DC @ SDCC discussion

Panel list
http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2017/07/17/san-diego-comic-con-2017-the-complete-list-of-dc-panels

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>>94013584

>>94013663
Jesus Christ Eel, chill out

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I really hope the Mr Terrific, Plastic Man, Metamorpho, [LADY] team is going to be some kind of Fantastic Four-esque crazy adventure book.

Really glad the Challengers are back.

Wonder if we'll get at least some concepts on the new DC Superhero Girls. I'm sure they'll tweak the design a bit like they did with the Monster High relaunch.

>>94013877
>Mr T = Mr Fantastic
>Plas = Torch
>Metamorpho = Thing
>[LADY] = Invisible Woman

D-did Lemire leave Marvel because he wanted to write F4 and realised they had no plans to bring em back?

Also thank god this is a smaller scale team, it has a SLIGHT chance of not being completely team-Lemire

>>94013584
How the heck this line is going to sell with these characters?

>>94014068
Creator teams.

It's obv their Marvel/shadowline imprint. The terrific metas are xmen.

>>94014068
The teams are the driving force

JR Jr on Silencer
Rocafort on Sideways
Lee on Immortal Men
Kubert on Challengers
Reis on Lemires book
Daniels on Damage

They announced a bunch of statues. Jessica Cruz Bombshells, Cloonan designed Batman, Ricken designed Red Hood and some other shit.

I wish I wasn't poor.

>>94013853
Let him get a good look of that ass

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>>94013663
Phantom Girl?

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>>94014699
MFD

>>94013584
do we know who's the smoky lava guy between Sideways and the Silencer?
I'll assume the big guy behind them is Damage

>>94013584
>Mr Terrific, Plastic Man, Metamorpho and either Phantom Girl or Tomorrow Woman
Look at Metamorpho's Belt? This is gonna be a team that Terrific puts together. Post team name guesses.

>>94013584
>>DC has a new figure line out to replace Icons, called Essentials
>>promo shots look awful but shots of them from SDCC floor look pretty good
Fellow /toy/ soldier

>>94015035
Terrific Four

>>94015051
>>94013584
Refresh my memory. Icons was only 6" tall, right?

>>94015035
Terrific Tetra

>>94014965
Smokey is damage. Big guy is duke.

I guess one of the characters in a team gets a solo.

>>94015035
>>94013877
>>94013959
the Terrific Four :)
>Phantom Girl as the disappearing gal (Sue)
>Mr Terrific as the smart guy (Reed)
>Plas as the funny guy (Johnny, with Reed's powers)
>Metamorpho as the angsty ugly guy (Ben)

considering the Challengers will also get a series, DC might end up with two F4-like titles... two more than Marvel

>>94015035
Why are Metamorpho and Plas on the same team

>>94015067
>>94015202
>Terrific Four

that would be elder god-tier trolling
MAKE IT HAPPEN, DC!

>>94015202
Marvel has two in one.


DC also has a FF knock off trio on earth 8. Cyborg Suoerman had a team and is their Reed. Earth 7 had two ultimate FF Knock offs.

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>>94015190
>Smokey is damage. Big guy is duke.
Completely wrong. The big guy is Damage.

>>94015091
Yeah. They started up scaling as the line was dying, I think. New ones are gonna be 6.75 inch.

>>94015289
That's what I had seen. I only ask because the Superman head looks great, if it was considering taking it and putting it on the Icons body.
Nevermind though. I'll just keep the Icons Batman, and surround him with a League of Essentials. Like Son like Father after all.

>>94015284
Ok smokey is the last guy to get a solo. Not duke.

>>94014892
Yep. Lemire has a big boner for LoS. Which is a shame since he can't write teams for shit.

>>94013584
Fantastic Four = challengers
Sideways=Spiderman
Damage =Hulk.
Silencer =ironman
Immortals = inhumans.
terrific group=Xmen. Meta gene n shit.

Reminder that Phantom Girl sort of* has a present day ancestor and it could be that chick (Phase) instead.

*I think originally it was supposed to be Tinya but then LoSH rebooted while LEGION/REBELS did not so it was turned into an ancestor. But then they connected her back to being a part of Phantom Girl, who was revealed to be part-Carggite with her selves separated at birth.

>>94015538
Post nu52/rebirth it doesn't exist.

It's most likely either her or a new ancestor.

>>94015602
The LEGION team doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean the ancestor can't. It could still be her, doesn't have to be a new one.

>>94015635
I thought legion existed post flashpoint. It's obv not phase.

Too confusing.

>>94015720
LoSH and LEGION are not the same thing. LoSH is the team from the 31st century. LEGION is the team run by Brainiac's son that has not been introduced since Flashpoint happened.

I don't think a present day ancestor is too confusing in concept. Just have to avoid all the switches. I just offered the guess though because I don't think they'd put actual Phantom Girl on a team just to pull her out when the LoSH teases finish up. Though maybe they don't expect the book to last too long anyway.

Could also be Doctor Light though I think they'd keep the headpiece if it was.

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>>94015831
That's not what I meant. L.e.g.i.o.n still exists.

>>94015885
Fair enough, hadn't seen in the stuff I read. I guess we'll see though.

>>94013584
>Tom King has a 100 issue run planned for Batman


Man, King is going become one of the most hated writers in the industry by the time he's done.

>>94016109
>Man, King is going become one of the most hated writers in the industry by the time he's done.
Only by Baby's First Batman Snyder autists. He's doing fine.

>>94015986
Only Dox and phase don't exist. Dox is now just another evil brainiac Id.

Phase would require Phnatom girl going back to the past. But post infinite Chris that was erased. Other Phantom girls don't have the split powers.

It's obivous they're gonna do soft reboot of losh again.

>>94013584
>100 issue run
So 50 issues of Janin's shitty art?

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>>94016181
>muh "only Snyderfags hate King" strawman

>>94016252
Nah, Janins not on the next arc

>>94016181
As someone who didn't like Snyder's run, I hate King's run too. King is just doubling down on Snyder's action hero stuff.

>>94015885
Wiki article is inaccurate, that was not the real Stealth but rather some chick with the same name. A L.E.G.I.O.N. ship did however indeed show up in Larfleeze so they are at least semi-canon. And fully canon in my heart.

>>94016484
Not fully.

>>94016504
I believe in them, therefore they are.

How many panels DC going to have today?

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>>94016562

>>94016586
Thursday, 7/20/17


DC Meet the Publishers
2:00p.m. - 3:00p.m.
Room: 6DE

DC’s Publishers are back in San Diego and better than ever! Dan DiDio and Jim Lee are the driving forces behind DC Universe Rebirth, Vertigo, MAD, DC’s YOUNG ANIMAL, DARK MATTER and much more. This up-close-and-personal panel gives you unique access to the leaders of your favorite comic book line!

Spotlight on Geoff Johns
3:15p.m. - 4:15p.m.
Room: 6DE

The superstar DC writer, President & Chief Creative Officer returns to San Diego for an all-access and in-depth discussion. Be here for this exclusive panel that will give you insight to one of the genre’s most influential people. With the upcoming Doomsday Clock, there will be much to cover!

Mad about MAD
4:30p.m. - 5:30p.m.
Room: 8

MAD, the country’s #1-selling humor magazine (in a field of 1), is dumber than ever! Join MAD Magazine editor John Ficarra and art director Sam Viviano for a ridiculous peek at what’s happening at the magazine, and an epically, moronic Q&A that’s bound to be, well, MAD! (Prizes will be awarded for most moronic questions!)

DC Art Masters: Drawing DC
5:00p.m. - 6:00p.m.
Room: 11

Class is in session as some of the greatest artists in the industry take this panel to school with an in-depth look at their creative process! DC Entertainment is proud to spotlight these talented individuals for this exclusive, all-access look at what it’s like drawing DC!

DC – Too Tough Trivia or Stump the Writers
6:00p.m. - 7:00p.m.
Room: 5AB

Think you know everything from Crisis on Infinite Earths to Flashpoint to Rebirth? Come by and test your knowledge of the DC Universe from its inception all the way to Dark Days against DC’s finest minds to win some exclusive prizes!

>>94016599
Oh thanks, anon.

>>94016599
>DC – Too Tough Trivia or Stump the Writers
>6:00p.m. - 7:00p.m.
>Room: 5AB
>Think you know everything from Crisis on Infinite Earths to Flashpoint to Rebirth? Come by and test your knowledge of the DC Universe from its inception all the way to Dark Days against DC’s finest minds to win some exclusive prizes!

wonder how many autists on /co/ could ace this

>>94016599
>Spotlight on Geoff Johns
>3:15p.m. - 4:15p.m.
>Room: 6DE
>The superstar DC writer, President & Chief Creative Officer returns to San Diego for an all-access and in-depth discussion. Be here for this exclusive panel that will give you insight to one of the genre’s most influential people. With the upcoming Doomsday Clock, there will be much to cover!

Oh baby

>>94016599
Meet The Publishers and Johns seem to be the only panels worth the time today

>Dan DiDio and Jim Lee are the driving forces behind DC Universe Rebirth
Lies

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>>94013584
Let's do this DChads!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWm_u7MvdfA&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTnSWaJaOPQ

>>94016683
I'm pretty sure most of this board could put DC writers to shame with that

>>94016683
/co/ doesn't read comics.

>>94016734
>>94016815

Who do I believe?

>>94016599
and Friday, 7/21/17

>DC Universe Rebirth
11:15a.m. - 12:15p.m.
Room: 6DE

>DC Universe Rebirth has taken the industry by storm. The universe has been restored with hope and optimism, engaging storylines and dynamic characters. Come discover more about your favorite DC super heroes, plus hear from the talented teams bringing these stories to life!

>DC Metal/ Dark Matter
>1:45p.m. - 2:45p.m.
>Room: 6DE

>The team behind DARK NIGHTS: METAL, Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo, are here to talk about comic’s hottest event! They are joined by DARK MATTER contributors Steve Orlando, Phillip Tan, James Tynion IV, Robert Vendittiand othersin this revealing hour of comics!

>Vertigo: Creator Spotlight
>3:00p.m. - 4:00p.m.
>Room: 6DE

>Comics’ most innovative imprint puts the creator in the spotlight! Come witness the evolution of Vertigo, as we glimpse back at the rich history, and peek forward to some of the incredible things to come. The star-studded lineup features Academy Award winner John Ridley with a few huge surprise guests!

>DC From Page to Screen
>4:15p.m. - 5:15p.m.
>Room: 6DE

>Never before has DC been more popular in TV, video games, home videos, and movie theaters. And with an impressive film slate and countless shows in series and production, it has never been a better time to be a DC fan! Join the people behind the scenes that translate the page to the screen on this must see panel that sees your favorite stories and characters come to life!

>DC’s Young Animal
>5:30p.m. - 6:30p.m.
>Room: 5AB

>Be here as we delve further into the world of DC’s YOUNG ANIMAL, the DC imprint led by MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE frontman and best selling comic writer, Gerard Way (Doom Patrol), with many of his top notch collaborators including Cecil Castellucci and Marley Zarcone (Shade, the Changing Girl), Jody Houser (Mother Panic), Jon Rivera (Cave Carson Has A Cybernetic Eye) and others.

>>94013584
Not sold on Lemire writing a team book at all. What the fuck is wrong with DC?

>DC announces a bunch of shit no one cares about or will buy in a desperate attempt to make it to the end of the year

>>94013584
Is there a countdown timer for all the DC panels?

>>94016881
>with an impressive film slate
what slate? there's 2 movies maybe three

>>94016881
>DARK MATTER contributors Steve Orlando

hmm Orlando hasn't had a Dark Matter announcement yet, right?
I have absolutely no hope he will write anything decent

>>94017170
Orlando really needs a plotter

>>94017170
He's fine when he's doing 90s edge and gay stuff so if it's not-Midnighter it'll probably be ok

>>94017170
Good shout
Midnighter again? It'd line up with Dark Matter

>>94017200
And a scripter

>>94017200
I hope you meant scripter

>94017102
Shoo shoo

No jsa or powergirl kms

>>94017225
>>94017223
Probably. English is hard and it's late

>>94017102
You have no power over here Draxposter!!

The girl on the team isn't going to have invisibility powers, she'll be an elemental, Mr. Terrific with his invisible-to-tech technology will cover the Sue Storm role.

>>94016726
That Fabok Trinity statue is gorgeous. Might need to step out of the exclusively figure game.

>>94017306
Metamorpho is the elemental but also the disgusting monster

>>94016881
>Comics’ most innovative imprint puts the creator in the spotlight! Come witness the evolution of Vertigo, as we glimpse back at the rich history, and peek forward to some of the incredible things to come. The star-studded lineup features Academy Award winner John Ridley with a few huge surprise guests!
Just announce more American Vampire you fucks. I don't give a shit about nu Vertigo otherwise.

>>94013663
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE ACTUAL LoSH BOOK DC?

>>94015202
>two not!Fantastic Four books
>not four not!Fantastic Four books
Step it the fuck up, DC!

>>94016562
>>94016588

Only in Hypertime.

>>94017369
So Terrific is Reed with Sue's powers, Plas is Johnny with Reed's powers, Metamorpho is Ben with Johnny's powers, does that make the girl Sue with Ben's powers?

>>94017373
They will come to use and it shall be glorious
hopefully

>>94016311
To be fair, how much of that is because DC editorial/WB higher-ups demand it? I can totally see them looking at NolanBats and MorrisonBats' popularity, only seeing the surface level and deciding that "people want Batman to be high stakes, big set piece action all the time!"

>>94017478
The Conner Terra maybe?

>>94017373
Doomsday Clock my man

>>94017373
Anything post doomsday clock will be titles for Js,Legion,Shazam, NewGods.

I guess doomsday clock has to reveal how it was. I can expect Johns on the Justice society again.

>>94017102
That's marvel.

>>94017562
New Gods are already getting Mr Miracle and a bunch of one shots. How much more do they need?

>>94017510
Action BatMan is nothing new.

>>94016726
The Superman/Flash and trinity statues are both really fucking cool looking. I hide my powerlevel pretty hard and move pretty often so I don't buy collectables like that at all, but fuck those look great

>>94017170
He's pretty good at edgy stuff so a Dark Matter book should be fine

>>94017596
Actual new gods with Orion as lead.

>>94017515
It's phantom lady. Somehow she went to past and got stuck.

that's totes Phantom Girl

>>94017697
>phantom lady
Your casual is showing.

>>94017697
Lass you meant. But the summer is melting brains.

>>94016881
>Vertigo Spotlight

Seems kind of weird to do this when they're trying to hype up their two new imprints. If Vertigo weren't a flailing imprint, I'd bet that all of those Young Animal/Dark Matter books would've just been Vertigo books

>>94017720
>Lass you meant
Your casuak is showing too.

That also looks like Equinox next to Mr Terrific and I don't see how she's in someone other than Lemire's book

>>94017697
M8 Phantom Lady and Phantom Girl aren't the same character. Phantom Lady is in the Freedom Fighters.

>>94017720
this one might be bait though

>>94017754
The art is different. If it's her she's not in the Terrific book. Maybe he'll write two though.

>>94017723
I think DC has been trying to make Vertigo their version of Image for a long time now, completely disconnected from the DCU and making it creator owned, but with a page rate.
The Young Animal and Dark Matter stuff is supposed to be in the DCU

>>94017596
>>94017655
>>94017596
Idk. I'm on the opposite side of this. New Gods are great but I'd rather only see them once in a blue moon for big things going down. I blame this mindset on Grant Morrison, but I'd really rather that be the case than some dull on-going by Didio that everyone gets bored of after 5 issues.

>>94017562
>>94017551
Have they already announced Doomsday Clock is going to have books coming out of it or is that just speculation? I don't keep up with announcements too well

Tinya went by Phantom Woman in the adult LoSH stuff, while we're here.

>>94017774
>The art is different.
Not really? Still obviously Reis, and she's wearing the same colors as Terrific and Plastic Man.

>>94017803
Johns said those books are coming. All 4 require history and rejiggering.

Just don't expect preflashpoint jsa.

>>94013663
Similarities to Tinya:
>Same hair colour
>Same colour palette as various versions
>Belt, bare arms and gloves similar to pre-zh/retroboot
>black area on costume mirrors cut out on pre-zh/retroboot

>>94017803
I want that too. New Gods were overexposed and watered down in the 90s when they had a couple of ongoings, and that too by shitty writers like Byrne.

>>94017803
>New Gods are great but I'd rather only see them once in a blue moon for big things going down
Agreed.
>Have they already announced Doomsday Clock is going to have books coming out of it or is that just speculation?
Saturn Girl and Johnny Thunder were in the Rebirth one shot and they haven't appeared since so it's highly probable the JSA and LOSH is returning in Doomsday Clock. We also haven't seen Shazam at all so...

>>94017834
Doesn't really look like Reis to me and she's scaled improperly. She also doesn't match the others in costume, which makes no sense considering her first costume would have.

>>94017756
>>94017747
Dudes having brain farts.

Only post crisis fans are causals.

There is a rumor that the artists of the Dark Matter line are only staying for 3 issues. Holy shit, seriously? Not even for a whole story arc? It's like DC wants this to fail.

>>94017937
Saturn Girl has appeared in Batman and Emerald Empress is doing something in Supergirl, but she only gets one page each issue so it's developing incredible slow

>>94017790
kek. Considering American Vampire's history of starting strong and never actually finishing, I think they've can definitely mimic Image easily enough.

Seems like they just haven't been sure what to do with Vertigo the last 10 years or so, but trying to make it solely creator owned stuff might be cool.
But yeah, that makes sense with YA being loosely in-continuity and DM definitely being in-continuity with some grit.
>>94017914
>>94017937
Oh neat, thanks.
I'm glad he said something about cleaning those titles up but that's what was so frustrating about New 52 and Rebirth both. These half-reboots really fuck over a lot of characters

>>94017916
And the pieces in her hair look like what she had in the animated series

>>94017937
>Saturn Girl and Johnny Thunder were in the Rebirth one shot and they haven't appeared since

They were both in The Button

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>>94016726
>That white eyed Wonder Woman

>>94017948
What?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Girl

>>94017937
Shazam appeared in a photo in his preflashpoint form in Superwoman

>>94017966

I think the next Supergirl arc is Emerald Empress and her new Fatal Five.

>>94017944

yeah terrific has them in outfits, look at the T on Metamorpho's belt

>>94017958
Where did you see that? Seems like it would defeat the purpose of this being an art driven line.

>>94017958
Doesn't matter. None of them were really great to begin with.

>>94017944
>Doesn't really look like Reis to me
It's 100% Reis. Just compare her to the other three--it's the same damn art.

>She also doesn't match the others in costume
Except that she does. She's literally wearing black and white like them.

>>94017966
>>94017983
>>94018019
Yeah, I fucked up.

>>94017977
Blame low sales and warner bros for preflashpoint. The Js will be a covert group with Thunder wishing away characters post war.


Me, I personally don't care.

>>94018044
>I think the next Supergirl arc is Emerald Empress and her new Fatal Five.
I'd rather Orlando didn't

>>94018068
I can't blame you, nobody reads Superwoman

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>>94018058
This is the character he's talking about, dumbo.

>>94018058
I think we're mixed up? I'm talking about the blue and black girl with the paint across her nose not >>94013663. She seems too pale to be Equinox though.

>>94018050
The whole thing gives me a 90s Image vibe, except for New Challengers.

>>94018011
Why are you quoting me, I quoted the other anon to other Anons.


Besides most post crisis fans never read pre85 books.

>>94018121
>The JSA doesn't work with history and legacy
Isn't history and legacy kinda their deal?

>>94016726
>Teeth: the podblast

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>>94017754
That's one of the Immortal Men. Nothing to do with Equinox or Lemire.

Do you think we will get any worthy DC information in regards to their comics from this con?

>>94018121
I never said no history or legacy. They're still ww2 heroes and inspired legacys.

Just forget about muh back issues being back in.

>>94017914
>>94018156
Sorry, I deleted my original post because I typed it wrong. What I meant to say was

>Just don't expect preflashpoint jsa.

What's the point really? The JSA doesn't work WITHOUT history and legacy.

>>94018197
Some, but the October solicits already came in so nothing really soon. We should at the very least find out how long Doomsday Clock will be. I think before Johns said it would be somewhere 6 to 13 issues but it wasn't finalized.

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>>94014699
>>94014904
I'm pre ordering this shit. Luckily I got a new book shelf for this

>>94018046
Not the guy but I found what he was talking about.: https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/07/20/dc-masterclass-artists-dark-matter/

Like you said, it would defeat the purpose so I'm skeptical but this whole imprint has had weird shit around it so who knows.

>>94018218
I NEVER SAID NO HISTORY OR LEGACY. They're still are WW2 vets and will inspire legacy.

Just covert and no muh back issues.

>>94016181
I dislike both of those.

Actually my "Baby's first Batman" was Grant's The Last Arkham. And I would very much like Batman to be more like this.

>>94016734


Most of this board clearly don't actually read comics. Especially those posting random pages as proof of something.

>>94018431
Bleeding Cool is 90% of times right, they anticiped Marvel Legacy, that the JSA would come back waaay before Rebirth started and even the name of DC's new event (Metal) months before it was actually revealed. Among other things.

I hope this time they're wrong.

>>94014904
I like how she's obviously latina, and not just brown.

>>94018669
I feel like it's 40% accuracy at best once you weed out the more obvious things even I could guess and information he steals from other places. He has some sources, but they like to fuck with him. Shit like the Dr Endless catastrophe is not exactly rare.

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Didio and Lee panel

https://www.newsarama.com/35486-sdcc-2017-meet-the-dc-comics-publishers-jim-lee-dan-didio-panel.html

>>94018827
Oh my, Morrison is in the panel.

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>>94018827
>"All the things we enjoy about comic books seem to have fallen between the pages, instead of on the page."
>Dark Matter titles will not feature variant covers.
>"Nothing is more valuable than a single book that everybody wants," said DiDio.
>DiDio said DC sold less books when they upped prices to $3.99. "All we do with that is put obstacles in the way of you buying comic books. Raising prices, variant covers...We have got to stop. We can't afford this to be a dying business."
>"We want to give you every reason to buy Dark Matter, and no reasons not to buy it."
>"We have to stop the collapse of the comic book industry," said Lee.

>>94019066

How can one man be THIS savage?!

OH SHIET MORRISON IS HERE.

Just announce a Morrison ongoing. Or give some information about Multiversity too and Batman OGN.

>>94019066
>"We want to give you every reason to buy Dark Matter, and no reasons not to buy it."
>>"We have to stop the collapse of the comic book industry," said Lee.
Do they seriously think that Dark Matter going to save the industry? It would be miracle if it survive for 12 issues.

>>94019053
>>94019087
>just for a Wonder Woman: Earth One sequel
Yawn.

>>94019066
Mahvel BTFO

>>94019066
Yet Marvel dominates most market share and retail. Anyway most fanbases don't overlap. A marvel zombies more likely to go along with high prices. Look at how high those tpbs at marvel used to be priced.

>Arkham Asylum 2
Sure why not.

>>94019066
How many times Didio has been saying the same things without any real solutions?

>>94019211
When did he become EiC?

Put Morrison on LoSH, you cunts

>Morrison is teaming with Chris Burnham for Arkham Asylum 2.

>He called Arkham Asylum 2 his "jump the shark moment."

>It's a 120 page OGN set in the Batman #666 era.

Comics are saved

>>94019252
Jesus fucking Christ. That is going to be amazing.

>>94019252
>Chris Burnham
>Batman #666 era
Pass.

>>94019314
>being a fag

>>94019314
that's what made me want it though

>>94019250

my one wish.

also where those fucking Flash OGNs he talked about after Multiversity ended

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>Lee said the upcoming Milestone relaunch will take place on "Earth M," which he called an alternate reality entirely.
So at least we still get some sort of confirmation that there's still being work done on Milestone.

>>94019252
>Arkham Asylum 2
Interesting

>Chris Burnham and Batman #666 era
Never mind

>>94013610
Damn, so I guess Action Comics really is considered the main Superman book now.

>>94019252
Same universe?


>>94019345

Later. One flash book. Mor earths later.

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I love him

>DiDio said he views Marvel and DC crossovers as a "last resort," saying he'd rather put creative energy solely into DC stories.
MARLEL BTFO

>>94019381
Some where outside the multiverse.

>>94019430
Where'd you get that pic? Are you in the audience?

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>>94019442
Didio pls, we need our husbandos together sometimes

>>94019408
Are you surprised? Superman has been only focusing on Clark being dad to Jon.

>>94019430
He really does look like Patrick Stewart

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>>94019466
no I'm NEET as fuck, DC twitter is posting some things

>Didio wearing a Kings hat

into the trash he goes

>>94019469
Thicc. Is Paquette the best cheesecake artist currently?

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>>94019515
>kongs

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>>94019548

>"As you stray more from a character's core representation you're going to lose readers and you're going to lose interest."
Who would even do that?

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>>94019572

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>>94019607

>>94019605
Valiant comics.

>>94019066
It's about time variant covers went away. And is every book seriously gonna be 2.99?

>>94019629
Fucking awesome.

>>94019629
Is that ultra humanite?

>>94019605
Jimmy Palmiotti and Amanda Conner

>>94019636
Yes.

>A fan asked if any WildStorm characters could appear in the CW's TV shows. Lee said they are focused on making the characters work in comic books first.
Why do they keep letting these people in? ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT COMIC BOOKS, GRANT FUCKING MORRISON IS SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU.

>Having only been a fan a short time, he said he "wants to go back and read every Crisis," asking for a Marvel Unlimited style service.

>"Don't start with Final Crisis," quipped Morrison.

Why is he so perfect?

>>94019314
>>94019393
what's wrong with Burnham?
Last thing I read with his art was Nameless, and it was great.

>>94019252
Great, more #666 is exactly what I wanted from this.

>>94019737
Most fans are tv and movie fans. Comics are their gateway thing they get into later. Older fans just buy comics and stay shut in.

I know I don't bother with conventions.

>A fan dressed as Shazam asked where the character is in Rebirth.
Dedication

>A fan dressed as Shazam asked where the character is in Rebirth.

>DiDio said they haven't found the right idea and the right team to relaunch the character. "He is a priority."

Translation: Johns hasn't stopped being a fag about Captain Marvel.

>>94019737
>GRANT FUCKING MORRISON IS SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU.
what show is he on?

>>94019792
Also because I'm sure people want the answer

>Lee said discussions have taken place "but we're not ready to pull the trigger on that."
>Lee said he feels it "devalues the product line to make it available at a single price."

translation: we make too much money in trades

>>94019792
>"I hated the middle two," he joked. "I couldn't beat Mr. Freeze or Deathstroke and I smashed the controller against the wall, knowing I'd never be Batman."
He's the best creator husbando.

>>94019829
Doc Shaner is likley on a mad dash to find the right writer right now.

>A fan dressed as Shazam asked where the character is in Rebirth.
>DiDio said they haven't found the right idea and the right team to relaunch the character. "He is a priority."
sounds like a PR line but I'll want to believe it.

>>94019834
Happy, coming soon on SyFy.

>>94019829
I still dislike how he forced his movie pitch. Curse of Shazam is a decent story, but much more suited for an Elseworlds, as it strips most of what made him interesting and unique.
I mean, I don't hate Johns. Rebirth is a great move, and I have reasonable faith that we'll see a good Billy.

>>94019829
>Translation: Johns hasn't stopped being a fag about Captain Marvel.
This.
Gail Simone, Doc Shaner, and others if I recall have all expressed interest in the character

>>94019882
Parker is good enough choice. I actually don't want Shaker on Shazam though unless it's a self contained OGN or mini. Dude can't keep a monthly schedule.

>>94019829
>>94019905
How was that Johns Shazam book? I'm tempted to pick it like, up 6 years after it's release.

>>94019161
>Yet Marvel dominates most market share and retail.
They do this by flooding the market with #1 issues and an exorbitant amount of variants. Also over-shipping and fake news about digital sales.

>>94019905
>>94019918
Going to need something that sells. And is different. The wizard and old costume are back in canon though.

>>94019985
It also helps when you sell your product for 25%-33$ higher on average than your competitor. Let your customers bear the brunt of any possible sales loss by making them pay more to make up the lost sales.

>>94019984
pick it up*

>>94019984
Different.
It depends how much of a characterfag you are really, you just have to be open to the idea that Billy goes through character development as opposed to starting as a perfect kid

>>94019985
No they don't. DC always been number 2 since Marvel arrived.

>>94019161
>Yet Marvel dominates most market share and retail.
what is star wars?

>>94019984
It's not bad, just a bit different. They retcon the larger changes eventually.

I think Frank's art the first couple of issues is too harsh and makes Billy seem meaner than intended. His faces have always been overly expressive, but it hurt the story somewhat there.

>>94019066
That mean they'll start doing Newsprint quality and sell it below 2.99?

>>94019984
I'm a GA Captain Marvelfag, and it's okay. It has a character arc from beginning to end, and would work great as a movie. It picks up really well after he gets his powers. I'll have to read it again.

>>94020043
Don't you have a Legacy panel to look forward to? Oh wait.

>>94020100
>tfw you actually like newsprint
I love looking at the comic book dots on the panels, makes it feel more comic booky.

i want more rebirth titles, i dont want new characters

>>94020216
Rebirth panel is tomorrow

>>94019066
>"We want to give you every reason to buy Dark Matter, and no reasons not to buy it."

And that's why we're trying Challengers of the Unknown again! People always buy that concept!

>>94020046
>>94020129
Ah another company war faggit. As someone who likes DC I know they're always number 2.

Mouth breathing casual. Legacy will dominate anyways.

>>94020270
>As someone who likes DC I know they're always number 2
Was gonna post exactly this.

Geoff Johns Panel's a go!

https://www.newsarama.com/35490-sdcc-2017-dc-s-geoff-johns.html

>>94020270
>>94020365
Thanks for your contribution, Marvelites! Excelsior!

>>94020209
>A fan asks if all the Robins were in one room, who would make it out alive.
>Timm and Tucker agree that Damian would "slaughter them and spit in their necks."
Dropped.

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>>94020270

I wanna know what Fabok is on

>"It was such an impact on me that suddenly I cared about characters I'd never seen before like Metamorpho, Katana, and Black Lightning."

>not naming Geo-Force

dropped

>>94019442
As a man picking up Batman/The Shadow, I'm very confused.

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>>94020399
based cereal man

>>94019381
When is the Milestone relaunch coming out ?

>>94020508
:^)

>Johns took the stage to wild applause. The room is even more packed than it was for Lee and DiDio's panel.
superstar

>Johns joked that he'd want to buy Hulk from Marvel. "I'd do a Hulk Vs. Superman movie," he joked.

mite b cool

Hey, guys, remember Vibe? Even Cereal King couldn't salvage that one.

>>94020547
Based Johns, based synder and slott.

>>94020632
He wasn't really on the book. It was a good run though, good revival.

>>94013584
>Johns said he wants to do a run on Batman, "But for me I like taking characters that don't work. When someone says 'Aquaman sucks!' I get really bothered by it and want to write the book."

>>94020610
Damage is DC hulk anyway.

>Johns' said his mentor Richard Donner is still a big factor in his life - he just had dinner with Donner and Wonder Woman director Patty Jenkins.


What a table that would have been

>>94020632
He was good, he's just been forgotten in the New52-Rebirth switch up which sucks

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>>94013584
>>94013663
Where is Tomorrow Woman supposed to be in these images?

>>94020488
DC would have to fix Marvel, it's too much work

>>94020647
It sure purged Vibe from the DC Universe real good.

>>94020666
Do Martian manhunter

>>94020675
BleedingCool said the Phantom Girl looking character was her for whatever reason.

>>94020675
BC thinks the girl in white is her.

>likes Morrison's Animal Man
>thinks Ostrander is underrated
WTF I love cereal King now?

>>94020769
>thinks Ostrander is underrated
then stop cancelling his reprints
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>94020793
Buy 20 copies of it then they won't cancel it nerd

>Johns said DiDio is the reason he signed an exclusive with DC after talking about Johns' Flash run.

Remember this

>I think overcoming great fear is unfortunately going to be very relevant in the next few years.
Dropped.

>Phantom Girl
>Plastic Man
>Metamorpho
>Mister Terrific
>DC has decided to make their own version of the Fantastic 4.

>>94020632
I liked Vibe desu. I own his 7 issue trade.

>>94020793
>you will never get the rest of his Spectre series.

>>94020873
also

>Johns took over Avengers - his only major Marvel work, which he said "was not a great experience because of the management at the time."
>Johns got his DC exclusive offer the day his Avengers run was announced. He wound up signing a year or so later.

makes you think

>>94020873
Based

>He talked about the questionable pitch for 52, which he was told would not work. "We believed in it, and we got the support to do it."

kek
didio must have been grinning his teeth

>>94020873
Bleeding Cool can finally stop with their bs articles about their being a power rivalry between the two

>>94020939
What article?

>>94020921
Morrison had problems too. With quesada and jemas at the time.

>>94020977
Mostly Jemas, he has praised Quesada a lot.

>>94019572

muh dick

>>94020939
Only Lee and didio are feuding.

>still nothing announced at the Johns panel
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>94021049
finally talking about Doomsday Clock at least

>>94019605

DC during the New 52.

>Johns said he cried while writing Wally West's return because it was such an emotional experience.

same tbqh

>>94019252
fuck yes
>tfw no shazam ever

>DiDio is cagily trying to bring up Doomsday Clock.

Kek

>It has now been officially confirmed that Dr. Manhattan is the character behind Rebirth.
That was officially confirmed when Rebirth first started, Newsarama, you dumbasses.

>Johns joked about bringing in clock-themed characters for Doomsday Clock.

Can't wait for Hourman to punch Dr Manhattan

>>94021239
Yeah I'm pretty sure Johns mentioned him by name before several times.

>Johns joked about bringing in clock-themed characters for Doomsday Clock.

Oh shit, are we finally Crisis on Infinite Clock Kings? Because we're sitting at 3 right now

>>94021290
Lots of other writers have been using Clock King so Johns might as well use him too

>Lee then discussed what he called DC's "evergreen" stories, such as Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, and more, saying DC wants to bring back those kind of books with top creators doing stories that are more directed - not monthly stories.

>The only creator Lee named was Neil Gaiman.

>The stories aim to be "The best Superman story, the best Batman story, the best Justice League story."

>Lee said his discussion of that line is a "soft announcement."

Comics are fucking saved, gentlemen.

>>94021332
>we fucked up All-Star before, but let's try again

kk

>>94021332
Ah this must be the prestige format thing nyder said they were thinking about

>>94021332
isnt that just all star superman and batman again?

>When the final issue of Doomsday Clock is released, the DC Universe will be caught up to the story's timeline, which starts in the future of the DCU.

Interdasting

>the DC Universe will be caught up to the story's timeline, which starts in the future of the DCU.
Give me Legion or give me death!

>>94021354
This is not All Star though, it's a new line of original graphic novels and prestige miniseries. ll the titles are going to be standalone.

>When the final issue of Doomsday Clock is released, the DC Universe will be caught up to the story's timeline, which starts in the future of the DCU.
Wasn't there a leak that there will be a time jump in DCU?

>>94021332
>>94021354
>>94021368
>>94021379
I can dig it.

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>>94021332

>>94021385
Not that far in the future, anon, unless you want all of DC to take place in the 31st century.

>>94021381
>>94021408
Maybe like One Year Later thing after Infinite Crisis?

>>94021408
What did the leak say?

I hope these panel pages get uploaded

>>94021393
>all star wasnt standalone miniseries
wat?

>>94021451
Let's do it, they need to shake things up a little anyway

>>94021408
Time jump only means a year or months later.

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>>94021465

>There's one more big reveal coming before the panel ends, said DiDio.
Alan Moore comes on stage and gives his blessings to Johns?

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>>94021495

>>94021471
I don't think it's going to be just months. It's probably a year or more.

>>94021510
Reveal anon, not miracle

>>94021510
More like Alan Moore comes out on stage and takes a giant shit

>>94021510
Earth 2 superman

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>>94021526

>>94021526
This the new character I assume?

>>94021510
More likely that Moore throws some chicken bones into a bowl an conjures a hex on Geoff

show the trunks. show the trunks! SHOW THE TRUNKS!

>and the smartest man in the DC Universe is Lex Luthor
Unless you're counting EVERY GODDAMN BRAINIAC IN EXISTENCE get your shit together Johns

18:59

Johns stopped short of saying "Ozymandias" but he heavily implied it.

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Johns' favorite interaction was "seeing the smartest man from one world meeting the smartest man from another - and the smartest man in the DC Universe is Lex Luthor."

>Johns' favorite interaction was "seeing the smartest man from one world meeting the smartest man from another - and the smartest man in the DC Universe is Lex Luthor."
>Johns stopped short of saying "Ozymandias" but he heavily implied it.

I never knew I wanted this.

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>>94021555

>and the smartest man in the DC Universe is Lex Luthor."
Batfags blown the fuck out.

>seeing the smartest man from one world meeting the smartest man from another - and the smartest man in the DC Universe is Lex Luthor

Ozzy meets Lex
oboy

>>94021571
>man
>MAN
>M A N

>big reveal is just that Luthor and Ozymandias will meet

>>94021534
Nah. Future just means the re arranging is caught up. Most lambasted one year later.

BRUCEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>94021571
Some Brainiacs are guys but he clearly means human there.

>>94021597
Man doesn't necessarily equal human

>>94021622
Bruce isn't just a man. He is Batman.

>>94021466
This is not "a single Batman/Superman series by X writer". There are going to be LOTS of different stories.

>>94021602
That’s it? Why these panels are always very underwhelming?

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>>94021573

>Ozy and Lex interacting with each other

oh boy

>>94021675
Because comic books don't have trailers and this panel was just dedicated to Geoff, and all he's writing is Doomsday clock right now.

>>94021593
Lex vs Oz. batman doesn't consider himself the smart or first smartest. Only tatics and detective levels.

Supersciencist humans are not common in DC as it as with marvel.

>>94021675
It was fun from just the commentary aspect, but yeah light on news.

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Confirmation of one year ahead

https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/888172625859551233

>DOOMSDAY CLOCK takes place over 12 issues and takes place a year from now. It celebrates ALL of DC's history. #DCSDCC

Hopefully this goes better than OYL

>>94021593
Didn't Johns himself say Bruce was the smartest man? Is he forgetting his own continuity?

>>94021622
Since when Bruce was the smartest person?

>>94021749
>Hopefully this goes better than OYL
Hey, now. We got 52 from that.

Those were the only two interesting panels today unless Marlel and Image has something good. See you fags tommorow I guess.

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>>94021749

>>94021771
He never truly was, but Batfags liked to pretend otherwise even though he has no feats besides the Omacs

>>94021757
DC BENDIS
DC BENDIS
>>94021774
And Up, Up and Away. There's probably some other good stuff too but I haven't read much from that era.

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I'm pretty sure this is literally just a photoshopped Rebirth JL variant, but whatever

>>94021749
So, it's going to finish on Oct where all rebirth line going to have a year later in oct/nov?

>>94021778
Marvel are more than likely announcing the new Moon Knight book, if you're into that. MK's editor tweeted about an exciting announcement being made today

>>94021850
>Baz with a gun
I think it might be

>>94021749
More like times run out. 12 issues eh? That's expanded from the old number. So Ozzy and Dr M are showing up.

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>>94021850
Yep

>>94021850
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>>94021883
Well Baz went a bit mad with Batman for the whole gun thing recently...
I think he'll return to it.

>>94021757
I thought Mr. Terrific was the DC's Smartest Man back when he wrote JSA

>>94021757
No, he said it was:

1. Lex
2. Bruce
3. Terrific

>>94021863
DOOMSDAY CLOCK is only going to be once a month? Man, it going to be such pain to wait fot it to finish.

>>94021956
The thing there is Terrific called himself #3 but he was being modest. So I guess you can slot him in at #2.

>>94021966
we've got dc metal, the real event to be excited about to keep us company.

>>94021966
When does it start again? November?

>>94022011
Aren't two events going on at the same time a bit overkill?

>>94022105
One's an event, other one's maxi. Both really important.

>>94022105
Doomsday Clock isn't an event in the same sense Metal is.

Doomsday Clock is more universe changing of a maxi-series while Metal is a big dumb summer blockbuster that won't end up changing much aside from introducing new characters

>>94022105
Doomsday Clock won't have tie-ins.

>>94022105
Not really. Doomsday Clock won't have any tie ins.

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>>94022011
>metal

>>94022145
>that won't end up changing much

it already retconned the simple Invasion explanation for meta humans and made everyone's cool gadgets generic af

So we are going to have to wait until November 2018 to have JSA and LOSH?

You guys think we'll see the dong?

>>94022145
>Metal is a big dumb summer blockbuster that won't end up changing much aside from introducing new characters
Best description of Metal and why it's absolutely waste of time.

>>94022205
It's probably going to be ignored.

>>94022205
>it already retconned the simple Invasion explanation for meta humans
And what does that actually change? Its a retcon but its not like its character redefining

>made everyone's cool gadgets generic af
Which writers can easily ignore and continue to add whatever attributes they want to said item

>>94022216
>implying this will be finished on time
Frank draws slow and 9 panel detailed grid is a bitch and a half.