FUGGBOIS

>>94130403
Yeah, DC deliveries on fights and stakes, not air ports and a quip off.
It makes me want to see Superman again.

>>94130403
>believing all the confirmed fake news about DC movies after Faraci got outed
are you guys stupid or something?

>>94131671
/tv/ pls

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Jesus Christ

>>94130403

I've had it quoted to me that shooting costs like, 10k an hour on a union set. So for a slightly longer than average day that's like, 100k a day. Assuming only average days and breaking for weekends that's still a million a week.

Since I doubt they're doing six months of reshoots they need to be doing something fucking expensive and resource heavy in these reshoots. This means either completely redoing some of the VFX or building a large number of heavy and involved props.

>>94131710
Marvel movies have been such a disappointment post Avengers, except Winter Soldier. Age of Quips was the last straw, if i can't see it for free i won't watch it .

>>94131671
>Stakes
>Kill Superman off then bring him back to life 10 minutes later

>>94131756
>Age of Quips was the last straw
>bitches about Civil War
lel, what a fag

>>94131811
>Why doesn't superman stay ded forever?

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>>94130676
>>94131053
>>94131334
He's looking pretty bad post-rehab

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>>94131823
The only thing good in civil war was spidey. Then they ruined him in Homecoming.

>>94131823
i watched it for free, brodie, i still gotta shitpost.

>>94131334
He looks like a different person.

>>94130403
it will probably be like avengers. not sure if that is good or bad.

>>94130403
>Marvel get reshoots
>don' t worry they're just streamlining it! don't put too much thought into it! all movies get reshoots!
>DC movie gets reshoots
>DOOMED PRODUCTION! WE ALWAYS HAVE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPEND ON THEM READILY AVAILABLE!!

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>>94130403
Dunno

For all the shit they got (and deserved) MoS, BvS and SS actually had good trailers that got me excited about shit (bar when Doomsday got in). With JL i feel absolutely nothing, all i see is an uninspired series of action setpieces with a few jokes here and there. I'm curious about the characters, but i don't really care about any of them except arguably Supes, which they'll mostly hide since they still want to act like it's a big surprise that he comes back. Villain looks boring

It might turn out good, but I'm at a loss right now. Only relief is that with Whedon on board the editing and thus how the plot is presented might be better handled than with BvS

>>94132046
DCEU has a horrible past regarding production and editing because they have no idea on what to do. Did the Flash even has a director already?

>>94132046
>Marvel reshoots
>hire a new director and take TWO MONTHS to reshoot
Yes, keep spinning goyim!!

>>94131868
>Then they ruined him in Homecoming
Stop. he was fine

>>94130403
Yes even tho I hate Whedon

>>94132120
>I hope tony senpai would notice me: the character
>good.
nope.

>>94130676
the mustache cgi isnt anything to worry about, they are cgi-ing all of their faces to some degree anyways. the other things, however...

>>94130403
DC's never had a good movie who would be retarded enough to think a SNYDER movie would be the first? Also have you SEEN the trailers and posters? there's no way anyone could ever have thought this would be anything but the worst piece of shit ever put in theaters

this is fucking history years from now you'll be able to tell people that you were there when the worst fucking movie ever made was released

>>94130403
I have faith in it turning out better than it would have originally.

>>94132406
>DC's never had a good movie
>superman 1
>superman 2
>Batman Begins
>the dark knight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy8MUnlT9Oo

>>94132406
>>94132896
Also Superman returns,TDKrises and Wonder Woman were all above most of Marvel crap

>>94132896
Man, you are dumb as fuck for not recognizing obvious bait meant to make you mad.

>>94130403
>Digitally erased Super-Stache.

MY SIDES, OH GOD

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>>94132961
>Wonder Woman above most of Marvel crap
lol

>>94133005
>implying marvel had a IRL animu grill warrior who goes off and becomes hardened after watching the best and worst of mankind.

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>>94133005
Yeah?

>>94133083
>spiderman with psychic powers

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Im beginning to think Kalibak would have been a better choice than Steppenwolf. Which I know its still a half measure/cocktease of Apokolips but at least with him its explains why its not the full force of Darkseids army
>Kalibak wants to prove himself to his surrogate father by invading Earth but fails
>JL movie is Kalibak trying to redeem himself of his first failed invasion

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Yeah, I'm looking forward to Justice League.

I don't take superhero movies deadly serious, so I believe I can enjoy myself with seeing characters I like in an action movie.

It seems like people on /co/ hold summer action movies up to standards reserved only for literal cinematic art standards.

>>94133203
I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. Looking forward to seeing my favorite characters in a move together but if it sucks it's not that big of a deal for me. The comics are what matters.

>>94133203
yeah, well, apply your low standards to other things in life, and then you'll understand why you're a disgrace.

>>94132092
>Did the Flash even has a director already?

>"Flashpoint" right off the bat

Nobody wants to touch it. Raimi, Webb and Vaughn already declined and they're struggling to lock down Zemeckis.

After Wonder Woman a tiny bit. Not great mind you but generic super hero level like MCU.

>>94130403
None at all.

>>94130403
Who knows.

WB has decided to film this movie and SS based entirely on audience reaction to trailer and other movies.

It is the weirdest shit everz

>>94130403
nope.
seriously, its justice league. they've only had one good run in their entire history and that was when nearly every one of the 'staple' members where absent.
right now I'm just hoping the DCCU survives log enough for a Doom Patrol movie that's at least better than Skwad. hire Ron Rerlman as Machine Man and all the fans of the Hellboy movies will go see it. Hell, adapt some of the Morrison run and get points for doing surreal psychedelia better than Doc Strange did

>>94133370
> my summer action schlock flicks are serious business!
Do you even pretend to read what you type?

>>94130403
I want the Justice League. I want that Avengers feeling again. Nothing will get on my way. this movie is going to be great.

>>94131092
We're the shit posters. It's what we do.

>>94131082
but I never said any of that, good job creating a strawman

>>94131211
no, they are dismissing anounymous "sources"

Not really. BVS really put a stink on the DCEU for me. I don't want to pay to watch these movies anymore.

Wonder Woman was good, and I guess I also like Aqua-Man, he could be fun.

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>>94131247
>Academy Award Winning film
Winning an award for makeup doesn't magically make a movie good or enjoyable to watch anon.

And who the fuck cares how much money it made apart from /tv/ console-war shitposters? It's a fucking shame SS did so well financially, because it was trash, lower than the lowest of cape movies, but WB only looks for profit so they'll likely turn out more shit in the same vein.

I don't care about some billion dollar company making or losing money, I care about good capeshit movies.

>>94130613
We're just gonna let this asshat get away with this?

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>All these salty Marvelcucks

>>94134324
Are you seriously happy this is what the DCEU is going to become?

>>94134324
Kek. The size of that ACADEMY AWARD WINNING. Is this a shop?

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>>94133370
Movies aren't serious. They're entertainment.

Do you get that?.

Your family, income, safety, access to food and water is what's important.

A movie is not important.

You're worse than a disgrace if you take movies seriously. You're a fucking joke, dude. I seriously just laughed at your existence.

>>94134767
To the majority of /co/, the entertainment they consume and jerk off to is the most important thing in their life after their basics needs have been covered.

>>94134149
>It's a fucking shame SS did so well financially

Not really because that means people liked it.

And that's not even counting the merchandise.

Just because YOU didn't like it and Disney tanked its ratings with the critics doesn't mean the average joe didn't like it.

>>94134860
It's great to have a hobby, but I think some on /co/ get a little overzealous

MCU fanboy here
I have hope that DC will make a home run with this movie. Unless that trailer misrepresents the final movie in the worst ways.
I think you'll have a winner this time DCbros

I'm pretty excited, I hope Justice League is just a big fun action packed spectacle with lots of cool moments. Cause that's really what I expect of the DC movies

>>94134969
>Unless that trailer misrepresents the final movie in the worst ways.

This has been far too common with the DCEU tho. EVERY.SINGLE.MOVIE.

>>94135028
I don't think so
BvS trailer made me expect exactly what i got in BvS

>>94131728
WHERE IS THE COLOR?

Jesus, looks so drab and lifeless

>>94130502
Every cape movie has called for copious boozery

Considering the last good comic movie was Dredd, I doubt any DC or Marvel movie will be good and anyone who says otherwise is a normalfag.

>>94130403
I have way more fucking fate in whedon than any other of dc shitty directors (other than Nolan of course)

>>94135308
>hurr durr dred
fucking normie

>>94135409
>Dredd
>Normie
Also the fact that you use the word "normie" proves you are a normalfag.

>>94131211
They signed a petition to take down Rotten Tomatoes by the thousands after BvS, this shouldn't surprise you.

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>>94131728
The way how Aquaman holds his trident

>>94130403
Whedon, for all his flaws, is a more competent director than Zack Snyder

>>94136487
Isn't Rotten Tomatoes owned by Disney.

Don't jump down my throat. It's an honest question

>>94130403
will probably end up with a budget of around 500 to 600 million depending how much they spend on ads. BvS iirc spent 160 million for marketing.

>>94140536
There's no better advertisement than making a gud fuqqen movie

>>94130403
If anything this just gives me more faith since hopefully it means the reshoots are VERY extensive. Meaning Whedon might just be able to salvage the movie from Snyder's mess.

>>94130605
>some of Snyder's assigned reshoots
It's honestly pretty adorable how delusional you Snyderfags are.

>>94139725
It's owned by Warner Bros, actually.

>>94131211
>DCfriends
Hey man don't be like that. Some of us DCbros have hated the DCEU so far minus Wonder Woman as well. I'm incredibly happy Whedon seems to be remaking LARGE swaths of the movie.

>>94130403
I will always have faith in the director of Watchmen and 300.

No matter how many times he breaks my heart.

>>94140650
Snyder never made a movie that was not divisive criticwise did he?

>>94140536
>budget of around 500 to 600 million
>JL bombs critically
>makes nowhere near a profit
>Snyder will never be allowed near another DC property again
Well now I actively hope it's bad.

>>94140679
Dawn of the Dead and 300 were fairly rated. Watchmen was iffy because it had its up and downs. Starting with Sucker Punch, nobody really wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt since that was his movie all the way through and not an adaptation. He's no god and he's not the worst director ever. He excels at the technical parts of filmmaking and struggles connecting audiences to his characters without a really good script.

>>94140691
>Snyder will never be allowed near another DC property again
That's the worst part, his wife can make sure he will be always leading dceu no matter what,they propably already gave justice league2 contract to him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F6KuKU8j6M

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>>94130403
Cons:
The Costumes are unfortunate, Flash and Uncanny Cyborg particularly.
The acting ability of the main cast is highly suspect, Gadot was carried, Mamoa is a dudebro level actor, Affleck wishes he had Clooney's talent and he's clearly a mess.
Like the Wonder Woman movie, there's been no sign of a compelling villain, historically a DC thing.
The bad taste left from the last DC teamup movie
Pros:
Snyder can put together some solid mythical battle moments, and Whedon can create team moments that connect with audiences. A combo of their strengths MIGHT be impressive.
While Whedon doesn't bring out Oscar-bait performances from actors, his loose, engaging style pleases people in the seats.
People have serious member-berries for the Superfriends and the Justice League cartoons.
The Wonder Woman movie has generated positive buzz for the DCEU at last.

At the end of the day, I just do not know.

>>94132046
DC has failed every single time tho.

>>94140896
it didn't tho

>>94131247
Oh God someone tell me this post was ironic

>>94134324
>not even a shop
AHAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAH
dcucks in absolute suicide countdown

>>94134927
>Disney tanked its ratings with critics
Oh cool, thanks for that proof.

You realize that a ton of money doesn't mean it was a good movie, right? Sure, it means a bunch of people saw it, and that's great for SS.

But if your opinion of SS is that high because "the average Joe liked it" then you must think Iron Man 3 is one of the best movies of all time.

>>94132235
>I haven't seen the movie

>>94140982
Also Spider-Man 3.

>>94134927
Did YOU like it?
Did anyone but edgy teenagers who wants to fuck Harley and Joker like it?

Lots of people saw it. Yet to meet anyone ril who enjoyed it.

>>94134431
>>94140959
it's fake you idiots

>>94141017
>Did anyone but edgy teenagers who wants to fuck Harley
I didn't like the movie, but you certainly don't have to be an edgy teen to be attracted to Margot

>>94131728
It looks like they arrived somewhere at 7AM on a Sunday morning, right after all the teenagers went home.

>>94141017
>don't want to fuck Harley
>>>/lgbt/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utxb-kzvFZU

>>94130502
Literally anywhere. That shit's like Jurassic Park, you can find torrents of it on bus seats.

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>>94130403
>according to our sources

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>Budget: $250+ million

>>94130762
If DC movies look like a "video game" then Marvel movies look like fanfilms. No- Cheap porno parodies

>>94141323
>Snyderfags already defending this
Do you know how to talk about something without shifting the conversation to Marvel?

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>>94141323
Sure.

>>94141256
More than a PS2 game, that looks literally drawn by hand.

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>>94141408
>>94141256
is not that bad by capeshit standards, still better than homecoming

>>94141535
>is not that bad by capeshit standards
No because the standard for capeshit is rendering the CGI with the Unreal Engine 3 on a PS3.

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>Wonder Woman was "a mess"
>Matt Reeves refused to direct
>Gal Gadot wasn't paid in the sum of a GDP of a small European country like her male counterparts
>Ben Affleck wanting out shit.
Let's be honest here, We all know better that it isn't Disney doing the disinfo but clickbaiting journalist trying to create news. DC movies, specifically Batman attracts the most eyes and has the most exciting production to keep up to date with. Ben Affleck & Matt Reeves can't promote their current movies without the press pestering them for scoops regarding The Batman movie. What better way to generate news than to create bullshit followed by another article clarifying if said bullshit was true or not.

The best part of this is that they'll never get called out for it because of plausible copouts such as "Well my sources must've seen a different version before the reshoots" or "I've must've seen only the post processed version"

>>94141535
>Not that bad by capeshit standards
Delusion

>>94141535
i saw that game at E3!

>>94130676
The reshoots are only 2 months long because Cavill and Ezra are busy filming other movies right now so WB has to work around their schedules. Affleck looking like he just got out of rehab is the only real downside I'm seeing.

>>94141625
>Affleck looking like he just got out of rehab is the only real downside I'm seeing.
whats wrong with him getting help?

>>94141535
>still better than homecoming
Considering how much money it costed in production (apparently less than Spider-Maguire 2 or 3), it's not that surprising. Even then, both of these movies have no excuse when ANTS used even less and did a lot of amazing CGI shots.

>>94132094
Disney has brought in 2 new directors on 2 Star Wars movies to do reshoots as extensive or more than this. They literally fired their directors after 80% of the movie was filmed.

>>94141651
He looks terrible. Look at the footage of him from last years comic con where he looked healthy and fit. In this new footage he looks pale, bloated and puffy. It's going to stand out really bad. Cavill's moustache could look bad too, but who knows with that.

>>94141691
>Disney has brought in 2 new directors on 2 Star Wars movies to do reshoots as extensive or more than this. They literally fired their directors after 80% of the movie was filmed.

Wait, what?
I mean, was that on the level of Ant-Man (both parties went kinda cranky, but both agreed to part their own way) or Trankt4stic?

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>>94141611

>>94141691
Thats nice. It also has nothing to do with Marvel.

>>94141722
i wonder if that's the reason they gave them those googles

>>94134927
Good thing all the Transformers and Despicable Me movies do well because they truly deserve it and their box office is an indication of only the highest quality of writing.

>>94141755
Phil Lord and Chris Miller got fired from the Han Solo movie after filming some 80% of the movie because Disney didn't like them improvising lines instead of following the screenplay religiously. They brought in Ron Howard to do massive reshoots and finish the movie. That's much worse than what's going on with this movie.

On a different note, a new director was brought in to do reshoots on Rogue One while Disney sidelined Gareth Edwards.

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>>94130403
Oh geez, what went wrong in The House of Mouse this week? Because That's usually the only time you see these "____'s set is a mess!" scoops. Not too long they get laughed and suddenly there's "Ben Affleck is quitting" gossip. Meanwhile Disney actually fires directors and enough reshoots to be a movie in itself.

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>>94141765
>>94141535
daily reminder that war for the planet of the apes was only 150 millions

>>94141788
The goggles have been there since last year. All of the new footage is apparently just minimal dialogue and 'connective tissue.'

>>94141808
Yes, but who gives a shit about Star Wars spinoffs.

>Cyborg
Nope. Idris Elaba as John Stewart would've been vastly better.

>>94141767
Disney owns Marvel.

Here's another one then. Joss Whedon was brought in in the middle of filming Thor 2 to rewrite scenes the day of filming because the movie was so shit. He's the reason why it was even watchable.

>>94130403
They mean 25 billion. It needs a trillion just to break even.

>>94141831
the ones who made Rogue One a billion at the Box Office? Han Solo is cherished.

>>94130540
Reminder that zack quips were already a thing.

>>94130403
A shred, OP, a shred. I didn't before, but after Wonder Woman turned out not-awful, it renewed a bit of my faith that the DCEU could be something. On the other hand, it's Snyder with Whedon taking over for him partway through, and Snyder is awful, and Whedon is incredibly hit-or-miss.

>>94141837
Elba*

>>94141860
Yeah well, plenty of retards in this planet.
Star Wars could die for all I care.

>>94130762
>>94141256
Are these supposed to look "bad"? Nice try, shills.

>>94141844
Who taught you how to count faggot? By these calculations, (meme accountant btw) Justice League would need 5 centimillion grams of anti-matter converted into gold pressed latinum opening weekend domestic within the first 2.4 milliseconds to break even. Stick a fork in this franchise! DC is done!

>>94141765
>when Fant4stic has better CGI than Ragnarok

>>94141256
Well, still looks better than fantastic 4.

>>94141014
Spider-Man 3 was unironically better than Homecomimg and the vast majority of the MCU.

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>>94141808
>>94141838
>seriously trying to argue that failures on star wars has anything to do with marvel studios
This is the equivalent of saying the DCEU is a failure because King Arthur was a failure.

Can Snydershills be any sadder?

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>>94141929

>>94141869
Snyder action scenes with Whedon dialogue might not be that bad.

>>94141949
Truth isn't bait mouseketeer.

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>>94141929
/tv/, go back to bed and fap to your jailbait, please.

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>>94141912
>calls people retarded faggots
>didn't calculated for marketing

>>94141949
>>94141967
You have to have been alive when Spider-Man 3 came out to comment.

>>94141997
What the fuck are you trying to say?
Are you really going with the "muh old movies were better" shit?
Guess what, faggot? Spiderman 1 and 2 are one of the best superheroic movies of all time, no matter which company, but if you're so desperate to defend the shitfest that was Spiderman 3, with everything that happened and that we know about, and how Sony blatantly interfered with the movie (same as Skwad and BvS, and hey, ironically these movies shared the same fate as SM3) over "muh company wars", then you not only prove how much of a fucking casual you are, but how up your ass are over muh normies reee etc.

>>94142114
I don't know how Spider-Man 3 being better than Homecoming is company wars, it's simply a better movie. It's a bad movie, but so is Homecoming. I'll take Topher Venom over pajeet Flash and mulatto MJ any day of the week.

>>94142160
Oh, I know, saying "muh mouseketeers ree" or "shill ree" over any thi-
>I'll take Topher Venom over pajeet Flash and mulatto MJ any day of the week.

Wew lad, how about not taking either?
That's right, you want it to be YOUR way, everyone else is wrong.

You aren't acting like the person Spider-Maguire wants you to be.

>>94141691
>>94141802
It's better to say Kathleen Kennedy. Disney let's people like her, Feige, and Lasseter do their thing, which usually means all of them (and more) will be on every production ensuring it meets whatever style they want.

Kennedy wanted Lord and Miller to take things seriously. But, of course, they did things a little tongue in cheek and she got mad. Doesn't help main actor fucking sucks and literally only has a job because Spielberg found him in a bar mitzvah video.

>>94142322
I'm no star wars fag so I haven't really been keeping up with the Han Solo drama, but Ehrenreich was really good in Hail Ceasar.

I don't know why he'd suddenly need acting lessons?

>>94142635
you'd think it's the lead actress who would need the lessons.

it's Emilia Clarke

>>94142681
Jesus Christ. Has no one learned anything from Terminator?

>>94130403
That batman shit didn't stick and now they are going for this. Smear campaign as usual /co/, we've been through this already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnREl3UKG0Y

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>>94130762
Is this going to be like when you made threads about stills from the WW trailer? Because look how that turned out

>>94131211
Just like THR two days ago right?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ben-afflecks-batman-future-doubt-as-warner-bros-plots-franchise-future-1023296

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ben-affleck-denies-hes-exiting-as-batman-at-comic-con-1023603

>>94130403
I'm still pissed about them making Aquaman into Khal Drogo.

Couldn't they have cut his hair and dyed it blond?

>>94130403
>Wonder Woman is a mess

Seriously are you people still doing this? Do you never learn?

>>94142794
Affleck also said multiple times he was still going to direct the movie, then he dropped out right afterwards. It's pretty clear that he's completely over being Batman.

>>94142954
Not like this. He never was this clear, especially after Live by Night bombed. Think it for a second, what else does he have going on? But yeah let's trust those anonymous sources, Wonder Woman is going to bomb for sure

>>94143065
WB might just decide to let him go. They gave Matt Reeves full control over Batman and Affleck is a mess right now. He said he'll stick around as long as WB wants him, which is a sign that WB doesn't want him anymore.

>>94142953
Star Wars was also a messy production and look how that turned out.

A good director and a charismatic actor (Chris Pine) can do a lot to carry a film.

>>94143608
>WB might just decide to let him go
Sure thing. Hold on to that buddy

>>94144126
Mother fucker he's 45 and looks like shit and has an alcohol problem.

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>>94144173
Yeah, the last year and a half or so has not been good to Ben at all. He's one arrest away from stealing the JUST crown from Shia LaBeouf.

>>94130403
Nope. It's another "Earth is being invaded by beings from another world, and no one else OTHER than a bunch of super powered strangers can save all of humanity." story.
Which. We already saw in Avengers. Christ, what's the fucking point?

>>94144173
Yeah because it's superhard to dress up a stunt in the Batsuit so they will recast their most popular character. That makes a lot of sense and I'll cling to that if I were you

>>94144396

You sound like you're in deep denial.

So you want fat, bloated alcoholic Ben playing Bruce, then someone who's fit playing Batman in the same movie? No actor is above Batman, recasting him isn't going to make Batman less popular.

>>94144438
>No actor is above Batman, recasting him isn't going to make Batman less popular.

I think people will give more of a shit if you recasted one of Batman's villains than if you did Batman.

>>94144438
>No actor is above Batman, recasting him isn't going to make Batman less popular.

Strongly agree, but I don't believe the fake news about Affleck wanting to quit or WB wanting to remove him.

>>94130676

Didn't WonderWoman have a bunch of reshoots too?

>>94144438
They won't do it for these two reasons
a) Affleck is a great actor
b) You're wrong about recasting. A Spider-Man movie is going to fall behind a Wonder Woman one as we speak, and it's because the recasts and the reboots
c) Just look at the coverage a non-sensical unsourced, anonymous rumour about reshoots "confirmed" by magical insiders who magically know how much the reshoots cost is getting it's hard to know the full budget of a movie for real, literally only the producers know if the reshoots costed 25 million or 25 grand. That would be PR nightmare and I don't even think it's a smear campaign anymore, after being in these threads in /co/ and reading yotube comments I just think the MCU fanbase is so awful that they are going to push whatever bullshit they can even if it doesn't make sense, so these guys see easy clicks in there and just make shit up

>>94130502
Snyder and Goyer can and will stop you

And last I checked it was on Netflix streaming

>>94144516
Literally any movie you liked or hated gets reshoots. Shitposters just found a way to make it into a big deal.

>>94130403
Reshoots happen in every big budget movie, and it usually improves it.

>>94144516
Doctor Strange had over 25% of the movie reshooted by a different director. All big movies have reshoots these days, the JL dragged for a month because the actors were involved in other projects but the percentage of the movie affected is confirmed minimal. They didn't even bother to shave Cavill's mustache

>>94131382

They actually do. Although I wish Wondie was just a little darker to be more in line with Gal's skin tone.
I kind of hate the Superman one though. Covering his face with goofy heat vision things was a bad choice. Maybe they're removable.

>>94131382
What happened to Momoa's eyebrow anyway?

>>94144516
Literally every hundred million dollar movie has reshoots. All of them.

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I have resigned myself to the fact that every triple-A movie now is going to have major, studio-mandated reshoots after principal photography wraps. And if the director doesn't want to cooperate, the studio will just fire him a la Disney and the guys who were making Han Solo.

>>94144627
He was attacked at a bar years ago, glass bottle straight to the face, it's not just his eyebrow.

>>94141896
Yes those genuinely look like a shitty videogsame, are you blind?

>>94144528
>A Spider-Man movie is going to fall behind a Wonder Woman one as we speak, and it's because the recasts and the reboots

Regardless of what /co/ likes to meme, Spider-Man isn't anywhere near as popular as Batman. Batman is on his own level, everyone else is below that. As long as you make a good movie with Batman in it, people are going to flock to see it regardless of which actor is behind the cowl. He's like James Bond at this point, the actor doesn't really mean shit, it's the character people go see. No one is going to see these movies to see Ben Affleck.

>threads in /co/ and reading yotube comments I just think the MCU fanbase is so awful

While the MCU fanbase is mind bogglingly faggoty with the company wars, it goes both ways. I like movies if they're good, regardless of what company makes them. I lean more towards a DC fan since it's what I grew up with, but the optics of their universe is fucking abysmal. Wonder Woman band-aided it for now, but if Justice League is just as derided as all of Snyder's other movies, I wouldn't count on Affleck sticking around. He's been embarrassed enough and probably regrets taking on the role. I hope it turns out good, but a new director with the complete opposite style of the first director coming in with 3 months until release with a fresh from rehab Affleck and a mustache Cavill isn't exactly easing my mind.

>>94130403
> Oh no WW is a mess
> Oh no JL is a mess
> Oh no Batman is a mess
> Oh no Ben wants to leave
> Oh no JL will cost 25M$ more

Tell me that the House of Ideas does not pay the media to fuck DCEU...

>>94144727
You grabbed a blurry still from one frame of a compressed youtube video as your argument.

>>94144754

The fact that the Affleck rumor came literally the day before the JL panel is a little suspicious.

>>94144764
and by the sound of it the Reshoots are already ending.

>>94144695
Are there more scars?

>>94144764
It was debunked in the panel too, and now we have to pretend it never happened and that people on /co/ weren't sure that these fake news came from Jesus himself or something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnREl3UKG0Y

>>94144764
and it was on the same day that Marvel's answer to X-Men got literally "AHAHAHAHA'ed" at.

>>94144805
Apperantly he had to get extensive plastic surgery to repair that side of his face.

If he didn't he would probably look like Tommy Flanagan, just without any of the awesome personality, and you know, talent.

>>94130457
I don't see why, he did good with Avengers 1 and 2.

>>94131044
Fug.

>>94144853
>Just without any of the awesome personality, and you know, talent.
He sucked in both Sons and Peaky Blinders.

>>94144694
Big budget movies have had reshoots after principal photography for ages. It's just that there weren't clickbait sites exploiting those non-news before.

>>94144819
You have to take anything an actor says with a grain of salt. They aren't going to say anything that will make them or the studio look bad. It's why Affleck keeps sucking WB's dick whenever people ask him about Batman, even though he might leave. He's just being professional.

>>94144916
Right...

>>94144877
Them's internet fightin words son...

>>94144928
How old are you that you're this naive? Remember when Affleck kept saying he was going to direct Batman when the rumors came that he might drop out - and then he dropped out a few weeks later?

Sorry, Momoa has him beat in spades
https://twitter.com/ComicBookDebate/status/888852134451703809
https://streamable.com/ryvzx

>>94130403
If they are sinking that much money into fixing synders shit then yes I do.

>>94144916
>You have to take anything an actor says with a grain of salt.
What I need to take with a grain of salt is clickbait anonymous rumours especially after a whole year of fake news, especially when they got flat out denied by the actual people involved

>>94144955
> 1 in 10 rumors is right
GUYS THIS ONE IS ALSO TRUE

>>94144968
The only fake news that's come out is that Wonder Woman was a mess. Everything else has come true.

>>94144982
Yeah James Wan and Matt Reeves sure left the DCEU too, just like Cudrup isn't Flash' dad

>>94144992
Matt Reeves did technically leave the project for negotiating purposes. It could have backfired on him.

>>94145002
How you know that? Are you Reeves by any change?

>>94145002
And Margot Robbie left too right? You know because all that bullshit about her husband not being cool with Leto and all. I mean she has been confirmed in like 3 upcoming movies but then she's totes leaving so it wasn't fake news at all

Come on, at this point believing this shit is just MCU fanboy wishful thinking

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>>94144955
I remembered Black Panther having the same problem, only difference was no one made a big shit about it because no one gives a fuck about Black Panther. You couldn't be a Black director with a critical hit without there being rumors and scoops about you directing a BP movie. One minute it was the Selma director, or wait, it was the Straight out of Compton director. If Ryan Coogler didn't accept, we'd be reading articles about Moonlight or Get Out directors being spotlighted for the director chair.

>>94145002
Says who? Screen Rant? Were they in the room?

>>94145026
He admitted it in an interview. He wanted full control over the movie.

>>94145002
Or, get this, he didn't leave at all and it was another fake rumour

>>94144545
>>94144632
This.
/co just generally doesn't understand stuff works outside of comics and cartoon.(Hell, even that's questionable.)

>>94145034
The only movie Jordan Peele has ever directed in his life is Get Out, but other than that, I get what you're saying.

>>94145068
Sure provide me a link for that since the ones that reported he leaving - no surprise but there are the same that did the bs for Ben leaving - as no mention a direct quote of Reeves saying he left the project

>>94145098
It was during one of his interviews while promoting Planet of the Apes. I literally watched the video of him say this.

>>94145151
where is it then?

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>>94145002
>>94144982
>>94144916
>>94144819
New rule is that when there is "trouble" with DC assume that the mouse is the one with the problems. They always seemed to be timed just when there is negative buzz at Disney's expense.
>Justice League having costly reshoots = Disney having to practically reshoot Star Wars
>Ben Affleck quiting or "wanting out" = RDJ wanting to retire/covering the bad press of Steve Whitmire for muppets
>DC movie can't keep a director = Disney firing their's.

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>>94145151
I sure looked it up but nothing mate

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>>94145151
Look up your browser history and post it. C'mon, we're waiting here. Otherwise, shut the hell up.

>>94145151
>>94145158
>>94145182
>>94145188
Post the god damn proof already, I want to go to bed soon.

>>94145277
Go watch his Planet of the Apes interviews then, I don't fucking remember which one it was in. He gets asked about Batman in every one of them, so at least you'll be entertained.

>>94145297
Go fuck yourself mate for claiming things that didn't happen and then don't provide proo

You just another Marvel Drone trying to put down DCEU

>>94145277
Go to bed anon, I'm sure it was something about negotiations that some clickbait guy took out of context. The fact remains, Reeves didn't leave the DCEU and the rumours were fake news, like 95% of the ones getting threads here including this one

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>>94145297
or you can do as >>94145188 suggested since the burden of proof is on you.

>>94145309
But I hate Marvel and Batman is my favorite character.

Reeves wanted full control and WB didn't want to give it to him, so he left. Then WB realized the optics of losing yet another director was bad for them, so they caved and told him he had last say on all things Batman. I don't know why you're so defensive about it, it's not like it's a slanderous story to defame DC. It's pretty standard negotiating tactics.

>>94130403
Not really, but this the only cape shit Im excited for and will pay to watch

>>94145329
How can a person leave if the said person never joined?

>>94130403
>Do you have any faith in this actually turning out good?
seriously? snyder images and whedon world building? gonna be awesome

>>94131164
>Disney
aka internal sources

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>>94145329
>no video interview
>no interview article
>just heresay
Oh will you just own up to having fuck all of knowing what the hell you're talking about?

>Reeves wanted full control and WB didn't want to give it to him, so he left. Then WB realized the optics of losing yet another director was bad for them, so they caved and told him he had last say on all things Batman.
You and the faggot that started this rumor has not the slightest grasp of what goes on in Tinsel Town. You're not some Hollywood accountant bigshot because you look up Box Office Mojo and Rotten Tomatoes. For all the fuck anyone knows, this negotiation could've transpired through cellphone conversation. What was more likely that it was reported there were "talks" and seeing that Batman movies generate clicks, and the news was running dry, so journos took it upon themselves to create fabrications to capitalize on the superhero movie craze.

>I don't know why you're so defensive about it, it's not like it's a slanderous story to defame DC.
Because this is the umpteenth time there has been this effort to create some retarded buzz. Last time it was Wonder Woman getting 300k while Male actors like Henry Cavil and Affleck were getting paid in gold pressed latium. Frankly, I'm just tired of seeing articles shit posted here every time a cameraman farts on the set when most of the time it's literally Nothing.
>Tonight on Screenrant: "Smells like trouble on the set on the latest DC movie!"

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>DC IS OVER #384738
Oh no, I kind of liked those guys :(

I actually do, I'm not negative in the slightest. I just hope Ben bounces back.

>>94131334
My sister watched the trailer with me. She had an alcoholic friend and she immediately asked me if Ben was having drinking problems, then showed me pics of the guy pre and post rehab.
I really just want Ben to get better at this point.

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>>94145898
>wonder woman is better than avengers and gotg
Wow that's brave of you to admit

>>94131334
stubble and good lighting make a world of difference. Unfortunately wheadon has no clue on how to light and shoot a scene. it's fucking embarrassing.

>>94131382
Barry's is the cutest... as it should be

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>>94130762
>Ps2game.png

>>94145959
what happend to his jaw?

>>94130403
>Do you have any faith in this actually turning out good?
Yes

>>94145481
Avengers 1 and 2 prove that Whedon has no fucking idea about making movies.
JL is going to be a clusterfuck.

>>94130762
Why does this look as if someone photoshopped the batmobile in front of a handrawn anime shot?

>>94130403
Cyborg vfx looks like shit, they could fix that maybe, flash looks overacted and gay, I'm ok with all the others, movie seems too dark

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>>94144982
Ben Affleck quits for the fifth time this year! How does he keep coming back?!

>>94146811
Ben Affleck is the Jay-Z of comic book movies.

>>94130403
Any movie that requires extensive reshoots is bound to be shit. Reshoots mean that they couldn't do what they wanted and had to compromise somewhere on something that is probably pretty important.

>>94146919
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/07/05/thor-ragnarok-reshoots-atlanta/
Ragnarok is going under reshoots right now, yet I heard nobody making it an enormous deal.

>>94146955
Marvel has a good track record. I only know of SS having had reshoots and that movie wasn't good.

although I think the reshoots are just character stuff that they asked Whedon to add or refine since he's better at that than Snyder.

>>94147001
Nah, real answer is no one gives a fuck about Thor.

>>94133005
Wonder Woman is the Flash?

>>94146955
Ragnarok actually finished its mere 3 week reshoots the other day.

JL has spent over 25 million and is still shooting 2 months after starting.


theres a reason people are making a big deal about it

>>94147147
It's not been shooting for two consecutive months. If you read the article, they had to juggle with Ezra, Henry and Jason's schedules. They've been filming other stuff.

>>94133083
I don't even understand why it's necessary for Spider-Man to be CG in this shot.

I've lost my last tiny sliver of hope for this when they replaced Snyder with Whedon. The DCEU died with Suicide Squad, they're just allowing Whedon to piss on its grave for good measure.

>>94147147
>JL has spent over 25 million
>according to our insider sources

>>94146955
Because their history with reshoots isn't too bad, CW had some, added the woman that confronted Tony and cut out Panther and Widow talking apparently. Basically fixing some of the flow and redundancy. Whereas SS went through reshoots and either it was already a shit script to begin with or they made it worse, more importantly is whether it was done in reaction to either BvS's reviews, or the reaction to the supposedly more "fun" trailer.

So circling back tor Ragnarok, the reaction to both trailers now has been enormously positive. And I don't think they're concerned with any reaction to GotG 2 or Spider-Man so the reshoots are likely just touching up narrative flow or some such like CW. Also with such enormous casts, some actors can't make the schedules as they also make other movies and stuff.

>>94147236
And yet Wonder Woman was their best movie.

>>94130403
It probably not as bad as every one will.make it out to be but in the end just more generic forgettable capeshit like the rest of the movies.

>>94130403
I'm more excited for the MLP movie then for any capeshit thing.

>>94147253

I haven't seen it.

>>94147265
There's a MLP movie coming out? Will it outgross JL?

>>94130403
It'll be good in its own way, but of course /co/ will sperg out against it for being "not muh".

>>94147272
Yes. Hopefully it'll revive theatrical 2D animation. But probably nobody will give a shit cause it's not Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks.

It's too late. we got a fucking Civil War movie before Justice League. No matter what JL does right, people will see it as an avengers ripoff. Whedon being slapped on it doesn't help with that perception.

>>94147241
>Because their history with reshoots isn't too bad, CW had some
According to Feige, all of their movies have reshoots. I remember Dan Harmon being brought to add quips for Strange.
>some actors can't make the schedules
Which is happening with these rumored reshoots, the actors' schedules are busy.

>>94146955
>ragnarok is going through reshoots just as JL
Smeat campaign confirmed

>>94147253
No, that would be BvS. Wonder Woman just had the best reddit tomatoes score.

>>94147354
>he likes BvS over MoS and WW
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

The Steppenwolf actor has stated, that all of his scene happened in front of a green screen. He was never wearing any armor, so that's CGI as well. And on top of that he was never even in the same room with the hero actors.

So no, I don't have any hopes for that movie. I'm looking forward to the Flash spinoff though, although I would prefer if the actor was blonde.

>>94147389
in the few brief scenes you can see the actor's face it looks completely cgi too, since they likely had to scale it up to fit the ~8 foot tall body. at least he's a pretty good actor i guess

>>94147371
MoS was good but BvS was better. Wonder Woman wasn't bad but it just doesn't hold up to the others. BvS had every aspect of it done perfectly.

>>94147423
>perfectly
Not only is your opinion bad, you go even further into madness by using unreasonable hyperbole. You sir, are a scoundrel.

>>94130502
solarmovie

>>94141236
Fuck, now I regret not writing links to torrents on school bus seats.

>>94130838
>This is clickbait, come on, CGI-ing away Cavill's moustache? 25 millions on reshoots?

I like how Paramount said "well, we could shave Henry's moustache and then CGI it back in for closeups and use a convincing pasteon for long shots, but hey, you're a rival studio so we want to see you fail at the box office."

Real spirit of camaraderie there.

>>94147560
Not their fault WB wanted extensive reshoots. They shouldn't have to paste a caterpillar on Cavill's upper lip to accommodate a rival studio's post-production.