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Reminder that this is how it ends.
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>>94032398
Just like fucking Inuyasha.
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Reminder that the "Forgotten" characters will never ever show up again and that we're stuck with Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Eggman, and maybe Shadow forever.
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Note: Sonic died while looking for the time stones.
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>>94032409
Someone should make a list of all characters that will never show up again.
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>>94032409
>>94032492
>all of the waifus that are now gone forever
life is too cruel
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>>94032409
Wouldn't the cartoon characters be owned by Sega?
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>>94032404
Except Inuyasha ends with Kagome and Inuyasha together, Kagome calls Seshomaru her brother-in-law, and implies that they are progenitor of her own clan.
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>>94032398
>>94032409
Blame Archie.
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>>94032567
>Kagome calls Seshomaru her brother-in-law

She already cucked him.
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>>94032409
sucks ASS being a brotherhood of guardians fan after all these years thinking that maybe just maaaaaaybe there's still a chance. the worst part is knowing that this is probably for the best
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>>94032409
Nicole's lynx form was entirely Archie I think so that's gone without any possible hope

SEGA is never going to use Antoine, Sally, Nack the Weasel, Scratch, Grounder, Bean, the polar bear, and the walrus dude ever again either

Silver, Shadow, Gamma, Knuckles, and Rouge aren't gone, but Archie actually gave them personalities/made them likable so they might as well be

Cassia, Clove, and Razor were hot

RIP Shard
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>>94032409
Don't forget Sticks.
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>>94032398
>Amy dies on the quest for time stones
>Sonic starts finding time stones and trying to go back in time to save Amy but every time she's Final Destination'd because her death is fated
>Sonic starts amassing more and more time stones and fucking with time more and more
>Eventually fucks with time so much his psyche is shattered in every seconds of Time itself, becoming Infinite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4
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>>94032567
At least seshomaru still gets the best girl though
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>>94032522
I am going to miss Nicole. She had a precarious existence.
>her lynx form stuck around for 12 years.
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>>94032409
That's the worst part of this.
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>>94032657
Do you really expect her to appear after Boom ends?
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>>94032409
good.

the less of sonic's friends the better
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>>94032838
Why?
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>>94032862
Because it's called SONIC for a reason.
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knuckles x rouge
the only thing i care when i watch the anime LMAO
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>>94032409
>Boohoo! My OCs and scrapped nobodies!

Oh, what ever shall this franchise do?
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>>94032398
Well, Sega did say they are "Taking it in another direction" Meaning that, although it's not going to be with Archie, I don't think Sega are going to give up on Sonic comic books. Who knows, maybe we will see a revival of Sonic The Comic

Yes, i'm in denial. Let me cope, dammit.
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>>94032873
That logic is dumb. A protagonist is nothing without a supporting cast.
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>>94032873
It's called a Supporting Cast. Without a supporting cast, you have nobody for the main character to play off of.
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>>94032958
>tfw haven't moved on from the pendering

and I was just starting to warm up to the new universe too.
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>>94032409
Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>94032970
>>94032974
Okay so keep Tails and Knuckles, no one else is needed.
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>>94032804
Considering she's the best thing to come out of the series... Yes.
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I really have no sensation of loss for the SatAM/Archie characters. They've been unnecessary since forever, and it never felt like they fit in with Sonic to begin with.

Still there were some nice stories
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>people are actually grieving for the loss of the fucking Sonic comic

you really are autistic
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>>94032838
>>94032992
>sola sonica autism still exists

IGN: 6.5/10, too much friends
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>>94033124
You don't play Sonic for his friends, you play Sonic for Sonic.
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>>94033162
but Sonic Adventue 1 is my favorite Sonic title
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>>94033181
Of course an adventure kid would care about Sonic's friends.
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>>94032398
Cheer up, kiddos and move on to finer things rising from Archie Sonic's ashes!
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>>94032873
>>94032992
>>94033162
>>94033199
Hey, shitposter-kun found his way to the /co/ Sonic threads!

>>94032645
AFAIK, everything used in the post-reboot comics are owned by SEGA, to prevent another Pendering. It all depends on whether or not SEGA wants to use them
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you have to give them your money so they can continue to make more of the things you love.
If you don't support the things you love they will die that's how businesses work.
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>>94034131
They didn't die due to sales, anon. They died because Archie is retarded
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>>94034131
Wrong. Archie got plenty of funding from Sonic comics, but their tolerance of legal negligence and hubris is what nullified any edge that Archie Sonic had.
Had they cared about preserving and renewing crucial contracts with employees such as Ken Penders, there would have been no cancellation for the time being.
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Dyou think SEGA collectively grinds their teeth together when asked if any of the comic characters will appear in the games?
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>>94034157
Go the fuck to bed, Men "I love men" Penders. You started-- AND KEPT UP-- this bullshit.
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>>94034047
This image makes me want to fucking vomit
It's like the man literally browsed for the "coolest" looking texts and graphics and just slapped them on
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>>94034182
What is wrong with you?

The primal cause as to why Ken Penders was able to stall lawsuit with Archie was due to the fact that after contracts were destroyed along with the storage facility Archie didn't bother to force their employees to sign new ones. Ken's claim was that his contract survived, but he declined to present it time after time until SEGA stepped in and forced Archie Sonic writers to remove every character that Ken Penders created.
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>>94032409

Frankly Im more amazed most of them stuck around this long

there is no logical reason the Sonic comic should have lasted 5 years let's alone TWENTY FUCKING FOUR
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>>94032804
She'll make it to the next olympics game being female and all.
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>>94032927
>2017
>still caring about knuckles x rouge

Be nice to your mom.
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>>94032958
>Sega did say they are "Taking it in another direction" Meaning that, although it's not going to be with Archie, I don't think Sega are going to give up on Sonic comic books

It definitely reads as "Archie continuity is dead and burried but we may or may not use the comic medium to promote the franchise in the future".
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>>94032957
Forces now allows you to make your own playable OC
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>>94033086
>They've been unnecessary since forever

Do people actually give a shit about Antoine/Rotor? at least I'll get it when waifufags say they'll miss their furtits.
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>>94034717
Fucking THIS. Anyone who thinks the games universe is "pure" and superior is delusional. Sega has been introducing their own bad OCs ever since Adventure, only to be thrown away and replaced in the next game by another new, useless character.

If you hate the comic characters, and prefer the game characters, that's fine. But don't act like they're any better. With Sonic Deviantart Forces, the games have become just as, if not more autistic, than the comics ever were.
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>>94032645
Bean and the polar bear are from SEGA's Sonic Fighters, though.
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>>94034926
I guess you can create expies for all the Archie characters with this.
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>>94032409

The SatAM characters don't offer anything that cannot be covered by Sega game characters. There is no reason for them to continue existing.
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>>94035045
Comics? Nah. I'm creating my little homie right here.
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ken penders has been dancing around showing his ass since the news broke and it's fucking disgusting. is there any person in /co/ that is as much of a slimeball?
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>>94033086
Unless you are blinded by nostalgia for the comics and SatAM, you will realize that none of the characters really matter or are accurate to their game portrayals.

I'm nostalgic for Adventures and you don't see me wanting fuckin' Eggman Junior or whoever back, do you?
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Reminder that Sonic's arms are not freaking blue!
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>>94035294
He's just lucky that nothing we could do to him is worse than simply being Ken Penders. Living his "life"
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>>94032873
You say that, but I'm sure you could write a cool sonic story without Sonic. A "Sonic isn't there so what do we do?" type of story maybe. Sometime, and only sometime, it can be interesting to remove the main element of a franchise precisely to emphasise its importance.
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>>94035937

Sonic X was an entire TV series where Sonic was reduced to a guest character who sometimes only had a minute of screentime per episode and was rarely involved in the plot unless it was a "big" episode like a season finale.

And Sonic X was shit.
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>>94035951
I haven't watched Sonic X so I wouldn't know, but I said "could" and "can", not "should" and "will".

But the way you describe it, it seems that he's around and do nothing, the focus is elsewhere. In what I'm suggesting he wouldn't be there and the focus would be on his absence. It would still be about him.
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>>94032398
So, is there now an eighth circle of hell reserved exclusively for Ken Penders and his friends or what?
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>>94035294
Plenty.

It's pretty funny, though. He was just waiting on the announcement just to do this, mostly in response to actual children and the mentally disabled. Like shit man, how little do you have going on that you're waiting on edge just to rile up kids?
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>>94036419
Calm down, it's just a book.
Like, he's a pathetic baby, but god damn.
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>>94033117
Yeah, why should they greive for a comic that was really good and was in their childhood?
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>>94032645
Nack, Scratch, Grounder, Bean, and Bark all have background cameos in the new 2d Sonic. I'd say there's hope of them showing up in a minor supporting role in the future.

Sally, Antoine, Rotor, Bunnie and the rest of the Archie originals are gone for good though.
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I welcome a comic with:
Sonic
Knuckles
Tails
Amy
Mighty
Ray
Knack/Fang
Bark
Bean
Big
E-102 series
Tikal
Chaos
Shadow
Rogue
Omega
Silver
Blaze
Marine
Sticks
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>>94036547
>a comic that was really good

Let's not get carried away, anon.
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>>94032838
Even Sega is reversing the "Sonic only" trend; hell the main theme for Sonic Forces is all about not being able to do things alone. I'm glad they're not pandering to the classic fags anymore because they get an entire game to themselves.
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>>94036661

I think all these poor, grieving nostalgiafags have forgotten just how god awful 80% of the Archie Sonic catalog really is.

Someone needs to remind them.
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>>94036661
>I can point to parts where it was bad, so it was never good!
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>>94036661
Forgot about that.
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>>94032409
Now you know how fans of the extended universe feel when The Force Awakens came out.
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>>94036638
>forgetting the only official family
Ey.
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>>94032398
will I ever get to see Honey the Cat again
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>>94032661
>We Madoka Magika Now[/ spoiler]
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>>94037176
>80%
>Flynn takes over at 160 of 290
>An 80 issue side comic is also in his tenure
>Quality never dropped below 'Good' during his tenure
>The first fifty issues were at least decent
Don't know how to do percentages, do you?
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>>94037352
The percentage of good Spider-man comics is way higher than good Sonic comics compared to the entire input
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>>94037497
Here.
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>>94037520
There's a LOT of garbage spiderman out there.
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When is the sega panel at SDCC? I want to know if there'd be a new comic and if Ian is going to continue writing?
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>>94037761

>Sega says in statement that they want a new direction
>You think they'll hire the writer from the previous series

Are you autis-- Oh, right. Sonic fan. Never mind.
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Tell me about your precious "character development", comicfags. Why are you clinging to it so much and insist that it's a good thing? Hardmode: no origin stories.
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>>94037761
I can already tell you that there's no new comic and Ian isn't touching official Sonic stuff for a while.
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>>94037874
Because without it, you end up with villains like pic related, instead of villains like Breezie, Mammoth Mogul, Fini, Eggman, The Egg Bosses etc.
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Post Your collection. 1/17
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>>94037947
2/17 STH I just need 6, 12, 22, 23, 30, 36, 37, 39, 78, 82, 83, 91, 97, 98, 99
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>>94032657
Ive never watched this show but im going to guess this character is voiced by Cree Summer.
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>>94038006
3/17
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>>94038040
4/17
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>>94032398
Amy will be forever virgin.
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>>94038068
5/17 The Complete Sonic Universe.
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>>94038098
6/17 Complete Sonic X
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>>94032398
Actually, this was the last issue published.
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>>94038118
7/17 Knuckles (missing #26)
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>>94038133
I resent the fact that there's a fucking Riverdale ad on that cover.
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>>94038151
8/17 Sonic Super Special (missing 9 & 14)
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>>94038182
The First 3 issue mini series. Including the Preview book for issue 0.
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>>94038211
10/17 The other 3 Issue Mini Series.
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>>94038245
11/17 Free Comic Book Day Issues.
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>>94038269
12/17 The Complete Sonic Boom
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>>94037520
Holy fucking shit, you ACTUALLY think that.

Sonic's "Dark Ages" were emulation of mediocre Marvel stories with bad art. As in like, literally some of the same people working on it. It makes up a little under half the run, not counting spinoff books. The majority of ASM is outright garbage. Let's not even get fucking started on shit like Spectacular, Peter Parker, Unlimited, etc.

I love Spider-Man, but don't you dare bring your casual fucking ass in here and try to tell me that anything with less than 3/4 garbage issues has a better batting average than Spidey. The Untold Tales, Blues, Marvel Knights, Hookys and Original Clone Sagas are the outliers, not the baseline.

Next you're going to tell me the Pal/Gray Power Girl run is a bad comic because almost every other Power Girl comic is shit, or that Cerebus is shit because it falls apart around 220. Get the fuck outta here.
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>>94038319
>has a better
Meant "doesn't have a better," my bad.
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>>94038291
13/17 All the Variant Covers. And a few Comic Con Covers.
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>>94038359
14/17 The promo comic Sonic on Genesis. Including the DC Comic Books that feature it to.
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>>94037514
>>Quality never dropped below 'Good' during his tenure
Eh, when his arcs start to drag on, it reaches "Meh" levels at best.
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>>94035951
At the same time, Sonic X was a show that made Sonic into an shitty "Gary Stu", he was perfect, he accomplished almost everything, everybody worshiped the ground he stepped on and regarded him as a god, there is a point where he's somehow the only one in the entire planet that knows the Earth spins around the sun (it's a plot device).
If this is the kind of shit Sega and gamefags want, I'll take Archie's "Mobius" and "OCs" over it any day.
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>>94032398
Reminder that the final issue was titled "Sonic's Cease and Desist".

They knew what was about to happen.
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>>94037514
>41-44
>46-50
>"decent"
When will this meme end?
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>>94037761
I like Ian's writing and competence at dealing with the licence and fans at the same time, but I think he needs a rest, he's been writing Sonic for ten years now, he should try something different.
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>>94038427
Also A Halloween Giveaway Book. I got from the man himself.
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>>94038550
>your mom
>"decent"
When will this meme end?
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>>94038610
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>>94038644
nice Haloween gift, indeed.
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>>94038644
What evil did you do to get that?
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>>94038669
I didn't know he had a ebay account.
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>>94037655
thanks
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>>94038618
Wow, EPIC bro!!

But seriously, have you read them? It's nearly ten issues of unfiltered Penders. Same shit that people always rag on, but it gets a pass because [???].
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It's a shame that it ended but maybe we can Sonic in another companies hands for comics. I'd like to see what they did in the Mega Man comics and retell game stories with more content. Reintroducing characters and having some original ideas.
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>>94038792
We know, Ken Penders exist, and he made a bunch of bad comics. We know because you keep spamming the same shit everytime in every sonic thread ever. Let's talk about the good artist and the good comics, for once.
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>>94038792
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>>94035030
yes, and sega owns Nack, Scratch, Grounder, walrus guy and the rest too. Thats the point of that line, SEGA technically still owns them so they arent "lost" but they're dead characters that SEGA never actually uses so effectively they might as well have disappeared along with the Archie-exclusive characters
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>>94038461
>there is a point where he's somehow the only one in the entire planet that knows the Earth spins around the sun

jesus christ what
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Sonic's truckload of boring forgettable characters and retarded stories deserve to fade into obscurity
The only good direction for the series to go into is to continue from Mania being fun 2D old-school games
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>>94032567
I always thought it was hilarious that Kagome went back to the future to get her HS diploma before moving permanently to the Past.
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>>94039224
>Why do people group this in with the good early stuff? It's the same as the stuff they continually shit on.
>WOW STOP SPAMMING ABOUT HOW KEN IS BAD

Sir, I understand you're grieving, but try to regain your composure and speak coherently. I questioned why that string of issues gets a pass while stuff like the Sonic Adventure adaptation doesn't. I didn't say that Ken Penders is Satan and only writes bad comics. Like, seriously, I'm the last person you should be levying that criticism at; I'm always bringing up DeCesare's work in these threads.
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>>94037933
What's wrong with that?
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>>94039522
Fuck off Moviebob. Go jerk off to Mario on /v/
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>>94038792
I think it gets a pass since it killed off Sally(or at least tried to), which was the most interesting her character was up until she got roboticized.
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>>94039602
Nah, Nintendo can die with their next gimmicky console, I just want Sega to stop blowing money on shitty Sonic games and put them towards their actually good games
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Sonic was never good. The classic games were shit and I'm glad Sonic is one step closer to death.
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>>94039624
>Sega
>Good games
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>>94039633
>STOPLIKINGWHATIDONTLIKE.jpg
Keep on spergin.
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>>94039522
>I hate thing
>Therefore everyone should hate thing
Why even come into these threads? Maybe a series just isn't for you?
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>>94039610
If you have a big ol' hateboner for Sally I'd get recommending 47, I guess, but the rest of that group is a bunch of really bad plots and questionable art. If anything the next 25 issues were a step up (not saying much there), so it's weird people don't go with 1-75 instead. It even segues into Ian's status quo better.
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>>94039573
If you can't see what's wrong with that, then this is something more wrong with you and any argument of mine can fix.
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>>94039659
Look at this Sonicfag, he can't accept other opinions.
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>>94039690
It's Sonic the bad guys don't need to be complex.
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>>94039573
Good concept but bad execution is worse than a middling character.
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>>94039573
>What's wrong with that?
Baiting or legitimately retarded.
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>>94039682
There's a few in the thread screaming "stop liking what I don't like!". Full bore autism.
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>>94032522
its maybe for the best, i mean how do you use tikal again without fucking up
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>>94032398
old amy was better
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>>94039688
No, she's actually my favorite character and the only reason I ever gave a damn about the comic. She's just usually a one note character most of the time. Seems like no one knows what to do with her.
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>>94039832
You know, that's fair.
I'd just recommend not reading the comic past issue 20 if you're in it for her.
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>>94039786
Anon you should know by now that if someone doesn't like a thing on the internet, they have to act like the biggest autist possible about it. Reminder that a Sonic mod quit the entire fanbase because of Forces, while writing a multi-paragraph post bitching about the state of the franchise
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>>94039735
That makes no sense.
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>>94039633
>X was never good
This meme in general needs to die already
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Im glad we can all agree that losing snively was the worst of it all
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>>94040244
Not really.
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>>94040271
shut up faggot
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>>94040244
>that nose
wew Sega, way to go!
I'm glade this antisemite comic is over.
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>>94040322
his nose is the best part, fuck you
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>>94040322
it was a visual gag
and they toned it down in the comic
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>>94034717
Give that fox a green jumpsuit and we might talk about fashion.
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>>94032398
Best girl won in the end. I can live with this.

>>94032409
Throw in Rouge, Cream, Blaze, and the Chaotix and I can live with that.
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>>94032409
Thank God, knuckles is safe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXglHbYB1Y4
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>>94032398
Wait a minute, they're kids again?
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>>94032409
If the next comic uses game exclusive characters only, they could use:

Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Amy
Eggman
Metal Sonic
Cream
Big
Shadow
Rouge
Omega
Blaze
Silver
Marine
Vector
Espio
Charmy
Jet
Storm
Wave
& possibly Sticks

Bring back the Archie crew & you could still have a pretty good comic.

>>94041326
Flashback arc
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>>94039690
>I can't explain but I'll insult you anyway
Why so irrational? Also, still no examples of character development.
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>>94037874
I can't speak much on character development, but I loved the comic because characters like Knuckles was far more entertaining in the post-reboot comics than he's been in any game post-Adventure.
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>there are people who care about sonic's characters and story
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>>94042123
>>94041470
Go back to shitposting on /vg/
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>>94042123
Those characters and story in the comics gave variety to the franchise. The games are getting very repetitive and safe, with any spinoffs and other attempts at doing new things (riders, shadow, 06, boom, etc) always being half assed.
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>>94042123
Why do you hate fun?
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>>94041462
The game exclusive sonic comic is going to last about a year then the publishers are going to decide it's not making enough money and cancel it.
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Here is the difference between Ken penders and Ian Flynn as clear as day. Ian is sharing love for the creators. Ken is bashing the creators for not having a backup job. Ugh
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>>94042688
I recognize that avatar: you posted your comic on /co/ like a year ago. I've been looking for it ever since.

Tell me what its name was, you bastard.
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>>94032974
>>94033124
the problem with sonc's supporting cast is that they practically shoehorned as many of them as they can to the point where they overshadowed sonic and turned him into a guest star in his own games.

BOOM & maina are a step in the right direction as far as the number sonic's friends in a game go. just keep it to the core cast.
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>>94042688
Ian Flynn is aces and Ken Penders is a scumbag lowlife.

Facts of life.
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>>94042831
No, no, you don't understand, when comics do it it's good! Because we said so!
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>>94042831
I get what you mean but maybe if they can reach the balance of having just enough minor characters with Sonic not being overshadowed then that would be great.
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>>94043119
Did you know they did with just Tails and Knuckles? Crazy, right? We don't need anyone else.
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>>94043119
i always felt 3 or 4 was the magical number
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>>94042831
>>94043180
>they overshadow Sonic
You say this when they haven't done that shit in a decade & even Forces (which is using the majority of the cast) still has them playing second fiddle to Sonic. It's cute that you're trying to shitpost this nonsense in /co/ now after being told to fuck off from /sthg/, tho
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>>94043410
Then explain when we ask you things, like why does Sonic need 50 or more minor characters?
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>>94043508
Because it's called a supporting cast that makes the world bigger than 5 characters, genius. You can have characters like Blaze, Chaotix, Amy, etc & not have them overshadow Sonic.
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>>94043571
Can you? When did that ever work out? Why are you autistic enough to care about the world building of fucking Sonic?
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>>94042688

Ken is a fucking parasite, what's new
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>>94039540
The fuck did she even bother going back for it? It's worthless in the past
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>>94037116
>not pandering to the classic fags anymore

>Classic Sonic is in Forces
>A genesis Sonic game is coming out next month and it's success is what is going to determine the direction of the series
>there's no way this won't outsell Forces

I wish I was as optimistic as you anon but come Sonic's next milestone anniversary, don't be surprised if the cast has been trimmed down to just Sonic, Tails and Eggman.
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>>94043645
>Can you?
If you have good writers, yes

>When did that ever work out?
What made people love the post-reboot comics was that it had good writing, made the game characters entertaining & still had Sonic as the main hero

>Why are you autistic enough to care about the world building of fucking Sonic
Story & characters are things SEGA introduced into the games. If you're gonna put something in the games, it should be done properly. Go back to shitting up /vg/
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>>94034855

I can't speak for Rotor, but Antoine got a ton of fans once he and Bunny became an item.

I don't think he's great but I do have a soft spot for cowardly characters that overcome their fears.
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>>94043830
I wish I was as optimistic as you anon but come Sonic's next milestone anniversary, don't be surprised if the cast has been trimmed down to just Sonic, Tails and Eggman.
>implying this is bad

>>94043832
I'm asking what makes the writing good and obviously SEGA realizes that having serious plots and extra characters is a bad thing now.
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>>94042961
Comics and games are different mediums.
You can have a game with only one character because you control it and that's where the fun comes from. In a drawn/written story like a comic, with some experimental exceptions, you need characters for the protagonist to interact with or it becomes boring and dull.
It's ridiculous how far fans of Sonic games go to complain about the comics not being like their ideal of the games.
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>>94034926
>ever since Adventure

Anon, they've introduced at least one new character in every major game way before Adventure.
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>>94044151
>what makes the writing good
They take traits of the characters personalities & properly utilize them. Arcs like Shattered & Champions are some of my favorite examples of how the comics used characters like Amy, or Knuckles.

>SEGA realizes that having serious plots and extra characters is a bad thing now
Have you not seen Forces?
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>>94043645
>Why are you autistic enough to care about the world building of fucking Sonic?
>has been arguing for 30 minutes with some anon about the world building of Sonic

I love this fucking thread.
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>>94036638
That is extremely optimistic.
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>>94039633
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>>94044237
Forces is a mistake SEGA will soon learn from, like 06, Shadow, the adventure games, and heroes.
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>>94035249
This is the truth FFfags don't want to hear. I mean fuck, you guys got almost 300 issues of this shit, quit your crying. And it's not like these characters aren't going to live on through countless autistic fanfics and fan comics anyway.
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>>94044300
Why do you say that?
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>>94044368
>don't want to hear
People have heard that nonsense before & have stated numerous times that they still liked the FFs. Going "stop crying!" isn't gonna make them like those characters any less..
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What the fuck has happened to this thread?
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>>94044468
Shitposting
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>>94044368
>you guys got almost 300 issues of this shit, quit your crying
The circumstances that caused its cancelation, after years of struggling, are valid reasons to be mad.
A lot of fans are also mad that they didn't get so see the resoluton of an arc that was a homage to the classic games, with no FF except for a cameo in one issue.
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>>94044368
>STOPLIKINGWHATIDONTLIKE.jpg
I may read a poorly-written videogame based comic for children, but at least I'm not this pathetic.
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>>94044391

Sega barely uses their characters that were borne in the Adventure Era onward outside of measily little cameos.

What makes you think dead characters from the classic era have a chance of being used at all?

And make no mistake, Sega is going to be STRICT about which characters can and cannot be used again. They're done giving anyone freedom to use any characters that won't sell games.
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>>94038015
Nika Futterman actually.
However, she does sound a little Cree and a lot of people seem to confuse the two...so you're not that far off.
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>>94044733
>They're done giving anyone freedom to use any characters that won't sell games.

If Sega decides to do another comic, they are not gonna give much of a shit if they're used. They don't expect the comics to boost games sales. They haven't in years. It was literally just extra money to get.

At worst, the new guys just get stricter rules on what those characters can and can't do
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>>94043571

>characters like blaze, silver & E102 are largely unnecessary outside the context of their respective stories yet we still see them in other games

>who the hell was demanding for the chaotix to come back?

>amy is fine as a player 4 to tails (player 2) & knuckles (player 3) or a sonic equivalent to princess peach but do we really need cream, rouge & sticks?

and that's not even covering the shitty characters like big or shadow
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>>94032492
I was going to try but I ended up depressing myself.
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>>94044056
Was Rotor even noteworthy for anything post 1998?
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>>94045016
>big
>shitty

You take that back!
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>>94032657
>>94041462
Sticks is the only character i'm not sure about the existence of.
Is she safe or not? I hope so, i'll take her over most others including any SatAM ones.
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>>94045016
>who the hell is demanding the chaotix to come back
Me, faggot. I was glad to hear that they're in Forces.

>do we really need cream, rouge & sticks?
They're fine/fun characters, so there's no harm in them existing
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>>94045037

I'm actually pretty behind in the comics, so nothing comes to mind. But I have seen a lot of fans pouring out some love for Antoine.

But Rotor? I almost never see any love for Rotor... not unless you count barafags.
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>>94035030
There's a pretty long list of characters from SEGA that only have a modern presence because the Archie comics decided that they wanted to use them. Characters like Bean and Bark were used once and only once for SEGA, and frankly I doubt SEGA is ever going to use them again.
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>>94037497
It's actually a possibility since she's a Sega character, not some Western original donut.
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>>94045037
being gay
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>>94044366
You're the reason Sega shits out garbage like Lost World and thinks that making Sonic as bland as possible is a good thing.
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>>94045244
>making Sonic as bland as possible
How? Because I want Sonic to stop being shit?
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>>94045050
>worst part of adventure
>not shitty

wew lad
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>>94039981
There doesn't need to be any motivation beyond Eggman wanting to take over the world.
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>>94045244
>not taking the focus away from sonic makes him bland as possible
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>>94045404
They're trying to make Sonic like Mario, a bland corporate mascot, without understanding why it works for Mario and why for Sonic it's a regression of the series that leads to trash like Lost World (and even good stuff like Generations being less than what they could be). With delusional idiots like you who hate story and characters leading the charge.
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>it's another "all cartoonish video games should have new super mario bros tier story telling episode"
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>>94045727
"story in a video game is like story in a porn. it's expected to be there but it's not important" - john "raids the offices when he's fired" carmack
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>>94045809
And look where he is now, a slave to Facebook.
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>>94045809
What if you like our porn having a story?
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>>94032398
Good.

Fuck Sonic.
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SatAMfags have no place in this fanbase. Hopefully all of you screw off now that the comic is gone.
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>85 unique posters
>224 posts
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>>94045919
Yes, people usually make more than one post a thread.
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>>94045954
Yeah but you have to wonder how many of it is samefagging.
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>>94045867
No
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It is sort of fascinating just how much better Archie was than literally every other iteration of Sonic. Where as the others tried to just have the main cast and couldn't even get that right, Archie created a whole world of OCs that ranged from meh to real fucking fine.
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>>94045867
Make them leave, faggot
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>>94045972
There's nothing in this thread to samefag about really.
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>>94046088
>It is sort of fascinating just how much better Archie was than literally every other iteration of Sonic.
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>>94041462
>>94032657
>>94045111
>>94036638
So is Sticks a "game exclusive" character or not?

>>94042579
That's pretty pessimistic, I don't really think most people care that much for the SatAM characters as much as some people in the thread think.
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>>94046228
Most likely a Boom exclusive character, which sucks.
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>>94045819
>And look where he is now, a slave to Facebook.

you're a little behind the times. he's getting sued by bethesda for taking a company hard drive that had all his stuff for oculus
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>>94034660
shut up i still like it
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>>94032409
I have a sliver of faith that the taxman will somehow get Fang back in the series some day.
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>>94046509
I hope you're right. But I doubt it.
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>>94046361
Well that's a shame, sounds pretty limited then.
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>>94046228
You expect a game exclusive comic to last long with all the restrictions Sega has on what their characters can and can't do? It would probably last more than a year, but definitely wouldn't beat Archie Sonic. SatAM and other OC's give a lot more wiggle room plot-wise and characterization-wise
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>>94046582
The restrictions Sega listed really aren't that bad, it mostly seemed like standard stuff. Second there's a shit ton of Sonic characters who have been in games.

Good writing is what determines the staying power, which Archie Sanic rarely had, but luckily had some good writing towards the end of its life.
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>>94046679
Sega is only gonna tighten their grip on what the comics can do after having to deal with two lawsuits in like 5 years because of Archie. Hell, Ian had to argue with Archie a bit just to do the Unleashed arc
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>>94044056
>shippers
Those morons don't count.
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>>94046847
I don't really think it is especially since Archie doesn't have the rights anymore.
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>>94046679
SONIC ONLY
NO EMOTIONS
NO ROBOTNIK
FINAL DESTINATION

>>94046847
Dude, the comic is dead. They rebooted the entire universe and removed 99.9% of the cast and were still sued.
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>>94038644
Please don't support him. What keeps him going is that he has fans. I don't even know if this is about money anymore.
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>>94047029
It was never about the money. Only the death of Sonic at the hands of Knuckles
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>>94045037
He was gay. Had his husband tortured to death. Created Nicole in a different universe and sent her to the main one. He was the one who made Tails a genius. He was more than a match for Robotnik is terms of hacking and weapons. Ironwalrus was alright. He was on the council of acorn. Daddy issues in the reboot.
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The twist involving these three is so fucking good. Makes me sad we'll never get to see them again.
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>>94047304
It's at least interesting how you can see the type of story Ken wants to tell. To bad a comic about a cartoon hedgehog speedster is the only thing people wanted anything to do with that he was involved in. Better make endless side characters and a convoluted plot for a co-star as something that resembles a creative outlet for the ego.
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so what do you all think of the Sonic The Comic online continuation?
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>>94045727
>story is the most important part of a game

and people like you are the reason why david cage has a career or why walking simulators exist

>>94045774
SATAM & archie sonic were a mistake and partially responsible for why the sonic fandom is shit

sega pulling the plug was the smartest thing they did.
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>>94034047
did you find this on deviantart ?
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>>94045774
watch out, you;ll trigger the numales
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>>94048058
Entitled game purists are the reason the Sonic fandom is shit.
These threads just reminded me how much game Sonic fans actually want everything to be boring and bland out of some misguided sense of faithfulness to the holy Sega of Japan or some shit.
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Good night sweet princess.
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>>94048554
see >>94045719

how does keeping the focus on sonic make him boring?

if you're gonna go "muh worldbuilding" or "muh supporting cast" then that's what the core cast of tails, knuckles & amy is for.
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>>94032398
So was Archie just going to stall for as long as they possibly could have? Why did SEGA have to be the ones to announce that the plug was being pulled?
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>>94044742
>>94038015
I tell them apart based on the show My Gym Partner's a Monkey

Nika was the main character, Adam, while Cree was his human love interest.
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>>94048976
I didn't follow this shitstorm, but from a business perspective it must have been to keep interest in the company and see if the former readers of the sonic comic would be interested on their other projects to try and not lose revenue.
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>>94048755
We'll always have the decades of furry porn she inspired.
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>>94048976
I don't doubt that they were just trying over and over to work something out.
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>>94032398
IDW got Sonic
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>>94048554
>Entitled game purists are the reason the Sonic fandom is shit.
Go argue with someone who waits for Genesis third issue. Talk shit, get hit.
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>>94032398
NOW THE FOOL SEEKS TO RETURN TO THE PAST.......
>>
Good news, faggots.
https://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/888536084472352770
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IDW GOT SONIC


https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/888538195045998592
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Reboot 3.0 here we come.
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>>94049900
Reboot 4.0 when?
>>
IDW is nice.

But i'm not going to get my hopes up until we see that it's not going to be as barebones as the last seven years of games.
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>>94049803
>>94049849
Holy shit, Sega doesn't waste ANY time.

Alright, I'll admit I'm curious how they'll handle it.
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Can't wait for the inevitable MLP crossover.
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>>94049803
>>94049849
>checks the comments
>it's full of horses.
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>>94050185
Imagine the new levels of shitposting such a crossover will spawn
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>>94050211
Will Sonic be banished to /mlp/?
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Now I will be on the edge wondering if the FF will be in it in any form.
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>>94036634
>Sally, Antoine, Rotor, Bunnie

They aren't Archie originals. They are Satam refugees. Though IDK what is the ownership situation with those characters. I know Sega has some weird situation with the Sonic OVA, hence them forbidding characters and even Knuckles's hat, but Satam characters were clearly in a better situation, hence them being in the comic to the bitter end.
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>>94049849

I knew I should have gone to their panel today.
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>>94050185
>>94050189
>>94050211
>All those people whining about continuing the series
I hope you're fucking happy.
>>
If the Freedom Fighters are back, then I'm dropping it before it even begins.
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>>94050222
They already share the majority of deviantart.
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>>94050242
IIRC the satam refugees are owned by Sega but I high doubt they'll be in the IDW comic, apparently Sega tried to pull them from the reboot.
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>>94050380
If Ian could wrestle them away from Sega, a new writer might be able to convince them to be allowed. On the other hand, only a super-fan would ever bother pressing the matter.
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>>94050185

I'm holding out hope we get to see Godzilla drop into Sonic's world so Eggman can battle it with a mech until he tags in Super Sonic.
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>>94036634
>Scratch, Grounder
Wait, what? Seriously? I knew about the boys, those guys, but the SSSSS squad gets a nod?
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>>94050493
Gratch, Scrounder and Coconuts were in Mean Bean Machine, so they have official game presence.
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>>94050545
Not canon.
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>>94050545
Sally was in a game too.
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>>94050545
Scratch was also in Sonic Spinball, along with Sally and the other freedom fighters.

That doesn't mean they're anymore likely to get in a NEW game though.
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>>94050596
>>94050545
Mighty hasn't been in a fucking game since Chaotix.
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>>94034660
I prefer Shadow/Rouge, mostly because they get along pretty well
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>>94050545
Doesn't mean Sega will put them in the next comic.
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Odds on IDW reprinting any of the Archie material?

Unless I'm mistaken, they reprinted Archie's TMNT run.

I'm sure we can forget about any pre-boot stuff, but is there hope for reboot reprints?
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>>94049849
So Sonic and Ninja Turtles crossover is pretty much a given?
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>>94050577
Doesn't matter. Sega owns the game so it owns the characters.
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>>94050612
It goes to show how low a priority Sega puts on pleasing long-time fans.
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>>94050622
Agreed.
>That scene in Sonic Battle where Rouge puts Shadow up at her house and comments on how attractive he is while he's sleeping
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>>94050696
I'm pretty sure Sega wants to stay the fuck away from anything Archie.
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>>94050786
'06 laid it on pretty heavy too.
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>>94050734

You say that, but then Team Chaotix were ressurected from the same game.

The reason Mighty was probably left in the dust was because he's basically a Sonic clone, and we already have enough of those... in fact, wasn't Sonic originally going to be in the game, but then it was reskinned as Mighty the last minute?

In any case I feel like pandering to both adventurefags and classicfags at the same time counts as trying to please longtime fags. Don't get mad just because your specific desire was overlooked.
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>>94050622
>>94050786
Posting Superior Shadamy Ship.
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>>94050929
Fucking disgusting
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>>94050929
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>>94050734
Who the fuck even remembers Mighty?
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>>94050912
Chaotix only happened so they could make you play the same levels 4 times. That wasn't any gift to the fans out of the goodness of their hearts.

>In any case I feel like pandering to both adventurefags and classicfags at the same time
No, they're pandering to classicfags, which has been the approach since at least Generations. How is forces Adventurefag pandering?
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>>94050950
>>94050966
Deal with it America!
Deal with it!
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>>94051064
>>94050929
>>94050966
Poor taste like this should be bannable
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>>94051089
were there any snively plushes
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>>94051064
Watch IDW burn the ship to the ground when Shadow gets FANGED
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>>94051155
That's not even that Robotnik.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDcfVFs1Jnc

Why do Sanic fans have a fetish for fat, filthy, smelly feet? Makes me fucking nauseous, even with my autism.
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>>94051221
Im aware dipshit
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>>94051286
Snively sucks, nerd.
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>>94032645
What about Bunny, Dulcy and Lupe?
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>>94051053

So, if Mighty did return for Heroes, he'd be just as much of a blight as the Chaotix? Seems to me Sega's damned if they do and damned if they don't.

As for pandering to adventure fags, you'd have to be literally retarded to not see how they're trying to suck off Adventurefags with Forces.
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>>94051309
eat shit
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>>94051221

If not Robotnik then who?
I've seen this plush and it did seem very off to me.
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>>94051329

if they originated in SatAM, they're Sega property.
and they'll be locked away for all eternity
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>>94051347
>So, if Mighty did return for Heroes, he'd be just as much of a blight as the Chaotix?
I never said I liked either of them. I just think Sega doesn't give a shit about older fans of their series. Chaotix happened because they served a very specific, and kind of shitty purpose of letting them reuse level assets in an already heavily retreaded game. They are an extremely rare exception to Sega acknowledging the series' history beyond Green Hill Zone, not the rule.

>you'd have to be literally retarded to not see how they're trying to suck off Adventurefags with Forces.
It's the "Unleashed" approach if anything.
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>>94050242
They were in the comic that came out before the tv series...pretty sure they are Archie originals. Sally was pink. When the show debuted, I was confused as to why she was brown.
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>>94051514
>pretty sure they are Archie originals.
Then you'd be wrong. They were working with the show's art bible. SatAM did not borrow comic characters, it's the other way around.
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>>94032657
NO PANTIES
O

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>>94050929
>>94051064
Worst ship of all time, even worse than fucking Zutara
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>>94051508

To me it looks like someone tried to turn a bootleg Donkey Kong plush into Robotnik.
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Looking at Pender's twitter I can't help but wonder if his comic could be salvaged if he didn't color it at all, both aesthetically and in time consumption.
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>>94052777
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>>94052777

The coloring is pretty bad but it's only a fraction of what's terrible about his comic.

Also

>looking at Pender's Twitter

Stop giving that mustached ogre the attention he craves.
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>>94052811

>The nose

Damn, you never realize how badly one tiny little detail can make or break a design until someone fucks it up.
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>>94050696
I feel like it'd really be in the best interest to stay away from Archie Sonic stuff.
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IDW ANNOUNCED SONIC COMICS
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>>94049803
>>94049849
Ian Flynn or we riot

Seriously, I've seen Sonic comics without him. People talk about Penders, but Bollers was just as bad. Joe Edkin (Sonic X), Scott Fulop, they're all shit.
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>>94053362
Archie's quality control back in the day is horrendous, but Ian can't write forever and Yardley! and Stanley did fine and it'll be fine to try out a few new ones.
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>>94053458
Famous last words. Nothing we can do about it, but I'm never resigning myself to mediocrity again.
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>>94053543
It's gonna come down to more what the book is allowed to be and do, rather than just one writer on the team. The people Archie had writing back in the day would never be allowed to write what they did under IDW and current SEGA (that will probably watching with a closer eye) and would certainly never be hired.
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>>94032669
That's his daughter you sicko!
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>>94032669
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't he abandon her In a village
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Well, I am disappointed I never got to finish my sonic collection.
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>>94050622
>>94050786
i prefer them as platonic
i like the opposites attract of Rouge and Knuckles, the Anti-HeroxCatsuit of Shadouge is overplayed
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>>94032645
>Gamma
>Not likable
Shit taste
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Where did it all go so wrong /co/?
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>>94054268
Bioware
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>>94050929
is this the birth of Silver?
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>>94053756
He leaves her in the village Kagome stays in and visits now and then.

>>94043826
>>94039540
Dunno if the final act changed the ending from the manga, but she was trapped in her time after everything was done, so she just went back to school. Through the power of love or some bullshit I don't remember she was able to travel back to the past, and she decided to stay there.
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>>94032409
The games have a TON of characters. You really don't need the SatAM cast at all. If the new writers in the IDW comic dig into obscure characters like Ian did for Kukku, there's plenty of villains too.
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>>94046088
The best parts of Archie were how they took the game aspects and adapted them. Even as a kid I didn't like the OCs, I liked seeing their version of Knuckles or Metal Sonic.

Ian was really good at doing this by bringing back long-forgotten game characters. Honey was from the games. The Battle Bird Armada was from the games. Wendy Witchcart was from the games.
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>>94054807
The thing is that unless you dig really deep for some character Sega no longer cares about like Kukku, they kinda have ways they want them to act. Also Sega has to ok said character, which they may not (looking at you Eggman Nega)

Stuff like the SatAM cast gives them a safetynet to fuck about with
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>>94054935
Being from the games doesn't make them good.
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>>94054135

Well get it started, the goal post has stopped moving for good.
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>>94032398
>this nigga even entertaining the thought of someone else bothering to use his OC's after those lawsuits
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>>94050622
>liking ships that make sense
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>>94055401
I bet this idiot gave away all of his rights to the characters as work product so he does not even have a case.

Can someone explain to me this situation? All I've seen is Pender's terrible furry art and how everyone hates him on twitter.
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>>94039658
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>>94055066
>Stuff like the G.U.N. and civilians gives them a safetynet to fuck about with
FTFY
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>>94037497

Actually in the japanese rerelease of Sonic the Fighters has her as a proper unlockable character.

She is more distributed than the Archie characters.
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>>94055066
What exactly is Sega's issue with Neggman?
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>>94046088

I dare you to go down to the Underground and say that.

You will not come back out.
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>>94050359
>>94050189
>Was about to post bitching how no one is asking for IDW to pick up the old staff who have been career sucker-punched.
>Turns out more than half are asking for the Archie guys.
>Turns out aspies really do care.
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>>94055493
>Penders tries to trademark his OC's
>Archie says fuck that and sues him
>Penders claims he owns them since he never signed a contract
>Archie can only produce a copy of said contract that is deemed invalid
>Sega doesn't want to deal with this shit and forces Archie to end nonsense fast
>Archie and Penders settle with Archie dropping all his shit from the book and Penders getting the OC's
>Book nearly gets fucked by losing a huge chunk of the cast in mid-arc but is saved by a well time crossover

>>94055671
>nameless goons
c'mon now

>>94055747
Something about not getting his origin story straight. They haven't settled on him being from Blaze's world or Silver's future
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>>94055493
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>>94055958
Nameless today, recurring tomorrow.
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>>94055597
What's wrong with food analogies?
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>>94039658
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>>94055958
Thanks anon.
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>>94056013
thanks also anon
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>>94055597
Smug anime face needs to be switched with food analogy.
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>>94048755
>>94049166

If you think about Krystal from Star Fox, she was in what? 2 games? and she's like #2 or #3 of the most drawn furry character from a children's thing.

People will just insert the old cast into whatever IDW puts out for their fanficts + their OCs.
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>>94047541
What was the twist?
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>>94056767
Not him, but knowing how Archie Sonic tends to play things, my money is on Eggman sleeper agents/secret bad guys of some sort
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>>94050365
They wont be back, Sega wills it.
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>>94032409
I don't see the big deal
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>You can't make a story without these stand-in characters!
>You can't make different stories with a same cast!
>Why?
>Because different medium!
It's obvioulsy impossible to translate ludic narrative into static visuals no matter how good, sure, but that doesn't mean that this can't be done to plot.
>Sega doesn't allow character development!
Non-canon Generations is essentially them admitting that yes, different versions of the same character can exist and even coexist, which is somehow unacceptable for highlander-mindset fans.
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>>94032409
>we're stuck with Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Eggman,
I can live with that
>and maybe Shadow forever.
Aw hell no
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>>94046444
That he made, and secret code of RAGE of all games. Besthda is a shit
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>>94037497
Reboot her as Blaze's rival.
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>>94056944
>Shadow
>Not Amy
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what year did ken penders start working on comic books? wikipedia doesn't know.
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>>94055294
He didn't say that. He said when they took the game stuff and ADAPTED them. Or are you seriously saying you didn't love the Battlebird Armada or Shard? Both of those are from the games, even if Shard got a new paint job.
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>>94056729
4 games
and the reason why she gets so much art is because her design is 10/10
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>>94057043
I will miss snively so much
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IDW please, I just want Sticks to remain, sacrifice the rest to make it so.
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>>94057023
Pretty early. I'd say around issue 10 or so
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Are all these people saying they're cool with a smaller cast of character, even including less Sega characters, really the kind of people would would even buy a Sonic the Hedgehog comic book?

Seems to me the character interactions are the last thing you people would care about.
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>>94057166

I don't think it was that soon. It definitely had to be after the 20's at least. The series was just a pun filled funnybook until at least issue 25.
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>>94057226
Just checked and it's issue 11
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>>94056829
We'll see.
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>>94032522
Don't anon worry their all in a "better" place now.
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>>94057200
As someone who never watched the cartoon, I never really cared for the non-game characters and most of the important ones I felt could be easily substituted for canon ones.
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Even if they are restricted only to the games and can't make any new OCs (which no one knows, we don't know shit), there's plenty of characters. Off the top of my head:

>Sonic, Tails, Knuckles
>Amy, Cream (+ Cheese and Vanilla), Big (+ Froggy)
>Shadow, Rouge, Omega
>Vector, Charmy, Espio
>Silver, Blaze, Marine
>Jet, Storm, Wave
>Tikal, Chaos
>Mighty, Ray
>Nack, Bark, Bean, Honey
>G.U.N. Commander
>Gemerl
>Shahra
>Professor Pickle and Chip
>Elise

As for villains:
>Eggman and Metal Sonic
>Eggman Nega in theory, Sega seems to have something against him though.
>Black Arms
>Infinite
>Deadly Six
>Captain Whisker and Johnny
>Void
>Wendy Witchcart and her crew
>Battle Bird Armada
>Dark Gaia
>Time Eater
>Mephiles

I'm sure I've missed some. There's a fuckton. And again, we don't even know if they can't make new OCs.
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>>94057389
Haven't we seen the list of Sega's stipulations?
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>>94057440
The only one I know is out of date because Gemerl was on the off-limits list, but he was in the comic recently.
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>>94032398
I don't know anything about the comics, but OP's image is cute and reminded me of the Team Rose song from Sonic Heroes which was actually preformed by Kay Hanley from the band Letters To Cleo.
https://youtu.be/Nhp4fT8iyS8
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>>94056944
More like MEOW the Edge.
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>>94057389
Can't use Mephiles and unless another Unleashed arch happens, I don't see Chip or Dark Gaia showing up.
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>>94038211
>>94038427

The promo comic should feel like a 0 since it's his first appearance.

>actual FALL in the left hand corner and not the ADVERTISEMENT version
>great condition

Nice, I'm looking hard for one but they're either poor condition or the seller is asking too much.
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>>94057200
>Seems to me the character interactions are the last thing you people would care about.
Have you heard of such a beautiful interaction called "rivalry"? Maybe you saw it in "specials" and "milestones". Who needs that anyway, let's cram another "development story" that just estamishes status quo in the end.

Sonic should be treated as a shounen.
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So whar ate the chances that the extended radio silence on all of this was due to Sega negotiating with Archie to basically pick up the current run and plop it down in IDW, as well as stuff for reprints? cause the announcement straight up said itll do old stories too. not to mention that it'd be basically just picking up where it was left off both reader/fan base and story wise.
i mean IDW already did something like that with the old Marvel TF stories. and id imagine SEGA would want to basically pick up where it left off but in more secure hands
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>>94057085
Adventures, Assault, Command, ???
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>>94057598
and 643D
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>>94050545
Even before Bean Machine, they were in Sonic 2

Coconuts was in Emerald Hill, Grounder in Aquatic Ruin, and Scratch in Wing Fortress manning turrets.
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>>94057574
>Sonic should be treated as a shounen.
YES
THANK YOU
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS
it allows for the self aware ribbing and comedy that so many people seem fond of out of the series lately, but allows it to take itself seriously enough to be cool and fun in that butt rock kind of way like in SA2
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>>94057574
Am I the only one who sees it?
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>>94057609
Those were just random badniks you idiots. That's like saying those E-series robots in SA2 were Gamma.
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>>94057795
You're not getting those characters. Let it go. There are plenty of game characters to use
>>94057389
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>>94057856
I don't know how you got me wanting those characters out of that post. Fix your reading comprehension.
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>>94057911
The other anon pointed out what the AoSTH robots were based off of. Those are fine, we don't need their cartoon counterparts.
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>>94057574
>Sonic should be treated as a shounen.
Yep. This. It's the perfect balance.
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>>94054650
>>94039540
>>94043826

I think it was more something like

>It would be creepy if this 16 year old runs off to marry him and never sees her family again, better wait until she is 18 so its a little more kosher

I dont even know how 2+ years didnt pass during the entirety of the anime/manga tho

We are supposed to think all that shit happened in a few months?
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>>94057574
>Sonic as a shounen

I didn't know I wanted this.
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>>94032409
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>>94057381

That doesn't really answer the question. Would you

>>94057574
>using shonen as an example

What the fuck, shonene anime have fucking huge casts of characters, I certainly haven't seen on that only has four main characters and one single villain that never gets swapped out.
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>>94057389

You haven't played very many Sonic games lately. They don't want you to remember 2/3 of those characters.

Only Aaron Webber is allowed to reference those characters, and only if it's in a self depreciating way.
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>>94034047
who drew this shit? a 5 year old?
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>>94058623
Only Aaron Webber is allowed to reference those characters, and only if it's in a self depreciating way.

Because they're shit, and only the autists in this thread want them back.
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>>94058623
>Aaron Webber

Should I know who that is?
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>>94032563
Yes, but they're legitimately racist towards anything not made by their personal Japanese staff and have lately been going the NSMB-route of homogenization.

Not to say IDW can't acknowledge what the fans like and suggest it to SEGA. Afterall the SatAM characters got fucking official 3D renders thanks to the comics' insistence.
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>>94032409
WHY U NO MENTION BLAZE
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>>94058868

He's the funnyman making all of Sonic's social media posts, and Egoraptor's personal cock sleeve.
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>>94050436

Better yet, take Sonic out of the equation and just have Godzilla and a few allies face off against every Monster of the Month from the Adventure era.
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>>94058623
If Archie could dig into super obscure characters like Honey without Sega throwing a fit, IDW can too. There is literally no reason to think otherwise.
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>>94050436
IDW lost the rights to Godzilla when they started making new movies.
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>>94032645
>Archie gave them personalities
Ian Flynn did that. He's not "Archie", hell everyone working on that comic was a freelancer. He could just as easily return for IDW.
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>>94059553

It's not a matter of what IDW wants to do so much as it is what Sega permits them to do.

>>94059574
I thought they announced a new Godzilla title very recently?
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>>94035249
But none of SEGA's characters are a cowboy rabbit-cyborg chick, a french swordfighter or a digital woman's memories.
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>IDW gets the comics
If it's just the game's cast, no thank you.

The freedom fighters are great characters. They rounded out the cast and made it a servicable property to do stories with.
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>>94059694

He did bring out the untapped potential of a lot of characters more than inventing personalities for them.

Though he did invent Bean and Bark's personalities, and making them a Crazy person and Silent Bob always rubbed me the wrong way.
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>>94057605
she's in that?
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http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Ken_Penders%27_legal_cases
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>>94059764
no, it's her mensuration.
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>>94050702
And horse.
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>>94059707
They tried to build interest to get Toho back on board.
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>>94059064
She's just a background character now, she isn't really worth mentioning. Would be cool if she did become relevant again, and >>94056944 is a nice idea.
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>>94035249
>>94044368
I think the SatAM characters should not be in the comics, but "they don't bring anything new" is a pretty shitty fucking argument.

They can be well-written or even slightly entertaining (see reboot Rotor) but many of them are not, they're held back as unfun, one-dimensional artifacts of their existence. Flynn has even tried to make them interesting through these backstories and the like and while I applaud his effort, it just doesn't work too well, because their base personalities are nothing substantial. Outside of Rotor and Antoine, they all kind of blend into each other.
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>>94059970
Bunnie and Sally were interesting.
>>
I want Flynn back as a Writer but I sure do hope Yardly doesn't return.

I always hated how everyone had gigantic thick brows and weird mouths in their style.
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>>94059970
There was only so much Flynn could ever do because these characters and their universe were all already fleshed out so much. But if they are in the new comics then there has never been a better time to try to accomplish what Flynn attempted than with a new publisher and what I'm sure will be a new continuity; they can do a complete overhaul of the characters with whatever backstories they want. Of course a complete overhaul is not always a good thing and it doesn't seem likely they'll be in the new comics at all, but even if it is wishful thinking I think that is a possibility worth throwing out there.
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>>94059998
The way I see it, your character is either "interesting" (say, Shinji from Evangelion), or "fun" (think Joseph Joestar). Interesting characters aren't always fun, and fun characters aren't always interesting. Either half will appeal to an audience however, and a truly fantastic character will be both interesting and fun.

I think Bunnie, Sally, and Nicole were interesting, but they weren't very fun to read, because their personalities didn't stand out too well. Sally has some goofy moments but more often then not she's spewing exposition and just kind of going along with the plot. Bunnie has a funny accent but only really talks to her boyfriend and doesn't do anything enjoyable of note.

The majority of the Sonic characters in the games were likable because they were "fun" personalities, not because they were interesting, and this carries over to the comics, with Sonic's snarky attitude, Cream's kindness, Shadow's stoic behavior. Many of the more loved OCs and recycle bin characters in the Archie Sonic reboot are "fun" characters in that they aren't super interesting, but they're enjoyable to read, such as Honey, Von Schlemmer, and Thunderbolt. I think it's crucial that with the Sonic comics, any new OCs (and there will be some, no doubt) should be consistently enjoyable to read first and foremost, and then their backstories and more multifaceted aspects of their personalities come later, if that makes sense.
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>>94037746
boy, dosent that say something about sonic
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>>94059707
Anon, again, Sega had no problem with Archie digging into those characters, even post reboot with Honey. There is LITERALLY no reason to think they'd stop IDW.
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Someone please stop him! He's killing me!
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>>94060311
>1 Like

Why?
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>>94060311
Does he actually think ANYONE will hire him after the shit-fit he started? Oh you beautifully idiotic man-child.
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>>94060311
There is absolutely no reason anybody is going to hire a liability like him.
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>>94060311
>I'm willing to negotiate with IDW to use my characters
Everyone laughs
>I don't want to work with them anyway!
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So why did the sonic comics end?
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>>94050972
Ray the Flying Squirrel remembers.
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>>94060311
He knows he's blacklisted, right?
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>>94060469
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/sthg/? Hey, /sthg/. HEY /sthg/!
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>>94059553
Honey is a game character.
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>>94060517

If he does, he's probably in denial about it.
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>>94060541
What?!
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>>94060671
Nice game series.
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>>94060589

I think that's what he's saying mang.

Though Honey is like THE most obscure character from a game. At least Ray actually appeared in his one game. Honey was dummied out content people only knew about because they datamined the GC version of her game (until she finally got added as a secret character in the PS3/360 port years and years down the line)
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>>94060701
thx, fatass
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>>94060311
I swear he's doing this on purpose. Like he knows it's all asinine but it gets him the attention.
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>>94060636
I fear he isn't and he actually believes this.
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>>94032398
Good. It was hard looking at what it had become over the years post Sonic Adventure. It lost its soul long ago, and now its shambling corpse has been put to rest.
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>>94060311
>IDW-senpai pls notice me, you B-BAKA
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>>94061101
The comics lost its soul post-SA1?
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>>94055401
He's...he's really buttblasted about this, huh
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>>94060311
>>94060392
>the 1 like has a Tails avatar
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>>94037497
>>94056944
>>94059553
>>94060589
>>94060709
I think one important thing that people are forgetting is that Honey the Cat is just a Sonic version of Honey from Fighting Vipers (another Sega property). I would wonder if that could ever have any potential problems or not.
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>>94060522
Someone post the full comic please.
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>>94061292
Eh, it's all Sega, so I don't imagine there would be an issue.
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>>94061375
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>>94061292
I don't see why there would be problems if its a SEGA property.
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>>94061382
>>94061427
Obviously not from a copyright standpoint or anything like that, but I more mean because Sega has all those crazy mandates.
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>>94057440
most of those stipulations were punishments Archie was given by SEGA after the "Crying Sonic" incident(and SEGA subsequently realizing how badly Archie had been shitting the bed during Ken Penders' years on the comic), with more being given to them as a result of Ken Penders suing them, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if only a handful of those remain with IDW now in charge of the license

>>94057200
honestly I'd say those people are morons
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>>94061523
>the "Crying Sonic" incident
Tell me more
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>>94061657
Story goes that Sega was very hands-off with the comic series and hadn't even bothered to read anything from it.
Someone from Sega happened to see this cover, and started investigating what the hell they were doing with their characters.
Afterward Sega began giving Archie mandates on how the characters can behave, and what type of stories they're not allowed to do.
ex.
>Sonic can shed tears in emotional moments, but no full on breakdowns and crying rivers in a gutter.
>No romance or love triangles with the game characters: Amy crushes on Sonic but it's one-sided. Antoine and Bunnie can still be married
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>>94061794
left: draft that was drawn before Sega stepped in
right: what was published after mandates started
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>>94032398
IDW is the best possible publisher. They've done a decent job with properties like TMNT, and between all the properties they own and the ones publishers like DC owns, there's a lot of crossover potential, even if the main book doesn't do so well. The Flash? Looney Tunes? Ghostbusters? Transformers?
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>>94061818
Agreed, I think it'll do well under them and I think people shouldn't be so hung up on some characters they may or may not be able to use.
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>>94061810
By the way the context for this image is a "Mobius 25 Years Later" story, in which Sonic is normally King and married to Sally with two kids. The timeline is altered by time travel stuff, and as a result Sally is married to Shadow, who is an oppressive warmonger, and Sonic's children have been erased from existence.
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So who else wants IDW to get the Mega Man license now?
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>>94061810
So wait, the new creative team with Ian as the writer started up BEFORE Sega noticed issue 155 and gave out the mandates? If so, that sucks. It means that Ian had to pay the price for something he was already trying to fix, and just hindered him and the comic for nothing.

>>94061955
Which wasn't how that story was supposed to go at all. It was Ian's take on what Ken left open of his 25 Years Later arc. I'm always going to have morbid curiosity about how that was going to end.

>>94062020
It can happen, but it'll take time. Maybe even a few years.
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>>94055958
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but Penders claimed he had his contract but failed to produce it, right? The issue was that Archie could only produce a copy of the contract, but in light of Penders never producing said contract shouldn't any court rule in favor of Archie?
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>>94061955
That seems like a pretty legitimate reason to be having a breakdown...
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>>94039799
id watch a cartoon with old amy rather than modern
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>>94062073
Agreed but...he's Sonic. He's the hero of the story. Life throws him a curveball and knocks him off his horse he should get back up and eat that horse. Not shut down and wait for something to happen instead of doing something about it himself.
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>>94062086
Boom Amy is great though.
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>>94057200
Megadrive's sales should give you your answer.
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>>94062132
First to get a second printing, IIRC.

I would honestly be shocked if a chunk of Mega Drive's style isn't incorporated in the new IDW book.
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>>94062073
Yeah, but the way SEGA sees it, it's not in Sonic's nature to break down & sob.

>>94062132
Anon, Mega Drive's sales were only better than the main comic for the first issue.

>>94062086
Modern > Classic, fite me Although they're both cute.
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>>94062163
>First to get a second printing, IIRC.

That was because of hype then the next issue dropped to average sales of the other books, showing that it was mostly comic regulars buying it, not games-only fags.

>>94062188
>Anon, Mega Drive's sales were only better than the main comic for the first issue.

That was my point.
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>>94057043
I read that in Mike's voice.
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>>94060311
Jesus Christ what is wrong with this man? IDW wouldn't touch him with a 5 foot pole after how he practically killed Archie inside and out hell no comic book company would want him.
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>>94060441
Didn't one of his posts say he didn't want IDW using his fanfic oc's?
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>>94062241
More specifically he said they wouldn't be getting access to his characters for free, as if they wanted his characters, but he could work something out.
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>>94062123
The on and off moments between Sonic and Amy have been gold. Amy has a goddamn Sonic sex doll, you can't get any better than that.
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Who are these past creators who lost their jobs he keeps bringing up and were they even any good?
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>>94060311
My god, it's actually real. He seems to think that everyone's desperate to get the rights to use his characters.

Also, what's this about some kind of Lara Su app? He's been posting promotional images of his OCs for years but I'm still not sure what exactly is he supposed to be creating. Is it still a comic or something else?
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>>94062326
Himself. No.
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>>94062336
In four years after announcing that abomination the only thing he had to show for it was he reworked the word Echidna into something more alien.
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>>94062326
None of them lost their job, they just moved on, unlike him.
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>>94062188
>Yeah, but the way SEGA sees it, it's not in Sonic's nature to break down & sob.
I don't think they're wrong at all, those panels are just downright bizarre.
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>>94062326
There were a few decent artists in the book's early years. Most were mediocre though.

Can someone post that pic of Sonic drawn by every artist that worked on the book?
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>>94062116
You can break down and recover from it. It's entirely possible to show excess emotion while still taking action. The action of breaking down can even serve to make the character's following actions have more drive and conviction.

That's just my take on it, anyways. I get that SEGA sees it differently and that they're trying to sell an icon.
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>>94062326
Karl Bollers sided with him eventually in the whole lawsuit thing, and Penders got Bollers to bitch to Archie too. It's why Mina isn't in the reboot. Not much of a loss, I'll admit, but there's your answer.
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>>94062277
What.
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>>94062361
Sonic is the opposite of Steven Universe. No crying allowed.
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>>94062452
>>94062482
That's a good pic, but it doesn't do justice to hearing Amy's nervous laugh. And seeing who ends up with the doll.

https://www. dailymotion.com/video/x5rwfrg
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>>94056767
>>94056813
No, that's just what the comic sets you up to think. In reality they oppose both sides, and are genuinely terrified of the freedom fighters. For pretty good reason too.
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>>94062635
They were cowards who would've rather the world "get by" under Eggman's rule, all the while pretending to be freedom fighters. Eventually they were going to get their shit pushed in, and I'm disappointed we won't get to see that now.
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>>94034717
It's the perfect culmination of everything hilarious and great about modern sonic. it's fucking sonic dreams, but for realsies.
I'm delighted honestly.
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>>94052777
why did i do this
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>>94062861
its better, it lost a huge chunk of creppyness
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>>94062861
That's a big improvement. Makes it look closer to the old Archie style. I guess that's why he's drawing those fucked up mouths in the first place.
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>>94063097
Those mouths are so gross with that weird snout. Then the cartoony eyes with the ultra realistic hands... it's just so bad. Why would you ignore appeal this much?
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>>94062410
RIP in peace, furry Minmei.
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>>94062336
>>94062353
What's sad is that Penders and Boilers had some pretty cool concepts and characters that will now never get any respectful treatment because of Penders' autism.
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>>94062326
>Not getting any more freelance gigs once you stop submitting them to the company is the same as the abrupt cessation of your gig with no info about it for half a year.

If he gave half a shit about any of the creators, he'd be linking ways to support them. Their current projects, contact info, Patreons, etc. Has anyone called him out on that?
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>People still perpetuating the myth that Sega gave a single shit about #155 and new mandates came about from it when Ian expressly stated the stuff he had to work around was in place well before he started at Archie and he was working for them around the 140s.

You fuckers never think about the bullshit you spread.
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>>94063324
So much wasted potential.
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>>94063756
Damn, that gives me flashbacks to being a kid.
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