DC has the best vill-

>>94101933
-ains.
>Steppenwolf voiced by Ciaran Hinds

Steppenwolf will be Kino. Zack knows how to make a good villain. Excluding BvS because the studio pushed too much shit to develop in one movie.

Example: Zod, Ozymandias

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Zod is Beyond OP CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSjBNf4x3DE

>>94101933
Hay now. Not sure how Steppenwolf will be in the movie but as of now his voice is amazing.

>>94102103
Lex was great imo and even Doomsday managed to be given some genuine pathos by being the living embodiment of Clark's mistake of killing Zod.

>>94102360
>Clark should've just let these people die
BvS apologists truly are the worst

>>94102103
Zod fucking sucks and Snyder didn't write Watchmen.

>literally who Suicide Squad villain
>Steppenwhosit
>David Thewlis' goofy-ass mustache in big dumb hack n slash video game boss armor

>>94103557
Oh Suicide Squad! Thats where the first guy is from, oh man that is shitty.

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>>94102103
>Ozymandias

Are you fucking retarded? The movie version massively fucked him up.

Zod wasn't much better, there's a part in MoS where he literally monologues his thoughts to Clark for no reason than to awkwardly tell the audience his motivation.

>>94101933
>pretending that any company has the objectively better villains

its a mixed bag like always, anon

>>94103926
All capeshit villains suck. There has never been a single good one.

>>94101933
-ains and it's not even a contest

>>94103957

Jeff Bridges was fine
Ledger was really good
Kurt Russell was pretty good
Michael Keaton was pretty good
David Thewlis WOULD have been if they hadn't made him into a CGI video game boss


So naw. Generally good actors make good villains. If they're conceptually dogshit and written badly then no amount of good acting will save it (e.g. Tom Hardy is good, Bane sucks)

>>94104100
Nope. All shit.

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>DC villains
Evil monsters who fuck shit up
>Marvel villains
SNARKY SNARK QUIPS SWEETIE XD

>>94103957
>>94104112
I'm sure you are not the least bit biased.

>>94104160
So, which one should I go for actually scary, intimidating villains?

>>94104160
>Evil monsters who fuck shit up . . . and they all look the same

>>94102103
There was nothing to Zod. I'm sick of /co/ pushing this meme.

>>94104112
Can you even imagine being this gay, /co/?

>>94104296
Zod was just annoying. I couldn't take him seriously.

>>94104252
i'd ask you not to be racist but I remember where we are

>>94104298
Sorry for not having low standards.

>>94104296
A soldier whose entire purpose in life was to protect his people, and despite his best efforts, loses his entire race. That's something.

>>94102103
Holy shit what. Ozy was the one character in that film he fucked up.

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>>94103957
>all capeshit villains suck
t.underage faggot who thinks the MCU and the DCEU comprise all superhero movies

>>94103957
Are you counting the villains from the sixties Batman show (or specifically the movie)? Are you counting Eartha Kitt as Catwoman? Are you counting the Rami villains like Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin or Alfred Molina as Doc Ock? I hope you like some villains.

>>94102103
Zod was barely a character and everything Snyder brought to Ozymandias was terrible.

I don't understand this weird faith you guys have in the guy. He's literally never made a single good movie. Even his DotD, his best film, is pretty sub-par.

>>94104328
There's nothing racist about complaining about execs being downright uncreative with their antagonists.

>>94104380
>Joker
>ever good
>Jack Nicholson
>good outside of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Lol

>>94102103
He made Ozymandias worse than the comics, and Zod is shit, hell, even the actor thought that the movie was full fo shit. .

>>94104352
That is just Malekith.

Flat as fuck.

>>94104347
>*being a retard with a five inch thick skull
FTFY

>>94104352

Strong in concept is different from strong in execution. Zod COULD have been a tragic, MGS-esque soldier. Instead he was executed as IWILLFINDHIMIWILLFINDHIM *dumbfuck DBZ CGI fight*

>>94104441
>says a faggot who thinks "LE CHAOS I'M SO EDGY" is a good villain

>>94101933
Steppenwolf actually turned out pretty cool.

>>94104160
Hammer is no different than BvS Luthor.

Hell, put them in the same room with DCEU Joker, and both Leto Joker and Hammer would think that Luthor is a weirdo.

>>94104197
Marvel.

Stane, Toomes, and Ego are genuinely intimidating, good villains. Loki I wouldn't call scary, but he IS a good bad guy whenever he's around, with a great deal more characterization and presence than most. Bucky was fantastic in his villainous role in WS, nigga was an unstoppable monster operator.

People get so wrapped up in trying to nitpick the MCU that they forget all the good things about it.

>>94104470
Uh-
That's a different anon.
Anyway, Joker in TDK was fine.
It's every Batman writer and thirteen year old Batfan that latched onto the whole 'chaos' garbage.

>>94104347
Do you like anything about superhero stuff?

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>>94103957
>he doesn't remember the villains from the Batman 66 movie
>he doesn't remember Raimi's Goblin and Doc Ock (in4 not MUH)
>he doesn't remember Burton's Joker and Penguin (inb4 not MUH)
>he doesn't remember the big guy
>he doesn't remember Deacon Frost
>he doesn't think The Vulture was singlehandedly what redeemed the garbage that was Homecoming
I'm sure you are just going to reply with "lol they all suck fag" because that's your argument but you could come up with more creative bait

>>94104524
How quickly people forget DARREN CROSS

>>94104524
>Ego
>intimidating
I don't understand how.
Stane was more charming than intimidating. Loki is way too pathetic to take seriously as a villain.. Bucky as a villain was terrible and dull.
I give you Vulture though.

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>>94101933
>Ares
>Doomsday
>Lex
>Joker
>Incubus
>Enchantress
These were all shit. Zod was the only good villain.

>>94104467
I mean, me fucking drops weighted training armor and everything. I can see why the weebs on /co/ would love it, but I thought it was laughable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvEZkKzm-Lw

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>>94104416
Shit on Joker as much as you want but Jack Nicholson is based

>>94104470
Who's motivation was just causing chaos?

Don't say TDK Joker, he had a method and motivation to his madness, and despite his LIES in the movie to the contrary, he knows what he is doing.

>>94104416
>He hasn't seen Reds, The Last Detail, Chinatown or Five Easy Pieces.

>>94104579
>Stane was more charming than intimidating.

He was both. Dat baritone. He had this obsessive, meticulous energy to him.

>Loki is way too pathetic to take seriously as a villain.

He was still a great villain. His plan was enjoyable and he himself was enjoyable to watch.

>Bucky as a villain was terrible and dull.

Man, what? He was a silent murderbot, but he pulled it off with the appropriate gravitas. The drama and human side of him came from the conflict with Steve.

>>94104633
>method and motivation
Fucking shit up for lulz is not a good motivation.

>>94104416
Nicholson is good in literally every movie he's been in. Even that pile of shit the Bucket List.

Steppenwoldf was really a shitty choice for a villain in the first JL outing. I get that their building up to Darkseid, but he just looks too similar to Ares that I'm afraid he's going to confuse normies.

Brainiac would've been a perfect villain for JLs first big screen debut.

>>94102103
Zod is great and so was Lex fuck all brainlets.

>>94104765
Pissjars on the house.

>>94104697
>He was both.
Never really felt it. There's nothing intimidating about him at all.
>His plan was enjoyable and he himself was enjoyable to watch.
Let's agree to disagree again. I wanted to strangle that idiot after five minutes of his whining.
>He was a silent murderbot
And that's the problem. This kind of villain sucks. Emotional gravitas may make him a good character but not an intimidating villain.

>>94104799
That actually sounds like something Lex would do desu.

Company war shit aside, why the fuck did they ruin Suicide Squad as a team? It's like doing Bendis Guardians as your movie adaptation.

>>94104732
>Brainiac would've been a perfect villain for JLs first big screen debut.
This. They should cast Jeffrey Combs as Brainiac again if they ever think of using him in the DCEU.

> DC has the best Villains

Which basically means DC has the Joker.

>>94104799
Like I said, fuck brainlets.

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Steppenwolf is just half-assing the Apokolips invasion. We should have gotten Starro or Vandal Savage instead.

>>94104765
Lex doesnt even had a reason or motivation to make Doomsday considering that he had no means to control him, and wasnt even monitoring the fight that he spent 2 years of his life building up. The writting on the movie was garbage.

Fuck Steppenwolf. I just want to see Batman dommed by Granny Goodness.

>>94104873
Lex was fucking awful, and you're a subhuman for thinking otherwise.

>>94104252
as opposed to evil business men in suits?

>>94104714
And again, that wasn't his motivation.

A) He was trying to show Batman that Batman's own presence was indicative of something greater changing in the world, (honestly this may be a leap in my logic) and
B) that even everyday normal people could descend into barbarism if given the appropriate opportunity.

A is arguable, B is not. I don't think at any point he was "doing it for the lulz".

They wanted an Apokolips invasion but they learnt not to blow their load early so they are saving Darkseid for later. Maybe for a New Gods movie

>>94104905
He was losing it completely. Superman's victories struck his ego deep.

Brainlets won't get it it's ok.

>>94104948
Yes, that is exactly doing it for the lulz.

>>94104809
I'd say he was intimidating even without the drama.

A villain can be silent and still scary.

>>94101933
>Moviefaggotry

>>94104925
why?
Because he wasn't making landmass by nuking the west coast?

>>94104942
You're not even trying, are you?

>>94104925
S-Shut up you b-brainlet
It was KINO and you just didn't get it

>>94101933
>Steppenwolf
>Setting up Darkseid without Orion
Joy.

>>94104956
But why even do the Apokolips invasion to begin with if its not going to have Darkseid? People were sick of Thanos' constant cockteasing

>>94101933
I see this is the designated /tv/ thread

>>94104960
Victories?
Where?

>>94104524
>Loki I wouldn't call scary, but he IS a good bad guy whenever he's around
LMAO Loki is a joke, a manchild without a good motivation. He's even worse than Ultron

>>94104892
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARRO YOU GUYS

>>94104892
IT
SHOULD
HAVE
BEEN
S T A R R O

>>94102103
Lex, Faora, Batman, KGBeast, even evil Superman. Every single villain that Snyder does is great.

>>94104524
Honestly, the only live-action villain I'd call truly frightening is Legion's Shadow King.
The rest are not all that scary.

>>94101933
Who the fuck is on the left

>>94104960
>He was losing it completely.

He wasnt monitoring the fight of Supes vs Batman. He had no idea on the result of his plan. He "lose it" randomly, for the sake of the plot. You are the shill, and doesnt even know about the movie.

>>94104799
Good job proving his point more.

>>94104819

Suicide Squad should have had a much smaller threat. A world ending one would be fine for a third film though.

>>94104892
>it's Starro
>he controls Superman
>REEEE EVIL SUPERMAN FIRE SNYDER

>>94105001
this but unironically

>>94105595

I'm a simple man who is easy to please with these films. Superman not being evil is enough for me not to hate this before I see it.

justice League trailer
> Lol another CGI fest. Man CGI is the worst

>Infinity War trailer
Omg! So epic! CGI rocks!

Never got this 'MCU don't know how to make villains compared to DCEU!'

They've had a few good ones, a bunch of them are meh, but all we've seen in DCEU so far has been meh to unwillingly funny (Zod) or outright character assassination that was insufferable to watch (Lex).

>>94105710
reddit is getting ripped to shreds right now for dissecting both the JL and Ready Player One trailers and bitching about CGI while spooging over Thor. People are finally sick of their biased shit.

>>94101933
I refuse to believe any one anywhere EVER said that unironically

>>94105710
People can forgive shitty CGI in MCU because they enjoy the characters and movies.

>>94104586
Dr.Poison and Luddendorf were fun though

>>94105898
Keep telling yourself that.

>>94105898
this

we can look past EARLY UNFINISHED CGI for a marvel movie OUT LATE NEXT YEAR because it's obviously going to be great based on a DECADE of good to great movies from the same people

>>94105898
t. shill

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>>94104197
Fox

>>94105971
What? They do. You can shill and cry all you want. Doesn't change the fact that people like these movies and see them as having more value than simply their visuals, as opposed to the majority of DECU.

>>94106038
And yet they fucked Apocalypse up
ONE. FUCKING. JOB. SHIT.
I've been waiting for decades ever since I saw how terrifying Apocalypse was in X-Men TAS and that faggot was what I got? I can't even blame the actor because Isaac can be intimidating when the script allows him (case in point Ex Machina)

>>94105979
Why are you yelling?

>>94105971
>>94105997
I feel bad for you people. Stuck with such shitty movies and in an abusive relationship with DCEU, you can't even fathom the idea of other capefags genuinely enjoying themselves with MCU.

>>94105290
>KGBeast
>an actual villain that mattered

Cmooooon

>>94106198
This but i have to say i liked DC's JL trailer. As long as they don't choke, JL looks like it will be breddy gud too
Still

>>94106198
I feel bad for you. Having such dedicated loyalty to a billion dollar company that cares nothing about you. I like movies from various companies - yes, it is indeed possible.

>>94106273
Excuse me, this is an MCU only board. You're not allowed to have any positive opinions about the DCEU. You have been issued your only warning. Do it again and face punishment.

>>94106323
I admit I enjoyed WW, but that ain't gonna save this shit.

>>94106364
You haven't even seen the movie yet.

>>94106356
but ;-;

>>94106356
Man fuck off. Both sides are equally bad at shitposting. But Snyder faggots have been insufferable on this board ever since MOS.

>>94106404
You're fucking me right? It isn't Snyderfags that started Man of Murder shitposting or make daily threads about how much they hate him and his movies.

>>94106387
No but I know what they have to work with.

>>94106356
>Excuse me, this is an MCU only board. You're not allowed to have any positive opinions about the DCEU
don't I WISH but no you "people" are still allowed

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>>94106444
That wasn't shitposting, but qualified criticism.

>>94106404
Relax.
He's talking to me and he's joking
jesus

>>94105810
Ooh link?

I don't even know what's shitposting and what's people's genuine opinions anymore.

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>>94104160

>snyder's acolytes absolutely devastated by quipkino

>>94106687
tfw evangeline lily is the only elf not to play a marvel villain
is it because her role is made up? kek
Red Skull
Ronan
Hela

>>94106947
She got Wasp though.

>>94106993
Yeah thats what i mean
she would've played a villain if that trend continued
But i'm entertaining the idea that the trend is real and that its only because her character was made up just for the movie

>>94106599
Th-thanks...

>>94106947
Am I being really stupid when I ask when was Orlando Bloom a Marvel villain?

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>>94105810
>Going to reddit
Good to hear about MCUcks getting ass blasted though.

>>94106947

If 2008 Hulk counts, Liv Tyler breaks the trend.

>>94107264
No. he hasn't been in a marvel movie yet
I'm just saying (i shoud have been more specific) of the actors who have played elves that they HAVE cast, she's the only one ho isn't a villain
or at least notable elves lol

>>94107298
ah yes you are right totally forgot

>>94106599
He should have listened to his own warning. Joking at the expense of the Mouse and his minions is haram in these parts and I wouldn't be surprised if anon is already dead by now.

>>94104160
>itt: DC fags continue to ignore Suicide Squad's existence

aren't you mad Joker is an edgy emo fag who pimps out Harley?

>>94102103
>Zack knows how to make a good villain
>Snyderfags in charge of being up to date
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/justice_league/joss-whedons-justice-league-reshoots-are-far-more-significant-than-initially-reported-a152681.
Zack is dead. Joss Whedon is running the show now.
Bow down over to your new quippy overlords.

>>94107926
Well i'm a mousefag and i thought the JL trailer was breddy gud. y we fight bros ;-;
can't we just enjoy whatever franchises we want and the cross fingers for universe crossover 10 years down the road once they are both even more successful?
THEN have a friendly marvel vs dc then? ;-;;;

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>>94104416
>your individual taste
>capable of convincing people over critical and public consensus without copious and plausible argumentation

>>94108233
>Well i'm a mousefag
Falseflag.

MCUfans wouldn't call themselves "mousefags". Fuck off,

>>94108368
i'm calling myself a mouesfag ironically you dumb fuck
suddenly i'm not an MCU fanboy because i said this one thing in jest
you spergy cunts are the worst

>>94108402
0.01 cents have been deposited into your account.

>>94108368
DC fanboys can't figure out the workings of irony or anyone not shitting their pants in rage over console wars.

>>94101933
>fucking THREE Destoyer variants with horns

Christ and I thought Marvel was bankrupt for having "shady guy in suit" be the villain of every movie. At least the suits didn't cost millions of dollars and the blood of six Korean animators a second.

You missed Doomsday OP.

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>>94108757
>Destoyer
What, the shitty villain from one of the shittiest MCU movies? I agree the DCEU villains look like shit but damn I doubt even Marvel's execs remember that thing.

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>>94108895

DC's execs clearly do though

>>94104160
you joke, but hammer was pretty good in the long run

>>94104732
Brainiac is too good to waste in the first movie.

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>>94108895
>>94110727
In retrospect, kinda spacey and cool, almost street level compared to phase 3 stuff

>>94102360
>Lex was great
Couldnt agree more

>>94112925
Lex was the worst part of the movie.

>>94104524
i completely forgot Stane even existed

>>94112672
Better than Whiplash for sure.

>>94113039
I can't for the life of me understand how anyone above the age of 13 could find Lex intimidating, good or anything but embarrassing to watch.

My previous roomate thought the same though, that Lex was the best part and really great, but he was also the sort of person who watched and sang along to cringe Joker fan song videos on youtube and liked to think of himself as the biggest Batman aficionado in the world, despite only having watched the movies and played Arkham.

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>>94104892

>>94105036
Superman killed his hot assistant.

Incubus's design & powers were awesome the issue is mainly just that the cgi failed more then not.
His reveal in the subway was great.

I agree Wolf & Ares are too similar.
They should have done 1 of 3 things.
A.) Stuck with the goat skull for Ares.
B.) Not done this half assed makeshift scrap metal outfit, went full on slick glossy armor exactly like the comics.
C.) Put a lot more red on Wolf like in the comics.

>>94101933
Will the main villain be an eight-foot tall CGI piece of crap who has a scene where he destroys military aircraft and throws a bunch of shit at the hero? Nam-Ek, Doomsday, Incubus and Ares all did it.

>>94101933
You should throw Nam-Ek in there too. He's also a really tall bulky CGI monster with black armor and a creepy helmet.

>>94104100
those are all awful compared to real movies though

>>94113412
>cringe

>>94114908
You're not on /tv/ anymore.

>>94114983
Embarrassing then. Are you happy?

>>94104100
> if they hadn't made him into a CGI video game boss
>>94104467
>*dumbfuck DBZ CGI fight*
What the fuck is wrong with you people? You seriously are asking for superhero movies without battles or fight scenes?
Thanks like asking for a car without wheels.

>>94104423
> That is just Malekith.
No he wanted to destroy all of existence. Zod had a valid motive.

>>94104892
Starro would have been great. On paper, he looks goofy but the concept is terrifying and visually on film it would be awesome.

>>94105020
Having Darkseid reduced to one film is doing the whole concept of these connected movies and the character itself a massive disservice.

>>94113412
Lex was fucking embarrassing to watch. I have no idea how the 'ring ding ding' at the end could have been greenlit.

>>94103464
are you serious?? Best villain in a long long time

>>94115146
BVS was a bizarre experience.

>>94104347
>not having low standards
>on /co/
>on 4chan

Anon...

>>94102103
>I've only ever watched the movies and never actually read any comics

>>94114908
Ledger won an Oscar and was widely cited as the best part of a movie that got great reviews and made over a billion dollars. By what metric is he awful other than the thoughts of a few /tv/ contrarians?

>>94102083
FPBP

>>94105898
This is true

>>94105971
right back at you

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>>94102262

zach snyder action sequences make me orgasm.

the rest of the film becomes temporarily irrelevant when i watch these..... these things are comic book fights come to life.

marvel can't do action this good.

>>94115840
t. neck snapper

>>94115932

still better than ultron

>>94115980
>Ultron can't be neck snapped
Supeman BTFO

>>94102103

Zack doesn't know how to make mac n cheese

>>94115840
The fight was pretty cool, but it didn't have much to back it up. You can make anything in your computer but need to have story and characters to give it context.

>>94116401
>implying he has the capacity to understand the connection between action, characters, and story

>>94116401

the story was pretty clear though. not the best told, but it was very clear.

zod is genetically disposed to preserve krypton by any means necessary. since krypton is destroyed, tries to save the remaining kryptonian race by reconstructing earth. humans will die in the process.

superman ruins that plan, so zod has nothing to live for anymore... except for personal vengeance against superman.

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>>94117991

yeah we know because Zod literally monologued this to us at the end

>>94118520
Well I mean, what do you expect? Zod to just leave and mope about on his own?

It's pretty obvious he'll fight, even without the monologue.

>>94119870
It's also a pretty textbook comic book monologue

>>94116401

>"didn't have much to back it up"
>last of his kind literally killed by is own kind because he choose to side with humans
Now that monologue that Zod literally said at the beginning of the video is as "comic booky" as it can get. Maybe I'm not getting what you are saying but can you give me an example of "need to have story and characters to give it context"? really want to know what your definition of context is.

>>94102262
zod is best villain and best character in all recent capeshit