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Was Rob Liefeld really that bad?

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Was Rob Liefeld really that bad?
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>Doom-Shade
cool
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>>94036535
gun-force.

he was pretty fun
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>>94036535
>Pocket-razor
I feel kinda small
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>>94036535
>Can't write.
>Can't draw.
>Can't acknowledge those facts.
>Is an obnoxious cunt.

Yes, he is that bad.
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Shadow Strike
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>>94036535
ShadowShade.

Yup. Sounds like Rob alright.
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>>94036535
Shadow Shayde
Feels a little redundant.
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>>94036535
Shadowpool.
I feel like it could be cool. Like be able to melt into shadows or something.
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>>94036535
>Blood-Strike
Sounds like a vampire task force.
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>>94036535
I'd read a comic about an Adolf Hitler clone named BloodShayde or (history lesson everyone) Bloodpool.

Gunshayde, by the way.
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>bludlock
idk what that means.
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>Cable Pool
Oh
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>>94036535
He was not as bad as others make him out to be. His ideas were shit and stolen though. Considered he is one of the richest artist from the 90s he did good for himself and someone enjoyed his art style. No matter how bad the anatomy and women were drawn.
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>>94036904
Pocket-Blayde

guess that's somewhat useful
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>>94036535
>be black
>Black-Hunter
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>bludforce
this character exists already I think
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>Nightshade
cool
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>>94036535
>Bloodstrike
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>>94037114
Actually the similarity snaps in two
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>>94036535
Bludshade.
That sound really weird
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>>94036535
>Blackpool

Hol up
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>>94036535
>Pocket-pool
So am I a mini Deadpool or just a guy who has pockets with unlimited amounts of chlorine water from the pool dimension?
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Mask Hunter

not bad desu
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>>94036535
I am, BLOODSTRIKE
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>Gun-Strike
Oh come on,man...
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>>94036535
>Gunshot
Ayyy
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>>94036535
>Deathblade
....fuck you Rob.
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>>94036602
>>94036610
>>94036630
>>94036649
So many D-fags.
Shadowblaze reporting in.
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>>94036535
>Bladeblade
But I want to carry GUNS!
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>>94036535
>Shadow Hunter
I guess that was expected
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>>94036535
>Blûd-shade

Yeah, it works
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>>94036535
>Bloodshot
Already exists, I think
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>>94037961
And he is cool.
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>>94036535
>Doomforce
Well then.
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>>94036535
Blackblayde.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7krC6SY5b1A

Cool.
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>>94036535
>Cable-Pool

So am I their gay lovechild or some sort of disgusting lumpy hideously mutated amalgamation of the two with both of their powers

jesus christ that'd be ridiculously OP
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>>94036535
>Shadow Blaze
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>>94037195
You're Deadpool, but Liefield went mad with pouches when he drew you.
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>>94036535
>Shadowhunter
Ok.

Also yes, Liefeld was really that bad. But it pays to remember that he was nothing if not a product of his time. In a different time he would have been entirely ignored and nobody would even know who he was today.
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>gunblade
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>>94039462
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>>94036571
Hey, it's cool dude. I'm a tiny guy, ya know. I'm a little pup. A little shrimp. I'm a tiny dude, ya know. I get self-conscious about it sometimes, but ya know there's nothing wrong with being 5'2, ya know. I mean, I'm a little guy, but girls probably don't care, ya know. Ya know what I mean?
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Pocket-Shayde
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Nightstrike.

The twist is that I also strike during daytime.
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>>94036535
BLUDRAZOR
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>>94036535
Gunshot...really?
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>DOOM HUNTER
Kind of ominous
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>pocket blade

I sound like I'm overcompensating for my dick.
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>>94036535
Rocketpool
Am I le wacky rocketmeme xd?
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>>94036535
>Shadow Shade
Allright.
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>>94036535
Blade Blade

....
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Pocket Hunter
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>>94037195
Pocket pool is also old slang for jerking off in your pants.
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>>94037195
Umm, anon... Where I come from, pocket pool is something else entirely.
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>>94036535
>Doomblade
That's actual pretty cool sounding, sounds more like a weapon than a superhero though.
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>>94041121
Blade Blade.
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>>94036535
Gun-shot
Disappointing desu
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>>94036535
Shadowshayde

Just awful.
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>>94036535
Black-Shayde
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>>94041010
nice
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>>94036535
DoomPool

Ehh. I get the feeling this is how it really works with Liefeld.
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>Pocket-Pool
Dare you play my wicked game?
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>>94041010
>>94042130
How would Liefeld write The Shadow ?
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>>94036535
Cableshade
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>>94042540
Like Howard Chaykin did, except bigger, uglier and stupider.
And with a lot more pouches and guns.
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>>94036535
>Cable-shade
Whut?
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>>94036535
Cablestrike

Haters will hate but Cable was great and he did some cool stuff at Image. His universe was like a cut-rate version of Marvel's X-Men division. It was badass. You had to be there but Liefeld was cool.
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>>94036535
Mask Hunter
I'm the cape killer.
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>>94036535
>Bladepool
Sounds badass. I'll keep it.
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>>94036535
No he really wasn't.
I'm not saying he was the best ever, but prior to the image exodus he was... Ok.
Beyond being OK, he was fresh, and exciting during a time when Marvel, especially the X-Books, had stagnated.
I am old as fuck and I was legit excited by his first issues of New Mutants. I own a copy of # 98 even.
All the image guys brought that to the table. Even Rob innovated with layout and paneling.
He sold more comics for marvel than all the guys. working there now combined.

I got no problem with people hating on liefield, but it seems most of them don't come by it honestly, they haven't read anything or looked at anything beyond the same old same old pics that get posted year after year.
Chestcap.jpg
Leglady.jpg.
Ect.
I dropped Liefield within the first few issues of youngblood, however.
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>>94043803
What the fuck are you smoking? None of that shit is true. Liefeld sold more than Lee, McFarlane and Silvestri combined? Are you retarded?
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>Black Strike

Not bad
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>>94036535
>Shadow-Blade
could be worse
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BLOODSHOT, original AF.
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>>94037195
Your a midget with poolshark powers

Like a mini Venom, but without being an assassin
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>>94036535
The reason he doesn't get work any more is that he has a hard limit of patience: 6 issues in the tantrums begin, and if he doesn't get his own way - regardless of what he agreed to originally - he walks.

You can't tolerate freelancers like that. They don't know their own business. If he hadn't embezzled so much from Image back in the day and got away with it, he'd be on the streets by now.
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>>94045835
Also, forgot to mention it but it kind of goes without saying: only a cunt films portrait on a cellphone. Fuck this asshole.
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>>94036535
>Doomshot

Thats Liefeld alright.
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>>94036832
Bloodstrike was a real Image book, it was Liefeld's version of Suicide Squad. Only instead of prisoners it was made up of dead characters form his other comics that the Government brought back to life for wetwork. So heroes and villains stuck on a team that they can't leave because without the treatment they'll just die again.
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>>94036535
Bloodblaze. Damn I'm hardcore.
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>>94037139
...Just kidding!
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>>94045873
When you're literally filming your face, portrait is pretty damn fitting.
When filming something actually hapenning, yeah landscape mode is the way to go.
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>>94037114

Hibana was rad
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Pocket-Shade

He was/is awful.
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Pocket-Shade

He was/is awful. A hack of the highest calibur.
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>>94043803
Shut up, you dumb idiot. Liefeld WAS that bad and even more so, and you ought to be slapped in the dick for having the autistic nerve to even imply he wasn't.

Also,

>>94036535
>Doomhunter
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>>94044995
>I am the real retard.
None of those guys are working there NOW, junior.
Were you just looking so hard to get triggered you didn't read what you were replying to?
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>>94036535
>Pocket-Lock
I kind of dig it
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>>94046286
Ease up there, chum, don't pop a stitch just because someone liked something you didn't.
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>>94046300
Shut your dumb mouth and draw some hugemuscle pouchman fan art, you Liefeld fanboy. You should've not worded your post all retarded-like.
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>>94036535
>Shadow-shade
EXTREME REDUNDANCE
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>>94046300
No, you dumb fuck. Sales nowadays are nowhere what they were, so Liefeld sales post-Image are a non-factor. If you are seriously saying that Liefeld has sold more comics for Marvel than Lee, MacFarlane and Silvestri combined, you are a retard. Period. Back it up with actual numbers or shut the fuck up.
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>>94036535
Blûd-pool
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>>94036535

>pocket-hunter

is this the nemesis of Liefeld?
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>>94036535
Cool, you read my reply!
Godspeed, OP!
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>>94041121
>>94037380
>damnit BladeBlade, not again
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>>94037291
You are like two sonic characters, anon
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>>94036535
My name's Cable Lock
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>>94036535
Doomstrike. Not bad. Wonder how many pouches my costume will have, and how tiny my feet will be.
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>>94036904
You're a ship now.
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>>94046510
He's saying that Liefeld sold more back then than anyone who currently works at Marvel sells now. How do you even read comics with reading comprehension this bad?
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>>94046448
Even more redundant now that there are two of us.
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>>94036535
>Fist-Razor

Sounds like it hurts
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I am.

DOOM-LOCK!!!
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>>94036630
This thread doesnt have room for 2 shadowpools.
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>>94037380
But you do, Bladeblade. And you store them next to all the spikes, I mean blades and pouches on your body.

Meanwhile, I'm Cableshade.
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>>94036535
>Shadowshot
Sick
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>>94036535
cable-lock

>>94036593
never read his shit, greentext me
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>>94036535
He's a good designer. As distinctive as Kirby ever was.
He's a good colorist.
As an artist in general he's kinda shit.
I can't recall enough of his writing to judge that.

>>94037023
It was a different time.
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>>94036535
>Bladeshade
Motherfuckers always tryin' to ice-skate uphill.
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>>94036535
>Fist-Hunter

|'m confused
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>>94048795
I think you belong in /b/ with that name ma'am
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He isn't good, do not get me wrong on that, but he has had some decent moments and I'm certain without him we'd be missing out on at least something important. Other than Deadpool, fuck him.
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>>94049093
Deadpool isn't really his in a meaningful way, either. Way is the one that made him the meta-joking guy. Prior to that he was just a Deathstroke ripoff because he had some script ideas for Teen Titans he never got to use when DC fired him.
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>Pocket Blaze
I'd be like gambit, but with fire instead of kinetic energy.
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>Bloodstrike

that's not bad, actually. pretty generic, but not egregiously silly.
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>>94036535
>Black-Strike

Yes, he was shit. Don't let revisionism fool you.
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>>94048594
What designs of his are you thinking about? Just curious.
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Blade-shayde

That's just embarrassing
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>>94048434
>never read his shit, greentext me

This are some classic examples of how shit he is as an artist. https://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings

As a writer, he fit in the 90s, when nobody gave a shit and it was all about being X-treme!! and shit.

He embezzled money from his own company and as a result he got kicked out. He is also a gigantic douche who thinks he somehow is a legend in the field.

Also, just take a look at this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDdW08NzPQU
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>Pocket Hawk
Sounds kinda cute actually
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>Cablestrike
Mh, I don't really like that.
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>>94036535
>Pocket shade!
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>>94036535
Shadow-Strike
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I like Liefeld's art on X-books
also he has an eye for talent, got Gaiman, Moore and a bunch of great writers to work with him
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>FistForce
oh my
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>>94050154
>He got the writers that were already hailed as the greatest in the medium to work for him for money
What a talent!
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>>94049835
Shatterstar, Cable, Domino
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>Bloodhawk

Actually pretty cool.
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>>94050216
Judgement Day is one of Moore's most underrated comics
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>>94050154
Wow! You're right. Who could've guessed in the mid 90s that Gaiman and Moore would be good at writing comic books.
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>>94050230
>Shatterstar, Cable
Really? Double swords, boxing headgear, huge guns, a million pouches. Not really entering Kirby territory here.
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>>94050216
not that i like defending rob liefeld,
but the reason those people chose to work for him aside from money was that he offered them creative freedom, something that marvel and dc weren't willing to do at the time
you may want to joke about it, but maybe not telling writers how to do their jobs IS a talent in the comic book industry
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I love classic Rob. New Mutants, X-Force, Youngblood. It was around Heroes Reborn that I think he got bad, the anatomy never bothered me I was there for the clear enthusiasm on ever page. I can't enjoy things like X-Force volume 2 or even more recent projects
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>>94050426
Then, by all accounts, Jim Lee must be the biggest genius ever in the history of comic books, since he did all that and actually managed to get rich and earn the respect of his peers in the process. And by the way, when he draws something, it is still kind of a deal, unlike Robbie, the Boy Wonder.
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>>94050560
In other words, you grew up.
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>>94050560
I mean look at this X-Force page, the panels are an exclamation mark. That's great!
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>>94050606
I wasn't reading these comics growing up, I found them around the same time.
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>>94036535
>Pocket-Shade

Hmm
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>>94050570
Lee is though
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>>94036535
>cablestrike

I have no idea what my powers are
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>>94049976
>This are some classic examples of how shit he is as an artist
oh, well they do have grueling schedules, I wouldn't blame him is he sometimes-
>https://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings
fucking wew

>He embezzled money from his own company and as a result he got kicked out. He is also a gigantic douche who thinks he somehow is a legend in the field.
isn't he still writing today? also how do we know about his ego and scandal?
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>>94036535
>Cable-Pool
FUCK
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>>94051288
I don't know a source on the embezzling, but the Image documentary says different reasons.

1. He set up his own comics company called Maximum that was publishing outside of Image and refused to move those comics to the Image banner
2. He was caught trying to poach talent from Marc Silvestri's Top Cow studio which made Marc leave Image and he came back once Liefeld was gone
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>BloodBlayde
I'm too 90s to not be cancelled
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>>94036535
>NightBlade
edgy af, but I like it somewhat
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>>94036535
>Shadowpool

Fuck it, its Deadpool as a ninja.
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>>94036535
GUNPOOL
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>Bloodpool
Too straightforward?
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>>94036535
Cable Hunter

I'm thinkin I'm an Omega Red knockoff
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Fuck all y'all I got an unironically cool one and saving it for character.
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Blood Hunter
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>>94036535
>Pocketshade

nani?
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>>94052458

Brudder!
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>>94048434
>cable-lock
The protector of bicycles!
Except it's shit and always gets defeated!
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>>94050240
Actually a character
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodhawk

first appearence:1993, of fucking course
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>>94036832
I'm Bloodblade.
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>>94037168
So you be sayin we wuz fairgrounds and shiet?
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>>94036535
>Cable-razor
I like it.
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>>94052975
They really loved hawks back then.
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>>94036535
>Bloodshade
What does this even mean?
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>>94036535
>Cable-shot
wasn't I in suicide squad?
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>>94055227
Imagine a lot of blood, I mean a whole shitload of it. Now, throw it in the air.

The area under it is the Bloodshade.
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Gunshot
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>>94036535
DoomHawk, motherfucker I'm Dr Doom's fucking robot familiar
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Deathpool

Cheap knockoff it is
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>>94036535

>Doomlock

Eh
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>>94050699

1) I can never tell apart 90s Feral and 90s Wolfsbane

2) Feral is the only dead character who was present in many comics for many years, that I have never seen anyone miss.

Liefeld deserves to be in the Hall of fame of comics, if something like that exists, for creating Cable, Deadpool (even if he was a rip off) and Domino, and being so imitated. I guess to same degree he was a good designer.
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>>94036535
>Shadow Shade
this name sounds redundant
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