Batman #27 Storytime

Kite man heaven yeah. I Cryed evertim

>devoting an issue of a flashback arc to a meme
Why

>>93981244

Guys is KiteMan suppose to be sexy?

>>93981259
Charlie Brown watch out for the kite eating tree.

The art looks so boring. It looked so much better in the half he did for the proposal issue.

>>93981238
I think it's good, shows how society of Gotham suffers everytime these big and crazy things happen and gives the victims a layer of depth and relatability. At least I hope that's what King's doing here.

>>93981285
Different inker and colorist. Danny Miki is a good inker for art that's supposed to look clean and detailed, Mann's art is supposed to look the opposite. And I don't even know who the colorist is.

>>93981233
I really hate this "Joker casually kills almost everyone that works for him" thing. It makes me question why anyone would ever work for him.

>>93981348

muh kino

>>93981244
>>93981252
So Batman doesn't care about endangering Kite-Man's life? If the Joker had killed him it would be Batman's fault.

the BOY is dead ?

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>>93981380
He gets cancer why do you think Charlie Brown is bald.

>>93981287
>riddler right under batman's foot
>>93981365
>joker easily found

Why is this war going on again?

>>93981371
Worse than that. Batman is basically responsible for getting Kite-Man's son killed.

Nice job, King.

>>93981396
POOR BOY NOW I ARE SAD :(

Kite Man...
Hell yeah!

>>93981322
It should've been stuck on a tree fucking hacks. If you are going to reference something don't do half measures.

>>93981404
Is that the "terrible thing" he mentioned to Selina?

>>93981287
So Batman got Riddler under his foot and probably could have knocked him out but he still got away.
And he had a rope around Scarecrow that could chocke him but he still got away.
And Joker was like 5 feet away from him draggin an adult man and he also got away.

>>93981403
Events.

I'm just gonna read Fudd again.

>>93981447
Probably not.

Batman 027 (2017) (webrip) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP)
http://www36.zippyshare.com/v/xJywTh4q/file.html

All of this happened before Dick became Robin?

>>93981358
>It makes me question why anyone would ever work for him

Same reason minions work for anyone. Why does Hydra have so many "true believers" or any DC villain has any number of hangers-on? Besides lazy writing, of course....

>>93981523
>Same reason minions work for anyone
Money? But if Joker kills you, you don't get paid.

>>93981272
This Riddler is growing on me but I do NOT like his design.

>>93981447
"It's my fault, Selina. My greatest failure: I made Kite Man (hell yeah)"

>>93981295
I love this page.
King has some really good "2 people sitting on a couch" scenes

>>93981403
>>93981473
>Ignoring Grundy about to crush him with a brick wall
You make it sound so easy

>>93981558
What to male stripper for you?

>>93981329
>For you

>>93981329
>>93981338
>Riddler is an edgy child-killer too
Just great

>>93981365
BRAVO KING
No seriously, this was a pretty good issue. Only Batfags will say otherwise.

>>93981365
Well it makes sense why he's in Arkham, also Batman make another villain

>>93981287
Damn, this is a really nice page

>>93981630

Dude, in Zero Year he destroyed a good portion of the city.

>>93981630
It makes sense that he'd make good on at least one of his threats at some point, otherwise nobody would give a fuck when he mentions their kid's name

Batman is 100% at fault for this child's death and the creation of yet another villain. Batman apologizes to the dude, but it's fucking meaningless since he's responsible for it since he forced this dude to get involved in this bullshit war.

>>93981238
>meme

now interwebz be we

>>93981630
He's been there before. I know of one story where he shoved a ping pong ball down an infants throat.

Batman had to cut it out.

>>93981523
>>93981545

It's canon that working for Joker gets you paid more for a job than with any other Bat-rogue.
Desperation does the rest.

And over in Marvel all the citizens are complete assholes, they follow Hydra for the /pol/ shit over there.

>>93981545

Partially. Why do any Gotham minions works for any of the villains? Sure Joker will kill you - he's even done it on the animated shows, so it's not like it's something King is doing for the first time, but it's just convenient for the writers that minions will always sign up for someone for something as simplistic as money (or for no reason at all, since most minions are generally meaningless non-demionsional characters who rarely, if ever, get even a line of dialogue).

Batman kills Charlie Brown.

>>93981265
Wasn't Clayface good for a while? What happen

Okay, the Kite Man jokes just got dark. Damn it, King.

>>93981753
This war is in the past.

>>93981753
Clayface is still good and part of Batman's team in Detective Comics. This story is a flashback.

>>93981365
Good issue, thanks Norrin

>>93981287
>when you get into the stage and there's 2 warring factions but they suddenly only target you

>>93981753
he still is but I don't even give him to 975 before he's evil again

>>93981630
What is Batman Dark City for the summerfag?

>>93981764
>>93981774
>>93981791
Thanks guys.

>>93981295
that spread on Joker, dude you have no balls to ventilate why do this

>>93981259
>This is where the Hell Yeah comes from
O-oh
Also
>Charlie Brown flying a kite

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>>93981558
I'm pretty sure someone at DC got inspired by my redesign.

>>93981295
Manspreading much? Fucking villain.

>Kite-Man says hell yeah because he doesn't care if he goes to heaven or hell when he dies
>Kite-Man says Hell Yeah because if his mom was right he'll be reunited with his son

>>93981952
It looks pretty similar and you're a filthy pervert

that is the first king book that i like..
What bruce did was terrible..But can not think this is the reason why selina says no ---

>>93982003
Why are you using punctuations as if you are a huge homo faggot?

>>93982041
She is 11.

>>93982049
>She
Stop this meme.

English is not my mother tongue...

>>93982003
It's not like that.
Brucie and Selina are both on the edge of full-tilt insanity, that's why they click so well: they can understand one another more than anyone else in the world.
It's a form of intimacy that transcends stuff like morality.
But they're both trying to hold it together and stay sorta sane-ish
... compared to the rest of Gotham.
Them being together would be like two addicts being together: it's only a matter of time before they start enabling each other and they both lose all control.

>>93981365
>Hell Yeah actually has deep personal meaning for him
this is not the kind of character development I was expecting for a running gag

>>93981692

Out of the mouths of babes?

Heh he he

So is there any explanation for why Selina wasn't around for the War of Jokes and Riddles?

Almost every other major player in Gotham was involved

>>93982149

She is around, but is probably just using the mayhem to her advantage and spending her time stealing shit.

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Is anyone else bummed that for one of DC's flagship titles, and the whole concept of Rebirth, they decided to spend the first 2 of 6 issues having Bruce monologue over an almost mute Joker and Riddler. I just think it's kind of cheap. With all the mystery of Rebirth, the cliffhanger of not knowing whether or not Catwoman said yes or no to Bruce's proposal, and just about anything else they could have cooked up, its a 6 issue flash back, and so far the first two were kinda boring.
Is anyone else with me on this, or am I alone?

So whats the explanation for why none of any of the metahumans to be responding to a literal war in gotham?

>>93982200
To be fair, Batman is one of the least affected heroes to begin with. He's missing chunks of his live but unlike the others his bonds and such survived the New 52 happening.

>>93982250

I'm not sure I'm understanding you. Could you explain further?

I thought this was dumb at first and could not see where it was going at all

what a fool I was

good punchline/setup/backstory, I enjoyed this

>Joker keeps Kite-Man alive because he's a hilarious fuck up who helped him get his groove back
...Hell Yeah?

>>93982270
You get how Rebirth is about the New 52 takes on the characters being the result of a cosmic horror (Dr. Manhattan is likely) making them weaker and divided by taking away history and bonds from them, the return of the original Wally West and what's going on with Superman being the cracks breaking through? Batman didn't really change when the New 52 hit, he's not like Barry Allen existing without the rest of the Flash family or the rest of the league only being around for "5 years" and a good deal of history missing. There isn't really much to work with if you want a tale of Batman discovering what he's lost to fit the theme of Rebirth.

Sorry, I'm not sure I'm good explaining this.

>>93981338

Wait, so Riddler murdered this guy's kid because he knew that he was just some dude being intimidated by a bunch of big players and as such would double-cross him? So why did he even play his hand and bring him in in the first place, which nearly led to him being caught?

Is there some grand riddle I'm not understanding here?

>>93982329
Yes.

>>93982364

Do you mind explaining it?

>>93981676
"kiteman, hell yeah" is literally facebook/instagram tier meme

>>93982319
ah i see.

i didnt read any new 52 stuff. this is actually my first real run with comics. All i know from new 52 is what was explained in the Rebirth one-shot, which wasn't much.

>>93982329
Joker blackmailed a mafia group into trying to kill riddler in the previous issue. If you crunched the numbers, you'd realize joker knew they werent gonna succeed and already killed the mother before he even talked to the mafia guys.

There's no joke or riddle here. Its just another batman book with the villains going over the top edgy

>>93981265
This is for the vore fans

>>93981365
PART 1!?

>>93981403
>joker easily found

Did you forget the part earlier in the book when Joker literally dragged him to his home/hideout.

So...

Is Kite man a vigilante or a supervillain?

>>93981365
>part 1
NANI!? Christ, it sucks that this is one of the best parts of this run.

>>93982527
He seems to be a petty crook who steals diamonds

More of a nuisance than anything else

>>93981287
>>93981295
I don't know why but I find it really hilarious when cape characters get exasperated

>>93981365
I like Kite Man now....
Put him on a team book DC pls

>>93982606
he'l be on Skwad if he gets popular enough

>>93982583
Joker's suffering some exaggerated form of depression, how exasperated he is isn't clear.
He says Good grief because that's an infamous remark Charlie Brown makes. He's still making jokes even if they fall flat because he's trying to get back his mojo or whatever.

What I don't get is outside of King thinking it amusing I'm not sure why Joker dragged Charlie off, he usually just ditches people even those close to his operation like Harley once he figures he's been made. He doesn't need to know the details, it usually just gets summed up with "Batman".

>>93982615
Hell Yeah

>>93982615
>>93982606
>Priest on Suicide Squad with kite-man
Yes please

>>93981287

>"good grief"
>charles brown

The peanuts references in there are killing me. Well done.

>>93982041
I usually see that shit on Internet libertarians having a """human""".. (((SOCIALIST))).. ..rant..

>>93981558
If he'd button up his fucking shirt it'd be a great design.

>>93981365
I really fucking enjoyed this.

Do we know if Part 2 is next issue or will it be in a few?

>>93982003
How could you not also at least like his story in the Batman annual, Batman #23 or Batman/Elmer Fudd?

>>93982905
Part two is in September.

>>93981365
Marvel, this is how you get a ridiculous non-relevant character and turn him in the most awesome shit of the month.
take notes.

>>93981828
You mean the comic where he was being controlled by a literal demon?

>>93981371
>>93981404
Read "Batman: Ego" some time. It's about Bruce having a mental breakdown after his stunts cause a man to kill his own family and himself after being forced to betray the Joker.

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>>93981365
Based

>>93981183
>Tfw fell for the King is bad meme
>He's actually great
Man /co/ has absolutely fucking awful taste if they hate this. Batman, Superman, and WW are all really good right now.

>>93983826
>sees kite-man is getting two issues
>/co/ gets mad
>first one turns out to be great
why are you guys always so wrong?

Lol King made Batman the villain of his own book.

Seriously, King's Batman is the most pathetic excuse for a hero I've ever seen.

>>93981198

What happened to Tim Sale? Is he finished?

>>93983864
this time we were wrong and I humbly apologize, kite man story was awesome

>>93981252
>is that a joke or a riddle
Neither, because it wasn't funny or clever.

>>93983826
>>93983864
>Another issue full of boilerplate and cutesy references to a famous cartoon
>Story that makes absolutely no sense
>Grimdark backstory for Meme Man featuring Batman getting his son killed by The Riddler of all people for no reason

No wonder /co/ loves it.

what was the point of this issue?

>>93984498
to be better than all Marvel comics put for sale at the same time.
and it is a success

>>93981698
>Marvel world is such a shithole Hydra is recruiting off /pol/ of that world
Truly the worst hell

>>93981295
>It's almost funny
It is funny Joe

>>93981213
I swear I've seen this exact sequence before

>>93981365
I'm getting Yaba Daba Do flashbacks

>>93981183
more like the war of snores and snoozes

>>93984208
No official comment. I've been searching for one since Tony posted this piece of shit on instagram.

Sale should have been doing the interiors for this arc and they choose to take him off the covers. I was buying three Batman issues every week a sale variant, a back up sale variant, and a regular.

Down to zero issues until King grows the fuck up and makes this book worth reading without an interesting variant.

And yes, I know, everyone hated Sales covers. I didn't.

>>93984441
This

I miss the days when Batman stoped crime instead of causing it.

>>93984988

This is two issues in a row he hasn't done right?

Shame if he's gone. I'm a huge fan too, particularly the LH / DV stuff where he inks with the heavy noir blacks.

>>93981404
>>93981371
This has happened loads of times with Batman. He thinks he can control the situation - he thrives when he controls the situation. But things go wrong, things he cant control, and the best laid plans of bats and men leave innocents in the ground.

>>93981383
It's so clear how divisive this event has been behind the scenes.

Look at the books they were allowed to include and the ones they weren't. None of the big name solo titles because none of them wanted anything to do with this garbage.

If this is a joke, what's the punchline? The fact that this is what Bruce considers pillow talk?

>>93984634
its a pretty common sequence

>>93981272
Stupid sexy Riddler

>>93985021
Yup first two he's been off. He did the first issue of this arc with the white background and joker/riddler thought.

I get that they're variants but since Batman's been like the only consistent variant title it would have been nice to know when they would end. Especially since the covers since are just pictures. At least Tim recognizes a cover is supposed to be about icons not pictures.

>>93981295
Kek

>>93984634
>>93985078
It is common. But Anon likely remembers it from two weeks ago when king wrote a similar set up including Fudd and Bugs to open that issue.

>>93981213
>from low to high
Gj editors

I'm angry that I actually want to fuck Kite-Man now.

>BATMAN'S MARRYING CATWOMAN??!
>stay tuned because first we have a year-long prequel arc with the Joker
>aaaaand....we're already at an interlude


Fucks sake

>>93985030
>None of the big name solo titles because none of them wanted anything to do with this garbage.
Editorial has the final say, not the writers

>>93981272
Awful, awful, AWFUL Riddler design

>>93982863
Nah, he's a bit too big and I hate the sideburns as well.

I'm guessing they're taking his face to be more Jim Carrey and less Frank Gorshin?

>>93985604
Where did I say the writers had anything to do with it. The rumors are the Snyder/Lee camp are at odds with the Johns camp about it.

It just seems completely antithetical to what they've been doing with Rebirth. Considering Flash is the only major Rebirth character crossing over with this shit it seems to be a little more obvious that there is truth to that.

And I'm not sitting here saying they're at each others throats, but this event not crossing with the main bat book, superman, wonder woman or trinity (especially post manapul) just seems to be odd.

>>93981322
I just don't think Riddler should be poisoning kids. There are enough edgy Batman villains to go around

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>>93981295
I think will be useful

>>93981338
This really has no effect on Batman because he cares more about children losing their parents rather than vice versa

>>93982654
Don't say that word.

>>93981635
>No seriously, this was a pretty good issue. Only Batfags will say otherwise.

You do realize when you state something like this, a preemptive comment to discredit someone else's opinion, you look like a total fucking moron; right?

>>93985723
Just your phrasing made it seem like the writers of the big standalone titles wanted nothing to do with this. Sorry. I hadn't heard about these rumors.

Why's the Joker so down in the dumps? (Haven't read much of King's Batman)

>>93985723
Yeah, I do feel that some drama behind scenes have been happening because the choice of these tie-ins seems so random.

>>93982606
>>93982615
>>93982654
>>93982664

And then he'll be over-exposed and you'll all hate him. Kite-Man works in small doses. It keeps him fresh and hilarious. There is a phrase called "too much of a good thing".

>even fucking KITE MAN has a tragic backstory now
Thanks King

>>93985832
Yeah, it's interesting how a few of the teams mentioned in that epilogue in Tec #950 don't seem to be involved at all.

>>93981252
>>93984377

>Joker reacts to Heathcliff

>>93985832
Even just the announcement seemed random. Two one-shots that are completely connected. So really they're a two-shot. And then a " dark matter line" of comics after, or maybe sometime during or something, the Dark Metal event.

And if this is an "event that could destroy/change the DC universe" then why aren't Superman and Wonder Woman much more involved?

it was all just kinda dumb sounding. And really it just seems like a few "elite" artists want to draw while listening to metallica and putting batman in knights armor on the back of a dinosaur. Which is all stuff I find insufferable.

>>93985546
>we have a year-long prequel arc with the Joker
It's 4 months including the interlude

>>93981277

>Is there a difference?

Yes there is

>>93984498
To show how the war impacts the little people like Charles Brown.

>>93985030
>>93985723
>>93985832
>>93985900
This is enough time foil to bake apple pies for all my neighborhood, thanks guys.

>>93985900
>>93985900
>And really it just seems like a few "elite" artists want to draw while listening to metallica and putting batman in knights armor on the back of a dinosaur. Which is all stuff I find insufferable.
I have no problem with this, except for maybe Metallica. Definitely sounds better suited for an OGN or Elseworlds, tho

>>93985876
>epilogue in Tec #950
This reminds me, weren't Red Hood, Tec team and JLA supposed to be part of this event? What happened to that?

>>93985986
I believe the simple answer is Snyder said he asked people if they wanted to be part of the crossover and those that said yes wrote tie ins while others passed.

>>93985986
>Time Foil
>All my neighborhood
Look, I recognize you don't NEED to speak english to post here but don't act superior when you sound like a legitimate retard.

>>93986067
It is partially that but also look at DC's past main events and there's your answer.

>>93981365
King made me like Kite Man and Joker
They should team up and get their own book

>>93986093
>look at DC's past main events
Please show me so that I may look and see.

>>93981259
Lemme get this straight, your parents make you the butt of all jokes and you decide to make your own son go through that too?
Also, nice go see another display of incompetence from Batman. I like it when instead of helping people he ruins people's lives.

This run is trash but this arc is the worst

>>93986087
At least I'm not a "I know all that's happening behind the scenes because I shitpost on Taiwanese trap porn board on internet and act like an arm chair analyst" kind of retard.

>>93986067
"Will the Dark Multiverse Destroy the DC Universe" With that battle-worn capullo bat on every promo.

Yet no Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Aquaman, or Trinity cross-over. Yeah, I'm sure that was exactly as they planned it.

>>93986009
Tec was probably taken off because of the Doomdays event. Don't know about Red Hood and JLA, though.

>>93986140
DC hasn't done line wide tie event since Infinite Crisis. It's too much of a hassle and they know what kind of main event their audience wants.

>>93981287
I like how Joker just doesn't give a fuck.

>>93981365
King has perfected kitekino.

>>93986203
Not being line-wide doesn't excuse leaving each of the trinity's solo books out of an event that looks to be Batman kills the DC Universe.

>>93986163
is it possible for you to post without regurgitating memes and buzzwords? Stop trying so hard to fit in on an anonymous website

>>93981287
>yare yare daze

>>93986169
I have no doubt that things didn't go as it was planned.

>>93986182
I read Red Hood and there was no acknowledgement of Metal event which makes me think that Snyder and Tynion planned things without talking with the creative first to see if they wanted to be in.

No idea about JLa.

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>>93986281
>I don't care what they did in past and what actually works for them
>do it now you faggots, my autism calls for it
This is your average capeshitter in 2017.

>>93981238
To make him into something else. Someone else.

>>93986347
>I read Red Hood and there was no acknowledgement of Metal event which makes me think that Snyder and Tynion planned things without talking with the creative first to see if they wanted to be in.
Is this your Rebirthbabbies first DC event ever?

>>93986347
The office Red Hood is currently in seems more willing to listen if the creative team decided to not get involved than the previous one because Red Hood literally had been dragged in every bat event in n52.

>>93981358
Joker from the 70's on very rarely has an actual gang working for him. When he needs someone else to do something, he kidnaps them and blackmails them.

That said, you'd be surprised what people will do when they're really desperate for money, or if they're just dumb. You know how mooks still attack Batman even though they know he is the ultimate asskicker? "Yeah, I'M gonna be the one to finally beat Batman, after he's beaten thousands of guys just like me!". Same mentality. "Joker kills people who fail him, but I'M not gonna fail him!"

That's also the point of Harley Quinn, to give him a longterm righthand-man that actually makes sense.

Either way, Joker's gang is a relic from the Silver Age and the 60's show, and very rarely do you see it in the actual Batman comics, just in references from other comics.

>>93985723
DC is finished

>>93986407
Offices in charge of which one of their books can be in events. Some force their writers to be involved, others don't and some big name writers can have the final say.

Rebirth editors seems to give their writers more freedom than before.

>>93981277
>Is that a joke or a riddle? Right?
Now I'm reading Kite-Man in Billy "Red Face" "Bitchtits" "Freckleface" "Ginger Crotch" Burr's voice.

>>93981365
Kiteman Begins...
...and of course it was Batman's fault.

>>93986281
I can't believe /co/ is so trash that they WANT all comics to have crossover tie in issues, even if DC are known not to do that even in the past.

>>93981213
>that one guy who stays to watch

kek

>>93981259
>this is the origin of the meme line

Okay then.

>>93984542
Idiots like you are why I'm glad the devil(marvel) is winning.

>>93981265
I'm pretty sure he turned into this exact guy in the Annie episode.

>>93981272
>Riddler with an open shirt
>and a question mark on his chest
>also, that huge fucking nose

Ugh.

>>93981322
>>93981329
>Riddler poisoning kids

Seriously? That seems so beneath him.

>>93982329
It's definitely either a joke or a riddle.

>>93986759
Going to see him next month. Pretty pumped
>JUST CHECKIN IN ON YAAAA

>>93987097
>(marvel) is winning.
sure.
winning, they are only breathing cause Disney can't afford to lose MCU so they keep the comics alive as marketing

>>93981447

Considering all the deaths he's partially responsible for, this is a drop in the bucket.

The annoying part is him giving pointless claptrap about justice to Kiteman, knowing full well the Joker and Riddler will just get out again.

>>93986723
DC has never forced events in books, that's their statement about events being anti consumer as well as looking for their own comfortability and sanity. If you look at something like Infinite Crisis, every book was trying to tie in to the event, so there arose two problems for the consumers and for editors who were trying to stream line it. The first problem is stuff like Wonder Woman snapping the neck of Max Lord, which was the second big driving force of the event and biggest reason for the divide between Trinity. But it doesn't really happen in the main book of Infinite Crisis nor the prelude stuff that marketed as the stuff that would lay out all the mysteries that are to be answered in Infinite Crisis. So when someone did pick up the book of Infinite Crisis, they had no idea of what happened under which scenario. The second problem is something like the tie ins Villains United or Rann/Thanagar War created. They were marketed as the groundwork for Infinite Crisis but all the stuff it amounted to in the end was on panel two box expository narration and one panel spread. Now in retrospect it looks really retarded, as to why the important story beats were covered in Superman and Wonder Woman issue and why the books that were supposed to be important weren't actually important. DC was quick to realize that the short term cash grab is a bother in long term for both editors and audience. That's why since then "they haven't gone full line wide crossover and everything is a tie in" retarded. It's honestly best for the creatives and the consumers.

>>93981365
So joker did not live in some abandoned theme park or underground based, instead, he just live in a house in a seemly nice community

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>>93981365

>>93987523
>What is the New 52?

>>93987523
>DC has never forced events in books
They actually did, dude. New 52 was full of forced events and some writers were really annoyed by this.

It seems that there have been some improvements about this in Rebirth where writers have more freedom to choose.

>>93987533
It's just his internal crisis phase. He's trying to become normal again in his Jokerized way but he can't find enjoyment in the insanity. The book mentioned Joker vehicle but he's using taxis to travel. He can kill people with toxins or by fags but he's just shooting them in the head. It's supposed to act as a reflection where Joker enviously sees other people being happy in their mundanity and since he can't enjoy the insanity, he's trying to find the enjoyment in mundanity by adopting it. Maybe this normality would give him a sense of joy or a laugh even and all will be right in his world again.

>>93987689
>>93987726
Inter line events, yes. An external universe changing event that had nothing to do with the premise of the book but was forced any way? No. Since the start of new 52 we've only had one actual event in Forever Evil, one bullshit event that stopped the line like Convergence, stupid gimmick months and Rebirth. The actual event of Forever Evil never tied heavily into stuff.

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>>93981523
>>93981698
From what I have read and see , other than paid well.
It seems that Joker, when he's not in his crazy mood,seems to be quite good with his henchman and gang He gives them this image of a a leader&boos that is not bossy, kind of humorous and funny.
He gives them a sense adventure& thrilled, make them feels important(Joker's men are ofen just small time criminals before joining and working for him)
I remember there is a comics story that is about this subject, the story's protagonist is a henchman of Joker.
Joker also something just use other mentally ill patients to do his works.

>>93987523
>What is Final Crisis
>What is Blackest Night
>What is Flashpoint
>What is Futures End
>What is Forever Evil

Nice revisionist history you got going there. Perfect for an Elseworlds.

>>93987961
Now list the tie ins of those events faggot. They didn't interrupt the whole line. And Futures End wasn't an event.

I liked this issue, but goddamn does it have pacing issues. The individual moments are great, but it was hard going from page to page, there was a lot of jumping around.

>>93987892
You mean like Flashpoint? And The New 52? And Rebirth?

>>93986363
If you could read, and follow a thread of comments, you would know that's about as close to the opposite of what I'm saying as possible.

>>93986952
I can't believe you said the same thing as the other anon. Either you're a samefag or another faggot who can't read. Literally said the opposite.

Go back through the replies and this time try reading proficiently.

>>93988110
You're moving goalposts. The burden of proof is not on me to list every single tie-in and special related to those events, because we both know there are so, so many. You're just getting aggravated because you now realize you were wrong, and instead of just admitting it or moving on, you're changing your definition of what a crossover event is and doubling down. Don't get so upset.

>>93987892
>Inter line events, yes. An external universe changing event that had nothing to do with the premise of the book but was forced any way? No.
When I think about it more, you actually seems right. It's the inter-line events that were forced on writers in new 52.

>>93981348
Honestly this has been the best part about King's run so far. Showing that Batman's actions have consequences that often hurt people.

>>93987533
Pretty sure its 69 Dickson Street from the last issue

>>93981295
This is actually funny

>>93988626
Why RHATO was forced to be part of n52 bat events despite not being part of the bat line, though?

>>93988431
I think the thing is anon is latching onto "line-wide" as meaning every book because he realizes that "dc doesn't do line-wide events" doesn't really counter my argument, which started this all, that Dark Matter left out the big books because there was behind the scenes disagreement. He said it was because they don't do line-wide events but even without going line-wide at least one of the trinity books should have been touched. Especially with the event clearly being Batman centric.

Hell yeah this was a great issue.

>>93988670
TT was forced too and it's not a bat book.

>>93988431
>make a claim
>don't even try to back it up
>I-I'm right

Yeah okay, you're totally not faggoting around. But I did your work for you and here's the result.

>Preludes
Time Masters: Vanishing Point #1–6
The Flash #8–12

>Flashpoint Main Series
Flashpoint #1–5

>Crossover
Booster Gold #44–47

>Mini-series: Several tie-in mini-series were announced via DC's "The Source" Blog[2] and the creative teams were announced in March 2011.[11]

Flashpoint: Batman Knight of Vengeance #1–3,
Flashpoint: Deadman and the Flying Graysons #1–3,
Flashpoint: Citizen Cold #1–3,
Flashpoint: Deathstroke & the Curse of the Ravager #1–3,
Flashpoint: Legion of Doom #1–3
Flashpoint: The Outsider #1–3,
Green Lantern/Superman: Whatever Happened to the Aliens?
Flashpoint: Abin Sur - The Green Lantern #1–3,
Flashpoint: Project: Superman #1–3,
Flashpoint: Frankenstein & the Creatures of the Unknown #1–3,
Flashpoint: Secret Seven #1–3,
Whatever Happened to Europe?
Flashpoint: Emperor Aquaman #1–3,
Flashpoint: Wonder Woman and the Furies #1–3,
Flashpoint: Lois Lane and the Resistance #1–3,
Flashpoint: Kid Flash Lost #1–3,
Flashpoint: The World of Flashpoint #1–3,
Flashpoint: Hal Jordan #1–3,
One-shots
Flashpoint: Grodd of War #1,
Flashpoint: Reverse-Flash #1,
Flashpoint: Green Arrow Industries #1,
Flashpoint: The Canterbury Cricket #1,

You know anon lying on internet is not good for your mental health. What if you got a girlfriend somehow and you constantly lied to her. And to punish your pathetic self, what if she promised to to go to bed with you. Here you are all happy thinking you will lose your virginity finally but actually she just confronts you about your lying habits on the spot and then blue balls you. What if being dumped on just when the promise of losing your virginity is too much for you to handle? Lying has severe consequences anon, don't do it. It's not worth the momentary catharsis you get from shitposting.

>>93988384
What? To tinfoil shit like this garbage post >>93985723? You want anyone to take that shit seriously? Are you just memeing me anon? Am I being had and not seeing the obvious sarcasm?

>>93981259
His family is going to die aren't they

>>93988991
You chose one event not all of them which was the claim you've made several times. And you're still bitching about line-wide tie-ins when my initial assertion was that they simply left out the big books which they wouldn't have done if it went to original plan.

Your post alone serves to prove my point rather than the random point you've been trying to make to others. A flash event tied into the flash books. So the bat event should at the very least have tied into the batbooks if it had gone to plan. Which is why I think the Rebirth-centric characters (flash aside) have been left untouched by this.

>>93981630
Didn't he kill his own kid pre-flashpoint?

>>93988991
After all that work you put in, are you really gonna sit there and try to say that's not a company-wide event crossover? You basically just torpedoed your entire argument

>>93988991
>You know anon lying on internet is not good for your mental health. What if you got a girlfriend somehow and you constantly lied to her. And to punish your pathetic self, what if she promised to to go to bed with you. Here you are all happy thinking you will lose your virginity finally but actually she just confronts you about your lying habits on the spot and then blue balls you. What if being dumped on just when the promise of losing your virginity is too much for you to handle? Lying has severe consequences anon, don't do it. It's not worth the momentary catharsis you get from shitposting.
Calm the heck down. I'm not the person you are discussing with, but your response is over the top and make you look seriously pitiful.

>>93988991
>Flashpoint was NOT an event crossover!
>painstakingly lists every tie-in and special
Damn, the state of you mate.

>>93989085
>What? To tinfoil shit like this
You really aren't even trying to read what I've typed. You aren't. At all.

This response doesn't even have to do with what YOU said I was saying.

My first post was:
>>93985030

Tin foil or not theres no possible way you could read that or my further responses as saying "I want line-wide tie-ins RIGHT NOW" like you and your samefag reply asserted.

You made up a point to reply to which I didn't even come close to making and now you're skipping over that to call me crazy. I don't care if you share my theory that shit hasn't gone as planned for Dark Matters. But don't sit there making up shit to disagree with and then act like you're anything but retarded.

>>93981322
Oh for fucks sake turn down the fucking edge

>>93983215
Marvel not take notes, steal ideas

>>93989162
>You chose one event not all of them which was the claim you've made several times.
Sorry I'm not that free, I'm also not a newfaggot so I know that's how mostly the events operate. DC's way of doing event is different from how Marvel does it and you clearly want Marvel, why don't you go read Civil War 2 then?
>>93989221
What? That's not a line wide crossover. It's barely effecting the ongoings.
>>93989288
>Flashpoint was NOT an event crossover!
Show me where I said that retard.

>>93989871
>I'm also not a newfaggot
I'll take "Things Only Newfriends Say", for 500 Alex

>>93988991
How are you trying to argue Flashpoint wasn't a line-wide event when it relaunched the entire line into New 52, another line-wide event?

>>93989305
>My first post was:
So it was your post? So you did end up making a bullshit shitpost about "rumors" and other garbage behind the scene. Does anyone even need to take you seriously after that point?
As for why no "main book" is involved, let me ask you this, how new are you? It's not Marvel, DC doesn't involve main books unnecessarily. And they always hype up that this or that character is going to be the main star, that doesn't end up being necessarily true though.

>>93989938
>New 52, another line-wide event?
New 52 isn't an event retard, it's a branding. Like Marvel Now or ANAD.

>>93990094
Yeah it had little to no ripple effect across the line except the branding.

>>93990094
Yup, just like ANAD or Marvel Now!, New52 was just a banner at the top of the cover. It had absolutely no effect on the characters or the universe at large.

Fuckin idiot you're getting rekt left and right just throw in the towel

>>93990155
>>93990204
Ah, I didn't know that's what events are. My favorite event is Ultimate universe btw.

>>93989474
at this point anything would be fine, as long Marvel learned something

>>93981968
oh man

>>93990257
so now you've just completely given up and are resorting to pedantry? Just admit you tried to come off like you knew what you were talking about and you've been BTFO so hard you're scrambling to move goalposts.

>>93990155
>>93990257
So did Marvel Now and in a lot of cases ANAD. It's rebranding, I don't know if it's an event. If this is the case you would end up calling each relaunch/rebranding/reboot an event.

>>93990257
>My favorite event is Ultimate universe btw
Jesus
This is the second time you've completely tanked your own argument

>>93990397
>So did Marvel Now and in a lot of cases ANAD. It's rebranding,
Let me tell you a little secret. That was just renumbering. Something like New52 is considered "rebranding" or "rebooting"

>>93981692
He was possessed.

>>93990452
>That was just renumbering.
Also rebranding. Rebooting and rebranding are two completely different things. Alsob both ANAD Marvel Now had a lot of status quo shifts which is similar to new 52.

>>93987533
Imagine being a middle class family and living next to the Joker. When you go and get the mail, he's just standing outside, collecting his paper in a robe, and nods in acknowledgement of you, tugging on the leash of one of Harley's pet hyenas so they don't make a mess on your yard.

>>93981365
My favorite part of this page is the portrait on Joker's wall.

>>93990204
I was being sarcastic but I can't parse out the inanity of the intern trying to defend DC's love of it's consumer base by never doing events so I don't know if you agree with me or if you are just as dumb as he is.

So far we've seen two different Jokers running around right? The Joker from Joker v Riddler is a different one altogether than the one from the Metal event right?

>>93990827
It's in the past. Are you actually reading the book?

>>93990943
In reading all books (with the exception of Harley's) since Rebirth has started. Im not actually sure what the timeline on all of them seem to be.


Want to help a nigga out?

>>93990827
>>93990943
Well that and King is completely ignoring Snyder's characterization thank God. Sadly he did not for Riddler.

>>93991060
It's in the past, one year after Zero Year.
>>93991070
>thank God
What thank God? This is shit as well.

>>93985043
No. The joke is that by trying to stop the Joker Batman actually got more innocent people killed and accomplished nothing except creating another super villain.

It's actually pretty hilarious.

>>93990806
I agree but it is getting hard to follow that guys logic

>>93991124
>not liking this Joker who is just endlessly trying to laugh again and is not an edgy faggot

I don't know what to tell you. You have terrible taste.

>>93991186
>liking Batman whose accomplishment as a caped crusader are non existent. King's Joker is edgelord as well.

>>93991186
Well I thought the Joker was always suppose to be edgy. I didn't start reading comics until the Nolan films. I dont really like the Joker trying to be funny.

>>93981365
Proof that King works better with c-list characters than mainstream shit

>>93991219
>saved Gotham Girl
>saved Gotham from Strange
>Has kept his family close and went out of his way to try to keep them safe
>saved Gotham from Bane
>done nothing

Sure mate sure. Seriously all you negativefags have no fucking legs to stand on hating this run since the Swamp Thing issue. Just go away.

>>93991271
Honestly I'm convinced they aren't even reading it. Even when the issues are great you have people infighting in the thread about unrelated things.

>>93991271
>couldn't save Gotham
>robbed Bane of his peace
>couldn't save Bat family from Bane
>couldn't catch Selina's friend
>couldn't stop Swamp Thing from killing the guy in front of him
>got Kite Man unnecessarily involved
>got Kite Man's child killed
>got cucked by Riddler in first issue of TWOJAR
>hot cucked by Riddler in this issue again

Great Writing by ma boi King
Godd Art, well 500x better then that that poser shit

Very Enjoyable Issue

Though i'm not so sure where this WOJAR is going

>>93989210

Yes, but Daniels' made him freaking Joker-lite during that arc.

>>93991550
> To stop it Batman is going to make Joker laugh again. [\spoiler]

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2 for 3 King

Only took 3 mediocre/bad story arcs and a metal breakdown. I still get the feeling he might kill himself one of these days :^(

>>93991271
I defended King for a long time but the ending of BOTH Bane arcs was fucking despicable.

Also saying
>no legs to stand on hating this run since the Swamp Thing issue
Is the dumbest fuckign defense I've ever heard. I love that issue, and the proposal one was pretty good too right after it. But the Janin art ruined the first couple of issues of this arc. And 4 issues since swampy doesn't negate negativefags from having plenty of legs to stand on pre-Swampy. 20 issues being contemptible out of 27 is not good.

Yes, there have been some absolutely spectacular moments in this run. I have even loved certain issues (like 19 being reverse Knightfall with Bane running the gauntlet) but the plan in Suicide and the headbutt doing Bane in after Batman took critical amounts of damage was just too much to defend. I can't recommend anyone waste their time even stealing the issues of IASuicide and IABane with the way they end.

>>93991885
Literally everthing you are criticizing is subjective, which is fine but stop treating your own opinion as fact. The run has by no means been bad at all from an objective viewpoint. From pacing, to the writing, to the setup its been great.

Just like you can't recommend this run to anyone it's a shame your doctor can't recommend you some medicene to cure your autism.

>>93992022
When did I treat it as fact? I'd like you to try and keep in mind that the person you began this conversation with is not I.

>>93987953
I'd like to know what that story was.

>>93992648
Not the same anon but I think he's talking about Azzarello's book. I don't remember the name but it might even have just been Joker.

Its the book with the page of Joker flipping Gotham off like a loser. It's not a bad comic but I don't particularly like Azzarello's work.

>>93981259
Kite Senpai. Hell yea.

>>93981183
That face man

>>93981295
Great page great joker so far. Like Morrison a different approach.

>>93981238
>appeared in a major motion picture
>a meme

>>93981365
Terrific issue. Thanks

>>93993138
I mean, company wars aside, I love the first flick, GOTG is full of memes. So is Deadpool.

I get you're making a "but he was in Lego Batman" joke but just could've been executed better. Not the best joke but we can rebuild, we can be better. We will. We have to.

>>93991225
>I dont really like the Joker trying to be funny.

What? His name is THE JOKER.

>>93993312
Not him, I assumed he was meme-ing since he flat out admitted to not reading comics til Nolan made Batman.

I mean, nobody would seriously say such a thing and expect to be taken seriously for the next five to ten years.

>>93993312
>>93993427
I wasn't. I prefer the edgy psycho Joker that has a homolust for Batman. That seems to be how most writers write him anyway.

It's weird to see him try to be funny to me.

>>93991225
In one of his first appearances he tries to poison the towns drinking water. in another he makes all the fish deadly toxic and tries to patent it. He's always been edgy except for the Adam West era

>>93991885
Arguing with Kingfags is pointless. Tom King could take a shit in his hand. Make a comic where each page was literally just him make a hand print with that shit. His fans would defend this book as one of the greatest comic books of all time.

>>93981365

King has made Kite-Man more empathetic and given him more pathos in ONE issue than he has for Batman after almost 30 fucking issues. Incredible.

Why is he on Batman again?

>>93981447
That's not getting revealed till the last issue of the arc according to solicits.

Has there been any other story where Batman got someone fucked this blatantly? Not counting Bat family. No examples instantly come to mind.

>>93991544
>Muh Batgod is perfectly flawless who always wins and everything goes according to plan
How boring.

>>93995299
But my favorite Batman is written by O'Niel.

>>93995358
>O'Niel

>>93995031
Not that I can recall. Like other anons have said, King has done a fantastic job of reinforcing the Batman argument of is him protecting the city done more harm than good? This is the first run that has heavily used that as a background point of every arc, from Batman saving Gotham Girl condemning Bane to addiction again to Gotham dying, to in this issue Kite Man getting turned into a villain by Batman trying to use him for bait.

>>93992022
Keep pretending like this issue that jumped around all willy-nilly, made absolutely zero sense and featured Batman getting a child killed was "objectively good".

>>93995452
King is truly a genius Bruce should have just finished the job with that razor blade all those years ago. Best Batman run ever.

>>93995495
>made 0 sense

Mate you have serious reading comprehension skills. I sincerely hope you are like 15. I would explain it to you but it'd be a waste of time. It's very straightforward.

>>93981272
>>93985677

I honestly kinda agree. I just think that the Riddler shouldn't have a toned body at all. He should just be skinny fat at the most. He doesn't strike me as someone who'd ever lift unless it had to do with a riddle.

>>93995495
>made absolutely zero sense
If you're serious about this, you may be developmentally retarded

>>93995528
>the razor blade argument again

When will autist get over this? Will it be brought up the entire run?

Is King just completely inept at writing Batman ?
He did a pretty good job giving Kite-Man an origin story and the Batman x Elmer Fudd crossover was pretty great.
He's obviously not a completely inept writer (certainly better than Snyder) but it feels like he just can't write Batman (the character), or the majority of the Rogues, for shit

>>93985850
I've loved Kite Man for a decade and I agree with this. Don't over-expose him.

I thought King said this issue was supposed to give us a look at the war from a ground level? It's just a Kite-Man origin story with the cheap and convoluted death of his child in order to give the character pathos. People are probably going to be like "OMG so sad I love Kite-Man now why am I crying :(".

We still know very little about how the war is going, and aren't even given much reason to care about it. Even in this very issue it's just background noise. I know places like reddit and CBR or whatever are going to love it because "Kite-Man hell yeah! xD"...but what the fuck, am I the only one disappointed with this?

>>93995575
Elaborate. His Bruce is a brooding hero who loves his family and will do anything to protect those he loves and his city. He also knows the mantle is a curse but can't stop because he is the hero that Gotham needs.

What don't you like about his Bruce's characterization? I think it's the best he has been in a long time.

>>93985850
Exactly.
Kite-Man can become a really, really great character as long as they keep him as a wildcard. Not a terribly effective villain in his own right, not even really a bad guy, but a wild card mercenary. Someone who'll not only fuck up your defenses, but he'll also humiliate you simply by virtue of making you lose a fight to KITE-MAN

There are assholes in superhero comics whose entire gimmick revolves around having jet-packs or Nth-metal wings that allow them to fly, but Kite-Man ? He can take off into the air from ANY platform with nothing more than some fabric and some twine.
Think your fortress has security? Give Kite-Man a body heat-masking one-piece, and he'll sail right past your fucking defenses, because there's no thermal engine signature or metal or even SIZE to call attention to him on most advanced electronic counter-surveillance, because he can fly by you on a kite that's smaller than a modestly sized flock of birds.
Think you can take him out in aerial combat? Only if you manage to land a shot, and he's so goddamn maneuverable that the Batplane trying to catch him would be like William Perry chasing after a ballerina.
Think you can call the other rogues or heroes to help take him down ? Good luck with having a reputation after losing to a man named KITE-MAN.

You see what I mean.
The last thing Kite-Man needs is overexposure. He can carve himself a really neat spot in the Rogues gallery if he just stays low.

>>93995548
>Charlie Brown knows where the Joker is but who cares?
>Random splash page explained later in the most bare bones way imaginable featuring an all out fight where Batman has one of the major players in the "war" under his boot but hey who cares?
>Riddler killing a kid for no reason and Batman giving absolutely zero fucks about being directly responsible for the death of an innocent child because who cares?

It's really airtight when you think about it.

>>93995561
I'm agreeing with your sentiment that Batman does more harm than good and should have just killed himself a long time ago don't get so mad.

>>93995659
>>93995452

>>93995534
>>93995727

>>93995659

>His Bruce is a brooding hero
There are some shots of him standing still or whatever, but there's no introspection or anything like that. Bruce doesn't even get to narrate his own story.

>who loves his family
Is that why he barely acknowledges them? Even his own son has to be strung up by his neck for Bruce to even begin acting like he gives a shit about him.

>will do anything to protect those he loves and his city
He put his entire family and city at risk because he wanted to get personal in his attack on Bane. All Bruce has ever given a shit about during King's run is his own guilty fucking conscience.

>He also knows the mantle is a curse but can't stop because he is the hero that Gotham needs.
He's hurt far more than he's helped. Gotham got ravaged because of people trying to follow in his footsteps that he couldn't stop. Bane fucked a lot of people up in a revenge attack aimed at Batman. Now the War of Jokes and Riddles is causing the deaths of HUNDREDS of innocents because Batman is an incompetent fuck who makes enemies and can't stop them from causing wholesale fucking slaughter at whim.

King's Batman is more harmful and incompetent than the character has EVER been before. His thoughts and feelings are kept shrouded in mystery because King probably doesn't feel comfortable writing the character, so he just uses him as a show-piece and PoV character to show the plot, throws in a few moments of fan-service and calls it a day. Gotham Girl, Kite-Man, and Swamp Thing I believe are the only characters in this entire run that I can confidently say he gives two shits about.

>>93995792
So you don't like that Bruce is a three dimensional person and his actions having consequences? Also you are listing things you don't like about the run, not his characterization. Say what you don't like about King's Bruce.

>>93995881
He views the mantle of Batman as a form of suicide.

>>93995528
I mean you can shitpost all you want and King's stuff is controversial rightfully so, but showing these actions and consequences has been a somewhat subversive take and does question Batman's position as the face of truly and objectively right in every instance.

>>93995903
That's not what that meant for Christ fucking sake. He KILLED that Bruce that existed before his parents were born and the Bat was born. Get some reading comprehension. You are as bad as the people that can't read the body language and infer from that.

>>93995575
>completely inept
>better than Snyder though
Yeah, you keep memeing.

>>93995927
>>93995939
Portraying Batman as an inhuman unfeeling crazy person is far from an original take I have no idea why you are blowing King for it. The only thing he brings to the table is the sheer incompetence and needless loss of life which is just the tweak Batman needed to be perfect, amiright fellow mature readers?

>>93996037
>Portraying Batman as an inhuman unfeeling crazy person is far from an original take I have no idea why you are blowing King for it.
But I never even mentioned that in the post you quoted, dumb fuck.

>>93996126
Keep reading the post it'll all make sense.

>>93996126
Kek this Batman is fueled by emotion you dumbfuck. Thats why he keeps causing harm to others. My God you can't even read. Why are you on a board about comics?

>>93996267
I don't much care for ironic shitposting as I think it exudes an unfounded level of superiority so I think I'll pass.

>>93996358
I'm talking about moral hierarchy here >>93995927, not muh emotions. How slow are you?

>>93983864
we are not /pol/

>>93996390
Nothing screams ironic shitposting like insulting someone's reading comprehension and then willingly admitting to not reading all of their post.

>>93981365
>this was all an elaborate Kite Man origin
>"Hell yeah" has a deep meaning behind it
Say what you will about King but this is god tier

>>93997237

In what way is it "deep"? He says it because it reminds him of his dead son.

>>93997820
I meant emotionally deep for the character. Not filled with symbolism deep

>>93997820
Remember the I Am Suicide arc. Think about it. In terms of pottery.

>>93981968
He does care. He wants to go to hell.

>>93981523
>>93981698

You guys are idiots. Have they stopped teaching history in elementary school?

>>93995968
I agree with anon though. Probably why I defended this shit for so long. King's batman has been a wet fart. It might smell good at first but the uncomfortable feeling you have when it's over is just miserable.

But Snyder's was a shart. Pure shit through and through.

>>93997237

No it sucks because it has to ruin the Riddler to do it. Riddler is a bunch of things but kid killer should never be one of them.

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>>93999545
>Riddler is a bunch of things but kid killer should never be one of them
No, anon. No matter what that panel from "When Is A Door Not A Door?" would have you believe, Riddler has never had any qualms about killing people until Neil Gaiman decided he did.
The problem isn't Riddler killing, the problem is just how goddamn moronic and edgy he has been in this entire run and how it breaks character. Riddler kills only when people fail to survive his riddles or death traps, because he has such a massive ego he simply doesn't care about their lives. It's a "if they were smarter they would have lived" kind of mentality.
He wouldn't poison a kid just to get back at Kite-Man. Not because "he doesn't kill", but because poisoning a child for the sake of revenge is a petty and lowly tactic that is below his genius. That's why this is wrong.

>>93981183
Since this is a Batman thread, /co/ when will Dickbats happen?

>>93981338
>>93981348
>>93981357
>>93981365
>MY SON IS DEAAAAAAAAAAAAD
>I SHALL BECOME A KITE

Solid issue

>>93981365

>Joker lives in a residential neighborhood, and actually acts like a homeowner

That's actually hilarious

>>93981383

So what the fuck is Metal? What is the concept?

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>>93981233
Welcome back to canon, Jokermobile!

>>93981506

This story is to Zero Year what The Long Halloween was to Batman: Year One.

>>93999927
The anon you're replying to said he shouldn't be a kid killer

And then you wrote all that shit out to basically agree with him

>>93985891
kek

>>93983826
King is no perfect at all but that doesn't make all his work shit. All this hate is an non-spoken meme for any batbook, I mean have you ever seen any thread about batbooks or current writers (King, Tynion, Snyder) getting positive replies?

>>93981365
holy shit kek