/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

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What is she, /swco/?

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MY

>>93801029
Indians, Russians and Middle-easterners are Asian

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>>93801101
How?

>>93801159
he's losing his touch, last thread it was 19 seconds, this time it was 26, I wanna see this cunt make it in less than 5

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>nucanon will be worse than the prequels

Screencap this so I can be proven right in two years

I am beginning to suspect the sequel trilogy was a mistake.

>>93801152
For Americans, when they say "Asians" they mean "Orientals"
Not people who live across the arbitrary line that divides Europe and Asia

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>>93801207
Well, yeah. It's hard to be better than a masterpiece.

>>93801207
>proven wrong 2 years ago
kek

>>93801207
>>93801213
I have total faith in Rian

TFA was shit because the mandate was "Make normies love Star Wars again".
That was the mandate. So they got the no-creativity normalizor himself to do it.
And it worked. Normies care again.

I choose to believe now that the foundation has been set, real creative fun things can happen again.

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>>93801207
TLJ will be the only good film of the ST.
Only Rian can save us now.

>>93801277
dumb esbfag

>>93801300
If he was an esbfag, he'd have loved TFA on principle.
It was written by the same guy after all

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>>93801229
>prequels
>masterpiece
Pick one, Jar Jar

>>93801260
Fuck this shitty excuse, they could have made anything and people would have seen it because it's fucking Star Wars.

>>93801143
GALEN

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>>93801312
>ESB has a ship without a hyperdrive going to another star system
>TFA has a beam moving really, really, REALLY slowly blow up another star system, and the explosion can be seen from yet another star system

It all makes sense now.

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>>93801332
Uh, how is this not pure kino?

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>>93801300
But ROTJ's my favorite.
What the fuck did he even mean by this.

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The B stands for Best

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>>93801094

Never forget

>>93801336
>Fuck this shitty excuse, they could have made anything and people would have seen it because it's fucking Star Wars.
You just don't get Hollywood
It's not enough to be "ok". It has to be optimal.
Why make a 750 million when you can make a billion?
There is no room for losing people because of actual creativity anymore. Not when the basic entry fee to a blockbuster is 100 million.

Not enough people would have automatically gone to see Star Wars. It had to be the "right" kind.

>>93801260
I still think it was a huge mistake not to have a massive timeskip. All the ST has done is cheapen and ruin the ending of ROTJ. The victory of the Rebels and Luke's redemption of Vader should have been allowed to stand for at least a century of in-universe time.

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>>93801332
>rotjposting
I you like Return of the Jedi, but hate the prequels, you haven't been paying any attention to Return of the Jedi.

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>>93801352

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So what's this ESB meme? I mean, it's my favorite film in the series, because it's a good fucking movie with an even better soundtrack.

>>93801207
you already are

>>93801260
>TFA was shit because the mandate was "Make normies love Star Wars again".
>That was the mandate. So they got the no-creativity normalizor himself to do it.
>And it worked. Normies care again.
TFA was shit because of Kasdan, Pegg, and JJ

The "mandate" doesn't exist

>>93801392
I can totally get behind that.
Have Luke become canonized as some kind of religious figure.

Even if the universe is exactly the same (i.e. Republic vs Empire again, Jedi gone), then at least the old stuff would feel "reverent".
Hell you can maybe even keep the exact same plot and have Luke be frozen somewhere. Or maybe in a "Force coma".

I have to admit that Luke looks great in TFA. I really dig how he looks, at least

>>93801444
Some people here hate it because it's commonly agreed to be the best in the OT.

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>>93801444
Plebby prequelfags claiming ESB is inferior to their kiddie movies. Ignore them, they lack objectivity since they were sucking their thumbs when TPM first aired.

>>93801332
I don't need to because they're one and the same, ewok

>>93801444
>better soundtrack

"Hey I can't help but notice that the Imperial March hasn't been played for almost ten seconds, let's fix that."

>>93801454
If you don't think Disney had very VERY tight control on their billion dollar purchase, you're a moron.

This is the company who fires directors 90% through their movie if it doesn't line up with their wishes.
It happens all the time in the MCU, and it didn't even cost them as much as Star Wars to get started.

>>93801444
ANH is mine but I don't think that it's possible to have an objective best choice out of the OT

>>93801444
>>93801500
I'm a OTfag, but I think this is how the tier list goes
>RotS
>RotJ
>ANH
>ESB
>TFA
>TPM
>AotC

>>93801500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkV4ctqDI_c
Nigga please.

>>93801444
Because the prequel contrarians are trying to force a meme

>>93801537
For soundtracks, I mean

>>93801511
>LE DISNEY BOOGYMAN
>SHILL
>SQUEAK SQUEAK

>>93801569
I might have gave you that if TFA wasn't rushed out the door as fast as possible.

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>>93801444
There's no reason you can't like ESB. But it is a meme among fake fans to say it's your favorite so you can get nerd cred to fit in. Typically, they don't like anything else and shit on alternate opinions, while claiming to be "true fans'" despite not liking most of the franchise

>>93801511
>>93801454 (You) #
>If you don't think Disney had very VERY tight control on their billion dollar purchase, you're a moron.
If you think they do or that they had some nonsensical non-existent mandate you're a moron.

Lucasfilm is very much like Marvel in thst Disney trusts them and allows them to manage Star Wars themselves.

Remember, TFA and Rogue One were Lucasfilm Ltd. productions, not Walt Disney Pictures productions

>>93801569
You have two options
>A megacorp keeps very tight control on their major investment
>A megacorp buys something and says "Hey whatever, do what you want"

What's more likely? They hired JJ for a reason.
He's the soulless rebooter to make something popular again.
That should say everything about what they expected from TFA

>>93801618
Their mandate was to delete the PT and pretend that this was the first Star Wars movie in 30 years.

Why? Because nostalgia fucking sells.

I don't know about you guys, but I'd be perfectly fine with there being no new movies ever if it meant TCW and the EU could go on.

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>>93801647
>Hated what JJ did to Star Trek, ESPECIALLY Into Darkness.
>Somehow had high hopes for The Force Awakens going in
>TFA did exactly what ST:ID did
I don't know what the fuck I was thinking.

>>93801662
>Their mandate was to delete the PT and pretend that this was the first Star Wars movie in 30 years.
Which is why they've done the exact opposite?

>Why? Because nostalgia fucking sells.
There was no mandate. JJ and Pegg and Kasdan were just retarded otfags thst made the movie

>>93801647
Did you even watch Rogue One?

>>93801708
So you believe that Disney bought Star Wars for a huge price and just tossed it off to anyone who would take it without making sure it went the way they wanted?

Look. We KNOW that Disney enforces a house style. Look at all the MCU directors getting fired if they don't line up.
We know that's their MO

But somehow, their most expensive acquisition was left to the winds of fate?
Yeah, it was JJ, Kasdan, and Pegg who pulled the trigger, but it wasn't them giving the order. They were chosen.
If I hire a rapist to rape someone, I don't blame the rapist, I blame the person who hired them.

>>93801723
Rogue One was full of OT wankery.
What are you implying?

It even took "Guardians of the Whills" from George's Star Wars notes

>>93801723
>did you even watch...
if you ever have to ask this question, the answer is always a resounding "no"

>>93801806
>The movie that takes place two days before the OT has stuff from the OT in it
And somehow it still had more original content than TFA.

>>93801862
Well yeah

How does that mean that TFA was not written and directed with the express purpose of grabbing nostalgia fags?

>>93801806
>It even took "Guardians of the Whills" from George's Star Wars notes
so
>SOULESS COMPANY NOT TAKING GEORGE SERIOUSLY THEY DON'T GET STAR WARS BEYOND MONEY
>THEY STOLE FROM HIS NOTES HOW UNORIGINAL
pick one

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It's time for Star Wars to end.

>>93801778
>So you believe that Disney bought Star Wars for a huge price and just tossed it off to anyone who would take it without making sure it went the way they wanted?
No, but i don't think there is some big conspiracy mandate you're trying to claim

Lucasfilm made TFA and they got JJ to direct (and he only agreed after initially declining because he got them to let his company co-produce)
>>93801778
>Yeah, it was JJ, Kasdan, and Pegg who pulled the trigger, but it wasn't them giving the order. They were chosen.

They were chosen and then they made the decision to make a soulless OT wankery film

>Look. We KNOW that Disney enforces a house style. Look at all the MCU directors getting fired if they don't line up.
>We know that's their MO
MCU directors only get fired if they try to do bullshit that won't mesh with the other films in the MCU. Of course there's a general style but it leaves room for variety.

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>>93801949
Then you should have ended it, coward.

>>93801963
>They were chosen and then they made the decision to make a soulless OT wankery film
What I'm saying that if you bring a hammer out of a toolbox, that hammer is going to want to hit nails.

You act like Disney was totally oblivious about what they would do.

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>>93801949
But George, you are directly responsible for Star Wars being in the state it's in now. You had already ended the movies, and TCW was breathing its last breaths. You were the one who decided you wanted to make more movies, and you were the one who agreed to sell to Disney.

You did this, George. You chose it all.

>>93801806
It had PT ties as well, including Bail Organa and the fucking Coruscant and Mustafar.
So the "mandate to pretend the PT doesn't exist" narrative falls flat.

More importantly, it was an original story, with an unusual tone for a Star Wars movie, and took unexpected risks.
So the "mandate to go for no-creativity normie-appealing safe OT-copying" narrative also falls flat.

The idea of the movie itself came from a visual effects guy, not Disney. Likewise, the Han Solo movie came from George's ideas, not Disney. Even the ST began with George before he even sold Lucasfilm to Disney.

Lucasfilm is making all the decisions, and Disney is doing little interference.

>>93802023
>What I'm saying that if you bring a hammer out of a toolbox, that hammer is going to want to hit nails.
Not a good analogy as a whole

>You act like Disney was totally oblivious about what they would do.
You act like Disney specifically made a mandate that TFA had to be OT wankery and thst they pretend the prequels don't exist

Stop talking like some tinfoil conspiracy retard

>>93801934
>/swco/ universally hates nuWars
>say something bad about them
>/swco/ loves nuWars
I think that /swco/ just hates everyone...

What I'm saying is that for TFA, what they did was to attempt to recreate ANH and the magic that it had. ANH EXPLODED on to the scene. Sci-fi was never remotely a popular thing. Then Star Wars happened and it changed everything.
Everyone saw Star Wars.

That's what Disney wants. And yes, taking George's original notes is perfectly inline with ignoring his later contributions

>make franchise out of passion, pouring millions of dollars into TCW
>sells the rights to a soulless megacorp
What did George mean by this?

>>93802089
>I think /swco/ just hates everyone...

Welcome to 4chan.

>>93801094
Antz 2 when?

>>93802089
It's almost as though were a bunch of people, with differing opinions or something

damn...

>>93802089
When was the last time something like ANH even happened in cinema history? I can't recall anything as of late.

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>>93802089
Stop pretending you come here regularly, /swco/ doesn't hate canon.

The general opinion is that TFA was shit and the aftermath trilogy was mediocre but overall we love the new canon.

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>>93802111
>Thinking Lucasfilm is some small arthouse collective
>thinking anything they did wasn't profit-driven
They were a large multitiered corporation with a few thousand employees long before Disney entered the eqation

>>93802111
The sad truth is that George pouring money into TCW wasn't about passion.
It was about keeping Star Wars in the zeitgeist.
He wanted TCW to be an ember of the mania that kept making Star Wars popular.

But it didn't work. Interest kept fading. The numbers viewing TCW got smaller and smaller and smaller.

So he cut his losses and sold it for a bajillion dollars

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>>93802177

>>93802151
Avatar.

I'd say it was a fluke, but Cameron did Titanic just before it. He clearly knows what people want.
But somehow he let 15 years go between movies.
I mean what the fuck a theme park ride opened up in Disney World. This year. For Avatar. A 10 year old movie.
What the fuck?

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Alright /swco/, how do we fix Star Wars?

>>93802223
Decanonize TFA

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>>93802223
It's not broken...?

>>93802223
Get some movie nerd to make a movie about old fashioned sci-fi
Yeah, it won't make as much money as humanly possible, but it might just be good.

But since the profit margins aren't optimal. It'll never be made

>>93802223
hot dickgirl on girl action

>>93802223
Heavily retcon TFA
Fire Larroca and Delgado
Give Filoni more budget

>>93802076
I think he's right, though. It's just good business sense for Disney to keep tight tabs on Lucasfilm. They paid a fuckton of money for Star Wars, and they want to make a fuckton of money with it now that they've got it. Why wouldn't they keep tabs on it?

Also, LOL at actually defending anything Disney does. Disney is the fucking devil. /co/ used to know that.

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>>93802223
Interactive galaxy map video game that lets you look at the planets and star systems each having it's own neato tidbit of trivia.
boom, star wars is fix

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>>93802328
>its just good business sense
>btw capitalism is evil

>>93802385
Are you the guy that strawmans everything?
Because that's totally retarded

>>93802402
he literally just said Disney is the devil after defending their business practices

also read the filename

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>>93802328
/co/ has a short memory for betrayals.

>>93802328
Of course they do keep tabs. And they see that Lucasfilm knows what they are doing, so they let them do what they do without interfering much, because it will make them money.

>>93802328
>It's just good business sense for Disney to keep tight tabs on Lucasfilm. They paid a fuckton of money for Star Wars, and they want to make a fuckton of money with it now that they've got it. Why wouldn't they keep tabs on it?
Of course they keep tabs on them but they very much trust Lucasfilm to handle Star Wars. Otherwise all of the new stuff would be co-produced by Disney and shit.

>>93802328
>Also, LOL at actually defending anything Disney does. Disney is the fucking devil. /co/ used to know that.
Good thing Lucasfilm is making Star Wars then!

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Nice achievement

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>>93802223
Do what other franchises have done, and instead of canon vs not-canon, just have different timelines/universes. Idk.

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>>93802622

>>93802623
that's the worst fucking idea imaginable and THE reason above all that the comic book industry is in the shitter

>>93802223
declare the Aftermath trilogy non-canon and re-do them with a competent author

>>93802622
>>93802650
This pottery thing has gotten out of control

>come to Star Wars thread
>hates literally 100% of media produced since 2014 "becuz disney"
>must never enjoy Star Wars ever again "becuz disney"
>gets mad and actively argues with the Star Wars thread for not hating Star Wars with him
Why bother come to the thread in the first place?

And why are you guys giving him (you)'s?

>>93802692
Go away RLM fag

>>93802710
Reread his post anon.

>>93802654
I don't think the broad strokes of Aftermath's story are necessarily bad or detrimental to the canon, it's just that the writing style is godawful.

>>93802692
Rogue One was good though, most people here agree on that. Rebels was alright too

>>93802710
I hate RLM and TFA like the rest of /swco/

I'm just not some EUfag idiot who refuses to like the good Canon stuff on some retarded principle.

>>93802710
I think hes insulting the retards complaining about Disney, not complaining about it himself

but lord knows with the reading comprehension in these threads these days...

>>93802729
I did
RLM loved TFA

Just another Disney Shill

Probably the same guy who has been baiting with stupid anti-Prequel comments

>>93802730
this, if you kept the plot the same but had Timothy Zahn author it, we'd all be sucking its cock as BASED DISNEY SAVED STAR WARS

>>93802767
Anon, you clearly didn't read >>93802692's post because that is the exact opposite of what it says. Did you never learn reading comprehension?

>>93802767
Read my post (>>93802744) you mong

>>93802794
>reddit spacing and complete inability to interpret basic English language
yep its the same idiot baiting for the past few weeks

herkilyjerkily

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>>93802824
Are you seriously struggling to understand the post this badly?

Or is this one of those "pretending to be retarded" things?

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Requesting a drawfag draw anakin in this

>>93802859
quality projection shieldgateanon

>>93802859
>Posts a random reaction image
it's him

I almost forgot why I barely come by here
Thanks /swco/

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WOAH! You're now the lead developer at Nu-Bioware! EA is holding a board meeting for their new Star Wars game, and you're about to present! What's your idea /swco/?

>>93802892
actually I'm being cruel comparing him to shieldgate anon or "force isn't heritable" anon because they eventually conceded at least partially after being browbeaten with evidence, whereas most of the others continue with this bait charade

>>93802962
The Erotic Adventures of Star Wars: A Virtual Reality RPG

rated T for Teen

>>93802967
I said I hate TFA, but that its retarded to hate on the rest of canon

how the fuck am I baiting

>>93802981
What game is this a cutscene from?

>>93802962
KOTOR 3 with no stupid bullshit

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>>93802967
To be fair, it didn't require much browbeating for the Force inheritance thing. Just needed one example not Skywalker in canon. Shieldgate guy was way harder to convince.

>>93802962
This >>93802380 . Make it a free mobile game, certain sectors are dlc.

>>93802981
VERY good music here
But I don't much like what else

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>>93802272
>not dickgirl on male

>>93803036
anon, thats gay

>>93802962
Give Obsidian reign on another RPG
Low budget, but no limitations
Get the guy who wrote the other stuff.

>>93803058
>inb4 someone says the writer for KOTOR 2 hates Star Wars

>>93803036
fag, female (male) on female is the purest form of love

>>93803009
this post >>93802824 is agreeing with this post >>93802794

>>93803084
the writer for KOTOR 2 hates Star Wars

>>93803098
Oh my bad

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>>93803053
Yes but not as gay as 2 dudes ramming each others butts

>>93803109
Is Vader's Fist still a thing?

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>This is an actual still from ROTS

Who can defend this CGI video game garbage? Thank christ Lucas sold and we got someone actually capable like Abrams to take over.

>>93803131
Ebin

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>>93803128
I sure hope so. I liked their clothing line.

>>93803131
You forgot to compare it to a "PS2 Cutscene", don't you want as much (you)'s as you can get?

>>93803084
>>93803122
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised

The biggest narrative voice in the story is a character who says "Light and Dark is stupid. How can you make a morality out of literally black and white?" and who wants to literally destroy the Force.

But that doesn't mean that this person doesn't GET Star Wars.

Sometimes you guys make Star Wars out to be a cult where only the people who bend the knee can become a part of it.
You can have perfectly good things created by people who hate the universe

>>93803128
Yeah, but they're simply highly-skilled Stormtroopers, no Clones.

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>>93803131

>>93803198
>Grey and blue overcast
>cuts to sunset for apocalypse now reference
>goes back to grey and blue on the battlefield

JJ is a hack

>>93803203
he literally did not get star wars
avellone made kreia his personal mouthpiece to ask retarded questions about a fantasy universe from a movie for 12 year olds
he actually admits this time and again, look at any interview hes ever done on the subject

similar to Lawrence Kasdan, who also hates and doesn't get star wars

>>93803293
Which PS2 game is this?

>>93803293
CGIII?!?!?! ME NO LIKEY!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>93803109
Why is she holding that under her leg? That seems intensely dangerous.

>>93803262
And yet he still created something that was unequivocally Star Wars.

Death of the Author, mate.

It's like Moore can write very good comic books despite hating comic books so very much.

>>93803262
Mind posting the interview where he supposedly says this?

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what Atari 2600 game is this

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Ignore the fucking shitposters already

Post starships

>>93803366
>VHS special editions
Gross

>>93803390
Can you post the opening shot of the TFA star destroyer?

Or the opening shot of the RO shuttle?

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>>93803390

>>93803342
>And yet he still created something that was unequivocally Star Wars.

I'd argue, considering it's not canon

>>93803342
>not star wars at all
>unequivocally Star Wars
it couldn't even do the aesthetics right let alone the narrative and themes, despite your eu nostalgia goggles

>>93803351
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/WillOoi/20110623/7848/An_Interview_with_Chris_Avellone__game_designer_writer_and_former_unlucky_schlep.php

>>93801181
I even got first post before he could once, wasn't even the OP, he's really fucking slow now

>>93803390
I already did, but yall motherfuckers ignored it >>93801358

>>93803467
forgot this one
http://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/nonfiction/feature-interview-chris-avellone-game-designer-fallout-new-vegas/
but I think its more important to highlight relevant quotes

>"I basically hate the idea of the Force in Star Wars. And I'm not talking about midichlorians and I'm not talking about the speech that Yoda gives in Empire Strikes Back, which I think is beautiful. What I hate about the Force is the fact that it was this predestination power that ultimate governed all the Jedi and Sith movements, drove them to massacre each other, change the face of the galaxy. All of it felt so predetermined that giving yourself over to this higher power, this higher force seemed to be a way of just giving up your individuality as a character. And that was a very easy concept for me to hate."

>"So the questions I started examining with that hatred in mind was what do Jedi and Sith lose when they embrace the Force and what does the player character and other characters in the game gain by turning away from the Force entirely."

the guy is such a fedoratheist that he cant stand or comprehend a fictional religion in a fantasy franchise

>>93801094
Honest question: am I the only one who remembers all the normies loving the prequels when they came out and thinking that they were perfectly fine? A lot of critics tore them apart, sure, but the average person, at least in my town, seemed to think everything outside of Jar Jar was fine. It's only when the hype for TFA started building up that all of these normie "nerd/geek" types started railing on the prequels so hard. I can't be the only one who noticed this, right?

>>93803293
...At least the first bait image actually looked dumb. This looks perfectly fine to me.

>>93803534
some critics liked it, some critics didn't, most normies and fans loved it, then there was some mild ribbing from comedy outlets, then a bunch of autists started treating those jokes like the gospel many years after the fact

>>93803366
>what Atari 2600 game is this
Fuck you I was gonna make that joke

>>93803534
Everyone I know loved the movies. I remember my mom's boyfriend, and my friends parents all loving the prequels and eagerly using the movies to relate more to us.

They bought a lot of merch too.

I didn't see any rising "mainstream" (see: vocal minority) prequel hate until it started to crop up on the internet circa 2007.

Not saying "JAR JAR RAPED MUH CHILDHOOD" fags like Pegg didn't exist, but I do think normies were generally favourable with the Prequels as they were releasing, much like they ate up TFA.

>>93803559
>>93803534
also if anything, TFA increased the amount of prequel love since it made so many people, even normies, think they were good by comparison, so they went and rethought their lives and then started loving rogue one

the prequel hate really only started up in earnest after ROTS, and came to a head at the end of the decade thanks to the plinkett reviews, but died down with exposure to TCW and is slowly on its way out

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What Dreamcast game is this?

>>93803467
>it couldn't even do the aesthetics right let alone the narrative and themes
Can't agree with that.

KotOR2 really gets it, in my opinion.

Star Wars is about great over arching "fate of the galaxy" shit intersecting with regular shmucks just trying to get by.
KotOR has that in spades.

What about it doesn't feel like Star Wars?
It has a Chosen One, the fate of the Force, the seedy under belly, crime lords, disbelievers, believers, mystics, grand space opera.
It's Star Wars

>>93803599
>hink they were good by comparison, so they went and rethought their lives and then started loving rogue one

What? the normies I know hated it because it was boring and didn't have Jedi in it

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WHAT CATHODE RAY TUBE TRANSITOR OSCILLOSCOPE GAME IS THIS?
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200810/physicshistory.cfm

>>93803559
>>93803590
I don't know whether I should be angry or disturbed that the cultural attitude shifted so drastically, and nobody affected by it seems to notice. They're either pretenders going along with what's cool or sheep who actually gobble up the shit that they're fed. I know I sound edgy saying that, but honestly it's just weird to me.

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>>93802744
I like RLM, but not for Plinket.

>>93803616
>Knights of the Same Exact Technology From the Movies But 3000 Years Ago Republic
no

>>93803664
I blame the Big Bang Theory. And guess what year that started airing?

It was all downhill from 2007 lads

>>93802962
"Rebellion: A Star Wars Game"

Squad-based 3PS/RPG in the vein of Mass Effect. The story is based around the creation of the Massassi group, Jan Dodonna's rebel cell. Recruit new characters through missions. Player choices in and out of combat shape the way the cell operates and their reputation within the rest of the Alliance. Ties directly to Rebels, Rogue One, and A New Hope.

>>93803703
I don't agree with you entirely but I do agree ~2008 pop entertainment hit a low point and hasn't much risen since

>>93803703
2007 was when being a '''''nerd''''' became cool. I know I'm going to sound edgy for saying this, but I can't fucking stand it when normies say they like things just because they're in right now. I like to talk about star wars, and when someone tells me 'the cgi was awful and the prequels RAPED MY CHILDHOOD lol XD' it pisses me off

they don't understand why something is good, they're just told it is, and they go along with it

>>93803616
Someone post that Pablo tweet he he shows what a Kotor-era communicator device should look like.

>>93803699
>I can accept laser swords and space magic, but stagnant technological achievement is ridiculous.

>>93803757
Nice strawman there

ebin

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>>93803390

>>93803757
>space MAGIC
>stagnant TECHNOLOGY

really gets those thrusters intensified eh?

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>>93803754

>>93803757
It is, especially when the films show consistent progress in tech

>>93803699
>>93803754
>muh firm belief in strict technological progress

Guys, the literal premise of Star Wars is "A long time ago".
If it's a long time ago, why do they have space ships?
Why aren't the bashing rocks together?

It's partly based on the Foundation series. Read up some on the inspiration of Star Wars, would you?

>>93803799
>Prequels better tech than Sequels
>but they always show progress!

>>93803699
Stagnation of technology.

>>93803757
The problem is that we see technology improving across the PT, OT and even the ST. Check out holograms. Or compare the manual blockade to the planetary gate.

So we know tech isn't completely stagnated. We even have some lore tidbits explaining how hyperspace travel was discovered.

So to think that technology was stagnated from the Old Republic, all the way until the PT, is ridiculous.

Bioware Old Republic aesthetics are basically just a mesh of OT/PT designs, completely failing to establish the era as a unique historical setting. Something canon media is seeking to rectify.

>>93803757
The Force is the fantasy part. Lightsabers and starships are the sci-fi part. I don't expect great scientific accuracy (sounds in space, duh), but I expect it to follow some kind of common sense and logic. 4000 years ago should look like 4000 years ago, not yesterday.

>>93803833
>shinier = better!
Yeah no, please show us the technology in the PT that doesn't/cannot exist in the OT.

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>>93803390

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>>93803833

>>93803893
Also worth noting that most of the OT is set in outer rim shitholes.

You can better compare Bespin to Coruscant, and the "tech" visuals are much more closely aligned.

Technology never got worse, that's such a dumbfuck notion to make.

>>93803812
>thinks Star Wars is based on Foundation
holy shit you are on a whole new level of retarded I didn't think was possible to obtain
Sperging Saiyan x3

>>93803872
Show us something in the OT that can't be in the PT?

All we see in the OT are the scraps of the PT
Look at the Y-wings between both.

And as your your actual request, look at the cockpit of a Naboo fighter compared to that of an X-wing.

>>93803010
>people pretending CGI is from video games

I hate this meme. Name 1 (one) video game that looks half as good as the CGI in Revenge of the Sith.

>>93803941
Killzone Shadow Fall
unfortunately its a shit game, but I've never seen a game with better grafics

>>93803924
What?
George is clearly a well versed Sci-fi consumer.
It's even called "Jhantor" in some early versions, you fucking moron

>>93803936
You answered your own question, comparing scraps salvaged from the previous war for the Rebellion, to the royal starships of Naboo. No shit the Y-Wing's look worse than they did, and no shit the N1's look sleeker than the X-Wings.

Also, again, this doesn't mean N1's stopped existing during the OT. In fact we literally have a comic where Leia flies in one.

The prequels showed us vibrant core world planets, and literal royalty, so their shit looks nicer. Simple as that.

>>93803941
Star Wars Battlefront (EA)
The people are total shit, but my god, those backgrounds.
The Endor level looks absolutely amazing

>>93803936
>Look at the cockpit of a well-cared for ship in a planetary defense force on a rich planet compared to that of a barely functional ship maintained by a Rebellion without much budget or resources

>>93803747
I was the weird kid in school who read Star Wars EU novels in 8th grade, & when I scroll through Twitter I see people who used to make fun of me for liking Star Wars saying that it's always been their great passion. I couldn't give less of a shit about the rest of the world, but seeing these people that I actually knew being so dishonest & rewriting history is legitimately infuriating.

>>93804011
Why can't vidya do realistic people well?

>>93804001
Ah, but we're talking about PROGRESS, right?
You're now arguing for stagnation, like we are.

How many years between TPM and ANH?
As much as say WW1 and WW2?
Even the most BASIC aircraft in WW2 looks 10x better than the most advanced airplane in WW1.

Clearly the rate of technological advancement is not the same as ours.

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>>93803833
>Jedi Starfighters need an external addon to go to hyperspace
>The similarly-sized A-wing starfighters can go to hyperspace on their own
>"Prequels have better tech than the OT!"

>>93803989
I want you to cite for me the instance where George Lucas suggests Star Wars is based on Isaac Asimov's 20000 page alienless hard scifi technobabble textbook political screed accurately titled "Foundation" (because you can and should use them to fill in the foundation for a skyscraper), instead of Japanese cinema such as Hidden Fortress, 1930s/40s pulp serials such as Flash Gordon, and general romantic fantasy of the Hero's Journey.

>>93804011
If theres one thing you cant fault Dice for, its the visuals.

They literally scan in real-world locations, and props, so the Battlefront games are about as close as you can get to literal interactive live-action Star Wars.

Here's hoping BF2 is as fun to play as as it is to look at this time.

>>93804034
Uncanny valley, humans instinctively know when something is off. That being said, mo-cap vidya performances are getting pretty close, and they serve well enough to be believable as humans.

>>93803936
They had no technology for a Death Star superlaser during the Republic era, it took decades to work out. After they did, and created the Death Star, they perfected it further, making the second Death Star recharge faster. Years later we have the Starkiller base. The technology is progressing forward, not backwards, because otherwise it would be retarded.

>>93804034
Humans are built to recognize the smallest difference between people.
Like, we all think chimp faces look the same
But we think that humans look infinitely varied.

We're really really good at picking up the slightest smallest difference in a person.

>>93804075
>because otherwise it would be retarded.
But it would be consistent with the fall of a Republic and then Empire

>>93804051
the 60 year old F4 Phantom barely resembles the modern day F22 raptor but the internals aren't really much different aside from a few small advanced

additionally, most clone wars fighters (excepting the Y-wing) didn't have internal hyperdrives

you're seeing problems in the movies where there are none to suit your EU revisionist agenda Retard-anon

>>93804051
There hasn't been any major progress in starfighters, because you wouldn't expect a major overhaul of multiple billion ships across the galaxy in just a few decades.

But hologram tech has been used in all three trilogies to display that technology has not been stagnated.

The PT has the static-y blue holograms, the OT has color holograms, and the ST has the perfected hologram.

There's also the Scarif Shield Gate, which is clearly a more advanced and optimal solution from the planetary blockades that the CIS were doing.

>>93804130
Careful with that spacing, he's going to scream reddit at you

Can someone remind me which trilogy had the smaller less advanced ships and which one had the large, deadly imperial warships and two giant planet-killing battlestations? And like, which one had the 19,000m warship and which one had the 1155m one?

>>93804109
remember when the fake plot hole guy talking about bloodtesting the senate for midichlorians and thought Jango intentionally lured Obiwan to Kamino said Dooku never went to Coruscant?

>>93804112
How on earth?

You aren't the shield gate/midichlorians/etc anon by any chance?

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George is such a hack, nothing but bluescreens and CGI. Whatever happened to the real sets and real locations of the Original Trilogy?

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Hmmmmmmmmm

>>93804167
hey the Malevolence was like 3000 meters long
but there were only like 2 or 3 of those and about 20 executors

>>93804154
what I found interesting about the holograms across the saga was that in the PT, you have generally very good but slightly staticky monochrome blue energy holograms, and that as a luxury, then in the OT, you have mostly colored but low quality high static holograms as a stock option for any standard industrial or military apparatus, and then with the ST, you have holograms so good they can fool you into being real, and that's supersecret superadvanced supervillain supertech

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What Sega 32x game is this from?

>>93803603
That's Goldeneye 007 on N64.

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>>93804261
All things in moderation.
Only when you go too far does it become bad

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What Nintendo Game and Watch game is this from?

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>>93804272
>bigger is always better

>>93804272
Where's the Executor?

>>93803603
Dark Forces

>>93804272
The finalizer makes sense, though, considering you can't just cut off the bridge and be done with it

>>93804285
>with the ST, you have holograms so good they can fool you into being real, and that's supersecret superadvanced supervillain supertech
It's been a thing since the Clone Wars, see the Obi-Wan undercover arc, or the Luminara's corpse Rebels episode

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What Atari Lynx game is this from?

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>>93804316
you're right, the Nebulon has been the Objectively Best™ ship for 37 years and it's stayed 300 meters that entire time

>>93804351
Nebulon a shit

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What Commodore 64 game is this from?

>>93804341
and it was supersecret superadvanced supervillain supertech each time

>>93804370
it sounds like the new Starhawk battleship is basically just a giant nebulon and theres those new little resistance bombers which are tiny nebulons

nebulons of all shapes and sizes

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>>93804351

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What Virtual Boy game is this from?

>BB-8 touted as a totally real practical effect NO CGI STUFF HERE NO SIR
>majority of his shots need CGI assistance or are entirely CGI because oops turns out there's only so much you can do with a practical rolling droid prop

>>93804425
This is very aesthetic, what is it?

>>93804425
I need to see this Vader

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What Apple ][ game is this from?

>>93804316
>Venators are shown to be not as well armed and can be overwhelmed
>ISDs can easily take on multiple ships and are much better armed
>Finalizer is even better armed and easily took out a rogue fighter

>>93804441
CYBER PUNK

>>93804425
What Nintendo 64 game is this from

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What Intellivision game is this from?

>>93804441
Star Wars Reimagined

>>93804433
>give noted anti-prequel critic Simon Pegg a practical mask
>give it a CGI face anyway

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What CD-i game is this from?

>>93804517
Hotel Mario

>>93804517
I'm amazed at how many people I've seen say that Threepio was CGI in Episode 1 only to have pictures like this posted.

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>>93804515
>film a scene Adam Driver given a performance
>completely replace him with CGI in post

Imagine the outrage if Lucas did this.

In fact, imagine the outrage if TFA was 100% identical to how it is now, except Lucas made it.

>>93804558
I hate this because Driver is probably one of the best fucking actors in the film, and they just COVER HIM UP for no conceivable reason

>>93804558
The funniest part is that when people saw the demo reel that showed this they were going OMG SO AMAZING I NEVER NOTICED IT'S SO IMPRESSIVE THEY CAN DO THIS

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>>93804442
Close enough!

I just want you all to know that I hate this fucking general. It is the worst fanbase on 4chan, bar none.
You may think that because this is a 40 year old franchise that every angle of discussion has been drained and all that's left is pointless shitposting.
But even /tv/, god damned /tv/, has better Star Trek threads than this.

>>93804558
So wait, the background was fake, the mask was edited onto him... He's basically a glorified voice actor in this scene. Probably not the only case of this too

At least based Sam J explained that the bluescreen stuff in the PT was comparable to stage performances, where you still needed strong acting talents. And the backgrounds in the PT were still usually practical.

>>93804613
I agree, but I come here because its the only general on the site that discusses Star Wars.
I'd go to /swg/ on /tg/ but all they do is discuss fanfiction and spreadsheets.

>>93804558
He is so fucking ugly without facial hair

>>93804613
Fuck you, I've had a good time discussing stuff here tonight.

Sorry you got bootyblasted. Have fun over at /tv/.

>>93804613
Sorry this is the one place in the entire internet where you can actually praise anything about the prequel trilogy, or George Lucas.

>>93804613
Anon, we literally have an entire board dedicated to proving that this isn't the worst fanbase.

>>93804613
>better Star Trek threads than this
what did he mean by this

>>93804654
/r9k/ and /trash/ doesn't count

>>93804654
Two boards.
>/vp/
>/mlp/

>>93804659
That you have two comparable franchises
But one of them just can't have reasonable fun discussions.
>>93804654
Yeah, maybe. But at least /mlp/ is harmonious amongst themselves. They only argue about which horse has the best hooves or whatever the fuck they talk about

Here, you say
>I like this
And you'll have 5 people saying it's shit
It doesn't matter what movie.

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>>93804613
Fuck outta my thread then you dumb nigger

>>93804733
>But at least /mlp/ is harmonious amongst themselves

Have you never been on that board?

>>93804747
Good god why would I?

Have you fucking been?

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>>93804733
>Here, you say
>>I like this
>And you'll have 5 people saying it's shit
>It doesn't matter what movie.
Woah, it's almost like... There is a diversity of opinion...

>>93804760
Then you shouldn't talk about how nice they are to eachother
it was mostly morbid curiosity. How can such a specific board have anything to talk about? atleast /vp/ gets raided and it's hilarious

KOTOR 2's plot is better than most Star Wars spin-off media
Fight me

>>93804770
You can have a diversity of opinion without saying anyone you disagree with is retarded and a shill
>like Prequels
>retard
>like OT
>nostalgia fag
>like VII
>shill
Other fanbases can at least say "I didn't like that as much as X" without resorting to direct insults

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>>93804802
Star Wars Bounty Hunter

>>93804802
*punches you*

>>93804802
I don't disagree.
Continue to enjoy it, my patrician friend

By the way, Bao-Dur's voice is pure sex

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>>93804802
I dont fight losing battles anon

How many padawan were actually seen in TCW besides Ahsoka, Barriss, and that one Mon Calamari guy that Grievous killed?

>>93804887
There was that one Nautolan padawan Savage killed. Do younglings count?

>>93804904
No.

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>>93804916
Well they do to me

>>93804851
Whoever drew this went off-model with making Bariss more attractive

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>>93804887
There were the padawans on the Trandoshan hunting planet

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>the Star Wars comic still isn't even at 1 ABY yet

>>93805092
Almost nothing if substance has happened, too.

>>93804887
they had an entire episode on padawans remember

>>93805092
Corporations are neigh on immortal, anon. They don't have to rush through the years after Yavin to finish the story before they go senile.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Gathering_(episode)

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>>93805092
>>93805109
This is why I dropped it. The Empire/Dark Side stuff has been way better. Hell the only bombshell the main star wars comics have done is name dropping The Hundred Year Darkness

>>93804574
If it was before the face reveal with Rey, I can see why they'd cover it up and save it for that scene.

>>93805124
The lightsaber construction cluster-fuck, right? Were those padawans or younglings on their way to being padawans.

>>93805172
younglings, they don't have lightsabers yet

You can make one (1) change to the new canon.
What is it?

>>93805213
Erase TFA

>>93805092
AFAIK in the comics (industry in general), it takes about 4 years to cover a fictional year. Maybe it's the same for Star Wars.
They'll reach ROTJ in 15 years or so.

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>>93805213
Finish the unfinished TCW episodes

>>93805213
Wat Tambor is the real father of Luke and Leia

>>93805232
Wait nevermind I change my answer to >>93805256

>>93805273
>The Techno Union...EEErr....URRR.....REEEEE... is behind your conception, Luke

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>>93805288