WELP https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/ status/887809496898088960

Well that sucks I guess.

>>93996192
Archie ded

>>93996192
I guess that's that.

RIP Sonic comics at Archie.

>>93996192
F

Sega finally announced it themselves

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>>93996192
IT'S CHAOS
THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

>>93996192
question is, does lot care?

Good thing we still have Lara Su Chronicles

Time for Boom or IDW to pick up the license.

>>93996192
Blame One Piece for increasing sales of Japanese comics while comics in every other country were getting killed by the internet.

If you thought it was cringy and autistic before, just wait for SHUIESHA PRESENTS HEDGEHOG NO SONIC.

>>93996192
Can't wait for the inevitable Penders psuedo self congratulatory tweet for killing Archie Sonic. Hopefully he tries to beg Sega to pick up his shit and gets laughed at.

>>93996192
>Sonic's amazing fans
This made me laugh harder than I should have.

Welp, that's it. Let's get started on planning the final Ride.

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>>93996192
>memorable storytelling

>>93996192
F
I'll miss their portrayal of Eggman. That was about the one thing they did really, really right throughout the years.

>>93996309
>Sonic's exceptional fans

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All those years.

All those characters.

For what?

>>93996326
traumatic experiences do have a way of staying fresh in one's mind

>>93996192
>This does not mark the end of Sonic in comics
What did they mean by this?

>>93996315
Only bright side to this tragedy.

There's absolutely no excuses that can be made to delay it.

>>93996348
Probably to start fresh with canonical characters instead of literally who's from the 90s

>>93996408
>There's absolutely no excuses that can be made to delay it.
Well, we could see if they go with the slim chance of continuing the continuity under a new publisher before pulling the trigger.

Saying going a different direction with the series kinda implies differently, but it's possible.

>>93996192
it's about fucking time. God those were embarrassing

>>93996406
That they're going to partner with a different comic company at some point and do a reboot

>>93996406
DC publishing Sonic when?

I hope Ken gets the rights. He's the only one who can do the series and characters justice

>>93996406
New publisher, new book, most likely.

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The statement in full resolution.

>>93996406
I can see SEGA bringing the license to a different publisher, though I can't say if they'd want to start fresh or find a way to republish old comics somehow. Maybe even negotiate with Ken Penders to get the rights to all the characters that aren't technically his.

Maybe just go full Don Rosa and condense the entirety of the past Sonic comics into a twelve-issue story.

>>93996192
That sucks for me. I had a Sonic comic I got from WalMart when I was a teenager and I really liked it, but never found more.

When I was in college I found a huge torrent with all the comics up to maybe 170. It was the summer before my second year and I had a lot of time so I spent the next few days and nights reading it non-stop on my shitty chinese tablet that ran like Android 2.1, while marathoning Reboot.

Good times.

>>93996192
I'm glad they had the decency to give fans some closure instead of letting it linger. Sonic Boom comic when.

>>93996192
Not a Sonic or Archiefag, how did this come about?

>>93996452
>Sonic racing Flash, Road Runner, and Speedy Gonzales

I want it

PENDERS!

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>>93996460
All the other comic plebs can't even make a properly immersive app

>>93996476
Ken Penders sued Sega over his Donut Steels.

>>93996192
Archie Sonic died as it lived: with autists obsessing over their original the characters

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>>93996192

Knew it was coming but the pit in my stomach still opened up anyway. Farewell, old friend.

>>93996476
ken penders sued and then convinced his friend to sue

I hope the diaperfurs commit mass suicide.

So when is the ride starting

>>93996504

You know, OC starts to lose meaning when you try applying it to officially made products.

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Deal with it cucks.

>>93996529
When the new comics are announced.
There's no reason to be sad. Archie has made one garbage decision after another with the comics & even if they continued, that shit was just gonna continue. It was a long time coming SEGA took the license away & if they bring the comic crew on board (which they likely will, as they've done other official Sonic related shit lately), there's nothing to be sad about.

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>>93996476
Lawuits making the comics out to be a legal liability, and I suppose even sales and waning interest.

First lawsuit involved an old (and shitty) creator called Ken Penders claiming that SEGA stole his ideas about an ancient Echidna race from a different dimension. In the first place this guy brought down the comic with his Echidna OCs and just mishandling of plenty of aspects of the comics, but that and him being able to "claim" certain characters as him (including an Evil version of Sonic that was already developed past what Ken had even written him as), forcing thte comics to reboot and remove an characters they didn't officially own straight from the games or cartoons.

Then apparently there was a second lawsuit but it was much more recent and also probably about something stupid, but I think the lawyers were smarter this time around.

Either way, all of these things and Archie's own incompetence (if you can remember that kickstarter they tried to pull) lead to the comics being delayed a lot, comics like the Boom one and the Mega Man one being straight up canceled or on "hiatus", and now this.

>>93996315
Yeah, we were planning a Ride during Sonic Mania's release, but I think it's time for a early side.

God... The Sonic comics were all over the place, but they're still a really fond memory.

It was a good run, lads. Let's just hope for the best now and wait until someone storytimes all 300+ issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeZytFpIQDY

F

IDW Sonic comics?

>>93996565
why not now on it's death day

so archie's officially dead now right?
the new comics all failed, and sonics gone

>>93996538
New official characters are no different conceptually from unofficial OCs. The primary difference is money. If you throw enough money at an OC, it becomes official.

Really hope Ian Flynn will follow Sonic.

>>93996617
Isn't he one of the writers for Sonic Forces?

>>93996471
They aren't going to mess with Ken or the old-old continuity stuff. Especially if the legal messes are the cause of this split and I doubt the new publisher will bother either.

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>tfw you will never be as pathetic as Ken Penders

>>93996617
with the rumors that Flynn is somehow involved with Forces (as a script doctor) and Hesse's work on Mania, there's a decent chance he will.

>>93996628
Think that was a rumor that went around, no idea if true

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I WON HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

>>93996192
Hopefully (though very unlikely) Sega will keep the SATAM cast along with Lynx NICOLE. If all we get from a new Sonic comic is just Sonic games in comic form I will be very pissed.

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RIP in peace.

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You know not the hell that awaits you, /co/. Have fun with Jay Fosgitt drawing Sonic.

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>you will never have the talents of Ian Flynn and Tracey Yardley work on Sonic Comics together ever again

>>93996598
Because when the new comics are announced, it would make for a nice lead-in.

>>93996617
He's been doing some shit with Sonic lately outside of the comics, so he probably will.

>>93996662
>Will never have another job in the comic industry
>Will never release TLSC
>Won

>>93996497
I couldn't find this amazing app on the google store.

>>93996192
>jerk everyone around for months just to shit out three sentences

Archie and SEGA should be hanged.

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>>93996586

>Mighty finally finds his sister after a decade
>Retconned just one arc later

So it's probably going to be IDW or Dark Horse that picks Sonic up, right?

>>93996662
how does he actually look worse without the pedo stash

>>93996676
>it would make for a nice lead-in.
it has nothing to do with the old ones though

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>>93996476
Archie Sonic had been off the rails for a long time, then when Sega finally checked in on things and found it to be a mess that didn't jive with their vision of the series at all they implemented a bunch of mandates.
Ken Penders, ex-head writer, began working on a comic series using characters that he created for Archie Sonic, and are clearly derivative of Sega's IP.
Archie filed a C&D against him, and ended up going to court. Where it was found that the original contracts he signed, which stated every character and story he wrote for Archie belonged solely to Sega, had been lost in an office fire some years back, and the court would not accept the photocopied version they presented.
As Archie are just the comic license holder, they couldn't really do anything to him after that. Sega would need to step in and sue him themselves over the derivitiveness, but they didn'ty want to deal with it unless Archie paid the legal fees, and they were already strapped for cash. so a settlement was reached where Penders now owned all the OCs he made, and Archie rebooted the continuity to remove them so they wouldn't have to pay him royalties.
Then Penders started convincing his other ex-writer friends to sue Archie/Sega. At this point Sega had enough of this shit and just pulled the comic license from Archie.

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So does this mean we're never getting a TPB of this if SEGA shunts to a new publisher?

>>93996701
>sega cancels partnership with archie
>somehow thinks reprints are possible
just how fucking stupid is he

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>>93996701
Will Penders ever answer for what he's done, you guys think?

>>93996725
We'll never get another issue, much less a TPB.

>>93996192
Sonic boom comics are good. I just hate idea pended rubbing his hands think the comics needed him.


On that note. Amy update on Mary su is it still a thing or is it dead?

>>93996700
Yeah, but it would make for a nice lead-in for the return of the comics.

>>93996725
Heese has said before that he's looking at ways to release Overdrive. He may just leak it.

>>93996406
It means that they're lying. SEGA hates Sonic rejects the idea of the characters being used in stories. The closest thing they'd do to a comic is some short dialogueless newspaper comics with nobody but Sonic to push toys.

The death of the comic means you will never see a character created after Amy ever again.

>>93996750
His shit flopping (which will happen) is as close as he will get to paying for what he has done. That and probably being black listed from the industry with any luck.

D I V A I S I N O U S

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>>93996742
He truly believes that he's the original creator and rightful owner of Knuckles

>marks his echydna art as copyright and trademark Ken Penders 1993
>Knuckles the Echidna's first appearance: 1994

>>93996664

It wouldn't surprise if Sega forbids the use of any SATAM or Archie comics characters in any new comics.

>>93996232
uck you Ken!

>>93996302
>Waaah, a Japanese manga sells better than muh dying blue rodent series. It must be them Japs at fault and not our shitty fanbase.

>>93996701
That's not entirely true. The lawsuit was about Sonic Chronicles being very similar to his stupid Knuckles comics, he was the one who sued. But everything else is right.

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>>93996666
>quads

>>93996750
He'll die in complete obscurity. That's really the most we could ask for, considering the size of his ego.

>>93996750
I don't think any other company will hire him after the shit he's done.

>>93996811
God he's like the Andrew Dobson of Sonic.

>Sega goes with a new partner.
>Ian comes back.
>Tyson does more Sonic comics.

Maybe it wont be so bad.

>>93996826
To think, the death of Archie Sonic was Bioware shitting out a game they didn't want to make but were contractually obligated to.

Welp. The hammer has finally fallen.

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>>93996666
No! God DAMN IT! Another waifu bites the dust.

https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/887816725844066304
>what does this mean for you & everyone else who works on the comic
>I'll have more to say towards the weekend
Make of that what you will, I guess

>>93996826
wait so the man who made shitty ripoffs was upset over shitty ripoffs?

>>93996671
>Untalented cut-rate Looney Tunes hack who can't even draw love hearts correctly

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>>93996757
Oh, it's coming along.

Its for the best, the cast was getting bloated.
How many different Knuckles were there again?

>>93996192
THIS JUST PUT ME IN A FUCKING GOOD MOOD

YEEEEEEEAH SON HAHAHAHA

>>93996750
if I were to develop terminal cancer and he's still alive he'd be near the top of the list of people I'd murder before I die

>>93996893
None, they were all removed in the reboot.

>>93996893
none they had all been removed due to the tazmanian devil and then the reboot happened

Is Ken laughing now?

>>93996888
Are those echidnas or hairy zoras.

>>93996893
They've been gone for 4 years since the world got rebooted, and had been largely absent for much longer.

>>93996932
Boco shut the fuck up you piece of human garbage. ken at least is a piece of shit because he wants money but you are complete waste for what?

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>>93996666
Oh man...

>>93996932
I know I am

>>93996947

Its okay Anon. I know you're mad. Let it all out.

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>>93996565
>>93996436
>No ride in several years
>Nah, let's wait until more comics come out
>Comic is on indefinite hiatus
>Nah, let's wait until it's confirmed to be over
>Sega announces that Archie's Sonic comic is dead as shit
>Nah, let's wait until the new comic gets announced.

If you don't want to do it anymore, just say so.

>>93996883
He can't even draw Muppets or Looney Tunes, it's actually pretty exceptional.

>>93996192
How is this franchise still a thing?

Seriously, this goes on the same pile for me as stuff like Digimon, Yu Gi Oh, and so forth: the continued obsession with and viability of Sonic the Hedgehog as a cultural entity is one of the single most mystifying oddities in the world to me.


I mean I like that classic run of Sega Genesis games (and the one Sega CD game) at least. Those were and remain fun, solid 2D platformers. But that's all they are, a couple dozen hours worth of decent fun. Everything else? The later games, the cartoons, the comics, the crossover games, the fanfiction, the general fixation on Sonic's "mythos" and "universe" (which is about as dense and worthwhile as Mario's: it may as well not exist, its a flimsy clothesline to hang a few sidescrollers on, there's no "there" there and there never was, etc.), the batshit online obsession. All of it. Everything. The whole "phenomenon" as it were. I don't get it. I've never gotten it, I never will.

The character had a decent run of games in the very early goings, but the fact that its had any sort of a life at all beyond that is one of the most singularly inexplicable things about fan culture across and throughout the 2000s. This is a franchise that hasn't produced a single solitary worthwhile piece of content since well before a giant chunk of its present fanbase was even born, or at least cognizant, and yet its become one of the most enduring and heated touchstones of the last couple of generations of geek culture. I think Sonic has inspired a degree of heated, impassioned rage and debate across the internet that sometimes seems roughly comparable to any stated/active religious creed or political platform. That never ceases to utterly baffle and perplex me.

>>93996826
I believe there were two different cases going on

Penders was attempting to sue EA/Bioware/Sega over The Dark Brotherhood, but this was being stalled by him not appearing to actually own the Dark Legion.
Then Archie sued him over that claim and Lara Su Chronicles, at which point it was discovered he actually did have legal ground to stand on.

>>93996893
Reboot gutted them all, even the 2 that people actually liked or at least were plot relevant.

>>93996938
no, they're Echyd'yna

seriously

>>93996982
Boco I hope every episode of the simpsons from now on is as shitty as the empire special

>>93996989

I thought the current plan was to start alongside Mania's release?

Flynn on the new comics or RIOT

>>93997006
>How is this franchise still a thing?
Because people keep buying the games or something

>>93996989
You just gotta do it at a proper time.

>>93997021
>waiting for a shitty game
>when we have proof that the comic is dead
might as well start now

>>93996471
There's absolutely no way they'll touch Penders' shit. They'll likely forget Archie altogether and try for comics that only include game canon characters.

>>93997006
He's got a good design.

>>93996192
So what's the over/under on IDW picking up the IP?

>>93997054
it is the proper time

>>93996989
Just saying, wait til SDCC to see if we get to see what the new series is.

>>93997021
The plan I was following was to do it when it was officially canned, but with a new series possibly being announced soon. I think we should wait and see what's coming.

So, Boom or IDW?

Or would they dare to ask one of the Big Two?

Has anyone seen if Chris-chan knows about this? Will we finally get to see that whacko go full on retard?

Now we have to wait another few years at least for the new pick ups to get acquainted with Sonic and crew.

What a drag.

>>93996982
Go back to shunting some troublesome trucks you diseasel.

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>>93996192
RIPD

>>93997092
idw that way he can cross over with the turtles and transformers

>>93996932
who are you boco? what do you do? do you drawfag? writefag? do anythingother than be obnoxious?
delete your trip

>>93997093
Ken vs Chris

>>93997092

I'd prefer it in Boom's hands. Hopefully they can pick up Ian and crew as well.

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RIP all of the new characters like the Egg Bosses that will never get any more development. RIP Overdrive, too. Hopefully IDW picks it up, but I feel like it'll be lacking in lore (especially if they ditch the Freedom Fighters.)

>>93996192
man, one more year for a round 25th anniversary would have been great

>>93997116
the trip is so we can filter him easily though. the one good thing he does is use a trip so we can immediately ignore him

>>93997061
>shitty game

Just because you have no taste doesn't mean it's a shitty game.

Post that screencap explaining Penders.

>>93997131
>shitty 2d
>shittier sonic 3 and knuckles

>>93997115
and a certain other franchise

Can't wait for Lara-Su to take the Sonic mantle!

>>93997093
i dont think Chris even cares about the comics

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>Sally, Bunnie, Nicole, Antoine and Rotor will now be permanently retired and never appear in anything ever again

I mean, I won't miss them, but I've a feeling a lot of Hyper Autists who have been reading the book for 25 years are going to need to be put on Suicide Watch.

>>93996893
>the cast was geeting bloated
>just about 2/3rds of it was sent to die, and the main cast didn't finish their own arcs before being rebooted, where they still didn't get too much time to shine

I haven't felt passion for the games since the Gamecube. Especialyl in the age of classic pandering.

Boom is funny but you could reskin everyone with non-sonic characters and lose nothing.

The comics were the last thing I cared about in regards to Sonic. I know there's going to be more Sonic comics, but it's going to be more of the same self depreciation shit and classic pandering. We'll be lucky if we see any characters outside of the "four main characters" ...That's another thing Archie did that Sega sucked at, keeping old characters alive and in the spotlight and depicting them respectably. Big tanked Silver Sonic in the comics, and to Sega, all he is, is a chance to suck off the fucking game grumps.

If Forces is as generic and boring as the last decade of Sonic games have been, then I'm done being a Sonic fan.

>>93997177

Let them rest. What's the average lifespan of a squirrel anyway? Sally had a good life if you ignore all the bad parts

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>>93997203
>Ignoring Mania

>>93996932
Probably too busy wracking his reptile brain for a way to profit off this because he knows damn well that his stupid fucking Sonichu-tier OCs are never, ever going to make him a single dime.

>>93996586
So does shit like this usually happen with comics or was Archie that bad at handeling everything while dealing with autistic writers

>>93997216
Is this loss?

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>>93996662

>ywn have Ken Pender's daddy and women issues

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It was sonicscanf's revenge.

>>93997216

Why does Knuckles work for UPS?

>>93997226
He talked about Classic fan pandering.

>>93997203
Let's hope at the very least Flynn is on the comics.

Who knows, maybe they actually got the storyline to transfer.

>>93997216

Why everyone looks like they are melting?

>>93997061
Oh man you played it? How's is it
Because if you just say it's shitty without playing you're a worse that a dogturd at the side of the road with no taste at all.
I mean, I could serve shit to you. Say it's the best french cuisine and still not figuring it out.

>>93997243
archie had lost the original copy of the contract in a fire. the judge said photocopies werent good enough

>>93997243
I don't think it's usual, though it's not like most comics aren't without some interal drama.
The main issue with KEn Penders even having a "case" is that they somehow lost his contract, either in a flooding an office fire, or he snagged it on his way out when he left the comic.

>>93997216
Can someone explain what the fuck this is?

>>93997266
I've seen it and it looks like crap. forces looks a lot better. If I wanted classic dick sucking I'd play 4

>>93997116
>what do you do?
Being the board's punching bag

>>93997092
Shut up, Boco

>>93997216
I know geoffry was a traitor
but he don't deserve this
aint no one deserves this

>>93997075
Either them or Boom. Didn't Flynn say something about something happening this weekend?

>>93997275
The judge said photocopies being good enough are a question of fact that need to be put in front of a jury. Photocopies have been deemed to be good enough by every case where the question was brought; it's just something that doesn't have defacto weight in front of a judge. Penders won on bought time.

>>93997006
Digimon never had a consistent gameplay formula between all their games to retain customers, and the anime kept bouncing around different channels.

Yu-Gi-Oh is still around though.

>>93997294
Ken Pender's epic new saga that definitely has nothing to do with echidnas in any way.

>>93997216

They all look like the T-1000 trying to copy Knuckles and the skunk dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_c2RLiCHSk&t=41s

>>93996896
You are so cool anon. You go slash the evil penders with your katana for daring to mess with sanic!

>>93996192
Maybe if Archie did not fuck over creators this would not happen.

>>93997295
>Forces looks a lot better
>Playing 4

Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself

>>93997255

Well, he had to get a job somewhere after the comic was cancelled...

>>93997314

Yes sir...

>>93997360
4 is shit but better than mania looks

>>93997216

You know it kinda feels like the art would be passable if he just gave them human designs.

>>93997374
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>93997226

I really, really don't care about classic Sonic anymore. Especially if they're literally reusing assets now.

>>93997374
How?

>>93996662
Jesus he's fucking ugly

>>93997389

No it wouldn't. His style is shit.

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>>93997374
>better than mania looks

have you ever played a video game in your life

>>93997266
>>93997131
It's Sonic Team post 2003, what fucking odds do you give the game actually being good?

>>93997393
>>93997413
because I don't fall for blind nostaligia wank

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So when's the next /co/ Marathon or /v/ ride?
When the last comic ends?

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DID YU RIKE IT?

>>93997422

He looks like a sex offender.

>>93996637
Would you rather be Ken Penders or Anthony Burch if you had to pick one?

>>93997177
>>Sally, Bunnie, Nicole, Antoine and Rotor will now be permanently retired and never appear in anything ever again

Way overdue.

They were created at a time when Sonic had no supporting cast in the games, but that was a LONG time ago. Every niche they once filled has been taken by a legitimate Sega character. The Freedom Fighter characters no longer serve any purpose and offer nothing that actual Sega characters cannot provide.

Plus, their aesthetic is totally fucking off and none of them look like they even belong in the same universe as Sonic and the other game characters. They needed to be deleted a decade ago, if not sooner.

>>93997404
Assets exist to be used. That's why they're called assets.

>>93996888
???

I feel like I could commission better artist.

I can't grasp idea someone looked at this and said this is good.

>>93997177
>but I've a feeling a lot of Hyper Autists who have been reading the book for 25 years are going to need to be put on Suicide Watch.

The only one on suicide watch right now is Ian Flynn, as he literally has NO career outside of Sonic the Hedgehog comics.

What has he done besides Sonic? Like, 2 back-ups in IDW's shitty TMNT cartoon tie-in book? The dude is going to be working at a 7-11 within a year.

>>93997443
well first of all it's not made by sonic team
secondly,
>outing yourself as an adventurefag
now we know not to take you seriously at all

>>93997177
Are they owned by Archie or are we just assuming SEGA wont allow them to be used

>>93997475
Do you realize how autistic it sounds when you say something like "legitimate Sega character"? It's on the level of Chris-chan saying he refuses to buy anything Sonic-related unless he has a legitimate arm color.

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>>93996192
F

Was killing Archie Comics apart of Ken's plan?

>>93997226
Mania falls underthe Classic pandering he was talking about.

>>93997513
co wrote jughead for 2 issues

>>93997521
But they're not legitimate sonic characters. They don't exist in any original japanese media, they're entirely U.S. inventions, like Scrounder, Snively, and the entire Mean Bean Machine video game

>>93996792
really? was it a tweet or some obscure forum post?

>>93997177
>>93997518

The SatAM characters are owned by Sega. however, they were not created by Sega and are not authentic game characters, so Sega has no use for them.

Sega also owns all the characters created for Fleetway's Sonic the Comic. But we haven't seen Johnny Lightfoot or Porker Lewis show up in anything since StC got canned, now have we? Sega has 0 interest in these non-canon characters made up for comics and cartoons that the Japanese don't even know about. They are all now essentially extinct.

>>93997443
Judging by the record of all the sonic games released the last few years.
With the exception of Sonic 4 Episode 1. The rest were ok to pretty good.

>>93997555
Grounder is in Sonic 2 though, and Scratch is based on the Clucker from Wing Fortress IIRC.

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>>93996192
Archie Sonic dead

DC's Sonic Rebirth incoming, now 50% less SatAM shit

>>93997521
Sega didn't make them. Their only game appearance was in the background of a pinball game. They're no more real Sonic characters than Chris Thorndyke.

>>93996326
Why does Ken Penders look like he secretly has a shit fetish?

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>>93996192
Good.

>>93997555
Yep, "legitimate sonic characters" will continue to be an extremely autistic thing to say, but keep whining about SATAM characters (I assume you're the guy who does it in every Sonic thread like clockwork).

>>93997477

I bet you think New Super Mario Bros. is fucking stellar too huh

Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8rpj92zYCs

>>93997177

Just a reminder that the SatAM characters all have official Sega counterparts who can do everything they can.

>Rotor/Tails: Inventor and mechanic
>Bunnie/Knuckles: Strong person
>Sally/Amy: Boring love interest
>Antoine/Shadow: Sonic's rival

There is no reason to use ANY of them ever again; they can all be substituted with a Sega character at this point.

>>93996823
Do you believe that Mario carries the Mario & Sonic game sales?

I believe there's still an audience for the blue blur, though personally I hope Sega pulls back from Sonic and lets some of their less prominent series shine every once and awhile.

>>93997633
In what way are Antoine and Shadow anything alike? Why are you trying to pass off "strong person" as an actual category?

>>93997518
All the cartoon and comic characters are owned by Sega, but they have no interest in using them in games.

Whoever gets the comic license next may or may not have access to them depending on what Sega actually allows them to do.

>>93997621
Which one? NSMB was great. NSMB2 was godawful. NSMB WiiU was fucking fantastic.

Behold, the last page to feature the Freedom Fighters.

For wathever it's worth, the rebooted universe did get closure in its main arc adapting Sonic Unleashed. It does kind of work as a finale.

>>93997560
I think it was said from his SonicRetro account.

>>93997662
It's a copypasted from a previous thread.

>>93997618
>but keep whining about SATAM characters

At this point, the anti-SatAM character crowd isn't whining. We're gloating.

WE WON.

Those shitty fanfic-tier characters will never be seen again. Ever. Suck it, autismos.

So question. When a publisher loses the rights to a licensed series, what happens to digital copies of them? I recently started buying issues of Sonic on Comixology and I would eventually like to buy more. Will the comics continue to be available on there or will they get removed after a certain period of time? If they're getting removed, will there be any notice for when that will be?

>Just pirate them
Older issues are in better quality on Comixology than in scans.

>>93996406
MAHVEL BAYBEE

>>93997630
actual thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrpglqYeQBc

>>93997697
You don't seem to understand what the word "fanfic" means. It's okay, I understand you likely have a condition.

>>93997350
im crying... im actually fucking crying...

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Say what you will about the OC's or the use of the old cartoon material. Point out the major dip in quality it suffered for YEARS if you like. This comic kept Sonic alive long enough to get his second wind. It wasn't always good, sometimes it was garbage, but it still meant something to some people. I hope the Freedom Fighters will see new life but this is probably their final destination.

I'll miss it.

>>93997674
>Whoever gets the comic license next may or may not have access to them depending on what Sega actually allows them to do.

Sega has a lot of mandates regarding what characters can be used, though.

They wouldn't let Archie use the "classic Eggman" character (whom they consider separate from the current Eggman for some reason) in a flashback issue, so he had to be hidden in shadow. Eggman Nega is off limits. The Sonic Boom writers aren't allowed to use any non-game characters, etc.

Sega is very strict on what characters can be used in licensed media. 100% certain the next licensee won't be permitted to use the Archie/SatAM cast and will be restricted to the game characters.

After all, the comics are intended to advertise the games, otherwise Sega would have no need to license them. Princess Sally Acorn and Rotor Walrus and Antoine on your comic cover isn't advertising any Sega games, so it benefits them in no way.

>>93997216
is that shading or does Knuckles have black hair on top of his drills?

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>>93997688
Fuck me I forgot pic.
Good night, sweet fighters.

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>>93997203
>That's another thing Archie did that Sega sucked at, keeping old characters alive and in the spotlight and depicting them respectably.

Sonic Forces is practically giving every side character something to do unlike the recent games that have been simply Sonic, Tails and Eggman affairs.

>>93997712
IIRC the comixology versions have no DRM so you can just download them as pdfs if they get taken down

>>93996302
>Blame One Piece for increasing sales of Japanese comics while comics in every other country were getting killed by the internet.
I've only ever read one piece on the internet, everyone I know who reads it does the same, how did it have such a big effect?

>>93997216
How was this man able to get a job at Archie anyway?

>>93997633
This is the most basic comparison completely discounting the fact that none of the SATAM characters act remotely like the characters you compared them to.

>>93997803
He was friends with an editor, I think.

Rest in peace Egg Bosses. Especially you Kukku, Thunderbolt, and Maw

>>93997712
>So question. When a publisher loses the rights to a licensed series, what happens to digital copies of them?

They'll be removed from your inventory after the next system update. Same thing iTunes does when it loses licenses to discographies from certain labels. You lose them.

That's why physical media is always the safest bet. Only way you'll lose them is through your own incompetence, not a corporate contract dispute.

>>93997799
That's not what I'm worried about. I'm asking if they'll remain available for purchase.

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>>93997177
>>Sally, Bunnie, Nicole, Antoine and Rotor will now be permanently retired and never appear in anything ever again

They'll live on in porn.

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>>93996192
Leave Sonic to me, Sega

>>93997876
Will based Didio save the Egg Bosses? That's all I really care about.

Do you guys think Sega will let Archie at least give the series some kind of sendoff? Or at the very least let them release Overdrive and Genesis of a Hero?

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Reminder that Sonic was never good

>>93997871
The porn will stop as the characters fade from memory, only resurfacing in nostalgia threads a decade from now.

>>93997770
>>93997674
>>93997177

The bigger reason why the SatAM or Archie original characters will never be seen again has nothing to do with some sort of animosity toward them that Sega Japan has or whatever some of you are projecting.

It's that twice now, TWICE, Sega has been dragged into lawsuits from American writers who created these non-game characters. Sega likely sees the SatAM/Archie well as 100% tainted at this point. Why risk using ANY of those characters when there's always the threat that some writer might crawl out of the woodwork and file yet another lawsuit? It's best to play it safe and stick to game characters.

>>93997924
Seems like the ties are cut officially, so that's very likely a no.

>>93997609
>Why does Ken Penders look like he secretly has a shit fetish?
I would consider his Sonic fetish to be pretty un-secretive.

>>93997216
All these years and he still hasn't learned to properly color. That shading is disgusting.

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This wouldn't sadden me and frustrate me so much had the comic not turned out so great after the cosmic reboot. Lot's of actually good new characters, classic characters repurposed competently, and a great balance in both tone and content for fans of the games and the comics alike. It's such a shame that many people didn't even give it a chance but I sure am following wathever Ian Flynn does next, as he's shown to be very good at doing his job.

>>93997947
Fuck off IGN

>>93997570
What about cosmo?

>>93996989
I think part of the problem is that anons here want there to be another ride, but nobody wants to be the person locked into several weeks worth of daily storytimes. We're talking a series that was published monthly for 24 years, had two spin-offs, two TV show tie-in series, another video game comic that crossed over with it, a monthly series of double sized specials, several one-shot specials, about half a dozen mini-series, and various other odds and ends.

It's something on the order of 500 issues overall, so no one is brave enough to bite the bullet. (Just, if someone here does, you can refrain from Brazilian Mega Man. I don't know what the fuck the previous anon was thinking with that.)

>>93997947
the door is right there

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Source: a man who has openly and proudly admitted he has never played a single game from the franchise

>>93997781

Yeah great we get to hear them talk through a radio. Woo. Maybe they'll get to be in mission mode. How exciting.

>>93997630
I'd say this is the most fitting theme
https://youtube.com/watch?v=t_c2RLiCHSk

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>>93997950
>The porn will stop as the characters fade from memory,

Don't be naive. You know how furries fixate on their waifus.

Fifi from Tiny Toons hasn't been seen or heard from in anything in 20 years, but there are still new lews/porns of her out every week.

The Sonic autists and furry porn communities will be pumping out lewd art of these characters from here to eternity.

>>93997697
Congratulations, I guess? You were so concerned about something you didn't even like that you let it bother you, and now 300+ issues of that thing still exist even though the contract will be ending. But yeah, totally, you...you definitely won. Good for you.

>>93997950
Not really. People still make porn of Sara from the OVA & that big-tittied girl from AOSTH.

>>93997967
Thing is, the reason the FFs & AOSTH characters was used in the reboot was because there was no legal threats that could stem from using them. Both times SEGA got dragged into lawsuits, it was because of the preboot cast.

>>93997781
You know damn well antine who isnt the oc, sonic, or eggman is a cheerleader

>>93997660
>>>93996823
>Do you believe that Mario carries the Mario & Sonic game sales?

Yes i do chris. Sonic games have been god awful since the dreamcast. Kids now a days werent even alive then. Just because you cant get over the fact tan arms and shitty games ruin franchises doesnt mean that everyone else has. Mascots die. Its sonics time to go to the riverlands.

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>Archie/SatAM characters are gone forever
>next comic will feature only game-related stuff approved by our masters at Sega

Aw yeah, can't wait for the Big the Cat to get his own arc.

>>93997834

Well Kukku was an actual game character.

But still RIP, since he's not a character from the Genesis Trilogy or Sonic CD.

>>93998032
He's right. How will Sonic ever be a gaming giant without his OC echidnas?

I'll miss the world more than anything. I really liked the dynamic between the Mobians, Overlanders and humans as a kid and was always bummed they never tried to do that in the games. They did similar things, but Mobius was never fleshed out in official Sega media. It's become eminently clear in the past decade that no one really knows what to do with Sonic.

>>93996192
Damn you, Penders!

>>93998084
Something you loved has been taken away from you and you will never get it back.

Seeing that warms my heart.

>>93997802
Because autists have to blame something. I dont remember the last time i ever held a physical copy of WSJ. Yet i do remember seeing sonic comics on the shelves in grocery stores. That didnt help it. It didnt help it because the fanbase is dwindling and full of autists who scare away new fans.

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>>93996586
>Archie's own incompetence (if you can remember that kickstarter they tried to pull)
Please redpill me on this.

>>93998153
Sorry about your mom.

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>>93996826
>All this shit started because of fucking Bioware

>>93998131

Dude, Sega delocalized the American version of Sonic over a decade ago. "Mobius" never existed. Or "Robotnik". If it wasn't in the Japanese version, it doesn't count in any country.

I don't particularly care about Sonic comics and only read them for a couple of years as a kid (and that was in the dark age), but the least they could do for a long running series like that is let them go long enough to offer some kind of conclusion. At least let it hit the big 300.
Ah well. I hope someone does a ride. I might actually read it.

>>93996192

penders is a fat fucking fuck up

>>93998169
>Please redpill me on this.

When Archie announced their Riverdale relaunches starring "hot" creators like Waid, it was originally as a Kickstarter exclusive.

It backfired horribly. First, it was terrible press, because Archie still tried to portray itself as a major publisher, but they were utilizing a channel reserved mostly for startups and poor nobodies.

Secondly, it cut out the comic retailers completely, and they were so pissed that they threatened to cut orders on the existing Archie titles.

Archie had to cancel the Kickstarter and fund the Riverdale series relaunch out of pocket, but most of the damage had already been done.

>"Sonic is dying" shitposting
The Dreamcast dying couldn't kill Sonic. 06 didn't kill Sonic. Rise of Lyric didn't kill Sonic. This franchise isn't dying anytime soon.

>>93998195
>but the least they could do for a long running series like that is let them go long enough to offer some kind of conclusion.

Dude, no. Archie as a publisher and licensee did not deserve that sort of consideration. Their utter incompetence dragged Sega into two lawsuits which probably cost them who knows how much money in legal fees, all because of some shit licensee that couldn't get its act together.

Archie got a second chance after the Penders suit and they BLEW IT by enabling the Fulop suit. Sega was well in the right to yank the license from them before they had a chance to do even MORE damage.

>>93997633
>Knuckles deals with being part bandit
>Amy is a major political figure
>Shadow is based
>Knuckles and Shadow are in a very cute, stable, drama free relationship

nah

>>93998274

No one said Sonic is dying. Just this version.

>>93998191
Except he's still called Robotnik, just like Gerald Robotnik is named that in every version.

>>93998153
Well, yes, if I was a faggot like you and dwelled on shit like this. Unfortunately for you, I'm not a faggot like you, and am content with the 300+ issues of the comics that many comic websites carry in entirety. See, Archie's Sonic was the longest running video game comic in history. So even if it ends, there's still literally hundreds of stories to reminisce on. It's not 'taken away from me' as long as I can still read it, talk about it, and enjoy it.

But feel free to continue acting like a grade schooler who doesn't understand any concept besides the physical. It's pretty hilariously autistic.

>>93998302

Sega Japan has never called Eggman "Robotnik". His Sega Channel profile lists his real name as "Unknown".

Gerald Robotnik may have carried the name in SA2, but Eggman has never had that name himself in any Japanese media. It is non-canon.

>>93998353
I know I'm speaking to the wind, but are you seriously dumb enough to think that Eggman wouldn't share the name Robotnik with his grandfather, for no apparent reason?

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>>93997216

>>93998344
>content with the 300+ issues of the comics

And less than 100 of those issues are even readable. Are you REALLY proud and happy to have all those Dark Ages issues?

Fuck off. You lost. Your waifus are gone and never coming back. Go cry some more or maybe write me another paragraph or two about how you totally aren't upset and it doesn't bother you at all for real, ahahaha.

>>93998353

Hell they actually joked about that in Generations.

>>93998111
Please. Sega wants to sweep Big under the rug, with only the occasional Webber Brand meme to remind us he existed.

Meanwhile Big was a functional freedom fighter who solo'd a giant Silver Sonic in the Archie series.

>>93996329
True. Archie Eggman was awesome.

It's somehow fitting that Sonic would die via autism.

>>93998391
Show us on the doll where Sally touched you, anon.

>>93998383
Not the person you're replying to, but they're right. Robotnik is not canon, eggman is his canon name and always has been.
SA2 was developed by SoA where the name came from in the first place. It's the only reason it's used in that game.

>>93996861
How was bioware involved in this shit?

>>93996192
DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD

>>93998416
>Hell they actually joked about that in Generations.

English version only. The "nobody calls me THAT anymore" line wasn't in the original Japanese script.

>>93998464
Robotnik is not canon, in spite of the name Robotnik showing up in multiple canon games, even in Japanese.

No wonder people shit on the Sonic fanbase, the level of autism is extraordinary.

>>93998131
I'll miss the world too but more what Flynn and the others had been doing recently, by fleshing out the locations past writers established and giving them Egg Bosses and things like that.

>>93998295
Yeah, Sega already did as much as a fan could hope for by continuing to license the comic even after the bizarre conclusion of the Penders lawsuit. Ken Penders now has this absurd – and something that runs the risk of being twisted to form a bizarre precedent against them in the future – legal right of being able to make Knuckles fanart and comics. He has to make it 'visually distinctive', but he's obviously fine with that.

The Fulop lawsuit basically had no other way for Sega to interepret it except as "look, it's happening again, despite assurances from Archie that Penders was a one-off. we have no idea how many other writers are gonna come out of the woodwork on this one. let's put this on hold, but this probably can't be going on anymore"

>>93998300
>No one said Sonic is dying. Just this version.
Sega's statement is very politely worded, but I'd be surprised if they actually license a comic again. I doubt anyone has much interest in it, especially since Sega now has a very specific vision for Sonic going forwards, and it's probably not going to jive with writers who know you need a huge cast and a lot of settings to tell a serial narrative, and Sega clearly wants a cast no larger than what you see in Sonic Boom/Generations, and preferably everything stays in something looking vaguely Green Hills-ish. That works for Disney-fying your franchise to sell lunch bags and keychains, but it doesn't help write a comic for more than a few issues.

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>>93996192
Good.

Maybe next they'll kill off Sonic in it's entirety.

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>>93998391
Damn, look at this tough guy. Are those 100 issues as unreadable as Sonic 2006 is unplayable?

>>93998464
Canon or not, Eggman is a pretty stupid name. But I haven't played the games in years and I haven't read this comic, so my opinion is mostly irrelevant.

>>93998474

Remember Sonic Chronicles? They made a bunch of echidnas that were expies of the Archie cast as an homage. No malice intended.

Penders found out and its off to the races.

>>93998533
To be fair, sort of? But even those comics you can speed-read through or ocassionally get something out of them despite them all beinglabeled "dark ages", while 06 you atctually have to play through.

>>93998474
Because Sonic Chronicles (a game Bioware developed for Sega) had some story elements that were similar to what Penders wrote for the comic, this was one of the key things that started his lawsuit against Archie.

>>93998535

Dude, at this point he has been called Eggman in the US longer than he was ever called "Robotnik".

Get over it.

>>93996348
Why are we still here? Just to suffer.

>>93996811
Why does it have hair on top of its hair? Am I supposed to think that those are tendrils on knuckles head? Everything about this makes my brain hurt

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>>93998505
>even in japanese
Show me one mainline game made by Sega of Japan that actually states his name as doctor robotnik and not eggman please.
The west decided to localise it like this and SoJ are doing their best to bring everyone up to speed with the actual canon.

>>93998535
I agree, but it's a goofy name for a sort of goofy villain anyway.

>Sega gives Sanic franchise to some indie publisher
>Sonic has become a black fluidgender
>Tails is now otherkin
>Amy is actually an asian trans
>Gender issues is the main theme of the new reboot
Are you guys ready?

>>93998600

Oh Prime...I'm so so sorry...

To clear it up, Robotnik was the original name of the character and Eggman was sort of an insulting nickname that everyone gave to him (because, you know, he's fat). And they just went with Eggman more and more, probably because its more memorable and unique to the character than Robotnik was.

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>>93996666
>RIP in peace.
YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE ME

>>93998590
I'm allowed to think a name is stupid, anon. And as I've said, I haven't given a shit about Sonic since the 90s, so I think I got over it a long time ago.

>>93998613

You're describing a Marvel comic, not an indie comic, anon.

Is this all ken panders fault?
Because I'm going to blame it all on him

>>93998535
Eggman corresponds more to a villain who was never supposed to be that competent. Yeah, you'll have the occasionally threatening looking mech, but I think to the Japanese audience, those were more cobbled together machinations from a ridiculous looking badguy with melodramatic music, who Sonic was about to BTFO and you'd laugh watching some comically fat man run off a platform. Eggman is meant to be goofy.


For American kids, especially if you grew up on SATAM, the name Robotnik inspired way more malevolence and you had the impression of a more competent villain. Just by giving him a different name and building his reputation up in other media, Robotnik was a really clever way of turning a idiot into a legit threat.

SA/SA2 does a good job reconciling these two different impressions, by introducing a stupid, but pretty mean-spirited antagonist, but the real threat of the game ultimately comes from something he unleashes (Chaos monster, Biohazard, etc.). The whole "Eggman accidentally unleashes unspeakable evil" has obv.s become the series template, and with each iteration, they've made Eggman a bit more of a goofy bad guy each time, and so more in line with the originally intended character.

>>93998655
It actually appears to be.

>>93998032
the fuck does he think he is? sonics was above and beyond with the comic and he ruined it

>>93998640
Marvel mostly tackles feminism, but yeah they're all the same.

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>>93998593
They're obviously designed to look like dreadlocks, but they're supposed to be quills. Like an echidna has. Archie artists drew them all floppy like tentacles. And furthermore added hair on top.

>>93998525
>Sonic
>dying
Keep dreaming

>>93998655
The blame is between Penders & Archie.

>>93998655
No, it's Archie's fault for not properly defending the publishing right of his own franchise against a shabby lawsuit.

>>93997993
>but I sure am following wathever Ian Flynn does next
Well, what he's doing right now is holding Mark Waid's cock on Archie

>>93998655

Half Ken, half Archie not having a fucking file cabinet.

>>93998685

Also, apparently their dreadlocks are flesh and can be replaced with cyborg implants.

>>93998655
Archie, Bioware, Penders, Fulop

>>93998607
>The west decided to localise it like this and SoJ are doing their best to bring everyone up to speed with the actual canon.
When will the historical injustice done to the Sonic the Hedgehog canon be rectified?

You have autism

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Be honest /co/ wich one was your favourite?

>Archie never made a SEGA Presents... monthly, which has a different artist/writer team give their own take on a classic SEGA game every few issues
>We will never get continuations of classic franchises like Golden Axe, Phantasy Star, Space Channel 5, or Skies of Arcadia because Sega's gaming division is nothing but Sonic and Yakuza

>>93998585
To be entirely frank, 06 is just frustratingly and vanilla bad. There's a lot more stuff like THIS one that are not only frustratingly bad but thematically confusing bad.

I'm really hoping the best for Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces. We really need a good Sonic game. Sadly it seems like SEGA doesn't really keep the character around in mind of making him a tangible, flowing story and world but rather just because he's their mascot. Like, outside of the comic world name 'Mobius', I honestly can't find a name for the world that the games are supposed to take place in (OVA's Planet Freedom doesn't count). Stuff like that just makes me wonder if there's just no one at the helm for figuring Sonic out.

>>93996302
That makes no sense.

>>93998666
In Forces, he's taken over the world, like how it was in the SatAM cartoon and the Archie comics.

But it looks like there's still some greater evil involved.

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>>93998593
Penders treats the quills/dreadlocks as being floppy tentacles.

leading to double hair, cyborg hair, and prehensile hair used to walk around

>>93998743
Red Sonic

>>93998732
Dunno what you're so buttblasted about anon, all I did was say eggman was the canon name. Not sure why this is upsetting you.

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>>93998745
goddammit I forgot my picture

>>93998743
Red Sonic

>>93998744

Hopefully IDW can.

>>93998743
Mari Su

>>93998773
Black knight was fun though.

>>93998743
So did Penders just give up on coming up with female echidnas?

>>93998743
How has SEGA not shat on Penders over this already? Are derivatives like this allowed? If so, it's just in poor taste, I mean, Knuckles' origin is from an indian-like clan. What's with all the alien names? It just looks off alongside "Knuckles"

>>93997609
It's the haircut/mustache/glasses combo, kinda like Doug Winger

>>93998743
>tfw Penders turned a kids' adventure comic into the fucking Young and Restless
Seriously what the fuck was his problem?

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>>93998790
Oh god that's actually on there

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The rebooted universe was hitting its stride, the abrupt ending with Naugus left be butthurt but I loved where it was going. But now the several cosmic resets all seem like a waste since it cleaned everything up just to vanish a little while afterwards.

I'll look forward to the new Sonic comics from whoever makes them. But it just wont be the same.

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Can you believe that in the midst of the Penders suit, Archie actually pitched a Mario comic to Nintendo? While suffering the consequences of their own incompetence as licensees, they actually thought they could secure a license from Nintendo.

Archie really is that arrogant and unaware. (Naturally, Nintendo told them to fuck right off.)

>>93996497
How ghe fuck did I forget his Mary Sue was called Lara-Su.

>>93998655
Archie for hiring what may be THE most incompetent crew of lawyers to exist on this planet (and for hiring Penders in the first place) and Penders for pushing his bullshit so many times (I guarantee we'll see some tweet from him soon enough about how he's gonna try and get that sweet SEGA Sonic license all for himself now that Archie doesn't have it).

>>93998811
He is a giant faggot

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>>93998743
Finitevus was cool.

>>93998857

Oh, he's already tweeted. He bragged that now only he can publish Knuckles and Mobius 25YL comics.