The Hulk's Hulk

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>>93907593
a stronger hulk that was fueled by sorrow than rage...
yeah that's dumb
they also already had a KLUH
he was great, he was a hulk created by Xenmu or whatever that big white furry guy's called.

>>93907593
I continue to be unimpressed by Matt Fraction. Kluh will never stop being a shit idea. Especially when compared to the Grey Hulk.

Still prefer Remender over Waid.

>>93908058

Kluh was from Remender's AXIS event.

you're thinking of that weird Fear Itself Hulk that Fraction had in his Defenders run.

>>93907593
Wouldn't the inverted Hulk just be the devil hulk?

>>93907593
>Hulk gets hit with a magic backwards spell and turns into Kluh
>Punisher is killed and gets brought back as a Frankenstein
>Army guy who likes Spider-Man gets his legs blown off, but then the Government gives him Venom to grow him new legs and also it grows him guns
>Apocalypse can travel in time, so he goes back in time and makes four Horsemans of Death because Death is the coolest one

If you told me that every Rick Remender plot was written by the kid that did Axe Cop, I would not have any trouble believing it.

>>93908110
Your right. It's getting harder to keep track of all the worthless crap that's been happening to the hulk.

Thank's for the correction.

>>93908271
Kek

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>>93907708
>a stronger hulk that was fueled by sorrow than rage...

literally musou tensei

>>93908271
>>Army guy who likes Spider-Man gets his legs blown off, but then the Government gives him Venom to grow him new legs and also it grows him guns
This was Sott tho

I did like the part with Loki, though.

>>93908271
>>Army guy who likes Spider-Man gets his legs blown off, but then the Government gives him Venom to grow him new legs and also it grows him guns

to be fair most of that was not Remender's doing.

Marc Guggenheim wrote the story where Flash was crippled, and Slott created Agent Venom, Remender just wrote the ongoing (aka it probably would've happened with or without Remender, just not to the same quality level)

>>93908282
Don't forgot that they'll never stop piling the dumb bullshit on. Ever.

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How many hulks have spawned from Banner anyway?

Gotta be more than 10 at this point.

>>93908452

true, but they also probably won't acknowledge most of it for a while either.

outside of Planet/World War Hulk and Skaar's existence, how much of the last decade's worth of Hulk stories have really stuck with Hulk?

Kluh, the Fear Itself thing, Jason Aaron's Banner is the real monster, Doc Green? all quickly forgotten.

>>93907593
AXIS was stupid... could be good as an story arc, but as event? no, thanks!

>>93908598
is.. is this from a gay comic porno?

>>93908598
Was that issue like a weird joke? Like was the artist instructed to make it as gay looking as possible?

>>93908743
Exactly what I was thinking
Either that or banner has not only a rage and sorrow hulk but also a rape hulk.

>>93908656

thats been true for most of Marvel's events for the past...8 years?
House of M, the first Civil War, Secret Invasion (maybe?), AvX, and Secret Wars are the only ones that seem monumental enough to warrant being real events.

Fear Itself should've stayed the originally planned Thor/Cap crossover that it was. AXIS should've just been a Uncanny Avengers arc. Siege should've just been a Bendis Avengers/Thor crossover.

>>93908598
This will never stop looking like the start of some bara yaoi doujin.

>>93907593
I LIKE KLUH

man, i wish there is some more personalities hulks.

It was kind of funny.

>>93908598
I don't even remember some of them are just weaker or stronger Hulks they don't even looks different, also was Doc Green the perfect Hulk or something?

>>93908598
This must be where the Dillon 4chan banner panel came from. Was this Ennis' Punisher run or did Dillion do art for someone else, or...?

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>>93908656
Yeah but it was FUN stupid. It was the kind of stupid that makes you giggle uncontrollably and watch at what crazy nonsense will show up next.
I'll take AXIS' fun stupid over most of the other modern event's boring stupid any day.

>>93909459
It was Ultimates 3
Same run with the gay blood sucking.
I'm not sure what was up with this run but it was suuuuuuper gay.

How is Kluh different from the Devil Hulk personality?

>>93908743
gay hulk lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv6gAxM5LgM

Eh it was fun. AXIS was the last marvel event that I enjoyed. The Carnage and Hobgoblin minis were top notch.

Kluh was silly, but the issue of Nova where Sam fought him was great

>>93907593
why does he look like an All New All Diverse Guido Carosella?

>>93907593
>Admit
As soon as that happened there were a tons of threads shitting on it, who anywhere on the internet was calling it genius?

>>93908307
> hey everybody I read Captain Tsubasa aren't I cool

>>93909632
I love Terry Dodson's woman

>>93909203
Doc Green was some weird bullshit but he wasn't the perfect Hulk. The closest thing to that was The Professor.

When can we just skip ahead to The Maestro?

>>93907593

"admit" it? How could anyone possibly argue otherwise???

>>93908743

Ultimates. This is a clone with an engineered brain.

Never explained why he's green instead of gray.

>>93908747

Very probably. No, actually the previously timid Nerd Hulk was already under the influence of a vampire (don't ask, please God) and was deliberately provoking Cap.

>>93911778

I'd say that was Green Scar / Worldbreaker, since the Hulk is a creature of rage.

>>93911847
What would he do besides rule a shitty wasteland?

>>93909632
>Yeah but it was FUN stupid.
Not really.

Stupidly fun, yeah.

>>93912962
>I'd say that was Green Scar / Worldbreaker, since the Hulk is a creature of rage.
This.
The Professor was just Banner with Hulk's body, and even then it had that huge drawback that if he got too angry he'd revert to Banner's body.
Green Scar was his optimal form. Intelligent, angry, powerful and above all, it was still Hulk, not Banner, who was in charge.
I'd dare say Green Scar is the closest to El Maestro in terms of power.

>>93912969
I wouldn't mind seeing an arc with the Maestro taking over the scorched Earth after the apocalypse. You could even have him fight another massively powerful hero or villain who survived the blast and wants to take over themselves.

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What's the consensus on "Hulk: The End"?

>>93907593
>People on /co/ actually defended this

It was almost surreal.

>>93913863
I liked it. It wasn't anything special, but I enjoyed it.

Future's End is still my all time favorite Hulk story. The only thing I think when I see Red Hulk is "literally shitty Maestro."

>>93907593
I liked that dude.

Also: Remender did the best X-Team run in the last 15 years.

>>93913863
It's good. It's a shame though that PAD's written three different endings to the Hulk and they're all depressing as fuck.

>>93908598
Savage Hulk
Gray Hulk
Kluh
Gravage Hulk
The Merged Hulk
The Green Scar
Mindless Hulk
Doc Green
Dark Hulk
Hulk Squared
Compound Hulk

>>93913976
How does each of those endings go?

>>93914041
I'll storytimed then in a bit.

>>93907593
you clearly haven't read enough Hulk comics if you think this is stupid

this is a bastion of sanity compared to World War Hulks not that WWHs was bad, it even follows the internal logic of how Hulk works and the established fact of Hulks being sub-personalities or facets of an individual

which of course draws on the werewolf concept that the original 6-issue Lee/Kirby mini pushed so hard, minus the moon being the cause of his changes - it stands to reason that when the shock of a hidden self has worn off you'd introduce another

>>93908307
>SUCH A RONERY MAN

>>93914218
Nice. Thanks anon.

>>93908607
>Jason Aarons banner is the real monster
This man is a bad idea factory. Everything he touches is garbage.

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>>93913863

This annoys me to an unreasonable degree.

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Hulk: The End
I don't think I'll be able to do the third one so it'll just be this and Future Imperfect

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>>93907593
is the H at the end silent?

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>>93912962
>and was deliberately provoking Cap
So after that conversation, he bought him a post-workout drink from the juice bar?

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>>93908125
>Devil Hulk
Yeah, it's like nobody who writes Hulk has ever read somebody else's run. Devil Hulk, or nightmare Hulk, or whatever you want to call a hulk driven by the darker, more depraved side of Banner (instead of the righteous fury of normal Hulk) is an idea that's been around and hinted at forever but nobody ever pulls the trigger on.
Then we get Kluh. Weaaaaaaaaak.

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>>93914622
Yeah the hulk shouldn't have feet

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Here comes a new challenger!

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>>93914936
>it's like nobody who writes Hulk has ever read somebody else's run.
It seems to be a bigger issue than it should be

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>>93909632
who is green scarlet witch

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>>93915132
Enchantress

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>>93914920
He got cap to suck him later in that issue

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>>93915271

>>93915180
i imagine the robot has the voice of john cleese

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>>93911730
C'mon, HnK is cool

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>>93911730
>not reading Ken
Pathetic

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>>93914969
Couldn't Hulk just do a thunder clap that would cause a big enough wind to slap away all the bugs?

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>>93915473

>>93915483
Yikes, that hits hard.

>>93915483
Thanks Anon. This was one of my first comics and I love it. It gets a little long winded at the end as Banner is having a heart attack, but it's still a really great, moody story.

>>93915586
No Problem. I'm gonna try and get Future Imperfect ready to storytime and see if I can't make the other one work. Be back when it's all set

Hey thanks for the Sunday morning storytime

>>93915636
Thanks for doing this.

>>93915483
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

>>93915483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRjLv1L0WF8

>>93914920

Sort of.

>>93914971

That's Abomination. He has only two toes per foot.

>>93915929

Wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_lYcTxncNg

>>93909632
>Yeah but it was FUN stupid.
Is this the same excuse you people give MCU films?

>>93916579

So what movies do you like, anon?

I know it's not superhero movies - there is no escaping 'fun stupid' if you want to make a superhero movie that humans are capable of enjoying.

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>>93916689
>DUDE JUST TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN AND ENJOY THE FUN LMAO

So this is what modern Marvel fans are like, huh?

>>93912969
Play Contest of Champions with Jeff Goldblum.

>>93916776
Oh yeah, dumb Marvel fans, nothing like us fellow DC fan with our critically acclaimed Suicide Squad , like, tell me of another super hero movie that has an Oscar in their belt #makeupawardsmatter
It sure feels right to be a deep philosopher enjoying our deep movies, aint that right fellow anon?

>>93916776

So what movies do you like, anon?

>>93908271
I'm still surprised that the distaste for Frankencastle seems to have more longevity than the fact he was murdered and dismembered by Wolverine's biracial bisexual rapist son.

>>93907593
Is there an The Hulks's Hulk's Hulk?

>>93917569
>He will never answer.

That anon is a pussy. I bet he going to say Spider-man 2.

>>93908271
Let's not forget every group of villains having their own entire secret cities

>>93909722
Nah, it was Ultimate Avengers. Ultimates 3 is even worse but it's by Jeph Loeb and Maduiera, not Millar and Dillon

>>93917569
>capeshit
X-Men
Captain America: Winter Soldier

>non-capeshit
The Terminator
Escape from New York

>>93917538
>>93917569
>conversation is about how stupid Marvel's comics are
>UH UH WELL MARVEL MAKES BETTER MOVIES THAN DC

really makes me think

>>93916579
If all that's available is stupid (and that's pretty much the case with cape comics in this decade) then fun stupid is at least fun, while boring stupid can't entertain on any level at all.

>>93919216
Or you could read something that's GOOD and fun, like AXIS Hobgoblin or AXIS Carnage. You have shit taste and low standards.

>>93919207
I'm pretty sure thinking is a totally foreign concept to you.

>>93914936
>Yeah, it's like nobody who writes Hulk has ever read somebody else's run.

PAD was a salty bitch when he returned to the Hulk and tried to retcon nearly everything that occurred in his absence (including the Devil Hulk) into nothing but bad dreams caused by Nightmare..

>>93920656
Probably because all of it was retarded.

>>93913978
maestro

>>93913978

Also Devil Hulk. I think Paul Jenkins' run was the one who had all the different Hulks shown. I remember Devil Hulk because he was supposedly the worst out of all the different Hulks. He's some big yellow lizardy looking fuck. I think the last time he was shown was in David's Abomination mini series.

>>93914936

Ultimate Hulk kiiiinda edged closer to that idea, but I don't think anyone will ever take it to it's logical conclusion because that would basically be an issue of Crossed x 10000

>>93908110
AXIS wasn't supposed to be a crossover event.

I admit that shit was stupid as hell

>>93919415
>Or you could read something that's GOOD and fun
Problem is there's a severe shortage of such stories.

>>93915483
I appreciate the dump.

Poor Hulk. Even a big dumb green monster has a heart ;_;

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Hulk: Future Imperfect

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>>93924455

modern superhero comics are so retarded lol

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>>93924795
The star of the show

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>>93922038
Yeah, after all the shit that happened around this, not surprised at all he can't be fucked writing for marvel anymore.

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>>93925114
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>>93925447

>>93920656
That's what he should have done. A lot of stuff done while he was off the book was dumb.

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>>93914983
Deodato tracing some Pitt there.

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>>93925578

>>93924455

perez was always good with these huge crowd scenes.

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>>93925660

>>93913064
I'd take it over Civil War II and Secret Empire.

>>93916579
>>93916776
That's more of a creating characters that are enjoyable and relatable even if the story is kinda bare bones.

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>>93925759

>>93915483
What, that's where it ends? This is the low point on the hero's journey! There should be an upturn now, a healing!

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>>93925724
"The Wild Man"?

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>>93925187
After Vector flays his skin and he regenerates naked, Atlanta makes a comment that suggests it's huge.

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>>93908743
It was from an extremely homoerotic Ultimates volume about Hulk turning into a vampire or something

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>>93925891
uh, I never noticed the bed decorations before

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>>93926039

>>93925905
we don't know him, yet.

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>>93926067
Shit, he's taking his fucking time of coming around even with the sliding timeline bullshit.

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>>93926108
He was from the Maestro timeline, it's perfectly possible his existence was avoided due the Future Imperfect events.

>>93926108
I'm guessing The Wild Man will be like Superman, but well... wild.

Marvel is far too gritty for a Wild Man, when the world is more peaceful we will finally meet him.

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>>93915080
demn nips on sue

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>>93915080
where was She-Hulk in this event

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>>93908747
It's just Dillon
He was closeted as fuck
(May he Rest in Peace though)

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>>93926696
Ah man that was a good comic. Ty for storytiming both of those comics. Wish Hulk actually still had a comic. The new Shulk and amadeus cho are no where near this level of storytelling.

>>93914814
>200 years
Lame
It should have been like 200,000 or 200,000,000
For things to be REALLY crazy

If you're going to have Banner torture porn, why not go a little crazy?

>>93925784
Fucking ruthless

>>93917655
Frankencastle was fucking fun and I'm a Dakken fan anyway. I never got the hate and alot of it was from Frankophiles.

>>93915483
I liked that, thanks

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>>93925905

http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/wildman.html

He never received any kind of follow-up or conclusion.

>>93927748
Wasn't he retconned into a "Homo lupus" like Wolverine?

>>93926520
What could have killed Thor? Nukes wouldn't do shit, and the Maestro says that Thor could possibly have taken him out if they brought him from the past

>>93927945
Serpent poison?

>>93925797

It's a "The End" comic, shows the end of a particular super hero. In this case, Bruce Banner.

And Hulk will just go on living forever. So long as he has the will to live. And as we saw on an earlier page, he thinks of his own lifespan as revenge on everyone who's ever wronged him, everyone he hates. If he were to die, these people who have long since stop existing would "win" and Hulk can't lose. He will never let himself lose. He's trapped by his own hubris.

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>>93925930

Hulk got raped. Repeatedly, this would suggest. I know some people will get turned off from it but I love Peter David's urge to push the boundaries. Sometimes he hits, sometimes he misses but I love that he always was willing to take a chance.

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>>93926311

>That joke

>>93926387

>1992
>write a comic with a subtle lesbian protagonist
>no one gives a fuck
>2017
>write a comic with an over the top self-congratulatory, virtue signaling lesbian protagonist
>showered with praise and awards

>>93928264
It's not suggesting.
It's pretty much stating.

And we both know it could never happen today.
And that makes me angry.

>>93928511

Comics weren't mainstream then, but they were literature. No one cared what happened in the book, because it's a fucking book, crazy shit has been happening in books since the dawn of time. The people reading them just wanted some cool stories.

>>93928622
I'd make the argument comics arn't mainstream now. Whatever you want to call the MCU/nerd culture stuff the actual people who read comicbooks are still a real niche subculture.

>>93925526
K I N O

>>93928728

Comics are incredibly mainstream. Nerd culture is incredibly mainstream. Everything Marvel produces is extremely safe and sterile. It is not a medium where people are going to tell interesting stories anymore, comics have moved further and further away from being books and are now produced in the way a children's cartoon or young adult television series would be.

>>93929055

>>93929664
>Comics are incredibly mainstream.
They definitely aren't. Any look at sales can tell you this

>>93929754

Look at sales of superhero merch. Super hero movies have been the biggest box office draw for about a decade now. Back in the early nineties we had one big comic con each year. Now there are comic cons the size of the old SDCC literally every week around the country. Even if the book themselves aren't selling comic book "culture" is incredibly mainstream. And the only purpose of the books themselves is to maintain that culture.

>>93929857
Superheroes might be popular, but comicbooks themselves aren't at all. Movies aren't comic books, and there's no "comic book culture" when no one reads them in the first place

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>>93924397
So, he's suddenly back in Old Man Logan and leading a militia-cult of alternate Hulk descendants, including the hillbilly ones from OG Old Man Logan.

>>93925028
I love that Shatterstar gets a place between Iron Man and Dr. Strange.

>>93911730
HEY, FUCK YOU

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>>93931957
Just assume it's non-canon because Deoshitter is the artist

>>93907593
Kluh was the most retarded idea ever.
Hulk really should have stayed dead.

>>93931957
Different Maestro.

>>93931957
>>93931993
>>93932104

I assume it's the one from PAD's Spider-Verse-era Spider-Man 2099 that went back in time and then just kind of vanished.

Or maybe the one from Battleworld and Contest of Champions escaped from the Collector.

>>93925316

>Jean Grey (AGAIN!?)

HA!

>>93907593
It was dumb but fun

Axis in a nutshell really

>>93930030
You, I like you. You get it.
Have a (YOU).

>>93925930

>Maestro just sits in a room all day with tiny human women climbing all over him like cats while people fuck eachother around the room

Seems like a nice guy to me.

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>hulk and maestro are fighting in that trophy room full of super heor artifacts

>fucking infinity gauntlet with full set of gems is on display and nobody uses it

>>93933809
Don't forget the cosmic cube

>>93933809
It's just a visual gag

>>93909632

Agreed. I don't want all of my entertainment or all of my comics to be this way, but once in a while, something balls-to-the-wall kooky and madcap and fun like this is a welcome breather. Remender had done plenty of super-serious work for Marvel like Uncanny X-Force which was great for what it was, and in fact one of the best X-Men storylines of all time, but it was neat seeing him just being like "Okay, now let's have a fucking giggle," and gave us shit like Carnage's rhinestone-studded dying wish.

Superhero comics can be a lot of things. I don't resent it in the slightest when a given writer tries more than one of those things over the course of successive stories.

>>93913978
Do alternate timelines count? Because then you get the Earth X old Hulk/blind Banner dealie, too.

>>93933809
Maybe they are just replicas. They are cosmic artifacts originally not from earth. Maybe some aliens chose to pick up after nuclear war had settled

>>93930030

Yes, no one is reading them, again, that's not the point here. I guarantee if you had a comic today where Hulk is repeatedly raped off panel it would cause a shit storm, reagardless if anyone actually bought the comic or not. More likely, it would never see the light of day in the first place as the editors are focused on keeping the comics as safe and non-offensive as possible. The whole point of the Marvel comic books right now is to not rock the boat in any way that would turn people off from the movies, Netflix series or buying merch. I expect that eventually Disney will decide the actual comics aren't needed at all.

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