What's the most Important animated series of the 2010s?

Adventure Time.

>>93856719
Rick and Morty

It's Steven Universe. I don't even watch it and I know that. So many niggas watching that shit.

>>93856741
>cuckventure time
>important
It will be a footnote at best.

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Loud House

Valkyrie Drive

>>93856741
Fpbp

>>93856719
It's not Korra, that much can be said at least. There's maybe an argument for SU despite the quality being so over the place, but Korra was a mess of a story from start to finish that is only remembered at all because it's holding on to the coat tails of an actually good show and because of an out of nowhere final shot.

>>93856719
Teen titans go

>>93856719
Western stuff only? Castlevania.

>>93856741
Adventure time inspired all the other similar random shows.

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Little Witch Academia

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Move over.

>>93856719
God, the designs on this show are so shitty.

what's with faggots naming weeb shit in /co/?

>>93856719
Mike Tyson Mysteries is basically the only good thing on TV right now.

>>93856898
Good taste.

>>93856719
I would dare to say Phineas and Ferb simply because it showed Disney that animation makes money and got them out of their Lizzie McGuire-clone phase.

>>93856971
this.

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>>93856898
Some of you guys are alright. Don't come to Wallachia tomorrow.

>>93856999
Hey, Vlad, how crispy do you want your waifu and also the only adult-targeted animated series that isn't a bland comedy in EIGHTEEN GODDAMNED YEARS.

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>>93857013

>>93856719
G4 Pony.

It first aired in '10 and has radiated a much greater degree of influence over society then any of the other 2010's cartoons.

>By the way there's a movie coming up.

OP said important guys. I'd say from an animation standpoint Adventure Time because of how it's influenced nearly everyone on the market now and in terms of a cultural phenomenon it's MLP.

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>>93857114
>we should be grateful for this

>>93856741
This. Hell it even inspired the Rio Olympics mascots.

>>93857114
>Adventure Time with lol so random humor
>Simplistic animation and non existent story
I really don't want to agree with you. I REALLY don't want to think what you're saying is true.

>>93856861
Is this real?
Sauce ?

>>93857206
It is though, look at cartoons that have aired since.

It's either AT or MLP, there's no other answer to OP.

>>93857114
I find both to be meh and to suffer very hard from seasonal rot, but they are influential as fuck and I can't deny it.

I'll press for MLP rising the bar and AT for the inspiration when it comes to the 2010s.

>>93857244
L is for Love

>>93856741
I don't like AT anymore, but this it kickstarted this whole era and dug animation out of the whole of the 00s

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>>93856898
Where Do You Think We Are?

The Amazing World of Gumball

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>>93856898

>>93857284
On /co/ right? Good think Castlevania is a western cartoon and not an anime.

Either My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic or RWBY. The former for single handidly demolishing the very concept of demographic barriers; and proving once and for all that there is no such thing as a work that is "too girly for boys and older kids", just works which aren't good enough for a discerning audence; the latter for single handidly proving that it is absolutely possible for a work of non-comedic serialised independent animation to not only be of outstanding quality but massively successful as well; without any need for big money, big studio interference or backing, or even big name, proffessional vouce actors; the idea that anybody can make great stuff today if they just try.

>>93856999
Fun fact:
In German, Wallachia is synonymous with "far away from civilisation".

>>93856719
Influential so far?
AT.
Meaningful?
SU, hands down. It does so much ground breaking and teaching, I've seen anons here report it helped them with their relationships. You don't have to like it, but it is the only show this decade that really makes the audience think and question things other than the borders of human indecency.

>>93857484
>AT

That's not how you spell MLP.

>>93856741
agreed

>>93857273
More like it dug it into a deeper hole of "shitty designs = artistic".

It was only until the teachings of Star vs, Gravity Falls, and The Loud House that the 2010s even began to see a glimmer of hope.

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The only right answers are Adventure Time and MLP, it doesn't matter if you like the cartoons or not, they were undeniably the most influential and, thus, important cartoons.
The reasons why have already been explained in the thread as well.

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>>93856741
No, no- EXCUSE ME, Jeb!

>Adventure Time
>aired at a time when it's biggest competition on the channel was Regular Show
>never managed to beat Spongebob or even FOP ratings wise
>theatrical movie that was canned because the show fell out of importance so abruptly
>ushered in an era of ugly art, lolsorandom quirky humor, and leepest dore that ultimately ends up being a cocktease

>The Loud House
>entered into an era of harsh competition with Steven Universe, Spongebob, Star vs, Gumball
>skullfucked all of them in the ratings
>already has a theatrical movie on the way
>has been talked about in the news
>returned us to the era of calm, slice of life cartoons with well timed humor and morals

>>93857579
What cartoons did they influence exactly, and how?

>>93857602
READ. THE. THREAD! thanks

>>93857615
I did. I see a bunch of (possibly samefagged) posts saying Adventure Time influenced this and that, without actually saying what they influenced other than some shitty looking Olympic mascots in Hueland.

>>93856719
Loud House/ Gumball

>>93857589
You just want to fuck them girls isall

>>93857663
>You just want to fuck them palette swapped princesses is all

>>93857579
Also this anon has it right. Horse is extremely important. I didn't even think to mention horse due to how monolithic it had become. It's almost its own entity.

So yeah, horse wins unless you're being retarded.

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>>93856719
Most of the thread seem to get it. OP said "important" so it's Adventure Time.

It started the fire.

>>93858117
Except horse is the most important. AT is a close second because it started the renascence of older teens and adults thinking some cartoons are 'cool' because stoners popularised it.
Horse revolutionised the way the industry markets, the way it imagines demographics and the way it develops products for a franchise, just to name a few.
The ripple from horse will be felt decades from now. There is a clear market precedent now in the west. Autism bucks have finally been proven to be profitable on a level not yet seen on this scale in the west.

>>93856741
/thread

>>93857589
Adventure Time is pretty well known outside of the usual /co/ M.O. Loud House is only known by kids and man children who fap to rule34 all day

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>being popular on the internet means you were the most influential cartoon of that era
I guess Invader Zim was the most influential cartoon of the 2000s rather than just being Spongebob and FOP's bitch like it was in reality.

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>yfw you realize Stevonnie's character arc is Sugar telling snowflakes to stop being triggered by everything

>>93858365
Loud House is pretty well known outside the usual /co/ M.O. Adventure Time is only known by stoners and man children who fap to rule69 all day

>>93856719
Horse show easily. 7 seasons already, movies coming out regularly and it has fuckhuge fanbase. I don't see anything come close to that.

>>93858458
I guess Barney was the most influential show of the 90s too because lots of preschoolers watched it

>>93857589
All I will say is I've never seen an episode of the loud house that was great. All of its episodes kind of meld together in your mind and you forget most of the plots a day after watching them. Anytime it feels like it needs a boost in ratings, they just add another gay character.

>>93856741
>>93858149
>>93858117

Number of (you)s does not equate to correctness.
>>93857579
>>93858458

This is correct.
>>93858149
No.The honest and correct answer here is MLP.

>Shows up and caused the brony fiasco and the strongest /co/ fandom in years. Internet overflow of small horse show happens. This is already stuff that makes it a bigger deal then adventure time which did not be a influence society to nearly the same degree as pon.

If the above point did not exist then there would be a much closer debate.

>Both are responsible for creating trends. Their animations are used as the inspiration for other styles, they both changed the boy/girl show market resepectivly. Horse took flash leaps forwards and Adventure solidified the style of....whatever it is you call that washy washy style. Pony made girl adventure more popular amount the children and At is the grandad of the lolsorandomnhumer.

Pony is the correct answer in this thread.

>>93858472
Well it was, people still reference to it today. The fact you do is a good example, the fact it still runs is a good example.

Though if we're trying to figure the 1st place for 90s it probably belongs to South Park.

>>93856992
>Lizzie McGuire-clone phase

What?

>>93856719
>tfw the 2010s are 3/4 of the way over

None of the cartoons of the 2010s were important.

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>>93857291
I wanted to say this, but then I realised AT is unfortunately way more influential. I strongly believe Gumball is one of the best animated series ever

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>>93856719
>Garnet supports pre-teens to have sex.

>>93857261
of course only lesbian if for love goddamit

>>93858404
So much this. All the critics don't realize that SU is actually designed to teach SJWs to get their shit together.

>>93856719
Camp Camp

>>93856892
Korra is mostly unimportant because no one is willing anymore to spit that kind of resources into an animated show, instead we've ended up with dozens of adventure time clones and shows based on the old formula of loud and random

Also Steven Universe being the most important is a joke, it's pulling less viewers now than Korra ever did, the animation is consistently a joke, and the show has more filler than a thanksgiving turkey

Korra never became that influential because no one dared attempting spitting a million per episode into a show where every episode drives the plot forward

Steven Universe meanwhile is a mess artistically and story wise, with viewership that has never reached the heights of other big shows this decade

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>>93858414
So the people who are outside of /co/ are... /trash/, the general in /trash/, some Tumblrinas who only bandwagoned because of Luna and Clyde's dads, and autistic children on DeviantART and YouTube drawing this shit.

Really makes ya think, Loudfag...

>>93859025
Spongebob is NOT a pedofile

How delusional must one be to think that SU is more relevant than AT or the horse show?

>>93858117
I agree that Adventure Time is the most important, but that is nothing positive. There are so many shows that copied its style and format, and it has left the present cartoon industry stale and derivative

The last great western cartoon was Legend of Korra, since then the industry has been stuck in a pool of noodle armed, 8 bit music harping, comedy filler shows, that pretend to be deep because they got a melodramatic song playing by a band popular with millennial douche bags as something marginally sad happens on screen

Cartoons are dead, and we killed it

Bunsen is a beast

>>93856719
MLP

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>>93856741
As much as I hate the show, I do agree. It's important, not in a good way since it single-handedly made animation a worse medium, but it is a huge turning point.

>>93856719
I would complain that you didn't specify if you meant influential to culture or to the industry, but that wouldn't have made this thread any less of a dickwaving clusterfuck, and the latter question is pointless anyway since television is mostly irrelevant to influencing kids anymore

>MLP
I want a little more details. What shows were affected by MLP:FiM? I've never watched AT or the shows influenced by it, but I recognize the shared art style of spaghetti on drugs.

>>93858146
+1

lots of people have put down '/thread's in this little discussion but this honestly deserves it because it is very true.

>>93856869
This nigga knows

>>93858608
Not that anon, but I'm pretty sure he means shit like Even Stevens, Phil of the Future, That's So Raven, Suite Life of Zack and Cody, their countless spin-offs, etc. Ever since Lizzie-McGuire, Disney has had a BAD habit of prioritizing gimmick sitcoms over their animated shows, and has only gotten worse with recent years. It went from cartoons sharing space with the sitcoms to eventually getting shuffled over to their other channels exclusively. They're not all bad of course, but their over-saturation hurts the channel more than anything.

>>93859233
I doubt Star vs. would've of been greenlit if MLP wasn't successful.

>>93859233
most girl shows are trying to be MLP with that whole "we remember the 80's tropes but we are 20% cooler XD" attitude

>>93858404
>Stevonnie's character arc is Sugar telling snowflakes to stop being triggered by everything
Isn't there an episode about Stevonnie getting triggered when xe saw Kevin?

>>93859143
>The last great western cartoon was Legend of Korra

Then you clearly don't watch enough Western Animation in general.

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>>93859212
That single hand was rubber-hose animated btw

>>93856719
anime wins not because there is any quality to anime but because the west didnt even try

>>93856719
MLP

>>93857284
oh anon, those arent the real rules to /co/
real rules are
1
dont trigger me
2
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>93857652
not him but i like sticking my thumb up my anus and doing a twister

>>93861013
mlp is fucking trash for little girls, overblown by man-children like you

>>93860958
I try to, I had hopes for the last season of Samurai Jack, but after three absolutely perfect episodes it completely nosedived afterwards
Gravity Falls was legitimately funny and beautiful, but completely failed to capitalize on the mysteries and villains it had and fumbled several landings that were pivotal to the show, ending after two seasons, with the first being definitely stronger than he second
Adventure Time was and remains absolutely not my taste, probably why I don't like too much contemporary animation, in fact anything which uses a soundtrack with songs that sound like video game tracks that have not been made for the last three decades I will most likely immediately drop

Steven Universe is an abomination
All the 20th Century Fox and 21st Century fox animated shows have turned into unfunny corpses that the network is dragging with it as long as people still tune in to watch the beating of the dead horse, even Archer which used to be good is clear that it has lost steam after the lost two seasons

>>93861151
Also Rick and Morty is reddit the show and can go screw itself with a plumbus

Bob's burgers

>>93861097
How many other shows got a theatrical movie release this decade?

>>93857589
>Loud house
>good
It's okay at best, and painfully boring at worst. The only thing remotely interesting about is trying to come up with theories about which sister wants Lincoln's dick the most.

>>93861151
>>93861182
Did you try MLP?

What about Over the Garden Wall?

>>93861255
I watched a few episodes of MLP while babysitting my cousin, now it could be because we were watching the one where they are humanoid, but I felt like the stereotypical adult who watches cartoon garbage as the kid is enthralled by the bright colors and overly enthusiastic characters

Over the Garden Wall ended a month before the Legend of Korra, it was an enjoyable mini series

>>93861362
>Watching the Doug version
They are no where near the quality of the show.

>>93859143
Voltron, SU, Star Wars Rebels, Trollhunters, Castlevania, S5 of Samurai Jack, even Beware the Batman had more going for them than Korra did, between better writing, tone, action scenes, etc. The poor decisions made in the first two seasons and the mediocre last ruined any goodwill Korra had.

>>93861362
Humanoid version is terrible. The earlier episodes are sweet and nice.

>>93861461
I guess the reason I never started watching MLP was twofold, first the fanbase is one of the worst, of course this is true for most shows, but there's a good reason why the pony fuckers needed their own containment board, they are up there with the Steven Universe fags

Secondly is I'm absolutely against anything that looks like it got animated in flash, for example I had to laugh when I saw that terrible Forces of Destiny show that Disney is now producing to market their strong womyn

>>93861526
>letting the fanbase affect your enjoyment of a show
Nigga that is stupid as fuck.
As for the flash animation it's decent, even good compared to most Flash shows. The upside is that the animation improves because they can reuse assets they made in the previous seasons and make new ones for the new seasons.

>>93861471
Star Wars Rebels is absolutely terrible, the only watchable parts is the season intro episodes and the finales, it is an atrocity that it replaced the Clone Wars
Steven Universe is the faggiest shit ever and every character is an awful human being
Voltron has great animation but it can never escape the fact that it's generic sci fi based on a franchise made to sell toys
Last season of Samurai Jack was good for three epsiodes then nose dived into trash territory
Castlevania is the first show to show potential in years, just too bad it was only four episodes long for its first season
Beware the Batman again is another show that ended before Legend of Korra, and it never passed the point of being watchable, I hate the animation too

None of them have reached the same quality in animation, music, and plot as Legend of Korra, I miss having a cartoon show that actually has me excited
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnxKm3D5fVI

>>93857434
you mean Wallachai, idiot

>>93861565
I get that the fanbase excuse it poor, but it doesn't stop it from being one of the reasons I never got into it, anyone saying it makes the show terrible is of course wrong, but it really does not push me towards wanting to watch it

Also I have never watched any footage of the show that doesn't reach above passable

>>93856741
I'll agree with this.

Hell I'll even say AT's style wasn't even bad for the show itself, adventure times style fit the show they were making, but because Animation is one of those things outside the 00's, where every show had to have the exact same animation style for no real reason, everyone else took inspiration from AT's style and filled us with shit animations for a decade.

>>93857589
Loud House sucks and this is coming from someone whose fetish is sibling /ss/. It still remains to be seen if it has an impact or influence on cartoons as a whole but right now lol no.

>>93861693
What's wrong with the fanbase?

>>93862014
Enough to become one of the biggest jokes on the internet

>>93862047
Why? What makes them different than any other fanbase?

>>93862089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gtw59wROW8

>>93861654
>Voltron has great animation but it can never escape the fact that it's generic sci fi based on a franchise made to sell toys

And Korra was a sequel to an established franchise to try and make more money from the established fan base.

It's not where something comes from, but the execution. Would you complaint that something like B:TAS was limited because it was generic capeshit made to sell toys?

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>>93856719
Madoka Magica

>>93857284
That meme was stale ten years ago.

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>>93859090
No, because he's a kid.

>>93859143
No.
>>93861471
They had nothing.
>>93861654
Voltron does not have great animation, it's animation is lack lustered at best.
Korra is garbage, nuff said.

If you want good animation go watch this, you will thank me later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afzmwAKUppU

>>93857434
Also Gresit means "wrong" in Wallachian (aka Romanian).

>>93856999
But I'm already in Wallachia right now,,,

>>93856719
i dunno the ones with the dykes i geuss

>>93858117
It started the fire, and then got dumped by it.

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>>93856741

>>93862301
So which one?

>>93862132
Where it comes from has a lot to do with the potential a show has, Voltron has an 80s show with giant robots at a time where everyone was making giant robot shows because of Gundam and Transformers, meanwhile Legend of Korra had Avatar the Last Airbender

Batman the Animated Series was a cash cow for Warner, but the show had several decades of Batman comics to draw from

Also Legend of Korra still has a better execution, Voltron has Zarkon, your run of the mill evil alien emperor, Korra has Amon who she show never specifies if he actually believed in the equalist cause or not, a cause many in the fanbase still discuss today whether was justified or not

>>93859372
Yeah, that was the point. At the end she learns to ignore him.

>>93862157
nice meem /b/rother

>>93856719
>>93856741
I know you're being ironic but
please someone just fucking kill me in my sleep
please

>>93857484
>Helps anons with relationships
Lemme guess, do these anons happen to be autistic?

>>93862335
Who cares, thats all they need to be important nowadays right?

>>93862367
AT may be godawful iredeemable shit, but you cannot ignore the effect its had on the industry.

>>93862218
>If you want good animation go watch this

It had a 45 million dollar budget adjusted for inflation, and you're comparing a movie to a television series

And that isn't even the best Disney has produced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxX-SPD6bW4

Not to mention we're discussing animation in the current decade and you bring up a movie from three decades ago

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>>93856821

>>93861693
Animation got better as the show progressed. This is probably the best-looking scene (1:00 to 2:40 mainly).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoowtoEle14

>>93857589
Uhhh....

>The Loud House
>entered into an era of harsh competition with Blue Jacket Lupin III, Yowamushi Peddle and Kemono Friends.
> got skullfucked all of them.
>already has a theatrical movie on the way, which nobody asked for.
>has been bashed and ripped about in the news
>returned us to the era of awful, 1D characters, predicable plots, abismal timing and posing and unneeded morals.
>Got so bad that Steven Fucking Spielberg came back to cartoons and said "Enough with this trash I'm bringing back Animaniacs to fix the industry myself".

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>>93857561

AT. It looks to be its own show. It's not trying to push some progressive twist on the 80's or force representation. You like a character for the character. Not just because they're gay or petite.

SU is MLP for black people. Too many 25 and 30 year olds indulged in a kids show for bs reasons. Every theme has been touched upon in other titles, SU fans just have a snobby excuse to not watch them.

>>93858548
If it wasn't for South Park, we wouldn't have known that Simpsons did it first.

>>93862427
TV animation you say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg

And in today's market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RODNLawkA7s

>>93857284
A website for weebs.

what do you dumb fucks think "important" means? the one you like the most?

>>93858548
No thats Tiny Toons.

>>93857589
>>The Loud House
>>entered into an era of harsh competition with Steven Universe, Spongebob, Star vs, Gumball
No it didn't, Spongebob died twice and had two movies before the show even came out.

>>93858547
I think you're overvaluing /co/ in this argument, friend. While you're not wrong, popularity on the internet doesn't make a show "important" on its own. MLP likely wouldn't even exist without Adventure Time. I will admit, however, that it deserves a spot on the list. If I had to rank them by influence, it'd be

1. Adventure Time because of everything already stated in this thread

2. Either Rick & Morty or Bojack Horseman (probly bojack because it's also a Netflix show and is generally more innovative, but I think Rick & Morty came first, not to mention its much more popular thanks to /leddit/ etc) because of how they flipped storytelling in adult animation on its head and integrated emotional complexity and seriousness that until then had only been seen in fringe shows like Moral Orel. Basically, these shows are responsible for the rise of the "adult animated dramedy."

3. MLP, for the reasons you list as well as for how it broke the mold and is still breaking the mold in conjunction with its unorthodox and controversial fanbase. As a show, it's honestly not that innovative besides proving that a licensed "girly" show can be a full product with artistic integrity and mainstream appeal--which is nice, but doesnt really involve the show itself, if you get my meaning; "being good" isn't exactly *important* out of context, whereas both (all three) of the above examples did something that had never been done before and inspired countless undeniable trends and standards, in ADDITION to being "good" shows.

I think it's only right to mention Gumball, too--it's still too early to track its influence, but everything points to it being a trendsetter. That's more or less conjecture, though.

>>93856719
Horse Show for leading to the election of the most recent president probably.

>>93862480
>And in today's market.
I was sure it was only a matter of time before anime made an appearance in this thread

>>93856741

Came here to post this


Whatever you feelings on it, without it's popularity you wouldn't have 80% of the shows out there now

You sure wouldn't have Scissor Rocks

>>93862561
/mlpol/ was long after Trump got elected.

>>93862367
You would have to be underage to not see how AT is the most important cartoon in the last decade, it was fucking huge and everyone loved the shit out it.

>>93862587
I absolutely loathe Adventure Time, but there's no contest to who has had most importance and influence for the last decade

Too bad it's also one of the reasons why present animation sucks ass

>>93862570
Yeah if you ignored the first several anime posts.

>>93862664
Yea, Madoka Magica.

>>93856719

Stevonnie and Korrasami didn't happen in 2010 though

>>93862692
Madoka only had serious influence on two particular subgenre of eastern animation, one that was already on its way out.

>>93862710
David (Shaft) And Goliath (Toei) will never be out of style.

>>93856741
FPBP

>>93862710
I'm willing to bet that there were more animes under said subgenres after Madoka than cartoons that came out after Adventure Time.

>>93862839
Most anime studios are scared to combat Toei in the Magic Girl market, what Shaft did is a miracle.

>>93862425
>>93862663
ITT normalfags who don't understand suicidal tendencies

>>93861097
>judges others as manchildren just for watching a show, while posting in a thread dedicated solely to talk about "kids" cartoons.
oh the irony!

>>93856741
Sad but true. Its important in the same way Hitler and Stalin were the most important men of their time.

>>93857589
The Loud House saved Western civilization.

>>93863286
No, those were Walt Disney and Tex Avery.

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>>93862646
But Alefantis and friends are tiny horse fans

>>93863328
No, it only made things worse as...

>entered into an era of harsh competition with Blue Jacket Lupin III, Yowamushi Peddle and Kemono Friends.
>got skullfucked all of them.
>already has a theatrical movie on the way, which nobody asked for.
>has been bashed and ripped about in the news
>returned us to the era of awful, 1D characters, predicable plots, abismal timing and posing and unneeded morals.
>Got so bad that Steven Fucking Spielberg came back to cartoons and said "Enough with this trash I'm bringing back Animaniacs to fix the industry myself".

This whole thread is depressingly filled with bad and tumblr tastes.

>>93862558
MLP was in production long before Adventure Time aired

>>93863357
Animaniacs isn't even that good though. Its on the same level as SU and TLH, being 7/10 shows on average.

>>93863396
It isn't about taste, the question is which cartoon has had the most importance, which of course is going to be shit for the masses like Rick and Morty

>>93862646
The board merger was recent. The presence of bronies on the board goes back years.

>>93863642
Animaniacs puts SU and TLH to shame however.

my hairy asshole.

>>93856741
Important for starting a wave of cancerous shows maybe

>>93856741
Adventure Time 'feels' like a 2000s-era show, even thought most of it has aired post-2010.

>>93856751
>>93856757
One of these two. Steven Universe is the deliverance of east/west synthesis, while Rick&Morty is the latest genre-advancing Adult Comedy Cartoon, after people had generally assumed the genre had nowhere left to go.

>>93864477
Name a show that was influenced by SU or Rick and Morty.

>>93864477
>Steven Universe is the deliverance of east/west synthesis
You serious?

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>>93857589
>loudfags are this retarded
im glad their in /trash/

>>93864549
They won't be here yet m8.

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>>93864477
>Adventure Time 'feels' like a 2000s-era show, even thought most of it has aired post-2010.

>>93862338
>Korra has Amon who she show never specifies if he actually believed in the equalist cause or not, a cause many in the fanbase still discuss today whether was justified or not

He was a poorly written character with confusing motivations and contradictory methods that the show never did anything with. Not to mention his master plan of debending people manually is retarded. How is he going to account for all of the city? The world? What if new benders are born anyway?

The rest are even worse. Okay, at least Zaheer and his crew are cool. But then season three was an outlier for the mediocrity that is Korra.

Over The Garden Wall

>>93856719
Definitely Steven Universe

>>93864933
How does a communist stop people from trading in a black market? How does a national socialist get every jew? How does the anarchist stop people from forming an authority when you have no authority to stop them with? You're asking for complete rationality from a bunch of revolutionaries

Also Amon's initial goal was to seize control of Republic City and overthrow the bender controlled government, something he did succeed with. Afterwards the goal was to maintain control of Republic City and spread the anti bending revolution

And there was no confusing motivation, what happens is we learn from his backstory that he might be doing it to rule Republic City like his father wanted, but as stated by Tarrlok he actually believes Amon is being sincere and believes everything will be better if bending is removed and people are made more equal
The audience is left to decide if Amon's stated goals are true like Tarrlok believes, or that Amon is just in it for power like his father and his brother

>>93856741
THIS

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madoka aired in 2011, sorry fags

>>93856939
I want to fuck that cat.

>>93865370
>2010s
Implying the decade.

>>93865457
what does it imply if not that?

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>>93857589
This!

Being the cartoon of the decade is all about exposure. Being "big" on Cartoon Network is like being called the tallest midget. Loud House has reached more homes, is already popular internationally, and is already getting a movie in theaters.

It's not even a contest. Loud House has been the most popular cartoon on cable television for two years now. If you want to talk broadcast TV cartoons like Simpsons and Family Guy, that's a different story, but they have been around for years and its hard to say they are important to this decade. Stuff like Adventure Time or Gumball doesn't even get the ratings to hold Loud House's jockstrap. I dare say, TLH is the only reason cartoon cable networks haven't gone completely under.

>>93866047
>Being the cartoon of the decade is all about exposure
Its not about popularity, its about how a show changes the medium for the better for years to come. I don't see Loud House doing that.

>>93864565
Yes. It's narrative structure is a synthesis of anime spiraling narratives and western serialized circular narratives (return to status quo). It's character designs are a synthesis of anime maximalism and western basic geometric shape designs. It mixes western slapstick with anime drama and action.

>>93856741
This. But it's not a positive.

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>>93856719
>out of all the shit in Korra, people overwhelmingly talk about the fucking relationship that was on screen for barely a few minutes in the literal last scene
It's like Bryke did this just to distract from all the bullshit writing and plotholes

>>93856741
fpbp

>>93866047
>Loud House Fags always bringing up ratings

its funny that this is literally all you guys talk about, its like the only positive thing to say about TLH is that its popular

>>93866160
its only a negative if you dislike Adventure Time and while its not perfect, it was a vast improvement over literally everything that was made within like 3 years of it

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>>93867919
>being this butthurt because no one watches your show
Sad!
>>93866129
Yes, and Adventure Time/MLP certainly didn't do that.

Do you seriously watch shows like Gravity Falls and think "Wow, this would have never been possible with Adventure Time!" ?

>>93868667
Do you seriously watch shows like Gravity Falls and think "Wow, this would have never been possible with Adventure Time!" ?
Yeah. Maybe one show at a time had an overarching plot before Adventure Time, now almost every popular cartoon now (star vs, SU, Gravity Falls just to name a few) have one. Also, a good cartoon with a female MC were almost non existant before MLP, and now no one blinks an eye if thats the case with a cartoon now.

>>93868857
shit I forgot the meme arrow
>Do you seriously watch shows like Gravity Falls and think "Wow, this would have never been possible with Adventure Time!" ?
Yeah. Maybe one show at a time had an overarching plot before Adventure Time, now almost every popular cartoon now (star vs, SU, Gravity Falls just to name a few) have one. Also, a good cartoon with a female MC were almost non existant before MLP, and now no one blinks an eye if thats the case with a cartoon now.

>>93868857
>>93868907
>lore heavy shows didn't exist before Adventure Time
>female MCs didnt exist before MLP
Wow, and I thought millennials were bad.

>>93869376
I said they were much more uncommon, not nonexistent.

>>93869491
They are about as common then as they are now.

>>93859372
The entire point of that episode was "lmao just look away from the screen nigga"

>>93868667
This is a short list of shows that wouldn't exist or at the very least would be drastically different without Adventure Time

Over the Garden Wall, OK K.O., Gravity Falls, Star vs., We Bare Bears, Mighty Magiswords, Steven Universe, and many more

And any show influenced by these shows is also in some part influenced by Adventure Time

>>93869512
>Before adventure time
teen titans
avatar TLAB
>post adventure time
Symbionic Titan
Star vs.
SU
Gravity Falls
Over the Garden Wall

>>93869578
>Gravity Falls and Star vs
No, you fucking brainlet.

>the rest of those
They're shit.

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>>93856719
SU could have been the greatest cartoon

>>93869730
Every show i listed it was either directly or indirectly influenced by Adventure Time you don't have to like to show but don't don't pretend like it's not a incredibly important show to the 2010s

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>>93869628
>>93869890
Daron Nefcy was working on the concept of Star long before Adventure Shit even existed.

Gravity Falls is partly based off Hirsch's life, and again, a concept and story that goes back years before the cartoon saw the light of day. Actually, there was an interview where Hirsch said cartoons like Adventure Time are what he was trying to avoid, 11 minute shows where the lore goes nowhere.

Just because Adventure Time was the first "hit" cartoon of 2010 doesn't mean cartoons that were already in development around the same time it premiered were influenced by it.

Off yourself.

>>93869767
Just because they show has great concept art does not mean it will be a great show. Execution over concept any day of the week and Steven universe's execution is subpar at best.

>>93869920
In your attempt to sound like a smug faget you come off sounding like an idiot with this non argument.

Just because the concept of a show was thought of years ago doesn't mean it can't be influenced by its contemporaries.

Or would you seriously argue otherwise?

>>93856719
>Korra

hahaha yeah fuck off

>>93857589
hol up jeb

>biggest competition was regular show
Regular show was great during its first few seasons. Comparing it to nu-sponge and fop is a joke
>It lost interest
as does every show ever, that doesn't mean it wasn't influential
>invented lolrandom humor
this has been in existence since at least invader zim
>it has ugly art
> now the loud house on the other hand
This is the part where I laugh at you

>>93856992
It didn't really though. I mean, have you even seen what they air on their main channel. It's just as much generic live action shit as usual. I'd even argue that there's more

>>93870079
>make invalid points
>get disproven
>YEA WELL YOU'RE A DUMB DUMB HEAD
Back to Adventure Time general you go. Oh wait there isn't one because the show is dead and forgotten.

>>93857142
you're confusing influential with good again anon

>>93870271
Loud House characters look like actual humans though, not AT's burn victims.

>>93857284
CHINESE IMAGE FORUM

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>>93857484
>anons here report it helped them with their relationships
>SU
>Relationships

You don't sincerely believe that do you

>>93870573
What valid points??


Your argument is that because of these shows were thought of years ago it's impossible for them to be influenced by anything that's came out since then.


That's a garbage argument if I've ever heard one.

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>>93870602
>Loud House characters look like actual humans

Are you being serious?

They look about as human as the characters in the AT which is to say not very human at all.

Both shows art styles abstract the human form a lot but not enough so that you don't recognize when someone is meant to be a human or humanoid

>>93856861
Let me guess...(((the media))) give us lesson about (((tolerance)))?
Not again!

>>93856751
probably ending this or next season

>>93857396
RWBY is nothing more than the dying breath of a hack animator that a company tries to keep alive
it's "quality" is godawful & calling it "independent" is retarded when RT is as big a studio as they are

>>93857484
>>93857561
SU teaches how to be a retarded faggot & a weeb
congrats you're regressing the world with shit designs, stupid songs, & ass-backwards plots

Star teaches how to be an annoying cuck

>>93858881
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit taste

>>93861471
SU has worse writing than Korra
at least Korra has antagonists. SU doesn't even do that anymore

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>>93856741
>tfw japan is entering the party 7 years late

>>93862425
yeah, it lowered the bar to where it is now
great effect

>>93863642
at least animaniacs has decent looking characters

>>93864477
>Steven Universe is the deliverance of east/west synthesis
so weebshit made for the immature weebs who can stomach this? good to know its target audience
>Rick&Morty is the latest genre-advancing Adult Comedy Cartoon, after people had generally assumed the genre had nowhere left to go.
I had no idea that making annoying, unfunny characters take the screen and scream is the next evolution. no wonder I gave up on adult animation when the simpsons got bad

>>93856719

Phineas and Ferb; it had a ton of people working on it that have spread out through the industry and altered how Disney looked at animated shows.

It had an audience, of what, twice what Adventure Time pulled at its height and ten times MLP?

>>93871002
why?

>>93869628
shows with good female main characters b4 AT? lemme think
>Ben 10
>Kim Possible
>My Life as a Teenage Robot
>Justice League & JLU
>Darkwing Duck
>PPG
>Jackie Chan Adventures
>Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
>The Legend of Tarzan
>Codename: Kids Next Door
>Clone High
>6teen
this is just to name a few that I remember off the top of my head. all had female main characters & some were even the title character

>>93871479
adult shows generally don't last long unless they're network
on top of that, I've heard there's lots of behind the scenes drama. plus the hiatus is taking goddamned forever

>>93871685
>Billy & Mandy
>Jimmy Neutron
>Mighty Bee
>Danny Phantom

>>93866143
>synthesis
>Implying episodic slice of life is a circular narrative
>maximalism
>Drama and action are anime concepts
You're give me a really pseud vibe my man.

>>93869920
Isn't Nefcy a recent calarts graduate?

Also when people talk about a project, it begins with the actual corporate pitch. I've shown a lot of my own shit to a lot of people, but I consider none of those projects "in development" yet.

>>93871685
Yeah that was a shitty example. A better example of MLPs influence is it showed that you can make a good "girl" show and you can make a good show out of a previously shitty property.

AT or MLP. Both kind of shit the bed in their own ways, so it's hard to compare. AT proved continuity sells, MLP proved that girls sell, two previously unheard of beliefs coming from execs.

>>93872150
and both gave birth to some of the cringiest fandoms of their time
then came SU

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(((important)))

>>93866047
No as...

>entered into an era of harsh competition with Blue Jacket Lupin III, Yowamushi Peddle and Kemono Friends.
>got skullfucked by all of them.
>already has a theatrical movie on the way, which nobody asked for.
>has been bashed and ripped about in the news.
>returned us to the era of awful, 1D characters, predicable plots, abismal timing and posing and unneeded morals.
>Got so bad that Steven Fucking Spielberg came back to cartoons and said "Enough with this trash I'm bringing back Animaniacs to fix the industry myself".

As well as more homes =/= good, it's only popular with the lolicon & hentai communities as kids are smart enough to avoid it, they're too busy playing Minecraft & Overwatch.

Nobody is asking for a Loud House feature, it's only being made because it's extremely cheap.

>Loud House is the highest in Cable ratings.
No, that will still be Spongebob and ratings means nothing if everyone hates it as is the case with Teen Titans Go.
>>93869628
No, just no.
>>93870852
Eyes are not not that close together, if you want humans who look like actual humans go watch Castlevania:TAS as it will save your life one day.
>>93871685
Uhhh....

>Gummi Bears
>Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers
>Tiny Toon Adventures
>Animaniacs
>Ojamajo Doremi
>Hamtaro
>Secret of Cerulean Sand
>Mirumo De Pon
>Ramen Fighter Miki
>Mamegoma
>The Daughter of 20 Faces
>Nobunaga's Shinobi

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>>93856719
Serious answer: like most have said, probably Adventure Time and MLP. Both set the stage for a lot of trends to come like narrative arcs and female characters.

Off chance SU will be remembered for being genuinely groundbreaking with some social issues while something like Korra just put on last minute airs.

>>93875523
Uhhh.... If you want groundbreaking with some social issues go watch The Simpsons.

>>93872292
AT's fanbase was never that bad desu, the worst thing it did was clutter up /co/ when a big deepest lore episode hit, other fanbases harass the people making the show and convince artists to kill themselves

>>93871685
He clearly said cartoons where the female is the main characters, not token female side characters

>>93876305
See >>93875426

>>93856719
>Animated series
>Important

>>93876341
>it's a bunch of literally who anime shit

Japan has been ahead of the curve for a long time. I'm pretty sure the OP meant influential in regards to western cartoons

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>>93875680
AT has some pretty cringey fans, mang

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>>93876395
Hamtaro is not a "who anime" series, people know about that.

>>93876305
every show I mentioned has female characters that are in every episode, take part in their own stories on the show, & aren't antagonists (save for the odd episode)
of course, if you wanna make the argument for the token character, then SU & Star can both fall into that category
>Star=token magical princess/girl next door
>Garnet=Token emotionless "above it all" character
>Amethyst=Token fat ass emo
>Pearl=Token naggy lesbian

>>93875601
In the 2010s? The Simpsons was a shambling corpse by that time.

>>93876669
It is not a shambling corpse, it's bland but not a shambling corpse.

>>93876765
it's held together with staples & duct tape

>>93856719
Adventure Time saved Western Animation.

>>93862558
Gumball should be mentioned for sure. It isn't the most important but I think it's the greateat overall kids cartoon of it's era. Gumball is on the same level of writing as AT and MLP, but can still be spammed like TTG.

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>>93856939

>>93856719
obviously SU fag, GORGEOUS FREEMAN

>>93877090
>>93877242
No.
>>93877129
No, it only made things worse.

>>93856741
/thread
Love it or hate it was the cartoon that basically shaped the entirety of the 2010's.

>>93877450
No, that was Madoka Magica.

Gumball is more prominent worldwide especially in Japan.

>>93877732
One Piece & Pokemon ass rape it however.

>>93877650
Loved Madoko, but I'm not an anime fan myself beyond a couple shows. Can you please explain to me the influences? By "entirety" what I really meant was "entirety of American cartoon industry" but I'd like to know why or how Madoka helped shaped animation.

>>93877732
who gives a fuck about japan?

>>93877839
Same reason how Ren & Stimpy shaped the 90s, it took something that already exists and turned it on it's head.

>>93877853
I do, otherwise the Switch wouldn't be as big as it is right now.

>>93877853

It's also popular in Arabic nations and Africa.

>>93877895

Plus, Japan actually has Gumball 3DS themes. That's how you know it had an impact.

https://www.gonintendo.com/stories/246519-japan-the-amazing-world-of-gumball-3ds-themes-due-out-tomorrow

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Loud House checklist

>breaking new ground and not failing by being pretentious
CHECK
>beat the motherfucking sponge in ratings
CHECK
>popularity didn't go to their heads
CHECK
>bringing back good ol' cartoon plots and modernizing them
CHECK
>human characters that actually behave like humans, no zany bullshit unless it's mean to be lampshaded
CHECK
>efforts to stand out by using family values and spreading love and tolerance were rewarded with multiple season deals and feature movie
CHECK

Loud House wins.

>>93871099
You are the cartoon community equivalent of the sort of moron from /pol/ that denies climate change and gets all of his news from Breitbart.

>>93877962
That means nothing.

>>93878039
What did RWBY have an influence on? I never hear about it outside of the occasional /co/ thread, and even then I haven't seen one in awhile.

>>93878053

I could go on about how it has won awards like BAFTAs and such but y'all keep living in the bubble.

>>93877872
That's it? I'm not much of an anime fan but I'm not sure how that influenced anything. Magical Girls were always popular but from what can tell from my friends who do watch anime the recent trend for it recently is slice of life comedies like Dragon Maid.

Again, with AT you can see how that warped modern animation. Since it came out more and more shows and young artists began adopting minimalistic art styles with a storyboard driven focus over actual script writing.

You have to specify more how Madoka influenced modern animation.

>>93878018
No of that is true however as.

>breaking new ground and not failing by being pretentious
Nope, Filmation was doing the same song and dance with Fat Albert in the 70s.
>beat the motherfucking sponge in ratings
This is not Sazae-San.
>popularity didn't go to their heads
If this were the case they wouldn't be a unneeded movie.
>bringing back good ol' cartoon plots and modernizing them
Nope, no wise cracking rabbits or zany off the wall ducks in site.
>human characters that actually behave like humans, no zany bullshit unless it's mean to be lampshaded
Nope, everyone is a 1D stereotype.
>efforts to stand out by using family values and spreading love and tolerance were rewarded with multiple season deals and feature movie
The only reason why were getting any of this is because it's cheap, we don't want any of this, we want more shows like Castlevania:TAS when there is effort and depth put into the show.

All it did was make Korra look good and have everyone begging Bryke to come back to Nick.

>>93878229
>we want more shows like castlevania.
there's a reason why it's a netflix exclusive, you won't find that shit in cable or regular ass TV.

>>93856719
Mlp I guess.
>>93856741
this is a close second though.

>>93878299
I'm not talking about it's violent content, I'm talking about it's quality and depth in it's plot and characters.

>>93878392
You can find that on TV, but it's not gonna be animated.

>>93878392
>an adaptation of a 8-bit videogame with design cues from a later game in the franchise
>mixing something old with something new
>deep plot and of high quality
it's the equivalent of cape movies

>>93878484
But now is the time to make them animated.
>>93878505
Not a bad thing mind you but we need to put it to shame.

>>93878018
I don't like gays

>>93878538
>But now is the time to make them animated.
Few companies want to put much money into animation unless it's going to have a large merchandise tie-in, unfortunately.

>>93878039
and outside of the internet, what exactly has RWBY done to influence greater culture?
it's shit from anime and jrpgs that monty threw into a blender and it's ultimately a shitty soul eater ripoff

>>93878126
>minimalistic art styles
I'd argue that's been around since Dexter's Lab & PPG
>storyboard driven focus over actual script writing
that's been around since the old looney tunes cartoons

>>93879084
Not the show itself per se but Monty's Dead Fantasy series pushes the envelope of what fan service can be

>>93879009
Explain Ren & Stimpy then.

It can happen again.
>>93879126
>I'd argue that's been around since Dexter's Lab & PPG
That has been around since the 50s with UPA.

>>93879875
>Explain Ren & Stimpy then.
Do you think R&S didn't have a lot of merchandising?

>>93879917
John K entered the industry to stop the toy commercials.

>>93879971
Which didn't stop Nick from merchandising the hell out of his creation. He can claim that he stood on principle, but history doesn't reflect that.

>>93879992
The amount of toy adds did lowered once Ren & Stimpy came out however.

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>Tfw still under a hiatus

The amazing world of gumball

>>93856999
>>93857434
so Wallachia is the German version of The Boondocks?

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>>93871307
Snack World is alright.

>>93878071
Every last piece of independent animation being worked on as we speak.

>>93879084
See >>93882353

>>93882208
whats this from?

>>93875680
Really mlps fanbases biggest problem is how obsessed they can get.
One thing I will give them credit for is they drove off all the social justice warriors.

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>>93882381
Come on, anon.

>>93862478
>SU is MLP for black people

God damn I gotta remember that.

>>93882381
this.

The Nutshack (Season 2)

>>93856741
Most influential absolutely.

Everyone is talking about the art style knockoffs, I feel like the biggest influence was that it started a trend where childish-looking cartoons had episodes that focused on mature subject matters.

>>93861678
Thats the same thing, dude.
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/Walachei

>>93882444
SU is the boogeyman show enjoyed by people who are not me.It's watched by people outside the target demographics therefore it's bad.I'm above this,i read comic book who were always targeted at me
Sure ,it's a foolproof analogy

>>93862478
>Every theme has been touched upon in other titles
That is a fucking retarded argument,does that mean that once a show addressed X issue,all the other show are banned from addressing it.Also that old "fan of X show only watch X show.Noto ther content ever.All their lives revolve around X show" strawman bullshit

>>93883609
Problem with that is there were plenty of cartoons before Adventure Time dealing with subject matters like prejudice, genocide, political conspiracies, etc.

>>93862047
>Look at this cringe thread and those nutpicked people,clearly they represent the whole spectrum of people sharing a common interest
Good thing MY fandom is not like this,it's perfect and I myself is counterculture,special and unique

>>93883681
Agreed.
SUfags do have this strange tendency to pretend Steven universe was the first to do something though.

>>93856719
The seminal classic, SJ season 5.
/r9k/fags will disagree, but it's not like those non-contributors count.

>>93857105
The 2016 season of MLP is largely considered to be the worst one though. I'd be extremely surprised if ANYTHING was influenced by it.

As for my own opinion, I'm going to say... Sonic Boom is the most likely to be actually influential. There's certainly more popular shows, I don't think any of them did anything particularly different in 2016 to make them more influential than they already were. The only other new "different" thing was The Loud House, and that was almost a cookie-cutter formula.

>>93886421
Disregard that, I thought OP said 2016, and not 2010s. In which case, yeah, MLP wins hands-down both by showing that there's a way to write cartoons for girls without being atrocious and that slice-of-life shows can indeed exist outside of the ordinary present-day-normal-people setting.

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>>93858876
>>93858404
>everyone says SU is gay propaganda
>turns out the story is about a tyrannical homo authority trying to destroy hetero love
How deep does this go?

>>93869554

How is drag racing real? Just look away from the road!

>>93870852
>hair already gray at age 11 from having TEN fucking sisters.

My little pony season 4 by a landslide

Single handedly put western cartoons back on the radar again, everything you're currently watching, with actual plot and continuity, is a direct consequence of what MLP started, otherwise all you'd be getting is more spongebob.

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>>93856719
>>93856741

>tfw you realize the best animation in your country is gay shit, more gay shit and children cartoons

it's a real shame

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>>93886505
Here's the thing

>>93864477
>Steven Universe is the deliverance of east/west synthesis
I just checked and he's right.
My toilet is on the east side of the house and the septic tank is on the west.

>>93889405
Dang, I started reading this with more than a little skepticism but damned if I don't agree with it.

>>93883609
I want examples of art styles on tv shows inspired by AT. only one I can think of is that other crappy show made by Ward that Frederator put on jewtube
other than that, practically every show on the air is just using the fucking CalArts face