Was this show made to appeal to self-hating blacks?

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>dude every black person is an idiot except me lmao

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>>93948014
It was made to have an animated television show that starred a prominent cast of black people, and to educate ignorant white people (and ignorant black people, who also gets portrayal in characters like Riley) of the injustices black people suffer every day, all under the guise of funny writing.

>>93948014
Boondocks was a great show, much more anti-establishment than South Park.

It was a comedy show dedicated to showing the faults of the black community, while also showing love to them. It doesn't appeal to self-hating blacks, it's about showing the dumb shit niggas do & telling them to do better.

>>93948090

How does showing black people acting retarded educate white people on racial injustice?

No, it's a far-left black nationalist show. The fact that whites unironically laugh at all the black antics in it is just a side effect.

>>93948280
This is the correct answer.
>inb4 omg /pol/ can you just like not I can't even right now

>>93948280
Also the dumb shit that is put upon them. But moreso the dumb shit they do.

>>93948280
>it's about showing the dumb shit niggas do & telling them to do better
Fucking perfectly said.

About as much as Dilbert appeals to self-hating whites.

>>93948606
I don't even know how anyone could see that as /pol/. Fuck, I think /pol/ is complete shit, but part of loving anything (country, show, race, whatever) is admitting that it has flaws & wanting to see them do better. And of course, Boondocks also showed dumb shit that happens to blacks like what >>93948845 said.

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>>93948014
No.
Self hating blacks believe everything wrong in their community has to do solely with themselves and ignore the snowballing of centuries of oppression, forced broken family units, and the fact that they are barely even two generations removed from finally having the same rights as Whites.

This show finds itself in a position a bit more neutral than that. It shows that there are problems within the black community but points out the problems outside said community as well

>>93948120
This
South Park NEVER said something about Obama, since almost a decade it became completely part of the establishment.

but the fanbase are still pretending it's not a political show.

>>93948467
so Huey is really the character everytimes right?
because hes nothing but a radical conspirationnist who believe this is still the 70's.

I love being black and I liked Boondocks, so no

>>93948090
>of the injustices black people suffer every day,
Hello tumbler.

>>93948014
What's with all the Boondocks threads lately? Did it get put on Netflix? Did McGruder call someone a faggot?

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>>93951776
And then there's this faggot

>>93948014
Its a show about black people by black people who aren't afraid to alugh at themselves and point the problems around
And that's why it's better than 99% of shit on TV, people think cursing is censored and it's funny when it's not but the real problem with censorship it's how narrow the spectrum of things and opinions you can show becomes
That's why the Simpson, Bob's burgers and family Guy are all essentially the same thing

>>93949782
This.
>>93948441
It's just a show about Black people with magic surrealism and cartoon/anime logic. It tackles social issues on top of it. Are the character's flawed? Yes, just like humans in real life. Black family. Take away all the fantasy and it's a show about Black culture and social issues. Just like how if you take away the mafia aspect of The Sopranos it's still a series about Italian-American culture.

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>>93951865
>waaah pity me I face injustice every day, i'm so oppressed posting on 4chan right now.

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>>93948280
But this is wrong. It's about the black experience writ large. That INCLUDES the dumb shit black people do but is also HEAVILY concerned with the evil/dumb shit white people/America does - more so than the dumb shit black people do.

>>93950946
>never
In the show he's a professional thief that accidentally the Presidency. He spends a lot of time making excuses for the behavior of rich, powerful men, decides to watch tv with his family when nuclear apocalypse looms, and makes a deal with China to rig his reelection.

Sorry they didn't get around to showing he's actually Satan in a brown skin suit or whatever, dude just wasn't that interesting as President. Matt and Trey have been wanting to get away from making fun of the President anyway, it's too expected and everyone is doing it.

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>>93948014
>blacks actually point out what's wrong with their culture and poke some fun at their race while they're at it
>'must be made by some self-hating uncle ruckuses.'
Shit like this is why we can't talk about real race problems anymore.

>>93952154
>evil shit white people do
how's tumblr doing this time of year?

>>93948014
>if you're not a gangbanger thug or fucking retard you're a self hating nigger
Okay

I'm a traditionalist but must admit I find this show's social commentary a cut above what's found in The Simpsons, Futurama, Family guy, American dad and South park.

>>93948280
This. What dumbass thinks it's a show about black people hating black people? It's political satire that's unafraid of being uncomfortable for all parties, black or otherwise

>>93952411
Blacks are insecure emotionalist. Isn't this obvious by now?

No more than King Of The Hill appeals to self-hating whites.

I AM THE STONE THAT THE BUILDER REFUSED

>>93952483
How's it feel to be compelled to reply to every comment that threatens you with the same tired meme because you're intellectually incapable of coming up with anything more sophisticated, original, or nuanced?

>>93952411
If you think that's what's going on you don't know who Aaron McGruder is.

>>93952575
>insecure emotionalist
That's the dumbest thing I've read today. Do you also think people should just blink at insults and racial slurs like they never happened?

>>93952960
Exhibit B

>>93948014
The show was literally made for white people.
>"Lol, look at these niggers act like niggers!"

This is the audience. It's like an animated Chappelle show.

>can't make fun of other people
>can't make fun of yourself either
really rouses my receptors

>its a show about all black people being retarded lmao
>cherry picks the dumb blacks
>ignores the smart blacks and the ones ostracized by their community for being hard working like Leonard

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>>93951985
>/pol/ is this bullied by leddit

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>>93952575

so these guys are both black then?
>>93952483
>>93952960

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>>93948014
>if a black person watches a show that critiques polly wogs he hates himself

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>>93948280
Thread should've ended here.

>>93951053
No, Huey is wrong in a different way. The show points out that despite having good intentions, he'll never succeed in the revolution because Black People willfully choose to be ignorant. It's not all bad since ignorant characters like Thugnificent, Gangstalicious, Granddad, and Riley always face the consequences of their actions.

>>93953992
>he'll never succeed in the revolution because Black People willfully choose to be ignorant
not really him in the wrong then so much as the people

>>93950909
>forced broken family units

>>93950909
Yeah, the show is just an honest. Honesty is rarely pretty. Aaron doesn't discriminate, though, he's equally critical of everything that he feels is corrupt or immoral. I think the show focuses on the black community because, let's face it, the black community rarely gets criticism from anyone that isn't some dumbass racist. He strikes me as someone who likes to shine a light on things that everyone else isn't.

I agree and disagree with him on a variety of topics, but I always respect his opinion because his views are consistent. I never feel like an ulterior motivate is controlling him, and I don't get the impression that he holds back on punches because he's afraid to offend someone.

In that sense, Aaron is more South Park than South Park.

>>93953992
I always thought Thugnificent had the best end.

I always much preferred when this show was sentimental than when it was political, like the Huey painting episode, or the one about grandad's friend dying.

>>93954114
That's because he was smart enough to get a humble job as a delivery man while Granddad continues to waste money on dating crazy women, or stupid financial decisions.

>>93954065
>I don't get the impression that he holds back on punches because he's afraid to offend someone.

He started doing less topical episodes for the show because he pissed off Al Sharpton.

>>93954165
>Granddad continues to waste money on dating crazy women
Didn't he explain that in the episode? That he was old and fairly close to death and just wanted to enjoy himself some?

>>93954170
So much for courage.

>>93948014
McGruder made on hell of an IP that died a slow and painful death around the middle of season two, autistically I will break down each season from the perspective of a black autist.
Season one has McGruder examining black culture, critiquing what he saw as pitfalls that black people can fall into and ruin themselves in. Mixed in with this is light humor aimed at comforting the audience as harsher themes and elements are introduced. To compliment this each character is written and designed to represent different strata of black culture and society. With the two leads being the most important choices a black person can make in today's society, education or ignorance. Through all of this, he approaches each issue with nuance and careful thought. There are no direct enemies and all characters can be wrong to some degree and right, even Uncle Rukas.

This is best exemplified in the episode Return of the King, where McGruder shoves his middle finger in the faces of the selfish over privilaged black community. He pulls no punches and destroys the community for what they've done to the Civil Rights Movement and each character is in rare form.
Season Two has McGruder on fumes. While he still delivers competent episodes he;s more rushed. He's giving episodes less thought and decentralizing the creative process allowing the writer's room to start writing the premises and scripts themselves. This is the start of a steady decline in writing quality.
Season Three has one clear message: McGruder doesn't want to do this anymore. The characters are vague shadows of what they were from season three. The show is more vindictive to prove Huey wrong and glorify Reily's life. characters who were seen as idiots before are now the voices of reasons not because they are but the staff legitimately agreed with their stupidity and now promotes them as clear cut heroes. Plots are no longer gray but black and white. This person is wrong this person is right.

Season 4 is retarded.

>>93954170
>he pissed off Al Sharpton
Well, if anything can make me forgive him it's that.

I should have been more specific. I can't blame anyone for bending to leverage. "Is this the hill you want to die on" and yadda yadda.

I'm probably being a hypocrite here, but it feels like South Park has been backing off in fear of getting pressure without actually getting it. I'm not even conservative but they seem a little intimidated by the left, and willing to bend to them. And these are the guys who depicted Muhammed twice.

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>>93950909
>It's self hating to believe everyone is responsible for their own problems

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Black Entertainment Television... is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life!

>>93953992
>he'll never succeed in the revolution because Black People willfully choose to be ignorant
He'll never succeed in the revolution because some black people are ignorant, some white people are ignorant, some black people are malevolent (Stinkmeaner, BET), some white people are malevolent (Wuncler), some black people misplace their trust (Tom), and some white people misplace their trust (Jasmine). The agency of all of these parties in their behavior is never fully addressed; some are victims of the system, some are trying to protect their domain, etc.

But the show also shows MULTIPLE times that it's worth it put up the fight anyway. The prisoner, the Black Jesus play, Huey's helping hand to Jasmine after the lemonade stand thing.

I want to say that white people don't understand this show. But that wouldn't be true; plenty do. Just not most of the white people who come to 4chan.

>>93954267
I thought Al Sharpton was a racist anyway.

>>93953154
>The show was literally made for white people.
No it wasn't.

>>93954344
Al Sharpton isn't racist, it's pretty common of the Black shows to portray him as greed and self serving.

>>93954342
Why are you talking about a revolution when all the examples you listed are more, how to be a decent human being, rather than, a radical communist uprising where everyone is equal when we say so.

>>93954264
>This is best exemplified in the episode Return of the King, where McGruder shoves his middle finger in the faces of the selfish over privilaged black community. He pulls no punches and destroys the community for what they've done to the Civil Rights Movement and each character is in rare form.
How do you people misunderstand this episode so completely.

Anyway, the best episode is the lemonade stand episode, not Return of the King.

>>93954410
What is the point then?

>>93948280
the only correct answer to OPs dumbass question

>>93954377
Season 4 was

>>93954402
Huey's dream is a revolution where people use the existing structures to upend the hypocrisies and corruption of the system; he wanted basketball players to boycott and Oprah to fulfill her potential.

What actually works for him is being a decent human, yes, but often specifically in opposition to what expectations of society. The system had tried, convicted, and condemned a man. His case was effectively closed. Huey's response was to uncover the facts and protest, even though for all intents and purposes the system was working as it should be and it had decided that that man needed to die to fulfill his debt to society.

>>93948014
It was made so /pol/tards like you could miss the point. Cry more faggot.

>>93954539
Every season was.

>>93954467
The point isn't King's tirade. It's that it spurred on change. People focus on the monologue because it's shocking coming from him, but countless demagogues have berated the black community in such a way - and, considering what we know these days about how those conditions came about, it's not even clear that they're warranted.

But what's most important about the episode is that, in the end, the people rediscover their agency, regardless of whether or not the criticisms leveled against them are true.

The way people look at it, it's like if someone made a movie about the Newtown shooting and walked away thinking that the actual attack scenes were thematically more important than the scenes looking at the sociopolitical aftermath.

>>93954264
Why did McGruder quit? Was he burnt out or something?

>>93952960
Sticks and stones may brake my bones but words will never hurt me

>>93954856
He was working on Black Jesus, and I think Sony wanted him to do more episodes. I think he was fired rather than quitting on his own terms. Black Jesus was great.

>>93954933
>Black Jesus
Was it any good?

>>93954569
Being a decent person isn't a revolution. Plenty of normal average people are decent and kind every day without any incentive to themselves.

It's pointless to try and stop the system that exists. No matter what people in power will consolidate and centralize power to further their own interests. With scarcity and rarity applied to resources, it is impossible for anything to change as it is human nature to desire what is rare.

Instead of reading so much Afrocentric philosophy and theory he should have just read Les Mis.

>>93954781
That would be a good point if the entire set up to the point wasn't, 'Black society is cancerous'.' The episode ending as Huey's impotent wet dream dissolves your point and leaves only the set up to that moment as the current status quo. It would be great if that actually happened, but it never will because King's rant is as powerless and Huey's dream.

>>93954856
According to interviews, he went full Alex Hirsch on season one, micro managing every part of the show and its creation.

>>93948090
It was meant to show the actual scenario black people face every day

Yes they face police brutality from police officers of all races but they also are responsible for doing incredibly stupid shit for superficial spectacle

Just as one of many examples

The MLK episode was a solid representation of the modern black critique whereas the Passion of Uncle Ruckus was a solid critique of general idolatry in the US

>>93954393
Al shapton is EXTREMELY racist, he HATES white people

>>93954278
Yes, yes it is.

Just off the top of my head if I walked outside and mugged the first person I saw it wouldn't be their fault, but it would definitely be their problem.

>>93954946
Considerably. It had a good message, a good lead and it pissed off white people when it first aired.

>>93954951
Huey being a black supremacist and Afrocentric is part of the joke. It just doesn't work because they're few in numbers among the black community.

>>93954991
>it pissed off white people when it first aired.
Who? I wasn't pissed off by it. Maybe if it was the 1980s or earlier I can see White people being pissed off about a television show but post 2010s obscure late night adult swim live action show? Nah.

>>93951985
>posts interracial porn to bamboozle the ebil nazis every single day
>calls others manchildren

>>93954856
When season 4 was being made he was already planning or working on Black Jesus. It's why season 4 is low quality

>>93955080
I thought the Freedom Riders Episode was good, but the Kardashian episode was blueballing as fuck.

>>93955052
Mostly religious people baffled at the depiction of Jesus as a black man. At my old job three years ago, I had a picture of Jesus as a black man on display and ten minutes later, the frame was broken.

I was in Savannah at the time.

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>>93948090
>injustices black people suffer every day

ITT: white people dont get black people

No seriously.

Just try.

>>93948014
it was made to mock black american culture which is trash.

>>93954987
Nice false equivalence. We're obviously talking about behavioral problems here.

>>93955678
Nice attempt at moving the goal post, no we were not.

>>93955301
>Mostly religious people baffled at the depiction of Jesus as a black man.
The show is obvious satire. "Black Jesus" is walking around compton. Seems like if anyone was upset it was religous based, not race based.
>At my old job three years ago, I had a picture of Jesus as a black man on display and ten minutes later, the frame was broken.
Interesting anecodate but I don't see how you know it was broken because Jesus was Black, and even if it was that has nothing to do with the show.

I always love these threads, because it always shows just how many people don't fucking get what The Boondocks was all about, yet they keep acting like they do.

>>93955438
I'm neither, and I don't get African-Americans either.

That said, I'm really interested to know how The Boondocks would play in today's political climate.

>>93955773
No, being black was the exact reason it triggered those types. None of the complaints were from black pastors, clergymen, etc. And I mentioned Savannah for a reason: Eight years down there and the religious nutjobs are a dime a dozen, along with all the bibles, faith-based books donated to the job and a church being on every damn corner.

Being neck deep in that shit for that long, you'd know why Black Jesus triggered the response it did. Moreso if you know how the black church is with their depiction of Jesus.

>>93955301
I'd say the negative reaction to black depictions of Jesus comes more from the racist side than the religious side. As an evangelical religion Christianity has a long history of syncretism in art that continues to this day--look at the depiction of Jesus in missionary materials intended for Asia and Africa. It'd be as goofy about complaining that a depiction of Christ is pasty, wears medieval clothing, and reads from books instead of a scrolls.

>>93955746
Yes we are. That's what this entire thread is about.

It was a social commentary on black and general societal issues. McGruder was always on the side of reason over hysteria and tribalism. The R Kelly trial, the Obama episode, and the MLK Jr. episode show this. He's not down with ignorance and stupid attempts to be progressive.

>>93955812
Its like the same situation with Dave Chapelle and the reason he stopped doing his show.

>>93955999
That, too.
I'd even wager the same people I mentioned in addition to being religious were racist, too. I'm at least 65% sure.

>>93956043
Chappelle thought he was putting on a ministry show and the pressures of show business drove him insane. He wrote and starred in the show. he'd be doing skits for like sixteen hours a day, go home, come back and do the same shit. He couldn't trust anyone because people were trying to fuck with the show and he put a lot of pressure on himself for season 3. Eventually he couldn't take it anywhere and peaced out. McGruder was a slightly different situation. IIRC he liked what he was writing but it was a lot of work. He got burned out especially after the BET episodes got banned.

It was mostly about the shit the black people have to go through on a daily basis, but also showing parts of the community only making it worse.
There's a reason why the MLK and BET episodes were banned. The truth hurt both sides.

>>93956124
I'm pretty sure only the BET episodes were banned. The MLK episode aired all the time.

>>93956124
>>93956146

Why were the BET episodes banned?

>>93948014
No it was made to appeal to intellectuals and blacks at the same time.

>>93956124
The Tyler Perry episode got banned, too.

>>93956176
The use of the logo, I think and the same reason why the Perry episode got banned, a lawsuit.

>>93956176
It was a pretty big direct attack against BET, more importantly Viacom.

>>93953444
But that doesn't make sense. /co/ & it's ilk are some of the boards most bullied by outside forces like reddit and tumblr, considering they eventually gave up and accepted them in.
It's a working theory, but you, for example, is some convincing proof

>>93948014
No. It's made by blacks who like to poke fun and point out the negative connotations of black culture. Mostly the thug side of black culture.

>>93950909
>Implying anyone but blacks are responsible for their community.

Haha. Oh, wow. The conditioning is deep

>>93954987
not completely but they're fucking retarded to walk around places where muggings are common without any means to defend themselves

>>93957528
lmao I saw someone get mugged on the bus once. by people he knew it seemed.

>>93948014
>Be Black
>Read the Boondoks comic strips and thought they were okay.
>Watch the tv show
>Its pretty on point about a lot of shit and sad
>Its still funny as shit and pure kino.
>Uncle Ruckus and Stinkmeaner were all my buddies favorite characters
Need to bring this shit back.

>>93954033
If you apply a solution that doesn't fit your tools, it's an incorrect solution. That's the fault of Communism in a nutshell, as an example.

>>93957653
Are you telling me that there are exceptions to every rule?!
woah man you're blowing my mind
real groundbreaking shit right there
This changes everything
I think I need to go sit down for a while

>>93948014
Umm no? I'm not a self-hating black and I love this show. It's just a satire on black/white relations. Hell, it was more of a diss on white people while Aaron McGruder was running the show. Sucked after he left though.

>>93957714
wouldn't say people are the tools. also I thought communism didn't work because of corrupted assholes in the system?

>>93957787
so whose fault is it then?

>>93952851
I AM THE VISUAL, THE INSPIRATION

>>93954991
I mostly saw ultra religious black people getting mad. My mom sure did when she caught me watching someone names Jesus smoking weed.

>>93957836
>Corrupted Assholes
Human nature in action. That Communism encounters similar failures in every culture demonstrates it's a solution that doesn't fit the available tools.

And the people are the tools/pieces/whatever you want to call them that you have to work with.

>>93954933
>>93954946
I LOVED Black Jesus, that show needs to come back!

>>93952960
>Do you also think people should just blink at insults and racial slurs like they never happened?
Yes. Sometimes the correct move is nothing at all.

>>93957955
You'd like that wouldn't you, whitey? The only way to overcome racism is to make you people so uncomfortable that you give in.

>>93957881
THAT MAKES LADIES SING THE BLUES

>>93954946
I only watched one episode, and though it was a little tyler perry rather than hard satire. I figured I'd catch up with it sometime in the future. It's the ONLY live action CN thing I've ever considered watching.

What I REALLY wanted was an uncle ruckus election special. Its a shame he didn't get his movie.

>>93954146
Wingman and Riley WUZ Here are the shit

>>93948014
>any criticism of your own culture means that you hate it
So that's why liberals hate America

>>93957919
I suppose. but there are 'pure' people. perhaps a better test of humamity before employment would work?
just think anything is possible and wheter we let it be is a different thing

>>93954946
It's boring. It's less of a comedy and more of a serious story about ghetto life and black jesus is just some kind of weird gimmick.

>>93948014
White people watched this for the wrong reasons (Riley/Grandad, & Uncle Ruckus)

>>93954856
According to the voice of Pretty Boy Flizzy, Aaron was fired from The Boondocks

>>93955861
They did some more recent seasons in like 2014 and it sucked because it had a different writer. Well it wasn't that bad but it sucked compared to the first two seasons.

>>93948280
this it the answer to op's question
every other comment that is below this one should be ignored