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Cassandra Cain Appretiation Thread

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Barbara is for barbarians. True feminine appretiation is loving Cassandra Cain.
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Holy fuck you guys just keep making them.
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>>93828646
wut???
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>>93828579
She had pontetial, I think Damien Wayne creation it was made DC nuked her, two new youngcharacters linked to the League of Assassins.

She would have worked on the Arkhamverse and the DCEU much better than Barbara.
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*Appreciation
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>>93830467
>I think Damien Wayne creation it was made DC nuke her

This, and also the reintroduction of Batwoman in the original 52 series.

Cass is the only Batgirl that you could do a action/martial arts movie with a comics storyline, the fight against the League of Assassins and Lady Shiva would be epic and the Chinese market would love it.
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Has Cassandra Cain ever been animated?
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>>93830467
>I think Damien Wayne creation it was made DC nuked her

DC had already started the wheels rolling to nuke her (and Nightwing during IC) before even Damien (remember the character was more like a done-in-one that was going to die in Morrison's original Batman & Son story before he stuck around and got elevated to Robin).
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>>93830698
Other than a small cameo in a Nazi-Ruled alternate timeline in a Justice League episode,no.
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>>93828579
>Marvel makes a female, minority version of their heroes and everyone hates them
>DC makes a female, minority version of their hero and everyone loves her
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>>93831303
it's ok when DC makes Green Lantern gay
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>>93831303
Well that is because DC does not push out said character for diversity quotas so thinly veiled,you can see it a mile away whilst wearing sunglasses at night.
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>>93831303
>people dislike bad characters and like good characters

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>>93831338
No, they simply make announcements for their new genderfluid characters
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>>93828579
/ss/ with Damien when?
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>>93828646

So many here adore the character.
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>>93830673
Damien didn't kill her. Batwoman and an unhealthy fixation on Barbara back as Batgirl did. Compare character-wise now she dances around Barbara who's just awful now.
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>>93831303
Cass is a sidekick, she's more interchangeable than a main hero. Plus DC has by this point established a history of legacy heroes inheriting mantles. This got started way back in the 80s with Jason Todd.
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>>93831576
You mean in the 50s with Barry Allen
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>>93831428
Wrong Super Son.
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QUESTION: How do you imagine her voice?

I imagine she has a thick lisp with a hint of a Japanese accent, also with lots of short pauses as she's thinking of the right word to use next. Those little imperfections in how she speaks makes her cute.
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>>93831303
DC didn't shit all over Barbara in order to promote Cass. Whor, Riri, Miles, Sam Alexander, Falcon, etc were all being pushed while Thor, Iron Man, Spiderman, Richard Rider, Steve, etc had their characters assassinated. About the only legacy that didn't fuck the original at Marvel was Kamala which means she doesn't incur the wrath of Carol fags/shills.
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>>93830698
In the JL episode The Savage Time.
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>>93831303
>DC makes a female, minority version of their hero and everyone loves her
Not everyone.
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>>93828579
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>>93831303
legacy heroes are a thing in DC, not so much Marvel.
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>>93833382
I thought that was supposed to be Tim's clay waifu.
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>>93833559
DC editorial staff hated her.
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>>93833936
She was created by two nobodies (Pluckett & Scott) in the comics industry.

Damien was created by Grant Morrison and Batwoman was reintroduced by Rucka, Morrison, Waid in the first 52 comics.
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>>93833716
Thats Huntress
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>>93834021
Almost everyone who wrote Cass well has leaven the comics industry, I liked Chuck Dixon take on her in Batman and the Ousiders.
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>>93828579
>we never got a Cass skin for the Arkham games
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deer diearry

hadh longh tawlk weth theh too wemin woo liv her nohw. I hoope wee kan bee frends
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>>93835278
This hurts so much. I was sure Cass would be featured in Arkham Knight.
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>>93835302
The language thing was such a jackass gimmick.
Even if a person was trained to "read" combat before learning words, that wouldn't disable the capacity for basic communication.
People who grow up learning sign language aren't incapable of learning French.
Who writes this shit?
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>>93831748
Underrated.
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>>93828579
Cass is the only Batgirl made explicitly as waifu bait so I'm not surprised she's popular on /co/.
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>>93828579
I would really love to see her interacting with Conner again.
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>>93835302
I've always wondered where this is from.
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>>93831303
Well, the fanboys at DC editorial didn't.
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man it always brings joy to my heart to see a Cass thread but it's been so long Im not sure I have the energy for em I used to
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>>93835941
They do now again.
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>>93835566
Isn't Conner still playing Silver Surfer to that Living Monolith or whatever that thing was called?
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>>93836655

We don't know where the hell Conner is right now. He's been removed from the field. He's not remembered in Reign of Superman in the current universe, and Superman knows deep down something still feels amiss in the universe.
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>>93836010

It has been awhile.
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>>93836668
Maybe having both Jon and Conner around at time same would constitute a glut of Kryptonians, according to DC editorial.
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>>93835460
Studies on feral kids raised by animals and/or ignored by their parents are really messed up and whilst they can learn individual words for things, the full context of language often escapes them. So it's not impossible.

Of course that's compounded by the psychological effects of not being able to communicate with other humans growing up, malnutrition etc.

Cass was raised by David Cain harshly but also with some love (hugs, smiles etc) plus if he was raising the perfect warrior he would make sure her diet was as good as he could make it.

So in balance, I agree with you - Cass should have been able to learn to speak and read. Her not being able to was writers forcing it for story issues, like Barbara not getting magic/super-tech fix for her spine.
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>>93833382
This is the kind of post I like to see.
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>>93831979
Grey DeLisle when she did the Sorceress in Diablo III
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>>93834156
Didn't that pic include mommy dearest?
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>>93837040
The scene that broke the DC Universe.
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>>93837007
And now Clayface is Cass' best friend. DC comics are crazy nowadays.

>>93836941
Now I want to see original David Cain serving lil' Cass a big stack of steaks for dinner while she has a bright smile and black eye. Nu Cain was just charmless in every way, including his child abuse.
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>>93834021
Makes you wonder why some characters take off and others don't huh? ...
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>>93836941
I thought the fact that they mad where able to speak by some sort of weird deus ex machina shit in the first place was kinda dumb...
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>>93838114
that whole telepath thing was utterly stupid.

>Hi I'm a novice telepath but I completely rearranged the way your mind works, giving you the ability to speak but removing your ability to read peoples body language

Move over Martian Manhunter, this guy should be in the Justice League
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>>93838183
Yeah I agree, it would make more sense to me if Wonder Woman simply gave her some serious speech therapy, the kind that only she can give because she speaks all languages, including some animal ones.
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>>93838212
Now that would make far more sense, especially given Diana's combat skills

>Montage of Diana and Cass fighting on the beaches of Thermiscrya whilst Diana speaks various phrases - 'translating' them from body language to a spoken one for Cass.
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>>93838238
Print it!
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>>93838238
Neat!
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>>93836010
The problem is that now she is no longer the character she was ten years ago. Cass was my favorite Batgirl and now just an empty shell.
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>>93835552
What? Cass is probably the least waifu baitish of them all
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so I know nothing about her but always liked her outfit out of all the batgirls and wanna read some stuff of her
is there like a list of all her stuff worth reading?
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>>93838587
>>Blueberry shit
>>The faces are actually cute.

I know it's a fetish, but those faces make it seem cute.
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>>93837071
Yes.
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>>93838596
There is indeed a list, but it is all pre-Flashpoint material. For the new version, just read Batman and Robin Forever and Tynion's run on TEC.
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>>93837040
gross
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>>93837052
nobody deserves the horror of tim
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>>93840179
I rather wish the Superboy thing lasted a little longer.
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>>93837019
Damn duck!!!!
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>>93840308
Me too.
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>>93837037
Didn't that artist die?
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>>93841444
I've never heard that.
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>>93842559
>loving an alien

Heresy
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>>93842941
Batman said something to the same effect.
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>>93834021
>Damien was created by Grant Morrison and Batwoman was reintroduced by Rucka, Morrison, Waid in the first 52 comics.

Don't you mean reintroduced TWICE by Rucka and Morrison given they created her. But Rucka had to be the one to establish her background when DC realized maybe handing that to Devin Grayson would be a BAD idea.
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>>93841444
> Didn't that artist die?

Nope he's still among the living. It's just that he doesn't go to /co/ anymore. He stopped reading comics when the New 52 came about. Hasn't gotten back into them.

He still loves Cass. It's just that I think the last sketch he drew of her was I think this.

>>93842559

I think. It's either that or this one.
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Level with me Cassfans, is her series really worth reading after the Kelley Puckett run ends?

I read some of her comics and I remember having mixed feelings but mainly disappointment. The stuff with her meeting Superboy & fighting Dr. Death, I later learned that was a few issues after Puckett left, so is the first 30 issues of that comic the reason why everyone praises the book?
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When will Basil and Cassandra finally go out on a cute yet awkward sort of date?
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>>93835628
Dixon's run on Batman and the Outsiders. Really good 10 issues.
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>>93836527
Only Tynion. And maybe Conroy.
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>>93831303
If you seriously can't tell the difference between Marvel and DC in how they handle their "diverse" characters then 1. You need to seriously take a few night classes on writing 101. and B. Stop posting on /co/ until you can tell the difference. Faggot.
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>>93844230
The art gets worlds better after that part. Her stay in Bludhaven is really entertaining.
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>>93840308
The interactions between Superman and Batman alone made that ship worth it.
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>>93844659
The art is shit, but I love how Superman's posture in the last panel conveys that he can't believe this shit.
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>>93844260
>Date
Why?
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>>93844230

The thing about Dylan Horrocks (the guy who replaces Puckett) his story is good, but the art SUCKS. The guy who took over tried to be Scott, but became later day Scott. Which is funny cause nowadays he's draws basically like Scott during the good years on the comic.

Horrocks' run becomes more entertaining once Rich Leonardi shows up for drawing duty. Then the second negative against Horrocks' run comes in: War Games.

War Games basically cripped Cass's supporting cast at the time. Stephanie dies and Barbara has to leave Gotham. So Horrocks has reasoning for Barbara/Cass splitting is pic related.
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>>93844758
This scene has always been weird to me. Feels so out of character for Babs to call her stupid.
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>>93844230

Andersen Gabrych's run starts off real strong with a good crossover between Cass and Tim. Then he goes to work rebuilding a descent supporting cast around Cass. Really the only meh part of the new supporting cast is Zero, the teenage love interest. Other than that Brenda and her sntich are fine.

The grand problem with Gabrych's run is it's burdened by Infinite Crisis and the fact that it seems like he was building up to #75 and Editors told him to dwindle that down to two issues so the series ended by #73.

The grand problems with Gabrych is he has the worst issues of the entire series (Biker Pigman and Lazuraza or whatever the hell Nora called herself after she took a dip in the Lazarus Pit).

That and everything just feels so goddamn rushed by the end. You get that Gabrych was cutting corners.

The biggest pros though is that he's got Pop Mhan and Ale Garza on art. Both are perfect artists for the character. I prefer Garza though cause his Cass looked scary as fuck and captured best the motion Scott established with her in the comic.
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>>93844865

Damn there's a lot of "grand" problems. Ugh.. but yeah so in short Horrocks starts off with a strong story with meh art. Then gets good then falls off the rails thanks to War Games.

Gabrych starts the ground running good before Editorial slams the door on him having to rush the comic to end at #73.
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>>93844687

It amazes me how much this artist improved. Someone got a sketch from him recently and his art style has improved A LOT.
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>>93844260
> date

Though it is cute that their friendship is one of the best highlights of Tec. We all know who Cass is truly thirsty for.
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>>93844230

The thing about Puckett/Scott's run it's actually 37 issues with some filler written by Chuck Dixon and Scott Peterson (but mostly drawn by Scott).

At the core they're character pieces that focus on the lives in Gotham with Cass being the one that effects them: good or bad.

WIth the overall subplot being A.) Cass embracing the lifestyle of a vigilante without having a life beyond it. Something Barbara wants her to have. B.) Cass having a death wish for murdering that one person which leads into Shiva which is an epic fight by itself.

I will say this. Puckett stuff is good character building but there are a bit of flaws to it. The convenient telepath who "fixes" Cass's head so she can narrate from now on.

>>93844433

King thinks of her still as the best fighter. And the BoP writer wants to use her. Better her than whomever is writing Babs' comic. Also someone in DC Staff must like her to have made sure two of her trades came out near her "birthday" in January.
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>>93837040
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>>93840179
I just find it more hilarous the fanart since many think she won the "Virgin Bowl" with all the women who were so thirsty for Tim during that period on Red Robin. But really the relationship only works as a threesomes, or foursome if you include Kon which is acceptable.
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>>93845208
NO
CASS IS FOR STEPH
KON IS FOR TIM
ITS SIMPLE OK
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>>93845239

I get it. I really do but-- The threesome just works. If Kon has Cassie and can't have Tim. Well-- it just works better with Cass being the alpha amongst the three.
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>>93845239
>KON IS FOR TIM

I suddenly recall the scene where Kon was wearing a box on his head, and speaking like Adam West Batman
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> we will never have a glorious money shot pic of Bat Kon and Cass posing.

WHY?!
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>>93831979
i read her voice as just a normal female voice, but if i think about it, it should be pretty slow and deliberate. maybe with some strange inflections and whatever accent the people around her speak in. she should also say very few words, but those niggers had her reciting shake-a-spear on every page
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>>93828579
Reminder that if you ship Cass with Kon, Tim, Steph or anyone you are a terrible person. Cass is not for relationships. She is for battle and a constant melancholic longing for a life which she can never truly have.
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>>93838640
>faces are actually cute
>ugly tumblr faces with tumblr noses
dude, how
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>>93836941
she's also dyslexic, and on the run for like 7 years.

She didn't start TRYING, at least with consistence, to learn how to read\speak until she became Batgirl.
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>>93837274
I want the whole "lost ten years" thing to resolve and Cain murdering the shit out of whoever was responsible for causing his daughter so much suffering.
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Cass is not for sexual only for righteous violence
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>>93846621
She was also a less than enthusiastic student when it came to reading.
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>>93838183
it was a rush job.

Basically people were reading the book too fast, resulting in them feeling it wasn't worth the money(this is an actual technical problem, as balloons etc are used to "force" the readers to a specific pace. It's not an artbook, after all)

So they had to ditch whatever plan for her to learn how to speak\understand others and Jeangrey'd her into English.
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>>93846505

B...but elseworld wacky fish out of water school hijinks are okay right?
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>>93844948
>We all know who Cass is truly thirsty for.
Karate Kid.

If she reacts that way to an excellent dancer, just imagine her reaction to Karate Kid.
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>>93846505
Shut the Fuck Up, David Cain!
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>>93846812
>>93837081
>>93837057
>>93835269
Psu seems to like Cass quite a bit.
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>>93847060
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>>93847086
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>>93847107
bat-nipples
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>>93847140
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>>93847086
okay so a long ass time ago i downloaded this shitty jav clip called the mouthfapulator where some girl with a ring gag gets fucked in the mouth.

so now every single fucking time i see one of those, i cannot NOT immediately think that its called a mouthfapulator
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>>93847161
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>>93847184
Gonna need a link to that clip, senpai.
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When Cass fell into the Lazarus Pit at the end of her series, did the scars heal? The pit had even cured drug addiction in previous instances.
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>>93847241
wow i found it.

http://muchosucko.com/41858/The-Mouthfapulator

i warned you ahead of time that it was shit. god, i got this so long ago
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>>93847263
I love how her uniform is a zentai
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>>93847263

No. The scars remained. The only wound that healed was the fatal wound through her chest.
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>>93828579
YAAAAAY!
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>>93828579
she is bruce's true successor
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>>93847263
>Feels like I'm wearing nothing at all
>nothing at all
>nothing at all
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>>93847641
hell, change a coupla details and she can even wear the beyond outfit
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>>93843532
Batwoman was created in the early 1960s together with first Batgirl before Barbara, they soon got erased and Barbara Batgirl was created to the late 60s Batman tv show.
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I loved Damion Scott's dynamism and use of perspective in her series. It really helped sell the character as the ultimate fighter.

Also loved the way he drew her mask.
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>>93844230
Puckett who did the telepath rewrote her mind bullshit, her first series actually gets good towards the end, Chuck Dixon was her best writer, especially in Batman and the Outsiders.
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>>93840179
It was a time where a lot of people were projecting onto him.
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>>93847060

Psu and kiarou filled that void when DC didn't. They gave us stuff when DC wouldn't. So for that I am in their debt.
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>>93847722

I'm speaking more of the New 52 when she was reintroduced. The modern Batwoman was created by Morrison, Rucka, and Alex Ross (who's design was originally for Barbara). DC was going to spin her off at somepoint in 52 series with her own ongoing written by Devin Grayson.

There were scripts handed in. Art? I don't remember. All that I do is that this ongoing was the reason Cassandra's was canceled because one too many female minority Bat comics at the time was one too many. Now we have two redhead female Bat ongoings. How did Kate's comic end up superior to Barbara's?!
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>>93828632
more of this MUH FEMALE BATMAN shit

go back to TUMBLR
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>>93847679
right that would be the coolest, I think there is even a conversation she has with babs at some point we she says she wants to be batman when she grows up
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>>93847829

Dixon gave her the elements of friendship with Stephanie and a bond that grew with her and Tim. Basically, he gave her the supporting cast besides just Barbara, Bruce, and David. To be with her fellow young Bats.

Puckett took off with the idea what Dixon put in. Honestly? My favorite writer is still Puckett. But Dixon is up there. Gabrych is probably my third favorite with Joe Kelly for the Kon, Cass, and Tim hijinks in that one lone Superboy issue.

I kind of hope DC just gives Dixon a Tim, Steph, and Cass ongoing now that he's back in the fold. Just let him write all three characters in one ongoing No subtextual threesome even if it is logical.

>>93848160

> even Tim realized the best successor to Bruce was Cass.
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>>93848053
feck off to another thread m8
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>>93848210
and Tim is the smartest robin, but Dick is a great batman when he stops trying to be bruce the only fair solution is a triumvirate of batmen with Cass handling the JL duties, Tim running the outsiders and doing international stuff ( Ras and intergang and stuff) and Dick as your friendly local batman
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>>93831303

But most people like Kamala.
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>>93848369
I like it.
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>>93848369
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>>93848408
thanks its the back bone of a spec script/fanfiction I'm writing.
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>>93848477
yeah cause it's a sensible logical move
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>>93832744
>About the only legacy that didn't fuck the original at Marvel was Kamala
Don't forget Robbie Reyes. Sure Marvel pushed him for a while (sort of), but Felipe always made it clear that Robbie wasn't replacing any of the other Ghost Riders
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>>93844918
whose the artist
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>>93830673
Which run is that page from?
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>>93840308
Best ship.
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>>93851595
Adrian Sibar

>>93851861
Gabrych's run, issue 58, I think.
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>It's unlikely that Cass will appear in Something Unlimited

Life's just not fair.
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>>93852503
>>93844918
I got a Lady Shiva sketch from him a couple of months back. Was surprised to find an argie had worked on Batgirl, even for just an arc.
Funny story: he had his wife helping him on his stand, and when I handed over some Shiva ref pics, she went "Wow, she's super hot!"
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>>93852683
What is that?
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>>93852731
A compilation of sunsetrider's art.
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>>93852683

To be fair all of that is based on DC Animated works. Something which Cassandra only had a five-second cameo of.
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>>93852708
You were the person I was referencing when I said that Sibar had improved.
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>>93853284
That's exactly why I said it's unlikely for her to show up in it.
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>>93853317

Unless of course a miracle happens and Young Justice Season 3 has her in it. It won't. Why can't it?!
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>>93828579
That thumbnail looks like Bayonetta.
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>>93853348
>YJ s3
>another time skip
>Babs is now Oracle
>Dick is now Batman
>Tim is RR
>Damian is Robin
>Cass is Batgirl

I don't mind this.
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Does anyone else feel like they just sort of missed out on this era of the Batbooks? It feels like there's a huge contingent of /co/mrades who are deeply attached to Cass, Steph, and Tim, presumably because that's what they grew up on. It's almost like Johns' attachment to the Silver Age. I mean, I think Cass as a character is interesting, but I certainly don't obsess over her.
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>>93853517
A part of it is because this is around the time when the "family" aspect of the Batfamily began to ratchet up. The roster of characters expanding combined with the writers seeming to collectively decide to put Batman at around his early 40's came together to create a much larger emphasis on the characters attached to Batman who were having their own adventures, one that comes together in the Tim/Cass/Steph dynamic very well because they were all made a part of the family at around similar times and each had a different by endearing dynamic with one another. I didn't read this era of the books until I was twenty but I could still see how endearing it was by those three character's dynamic alone.
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>>93831560
>the last time barbara wasn't a dry husk of her former self was when she was crippled
Really makes you think.
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>>93853779
To be fair, the whole reason Barbara was created in the first place was to head off Fred Wertham's accusations that Batman and Robin were having gay pederast sex. Her character base was flimsy at the start. You could argue that her time as Oracle was when she truly became a full-fledged character instead of just a costumed beard.
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>>93831979
>Japanese accent
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>>93852338
That art is shit. I hated some of the cass artists.
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>>93853517

It's the natural cycle of comics. It's self-destructive because of a fancy one era over another hence "iconism".

For my own motives, I bet I'd not even be entrenched of fondness if well. DC didn't fuck the character royally over (and to a degree Stephanie as well). I get the feeling this will happen to others whenever Marvel purges the numerous legacies they've created in the short time. Because that seems to be the cycle of legacy nowadays. The new model gets pushed over by the older model because they see more profit in it. Oy. This is so fucking flawed.
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>>93853845
When you want to get in touch with your Asian heritage, but don't know what kind of Asian you are and just pick one and started poorly imitating them.
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>>93853409
Its Young Justice ominous to Netflix?
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>>93853932
What's funny is that I know in my heart DC is eventually going to get writers that do to Johns' Silver Age heroes what he did to the 90s-early 00s heroes. Barry and Hal and Barbara are all gonna get nuked by a new crop of writers purely to bring back Wally, Kyle, Cass, Steph, Tim, etc.. Sunrise, sunset.
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>>93848053
>m-muh tumlr
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>>93853965
This have been said before but Cass Batgirl would work better in the DCEU (think on the Chinese market) than Barbara.
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>>93853965

It's leaving Netflix in August. I agree though. Hell, they could have wooed James Gunn to do it he did confess that Cass is his favorite DC character.
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>>93837075
>the perfect capebook lesbian ship that doesn't come off as forced or pandering
There would be no hope for Marvel.
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>>93853971

We're seeing a little trickle effect of that already to a degree at DC. The question is how long will the damn hold with the Silver Age before it starts to buck?
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>>93854074
I imagine a Cass film as a Hong Kong action/martial arts flick with a Hollywood budget.
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>>93853965
That's a pretty excellent "crumpled on floor" pose.
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>>93830698
She has a small appearance on Batman: Dark Tomorrow (Gamecube).
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>>93854223
Mah nigga. Cass is practically made for kungfu action shit like Batman in Shanghai.
https://youtu.be/MpBUP3brSgU
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>>93846861
I'm actually pretty serious when I say that. Cass should not be normal. She should not be in romantic relationships. She should constantly strive for, desire, normal and have it always just out of reach because she is not normal and can never be normal.

She shouldn't be the wandering martial artist always seeking out a fight but instead battle comes to her.
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Say there's a new Cass series. You can get anyone to write it, who do you get? I'm leaving out art because the only choice is Tradd Moore.
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>>93854623

Hard question. There are some writers qualified but just one? I dunno. Part of me screams Genevieve Valentine.
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>>93854623
Chuck Dixon.
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Mediocre for a lifetime or perfect for a year.
What's it going to be, /co/?
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>>93853274
I don't know what it is but there's something about this image
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>>93855133
Great facial expression.
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>>93837095
Remember Gotham wants to FUCK Tim Drake
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>>93854411
If a Cas movie happened I would want some brutal coreography like the Raid movies, Headshot (both from Indonesia) or at least something like Batman in the warehouse in BvS.
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>>93837052
>Spider-Man
I died.
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>>93844864
>This scene has always been weird to me. Feels so out of character for Babs to call her stupid.
I think it makes sense, considering the context. She's frustrated with Cass.
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>>93836941

Someone post that meme comic of a feral boy being raised as a girl.
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>>93835278

I want to see Cass, Steph and Damian in the Arkhamverse.
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>>93835278
It pains me to this day.
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>>93856520
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>>93857973
This is my dream.
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>>93857973
I would like to see more games and movies putting superheroes in a "Die Hard" situation like first Arkham Asylum game.
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>>93858141
Thing about that is that it works well with Batman because he isn't really "super" and the Arkham Asylum game makes it apparent with Bat's suit getting more and more worn down as the game progresses and he even gets a bit of stubble and dirt going IIRC.
A lot of supers just wouldn't have the same effect in these situations because then it stops being about "being trapped in a building with the worst" to "the worst being trapped in a building with you".
The recent spiderman games suffer from this in the Arkham-esque stealth/combat sections.
Batman and by extension the batfamily, just feel right in these kinds of situations because their power and the power of their villains are pretty low tier to begin with and without proper care they can end up dying to a normal dude, and this awareness of their mortality is what makes it.
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>>93858301
Yea, I think only supers like Daredevil and agree Arrow would work in this setting.
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so basically, not supers, but norms with training?
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>>93847086

This dude got a site?
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>>93831303
>me
>hate Kamala Khan
I DON'T THINK SO!
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>>93831359
>autistic manchildren hate under sexualizzed actual female characters
>love an autistic mute highly sexualized female "character" that walks around stark naked on multiple occasions
Sad!
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>>93858487
Go back to tumblr
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>>93858563
>That pose with the cape
What a dork
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>>93858606
Nooooo!
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>>93828646
at least it no Gwenpool

holy fuck I like her but that is some new level of autism
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>>93834156
>The constant fuck ups while spelling christmas
>The giving up and just signing cass

Fuck I love the small details
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>>93858968
I find the constant Raven threads to be much worse to be honest.
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>>93859024
yeah maybe its just me I never cared about Raven myself but I appreciate Gwenpool and have a substantial nostalgia boner for Cass (and Steph) so those threads never bothered me.

The Gwenpool threads seem to be damn contant and of little substance 90% of the time
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>>93858985
It would be hilarious if Tim still had to crossdress in an infiltration mission with Cass because the female role required technical or literary skills. Cass would have to cross-dress as well for reasons.
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>>93859051
>The Gwenpool threads seem to be damn contant and of little substance 90% of the time
You clearly haven't gone to a Raven thread then.
At least Gwenpool threads talk about the comic and news about Gwen, on top of the general autism, waifu posting and people going to the threads just to call it garbage, even if by virtue of it currently having a run.
Raven threads are a constant 24 hours of anons reposting Raven fanart which is mostly Teen Titans cartoon Raven, waifu posting and ass worship until the thread dies and someone makes another one.
Don't get me wrong, I couldn't really care less about these characters beyond their appearance and my experience with these threads stem from me being bored, but if talking autism and annoyance, I'd say Raven threads win, hands down.
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>>93828579
>Barbara is for barbarians.
Nigga what?
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>>93859228
>Posts 3DPD
You're deserving of that title.
But there was really no need to start shit like OP did.
barbarian or rice farmer, we're all brothers in our love of Batgirls
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She looks a lot like Orphan wtf
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>>93846505
>>93846755
O have to agree that all the ships just don't vibe with me. She seems so focused and honed that sex and romance aren't even on her radar, she doesn't even see men that way, or women for that matter. IF she EVER found someone to love (and that's a big if) it would be someone who reminds her of herself, of something that she lost in her childhood, a very special guy who awakens something inside her that she had forgotten. Probably best to make an original character, not a super at all.
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>>93859826
>IF she EVER found someone to love (and that's a big if) it would be someone who reminds her of herself, of something that she lost in her childhood, a very special guy who awakens something inside her that she had forgotten.
>Probably best to make an original character, not a super at all.
>I ship Cass with my OC donut steel self insert.
Please be shitposting.
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>>93859660
I really hope that one of the last things that Tynion does before leaving TEC is give Cass a new costume and code name.
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>>93860018

I get the feeling he will. He has two obvious big arcs for Cass: Ra's\Shiva II and the fall of Clayface.
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>>93859188
Yeah I agree, I'm a total Raven-fag, but I gotta admit that those threads aren't even with clicking on anymore.
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>>93859893
Wuts wrong with making an original character for some romance on the side? When official writers do it it's fine, but a fan tries to do it, it's automatically a shitty self insert marysue? I wasn't even purposing a set character beyond that it's just NOT a super...
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>>93837019
Sauce?
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>>93848369
I think Dick is better for JL stuff while Cass is best suited as the local batman.
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>>93859573
I wish that were the case. But I don't think the three Batgirls have very overlapping fandoms.
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>>93853963
ahahaha
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>>93838587
sauce?
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What was the issue where she finally fights Batman and is a barelly disguised metaphor for them having sex?
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>>93862359
intimacy =/= sex
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>>93861858
There can be only one.
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>>93862412
Yeah, but in that particular case =sex.

Which issue?
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>>93861858
I love all four too but Cass is my favorite of the four.
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>>93862189
http://starfleetbabe.tumblr.com/

Don't get your hopes up. It was a one off picture. But she draws a lot of Cass.
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>>93863370
I knew that style looked familiar.
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>>93847140
>>93847086
>>93847161
>>93847107

Where does Psu upload this stuff?
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>>93847908
thus lies the whitebread problem inherit with TIm
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>>93863305
I love all the Batgirls I can think of (depending on incarnation: n52/Burnside can butt out), but Steph is my fave, followed by Cass.
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>>93838238
>this will never happen
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>>93857530
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>>93864346
My personal ranking is Cass=Steph>The other one
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I can take some requests if anyone haves any
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>>93865001
Cass & Steph watching a horror movie. Steph is freaking out, Cass doesn't get it. Make it cute. you know, if you want to.
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>>93864927
Cass Batgirl behind with she turning the head, focus on her butt.
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>>93862359
#50.
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>>93828579
Batman: Dark Tomorrow has Cass in a cutscene with Tim Robin:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v1BJ7Y5b5uk

Dark Tomorrow is forgotten now but when this game was announced there was a lot of hype around because it was based on the comics instead of the movies, it was Arkham Asylum before Arkham Asylum.
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>>93863946
From a /aco/ thread awhile back.
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>>93866751
Yeah, I remember. It was exclusive to the GameCube and original Xbox I think.

It was the first big Batman game that wasn't based on the movies or the Animated Series but only the current Comics, so there was Cass Batgirl, Tim Robin, Oracle, the game was supposed to be a success but it had awful gameplay. The story at least was more comicbook-y than the Rocksteady trilogy.
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>>93866925
I just remember the fight with Ra's.
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>>93831428
>>93831748
Reminds me of that comic that got posted on /aco/ on mothers day and the author jumped in and said he wasn't even mad. I've been meaning to check out that guys patreon. I think a WW issue was coming out next?
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Cass, Shiva, and Karate Kid are the only people that can learn Hokuto Shin Ken or Nanto Sei Ken.

In my headcannon, Raoh is her real father by blood, but Shuu is the real man raises her and teaches her to be a good person. Kenshiro is her uncle and mentor.
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>>93868841
It's just got good on the fifth or sixth page.
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>>93861858
I like Babs as Oracle and generally hate her as Batgirl. Steph is overall a horrible character, but I did like her interactions with Damian.
Cass is easily the best Bat-related character to be made these last 20 years.
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>>93861858
Stephanie and Cassandra used too. But then Stephanie got an ongoing and basically Cass got rear-ended by editorial. So that caused the rift. If anything editorial is to blame for the three way rift.
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>>93869050

Still love to see fan art of that type of crossover.
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>>93869120
What his patreon?
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>>93871777
https://www.patreon.com/sexyversecomics
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>>93861858
Which is why DC should give the title of Batgirl to Cass and Steph alongside Babs. It's not like characters haven't shared a title before and it would satisfy the majority of fans. Also a team book starring all three called Batgirls would sell like hotcakes.
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>>93873354
I think a cartoon with all the batgirls would be great
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>>93873354
Yes it would. Unless the writer sucked.
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>>93830467
nah she was ruined before damien happened, but his presence did make it harder for her to be brought back properly when they have such similar shticks
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>>93874088
I blame it more on the editors who hated her and of course Beechen.
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>>93865001
Cass being bad ass.
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>>93875154
Is this bad ass enough for you?
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>>93875662
How about this?
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>>93875712
So bad ass.
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>>93875745
Almost too bad ass.
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>>93875767
Would be even more bad ass is Cass was the prince but still pretty bad ass.
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>>93875795
Just being a bad ass at home.
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>>93875820
And a bad ass day at the gym.
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>>93875848
Nothing like a bad ass nap after a hard day at the gym.
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Its too bad the Steph/Cass friendship is more of a fandom thing than the comics itself, especially nowadays
ITs sucha damn shame, the Batfamily has such potential and is so interesting, but it keeps getting cut down by boring dorks who want Batman to be a loner and want to simplify the batfamily. and it never works, it just leads to the batfamily spreading with more characters and stomping over existing ones. I guess thats why I liked the pre-52 Batverse so much, it was starting to feel more concise, though in the last few years its gotten better.
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>>93847263
Cass' scars were even a prominent thing in her own series they were mentioned a handful of times and only drawn when needed. We saw her in a bikini with hardly a scratch. It was in Batman and the Outsiders when she got the infamous scars shown for the first time, and that was long after her resurrection.
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Am I the only one who hates her Orphan costume?
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>>93876858
the lack of bat ears is the only thing holding this costume back
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>>93876858
>>93877050
The name Orphan is dumb too. They should just let Babs go back to being Oracle
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>>93875872
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>>93878095
What the hell was wrong with Black Bat?
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>>93870230
Yeah. That's a big part of the split for Cass fans, and then for me as a Steph fan, the way they reacted caused me to draw back from Cass.
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>>93878379

Pulp character and currently a comic published by Dynamite.
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>>93879421
Cass new codename should be Flamebird.
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>>93880190
Kryptonian?
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>>93875848
This would make me pick up Batgirl, at least for an arc, if Babs teamed up with Steph and Cass for a bit.
First time all three Batgirls were fighting together, at least as far as I know of.
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>>93881599
The original Batgirl became Flamebird.
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>>93876311
Tynion doesn't seem to have much use for Cass and Steph as friends since Steph was so busy snogging Tim and left the team after he "died" and Harper is horribly entangled in Cass' backstory.
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>>93888029
Red Robin Cass? Hmmm.
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>>93888085
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>>93888195
That looks more like Black Bat Cass.
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>>93853736
who is she blowing?
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I like this alternate costume better than her shitty orphan outfit. Also her new code name sucks utter balls.
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>>93889484
I was thinking she should be called White Canary with a little costume color change.

The original white canary in birds of prey had lots of fan theories among fans that she was actually Cas. Comic white canary even had the same origin of being raised as an assassin. Except she ends up killing her brothers the twelve brothers in silk. Mixmatch that origin with her current "Mother" created her origin and we can have an awesome Cass costume with a cool code name.
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>>93889385
Tim.
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>>93889568
She was supposed to be Cass. That was the original idea Simone and Tucci had. Then Grant Morrison overrode that with Black Bat.
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>>93889648
Sauce on that?
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>>93830467

> I think Damien Wayne creation it was made DC nuked her

Correction, Damien was also made as a writers own fanfiction Mary Sue self-insert, which it is in such a blatant, painfully obvious way.
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>>93889840
I don't know who is worse. Damian Haters or Damifags.


Morrison introduced Damian on purpose to be a little shit that the fan base hated. He wanted to kill him off in his first appearance. After his first "death" he decided to bring him BACK so he can do the whole "audience falls in love with the jerkass who has a heart of gold" character arc and then kill him.

There was no mary-sue insert you dumbfuck.
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>>93858452
sauce?
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>>93889606
Is there a full version?
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After issue 20 when the writers wrote in they random days ex machina to give her language she became just another garbage generic character.
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>>93890968
> #20

She met Stephanie? Wut?
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>>93890968
Don't think this is Damifag, but they are clearly a hater of Cass. And don't know much about her actual series, since the language-meta was much earlier.
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>>93890968
It happened at issue #5 I think.
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>>93889648
>Then Grant Morrison overrode that with Black Bat.

The funny thing is that DC can't use the Black Bat name since it belongs to a 30s pulp character of Dynamite.
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>>93888277
I'm pretty sure that is supposed to be a Nightwing costume.
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>>93853971
Idgaf about the logic behind it just call me when Cass, Steph, and Tim are back.
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>>93862359
>she finally fights Batman
>she fights Batman

Anon, your memory is bad. The issue had Batman being under the effect of Super Anger 'roids of (Dr.)Death and running away scared shitless from an as much as drugged Cass.

It wasn't a fight, it was trying to survive.
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>>93876858
too much yellow, lack of bat-ears and stupid name.

Rebirth should retcon Cain back to being Best Dad
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Cass a shit. Steph is the best Batgirl by a mile.

Don't (You) me, you know I'm right.
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>>93895099
Yes, Cass and Steph are indeed best Bat Girl.
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>>93895099
Nope.
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>>93836958
I like this.
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>>93894495
Hnnngh
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>>93873354
>>93873638
Batgirls needs to happen with Batwoman as team leader.
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>>93896280
Please no Batlesbianjew ruined the Batfamily, the whole Military backgound, lesbianism and Kikes feel forced as fuck. One of the main reason for Cass being nuked.
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