Really, Bendis?

>>93988057
Honestly, how is Riri seen as anything but a villain?

>>93988057
Is she supposed to be a hero?

>>93988057
Hey, her forming into a doomlite is more interesting than another Tony.

But bendis won't do that.

>>93988117
She's a SLAAAAY QUEEEN. Literally now, I guess.
>>93988121
>First, WE WUZ KANGZ
>Then, WE WUZ IRON MANZ
>Now... WE WUZ DOCTOR DOOMZ

>>93988057
Was he the same guy who thought that Carol was justified in minority reporting people and Inhumans were justified in genociding the mutant species because they wanted to add to their circle jerk?

>>93988057
>Queen
Wait, what the fuck happened to Tony???????

Wait, how come Doom didn't come back to wreck her shit for trying to overthrow his country?

>>93988057
I don´t see the problem that americas´foreing policy most of the time

>>93988057
Shit is she becoming a villain for real now? Would check out if I didn't want to support Marvel's state of editorial. Not buying shit til they change things for real, mildly interesting or not.

>Blacks were the true slavs, baka, those damn whiteys stealing our Latverian history

>>93988201
He's an AI that bendis pretends is somehow the "real" Tony just digital. Which is bull, since no body = no soul = not Tony.

>>93988175

Is Carol and Riri a social commentary on America or something?

>>93988211
Cause Doom's doing other stuff with Sorcerer Supreme Tony

>>93988057
Just make her into the new Doom already.
For it to just be so much sweeter when the real Doom stomp her autistic ass.

>>93988057
Based riri. Flawed n nuts.

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>>93988308

>>93988238
Bendis is just shit, Anon. No need to think he's anything deeper than that.

>>93988057

WE

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>>93988350

>>93988057
Wait a second, why exactly is Riri invading Latveria here?

>>93988057
Best solution:
>make almost every swj-cuck fetish "diverse" Marvel Legacy hero a villain
>get them beaten up by real Marvel heroes
>forget that legacy ever happend

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>>93988374

>>93988057
WE

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What happened to Dr Doom?

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>>93988429

>>93988442
He's Iron Man now

>>93988057
Having a reveal of Riri being planned to be a villain all along, and she was introduced alongside other replacement heroes as a means to actually show an organic growth of power corrupting an impressionable hound mind until she goes completely mad with power and takes the "put the world in a bottle" approach would be great.

But it's not going to be that. They'll just try and justify it.

>>93988449
Haha, fucking NICE!

>Doom strolls on out with not a care in the world

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>>93988057
dis bitch

The time her and the Tony-AI had a firefight involving multiple armour shooting munitions at each other over and around New York was way more evil.

Why didn't Captain Marvel show up and arrest them?

When will this shit end? When is Marvel going to stop forcing these new diverse characters and just go back to the ones everyone wants?

>>93988449
so did he and selene did it afterwards?

he did brag he's not going to be like the others she had before.

>>93988117

I don't know, because she just knocked a villain on her ass?

If international law protects mass murderers, should we abide by it?

Jeez. This looks like the first interesting thing to happen in this comic.

>>93988057
Diversity and Comics is going to love this.

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>>93988201

Carol knocked him into a coma at the end of 'Civil War 2' .

>>93988057
Diversity in Comics was right, she is a villain?

>>93988565
According to sales numbers and retail shares, people want this badly written diversity.

>>93988599
>Implying that Latveria isn't a paradise under the guidance of Doom

>>93988637
>see villain
>break international law to punch her
>declare yourself QUEEN of a foreign nation
>???
>profit!

>>93988442

Got knocked on his ass at the end of Secret Wars, but woke up in the newly remade 616 universe with a healed face. He decided "Fuck it, villainy is for the birds" and now he's trying to be good. After Tony was rendered comatose he put on armor - either his own or Tony's, it's not clear - and began working as Iron Man.

>>93988697

Oh come on. Heat of battle. "Yeah, I'm the queen now, beeyotch!"

But even if she does this - which I doubt - it would at least be interesting. Riri would make a more natural Doctor Doom than an Iron Man.

>>93988684

It isn't.

It's a slave pen. Or if you want to be nice, a sheep pen.

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>>93988738
Doomfags finally did it! You bastards ruined everything!

>>93988211
he abdicated after secret wars

>>93988237
anon, Tony has been an AI jumping in and out of meat sacks for quite a while now

>>93988864
Eh, not really. During the Fraction run he just backed his memories. He never disregarded his original body. They even brought in Doctor Strange for the transfer. If you're referring to the Crossing, then technically he's 3 people in 1. Traitor/Old Tony, Teen Tony & Heroes Reborn Tony. But he's not like Rhodey who completely abandoned his body for example.

>>93988738
>either his own or Tony's, it's not clear
his armor has all kinds of voodoo shit and runes that only show up under blacklight etc that tony doesn't know the first thing about. doom built it.

>>93988668
Why don't they use Extremis to wake him up?

>>93988057

yaaaaaaasssss queen

slay bitch

>>93988057

>Superheroes trying to take over Latveria

This has never ever worked...it didn't work when Reed tried...it didn't work when Nick Fury tried.

Only Doom can rule Latveria.

>>93988057
>Literally YAAS SLAY QUEEEN

>>93988836

Doom seriously trying to be a hero was inevitable, sooner or later.

>>93988939

Source on that though?

>>93988962

What is 'Extremis'?

It, like Arno Stark, has not been heard of since Secret Wars.

>>93989000
>Not wanting to see Riri get ass blasted when ruling a country.

Too bad Bendis is writing.

>>93988057
This isn't as interesting as future Valerie becoming Doom, and the Queen of Hell.

>>93988057
why do you do this? you did it last time. started the thread with just one fucking image. Fucking story time it next time faggot, now if someone wants to storytime they have to do it in another thread or else someone will miss it here, and it will get storytimed twice

>>93989056

So less than zero?

>>93988738
That means we have more than one Iron Man running around now?

>>93989173
We have 3

We have
Iron Man ("AI" Tony, Secret Empire)
Iron Man (Victor von Doom, Infamous Iron Man)
Ironheart (Riri Williams, Invincible Iron Man)

I think there might also be an Iron Patriot running around, but not Lila Rhodes.

>>93988962
Because Bendis.
He has a plan for how things are going to go down and he's not going to acknowledge any easily available in-universe solutions

>>93989504
Toni Ho is Iron Patriot over on the USAvengers

>>93990084
Right, thought we had one
so we have 4 Iron Man type guys at the moment, two of which are wearing the actual Iron Man name and two of which are in ongoings called Iron Man

>>93990150
And none of them are the real Iron Man, Tony Stark. Go figure.

>>93990278
Eh, I think it was just revealed that AI Tony is the real Tony, as Tony merged his brain with the AI or something. desu I didn't read the issue

>>93988057
How the fuck is she considered the hero here.

>>93990443
Bendis Shilling

>>93988738
He just gave up on Latveria?

>>93988237
Looks like somebody didn't read FF: The End

>>93988057
HOL UP!

>>93989504
>>93990084

Not to mention a new War Machine....

storytime here >>93990723


>>93990551
he basically peaced the fuck out and left the country in ruins, some lady moved in to take over.

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>>93991266

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Is RyRy a worse OC than Ultimate Tony's Richer Brother, Gregory Stark?

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>Latveria clearly ruled by a Von. I declare myself a queen. Even though I have no lineage or birthright
>'' I have best you in single combat, that means I rule this nation now ''

WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LOGIC?

Please let her become "doomheart" and wear a fem docter doom suit or a grey iron man suit.

>>93988397
>He was Doomguy all along.

How could we not have seen this coming?

>>93991368
Pretty how Monarchy used to work back in the day

Take country, hold it when someone tries to take it from you, we Queen now.

>>93988532
>South Africa.
>Mandela being the good guy.

Hahahaha.

>>93991766
He's under mind control. Everyone is.

>>93991703
If you tried to take over a country without even a badly forged claim of bloodties to royalty you'd be free game for everyone around you.

Nothing worse to royalty than peasants deciding to rule.

>>93988637

I take it you were a fan of Operation Iraqi Freedom

>>93991339
That's just Daniel Craig with a goatee.

>>93988924
Rhodey did what now...

>>93989504
i honestly dont even know what the fuck is going on in current marvel anymore

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>>93988117
Because pic related.

>>93988057
that was actually pretty cool
am I supposed to be mad?

>>93988057
hey if this upsets Doomfags then I will enjoy this, and from the looks of it Doomfags are very upset.

>>93988159
Agreed on both counts. We cant have their super-special racial minority character do anything INTERESTING or undergo a tragic turn of heart or else the mythical fans will riot because racial minority characters have to be perfect angels at all times.

>>93988393
Sounds good to me

>>93988057
>This is an act of War!
Um, she started it. Literally, she started t by launching an attack on US soil. Not to mention that her authority as Head of State of Latveria isn't recognized by anyone.
Really, I don't understand why SHIELD didn't just retaliate themselves instead of sending Riri, they had more than enough evidence anyway.

>>93988057
Why am I not surprised that a Jew is endorsing neochenism?

>>93988637
>If international law protects mass murderers, should we abide by it?

Yes and no.

The law - any law, not just international - ideally protects everybody. In practice this isn't always the case - corruption, institutional bias, and the simple economics of providing 24/7 law enforcement coverage mean that some are denied justice.

But as far as the law itself goes, yes, we should extend the protections it requires to criminals; otherwise, we run the very real risk of the law being perverted to a mere tool of revenge, not directed by our peers but by powerful individuals who tire of "the bad guys" "getting away with it".

Take Pinochet as an example. Mass-murderer or director of mass-murder, take your pick; fucked up his home country so bad it's still fucked up today, the economy is in the shitter and corruption is widespread.

He did spent 8 full years under house arrest in London after visiting and being arrested there. You might say that's not justice; that this obvious failure/obvious criminal escaped punishment for his failure/crimes. But leaving aside the issue of whether a gilded cage still feels like a cage to the occupant, his arrest and detention led to an important sea-change in international law, as he slowly but surely exhausted every possible argument that might have seen him released. Even as he started his ninth decade of life he was clearly afraid of being prosecuted, and argued vehemently against the right of nations to arrest heads of state or former heads of state; this argument was heard and rebutted by the courts so that today it's much, much simpler to both arrest and try dictators for their bullshit.

In a very real sense we have Pinochet - and the money he stole which he mostly ended up spending on jailing himself in opulence and funding his defense - to thank for that. Unless he'd been granted the right to argue his case, instead of being knocked on his ass, we'd still have uncertainty about the legitimacy of his position today.

>>93992455
neochenism?

>>93988697
>See head of state
>break law to punch him
>declare yourself KING of a nation
>???
>profit!
and that's how Doom got a country

>>93988637
>>93992462
The international law argument is moot because
>Von Bardas is a wanted criminal who has attacked America several times, and just attacked America again a few hours ago, trying to kill Sharon Carter with a bomb, then sending an assassin that confessed that Bardas hired her
>Von Bardas' authority hasn't been recognized by any country, SHIELD didn't even know she was in charge now
>Latveria has been a warzone for months with several countries and factions involved, there is no real government or order

>>93989173
AI Tony(Iron Man)
Doctor Doom (Iron Man too)
Riri Williams(Ironheart)
Pepper Potts(Rescue)
Toni Ho(Iron Patriot)

>>93991266
who?

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>>93993100
FRANK

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Wow, NuMarvel is like a MAD comic skit about companies trying to appeal to everyone but fails.

>>93988117
I haven't been reading this but if black ironwoman becomes the iron fisted queen of latveria then it will all have been worth it

But it go that way

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Why didn't they used original war machines niece? She is a super smart little black girl.

>>93992472
Neoconservatism. Many important thinkers from this philosophy were jewish, often seeming to support it because it benefits Israel to invade anti-Israeli dictatorships in the middle east like Iraq. A philosophy which advocates using American power to forcibly democratize the world, no matter how many casualties result.

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>>93994620

>>93988165
That's one of the most swiped images in comics. , btw.m

>>93994897
I think it has something to do with commissions

>>93988057
I had to go check just to make sure you didn't take this from Carol's war.

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>>93994897
>>93995102
Even if bendis used that girl, he will write her as RIRI Williams.

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>>93988806
Dr. Strange says it's not.

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>>93988057
>Doom will end up jobbing to her either physically or verbally

>>93988057
>Implying this appeals to literally any of the people who actually stuck with the initial concept past Bendis' shit writing.

I feel bad for them, honestly, because imagine being genuinely excited about this and then just watching Bendis crash it into the ground because he doesn't have any good ideas past her name, face and the armour.

>>93994620
I am hype

>doombot shows up immediately at the words "act of war" and vaporizes iron shart
>doom's still the hero of marvel

>>93994897
She was already a Warmachine, too, wasn't she?

I think we had this discussion when we thought of it last and it came down to two things:

1) New characters are more marketable, see: X-23's flop as wolverine.
2) It would require Bendis to remember something that happened more than six months ago.

>>93992462
Pinochet unironically saved Chile. It's the most stable, wealthy, and well-off country in South America. I'm not going to defend his methods, but it's wrong to claim that he fucked up Chile when it would have other wise been just another failed socialist hellhole

>>93988738
>implying Doom thought what he was doing was villainy
Who the fuck wrote that garbage?

>>93992501
Yes. And Doom is a villain

>>93995286
Of course he isn't, doom is the greatest ruler of all time
PRAISE DOOM

Fuuuuck, just imagine how fucking good it would be if Ironheart becomes the ruthless dictator of Latveria and with time gets more warped by her sheltered never questioned genius and start killing criminals.
Finally we get to see a climax when Iron Doom returns and they fight resulting in her complete obliteration.

This will never happen.

>>93988057
She is probably going to used land to search for Tony.

And then, give it back to Doctor doom. And doctor doom will probably fund tony stark for a while.

>>93988596
And if he isn't, he won't feel guilty about it!

>>93996144
>Implying he is a villian

>>93996738
This whole, "the universe becomes a utopia with Doom in charge" thing needs to fucking stop. I know there was one time an angel or whatever told him that, but jesus christ the universe has been rebooted like twice since then.

>>93988057
Borders are arbitrary

Armies can invade and refugees can migrate.

>>93988163
I feel somewhat amused that retards spouting /pol/ memes are too stupid to realize Kang is an actual character.

Remind me, wasn't there an issue in which Doom used the Vakanda panther god to look into the future and it saw that Doom's beliefs were true and he would really usher an utopia?

>>93988637
A mercenary killing Kim Jong Un and taking the reins of Best Korea would cause a number of international issues.

>>93992095
Rhodey got fucked up (probably tony's fault) and Tony made him a clone body to go into.

>>93988057
Holy shit. Until I read the last bubble I was unaware that this was the female replacement Iron Man and just thought this was a scan of Tony being a total heel and a thread dedicated to complaining about Iron Fuhrer. You mean she's supposed to be a good guy?

>>93997874
is this bait?

>>93994620
When is this going down?

>>93992462
>Pinochet fucked up home
Mas bien lo salvo sweetie

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>>93988117
ohh she s gonna

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>>93991368
>'' I have best you in single combat, that means I rule this nation now ''
It's how it works for blacks, anon.