ITT: Webcomics that went from Great to Ruined

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>starts out strong, great background stories
>amazing read
>background characters are 20x more interesting than the main character and the story focuses on them

all major plot points were abandoned to focus on the main character being a little bitch and the only thing left resolved is his relationship which he doesn't deserve to have and the series ends on that

inb4 300+ posts of everyone bitching about Paranatural

>>93810153
come on anon rock cocks isn't ruined its just boring and predicable as fuck

>>93810153
Explain why to someone who never read this book.

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>>93810153
Started off with a simple bounty hunter story in a DnD meet old west world, but after the first fight between Kit and Jeanne it became pretty obvious the author was just throwing as much shit as he could at the wall hoping something would stick.

Guess it's a good thing it's dead now.

RPG World still has the worst "ending" I've ever seen in a webcomic.

> We made it to the final boss
> But fuck it I'm bored. Game Over.

>>93810153

More like shit to okay to boring nowadays. It's still better than the original comic which was just unsexy and poorly paced.

Sinfest

hamsteak

Name five webcomics that lasted over one year that didn't go to shit eventually.

I suspect the only ones that haven't are the ones who release the stories "one book at a time" and take a long time between uploads because of it.

>>93810353
Fuck I haven't thought of that comic in years, but now that I do I'm mad all over again.

Also, Diane a best. Cherry was overrated.

Rock Cocks was never really that great. Blaster Nation, on the other hand, was definitely a comic that had a disappointing ending. The ending was suddenly announced and was rushed as hell, and it's clear that Brad and Leslie did so to focus on solely Rock Cocks.

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>>93810247
I'd say Zack accomplished his goal pretty well

>>93810153
Man Twokinds was so great till TRUMP ruined it.

>>93810346
It was literally just a side project to keep the artist busy while Brian Cleivanger took his sweet ass time writing How I Killed Your Master

>>93810346
Oh my god a strong female lead how PROGRESSIVE

Glad this stupid SJW crap died.

>>93810446
>Twokinds was so great till TRUMP ruined it
What? I don't recall the comic taking any specific swerves due to that.

>>93810386
LFG
Dr. McNinja
And I don't have any more because I really don't go perusing webcomics.

>>93810486
LFG is absolute garbage you troglodyte.

>>93810415
Fucking this. I don't understand why they threw away such a great series with so much potential to focus on their shitty porn. It baffles me how all the great characterization of BN was replaced with the shitty duo of Punk Girl #78 and the non-character.

>>93810415
To Brads credit at least, he's one of the few webcomic creators who dived into the Lions Den of /co/ for a question time long after the point where the thing to do for Twitter Cred was to publically disown it (see: that tweet from Zack a few posts above)

I hope Brad and Leslie hit their stride in Rock Cocks because they seem like their in the nice people section of webcomics makers. I see the potential, I think they just made them successful too quickly.

>>93810234
Ugh, don't even get on Girls of the Wild. Your right it started out strong then just fell apart later on for who know's why.

>>93810433
>he added a bunch of gay characters because he thought that would make us hate him
>Instead his own inability to write a story that didn't suck and more or less killing his own webcomic is what made us hate him

If you kill yourself, you win

>>93810601
Not if someone has a life insurance policy, then they win and you are just the runner up with your comfy dirt bed

>>93810601
>Write a bunch gay characters
>suddenly more gay porn
At least there's something lasting in that smoldering legacy.

>>93810484
Fuck you're right it was trash from day 1 my bad

>>93810415
Blaster Nation could've been a less (or more?) insane version of Eltingville, I wish it never ended.

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>>93810279
It started out as a couple of deadbeats voyeurs throwing out their normal life to attempt a life as rock stars; then after winning a battle of the bands, a sexual deviant producer decides to pick them up, using them as a ploy to change social norms.

Meanwhile, the producer's ex (who is also a producer) is trying to ruin his life by being better than him, and although the past several months have been plotless, it was implied she was going to use a band to try and restrict and scrutinize sexuality in the public eye just to go against him. (Though, she chose a rival band to the titular Rock Cocks, who have their own sexual quirks.)

Now, the plot is literally just, 'Oops, something small went wrong. Let's have sex in public to solve it. Everyone is having sex constantly.' Then everything is solved and everything continues to go their way until the next minor hiccup which is resolved with more sex. Now, they've even added a third person to their group as a Roadie who they're trying to convince to fuck the girl but he just wants to watch.

It's just so boring now. The art may have gotten better, but nothing is happening.

>>93810744
Should they go full Jem and the hollograms crazy? Some sort of battle of the bands between bands of various deviances?

>>93810744
>Let's have sex in public to solve it. Everyone is having sex constantly.'
Sounds AWFUL, anon. Who would want sex in a porn comic?

>>93810386
>Unsounded - heavy world building serial comic with a strong ongoing plot and character arcs
>Gunnerkrigg Court - episodic slice of life type story with a lot of background plots but more of a focus on the day to day ongoings of the main characters in a school setting
>Oglaf - Fantasy Gag a week NSFW
>Awkward Zombie - Videogame gag a week comic SFW
>Let's Learn English - Autobio teaching in Japan comic (finished)

There. Covers a wide range of genres and types of comics, though the serial stories lean more towards fantasy. Scifi seems rarer in webcomics, and good scifi even rarer. Probably something to do with the art side of things, and having less real world visuals to draw from. Outsider is great, but has an average of fucking 7.5 pages per year over 16 fucking years.

>>93810744
It's almost as if it's a thinly veiled vehicle for voyeur spank material rather than a creative work building towards a compelling narrative.

Personally can't wait for Shad's reinterpretation of Othello.

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>>93810797
No, I mean, we already had that in the beginning. I want to see the characters deal with things; the bands new found popularity and how they handle it, the secretary dealing with his crush on the boss and not just whining, the boss realizing how his big decisions are impacting people and how it's effecting the band as he attempts to mold them. I want to see how the rival band develops and the public's decision between the two mindsets. How the sexual afflictions of certain characters actually manifest as a problem and how they work it out. I want development and action in the characters lives.

>>93810815
>>93810871
>Porn Comic
>Spank Material

If I wanted that, I'd just go read one of Jab's comics, where literally every character is accidentally having sex with everything that breathes and it's just a thing. Rock Cocks at least started with a good plot and concept, even if it's a little cliche. It had a narrative that was interesting and characters I could enjoy reading about. The sex was well depicted, sure, and it was a part of it; it's part of the reason for the story and something the reader is supposed to get from reading it. Part of it's meaning. But it wasn't just meant to be porn at first, they were trying to tell a story about sex. It's why the artist has tried 3 different times to write the same comic. They have a story to tell. But, it obviously hasn't worked out this late in the game. 300+ pages later. Look how much Scott Pilgrim, a similar story, had developed by that point. The artist is great at the art, just not the story telling I guess.

>>93810871
If I had the money, and a burning hate for english majors, I would commision shadbase alternative covers for major works of classic literature. Moby Dick, A chrismas carol, Gulivers travels, Little women, lord of the flies, the scarlet letter, ect.

My shakeperian choice would probably have been The Tempest though. But the Big Black Moor is a more than obvious choice.

>>93810234
Shame. Last time I checked, it was a really fun comic.

>>93810904
>good plot
Yes, it is a good plot if you are trying to justify characters fucking wild and roughshod constantly.
It was created to serve that end, not the other way around.
The story is being told with every faggot/cripple/black/white/red/brown/purple/and yellow motherfucker they rail because the story is "X number of consenting adults" and "Society glorifies violence yet shuns sexuality, ain't that ass backwards!?!".

At this point the greatest risk to the writing is to take itself too fucking seriously, which it already comes dangerously close time to time. At some point they're going to have to out-sing and out-sex a Dr. Frank N. Furter knockoff or it'll all be for naught.

>>93810153
What was that one comic that did a complete 180º on the characters, i remember that it was a demon that it fell in love with a bookworm type of kid, was a really cute comic

>>93810601
I don't think even Tumblr likes it anymore.

>>93810353
It wasn't the final boss. They still had a whole disc left

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>>93810153
I can't remember the last time I've seen a webcomic nosedive this hard

>>93810433
Wasn't he super into the fact /co/ figured out the one doorman puzzle first?

>>93811574
Sinfest? It's always just been an outlet for whatever the author was obsessed with at the time

>>93811574
We don't mention its name here sinfest

>>93810576
Brad's an old school /v/ tripfag though.

>>93811654
>>93811661
It's a shame really, i liked the early issues of the comic

>>93810433
I think he wanted to become selectively unpatalable to 4chan, not unpalatable at all

>>93811698
What's really interesting is he apparently can't bring himself to fuck with Crimney, the nerd, unlike everyone else in the comic, so he's just sort of been sidelined. I check up with it every so often to see what's happening with him and Fushia. The day he fucks with that is probably the day I stop checking all together.

>>93811718
>he apparently can't bring himself to fuck with Crimney
Really?
Tell me, what did he changed with Fushia?

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VGcats stopped being funny when it became a merch shilling machine and the punchline is always Aerith is a psychotic cunt.

>>93810595
no, please get started. I'd love to hear someone else bitch about it.
I want a formal apology for this ending. Where's Jaegu's mom? why did best girl moonyoung get cucked? why is Jaegu such a bitch? these are all questions that I need answered

>>93811805
>The porn parody updated more frequently than the original
Always makes me laugh

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Only ruined by death itself.

>>93811805
VGcats by this point is like a farmer stumbling upon stone tablets of a lost civilization while plowing his field. It's just too old hat

>>93811644
Everything went to shit after that train ride. It didn't happen all at once, but the cracks started to pop up pretty quick. Once Zack started dishing out shallow ploys to attract the Tumblr audience, I knew it was over. Who needs competency when you can coast along on scoring morality points by being a "socially progressive" content creator? It worked for Jeph Jacques and Aaron Diaz!

>>93811784
Fushia's not much fucked with either, but she's been brought into the larger ongoing shit with the Feminist/fight the Patriarchy. Most of her stuff is without Crimney around, various sorts of devil PTSD and working with the whorebots and so on. Wrapped up in her art mostly and dealing with other female characters. If none of the other shit was happening, it would be an interesting sort of subplot on her expanding her character beyond "devil slut who fell in love with the virginal nerd" and dealing with her past. But because there's all that other stuff there's always the specter that things will take a turn.

Crimney shows up and is supportive and so on, but mostly just doesn't show up because obviously him doing so a lot sort of puts a damper on the rampant "Men are all selfish, perverted pigs at heart" sort of deal. The story simply doesn't show much of his and Fuschia's time together any more. The worst he got was he can't she the patriarchy matrix code. Which is a bad thing in comic, symbolic of privileged not seeing their priviledge and yadda yadda, but for the reader is likely not going to come across as being so heinous.

Did they fuck the roadie yet

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>>93811709
>Man! 4chan!
>That forum of violent, racist, misogynistic, homophobic bigots!
>I don't like them!
>I know! I'll make them not like me!
>Haha, here comes several DIVERSE characters and plot threads NO ONE ASKED FOR!
>Wait why does everyone hate me now

Not even social studies scientists trained for this shit can understand why we call eachother niggerfaggot and not literally mean a nigger thats a faggot.

>>93811904
>The Roadie

Son, you'll need to sit down for this.

That Roadie is going to be the death of the comic

He is actually a FTM

>>93810433
>become unpalatable to 4chan
>also become unpalatable to everyone else
You played yourself, Z-Man.

>>93810415
I kind of just lost interest in Blaster nation after kid who got out of the military just got shipped off and ignored
maybe i just have a soft spot for coming of age stories where he finally learns to deal with his problems and gets a job and all that

>>93811890
And David Willis!

When the red haired cunt isn't on screen, everyone should be asking "where's the red haired cunt"

>>93811597
Tumblr still likes it from what I've seen. They enjoyed the fuck outta the lesbian date and the "nonbinary" shit with RJ, other times they just post crops of funny expressions and tag them with "smol bean" or whatever

>>93811873
STILL THE BEST 1973

>>93811919
>Not even social studies scientists trained for this shit can understand why we call eachother niggerfaggot and not literally mean a nigger thats a faggot.
What, it's pretty simple anon. I lean more on the material side of things but it's pretty obvious it's tied into a kind of group rejection of social norms and general rabble rousing that has always existed in societies and was frequently embodied in a ritualistic fashion in things like jesters and clowns. Aside from that it's simple absurdism and metaphor.

>>93811890
Jeph definitively panders hard, but he's much more successful at drawing them in (in terms of $$$) despite the quality of everything in his comic. If you're going to pander like that at least make it lucrative

>>93811919
That gif becomes 10x funnier when you realize Seinfeld himself had a license for concealed carry weapons

>>93811900
I see, thanks for the info anon.
And i apologise for having you to read it for me, it can't have been nice, really appreciated.

>>93811926
Torn between an indifferent sense of "eh but did they fuck him yet" and a sense of betrayal of "you cheated me out of this twink AND the asian one?"

Not sure how to feel desu pops.

>>93811967
I read it for myself, when I'm in the mood to wade through the shit just to keep up on a cliche subplot about nerd wishfulfillment from happier days of the comic. Which has been for awhile now. I think I've even been saving the relevant strips to add to a collection of Fuschia and Crimney set that someone posted some time ago. For the inevitable day it all ends one way or another, mostly. But who knows? Hope springs eternal and maybe everything will work out.

>>93811952
It may seem simple to you because you're apart of it, but everyone outside this hellhole can't fathom anything we do.
Oh sure, /pol/memes, doy, but that's more or less just plebian bait.

>>93811978
It's really fucking bad, just look
http://rockcocks.slipshine.net/

I was hoping that it was a dude that got into the threesome but was bi and got fucked by the big dude or fucked his girlfriend.

Yet this is just garbage

>>93812026
Ugh that's gross

>>93811926
So uh, that doesn't answer the question

>Did they fuck the roadie yet

>>93812026
disgusting

>>93812045
Read the damn chapter, you lazy shit

>>93811926
Leslie and Brad mentioned the roadie being FtM months ago, so anyone being surprised by it now is a faggot.

>>93812056
It's still gross

>>93811822
It basically had potential to be something great. Good art, cliche intro plot but with a unique enough spin, excellent supporting cast with interesting developments. Having the MC never become some kind of powerhouse or genius was a solid move I still respect. Jae Gu's character was never about physical strength, it was just something to help him develop emotional strength. But he just never got to a point where the reader could be satisfied with him. They shouldn't have dragged his development out for so long. And in the end it ended up being completely run-of-the-mill and pandering to it's base cliches instead of trying to be something more.

Honestly it felt like the author had more elaborate plans for this comic. Rereading the first half I feel like there was a framework being laid out to pull off some unexpected developments. Somewhere along the way I think he got cold feet and copped out on any risky directions he had in mind and decided to just go with the safest route.

>>93812056
But for what purpose? other than tumblr shilling

>>93811650
Apparently around mid 2012, he had a girlfriend who was also a comic writer (so obviously she'd be a tumblr user) That was also around the time when his art really turned to shit

>>93810153
HEY GAMERS

>>93810234
agreed 100%

Its so disappointing because I loved the art and the energy but I lost so much interest after a certain point

>>93812150
from my understanding, he read the reader comments and more often than not, korean fans were bitching about jaegu. In response to that, he kept trying to change his character (for the worse) and in the end, the once noble jaegu was now a sniveling pathetic blob.

Its weird to me how ok so many people were with that ending, outside the fact they didn't kiss. He absolutely played the "safe" (but unsatisfying route) that most fans didn't ask questions outside of "WHERES THE KISS" others asking why he didn't get with "so and so" instead.

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People talking about writing in the porn comics, that's rich. Anyway, after 190 page or something, art just gone full tumblr. I can't fap to this.

>>93812511

They have a point though.

If you want porn without plot, there's a million billion zillion porn comics out there.

But porn with an actual plot and character arcs? Bit more rare.

>>93810744
So a porn webcomic is bad because it has porn. Oh dear.

>>93812547
The porn doesn't make it bad. The fact it had a plot and then suddenly doesn't is what makes it bad.

>>93810260
worse, it's SLOW AS FUCK.
with a faster pace it would be an average porn webcomic.
just ignore it for a year and then read the archives.

>>93812547

I'm kind of a fan of the comic myself, and I recognize it for what it is, but I feel like if there were about 50% more plot movement, the sex would be about 300% more entertaining because it would be an occasional and longed-for treat and moreover feature characters who we are given cause to care about on their own merits.

Too much of it and not enough of anything else is proving to be a detriment all around.

>>93810234
It stole the plot of Scott Pilgrim?

>>93812527

Alfie does it just fine and still managed to have a lot of porn.

>>93812527
I mean when there porn in something, everything else becomes irrelevant. That's the reason why it's so rare. Why even bother when 99% of people just skipping everything until porn. Lots of people probably drop it by now, but I guess they don't care. There is like patreon and shit.

>>93810904
If the Rock Cocks wasn't an ongoing porn webcomic series and was instead perhaps some kind of Fantagraphics adult title then yeah, I might agree with this anon. The turn anon wants for this story would basically suck all the joy out of the plot and no one would fuck for the rest of the series.

>>93811090
However, this anon gets it.
The "plot" comes before the plot.
No, it's not a Jab Comic but it aint no Love and Rockets, either. It's walking the line inbetween where the story has to continue without completely closing all it's options.

Think of it as Dragon Ball Z, only instead of fights the plot builds towards fucks.

>>93812672
I tried reading Alfie once.

If man-faced midgets did it for me, I might could have enjoyed...

>>93812402
I thought he was gay.

>>93812185
>>93812056
Roadie ticks my fetish for tomboys, dykes and hairy girls and delicious brown.
Brad and Leslie deserve an Eisner.
InCase should draw lewds of the Roadie.

>>93812732
gays can have gfs, anon. It's in The Constitution.

>>93812770
I've never seen incase do anything weird but traps and futa. Cuntguys just look weird as fuck.

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>>93812801
>Cuntguys just look weird as fuck.
but that's basically how he draws normal girls anyway??

>>93810744
Wow. A lot sure happened ever since I left this comic with them just entering the producer's office.

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obligatory

>>93812869

It's easy to see how the author might have lost his passion for the projects after some crooked developers cheated him out of a couple of million dollars and left him holding the bag. Could YOU keep your joyful enthusiasm for the project intact in that scenario?

>>93810153

I'm mention Sinfest here, but I know that doing so means that a mod will delete the thread within the next few minutes, so let's forego that topic.

>>93812185
Because you can have character development and kinky porn? There's really nothing tumblr about him/her.

>>93810454
>How I Killed Your Master
And now that's dead for good.

Dammit, Clev.

>>93812869
Goddammit. Years later and this still pisses me off. What the fuck was he thinking.

Strong Female Protagonist.

>>93810153
>>93812511

The art really is the capper to how dowhnill TRC has gone. I'm not sure it's even arousing anymore.

>>93810486
>LFG
Are you insane?
>Dr McNinja
Now this I agree with.

>>93811847
>The porn parody

Whait, what?

>>93810234
Did you also feel the art got lazier like really lazy as the comic progressed?

>>93812672
>Alfie does it just fine
Alfie sacrifices any potential to be a good story because of the constant need for porn.

They hint that Marco's stressing about Alfie not wanting more? Forget that drama, have a threesome!

>>93810601
I stopped reading it a long time ago, what happened that the writing turned to shit? I was always annoyed with the slow pacing of it.

>>93812869
What's this?
>inb4 newfag
I don't read many webcomics so i don't know much

>>93812710
>but it aint no Love and Rockets
>unironically liking Love and Rockets
Man, I didn't know I was browsing /u/.

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Why K.C. Green became such a pansy?

>>93813057
>There's really nothing tumblr about him/her.
I want you to read that sentence again and think about how bullshit it is.

>>93813261
SJW's apparently.

>>93810744
>reading a porn comic for the plot
It's autism.

>>93811090
>Society glorifies violence yet shuns sexuality, ain't that ass backwards!?!
I'll never understand this gripe. Why do they bitch about fake, overdone violence but desire real sexuality?

Do they not realize that rampant, public sexuality is bad? Or that sex is still, at the core, about making kids?

>>93813275
>proper grammar is /tumblr/

>>93810829
>Gunnerkrigg Court - episodic slice of life type story with a lot of background plots but more of a focus on the day to day ongoings of the main characters in a school setting
Unless you don't like lesbians. There's a lot of lesbians.

>>93813317
Well, I didn't know it was a porn comic when I started reading it. I thought it was a regular comic that just happened to feature sex.

>>93813409
You know that's not the point I was making.

>>93810234
If I read this, when should I stop? What chapter?

>>93813248
it's from Homestuck, the last webcomic made by Andrew Hussie (same guy who did Bard's Quest and Problem Sleuth if you've heard of those)

if you've never seen any MSPA comics, the gimmick was that readers would submit "commands" to the characters and the author would use the commands to dictate where the story goes.

don't wanna spoil it since I still think it's worth a read, but needless to say not many people were happy with the way the comic ended. many still consider the first 5 acts to be some of the best story in webcomics though

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>>93813261
Not sure but I just cannot get into anything he does lately. He's KC-Green'ing way too hard.

>>93813424
Wouldn't it be great if those existed?

>>93811090
DEPICTIONS of things are always good, especially things like sex and violence that should only be done in special circumstances, but are always enjoyable when you do them even when it's wrong. Best to get your jollies on those vicariously. the hypocrisy is that it's considered wrong to spy on people or catch footage of 17 year olds, yet we watch voyeur footage of murders every day on the news

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>>93813598
Best pic to describe his situation right now

>>93813577
i'll give it a shot then, and no i haven't heard those two, are they good?

>>93813169
I think it's only gotten better. I wanted it to be more like their other comic all along

no, the problem is they tossed in a fucking tranny. The whole point of this comic is enjoying acceptability of seeing human bodies, why would we want to be reminded of someone who's "in the wrong body" ? i mean yeah a lot of people support those fuckers, but we all support people with cancer and shit too, doesnt mean it doesn't bring everything down when they show up in a genre meant to be happy.

>>93813782
Like it or not, the sex positive free love movement is steeped in LGBT shit. That includes the T. When you want to advocate degeneracy you don't get to pick where it stops.

>>93813816
i don't advocate any of that shit, that's the point.
but for the record, when the hippies first came out it was solidly 'it's natural for men to be leaders, and men and women belong together, that's fucking yin and yang and all that natural shit' thinking.
we need sex to become "look, don't touch" instead of "touch whatever you want but for GOD'S SAKE don't draw it, talk about it, and if you film it you're in legal trouble"

>>93810904
>But it wasn't just meant to be porn at first, they were trying to tell a story about sex.
sounds like porn.

>>93813853
go watch Nymphomaniac. I think that's the title. Fucking fantastic movie that makes nothing but solid points, and disturbs you in just the right way in the process. that is a movie about sex but ho damn is it not porn.

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>>93813275
>Tumblr invented trans people

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>>93813773
yeah they're good too, might be better off starting with Problem Sleuth actually it's a much lighter read than the 10,000 page ridiculousness that is homestuck

>>93813782
>The whole point of this comic is enjoying acceptability of seeing human bodies, why would we want to be reminded of someone who's "in the wrong body"

You couldn't be more self-contradictory bruh

>>93813876
>porn with edgy plot is not porn

>>93813847
>but for the record, when the hippies first came out it was solidly 'it's natural for men to be leaders, and men and women belong together, that's fucking yin and yang and all that natural shit' thinking.
I call bullshit on that. The hippy movement was a rejection of norms, hence the drugs, music and all the free sex. And all of those had consequences, yet we glorify the fuck out of those flower children.

>we need sex to become "look, don't touch" instead of "touch whatever you want but for GOD'S SAKE don't draw it, talk about it, and if you film it you're in legal trouble"
The divide between sex and violence is easy, anon. Violence is hard, and most people can't fathom the idea of doing it. The human body freaks out about it, and it's almost always a scarring moment mentally.
Sex is easy to have, and people are naturally drawn to it. And yet the irony? Reckless sex is far more destructive to a society than violence ever could be.

Violence cuts the leaves. Sex kills the roots.

>>93813882
No, trans was invented by a child molesting pseudo scientist who used a horrific accident to push his failed theory. This also resulted in the suicides of both his ginuea pigs.

>>93813882
Tumblr has basically co-opted transexuality as a whole. They've done to transexuals what furries did to werewolves. One might say Tumblr has appropriated transexuality.

I know at least one transexual who fucking detests Tumblr for setting back social acceptance by several decades.

>>93813898
I will. thanks for the suggestion.

>>93813960
Trans wasn't invented by the pedo, the concept of gender as a separate, wholly-psychological social construct was invented by the pedo. The body dysmorphia of transexuals was around before that, and actually has some medical foundation, unlike the oogie-boogie magical think which fuels the concept that gender is separate from one's biological sex.

>>93814115
>gender
Is society
>sex
Is biology

>>93814065
>I know at least one transexual who fucking detests Tumblr for setting back social acceptance by several decades.
Worse. Transexuality as an acceptance/social issue has stopped any chance on further study of how to treat it as a medical issue.

Judging by the suicide rates transitioning doesn't help, and we'll never actually get to see if anti-psychotics work because it's the new gay.

>>93814115
True. But it was thought of as a mental order before good 'ole Johnny boy. By making the gender/sex distinction it made things political.

>>93814153
But the second creates the first.

>>93813960
>>93814115
oh wow I didn't know that guy was the first to come up with that shit
don't forget, he actually reccommended a circumcision method he knew was problematic, so as to raise the accidentally mutilated boys as girls.

the hilarious thing is the main part of his theory was right, and I wholly advocate it: that you raise kids neutrally because they're nothing when they're kids. it just falls apart at puberty, where who you really are asserts itself, and every study confirms this.. but they conveniently leave that part out because it unravels their whole fucked up concept

>>93813931
>edgy
naw, legit. as in 'talked into abortion by some fucked up doctor, then another doctor tries to tell her what she did was just fine, but she insists it was the worst thing she ever did and carries the mental and physical scars for the murder' legit.

>>93814174
>the hilarious thing is the main part of his theory was right, and I wholly advocate it: that you raise kids neutrally because they're nothing when they're kids.
Except that didn't work. David still preferred traditionally masculine toys and activities, and often had to be forced to act as a girl.

>>93814153
No. Both are biological, and the concept that they're separate is a baseless falsehood on par with thinking vaccines cause autism, but only one of these has been latched onto by the "intellectual elite" and proliferated to the detriment of many.

>>93813960
hippie movement was about rejecting the completely arbitrary "traditional" 50s shit which came fully-formed out of nowhere with no actual traditional root, and try to get back to genuine humanity.
they just.. most of them weren't following jesus (but lots were) so they didn't have any kind of anchorpoint for determining what the natural human lifestyle was. Some of them assumed it was constant random sex. NOPE. that's just bad hygiene if nothing else. but they got the nudity and racial integration thing right.
and no, violence is natural. it's awesome, it's fun, and it has to be done. sometimes. but when it's not, it's the worst thing to do. So pretty much like sex.

but yeah look it up. it's a "Criticism" of the hippie movement by modern lefties. "They were all still misogynists and homophobes" they'll say.

>>93814189
>hand fucks a pedo because she's a slut and knows these things
>goes on to fuck a kid she's just been watching play sports for a while
>murders an edgy priest who whipped out his dick because for some reason he forgot his vows and was going to fuck the murderous pedo nympho who raped kids and pedos

it was an edgy porno

>>93812150
>Honestly it felt like the author had more elaborate plans for this comic
He clearly did. He setup stuff with the boxing guy, twin tail girls, and those three elite ladies that iirc were Queen's original endgame. Not to mention Jae's personal development and home life. But they pulled the plug on that entirely to focus on terrible romance that made no sense, and sweeping his home problems under the rug by having the little bro buy out the apartment.

>>93814201
that's not how I remember it, but.. girls always have to be forced to 'act like girls'. modern gender traditions are backwards as fuck.
but kids are still the same til their glands kick in. there's stories about this shit all over the world, especially the "ambiguous" ones where they didnt just do a fucking karyotype and check for XX or XY.. they evidently flipped a coin, the kid went with whatever they were assigned, then at puberty they knew what they really were

>>93810234
How did it end?

>>93814209
I mean, it was worth checking to make sure vaccines didn't cause autism. obviously SOMETHING is (psst, it's probably how much later people are having kids, and/or the refusal to spank them). just like it was worth making sure psychic powers weren't real. gubmint put real money behind that study just to get it out of the way.
and really, we do need to improve vaccines, because right now there's a lot that they should have accomplished, with such widespread adoption, that they haven't. they have improved how dead the virus inside is, though.

>>93814245
... is it possible I got the title wrong and we're talking about different movies?

>>93814307
>the refusal to spank them
>causing autism

hahahaha

>>93811958
Go back to tumblr you faggot

>>93814065
Tumblr has co-opted transexuality on English-speaking internet, which isn't everything. And none of the insane stuff Tumblr brought in, like a billion snowflake pronouns, is present in Rock Cocks so far.

>>93814243
>hippie movement was about rejecting the completely arbitrary "traditional" 50s shit which came fully-formed out of nowhere with no actual traditional root, and try to get back to genuine humanity.
But the 50's culture was a logically progression of the early 1900's culture. To say it has no cultural root is foolish.
>they just.. most of them weren't following jesus (but lots were) so they didn't have any kind of anchorpoint for determining what the natural human lifestyle was.
History textbooks existed in the 50's.
>and no, violence is natural. it's awesome, it's fun, and it has to be done. sometimes. but when it's not, it's the worst thing to do. So pretty much like sex.
Maybe small amounts of violence. I'm talking hardcore violence that people say are glorified. Stuff like killing, maiming, blood. Most people can't do that stuff, so it remains a fantasy.

But most people can and do have sex, and lots of meaningless sex with no commitment rots a society at it's core: the family unit.

>>93814279
>that's not how I remember it, but.. girls always have to be forced to 'act like girls'. modern gender traditions are backwards as fuck.
Not for the majority. Look at how badly lego failed when they wanted to market to girls. Girls and boys are different from the day they're born. Literally, male babies are more drawn to objects whilst female babies are more drawn to faces and people.
>but kids are still the same til their glands kick in.
But those "glands" kick in before birth. The male and female brain are not the exact same.

>there's stories about this shit all over the world, especially the "ambiguous" ones where they didnt just do a fucking karyotype and check for XX or XY.
Exceptions and mistakes do exist, yes. But what proves the rule again?

>>93814319
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymphomaniac_(film)#8._.22The_Gun.22
it's possible.

>>93814307
>the refusal to spank kids causes autism

That's a theory no less ridiculous than the vaccine one.

>>93810386
Brawl in the Family, the fun dumb gag comic, was always good, and always will be no matter what.

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Now hear me out, they weren't the best but they were entertaining. Earie cuties was cute but fucked up when it turned the comedic/cute characters more straight lace see chloe/Nina. Magik chicks was actually pretty good but the plot went off the rails right at the end. Ma3 was a guilty pleasure but the comic simply has gone on for too damn long.

>>93814321
>>93814364
If you constantly beat up your kids, they have less chance to end up on 4chan, that's for sure.

>>93814434
Yeah and then they go get arrested

>>93814433
sorry anon.
OP said GREAT to Ruined. Not not Shit-but-fappable to Completely Unreadable.

>>93810744
>they're trying to convince to fuck the girl but he just wants to watch

Because he's trans. He doesn't have a dick to fuck her with.

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>that one anime webcomic with a shitload of cartoons shoved in it
>the main characters are grim and mandy's spawn

That was some fucking grade A autism.

>>93814904
bleedman?

that was never great

>>93810446
did you just refer to Twokinds as of it was ever a good webcomic on any level

>>93810433
What a coward.

>>93811919
>Wait why does everyone hate me now
Did it actually cost him that much of his fanbase?

>>93811928

not really though. everyone else is too blind to see how shit his comic is becoming. his artist friends just tell him he's super great at making comics and action scenes and etc, so maybe he doesn't even know. his patreon followers will throw money at him even if his update rate & art are turning to shit because of his glass wrist.

as long as he inserts stuff like lesbian dates, funny reaction images and lengthy explanations of what "nonbinary" is, he won't lose his fans. i honestly don't see the current situation ever getting better.

paranatural was fun while it lasted i guess

The first two chapters of Poppy were simple but enjoyable. It then began to stagnate, refusing to move beyond setup and failing to properly establish its focus.

>>93815246
Well people are complaining, but I don't think he has lost any significant number of visitors and patreon bucks yet.

>>93813212
The threesome happened precisely to provide Marco an alternative to the non-comnittal Alfie. Probably.

>>93815246
It cost him people who don't pay, which means nothing to him anymore.

>>93812687
At this point I'm skipping over the porn for the plot. It's the most bizarre feeling.

>>93815619
That's a total cop out, though. They were setting it up and fleshed out Marco's backstory and perspective to do so. Only to have it end in a threesome that resolves nothing.

Alfie is still solely committed to slutting it up, Marco just got lucky in that the alleged dyke was in love with him. It was a cop out on a major conflict for the sake of lackluster porn.

>>93811805
>and the punchline is always Aerith is a psychotic cunt.
That punchline was pretty much dropped at this point (that and leo isn't full retard 24/7 now).

Not that this means the comic is any funnier nowadays.

>>93813898
I still think problem sleuth was a better comic than homestuck (i'm glad i stopped reading HS before it went too far into the madness though).

Hussie's (and team special olympics') other, older works like inappropriate time for ham and ''And it don't stop' were pretty sweet.

>>93815688
I don't think Marco was ever really looking for a one-and-only thing with Alfie to start out with, but his nature makes him feel responsible for others (as seen with the washerwoman whom he "saves" from the drunken guards).

I think he thought that Alfie threw her life away just to join him and tried his best to force himself to be there for her. It was probably a bit of a relief to know that she didn't want him alone and that he had freedom to do what he wanted as well. I'm looking forward to seeing what Incase does from here with Marco (if for no other reason than I tend to make my DnD Paladin characters chivalrous but illiterate as a roleplay aspect and Marco is essentially that)

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>>93810904
Such a smart anon.

>>93815834
>I don't think Marco was ever really looking for a one-and-only thing with Alfie to start out with, but his nature makes him feel responsible for others
No, but he was clearly distressed by her not being down for exclusivity. As said, he got lucky, otherwise that threesome would have ended up being a cuckold thing.

Well, objectively speaking Alfie DID throw her life away to go slut it up on the caravan. But I don't think responsibility is the whole thing, I think part of it might be him projecting his own wants onto her.

I dunno, "EVERYONE FUCKS EVERYONE" is poison to a plot. I don't see it going anywhere good.

>>93814163
>But the second creates the first.
The second INFORMS the first. There's plenty of gender roles and gender norms that are totally different from society to society. There are plenty of gender roles, however, that stay mostly consistent across the world. Usually in a broad sense of men being breadwinners and women taking care of children or caring for the household.

>>93816028
>The second INFORMS the first. There's plenty of gender roles and gender norms that are totally different from society to society.
Not really. There are many general trends that are derived from biology.
As said, the gender/sex divide is fucking stupid.

>>93812026
>They don't even react to her not having a dick
wat

>>93816249
And there are many that aren't. I don't know why that's mutually exclusive.
Just like Memes and Genes.

Genes are biological data passed down from generation to generation through biology
Memes are informational data passed down from generation to generation through society

Both of which exist to form who we are as a society, what is acceptable or unacceptable, normal or abnormal and what is attractive or unattractive.

>>93813229
The slow pacing got even slower, the jokes got less funny, and he insisted on shoving in tons of unnecessary scenes about side characters rather than sticking to one plot line long enough to allow story progression.

>>93815972
He was never apparently distressed by her disdain for exclusivity, he was distressed by her brashness and felt responsible for her

>>93816514
Are we reading the same comic? He seemed pretty distressed when it was first brought up.

>>93810469
>We've gotten to the point that classic archetypes have come to be considered "SJW."

Annie Oakely, you uneducated cock. The lady cowboy has been a popular subgenre ever since and Timely/Atlas published a fuckload of books about both real and fictional wannabe Annies.

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>>93812869

>It's another vanilla sex between the main couple episode
Fucking christ just mix it up a bit. I'm so fucking tired of those two. I'm not even attracted to the anti-trap but atleast them getting involved would've spiced shit up but nope, "I'm just gonna schlick in the corner because I'm a huge hairy pussy"
>>93816681
I'm pretty sure he was just shitposting
>>93816444
MEMES JACK!

>>93813169
This
Suria went from "hot" to "chubby stumpy turd that resembles the bookworm from blasternation.

>>93814209
>Both are biological

Anon, our concepts of gender change too fast to be biological.

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I don't know what it's doing now, since I dropped it so long ago, but watching it slowly slide into angry political trash tier was a ride

It got to the point where KK introduced a villain who's entire schtick was that he was a capitalist just to show off how evil america and capitalism were. It felt like a kid in high school taking his first social studies class levels of angsty rebellion

>>93810744
>who they're trying to convince to fuck the girl but he just wants to watch.
>he
If you still think that's a dude, you've probably stopped reading Rock Cocks. It's a Tranny.

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You could've just posted Blaster Nation.
I know there's plenty of anons here that thought it was boring, but I enjoyed it and it was certainly more interesting than Rock Cocks.

Rock Cocks is the most boring porn comic I've ever read. The majority of it is literally just the two main characters having regular sex, and to finally make things less stale they thought it would be a good idea to have a MtF trans person masturbate while the two main characters have regular sex AGAIN!
I can't help but think this was to make whatever fans this shit show has self-insert easier. It's jarring that this tripe and Alfie exist at the same time.

>>93810433
It's amazing how easy it is to make friends into enemies. All you have to do is ask, and since they're your friends, they'll oblige you!

>>93818744
Sounds like you missed the part where Spinerette started mutating lots of extra arms.

All of her hero friends told her it was her problem to deal with.

Libertarian Parody Capitalist villain saved her life despite their past battles, and all he charged her was a favor.

So her hero friends basically want nothing to do with her because she's compromised or something.

So in trying to write an evil parody of capitalism, the writer instead made him right.

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It could have been good

>>93813773
Homestuck literally has more words then War and Peace. You can't just "Check it out."

>>93819159
Well, shit
Might just have to go back to that after all, then

It wasn't even about being triggered by KK insulting capitalism or anything, it was how ridiculously hamfisted it felt the views were being shoved down the reader's throats, so that's good news. I was rather fond if Spinerette and the waifus

>>93819233
>being /u/ trash
You have your own board. Leave.

Why are artists always fucked up?

>>93819233
Eh, to me Dr Bad Guy comes across as more of a libertarian parody to me rather than a capitalist one.

And whilst I'm no fan of libertarians, I agree he is rather hamfisted in his whole 'I reject society so I can be as evil as I want and you don't get to judge me' mentality.

Him coming through and saving her - including using most of his limited stock of 'superpowered special element' - is supposed to be some sort of desperate deal with the devil.

But he just comes off as reasonable.

>>93819401
They chose an unstable career path and are criticized every moment of their lives. You don't choose to deal with that if you're normal.

>>93819456
I'll never understand people who think the audience will accept that their villain is intrinsically evil. People look for ANYTHING they can to make things morally gray, it's in our nature to do so.

>>93811805
VG Cats was never good you were just a teen with a shitty sense of humor

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Homestuck.

>>93810386
8 Bit Theater lasted nine.

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>>93813721
Yeah...I'm not going to lie. Porn is sort of boring for me without a plot. I've gotten to bored of watching people, cartoons, pictures, selfies, you name it for wank material.

I need to be more invested into it and something like Incase sort of facilitates this (and I sort of have to catch up).

>>93819744
>They chose an unstable career path and are criticized every moment of their lives
sounds like most jobs. I just find it interesting that artists on average or way more unhinged than the other person.

>>93810744
>Now, they've even added a third person to their group as a Roadie who they're trying to convince to fuck the girl but he just wants to watch.
Porn probably ruined his erections

>>93821036
his lack of a penis probably was more detrimental

>>93820173
>started great
homestuck first chapters are the most boring shit that mankind ever witnessed

>>93821083
The intermission is really the best part.

>>93810234
>tfw you hopped off of Girl of the Wild's early cause Dal-Dal was getting increasingly annoying

that spoiler tho. A shame they ruined Jae-gu's character

>>93819456
I never saw universe and gretta as evil I thought it obvious that they were intended to be sympathetic considering both their origins and the fact that they never really did anything that was even wrong.
Pretty much the only thing that qualified them as villains was that they were wanted by the police

>>93810373

Sinfest used to be my homepage because it had good art, a new strip everyday, and a full colored pages on Sundays. But then tatsuya went full feminist

I remember I would check back every now and then and I regretted it every time

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Real Life Comics.

>Wacky adventures of a guy, his girlfriend and their friends
>Flips between friends being weird with each other, real life observations and occasional time travel/giant mech plotlines
>Artist and girlfriend break up, her character disappears from comic
>Artist gets another girlfriend, who has the same name as previous girlfriend
>Comic stops being 'Real Life Comics' and becomes 'Greg And Liz Comics'
>Things get serious between artist and new girlfriend, they get married and have a kid
>Now it's 'Isn't Married Life Odd And My Kid Is Weird And Wonderful Comic'
>Hasn't been updated since 2015

Was one of my first and fave webcomics. Sad times.

>>93821970
Also if you happen to like fat girls, the current storyline involves a power swap, and Greta and Heather swap powers. Heather gets fat, although in kind of a dumpy way, while Greta gets thin and grows extra arms.

Unfortunately Chochi is not drawing this chapter, so we don't get prime Gretafied Heather.

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>>93810153
Is there any webcomic that actually stayed consistently good from beginning to end?

It seems starting off good and quickly turning to shit is basically a requirement of webcomics

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>>93810234
>He never eventual found his mom and verbally beat her ass
Only think I wanted and it never happened. I honestly didn't mind the focus on the MC since he eventual got stronger and got back at his bullies. Plus I remember a confession between him and the main girl happening midway through and just him during the entire arc when Dal-Dal got kidnapped.
I remember him kicking open a window when her kidnappers were trying to attack them


>>93821358
You probably would have liked the arc where she got kidnapped

>>93819401
Have you ever considered that it's only the fucked up ones you hear about? What about the artists you haven't even heard of in your life because they never start anything publicly?

Creative types are more prone (broadly generalizing) to being more neurotic, but most are like any other employee

>>93822270
It's hard because very few webcomics ever reach the end.

>>93810576
Honesty my issue with Rock Cocks is the theme they decided to go with it.

Personally, I feel comics about bands and music to be very tricky because they are not a media with audio, so we can't really value that aspect.

Very few comics do managed to pull it off, but are very few and far between. Plus, Rock band stories tend to always hit the same story points. We know the rival band is gonna get well known and rob them of their popularity, we know there's gonna be band fights, etc.

If they wanted to do a porn comic I'd have picked another more interesting genre.

>>93810386
Is Axe Cop still good?

>>93822270
I know of webcomics that ended, but other than It's Walky, I can't remember any comic I've read having a real ending. They usually are still going and I may or may not have lost interest it them, or they stop suddenly.

I wonder if a key problem is that not every idea should go on for years and years. Some comics are meant for something short, but the author drags out the short storyline for years. Then sometimes that main story is dropped, or the theme changes a huge amount.


What are the key mistakes an author can make for a good comic to go bad? Here's what comes to mind to me, but there may be others-

(many of these probably tie into comics going on too long, and as they go on too long the author makes strange choices.)

1. Introducing a new character years into a comic, new character either becomes the main character, or everything starts revolving around them.

2. A comic not about social issues adds that as a main theme.

3. All of the original main characters are slowly phased out and replaced. Soon none of the original main characters appear anymore.

4. They restart suddenly, sometimes over and over. The restarts may or may not be better, but it's hard to remember what is canon anymore.

5. The comic spends -years- on some random seemingly unimportant story.

6. A comedy becomes a dark drama, often including tragic backstories.

7. The characters fail to ever evolve or change, even after years or a decade of comics.

What others am I forgetting?

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>>93822584
>Webcomic starts off really good
>First act flows very well, it's obvious the writer thought it all out before he started drawing
>Second part starts
>Absolutely goes to shit, writer obviously has no idea where to take the comic and introduces dozens of new plot points
>Eventually writes himself into a corner or is just drowning in hundreds of plots
>Updates slow down and eventually stop without a single word from the writer
>He's never seen again
Every fucking time

>>93822270
When it comes to webcomics (or just stories in geeral) that follow an overarching story, writing the first act and set up is almost always easier than pulling off the 2nd and 3rd acts.

>>93822270
I thought Daisy Owl was overall pretty consistent and ended on a good note. The author left it alone and went back to his programming gig

>>93810153
Poorly Planned Comics

>>93820358
>It's a fuck movie. I don't watch a fuck movie for the story. I watch a fuck movie to see fuckin'.
>I got to side with Jesus on this one. I personally appreciate an attempt at telling a story. When I care more about the characters, I care more about the fuckin'.

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Reading this thread makes me wanna do my own webcomic. I'm still in the process of writing the script but once that's completed (and once I've revisited it a month or two later to make sure it ain't cringeworthy) it should be smooth sailing from there.

Coming soon.

In 2053.

>>93823513
>>93823714

Complete truth.

From experience, another issue is not lack of future planning, but when you get to a certain part of the story you have better ideas but flub trying to replace your original plans quickly.

>>93824264
A lot of the time quickly drafting out tiny thumbnail roughs for how a story will play out and redoing parts until it feels right would be pretty helpful for authors in avoiding the tumbling down. But that's pretty difficult or not even possible if there's just not enough time because of deadlines.

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>>93822402
>he never found his mom and verbally beat her ass

god it hurts, I was looking forward to that the entire series.

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>>93810234
>starts off as a fighting manwha with some romance
>finishes as a romance drama with no action whatsoever

>>93810433
Jokes on him, the biggest thing /co/ likes is people actually putting in effort. Hence the reason Unsounded and K6BD are liked so much on here.

>>93810234
Shit man, I only got halfway through. I only picked it up cuz I'm way into series about girls fighting. It stops being about that"?

>>93825589
yep. I was alright with some romance, the "strong girl weak boy" dynamic isn't really focused on often so I was glad to see a series with it.. but when that's ALL it becomes... I'm out
>>93813472
its been a while but I'd say after the kidnapping stuff get resolved. You'll probably notice the series dropped off hard by then. you might be wanting to see them finish off all other loose ends in the series, but it never happens and I'd recommend just stopping there.

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I forgot got the name of webcomic but it starts off with having a great start with the characters and just killed them all off at the end of the prequel

>>93813249
The fuck does Daniel Ash's other band have to do with /co/?

>>93810373
lets not delude ourselves
Sinfest was an OK comic. it was good for a chuckle. then he went all nutso feminism but doesn't even get that right

>>93825750
stand still stay silent?

it didn't kill the prequel characters, it just skipped 70 years forward - the prequel characters are ancestors of the main characters

it's not averse to killing off main characters though

>>93820358
Yeah. I'm into erotica for precisely that reason, hell, half the reason I want to take creative writing classes is so I can write interesting porn. I'm into sci-fi/fantasy literature and erotica because you can explore pretty much any theme or idea with it.

It's the same reason I want to partner up with an artist and make a virtual band - You can sing all you want about something, but a different medium allows for all sorts of cool shit. I think a lot of people who watched the Scott Pilgrim movie wouldn't have enjoyed the music without all the interesting visual stuff Wright added in alongside it.

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>>93822270
Pandemonium wizard village was consistently good imo. Rice boy was pretty good to if I remember right.

>>93810386
Narbonic
Bad Machinery
Whomp
Manly Guys Doing Manly Things
Hark! A Vagrant
Breakfast of the Gods
Everything Jason Shiga has ever made
Order of the Stick
1/0
8-bit Theatre
The Abominable Charles Christopher
Erfworld
Rice Boy
The Thrilling Adventures of Lovelace and Babbage

There was a time in my life I followed over 120 webcomics at once, they couldn't all turn out bad

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>>93823744
>tfw now remembering there's no more daisy owl

>>93822864
Oh yeah. See, no one ever actually does the smart thing and keep it somewhat true to life. A real band comic would be more of a slice-of-life type comic. You have to build exposure, do as much live stuff as you can, and do a metric fuckton of networking, and that's only if everything is going peachy, which it definitely won't.

The audio part adds a whole different can of worms to your comic because that WILL require animation to pull it off and it WILL take an enormous amount of time to polish it and make it look good (especially if you're like Brendan Small and make sure the musical instruments, fingering, and drumming is accurate).

>>93826159
wizard village was a little too sappy for me but I think it worked well
It feels like the author actually defined a start and end to the story so it won't drag on for too long

>>93810829
>Gunnerkrigg Court
>Good
Yeah, nah bro.

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>>93826612

>>93810153
Who would have thought that people would get bored of watching a guy's fat OC fuck his waifu.

>>93826621
Sorry the truth hurts, anon.

>>93810234
Is this still going on? I stuck with it all up to where MC didn't make it in time to go on a date with Queen making her depression
I dropped it as soon as MC didn't reach for his smart phone to tell Queen why he was late

A red flag did pop up when MC was with his sick little sister the night before and didn't thought to call

Dal dal best girl

>>93825750
Sleepless Domain? though that's still good if a bit slow

>>93813261
what do you mean i relate to HiaGB really hard

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Having the creator kill themselves kinda ruins it.

Pic related

>>93822149
Fuck really? I remember reading that back in like 2005. I'm surprised it lasted another 10 years. I kinda want to go back and read it again, does it still hold up or does it shit the bed at some point?

>>93810433
>Devout your life's work, your art, the manifestation of your creativity, just to aggravate a collective gathering of anonymous strangers that happen to disagree with you and will never know personally.
It matters not if it's 4chan, Reddit, Youtube, or some other anonymous forum. Artists shouldn't be that petty, and their audience shouldn't suffer their personally grudges.

>>93810234
Girls of the WIld's what?

>>93810433
Paranatural is still good just don't read it weekly. Leave it to accrue like ten or so pages and read it and it's still great.

>>93827206
Dumbass thought he was being cool in telling the boogie man of the internet that he wasn't afraid of him

>>93819208
Is this that one Andrew Dobson comic?

>>93810386
Tons of webcomics stay good for years.

Megg, Mogg and Owl

>>93810386

achewood

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>Making a webcomic
>1 page per 6 weeks

God I hate myself

>>93826710
>DalDal
>best girl

if you have no problem with your best girl having shit taste
Moonyoung best girl

and nah dude, it ended abruptly leaving a lot of unresolved plot points

If we're actually counting gook stuff, Annarasumanara is the only good manhwa I've ever read.

>>93810153
>Rock Cocks
>ever good

>>93826710
It ended October 26 2016

>>93828318
Did she at least ended up with the college kid?

He was pretty legit

>>93811926
So it has a vagina, I see no problem

>>93828777
Not that anon, but yeah she did, which I'm pretty happy for, but it was at the cost of having to deal with a shit ton of drama for several chapters
also nice digits

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>>93813261
Does he even still do anything anymore? Last I remember he stop updating Gunshow on the basis of "lol I dunno" and then fucked off into a void forever

I think the problem is the artist/writer gives no fuck for the audience, whatever the specified niche audience is even meant to be, and just throwing fetishes at the wall to either please as many people at once or shit maybe just themselves. Say what you want but at least someone like Shadman is consistent and fucking Willis who also does the "Let's have everyone and everything fuck shtick" and very shittly drawn as least tell you what's gonna happen before hand in case you're not sure if that's what you want.

I didn't care enough of the actual story to pay attention so I can't criticize it.

>>93829235
He ended Gunshow because he's focused on Back

>>93811890
People were complaining about it all throughout the train chapter. It didn't just go bad after that.

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>>93829235
He's still doing "He's a Good Boy" which I liked, though I haven't caught up in a while.

Nerf Now

>>93822864
I think the only music-based comic I ever liked was Sing no Evil

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>>93811644
The pages where the baseball cap kid was running from the redheaded kid on the way to school is probably the most entertaining section of any webcomic I've ever read. The baseball cap kid was bouncing off all these strange personalities he had met up to that point while the redheaded kid was belting out sweet jokes nearly every panel.

I wish he was able to keep that level of quality up. Paranatural fell off so hard for me that I can't even remember the names of the characters.

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>>93811873
>The entire fucking webcomic was just a big setup for one brick joke

This is the kind of highbrow shit I like.

>>93811644
I just caught up and read the recent fight pages and they all read very well at once. Just don't read it weekly. It's not a good comic for that anymore.

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Remember Kevin and Kell?

That shit is Stillllllllll going.

>>93810153
Blame Hiveworks. Since it got Hiveworks'd there's been NO sex and almost no nudity. Meanwhile Hiveworks uses "think of the money" and "you signed a contract~" as a way to pressure content creators into making drastic creative changes and pressuring them to do porn with Slipshine.

>>93829063
>>93829226
Yes I approve

>>93814243
>most of them weren't following jesus (but lots were) so they didn't have any kind of anchorpoint for determining what the natural human lifestyle was.

Allowing Christfags to post here was a mistake.

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>>93818744
>I don't know what it's doing now

Well here's today's page

>>93822270
8-Bit Theatre was generally pretty consistent, but you sort of fall into a rhythm with Brian Clevinger's style of dialogue that takes a lot of the fun out of the gags.

>>93827557
it's really not, Zack can't keep tonal consistency worth a damn and he keeps building up plot upon plot that he KEEPS taking focus out of in favor of wacky hijinks so he can insert as many funny faces as he can.

>>93829661
>It's not a good comic for that anymore.
It's not a good comic for the plot either considering Zack just has no fucking idea what to do with it. He himself admitted that he's getting tired of writing the comics because he feels he started it way too early and now he's being held hostage by it.

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I like Sakana even if the pace is plodding at times

Its one of those comics that works better when you read it all at once instead of a page at a time

Fuck Rock Cocks. All that comic reminds me of is that I'm a fuckless young 20 something and all my close friends are paired off or having casual fun sex while I'm trying to find a halfway decent webcomic to read.

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does camp weedonwantcha count?

>>93831086
When did it get bad?

>>93831291
was it ever good?

>>93831315
For me at least.

>>93830247
When and where did he say that?

>>93830262
It's not bad the writer just does this as a hobby while she has a real job so it tends to be on the backburner.

>>93822270
Digger comes to mind fairly quickly, and that ended quite a while ago.

>>93810797
>ome sort of battle of the bands between bands of various deviances?
Now that sounds interesting.

>>93831413
Well at least its relatively steady even if slow. 2 pages a week is better than many webcomic artists give.

>>93830720
>the feeling of your friends all having sex and being in relationships and you're not
Literally no worse feeling on this earth.

>>93831487
True. I just want to hit the gay date i think yuudai is much more interesting than jiro.

>>93831541
Same. I hope it happens soonish. Seems Taisei may be crushing back (even though I admit his revelation felt kinda forced. But who am I to complain if it gets Yuudai a happy ending)

>>93831344
it lost its charm for me, too scatterbrained

>>93815691
I agree, problem sleuth was better.

>>93831375
He tweeted a while back that a life lesson is to never start a project that is gonna take all of your time and dedication early on in your life because it will zap the energy out of you.

>>93818744
Same, I dropped it near the end of the Arc involving the crazy guy from Best Korea with the glass powers. I didn't much care for Spinnerette and Mega Maid's relationship.
>I've never had a real and meaningful relationship in my entire life.
>I guess I'm gay now.

Also Canada Arc was the worst Arc.

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>>93829890
Wtf is this shit?

>>93831934
A chronic case of Erfworld Syndrome.

>>93827998
I unironically consider Achewood the greatest piece of English literature. I don't even share it with people the way I do other things I like because I know if they weren't as enthusiastic about it as I am, I would never respect them.

>>93824168
>When I care more about the characters, I care more about the fuckin'.
I mean, I do too. Though I really enjoy the passion. Mindless fucking is just that. There is nothing more to it. But when two characters really care for each other. I feel that makes it better.

>>93822270
Bigger Than Cheeses

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>>93827972
Meg Mogg and Owl was like watching a train wreak. I absolutely hated the characters. I kept reading it because bad shit kept happening to the characters.
That ending with Owl moving out of the house after callout Meg and Mogg out on their bullshit. That was so satisfying. Owl was an ass but he didn't deserve all the shit he got.

>>93829725
>It Hurts
What happend?

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>>93810386
You insisted on webcomics that don't have long hiatuses, right? Other people answered, but I feel like dogpiling you because you sound like one of those jerks that believes there's nothing that exists without you already knowing about it

It Hurts!!
All Night Laundry
Freefall nineteen years, fuck
Awful Hospital
Guilded Age
Something Positive
Conceptual Heist
Headless Bliss
Girls With Slingshots

>>93826389
And everything can also fall down if the music you DO create sucks ass or is not liked by people, making you question why would you support the character's band to begin with.

too many variables that can easily lead to fucking up. Rock Band comics are just hard to pull off in the way they are doing with RC, they should have done something else with porn.

>>93832323
It got a proper ending. A good one too. Gob had an idea of how he wanted the comic to go from the very beginning and more or less stuck with it to the end.

>>93829764
I'm surprised it's not happened with El Goonish Shive yet. Dan just makes sexy/fetishy pin ups on his Patreon.

I actually support him because he's one of the few webcomic authors I feel actually deserves the $5 tossed his way

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>>93822270
It Hurts

>>93815261
I stopped reading about a year ago to let myself enjoy a large chapters worth of reading. It's a shame that I won't be able to enjoy it now, but also a blessing I quit when I did to save myself the trouble.

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>>93822270
Narbonic
1/0

>>93833812
this

>>93833892
I think you and I are the only people on this site who've read those.

>>93811873
>>93811951
>>93829595
goddamn 8-bit theater is the best sprite best webcomic out there I'm pretty sure.

>>93810386
Questionable Content :^)

>>93810829
>>Oglaf - Fantasy Gag a week NSFW


I miss The Apprentice and the slutty back chick with the pointy teeth.

>>93826201
>Erfworld
Erfworld's text stories, which matter, are a bit of a chore to get through. I haven't checked it out in awhile, though. I recall it being on pause then because the artist was going through some shit.

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>inb4 furshit
>inb4 purplekecleon drama

Without devolving into the same shit about how terrible a person the artist is, I just want to appreciate how thoroughly this comic has been fucked beyond recognition since launching in 2013.

>First 3 chapters or so have obnoxious characters but a clear enough plot, good art, frequent updates
>Artist designs new characters for approaching arc, falls in love, the story jarringly shifts to focus nearly entirely on them
>The original story becomes overshadowed by not one, but FOUR other plotlines that all take place at separate and often nonlinear points in the timeline
>At the same time, artist starts running porn stories on the parallel NSFW site that focuses on the three new favorite characters, including plot points that are so vital to understanding their motivations in the main comic that you have to wade through the porn to understand a modicum of what's happening
>This effort is worthless in the end regardless because the story relies heavily on an abstract and surreal mystery that is never grounded in any new revelations but just rambles on in masterbatory visuals and tryhard narrative forever
>Artist maintains a high female-to-male cast ratio intentionally and got so pissed that someone commented on it that one of the only male characters got recreated as a girl. I'm not joking

It's now 2017 and no one knows what's happening, the artist has gotten obsessed with a NEW character and the narrative has switched to focus on her now, genuine plot-changing twists have been introduced in the porn comics and never explained in the main comic but still assumed, and there's barely any characterization anymore because the writing is split 50/50 between what the artist thinks is funny dialogue and 2edgy "surreal" """horror""".

It has some novel ideas and great art but god damn if it doesn't spin its wheels. I dare anyone to go to the archive on the site and try to figure out what the fuck is going on with the story.

>>93822132
>A webcomic named after unapologetic immoral action is designed by a radical feminist

Like pottery

>>93810815
>looking for story in a porn comic

Those concepts have never meshed well together anon

>>93835031
Checkmate.

http://readhentaimanga.com/sense-of-values-of-wine/1/1/

>>93833777
>Gob had an idea of how he wanted the comic

Yeah, sure.

>>93833812
I love "It Hurt" but it's not consistently good.

It fluctuates from good to shit to good constantly

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>>93810153
>sex-posi webcomic
>not knowing it was gonna get shitty