Defenders Trailer 2: Not So Different You and I Edition

why arent theavengers and spiderman helping?

It looks kinda bad.

Remember when Netflix Marvel was good?

>>94056004
and now Marvel has officially won SDCC

Looks okay, hope this is the end of the Hand shit

>>94056202
Will they show the IW trailer or just stick to Ragnarok and BP?

Matt looks like a jackass being the only guy with a costume. FOR FUCK SAKE, GIVE DANNY A RAG

>>94056137
Even though I think I like capeshit films a little more than others I've never been interested in any capeshit TV series
Are there any good ones?

>>94056336
they already said they were showing Infinity War

they have like 2 hours booked they're gonna be showing tons of stuff

This is getting really weird with them ignoring Spider Man existing.

>>94056004
Looks pretty good. I'm mainly looking forward to the character interactions more than anything,

Gonna watch all the previews seasons again to help jog my memory.

>>94056503
Gentlemen, how do we throw rape allegations to Perlmutter?

>>94056004
Is that Ripley? Did wayland-yutani send her back in time as an evil super powered monster?

Will Stick and Colleen and Patsy be kill?

>>94056004
When was the last time something used that line and it was actually accurate?

Look good. Hopefully Iron Fist improves. So far it looks like Daredevil could kick his ass easily. Actually judging by Jessica getting knocked out by that random bitch, Daredevil could probaly beat her as well.

>>94056656
He is already out. He was using Marvel employees to harass some fuck at his country club. Disney doesn't like that shit.

>>94056111
it's during Ultron

>>94056656
Like Im not expecting nor want Peter to meet these people (well except maybe Daredevil), but when you have legions of ninjas running around NY and no one seems to address the Spider in the room, it gets kind of noticeable

>>94056683
Yes, no and maybe if they want more trauma for Jessica.

>>94056435
>Netflix
Daredevil season 1 and most of season 2 is great
Jessica Jones is goodish for the most part
Luke Cage is probably the best but it meanders a bit
Iron Fist is trash through and through

>TV
Agents of Shield is hit or miss a lot. When it's good it's pretty good, but when it's bad it's bad.
Agent Carter is decent but forgettable

>>94056683
Stick's eyes get cut out

>>94056756

They're bringing in misty for IF season 2 for daughters of dragon action so she definitely survives

>Matt is the only one with a costume
Why are they refusing to give Danny his green and yellow pajamas, dammit?

>>94056748
He's in queens, not Manhattan.

>>94056801

Scott Buck

>>94056748
>Be a friendly, neighborhood Spider-Man in Queens
>Hear there are ninjas and shit in Hell's Kitchen, a mind-controlling guy in the Village, a super-strong gangster in Harlem, more ninjas in midtown

yeah I'd stick with Queens.

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>>94056783
Oh no!
How will he see now?

>>94056801
Didn't the whole kung lao thing was close to him? They did say iron fist is getting a season 2

>>94056844
well anon I guess we'll have to stick it out to find out

>>94056830
>>94056836
Fair point, I guess Peter will move in the sequel or something. Guy cant web swing in a suburb forever

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>>94056683
Claire probably to make room for Luke and Jessica.

>>94056742
Thank god! I was tired being stuck in the past for so long, let's move this forward a bit.

>>94056137

Season 1 of Daredevil feels like so long ago.

>/co/ will literally Defend this

How anyone can actually enjoy Jessica Jones as a character and not want to throw her off a building is beyond me.

>>94056830
He's also not Spider-Man yet if this takes place during the Ultron mess.

>>94057054
People like "sassy" characters. At least it gives her a unique personality amongst the cast.

>>94057054
because I like alcohol and she is super durable and therefore we'd be best friends until I am fridged.

>>94057054
there are characters in the show who throw her off buildings for me

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>>94056989

>>94057054
She's literally the most unlikable person in her own show. I felt more sympathy towards Kilgrave being tortured by his own parents.

>>94056782
are any series from DC good?
i've seen some hilariously bad supergirl webms but that's it

>>94057271
>are any series from DC good?
nope

>>94057256
I agree. She's so insufferably negative. She's angst because she refuses to not be. There is nothing admirable about her, she is not a character for women or anyone to look up to. She's not a hero, and listening to her shit on Daredevil for being the only worth while character on that show (unless Frank is in it) will be intoleraable. I just want to see her shit kicked in throughly.

Looks better than previous trailers

But still looks bad.

>>94057256
>I felt more sympathy towards Kilgrave being tortured by his own parents.
Wait, I thought he was making that up? Jessica Jones meandered about so long I started to mentally check out while watching it.

>>94056656
It's fiege that keeps MCU and tv seperate

>>94057588
He had a degenerative brain disease so his parents experimented on him to cure him

He thought it was torture because it was so painful

>>94057766
Oh, I remember now. Thanks.

Honestly, I prefer Purple Man's backstory from the comics. I appreciate them trying to do something new, but I think they tried making Killgrave too sympathetic.

Ya know...this is the same shit we get with every Netflix show. A colorless grey and orange NYC, always at night, and constantly punching guys. It's at the point that the only way they can save the Netflix shows is if they escaped NYC, and I know that's not happening. There's no wow worthy cinematography, and it's all shot so flat. I see the Netflix shows losing viewers after this show.

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Why?

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A yellow shirt. A yellow fucking shirt.

Is it really roo much?

>>94058095
FUCKING THIS
HOLY SHIT I'M PISSED
I CAN UNDERSTAND NOT HAVING A TIARA BECAUSE NETFLIX LIVES IN A PERPETUAL "NO FUN ALLOWED"
BUT GODDAMN
IT'S A YELLOW FUCKING SHIRT

>>94058095
>>94058129
Apparently, yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FalQ7_c38QI

>>94058095
The Netflix showrunners have already all said they think comic books are stupid and are trying to ground these shows in 'reality.'

>>94058204
>Dudes shrug off bullets, smash cars, and fight ninjas
>Want it grounded in reality

Pick one, preferably the fun one.

>>94058204
>>94058255
It's more unrealistic to see a black man wear a yellow shirt, apparently.

god this looks boring as fuck

>>94058273
IIRC he did wear one in a short cameo in JJ, but that was no better than the Jewel scene.

>>94056004
I didn't think it was possible to make a show with Daredevil, Iron Fist and Luke Cage look so fucking boring.

>>94058945

This. When it was first announced I thought it was going to be a fucking epic street level adult tv show.

Now it's just a darker Agents of Shield.

>>94058945
I hope to god that this show ends up being more entertaining than it looks in the trailers.

>>94058945
Wrong.

>>94056782
jessica jones is trash through and through.

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Where's Frank?

>>94059683
Off somewhere else Franking some pedos.

>>94059919
Would Frank Frank you for 2d loli?

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What if Defendor joined the Defenders?

>>94060696
he would be defending right?

I wonder if Matt is going to get pissed at how sloppy everyone else is at fighting, especially iron fist.

>>94061677
Iron Fist is only there to pleasure the men.

>>94057271
If you like campy shows go for Flash and Legends of Tomorrow.

>>94057271
Arrow S1,S2,S5 are good
Flash S1 too

>>94056004
I can't wait to watch the adventures of Daredevil and 3 people in casual clothes!!!!

THIS IS SO AWESOME MARVEL IM LITERALLY CUMMING IN MY SEAT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

am I the only one who thinks the weird DD ninja shit is cool

>>94058095
I was hoping Daredevil would get Potter to make him a bullet proof yellow shirt. It's so jarring having DD in full red costume next to people wearing clothes. And Iron Fist's costume is his shirt open. Booooo.

>>94061946
What's jarring is having the "SUPERHEROES" wearing normal clothes.
If it weren't for Daredevil being there, they could have named this shit "The A-Team: New Generation"

>>94061889
Was cool, was. Back when Nobu was in season one, and what a Black Sky was had some mystery behind it and wasn't overexposed to death, and he actually wore the Hand outfit, it was pretty cool. Then Season 2 happened and pretty much fucked everything in that department. Shittier ninja weapons, shittier costumes, poor plotting, clumsy lore, and a general sense of aimlessness to the entire sub plot ruined the Hand hype I had from season 1.

>>94061889
I like it, even in S2
Plus it means more Stick

2 of them have super strength, one is damn near invulnerable, one can see with sounds.

Why is it so hard for them to believe that Iron Fist can harness chi through his hand?

Best thing is its coming out in a few weeks. I was expecting it in winter for some reason.

>>94062493
How did Jessica get her powers? Cuz the other two are essentially due to science gimmick. Luke was made in a lab and Matt had like magic goop put in his eyes.

>>94056503
Spider-Man (and the Avengers) exist in the MCU.

>>94062667
Car accident involving the goop that gave Matt his powers if I remember right.

They will probably tie the company in to Luke as well.

>>94062732
So really... Its all sciencey except for good ol iron fist. Watch the company be Rand related somehow.

So apparently to solve the fact that Finn Jones is not a master marial artist they are doing closeups of him in fights to help clean it up.
Maybe they could ya know PUT A FUCKING MASK ON HIM AND GIVE HIM A STUNTDOUBLE

WHAT
A
FUCKING
CONCEPT

>>94057054
The butt.

>>94062493
To be fair the iron fist was super OP in the show whenever he used it. Like im pretty sure with it activated danny is the teams heaviest hitter.

>>94062493
because they have no reason to believe in mystic shit
from their perspective, he probably just has another science-given power and is delusional

>>94057900
>they tried making Killgrave too sympathetic
Then they failed to do even that considering how forced the switch from lolsoevil to "waah feel bad for him" felt.
I do agree that a former spy slowly losing his sense of morality due to the weight of his powers would've been more interesting than a generic spoiled brat, though.

>>94062864
This. It's so easy.

JJ is just a gender flipped noir detective stereotype. they're always angsty, short tempered, chain smoking alcoholics with no friends.

>>94058945
They probably just don't want to be a Sony and show entire plot in a single trailer.

>>94059683
The same place where's Bullseye.

>>94062864
Two man in masks would be too confusing for audience.

>>94061833
This sounds about right.
I enjoyed those seasons much more than Marvel's TV stuff.(Agents of SHIELD/Agent Carter but kind of suck pretty bad.)

Daredevil S1 and S2 is still much better though.

>>94057271

Arrow was good until it wasn't.
Season 1 and parts of season 2 for Flash.

>>94059943

No.
But he'd keep tabs on you.
And you won't know that he's doing it.

>>94056004
>I'm not looking for Superfriends
OOOOH DC BTFO!

How many hours until the Marvel Studios panel? Lost interest in Netflix Marvel after DD S2.

>>94057271
unless you like camp you won't like em. They embrace their comic roots more, but they embrace it shoddily.

>>94056742
Wait is that confirmed? What's the evidence for that, I'm interested.

>>94056111
Different universe, anon

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i still cant help but feel like this is the lamest line up for a netflix team up, they work ok indivdiualy
they should have worked up to this instead

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>Hated Jessica Jones and Iron Fist
>Luke Cage was boring
>Only care about Daredevil.
>Realize I need to sit through the fucking Defenders and watch three fucksticks I don't care about just to get more Daredevil.

>>94063792
Three of those are horror types, I wouldn't trust Netflix Marvel with horror.

>>94056440
When did they say they were showing it?

>>94056111
They made timeskip in Spider-man Homecoming to explain it

>>94063805
Literally me, except I liked Luke Cage because of Stokes.

>>94063810
You really think they'd show IW stuff at D23 but not at Comic Con?

>>94063805
Eh, I'd rate it like this.

Daredevil S1 > Daredevil S2 > Agents of Shield S2-4 > Iron Fist > Jessica Jones > Agents of Shield S1 > Luke Cage.

They really should've brought Bullseye in instead of Punisher, ruined what could've been a superior to S1.

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WHEN THE FUCK IS DAREDEVIL GETTING A REAL COSTUME
FUCK IM SO TIRED OF THAT TACTICOOL WINE COLORED SHIT
EVEN AFLECK GOT IT RIGHT

>>94063884
I hate Affleck's BDSM "spank me daddy" Singer leather shit.

>>94063897
and yet he still resembles Daredevil more than Netflix

>>94057256
The only character on that show who even remotely deserved any sympathy is the old black cop who, I think, was played by the actor from The Wire. Everyone else was unbearable.
and if they all got Fisk car door treatment I'd be saying that JJ is a 10/10 show.

>>94063862

True.
But on the flip side, we got the best goddamn live action Punisher yet. So good that he basically turned half of Daredevil's season 2 into a pilot for the Punisher series.

>>94063925
I think Thomas Jane could've been better had the script not been shit.

>>94063925
It's not good if you realize how fucking fucked Frank Miller's Daredevil adaptation is.

But oh well, let the people who never picked a comic in their life post le Frank memes, reddit loves it!

>>94063925
>So good that he basically turned half of Daredevil's season 2 into a pilot for the Punisher series.
Also, I really wish Frank didn't have a self-contained arc because geniuses who handled this mess couldn't into storytelling to save their life. Ending to Frank's arc is miserable, actor who plays corrupt army men ended up being a corrupt army man, who woulda thunk!

>>94063941

They still could have used Bullseye later to the same effect by...You know, not killing Elektra in season two and saving it for season 3.
That's all they had to due to save that storyline for later and you know it.

>>94063990
Just have Bullseye kill Karen, 2 problems solved

>>94063990
Yeah, that's my point. Retards who put Punisher in Daredevil show are retarded, glad you can see it.

>>94063974
>actor who plays corrupt army men ended up being a corrupt army man, who woulda thunk!

Wait, what else did he play a corrupt army man in?
Is this a "Sean Bean dies in everything" or "Reginald Vel Johnson is always a cop" scenario?

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>guy on the left will be Triton in Inhumans
>guy on the right will never be Iron Fist

We live in the worst possible universe.

>>94064021

I mean, I can see that happening.
>Kingpin finds out that Karen was the one who killed his bottom bitch, not Ulrich.
>Not in a position where he can be seen out and about murdering people. Can't kill her himself.
>Hires one of the world's best assassins to do it just in case the devil of Hell's Kitchen gets involved. He wants this job complete without any shred of doubt.
>Enter Bullseye.

>>94064021
It wouldn't undo the damage to Frank Miller's adaptation. Oh well, it's not like Elektra was adapted any good anyway.

>>94064024
He did in the Flash.

>>94064084

What? A comic book to live action ((Anything)) isn't a perfect word for word adaptation?
Stop the presses.

>>94056004
Daredevil - DD
Jessica Jones - JJ
But suddenly Luke Cage and Iron Fist? Should be Luke Lage and Fearsome Fist (who's real name is Ranny Rand).

>>94064126
No, the problem isn't that she isn't word for word Elektra, the problem is that she's quippy and "le Black Sky" meme. The problem is that they never fucking explained why Stick betrayed the Chaste to protect her and why Chaste accepted him back. THEY NEVER EXPLAINED ANYTHING ABOUT HER AND KILLED HER WHILE TALKING HOW IMPORTANT SHE IS.

On the other hand, season 1 adaptation of Matt is adaptation done right to a T. Charlie Cox is Matt Murdock.

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>>94064022
i guess Frank Miller was retarded too

>>94064207
ONE
N
E

issue

Mostly written by Roger McCkenzie, a very average writer.

But I guess people who don't read comics don't take into account these facts.

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>>94064235
>ONE ISSUE
do you want me to post all the DD/Frank crossovers?

Can't wait for moe Luke and Jessica sex. It was the best part of Jessica's show.

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>>94064290
For what purpose, though? Are you trying to move goalpost from "Punisher who never appeared during Elektra saga in Frank Miller's run fucking ruined Daredevil S2" to "have Punisher and DD ever crossed over"?

And fuck off with that garbage you posted, Daredevil was largely out of character and Ennis fucking knows it, he just hates capeshit like your fag ass who never picked up a comic. He essentially called DD a cuck.

>>94064084
That's fucking stupid, if I wanted a 1-to-1 rehash of a comic plot, I'd just read the fucking comic.

Why do you prefer your media to be endlessly rehashed, readapted and recycled garbage? Does a new plot hurt your autistic soul that much?

>>94063921
I think the only character I liked in JJ was that cokehead who she help get off the drugs and became an all around nice guy. I also like his statement of "Why is it that being helpful in this world earns you punishment?"

I would say Rachel too, but that fucking line of "Last night was fun, but we didn't ask for your opinion" is such a demeaning line.

>>94064360
The problem that it's not 1-to-1 rehash is not the point.

The problem is that everyone's criticism towards S2 of Daredevil is towards Elektra. Elektra saga of Frank Miller's run wasn't just some whimper like ending of S2 of Daredevil, it was a canon blast in comic book world when it was ongoing. And they botched it because they spent too much time on a character unrelated to that plot.

>>94062493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnGtPCAHsak

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>>94064339
>DD
>not king cuck

>>94063805
same

>>94064463
Not really, Elektra died and DD been with numerous women since then.

Black Widow is his booty call any day.

>>94056004
Silly Matt, Luke's hugs are only for Danny

It's funny how people still shit on JJ when Elektra is around.

>>94064805

>implying anyone wants to be friends with this version of Danny

i sure can't wait for him to go "I'M THE IRON FIST YOU GUYZZZZZZ" every time someone disagrees with him no matter the context again

>>94056004
I am really hyped for this. Jessica looks well done again. I think her and DD are going to be the ones to steal the show, their interactions look good together

It actually makes sense that spiderman wouldnt show up, he operates in a different part of the city than these guys. Now I dont know how far away harlem and hells kitchen is from queens but it is an explanation

>>94064021
>Wanting Karen to die before we see her tits
They should have killed her off at the end of season 1
Now I'm attached and it's going to hurt

>>94065008
Don't worry, you'll grow to hate her in every episode of Karen Page (also featuring Punisher) by ABC only on Netflix.

>>94064887
are people still pretending marvel tv is the same universe as the films? cause its always the tv shows trying to catch up to the films and the films never acknowledging them

>>94064832
Well, no one told me that Elektra would be good so I went in with no expectations.
With JJ everyone raved on how "amazing" it is.

>>94058095
Wait. Are you telling me one of those characters was meant to be luke cage.

>>94065054
They never did anything that would contradict each one's existence.

>>94064887
Why can't Peter Parker just go on a field trip or something? He needs to meet Matt at least

>>94065240
Why can't the Punisher just snipe Stark from afar?
That asshole deserved to die for a very long time.

I look at all of that action, and can't help but feel that it will encompass 1/4th of the show, with the remaining 3/4ths being boring corporate drama, bad side character development, flashbacks, and courtroom overacting.

>>94056137
No.

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>>94056004
Fucking nailed it.

>>94058273
Well you'd have to come up with a reason why he's always wearing a yellow shirt. I guess even that is too much for them.

>>94058204
I can say what I want about MCU and CWVerse but at least their creators don't have their heads up their asses and they do understand the source material even if I don't always agree with the execution.

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>>94056004
>Marvel has Sigourney Weaver and they waste her on this

JDIMSA

>>94063805
I feel like each season has gotten progressively worse
DD1 was great
JJ was good
DD2 was OK
Luke Cage was so boring my sister and I fell asleep during the first episode
and apparently Iron Fist is awful

>>94063884
>AFLECK GOT IT RIGHT
??????????????????????///

>>94057271
bit late, but I'll answer

Arrow S1 was Amazing, especially for the time. S2 was bretty gud. S3 on dropped like a rock.

Flash S1 was good, but very much "campy flash" as opposed to "batarrow." S2 had moments, but ultimately feel apart when Flash decided "you know, I've grown up, I can live a happy life. Oh wait, dad died, fuck a season's worth of everything, TIMETRAVEL!!!!" S3 haven't seen, but started off bad.

LoT S1 was not bad if you like the B-team. Snart and Rory were amazing, the rest of it slowly fell apart. S2 haven't seen, but looked like it went down from the first episode.

Supergirl...fuck. If you're a die hard 3rd wave feminist you'll praise it to high heavens because of what it is. If you're literally anyone else, you'll wonder how this show got past editing. If you're a supergirl fan, you'll probably be somewhat pissed off because instead of being a slightly edgy female superman, she's...mostly fluff with no filler, because filler might dirty up her character and as we all know, that would be misogyny.

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I'm pretty hype.

>>94056782
Luke Cage is great for the first half, then the latter middle part is trash, the final fight is hilarious. The pacing just doesn't keep up with Luke Cage

IF was decent, and would have been great if the fight scenes were better done.

>>94062667
Isn't it the same stuff that made the TMNT, or something like that?

>>94064446
Would they find Dr. Strange's origin crazy?

>>94063862
Correction, they should've used Bullseye instead of Elektra and the Hand.

Iron Fist should've been Asian man instead of a whitewashed numale

>>94063939
You can see him shine through when he has good material to work with.
https://youtu.be/gyyXQDMEa7Y
https://youtu.be/BIXsaabAcbg

>>94056004
>cut his head
>chinese guy still alive
AY LMAO
they are gonna figh him again

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>>94064508
Everyboy wants a a piece of the blind boy.

>>94056004
I'm pretty hyped.

And I hope this time the Hand won't bore me. It did during the second half of DD season 2 and Iron Fist. They just seem really uninteresting, even worse villain than those Iron Man ones.

>>94070186
I like Supergirl because for the most part it's hitting exactly what I want in a Superman series, but starring a girl instead.

>>94058095
>>94058129
The hood probably makes it easier to hide the double for stunts.

>>94074183
Not him but to me the only thing it does right are the villain fights and general plots surrounding them (Flash could learn a thing or two from them about power levels honestly). Everything else is probably the worst recent rendition of the franchise in live action. Lois and Clark and Smallville the soul of things better.

>>94074269
You know, I come to superhero shows for villains and it's amazing how Supergirl doesn't have a single good one.

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How many hallway fights do you think they'll have this time?

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>>94058095
It's more frustrating seeing that EW shoot from a few months ago for the show and Colter is wearing a yellow shirt. It's pretty much a tease.

And just give Danny Matt's costume from s1 and dye the mask. It looks so stupid to have DD be the only one in a costume meanwhile the guy with powers nobody believes in (DESPITE FUCKING SEEING IT IN PERSON) still just walks around in an open shirt and jacket.

>>94074333
They're not particularly impressive emotionally, but they get the job done and work as legitimate threats. Or at least you don't get the feeling that the only thing preventing the hero from saving things is plot-induced stupidity.

>>94074447
They're still boring and I can't bring myself to care about how much of a threat they are.
Say what you will about Zoom but he was still more memorable than anyone on Supergirl.