Did that new Captain Britain even do anything? Do people even

>>93939468
It was an alternate reality/what if you fucking casual

go back to /pol/

>>93939468
Faiza is not the "new" Captain Britain. This did not occur in regular continuity. Brian was and still is Captain Britain.

>>93939500
Oh my bad then. I remember I read a Secret Wars tie-in and she showed up and I just thought "ok this is a thing now"

>>93939468
Haven't heard from her since her debut.

You'd really expect a character like her to blow up.

>>93939468
Isn't she supposed to be related to that black knight dude?

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>>93939468
>Captain Britain
>Burqa

>>93939545
That version of her was from the Age of Ultron Timeline.

>>93939644
They got together and he was teaching her to use a sword, but then Frank Tieri got his hooks in Black Knight.

>>93939644
She was his squire

>>93939607
I see what you did there.

>>93939696
Look, can we all just pretend Tieri's Black Knight didn't happen? Please?

>>93939500
She still mastered the sword Excalibur and is the new Excalibur.

>>93939727
If only

>>93939468
embarrassing pandering.

>>93939607
That is actually kinda her power. Taking things apart like the exploded view in a design program. Think Trafalgar Law.

Used to be Faiza only came up when discussing how cute she and how good MI13 was.

Times have changed.

>>93939607
kek

>>93939727
Denial is the first step anon.

The woman with the scarred face who had 2 kids was a better captain britain

>>93939824
I wish her actual power (and costume) would see more use.

>>93939848
I like Kelsey, but she was a terrible Captain Britain. But yes, she is a better Captain Britain than Faiza due to actually being Captain Britain, which Faiza is not.

>>93939856
Seeing her in that crusader outfit is just too funny.
But yeah, it's cool and a shame we don't seem to hear from her much these days.
She's set up to get real important, but naw, we need an uggo Squirrel Girl book.

>>93939498

Nobody likes mudslimes, Reddit.

>>93939955
Her and Captain Britain are appearing in USAvengers right now.

The only reason this thread got made was because of Jodie Whittiker being cast as The Doctor,

>>93939891
Which is like saying Pepsi is a better coke than coffee is.
But say, has she ever disassembled Avengers?

>>93939962
Nobody cares /pol/tv/

>>93939964
Really? Damn, must have missed last issue. Work is hell right now.

>>93939977
Doctor what?

>cute Muslim superhero fangirl suddenly becomes a superhero herself
Fuck you, Kamala

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>>93939990
And reassembled them!

It's just as well they gave her Excalibur. If she's swinging a sword around I don't have to see her do this horrifying shit.

>>93940039
It's Who, not What.

>>93940063
Why?

>>93940063
So you didn't watch the last season, I take it.

>>93940063
If not now, when?

>>93939805
It is now, but it wasn't when MI-13 was still going. That book was criminally underrated and it's sad that it only gets brought up these days to shit on that Doom and Dracula page or on Faiza.

>>93939964
Good to know, I might check it out.

>>93940050
Naw, she's instant body horror. I like it.

>>93939468

Look, I don't mind Marvel's diversity push, I really dont. You can't keep having every character be the pasty white selection from the 1960s.

But Arthurian legend is intrinsically tied to Christianity. The problem with making Captain Britain muslim isn't a problem with her being muslim as much as it being a problem with putting one religion's holy items in the hands of another religion. It'd be like teleporting the Ka'aba Black Stone to Salt Lake City - the problem isn't about Mormons, its that you're mixing religions and ending up offending both sides. Or, would you retcon Mohammed himself
into being, say, an eskimo grandmother? No, and you wouldn't not do that because you have something against the Inuit people or muslims, you wouldn't do that because it *doesn't make any sense*, its a muddled mess.

Bottom line, a muslim holder of excalibur wasn't about "diversity*, it was about being anti-western and anti-christian. I'm a liberal myself but I draw the line as self-hating, the best thing to ever happen to this planet was the western renaissance, we're living in a Golden Age and the very people who benefit from those advances bitch and moan about how bad the creators of those benefits are. Half the people reading this *wouldnt be alive right now* if not for the science and medicine western culture created, you'd died in childbirth, or from a host of diseases we've all but eliminated, or from starvation. But its hip and cool to bash western civilization - they're the only culture that allows that, have fun going to Saudi Arabia and critiquing the Koran, see how that works out for you when the religion police (honestly) pick you up and take you away for a quick beheading.

>>93939468
I like Brian, not the PC Replacement.

>inb4 bigot

Yeah, I am. I do not like Muslims. Others as well, but mostly Muslims. I have no problems with the Arabs, the Sikhs, whatever. I don't like Muslims. I don't hate them, I won't kill them, but I won't read about them.

>>93940128
>That book was criminally underrated and it's sad that it only gets brought up these days to shit on that Doom and Dracula page or on Faiza.

Good book, but stupid pages deserve to be mocked. Doom has Latveria looking like a medieval village and is an ultra-nationalist. This notion that he shouldn't be xenophobic or allow Mosques to be built inside the country is a liberal dream.

>inb4 gypsy

So? Just because you're not racist towards one group doesn't mean you can't be racist against another. Even Hitler liked some Jews (his childhood doctor).

>>93940378
You're putting too much thought into a capeshit comic that shares a universe with dancing talking trees and racoons dude.

Go read some real King Arthur stuff.

>>93939468
>Did that new Captain Britain even do anything?
It was a What If, and she was decent enough in Secret Wars.
>Do people even like Captain Britain in general?
Fuck you, Brian is great. And so's Faiza, actually.

>>93940378
>>93940387
She's not Captain Britain!

>>93939955
>>93939964
It sucks that she only ever shows up in street clothes and not her actual costume.

>>93940378
>>93940387

Nobody take the bait.

It amazes me how people who didn't even know what a Captain Britain was got upset over an alternative reality thing.

>>93940387
>inb4 bigot
More like
>inb4 fucking casual
or
>inb4 read the thread
because then maybe you'd know Faiza didn't replace Brian because it was an alternate universe.

>>93940378
Arthurian legends is rooted in paganism.

>>93940446
It's particularly grating here, since a one-panel cameo in the first or second issue had her in full costume.

>>93940387
I'm being baited but you should actually kill yourself

>>93939468
>new
I realize your tumblr feed may have tried to tell you different, but Brian is still around.

>>93940431
Yeah, she's Excalibur, big fucking difference...
>>93940447
God forbid somebody has actual opinions, huh? If you love Muslims so much, go live in Saudi Arabia. I don't wish ill upon them, but I won't buy books about them, simple as that.
>>93940452
She's Excalibur in the 616, same damn thing. All Brian gets to do is be ridiculed off-panel by Bendis.

>>93940494
And still sporting the dumb beard and one eye.
And probably still the last Captain Britain.
Thanks, Hickman.

>>93940416

Show me when a non-western religion gets stepped on like giving excalibur to a muslim and I'll agree with you. You'll never see a Marvel writer dare to do anything that might upset a muslim reader and you know it.

And thats exactly why I don't care for this, I have read real King Arthur stuff. Its western mythology, diversify modern characters all they wish but stepping on old legends is insulting to the culture. Its just ok in this case because westerners are fine with poking at their own culture. A small number of catholic pedofiles is unacceptable (and rightly so), but that women cannot go outside without a male chapperone is perfectly fine for third-world countries. The soft racism/culturalism of diminished expectations for third world countries. Regressive liberals are actually more racist and more sexist this way, they're brazen about it.

>>93940518
Most Muslims are evil desu.


Gtg fr bubba.

>>93940518
Dont take the bait.

>>93940518
>Doesn't know the difference between Wielding Excalibur and being Captain Britain

One is being a protector of the multiverse, the other is proof that you're the rightful King of England

>>93940548
It's capeshit from the same company that makes Norse Gods hang out with the Hulk.

Go read some real King Arthur.

I thought Christians had thick skin for this sort of thing.

This reminds me, I wonder if the Spirits of Vengeance team will remember that Blade is with Spitfire or just not research anything and have him fuck Satanna or whatever.

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>>93939468
She hooked up with a white dude and got herself porked with some infidel meat.

>>93940564
Different sword.

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>>93940548

>>93939962
Projecting your own views on to everyone is the first sign of being totally suffering from abnormal behavior and looking for a way to make it seem natural or perfectly acceptable. Try harder /pol/

>>93940548
Don't bother anon, it's not worth it.
>>93940560
This really is /co/mblr... I haven't said anything besides "I don't want to read about Muslims" and it's a bait. Jesus...
>>93940564
>NO, the Muslim woman ain't Britain's Premier Super-Hero and Protector of the Omniverse
>She's Britain's Rightful Heir

I really hope you're not actually British anon...

What's next? Muslim black female Iron Man? Cause no science character can ever be Christian or a Deist cause that's stupid, but Muslims are like, the most scientific people on Earth!

>>93940464

Arthurian legend is a mix of paganism and christian mythology.

You say that as if it was a rebuttal to my post but there is simply no way you are unaware of how much christianity is in those tales. The Holy Grail isn't exactly a druid artifact is it?

>>93940548
No body prays to Excalibur tho? Nigga what? Arthurian legends are not a religion

>>93940647
Nobody take the bait.

>>93939468
>casuals will probably continue to pass this cropped bullshit around for years
>none of them will ever act upset that their precious MCU icon Loki committed terrorist acts against the realm
>"Otherworld? Avalon? Huh?"
Yeah I guess it didn't matter in the end but I'm still sorta pissed by it.

>>93940651
Still not a religion tho. Nobody prays to Excalibur. Now lie back and think of England while the dirty sjw menace rapes your hobbies

>>93940647
>This really is /co/mblr

You spam this in every fucking thread that doesn't want to take your /pol/ bait. Fuck off.

>>93940676

I honestly do not understand how you could be this obtuse. Arthurian legend is steeped in christianity. "nobody prays to excalibur" isn't a counter-argument because its not the point.

Everyone go back to assuming anyone that disagrees with your limited worldview must be trolling. I don't blame you, this is /co/ after all.

>>93940700
>Imagine being such a brainlet that you literally one and only one person in this mongolian bicycle wheel making forum is responsible for all /co/mblr comments

WEW LADS

>>93940601
Is Faiza even a practicing Muslim?

>dresses like a crusader
>dates white American guys who also dress like crusaders

Storm the walls of my holy city, Dane!

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>>93940647
>This really is /co/mblr
What tipped you off? Was it the word 'tumblr' in the OP?

>>93940128
Faiza deserves to get shit on. She's a fucking doctor and says "wall-thing"? How old is she supposed to be?

"OMG Um, like, sorry I broke your wall-thing and stuff, or like, what-ever?"

This has to stop.

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>>93940802
If she's wearing a hajib when she's not being forced to, it implies some sort of religious practice.

On the other hand, I can't think of a single Muslim female character in Marvel who hasn't hooked up with, or at least lusted after, a white guy.

Even that support character from Mighty Avengers was implied to have a crush on the white dude who looks like Fabio.

>>93940802
She is, yeah.

People like to pretend Islam is the only religion without practitioners who are technically bad at following the religion because they have a looser, modern approach to it.

>>93940847
>If she's wearing a hajib when she's not being forced to, it implies some sort of religious practice.

Granted. But it feels like it's mostly used in comics as a visual shorthand.

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>>93940602
She pulled it out of the stone.

In Marvel, Excalibur and the Sword in the Stone are one in the same.

Otherworld is the collective subconscious of the British people. Most people conflate the two swords, so that's how they appear.

>>93940847
God I loved that book.
Pushed so hard against the "everyone's an asshole" vibe of Hickman stuff.

>>93940464
No it's not. It's based on Romano-British and Welsh folklore both of whom were Christian at the time it was believed to have been originally penned, and the later chroniclers and authors who created pretty much everything about Arthur aside from 'there was a warlord named maybe Arthur or Artur or something like that' were definitely Christian.

>>93940619
Why is it a shock to you that people dislike a religion of terrorists?

>>93940896
>Excalibur and the Sword in the Stone are one in the same

Man, I hate it when people do that.

>>93940847
It's becoming increasingly common to be used as just a fashion accessory.

>>93940783

It's a well deserved nickname, /co/mblr. This is probably the most cucked board on 4chan.

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>>93940965
I think you're confusing the hajib with the Keffiyah, which SJWs and hipsters wear because it's outright terrorist fashion.

Thought I honestly wouldn't be surprised if wearing the hajib becomes the next SJW fashion trend. Those people are immune to irony.

>Tfw I ship her with Ms. Marvel

Truly the crackest and most haram of ships. U mad sharias?

>>93940450
>it wuz an alternate reality dood

You have autism. People don't need to know who captain britain is to feel that a symbol of westerners is being appropriated by leftist comic book writers and muslims.

>>93940981
Because nobody wants to entertain your shitty /pol/ bait? Let me guess your favorite boards are /b/, /v/, /tv/, and of course /pol/?

>>93941006
Nobody take the bait.

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>>93941006
>People don't need to know who captain britain is
It matters even less with Captain Britain if you know anything about the character

There have been hundred of alternate reality Captain Britains, it's literally their schtick

>>93941049
I miss Captain Airstrip One.

>>93940564
That's the sword in the stone genius.

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>>93941072
She pulled it out of the stone

Also >>93940896

>>93941049
And that alternate Faiza was never even part of the corps, Brian just gave her the title because he was going on a suicide mission.

Is every member but 616 Brian still dead?

>>93941016
No, it's because nobody wants to listen to your tumblr Marxist drivel.

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>>93941111
Spider-UK is still alive

>>93941049
Even Pete Wisdom was retconned into being one of the alternate reality Captain Britains. That particular Captain Britain's appearance pre-dates Wisdom's first appearance by years, too.

>>93941111
Pretty sure they are, yeah.

>>93941121
>Buzzwords

Kid I know /pol/ makes you feel have sense of belonging but that shit will rot your brain.

>>93941128
Great

Dr Pavel > Dr Faiza

>>93941145
>I don't know what words mean!

You have to go back.

>>93941121
We deserve the /co/mblr nickname because nobody wants to listen to our "tumblr marxist drivel" and yet you came here bitching about comics you dont read?

Are you retarded?

>>93941167
Thats not an argument.

>>93941170
No, I come here to bitch about comics that suck, and read good comics that are storytimed.

>>93941182
You never made an argument to respond to, you just started autistically screeching about /pol/.

>>93940548
What is everything Iron Fist.
I will take shitbaiting casuals for 500.

>>93941266
You don't read comics. You come here shilling some political memes your barely developed brain took too seriously and then start screaming about /co/mblr when nobody wants to engage you.

>>93940601
Did he reconquer her Holy Land?

>>93941324
>projecting
I'm sorry I like good comics, instead of your Marvel SJW crap.

>>93941368
Oh here we go. That other thread wasn't enough for you?

>>93941342
Nothing. Everything!

>>93941385
>Iunderstoodthatreference.gif

>>93940378
>>93940464
>>93940651
>>93940902
worth mentioning that there was at least three Knights of The Round Table who were Muslims; Sir Palamedes, and his brothers Sir Safir, and Sir Segwarides, admittedly they all eventually converted to Christianity, but they were definitely all men of color

and besides them there's several other Knights in Arthurian legend who are non-White(even if we're counting the guy who is literally Green)

https://elodieunderglass.com/2012/10/13/713/

>>93941487
>who were Muslims
>but converted
Then they weren't muslims.

>>93941487
>there was at least three Knights of The Round Table who were Muslims
>People still feel the need to raceswap the other knights, including mah boy Bedivere

>>93941558
Well, Palomides is the only one who rates.

>>93941167
>>93941121
>Come into OUR board
>insist that everyone wants to listen to YOU despite everyone telling you to fuck off

You know what they call people who come into subcultures they know nothing about, act all offended, and try to force their morals onto them?

SJWs.

Are you a SJW anon?

>>93941487
>but they were definitely all men of color
>Muslims have to be brown

>>93939468
Would a character named John Bull who serves as kind of a mix between Union Jack and the Comedian who gets fired for being drunk and racist be considered too reactionary? Asking for a friend.

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>>93939468
>Captain Britain
>A muslim
Holy fuck

>>93941145
>>93941170
>>93942862
Not that anon, but I've been in the store every week buying books since the early 90's. I bought every issue of CB&MI13 as they came out. Faiza was cute in that book, but wielding Excalibur stretched my credulity. Cuckwing making her CB in AoU actively pissed me off. You can go fuck yourself with your group think, gatekeeping bullshit. Having opinions isnt bait.

>>93940920
Why is it a shock to you that nobody cares and everyone finds your constant droning on about it to be insufferable?

>>93939545
>I read a Secret Wars tie-in
You mean the event where literally every tie-in was set in a piece of an alternate universe outside of regular continuity?

>>93943737
If nobody cares, why did you reply?

>>93943666
Nobody take the bait.

>>93943763
We don't care that you don't like muslims. We do care that you insist on shitposting about it non-stop under the mistaken impression that we do care.

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>>93943530
Right, because the Captain Britain Corps is so pure.

>>93943789
Who's "we"?

>>93943849
People who browse /co/ for actual comic discussions instead of /pol/ bait threads

>>93943849
The People.

>>93943849
The umma

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>This whole thread

>>93939468
The biggest problem with Faiza is like everything when muzzies are talked about in Britain.

Nothing about Britain at all.

>>93941558
depends on the context, if it's set back then, then I agree that it's a little silly(at least if it's done for no reason), if it's one of those "everyone from Arthurian times gets reincarnated in the modern day" scenarios than I don't have a problem changing up some characters' ethnicities or even gender provided it's written well

>>93943386
Palamedes and his brothers were literally from Babylon, odds are pretty high they were meant to be some shade of brown

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>>93943904
Ok

>>93943875

I hate muslims but thank you for being offended on my behalf.

>>93943904
Why do you come to /co/ then? Leave kid.

>>93943974
He's also added by later French Historians like Lancelot though.

Also Palamedes is a Pagan.

ALSO he's literally a parallel to Palamedes from the Odyssey.

>>93942862
>SJWs hate themselves so much that they literally use themselves as an insult.

Kid, I've been reading comics for so long that I remember a time when Marvel had characters that were straight white males.

>>93944008
What is the opposite of virtue signalling?

>>93940601
Great, Dane.

>>93944145
Being correct.

>>93944167
Oh, duh. Obviously

>>93943901
There's nothing wrong with Captain Rotherham.

>>93943974
>Palamedes and his brothers were literally from Babylon, odds are pretty high they were meant to be some shade of brown
Thats Iraq, and there are literally blonde Iraqis.

Since Weirdworld is basically Marvel limbo maybe Faiza is there now and has a chance to hook up with Dane again.

>>93944405
How was Weirdworld anyway? Art looked good.

>>93939468
Why did anyone think this was a good idea?

After all these recent terrorist attacks, do you think the author regrets this?

>>93944499
The Secret Wars mini was great. The post SW ongoing was pretty good, but it starred almost all OC's, and failed to capitalize on the story momentum from the mini. I think it was a mistake to market a BK book set in Weirdworld and a separate Weirdworld book. Too thin for such a niche property. The should have combined both stories into one book. At least relegate one story to back-ups. Also don't have fucking Frank Tieri attempt to write.

Also Islam is incompatible with the West.

>>93944587
Knowing what I do about Cornell and Ewing, probably not.

At the time when she was created it wasn't quite as huge of an issue, since her team book ongoing was almost ten years ago now. She was cute, but I do think that it was laid on a bit thick with her wielding Excalibur, especially the issue where she and Dane meet her parents.

I do agree that currently, Faiza as the wielder of Excalibur in 616 is in very poor taste and very, very tone deaf. Having her as an alternate reality Captain Britain, on the other hand, is no big deal because thst's the whole deal with the CB Corps. Faiza is hardly the weirdest alternate reality member of the Corps, even if she is a practicing Muslim. Plus, Brian is still CB in 616, so it's not like he was replaced outright.

>>93940965
I've seen teens in skull-patterned hijabs, all colors, all shapes and variations so I guess it's a bit more nuanced and personal than just either religious oppression or harmless fashion item.

>>93941003
Does Faiza speak Urdu? If she does, her meeting Kamala could turn into an awkward scene if suddenly everyone else is excluded from the conversation.

>>93940464
So is christiany. Half if not more of the stories and the elements of it are copied of all kind of pagan religions

>>93939468
All I'm going to say is this: If /pol/ 1. knew that Captain Britain was a thing and 2. wanted to make a vicious parody that mocked the perceived failings of the current U.K. then this is probably what they would come up with. Make of this what you will.

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>>93941049
>There will never be a multiversial gathering of Captain Germany
Why life

>>93946457
You know it would not be a congress, but a parliamentary debate.
They would immediately divide into the versions where Germany ended up Communist, Fascist, monarchist, various democratic versions etc. and try to form a ruling coalition to determine a special commission to decide on what they should stand for.

>>93939468
>Captain Britain
>Britain
>muslim

>>93947300
Checks out.

so.......when does mad jim jaspena come out.
the reality warping alt right american who is part jew and christian

>>93947454
He's the Brexit incarnate.

>>93944143
You're only making it more obvious you're an underage casual.

>>93946060
Her parents do, so it's possible (likely) that she does as well.

>>93943666
You're not that anon, Satan, so my comments don't apply to you.

Really, are you defending posts like >>93941121? Are you saying that's a constructive opinion from someone who wants to have a reasoned debate? Does it sound like the post of someone who actually reads comics?

>>93946457
That's because the fucking German government objected to the character of Hauptmann Deutschland, and Marvel stopped using him as a regular character. They still slip him in from time to time, so it's not unreasonable to think there are other multiversal variants on him.

>>93944145
Trolling?

>>93944647
I really liked the Black Knight series and brought every issue. Apparently I was the only one.

>>93939468
I still have no idea who this fucking is even after she showed up in MAA RIP

>>93948735
Which administration objected the Hauptmann?
On what grounds?

>>93948833
The character was introduced in 1991 and he and his team showed up occasionally for a few years after that, which was when Helmut Kohl was in office.

>>93948973
I mean, I see why you would want to object someone else having a character that purports to speak for your country without getting any say in what kind of values or ideas this character would champion.

>>93943946
There's nothing more British than a Pakistani doctor though.

>>93949162
Well, there's chicken tikka.

>>93949135
Fair enough, they did affirmatively respond to the German government's request that they not portray Germans as people who stand up for themselves, fight for freedom, or are patriotic.

Things haven't seemed to have changed much.

>>93949252
Yeah, they successfully averted Americans dictating their representation of the country. What cucks! They must hate freedom to stand up against someone who wanted to tell them what to stand up against!

>>93949365
I'm not saying they don't have the right to complain, I'm saying it says a lot about their national mentality compared to ours.

>cucks

You have to go back

>>93944647
>don't have fucking Frank Tieri attempt to write.
Like it or not, Tieri is the only person in the industry who gives a fuck about Black Knight.

>>93939498
>/pol/
You are a male virgin who reads comic books. You are no better than the racists towards whom you feel superior

>>93950118
He's superior because he's posting on the right board.

You have to go back.

>>93950118
>point out someone is posting a bait comic without context
>"You are a male virgin who reads comic books. You are no better than the racists towards whom you feel superior"
u wot m8

>>93949734
As a German, I don't necessarily think so.
See, it is one thing to have German characters in comics. No problem.
But if you have Americans make a character that speaks for the German state and/or nation, that is another thing.
This is Americans deciding what Germany ought to be. And that is a very sensitive point there, especially just after the Cold War.
It may seem petty and bureaucratic, but making a military officer a representative of the German people would be in and of itself questionable enough in the historic perspective. Under Kohl, Germany was still working very hard to look non-threatening to everyone, so any implication of a violent Germany was unwelcome. But having an outside power cavalierly send such a representation through all kinds of adventures, that could lead to some scandal and harsh words at an inopportune time as Germany was reintegrating a third of its current population.

You can probably see the point about not having others define who you are.

>>93939468
There is only one reason to care about Captain Britain and it is not Britain (although it is British)