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Fantastic Four in the MCU

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http://thekingdominsider.com/d23-reveal-fantastic-four-coming-mcu-avengers-infinity-war-maybe/

>Is Disney going to drop the mother of all MCU bombshells this weekend at D23 by revealing that The Fantastic Four will be in Avengers: Infinity War?
>It’s possible, as evidenced by four mysterious covered figures that have appeared in the Marvel Studios area that set to be revealed Saturday.
>The four mystery figures definitely fit the silhouette of The Fantastic Four, with Thing towering above the other three.
>We’ve been speculating for months that Marvel may have worked out a deal with Fox that will see The Fantastic Four come to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and this might be the big reveal. Marvel worked out a deal with Sony to bring Spider-Man to the MCU with critical and commercial success. Given that Fox’s last attempt at a Fantastic Four film was a huge box office bomb, they may have nothing to lose by teaming up with Marvel Studios.
>There’s a lot of odd coincidences that could be used to support this theory.
>Marvel has recently turned the Fantastic Four merchandise machine back on.
>Hulk actor Mark Ruffalo said Marvel would be revealing some new footage and it would “blow people’s minds.”
>The plot of Spider-Man Homecoming involved Tony Stark selling Stark Tower to unknown buyers. There’s another superhero team that operates out of a tower in NYC… The Fantastic Four.
>Fox suddenly has the rights to produce X-Men TV series, when that was off limits before. Could they have traded film rights for The Fantastic Four?

What do you guys think we're actually dealing with here?
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>>93893551
Marvel already presented. Thanos destroys a moon and rains its chunks down against the heroes. No Fantastic Four.
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>>93893551
Some kind of inhuman bs
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>>93893551
It's the Black Order. Duh.
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>>93893551
They're standing behind Thanos. My guess is the Black Order. Not really thrilled about it, since none of those characters were ever very interesting to me, but that's what makes the most sense.
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>>93893589
>>93893625

There's more than four members of the black order, though.
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>>93893662

Maybe not in the movie
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>>93893551
The Black Order... Ben isn't bigger than Thanos, he isn't even bigger than Thor!
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>>93893551
It's not Fantastic Four you fucking autism commie faggot.
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>>93893551
Have they revealed these things?
when are they going to do it?
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>>93893551
Fox is never giving up the FF rights
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>>93893551
Marvel also stated that Legacy would feature a returning character that would blow people's minds.
Hype?
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>>93893731
2:30 PT apparently.
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>>93893662
Proxima & Corvus could share a statue, or they could just like Superwho out.
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>>93893777
How many hours is that from now
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>>93893822
Like, 20 minutes
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>>93893551
>fox giving up their rights to fantastic 4
they don't even know what fair use is since they flag reviewers for reviewing their shows. Why do you think they're going to give up their rights to fantastic 4?
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>>93893771

Marvel also claimed a series of variant covers would change the comics industry forever

don't believe the hype
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>>93893771
One character. Not 4 retard.
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>>93893895
>Why do you think they're going to give up their rights to fantastic 4?
Money. They're done making anything on the franchise after the last one. They may as well sell it.
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>>93893689

>he isn't even bigger than Thor!

wat
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>>93893897
this aint marvel comics double nigger
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>>93893897
>>93893902
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>>93893882
Well, shit
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>>93893909
this is fox were talking about. They keep their franchises however they can.
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>>93893551
Here they are.


let's DANCEE OFF BRO.
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>>93893736

And yet Disney made a theme park with Avatar and they somehow miraculously got X-Men TV show rights that were previously off-limit.
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>>93893971

Like they kept Daredevil?
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The Marvel film panel has been so it should be revealed soon
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>>93893992
Disney got the Watchers back. Fox had no use for them.

Watchers was lifted off ban too. Uatu still banned with aaron.
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It is 100% the black order minus Supergiant. This has been confirmed for a while now
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>>93893934
Ben is 6ft
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>>93893934
Ben is tops 6'
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>tfw it's 4 naked Elizabeth Olsens to hype a new AR app where you can fuck a virtual Elizabeth Olsen
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>>93893937

Ok

It's still not the Fantastic Four, dreamboy
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>>93893909
But is Fantastic Four worth the amount of money Fox would want from Disney? I don't doubt Disney could make a quality movie and it would be awesome to see Dr. Doom kick everyone's ass but I don't see them paying up for a franchise that's been shit on time and time again.
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>>93893551
>Marvel worked out a deal with Sony to bring Spider-Man to the MCU with critical and commercial success.
when will this meme end?
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>>93894040
>comparing Daredevil to Fantastic 4
ISHIYGDDT
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>>93894157
It's true
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>>93894119

Good taste.
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>>93894133
Disney would make a big move that everyone loves and makes millions.

Fox hero movies are ultimate dog shit invented by gay pedos.

The Color black is for rapist pedos who are eBay gay.
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>>93893551
Seems unlikely. It looked like the Thanos statue they have in the same area was life-sized, so I can't imagine they'd have mini-statues for a big character reveal.
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>>93894133
>is Fantastic Four worth the amount of money Fox would want from Disney?

No

Disney can take lesser-known characters like Star-Lord and make Box Office gold. They wouldn't pay for the Four. They aren't so desperate
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>>93894157
>when will this meme end?
The success of Wonder Woman has made sure that it will never die.
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gargoyles
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>>93893992
Were they tho? In the '90s there was that one TV movie called Generation X that was supposed to kick-off a show, it had Emma Frost, Jubilee and all
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>>93894108
>>93894110

He is very often drawn way taller than that. Come on, guys, reading a comic not the "height" section on Marvel wiki.
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>>93893551
You guys.

Remember how Avengers 4's title is this huge secret now?

This is why.

Avengers: Annihilation
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probably gargoyles
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>>93893551
>the mother of all MCU bombshells
>Fantastic Four
I thought that was Spider-Man?
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>>93894229
No,

Avengers: Secret Invasion
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>>93894270
Avengers: Kree Skrull War
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>>93894193
Disney was totally on board with buying back the Four. Ike Perlmutter told them not to.
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IT'S 2:30 WHERE'S THE NEWS REEEE
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>>93894304
You have no source for that.
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>>93894133
>But is Fantastic Four worth the amount of money Fox would want from Disney?
Considering how many characters are tied to the FF? Yeah, Disney could make a killing with Doctor Doom and so fucking much of Cosmic Marvel.
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>>93894307
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ZkJzODglvLxv?q=d23
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ZkJzODglvLxv?q=d23
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ZkJzODglvLxv?q=d23
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>>93894270
Close
But we all know there's only one way to escalate from Infinity War. You're one word off.

Avengers: Secret Wars

Disney DIDN'T get the movie rights to the FF, but there's nothing in the movie rights that say the 616 universe can't show up on screen!
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>>93894307
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ZkJzODglvLxv
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my Go!d you faggots don't seem to understand this, the Fantastic Four is the icing on the cake if they got the rights back. supporting characters, Locations, Villains, whole Marvel species, DOOM. This is just like getting Spider-Man he's not the goal but what he gets back is more important, Disney is pushing cosmic and they could really use things like the negative zone, Skrulls, and what ever else they get back space wise.

If this happens this could be major for Phase four onward.
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>>93894298

Avengers: Doom
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I'm betting it's not the FF, so I can be pleasently surprised if it is or just appreciate it for what it is.
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>>93894164
>Fox keeps all their franchises!
>Like Daredevil?
>F-Fantastic Four and Daredevil aren't c-comparable!

Uh huh.
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Its the Black order
Clear pics soon hopefully
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Well, it was a good hope while it lasted. The Black Order does look pretty cool. Though I do have a feeling they're working on something with Marvel. There's still a lot of evidence to suggest that they're working on getting the F4 back. I have a feeling we're going to hear more about it over the course of this year.
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>>93893551
its black order. for some reason the children of thanos
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>>93894329
>What's missing?
>The Gauntlet!

What about Supergiant?
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It's the black order.

Fucking disappointing.
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>>93894400
the announcer literally said "the black order, the children of thanos"
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Even if Marvisney got the rights to the FF back, and even if they DID play a Spiderman-in-Civil-War style role in Infinity War

Why would they show them off so soon? You'd think they'd hold that as close to the chest as they possibly could
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FANTASTIC BTFOur
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>>93894344
>Disney is pushing cosmic and they could really use things like the negative zone, Skrulls, and what ever else they get back space wise.
Disney's Marvel cosmic is no different from Disney's Star Wars. Adding new names and places won't change that.
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>>93894298
>Infinity War Post Credits scene is this, but with Bucky
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>>93894442
It kinda works.
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>>93894407
If you unironically believed it was the FF you're an idiot, senpai.
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>>93894432
nice
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>>93894432
ebony man looks dope
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>>93894432
Corvus, Proxima, , Thanos, Ebony Maw, and Supergiant?
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>>93894400
>You are a disappointment sister; out of all our siblings, I hated you least
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>>93894432
Meh.

They'll probably be pretty cool in the movie

Right now though, devoid of context, they look boring and generic as FUUUUUUCK.
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>>93894432
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>>93894475
the big guy is black dwarf
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Just to be100% clear here, all of this speculation is based on the fact that there's four stands in the hall with sheets over them and essentially nothing else?
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>>93894431
>Why would they show them off so soon? You'd think they'd hold that as close to the chest as they possibly could
Yeah, if they got the FF back they'd probably wait until AFTER Infinity War to tease them, since that's when they'll be hurting for properties.
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>>93894432
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>93894398
>There's still a lot of evidence to suggest that they're working on getting the F4 back.

both Fox and Marvel have denied this even in recent interviews, but okay keep dreaming
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>Hickman characters in the spotlight
>Bendis tears
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>>93894491
proxima looks super meh
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>>93894491
superwho?
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>>93894544
looks like bendis gamora
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>>93894522
>both Fox and Marvel have denied this even in recent interviews, but okay keep dreaming

b-but Armin said that FF would come back
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>>93894547
it's not like he gets any royalties from it
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>>93894554
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>>93894547
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>>93894561

Bendis is a writer

he doesn't design >>93894561
character costumes
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>>93894582
>they already come pre-quipped
It's like Hickman made them specifically for the movies.
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>no announcement as to who will play them

boo
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>>93894432
Who's the dude with the mic flipping everyone off?
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>the Black Order are Gamora and Nebula's siblings
This is a good retcon
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>>93894623
>he thinks this is actual dialogue

Go away casual.
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>>93893551
It's going to be Thanos' Black order cronies
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It's the black order lol what a good troll
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>>93894658
Welcome to the thread.
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>>93894491
>>93894670
who's the killer crock looking guy?
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>>93894624
Terry Notary is one of them. Corvus I think, or maybe I'm wrong and he's Black Dwarf. We've scene set pictures of Corvus, Proxima and Ebony but don't know the actors for the latter two.
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>>93894698
Vision has to be having a bad day there.
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>>93894686
nigger midget
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Were Hickman's OCs really needed in the movie?
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>>93894623
retard
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>>93894582
Why would some space alien know about nu metal? And D&D?
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>>93894698
Looks good, too bad about our boy Vision though.
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>>93894686
Below Average height African American
Also known as "Mini Slave"
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>>93894736
Would you prefer hordes of Chitauri again?
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>>93894225
Yeah, bigger isn't the same as taller.
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>>93893551
>>93894432

has anyone ever been BTFO so swiftly?
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>>93894786
How about just Thanos himself fucking everyone up, like in infinity Gauntlet?
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>>93894736
For there to be action scenes, yes. The alternate would be another army of faceless drones. A miniboss squad is much preferred, in my opinion.
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>>93894748
see
>>93894651
although I suppose with Rocket and Gamora referencing very specific earth stuff all the time nowadays this is still a legitimate question
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>>93894748
prepare yourself for no mercy
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>>93894786
>>93894824

Thanos showing up and the ensuing chaos should be enough, but I magine it's difficult to write a movie like that and they need to do the individual fights route.
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>>93894623

Anon, your retard is showing.
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>>93894825
the actual alternate is Thanos kicking everyone's ass by himself, like it should be
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>>93894736
Well they need someone the Avengers can fuck up before they get slapped around like wet noodles by Thanos for the cliffhanger
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Sound of disappointed MCU fans everywhere


I'll stick to marvel comics thanks
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>>93894913
So you want one action scene in a pair of comicbook action films?
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>>93893662
There doesn't have to be though. It wouldn't be the first time a cape adaptation cut characters.
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>>93894957
>marvel comics
you act like those are great
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>>93894501
Pretty embarrassing.
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>>93894963
he doesn't have to beat everyone all at once
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>>93894957
>sticking to Marvel comics
>sticking to Bendis, Waid, Rivera, Slott, etc.
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>>93894748
Illuminating Comics.
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>>93894736
It's not like they were going to use the Blood Brothers as Thanos henchmen.
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>>93894684
Yep, got here a tad late, glad to see my assumption based on the OP wasn't wrong though.
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>>93895008

It would be over too quick. I'm sure they'll have a great scene where he 1 v 23s every cunt but it'll be over in like 5 minutes, can't make a whole movie out of it without some sub-bosses.
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>>93895091
Pity.
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>>93895149
>1 v 23

It'll only be 22 don't get carried away.
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>>93894432
Hickman must be so happy.
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>>93894494

Although the guy introducing them called him "Cull Obsidian", so they may have changed his name for the film.
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In the red corner, The Mad Titan himself, THAAAAAANOS!

And in the blue corner
Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Hulk
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Spider-man
Falcon
Visions corpse
Scarlet Witch
Bucky Barnes
Ant-Man
The Wasp
Black Panther
Captain Carol
Star Lord
Drax
Gammora
Rocket
Groot
Doctor Strange
Mantis
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>>93895460
Cull Obsidian is another name for the Black Order
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>>93895460
Casual alert

The Black Order is The Cull Obsidian
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>>93894826
Gamora has been to Earth and spent time in the planet under the guise of Bambi Long.

Rocket made references to Earth pop culture during DnA's run and Peter even asks him how he knows stuff from Earth.
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>>93894475
Telepaths are OP in the MCU, too hard to work around her so I guess that's the reason she isn't included
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>>93895408
he's probably not getting much if anything in the way of money from it so he probably is indifferent.
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>>93895485
>OH MY GOD
>WHAT'S THIS
>IT'S LOKI WITH THE CHAIR
>INSTEAD OF TAGGING IN, HE HITS HIM IN THE FACE WITH THE CHAIR
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>>93895502
>>93895505
The announcer specifically referred to Black Dwarf as such, and Terry Notary is listed as playing "Cull Obsidian" on IMDB. It doesn't make sense, I know.
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>>93895502
>>93895505

Yes, thanks but I do know that.

As I just wrote, the guy overseeing the unveiling introduced the four of them as 'the Children of Thanos - Corvus Glaive, Proxima Midnight, Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian'.

Hence my comment that they may have changed his name for the film. Or the guy doing the unveiling could have fucked up.
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>>93895571
By gawd by GWAD he just killed him, somebody stop the damn match! Stop the damn match!
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>>93895630
>>93895628
I read him as them. woops

Cull Obsidian is a cooler name than Black Dwarf.
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Who is BTFO here, the people who were expecting something cool and neat like MCU Fantastic Four and were disappointed, or Marvel for unintentionally hyping people up and then revealing....the fucking Black Order.
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>>93895642
HEAVENS ABOVE! Is that Eternity coming down the ramp?
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>>93893551
Does this mean I have to read infinity?

Is Infinity even good?
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>>93895702
The people expecting FF. They wouldn't have statues of the Four standing around on a Disney convention specifically together with Thanos. The people thinking otherwise are just dumb.
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>>93895723
You know it is, King! That music can only mean one thing. Eternity has seen enough and is about to stomp a mud hole in Thanos' ass!
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>>93895783
no and no
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>>93895687

Yes it is. And studios like to avoid having two characters with similar sounding names - Black Panther, Black Dwarf - in the same film. They assume that audienceswill easily get confused.
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>>93895830

Black Widow was in a movie with Black Panther
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>>93895783
no and meh
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>>93895702
Marvel has made it completely obvious they don't have FF rights and Fiege blatantly said FF is not on the radar anytime soon. If you thought the FF was a possibility you're a dummy.
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>>93895702
If Marvel did get the FF back, I'd expect them to make a big announcement about it and not some little statue reveal in the corner of a convention center.
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>>93895871

But that's exactly my point. Black Widow and Black Panther are both too iconic to get away with changing. Black Dwarf on the other hand is a nobody.
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>>93895460
Cull Obsidian is another name for the whole team.
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>>93896190

If you'd taken the time to read the whole thread before replying you'd know that we've just been over this.
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>>93895978
Plus there is not enough time to put out a movie proper and the F4 would be relegated to cameos in other movies.
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>>93895783
>Does this mean I have to read infinity?
No.

>Is Infinity even good?
It's OK. Better than most Marvel events but not worth going out of your way to read unless you're already reading all of Hickvengers.
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>>93894133
>But is Fantastic Four worth the amount of money Fox would want from Disney

Yes. For starters, Sue is more memorable and marketable than the women Marvel currently has access to. And with DC knocking it out of the park with WW, they have enough iconic women to corner the super heroine market. Marvel needs more of their iconic women, and most of them are tied up at Fox between FF and X-Men.

The Thing is one of Marvel's more beloved longstanding characters, and fuckers would line up at the theatres if you promised them Hulk vs The Thing on the big screen.

The rights would also give them access to Doom, who in his own right would make a fantastic franchise wide villain the way Thanos does now once Thanos is out of the picture.

The rights give them access to the entire Skrull empire, as well as Galactus and Silver Surfer (As well as the other heralds), and many other cosmic threats that would help solidify an entire cosmic marvel line of films using the GotG as a familiar jumping off point.

Plus if they buy the FF and turn it into a mega hit, Fox may be open to working out a collaboration deal with the X-Men rights, which has the benefit of Marvel no longer shitting on them on the comics front and no longer pretending they don't exist.
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I'm still convinced that Hickman was ordered to invent the Black Order because Marvel wanted to create some Thanos henchmen that the movies could use.

They were pretty stupid characters but Disney now sends checks to buy off the creators of characters who are used in the movies, so he'll probably get some money out of it.
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>>93896700
Marvel doesn't pay good royalties
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>>93896734
No, they don't, but Roy Thomas has said that he got some money from Disney for characters he co-created (Vision, Ultron, Iron Fist).

Basically they're paying hush money: they send creators a check (which is peanuts to them but a lot of money to a comic book writer) so they won't give interviews about how Disney fucked them over.
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>>93894229
Fuck you. Seriously fuck you, cosmic marvel is dead thanks to syngergy i hope the MCU never touches once again any good cosmic story.
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Yes, I really liked that scene in gotg 2 where Gamora entered one of the stones and saw Adam and space duke fighting their evil selves, then she learned that a he was trapped there and had to cut her eyes out. Can't believe they put that in a movie!
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>>93897961
I miss Phyla
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>>93895630
>mfw they change it because black dwarf migth ofend someone
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>>93898516
probably only because Cull Obsidian sounds a fuckload better than Black Dwarf

probably also why Superwho? isn't there.
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>>93898613
i dont know but for real i totaly eraser her from y memory, is not like i was raeding infinity carefully doe
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>>93894623
>>93894748
I always laugh when people fall for Illuminated edits.
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>>93894623
Just dropping by to call you a retard too.
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>>93895562
>>93895408
Starlin received more money from KGBeast "appearing" in TDKR than he has for any of the marvel characters. That may change with Thanos being so heavily featured, but still. Hickman will make more off his creator owned titles the month Infinity War comes out, I guarantee it.
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>>93899833
Len Wein also received more for Lucius Fox in NolanBat than he has ever received for Wolverine.
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>>93900053
why?
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>>93894504

This

If Marvel got the rights to FF back they would never tease it at D23. Maybe Comic Con

But the real tease wouldn't even be the Team. The real teaser would be a statue of Doctor Doom.
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>>93900166
because DC pays much better royalties than Marvel
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>>93900166
Marvel is cheap as fuck. Notice they're using supporting characters developed by a writer who signed a contract in the last decade (Hickman's Black Order) as opposed to the classic supporting characters for Infinity (Mephisto, Death, Eros, Adam Warlock). I'm almost certain this is to avoid paying as many royalties as possible. Hickman will get character royalties but no story royalties or something like that. (Costume changes probably contribute as well. We didn't base it on your "art"? You don't get money)
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