What went wrong?

Nothing really

Slott.

I know he didn't do anything with the ongoing, but it's still his fault.

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not enough ecchi

She is literally a mary sue, actually she is more mary sue than the original mary sue character herself.

>>93962401
That was only when Slott had her. The solo was fine.

>>93962295
She was a literal Mary Sue, her entire backstory just cries out "Original The Character Donut Steel".

Even if Thompson redeem her a bit, she still has Slott's characterization clinging to her like a tumor.

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>>93962355
Man that whole mini arc with Peter and Cindy being unable to keep themselves from fucking was disgusting.

Felt like I was reading some fat balding middle aged white guy's fantasy about banging his perfect Asian waifu.

>>93962414
This. And I fucking loathed her when she was in ASM. But I have to admit, Thompson's solo book was pretty enjoyable for the most part.

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>>93962295
>What went wrong?

The art change.

>>93962431
You literally were

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>>93962431
karl anderson is living that dream

the art was hideous

>>93962295
>Same exact origin as Peter
>Except she's totally better than him
>First EVER asian american female superhero :^)

>>93962590
But Machine guy bust his ass in a ring every week. Slott just sit in a chair and publish his fanfiction

>>93962295
Good artist left

>>93962689
sounds like a typical "jock gets all the chicks, nerd just makes porn" thing.

>>93962471
>>93962606
>>93962706
This is the answer.
Also I skipped the Spider-Gwen/Spider-Woman crossover entirely because fuck those other books.

>>93962733
Not exactly. It's more a case of "working hard nets you good rewards"

>>93963128
more appropriate, yes.

>>93962295
Her introduction in ASM was awful. Her origin, her attitude and her role in the story were almost unbearable, and unsurprisingly made a lot of people give up on her before here solo series began. As for the series itself, Tana Ford's not a very good artist, especially when compared to Stacy Lee. Also, the ending was noticeably rushed. I assume Robbie Thompson thought he'd get at least one more arc after the tie-in with The Clone Conspiracy instead of having to wrap everything up in two issues.

Other than that, I think the series turned out pretty well. It's funny, I had no hope for it and was pleasantly surprised in the end, whereas I thought Spider-Gwen had a lot of potential but quickly got bored of it.

Okay Silk entire character history and publish history can be summed up as good intentions ruined by mediocrity. People say her comic is good but only the first volume and a half are good. The artist change did not help and the comic ended up being very low stakes. When you have one issue that is her and her normal human friends taking on the negative zone and one of them now controls a dragon to find her mother you start to realize the comic direction is long gone. She's never been a great character and her abilities like being better than Peter despite being in isolation make her not very compelling.

TL:DR: She could be good but she's let down by very mediocre writing and power creep.

>>93962295
The character born as a flawed second string character from spiderman and jump to his own comic in 3 seconds.
She was like 5 pages on spiderman comic "Hi I am silk, lets fuck" and then went to her comic "I am spiderwoman but not the spiderwoman"

She had never had the opportunity for fans to get used to her and like the character before her own solo comic.
So I think almost everyone had to choose between buy a comic of a character they know or "Spiderwoman the 7th who appears in 3 spiderman comics before", does not matter if her comic was good or not, fans will not buy a comic about a character they do not know shit (maybe if has a pretty good team writer/artist behind it)

What marvel thought? Is a minority spider woman character..what more do we need?

>>93962295
Bungled mary sue origin by Slott

Had to compete with two other more-established Spider-Women for reader attention

>>93962471
That'll do it.

Because she's too "K-Pop Korean" and not enough "Roof Korean".

Her introduction to the universe proper was tainted from the get go due to Slott writing and despite her solo book actually being good, her fucking Peter non stop after meeting him doesn't exactly endear her to new readers.

She also got the Robbie Reyes special too from Marvel, 'Yeah she's a new PoC character with her own solo book but we're not going to give her a push like we did with Ms. Marvel and Riri Williams'.

>>93962295
Bring back fucking Anya

Would /co/ read a book with Spider-Gwen, Silk, Anya and Julia teaming up led by Jessica?

I dropped her book after the Goblin King arc.
I know Phil Urich got shit on for years so I need to get used to it and the Goblin cure is Slott's invention so I can't blame it on Thompson, but that was still the most predictable and anticlimactic thing Thompson could've ever done with that.

>>93964020
>She also got the Robbie Reyes special too from Marvel, 'Yeah she's a new PoC character with her own solo book but we're not going to give her a push like we did with Ms. Marvel and Riri Williams'.

It may not be the case but this trend is pretty frequent among ''progressive'' media. Where most progressive characters are either black or a bland white female. Hispanics and especially Asians always get shoved to the side. I'd rather have more QT asian girls than another black girl with a giant afro.

Lack of a character identity and general thesis for her book. It's a problem for a lot of Marvel's titles. They all launch as minis. So you have a story that has a definite beginning, middle, and end. Which is fine for a mini, but does not work for an ongoing. For an ongoing, you need to establish the tone of the book, the players, and the corner of the world they live in. Then you do stories by shifting around those pieces and examining how it changes things. It's why so many books at Marvel feel directionless by the time they hit issue 10. The writer has told two or three stories by now, but they keep having to come up with new characters, new set pieces, new everything because they never established a base for the character to work from. This is where a lot of people get confused because they treat comics like they treat television or literature. You cannot tell an ongoing comic book with the same story structure as these things.

See: Silk, Howard the Duck, Spider-Man 2099, practically any comic written post Ultimate/Brubaker.

>>93964399
Silk's thing was finding her family and adjusting to life after the equivalent of a coma. Once her family was found, the next question was "Why were they gone in the first place?" which they had to rush through in a couple of issues because it was canceled.

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>>93964096
Did you read Web Warriors?

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How did we go from this...

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>>93964776
To this

>>93964528
No but now I need to.

>>93964825
It's pretty lousy desu

>>93962401
She was actually a well developed character in her solo books. Slott just can't write shit.

>>93962295
It stopped being cute

>>93962471
This is why I dropped the book.

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>>93964801
TO THIS?

>>93965072
Both the first and the last one look like weaboo shit, so not much has changed.

>>93964020

> first female Asian superhero ongoing.

I remember that still pissed me off the way Marvel spun that shit.

>>93962295
>another person with spider powers
WOW

Long hair>Short hair

>>93965515

This too.

>>93962471
> THE DELEGATES PETER

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>>93965278
>Stacey Lee
>Weeaboo shit

Kill yourself. Not even unnecessary robotic posing for you?

Slott creation, doomed from the start

>>93966041

It's amazing how she became a decent character when she got an ongoing.

She stopped being a slave to white dick. I couldn't suspend my disbelief at that point and the whole thing fell apart.