JSA Storytime: Mr. X

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>>93997575
ugh, Lemire fucking sucks at teams

>Lemire
>on a team book

>>93997589
Why haven't they figured this out yet?

>Animal man? Really? Animal Man?

>>93997594
>Teen Titans Earth One
>JLD
>Justice League United
>that shitty x men book

when will the big two learn: NO LEMIRE TEAM BOOK

>>93997575
Hello, Storyteller.

I know I'm the only one in this group who cares, but I'm gonna poor one out for Archie Sonic anyway. Fuck it, I liked em.

>>93997589
Let this be the exception. Am I the only one that feels Plastic Man and Metamorpho together is weird?

>>93997640
JLU wasn't a complete disaster besides the LoSH hijack, I guess?

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>>93997589
>>93997640
His admission that he mishandled JLD was charming, his bungling of JLU was "you got your free pass, now fuck yourself"

>>93997683
It was honestly pretty damn bland before the LoSH hijack.

>>93997589
>>93997594
Well, I found his biggest problem on JLU (the only team book of his I've read) was that there were too many characters to juggle, Outsiders isn't as huge so maybe it'll be better.

I've heard his X-Men is bad but AFAIK nothing good has come out of that entire line in a long time either way.

>>93997655
I grew up with the weird British version.

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>>93997683
It was a disjointed, lanky, drawn-out mess that also failed to give Equinox a truly stand-alone "read this for her" establishment issue,which a new character needs

>>93997655
It was a big part of my childhood. Not like I've read it in a long, long time of course. But late 90's, it was my jam.

>>93997695
Especially when you have such a great conceits to work with there.


Also the Casting has me about a quarter less excited for Challengers. Which is a shame.

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>>93997734

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>>93997759
oh fuck is today Wild Storm day?

What'd you all think of the Berger Books announcement? I'm not into every book but I'll check out 2/4.

I like that they're all set out as 4 or 5 issue miniseries. It feels, well, realistic? What you're getting is upfront and you hope the creatives will work to that, although I figure it'll be slanted way more for the trade than the single issue. Emma Beeby is the first woman to write Judge Dredd, which is a way bigger deal for me personally than Doctor Who.

>>93997790

Sadly can't stick around to read this tonight so I'll just give you a friendly bump and be on my way.

>>93997594
Isn't his Dark Horse series technically a team book?

>>93997790
Yup!

GO DEATHBLOW!

>>93997717
Never read the Fleetway stuff, but I've heard good things. Seen that one page where someone is trying to convince Tails to assassinate Eggman JFK style.

>>93997736
It's funny, all day I've been in the mood for some old school 90s platformer mascot goodness. Ominous in hindsight.

>>93997797
Are any of them gonna last more than 10 months

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>>93997823
HAVE FUN ANON <3

>>93997797
I hope Nocenti/Aja is fucking lunatic

>>93997797
Honestly none of it really seemed that interesting to me besides The Seeds and that's more based on the creative team.

>>93997797
I'm just exited to have Aja drawing a comic again

>>93997847
>I like that they're all set out as 4 or 5 issue miniseries.

Maybe you'll get a seasonal model if any of them do really well.

>>93997857
That's kinda my perspective as well but I'll take a chance on the Mata Hari one too.

>>93997797
Reading it just on the principle of being Berger. I don't really know of any of Anthony Bourdain's creative works, if he has any. I wonder what lead to THAT partnership.

I'm also one of those people who didn't disown Nocenti after Catwoman.

>>93997829
No, no. He's Michael Cray now. "Deathblow" didn't play well with the marketing team.

>>93997892
>No, no. He's Michael Cray now. "Deathblow" didn't play well with the marketing team.

Is that confirmed?
Because the new series has a countdown numbering like The Wild Storm for 12 issues.

Which makes me hope, futile, that it's just prologue for some real Deathblow shit.

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>>93997850
So where's Spartan, dammit

>>93997892
>He's Michael Cray now. "Deathblow" didn't play well with the marketing team.
There's no way DEATHBLOW doesn't make a sale better than Michael Cray. I don't know who made that call but they're an idiot.

>>93997797
Hungry Ghosts sounds pretty good, Mata Hari might be neat, I'm wondering if Seeds will be batshit Nocenti or bad Nocenti or maybe even the fabled good Nocenti

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>>93997931
HIS NAME IS FUCKING DEATHBLOW

>>93997734
I will never stop being salty about Equinox and how she was fucking robbed.

>>93997790
Yeah. Today's issue was mostly an exposition dump, just to explain what the actual plot is.

Heh, not to gossip, but someone in the story time thread didn't realize at first that Jacob Marlowe is a dwarf. Not sure how one misses that.

Also, am I the only one bothered by how... intense Pris is in this book?

>>93997892
Berger is out of touch. She thinks it's still 1994 and everyone wants to read about "goth slackers".

>>93997838
One of the strips in the Fleetway stuff was Amy and her canary girlfriend going on weird interdimensional adventures, sometimes with a cyborg squirrel tagging along. That was my favourite. As I understand it Amy in the Archie stuff is completely insufferable.

>>93997959
>Heh, not to gossip, but someone in the story time thread didn't realize at first that Jacob Marlowe is a dwarf. Not sure how one misses that.

Two people missed that.
And I'm a third because I missed that too.

>>93997941
I think they want to step away from the EXTREME aspect a little bit, unlike Youngblood.

Ellis has been all about making this super srs bsns.

Also, I think having action heroes that just have an unassuming name is a thing now, like "John Wick" and "Jack Reacher" (I haven't seen either of those)

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>>93997959
I really like this Pris, the update to music video works with the conspiracy stuff, and the plot is not structured in the same way that we need the naif POV

that's weird because Emp has always been a dwarf

>>93997931
Rescuing Supreme, again.

>>93998034
Gonna have people wondering why they made a comic about a George Clooney film.

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>>93998055

>>93998034
Someone mentioned calling it "Death Blow" or "The Death Blow"...because it's his codename.

I mean, it's not any more cheesy than keeping around WildC.A.T.

>>93998055
>that's weird because Emp has always been a dwarf

I figured it was part of his disguise to not be a dwarf because it struck me in previous issues that "Oh, he's not a dwarf"

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>>93998078
Please don't spoil the KFC comic, i need to experience it for myself

>>93998034
>I think they want to step away from the EXTREME aspect a little bit, unlike Youngblood.

>>93988454
>>93988476

Now you look that move up in the dictionary, you'll find it's actually called a "Michael Cray"

>>93997978
>As I understand it Amy in the Archie stuff is completely insufferable.
Don't let Boco feed you his bullshit. Archie Amy is pretty cool, especially once she joins the Freedom Fighters properly, and becomes the team's powerhouse member.

>>93997981
... Dave, dude's like three feet tall.

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>>93998109

>>93998128
Yeah, and in previous issues he looked pretty normal sized - and that's what stood out to me.

>>93997892
>I don't really know of any of Anthony Bourdain's creative works
He wrote Get Jiro for Vertigo, one of the few cooking-themed comic books out there.

>>93998146
He's way smaller than Deathblow in the first issue but I don't think JDH makes things super clear in terms of scale.

>>93998126
>unlike Youngblood.

Youngblood is pretty fun teen team stuff right now.

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>>93998145

>>93998163
I'll need to re-read that, yeah.
I thought it was gonna be a reveal about his height or something.

>>93998159
Go east for your cooking comics, weebs do it right.

>>93998109
It was a treat but unfortunately not much to spoil.

I'll refrain from repeating the jokes because they are quite good, though.

>>93998159
Oh yeah, I actually even read that. Totally forgot it was him.

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>>93998175
You know, I'm weirdly proud that we've been reading comics together for this long. You owls are alright.

>>93998109
>Bedard could have been on Outsiders instead

>>93998188
Get Jiro is pretty good tho.

>>93998145
>Necro-Phil's

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>>93998209
the champion bird of my region right now is the mockingbird who woke me up at 5 fucking AM

he can fly and sing at the same time

>>93998211
Honestly does he do anything besides assorted shill comics anymore? I think he was on the SS movie hair dye one too.

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>>93998245
who do we have to screw to get R.E.B.E.L.S.?

>>93998212
Not saying it isn't! Really, I just wanna shill Dungeon Meshi.

I also caught up on Golden Kamuy last week and it's basically Blade of the Immortal + Ainu cuisine in early 20th century Hokkaido and it's pretty fun.

>>93998146
I have heard people complain that the perspective is off with him, which yeah, it can be.

Speaking of Jake though, that x-ray scan Angela did... Kherubim skeletal structure is utter whoreshit. Fuckers got ribs in their limbs, what the fuck.

>>93998264
Waid

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>>93998264
so how about those Marvel solicits huh

>>93998088
>>93997941
>>93997929
I don't think DC want to be publishing a book called DEATHblow at the same time as DEATHstroke

>>93998264
Everyone, because everyone gets screwed in that.

>>93998293
didn't even bother going through those

>>93998284
Oh god that was so horrifying.
The artist can do creepy shit and over the top action.

>>93998306
>DEATHblow at the same time as DEATHstroke

The devil's brothel

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>>93998286
not even with a...

>>93998293
total ass

>>93998306
>DEATHblow
how you kill someone
>DEATHstroke
an embarrassing way to get carpal tunnel

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>>93998335
Yeah, CLEAN ROOM showed off what kinds of goddamn horror stuff he can draw, extensively

>>93998209
Aw shucks.

Frankly, I'm just happy to have a consistent source of people to talk to who aren't hideously annoying morons.

>>93998293
Image solicits continue to terrify me.

>Secret Service sequel is FULL SYNERGY
>Stray Bullets has another intermission issue.

Fucking hell

>>93998371
I try my best.

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>>93998369

>>93998293
The renumbering is so dumb. I crack up at Captain Marvel #125.

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>>93998396

>>93998396
Oh yeah, I can't remember what it was but Chaykin is writing something for DC soon I saw in the solicits.

So looking forward to getting to relive this whole controversy all over again.

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>>93998420
there's, like, maybe one book that reads as even slightly appealing.

Renumbering EVERYTHING is so fucking stupid. Tec and Action made sense because history--imagine being an LCS drone and having to explain the Marvel ones.

>>93998440
He's doing one of the Hanna-Barbera books.
The short that was a prologue to it was already pretty risque.

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>>93998440
Ruff and Ready

he got an anal sex joke into the 8-page preview, I recall

>>93998377
Vaguely interested in the Underwinter thing as a new series because it feels like clear OGN material all the way through.

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>>93998293
Marvel solicitations just seemed sad to me. At least they admit that Spirits of Vengeance is a mini.
At the same time, there isn't too much to look forward to for me in the DC ones either. Shade and Cave are MIA for now, and the only notable change is that Humphries is off GLs and Seeley is on.

>>93998335
>>93998369
That nice body horror

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>>93998472
look at this murderer's row of artists who all wanted to work on Mr. X

>>93998472
Shut the fuck up, nigger bitch.

Speaking of Marvel silliness... All hail the new queen of Latvaria, I guess?

I mean, I gotta admit, I'm kind of interested in actually reading that series now. Kinda, it's Bendis after all, but still. Curious to see where the hell that came from.

>>93998446
Yeah, I've harped on it a lot already but the whole thing is so shallow. Almost as shallow as doing a "Civil War II" to cash in on the Civil War movie

It's like someone said "dey like big numbers right? how big can we reasonably make these numbers?" and just did it for everything they could instead of picking things that actually made sense to have legacy numbering.

>>93998446
They should have just waited for anniversaries or something.

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>>93998511

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>>93998552

>>93998527
Didn't they skip a few for Hulk even?

>>93998497
Clean Room's supposed to be coming back eventually, isn't it? I assume as part of whatever Doyle is doing with Vertigo?

>>93998584
I think BC did an article that displayed a lot of picking and choosing going into the numbering

>>93998446
Punisher, and the Priest Inhumans thing, and I'm gonna at least look at the new Runaways.

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>>93998576

>>93998517
I didn't really dig to deep into that, but that reminds me that I saw people bitching about SE and AI Tony. It doesn't seem worth the shitstorm, basic philosophy 101 discussion thing.

Though I think in Marvel you do have canon souls so that throws a wrench into things.

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>>93998635
>>93998632
Oh yeah, hasn't PUNISHER: THE PLATOON been promised forever and ever

>>93997575
Fuck yes Mister X

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>>93998648

>>93998648
Yes it has.

Gonna be a trip.

>>93998517
>Speaking of Marvel silliness... All hail the new queen of Latvaria, I guess?
What happened? I haven't been keeping up with either Iron Man book

>>93998632
ooh I forgot about Platoon

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>>93998675

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>>93998700

>>93998293
Apparently there's a Suicide Squad mini by Barr and somebody else and I am salty that Priest should be writing SS but he's not

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>>93998721

>>93998724
Priest is already doing crazy action/espionage/team drama in Deathstroke, if he's gonna do something else, I'd rather and I'm sure he'd rather do something quite different.

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>>93998760

>>93998396
>Black Kiss

Wait, was this the horrible, horrible SoP we did to celebrate /aco/'s creation?

>>93998760
Cute lightbulb.

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>>93998815

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>>93998828
that was the sequel

I've heard better things about the original

>>93998511
You know you're doing something right when Sienkiewicz wants to draw your shit.

>>93997589
I'm just praying that the book doesn't get past 4 members.

Nice small team with 2-3 recurring side characters as needed will probably make the book more tolerable since Lemire won't be fumbling with 20 characters

>>93997931
I'm wondering why they keep referring to him as John Colt. I'm not the only one who liked Hadrian better, right?

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>>93998871

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>>93998887
Wasn't he John Colt back in the past of Team 7? That's where Miles Craven comes from.

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>>93998941

This is a series that warrants such in-depth discussion and I keep missing the threads, goddammit.

>>93998552
>>93998576
Another Excerpt from Reflections of a Falling Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn6hhrX34Pw

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>>93998965

>>93998987
Does that have anything to do with the falling whale from Hitchiker's Guide?

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>>93999010
unexpected slapstick???

the greatest animated physical comedy sequence in years was new Beavis and Butt-Head trying to set rat traps

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>>93999038

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>>93999097
do we need to start a new Marvel betting pool?

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>>93999155

>>93999038
I think it speaks rather loudly of human nature that we find humor in the suffering of others. And yet, we also see constant suffering as an endearing trait to be fawned over. It's an odd pseudo contradiction that may or may not be cause for concern.

Looking at you, newer fans of Coco Bandicoot.

>>93998983
Just post on the back of them, or in a new one.

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>>93999174

>>93999155
For what? How soon their next relaunch will be?

>>93999155
Betting on what? Cancellations? Dumb books? How long it takes for the entire business to go belly up?

I'd save that last one for the end of the Cinematic Universe, though.

>>93999155
How can you predict pure chaos?

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>>93999228
I can't tell if the constant mixups of Germanic ie and ei are intentional or not

>>93999155
I think someone already made a "rumors that Rich the Leech believes" checklist for SDCC.

Oddily though, there was a comicsbeat article about how there is internal strife at Marvel about another rebranding on the way soon after Legacy.

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>>93999237
cancellation betting pool

>>93999292
Put me down for Hulk.

I'm taking risks.

>>93999155
>Mercedes
>two-bit
Ey, dem's fightin' woids, pal. Put up ya dukes!

>Marvel betting pool
For?

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>>93999268
link?

>>93999292
My prediction is in 9 months we'll get a relaunch going "confused by all the big numbers? We listened! Get in from the beginning, with all new #1's!"

>>93999317
>Hulk
>when there's a movie right around the corner
Well it's a Thor movie but you know what I mean.

>>93999155
I honestly don't even know what books they are launching out of Legacy to even bet on them getting cancelled early.

All I know is that Spirit Vengeance book got a (1 of 5) and there was ambivalence about it.
And that America is getting at least 10 issues.

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>>93999336

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>>93999370

>>93999348
I give it...half a year after the Thor movie.

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>>93999410

>>93999336
http://www.comicsbeat.com/sdcc-17-what-wil-be-marvel-and-dcs-biggest-news-at-comic-con/


>guess looking anywhere beyond Generations just isn’t in the cards for now, although I assume Legacy will be mentioned from time to time. Internal reports I get coming from Marvel are extremely conflicted, but the general sense is that Legacy is a stop gap event for some OTHER rejigger that is more to the taste of some internal faction. As everyone keeps saying, it doesn’t really make any sense, but there you go.

There's no Generations or Legacy panel.
I don't have the Rich card, but it contains stuff like "Spencer on ASM." I think Spencer was actually mia on the october solicits

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>>93999486
the internal battle is interesting--I think it's clear no one's totally in charge of the ship like Johns is at DC

>>93999362
>All I know is that Spirit Vengeance book got a (1 of 5) and there was ambivalence about it.
I can't believe they actually announced a mini as a mini

Didn't Runaways already get stealth mini'd?

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>>93999532

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>>93999486
I just can't shake the idea of Spencer on Cap and the Thunderbolts. Just feels right.

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>>93999593

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>>93999454
Kinda makes a fun tiled desktop.

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>>93999623
I want Spencer Thunderbolts so badly

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>>93999673

>>93998264
Can we get Ewing for that?

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>>93999716
I've cooled a lot on him on the "cleverness vs. plotting" scale, YMMV

>Guys and Dolls reference, lol

Fuck it, this has been bothering the shit out of me ever since it started, and I hope I can count on you lot to have a clear headed conversation about this shit.

So one of the most common complaints about this new paradigm for Carol Danvers is that she often "looks like a man", basically that she's not hyper-feminine anymore.

My question is this; Why does anyone care? No really, what's the problem? Look, sorry if this makes me sound like an ass, but any soldier who comes out looking like a runway model has thoroughly fucked up.
If the concern is aesthetics, and if aesthetics do indeed matter in a visual medium, then the priority should be to have her look the part of a capable soldier, such that the audience is convinced that she can do the things she does, yes? Well, unfortunately, our society tends to equate physical ability with masculinity, and while that sucks, ain't no escaping it for the moment.

So again, why do people bitch about Carol looking butch?

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>>93999746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU0PdpqDB88

>>93999761
Because they can't fap to her anymore, come on, this isn't hard.

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>>93999761
they want her to be sexy so they can fap to her

thanks for reading, back tomorrow to finish off volume 1

>>93999761
MUH TITS
FUCK DA MATRIARCHY
ALL COMIC CHARACTERS SHOULD BE MY SPECIFIC BRAND OF TITS, PECS AND ASS

>>93999761
They liked femme Carol better?

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Is this getting announced at SDCC

>>93999761
a. they can't fap to her anymore
b. masculine women have pretty much always been mocked and demonized outside of musclegirl fetishists, this is no exception

>>93999821
oh my god, she's a sexy cop

>>93999821
that's a cute design

I'm gonna be real butthurt if there's no Bombshell Hal or Sinestro statues in the future

>>93999761
I think it largely is just the fapbait aspect, but there's something to be said for women not having to emulate men to appear powerful. Like there's nothing shameful about femininity and I think they COULD still draw her with less harsh traits and have her taken seriously.

But also I think that it's more of an artist to artist concern than something Marvel is actively telling people to do (like it's not as if Rocafort has drawn her manly even though she has short hair). Kind of the reverse of the argument where people complain that costumes are "too sexy" when it's really just the artist's fault for drawing it like a thong with cameltoe.

idk I'm done blogging now

>>93999761
It looks like shit and this is a visual medium. You want her to be less feminine? Fine. Make it look good or fuck off.

If you can't do that, I'll keep my money, and so will the virtue signalling parasites you're making a clumsy attempt at catering to.

>>93999532
I would love to be a fly on the wall up at Marvel right now.

>>93999925
It kinda bugs me that people write off butch Carol as "well she was in the military!" as though women who used to be in the military are never feminine

I knew a woman Marine who loved girly stuff and her favorite color was pink, it's not like you have to hand over your lady card when you join the military

>>93999799
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

>>93999781
>>93999802
>>93999835
I mean, I didn't want to say it outright without at least pretending there was a legit reason. Silly me.

>>94000026
There's a weirdly performative crew that wants Carol to be as non-conventionally feminine as possible because I dunno representation? But that ends up being as stupidly stereotypical itself?

>>93999761
People are desperate to be outraged by things.

>>93999799
G'night OP, thanks.

Heat is fucking ridiculous

>>93999922
If Aquaman does well I imagine we'll at least get Hal and Batman's since they're probably popular enough. They aren't cute grills nor do they minus Aquaman have sexy designs so not sure who those are for.

>>94000168
Lucia could probably sex the designs up a little if he tweaked them, I think Luppacchino designed Hal & Batman

>>94000230
True, I think that's why Starfire's design changed.
Lupa did the original variant so he changed it to the firefighter thing.

>>94000026
Does this friend have noticeable muscle tone and is capable of disabling opponents with physical force? Well, she can be as girly as she wants, society at large is going to see her as a masculine bulldyke. Again, that sucks, it's fucking disgusting even, but that's life.

Perhaps instead of complaining about Carol's lack of traditional feminine traits, maybe we could use this as a way to explore why we react negatively to a woman displaying what we perceive to be exclusively masculine tra-HAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh shit, I almost finished that sentence too. Comic book fans being introspective... As if that's ever gonna happen!

>>94000066
It's /co/ of course so it's not going to be that deep. But I guess also most characters have a "look" that you can't stray too much from in main continuity without people bitching. People cry just as much about Harley designs too and they went the other way with sex appeal there.

>>94000026
>>94000092
I mean in the end the answer is "have enough female* characters so that no single one has to bear the brunt of the weight of expectations/stereotypes" but yeah.

*can apply to any "othered" group

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>>94000295
Sinestro on the other hand is 100% perfect

>>94000324
>Does this friend have noticeable muscle tone and is capable of disabling opponents with physical force? Well, she can be as girly as she wants, society at large is going to see her as a masculine bulldyke. Again, that sucks, it's fucking disgusting even, but that's life.
I don't remember anyone calling Carol a bulldyke before artists started drawing her with shorter hair and less skin showing

>>94000324
I think tomboy characters who have masculine traits to begin with are not really reacted negatively to in the same way, so it's not that simple. The fact that it is a change is why people complain.

>>94000352
Unfortunately that looks like Lupa too.
If he does get a statue Lucia better not change it. Truly the best male Bombshell.

>>94000352
literally perfect

Thanks, OP.

bump x

>>93998446
And yet the one Marvel comic that really shouldn't ever get its numbering reset isn't even being published.

>>93999746
I've got the horse right here!

>>93999258
I've noticed quite a few lettering goofs, so unless it's part of some complicated cipher about Mister X's true identity, I'd wager the latter