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This is just like any Marvel event in terms of story quality.
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All interior preview pages are by Joshua Cassara
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I don't know what it's properly called but I'm not really digging the smudginess of this art.
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Final bonus
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>>93839415
>6 of 10

This is why events need to be no more than 6 issues. This event is just dragging itself out. The best issue was the Pymtron one but that seemed like a filler issue or some tie in issue smuggled into the main series.

You'd think after Secret Wars and CW2 having delays they'd have this cut down but instead there's delay, multiple artists of questionable quality, and price increases.
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>>93839493
>>93839509
>Hydra Medusa
>Hydra Black Widow
?

>>93839523
Hot
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>>93839454
My thoughts exactly
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>>93839556
This. You can really tell whats filler or editorial adding something in in the last minute.
I have to say, this has been the worst Marvel event in recent memory, at least we got a Pymtron issue out of it.
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>>93839493
>Hydra Medusa dyes her hair green
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>>93839556
This never should have been turned into a massive event. Something like Standoff would have been fine.
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>>93839509
>Clint, you're gay
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>>93839494
mudd
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>>93839633
What is civil war 2?
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>>93839480
These panels sum up Spencer's intentions with this event perfectly. His sole purpose in this story is to push his politics. Natasha is Spencer's mouthpiece/soapbox. Steve is DRUMPF.
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>>93839556
Worst part is, given the previous issue, the Pymtron issue was essentially filler considering that the who cosmic cube shard search quest portion of the story went nowhere other than giving Hydra another win
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>>93839454
Joaquin's eyes look even weirder than usual.
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>>93839808
No the purpose of the story is to fix Zemo. Everything else is just him shitposting his politics for fun.
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>>93839808
I got that vibe from this dialogue also. This entire event is Spencer preaching, as if we're dumb enough not to notice it. I don't think this is A Ultimatum level event, but it destroys so many characters.
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>>93839797
This one's just lazy. The issue that opens with Star Lord they added a real-Steve segment before it, and they just pasted a lame caption about stars to try and loop it back together. It was such a lazy addition that the caption was placed as far into a corner as possible to not disrupt the original page.
Probably autism, but they said they just need to hammer out Secret Empire so they can segway into Legacy. There's nothing driving the event forward, we all know it's going to be reset somehow anyway.
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>>93839454
The state of your talent pool when this is the artist chosen for an event comic, this whole sequence had to have been redrawn at the last minute by the first guy they could find.
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>>93839454
>>93839465
>>93839480
Like, I want to be interested, but I'm just can't give a fuck. This event is so dull.

Also, did Cho joining the Hydra group mean anything? Cause that seemed to be a tie in to nothing.
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>>93839975
It's for the Legacy thing where everything becomes being your daughter to work day.

Cho and Hulk team up
Teen Jean and Regular Pheonix Jean
Wolverine and X23
Hawk and eye and hawk bitch

Anything to get Legacy off the ground really. Expect a double cross with Bruce, and Mockingbird.
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>>93839975
They got the old guy who we don't know who the fuck he is out and got Viper to side with them. At this point Blackwidow isn't even trying to stop Hydra, she just wants to kill Steve and Miles was predicted to be the one that kills him a few months ago during the 2nd civil war arc, so he went with her.
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>>93839523
boobs of diamond.
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>>93839480
Wait, how is any of this Natasha or anyone else's fault? What exactly were they supposed to do that would have stopped Captain Keikaku?
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>>93839493
/toy/ solider here

We'd fucking kill for a Medusa figure with half the hair of that mock-up
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>>93839465
So, any theories on who the old man is? And why won't Natasha tell them who it is?
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>>93839465

so the old man

is this Steve before Kobik made him young? Seems too obvious, but I can't think of any other old white man who might be so relevant to this story
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>>93840114

it's their fault for not eradicating Hydra
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>>93840114
This is why the small time skip is bad. Maybe they could have done something, but who fucking knows because we didn't see anything actually play out.
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>>93840199
Not for lack of trying. What part of "cut off one head, two more shall take its place" do you not understand?
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>>93840114
See >>93839808
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>>93840165
If it's Old Man Steve, it would explain why Natasha doesn't care about the Cosmic Cube plan and just wants to assassinate Captain Hydra.
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>>93839415
Great masterpiece.
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>>93840223

Allowing them to take over America is a SERIOUS 'lack of trying'
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>>93840263
What exactly could they have done to stop it? Especially since Steve orchestrated so that all the heavy-hitters would be outside the shield, and half the superhero community would be stuck in New York.
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>>93839428
>Temporarily resurrected
Wait, why is "temporary"?
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>>93839415
How did Steve convince Wanda and Thor to join HYDRA????
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can someone give me a quick run down on what happened so far on secret empire?
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>>93839509
I've got the urge to play some csgo rn
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>>93839428
LMAO
additional art is a fancy way of saying fill-in
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>>93840517
Wanda is controlled by a demon, and Cap told Thor if he goes along with this, he'll help him get his hammer back
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>>93840517
Wanda is possessed by Chthon (who is allied with Hydra for some reason) and Vision was hacked.
Thor is being blackmailed by Hydra's help since without them Thor can't return to Asgard or save Jane, and he's also conflicted because Steve is apparently worthy of wielding Mjolnir.
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>>93839523
Cool, the one time that perfectly spherical tits would be appropriate on a character
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>>93839523
THE TITS, YOU GO FOR THE TITS FIRST !
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>>93840846
>Wanda is possessed by Chthon
>who is allied with Hydra for some reason
Elisa probably had something to do with it
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>>93840310

They could have sent the Punisher to kill Captain America or something. Cap's not god, he can be killed
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>>93840537

>Cap Hydra took over America
>Inhumans being treated like the Jews in the holocaust
>Mutants isolated to their own state of California, no longer US territory
>Carol Danvers, GotG, and other heroes stuck outside a force field that covers Earth
>Stark AI, Sam Wilson, Mockingbird and a few others are trying to collect the MacGuffin to unfuck Captain America
>but Mockingbird was revealed to be a Hydra mole
>Black Widow and the teen heroes doing black ops shit, Natasha convinced Madame Hydra to betray Cap
>Doc Ock also joined Hydra to get help in fucking over Parker
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>>93840114
Natasha is trying to turn The Champions into mini Black Widows, child soldiers.
The Champions have been complaining about it since she took them in, anon, keep up.
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>>93841012
But The punisher is on Caps side. Do you even read comics? That's the last thing Frank would do.
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>>93839523

how do you all think diamond tits feel?

and would Cyclops get bad cuts from tit fucking her, or putting it in her diamond vagina?
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>>93841243
she can't use her mind powers while in diamond form so it seems like a waste, you'd probably want that feedback loop
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>>93841243
>>93841292
Doesn't she have fake tits? There's a chance that they are hard even when not in diamond form
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>>93840846
>who is allied with Hydra for some reason
They established that Chthon is Elisa's beta-orbiter back in Captain America: Steve Rogers.
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>>93839454
>>93839465
>>93839480
This art is horrible.
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>>93840846
Chthon having free rein in Wanda's body should be a huge event in itself.

The Elder God of all evil magic is possessing his favored vessel on Earth and has access to power that's fucked up the Phoenix Force
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>>93839454
Haha, "Nad."
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>>93839808
>THE OLD GENERATION IS BAD
>BUY THE BOOKS OF THE DIVERSITY """HEROES"""
>BELIEVE US TRUE BELIEVERS

Man, fuck Marvel. Seriously, fuck them. Fuck them with a 10 feet metal rod. They deserve to crash and burn.
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>>93839556
>This is why events need to be no more than 6 issues.
No, this is why you shouldn't have a Big Event every 6 fucking months.

Over at DC they did an event called 52 that was a year long weekly comic and it was pretty awesome. But then they decided to do it again and we got Batman Eternal ( which started out pretty good and rapidly went off the rails ); followed by Future's End ( which was a clusterfuck and then a hard reset at the end because Time Travel Shenanigans a-la Age Of Ultron over at Marble ); and then Batman and Robin Eternal ( which was billed as being half as long as BE so as to allay fears of it being another bloated unfocused mess ... it was STILL a bloated and unfocused mess. )

What I'm saying here is that the problem isn't the LENGTH as such; rather it's the GREED that leads to padding things out via decompression and digression and "FUCK IT, WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!" style non-planning as epitomized by modern era Bendis.

A 6 issue cap won't help if you've got some cunt cramming 2 issues worth of plot into those 6 issues and, on the flip side, Watchmen was actually a 6 issue story that Moore needed to get 12 issues out of:

"When writing the script for the first issue, Moore said he realized, "I only had enough plot for six issues. We were contracted for 12!" His solution was to alternate issues that dealt with the overall plot of the series with origin issues for the characters."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen

It comes down to the quality of the writing ( which is increasingly weak as anyone worth their salt moves from The Big Two to Creator Owned ) and the quality of the Editorial which, in the case of Marble, has been an oxymoron ever since Jewmutter took over:

http://www.comicsbeat.com/marvel-layoffs-the-cheapskate-is-coming-from-inside-the-house-of-ideas/
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>>93839465
>>93839480
>More Miles shilling.
Can you just fucking not.
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>>93839454
OH MY GOD WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAAAC-
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>>93839454
So Nadia went along to stop Black Widow from killing Steve and support Miles (who's openly talked about he wants to kill Steve due to the prophesy)

How the hell does a writer contradict himself in the same sentence?!
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>>93839454
Aaaaaaagh that fucking face in panel 1.
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>>93840114
>Captain Keikaku

I don't know why but this had me bursting out in laughter in the middle of work.
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>>93839415
>Jewish woman and daughter of Holocaust survivor joins Nazis

what did they mean by this.
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>>93839415
Is this not the most cynical event in recent Marvel if not all of Marvel history? Like I see no fun in it, just pure cynicism
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>>93844785
well apparently shes possessed by a demon. When it happened i have no idea.
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>>93840114
Voted for Hilary Clinton, shitlord
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>>93844785

She hasn't been Magneto's daughter, nor half-Jewish since Axis retconned that away. Polaris is now Magneto's only living relative.
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>>93846321
She's still a gypsy
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What's the current bingo status?
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>>93839556
>>6 of 10

What was the original final number... 8? 9? And they're adding an omega issue as well, right?
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>>93846347
So is Doom but he's done worst shit that Inhumans and Superior Captain Hydra has ever done. In fact he was the one that tricked Wanda into shoahing the mutants the first time.
>Moral of the story
There are no good Gypsy or Jew. Period.
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>>93843545
Chthon possessing Wanda is the Defcon 1 of mystic Marvel.

I suspect Captain Keikaku's plan is exploiting the fact Wanda may well be restricting Chthon.
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>>93850634
I'm very interested to know what Chthon thinks of all that shenanigans, and he obviously knows who killed Wanda's mother.
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>>93839465
So...Punisher managed to get Widow, bust they let her go?
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>>93839480
Why can't Spencer attempt to be subtle?

When allegory is shoved in your face it ceases to work as allegory.
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>>93851386
Kieron GIlleon killed subtlety, and Bendis and Fraction followed suit.
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