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Does anyone have a worse job than Chief O'Brien At Work?

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This panel never fails to depress me.
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>>93770119
At least he did not get the shit kicked out of him as often as Worf.
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>>93770119
La Forge.

>Hey, I know you're an engineer but we need you to go with the away party to deal with Hostile aliens.
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>>93770119
>Does all the shit work everywhere on the ship
>works in the section that explodes radioactive gas every week
>constantly has to roll under the lowering emergency door or die
>is constantly kidnapped
>constantly experimented on
>mutated into an alien every other week
>only girlfriend is a holodeck program
>has been left for dead on a barren planet at least 6 times


At least O'Brian had a wife and kid
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>>93770234
And O'Brian went on to DS9
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>>93770153
He did get his shoulder fucked up a lot.
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>>93770119
You've never had a job, have you?
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>>93770254
>Implying he isn't shooting lasers from his shoulder
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>>93770234
Loser actually showed off his hologram girlfriend to the woman it was a copy of.
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>>93770352
He didn't show it to her. She found it.
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>>93770286
It is because I had a job as a transpo- subway operator
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>>93770463
So the enterprise really does have a lot of crewmembers with the job consisting of
>Stand right here behind this console for 8-10 hours

And they do it without even being paid for it
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>>93770352
Is that what autism in the future looks like?
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>that episode where his wife was turned into a 12-year-old girl
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>>93770600
He was incredibly awkward around people, but could quote trans phasic quantum particle tachyon polarity warp modulator theory as if he were reading it right out of a textbook...
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>>93770234
>Westley was ten times better at space science and did shit like create his own pocket universe, warp the ship to another galaxy, and they let him fly the ship long after they quit letting Geordi do it
>and he never went to college
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>>93770699
Wesley was the worst part of the show, though.
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>>93770630
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>>93770600
This is what autism looks like in the future. With a rank of Lieutenant.
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>>93770794

Oh my god I forgot about him.
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>>93770726
nowadays Wil Wheaton is the worst part of anything.
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>>93770119
Well, look at it this way: every week he got to shred the bridge crew to pieces. Even if they get put back together again.
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>>93770794
>same guy who voiced Mung Daal
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>>93770834
You know who else you probably forgot?

That whole quartet of autists on Deep Space Nine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MULwIA-NqCM
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>>93770794
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>>93770834
How could you forget about Lieutenant Barkley?

>Writes a holoprogram with his coworkers fawning over him.
>Everyone is okay with him banging real-doll versions of themselves.
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>>93770643
His only friend was an emotionless robot
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Trek '''''villains''''' who did nothing wrong, go!

Hard mode: no Gul Dukat
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>>93770794
Literally /r9k/: the character.

>tfw no Counselor Troi gf
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>>93770699
gtfo wesley

go back to narrating audio books
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>>93771002
>>Everyone is okay with him banging real-doll versions of themselves.
m8 fucking no one was okay with it
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>>93771085
Everyone always quotes the "Shut up Wesley" line but never remembers that Picard was 110% in the wrong there.
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>>93770119
Maybe on DS9 because the engineers always have the most ridiculous jobs:

>"Captain, doing that is impossible according to the laws of psychics"
>"Fuck you do it anyway"
>"But Captain it would take hundreds of years to do that"
>"You have five fucking seconds to do it"
>"okay"
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>>93771145
Of course Wesley was always right
Doesn't exempt him from being a little shit
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>>93770119
It never fails to depress me how the person who made this comic has such a shitty knowledge of the tv show that it is based on. Half of the time the "gags" are based on assumptions made by the author that are disproved if you actually watch the fucking show.
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>>93771060
Reg was awful for so many reasons, chief amongst them being having a garbage-tier waifu.
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>>93770961

Well I never watched DS9. Thank god.
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>>93771039
I don't think anyone is honestly okay with Dukat. As much as I'm okay with interspecies fun; he was /tv/ level of creepy ped. It was even confirmed he knocked up a young servant girl; after he gave a speech about how the bjorans are like children that need love, and hard liquor from his quarters.
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>>93771177
In this instance it wasn't even Wesley being a genius or always being right, it was him FOLLOWING THE ORDERS Picard gave him and Picard pulls that shit.
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>>93771145
In the moment, sure. As a bedrock rule of the omniverse, no he was correct for all times.

At this point it applies to the fuckwit California leftist the actor became irl
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>>93771258
Dukat also went stupid crazy towards the end and sucked it. It's rare to see characters crash and burn so hard.
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>>93771218
DS9 was actually pretty good. Don't confuse ignorance with taste.
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>>93771002
>Everyone is okay with him banging real-doll versions of themselves.

only Riker was okay with it, because it embarrassed Troi. man was he an asshole in that episode.
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>>93771002
>Barkley

tbqh, it's not worse than the time Picard called him Lieutenant Broccoli to his face.
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>>93770119
this comic infuriates me. it's always the same fucking panel and the jokes are never funny.

trekies just set the bar really low.
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>>93771039
Damar
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>In his online reviews of the TNG episodes, Wil Wheaton states that this [The Battle] is the episode in which Wesley went from, in Wheaton's own words, "mildly annoying to vehemently-hated character," talking about how having Wesley figure out the problem and the solution before the senior staff could was "perhaps the worst way to help the audience accept that this kid (Wesley) is going to be part of the main crew." Wheaton also remarked that the scene in sickbay where Wesley tells Crusher and Troi that he "glanced" at the scans while Dr. Crusher was researching them and, quote: "...in that brief moment, magically divined exactly what the rest of the professionally-trained crew – including the hypersmart robot – hadn't noticed: the patterns in Picard's scan are identical to the low-intensity transmissions picked up from the Ferengi ship. Wesley cements his relationship with Trekkies by muttering, "You're welcome, ladies... heh. Adults." after they leave the room. Oh, that's pure genius writing there, guys; that's not going to alienate a single fan. Bravo."
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>>93771323
>tbqh, it's not worse than the time Picard called him Lieutenant Broccoli to his face.

Riker is lucky that Picard didn't have him court-martialed for the look he gave him there.
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>>93771331
Damar was a true hero who gave everything for his beloved Cardassia.
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O'Brien would rather sit in front of a console all day just so he doesn't have to deal with that harpy at home
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>>93771403
Another meme that has no basis in he show.
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>>93771403
>>93771424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kflsuZKZw58
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>>93771039

The Crystalline Entity.
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>>93770794
>Computer, activate program Cave Spelunking 24-Gamma
>Replace all surface textures with the biometric scans of Counselor Troi's colon and intestines taken during her last medical checkup, authorization Barclay Alpha-492
>initiate 'earthquake/mudslide' event and set on continuous loop, maximum difficulty

>disengage safety protocols
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>>93771039
The Borg
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>>93771002
Come on...this is like 99% of what would be happening in a Holodeck and we all know it.
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>>93771513
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>>93771493
>It's a Picard is so high on faggy, idealistic Federation philosophy that he lets a non-sentient piece of rock kill a whole colony episode
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>>93771258
It's really telling that when Dukat got captured by the Maquis the Cardassian Union just went "well I guess he's dead then lol". Yeah he was effective at his job by Reptillian Space Nazi standards, but clearly no one wanted to put up with his creepy rapist and pedophila slant.
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>>93771039
Q
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>>93770119
>>93770463
This makes no fucking sense. Did the creator even watch the show? Last I remembered O'Brian was a well respected member of the Enterprise that no one really disliked. Plus one can argue he had one of the most important Jobs on the entire ship. One wrong move and he could kill an important Alien diplomat and start a galactic War, or kill the Captain. Even the joke of his job being boring doesn't work cause its fucking Star Trek, something is gonna happen every fucking week and I'm sure he has to be extremely careful not to kill anyone he beams up, Or has to have pitch perfect timing and perfect aiming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owyj_5TuHQw
He's seen some shit too. Fuck the creator of that shitty lazy webcomic
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>>93771039
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>>93770119
He gets paid to do nothing and he gets to use the holodeck to fuck whatever he wants.

He has the perfect life.
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Felis catus is your taxonomic nomenclature,
An endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature;
Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses
Contribute to your hunting skills and natural defenses.

I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations,
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents;
You would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.
And when not being utilized to aid in locomotion,
It often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.

O Spot, the complex levels of behavior you display
Connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array.
And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,
I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.
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>>93771645
No one gets paid in the Federation anon. They did away with money.
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>>93771347
Imagine
>Going to Starfleet Academy
>2 years prelim training, 4 years advanced training
>spend 3 years as shit tier ensign on a 3rd rate ship doing Charlie Work everywhere
>finally manage to put your time in and get a promotion or two
>Back to Starfleet Academy for a couple courses in advanced training
>work you ASS off on many a sleepless night to make goddamn sure you are noticed out of a class of 80K
>Finally get that attention, your hard work had paid off and you are getting a position as the bridge crew on the flagship of the fleet!
>Fucking finally you get to pilot the flagship of the Federation the Enterprise, the ship that has saved all of reality at least 20 times by now!
>....lose pilot position to some 15 year old little shit in a striped sweater that never once saw a day of training, never read a manual, never served time on a ship, and is not even a member of Starfleet. He's a fucking civilian......
>kill self
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>>93771645
Nobody gets paid in Starfleet. The Federation is glorified Chinese communism because Roddenberry had a boner for Mao.
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>>93771618
are you me anon?
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>>93770250
And episodes that centered on him were dubbed by the cast & crew. "O'Brien must suffer." Not even joking there.
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>>93771662
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>>93771706
He wasn't in the Federation anymore. Deep Space Nine was in Bajoran space. He was making Latinum off Quark.
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>>93771719
>>93771706
The replicator and the holodeck more than makes up for that. Imagine being able to eat no calorie ice cream that tastes just like real ice cream while fucking and rubbing that ice cream all over whatever monsterous fetish ridden creature you created in the holodeck.
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>>93770836
A man in his 40s should not be wearing emo hair (I think his hairline's receding and he's using the fringe to cover it up).
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>>93771598
>It's a Picard is so high on faggy, idealistic Federation philosophy that he lets a non-sentient piece of rock kill a whole colony episode

This did piss me off, sure preserve other life-forms when you can but not when they're fucking killing you. Are you really fucking telling me they never, ever step on alien bugs or cause microscopic alien bacteria to die by accident when on away missions? I know they've treated alien diseases and don't care about "murdering" a few alien viruses. The Crystalline Entity was just a giant alien virus basically.
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>>93771743

I read that they did this because Miles O'Brien was the only empathizable character on the show.

I could empathize with Sisko too, but only with his frustration and impatience.
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>>93771795
>tastes like real ice-cream
Those fuckers couldn't even synthesize alcohol correctly. God knows what they've done to sugar and cream.
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>>93771795
If that's the case then why don't I just stay on earth and fuck holographic bitches and eat lobster all day? Why sign up to be stuck in a flying death trap halfway across the galaxy?
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>>93770911
Oh wow, I've seen that Car Wash fund drive clip a million times but never recognized him. His voice is so over the top compared to Barkley.
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>MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!
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>>93771842
Maybe it's the safari principle, in order to enjoy how good you've got it, you have to take a whole tour across the galaxy to meet a bunch of subhuman natives living shittier lives.
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>>93771842
Because humanity is driven to explore and to better itself.

Space is the final frontier, my friend. Adventure awaits.
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>>93771868
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzcBiVwL2Mw
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>>93771002
>>93771323
>>93771856

>Barkley

It's Barclay.
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>>93771842
>Why sign up to be stuck in a flying death trap halfway across the galaxy

Kicking actual ass on a real adventure > kicking holographic ass on a fake adventure
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>>93771719
>>93771706

There's no point to money because you have a replicator and a holodeck, you can have or do anything you want to.

People work in that universe because otherwise people think you're a loser. If you get into Starfleet you get to see whole new worlds and galaxies no human has ever seen before and have experience no human ever has. You might get into the history books. People do it for the reasons explorerers always have. People have jobs for the same reason everybody today doesn't just pursue the easiest possible low wage jobs where you get the bare minimum to survive and no respect from anybody.

Some other alien species use money like Latinum though.

Also it's kind of bullshit because people in Starfleet have credits, but maybe that's just to trade with other races.
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>>93771906
Let's be honest, only one out of every thirty missions was exciting. Mostly it was just dull procedural and diplomatic stuff.

>We've been assigned to spend the next two weeks on the Talarious V system to study the effects of modular germination on a species of lowland grass
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>>93771824
Really? I don't remember their names since it's been a while, but I empathized with the doctor and his gay lover quite a bit. I thought they were very realistic characters.
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>>93770555
Just like the real navy.
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>>93771970
>the doctor and his gay lover quite a bit.
Bashir and Garak?
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>>93771970
>>93771999

I was about to ask
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>>93771842
Why do lots of people spend a ton of fucking money climbing Mt. Everest today with a more than 1 in 10 chance of dying while trying instead of just playing on a climbing wall inside or playing a video game about mountain climbing? Even that's not a good example though because in this case you get to do totally new things and learn totally new things and be a hero while still having all the luxuries as you do it. Think of all the people volunteering to die on Mars right now...Starfleet is much more comfortable and while you could die there are also plenty of people who do it and grow old and retire.
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>>93772030
The tailor/spy was my favorite character.
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>>93771950
In Kirk's day the Federation still had a market economy and Federation Credits were the official currency, and in the TNG era it's really only the Federation's core worlds that have gone full post-scarcity, a lot of second tier member worlds and colonies still use money.
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>>93771955
"Exciting" is relative. Starfleet is for scientists and explorers, not children like you looking to jump off mountains.

If you were to join Starfleet, Q would have destroyed humanity right away because you would have shown him that we are indeed a "dangerous, savage, child race"
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What if Janeway was in charge of DS9 and Sisko in charge of Voyager instead?
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>>93772064
>favorite

Garak is the best character in all of Star Trek.
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>>93771814
That's actually something I wrestle with quite a bit in my day to day life. I work as a park ranger and I'm a pretty staunch environmentalist. So, like, logically speaking, it makes far, far more sense to let the bear kill me if I was to get attacked by one. That one bear is much more valuable to the ecosystem than I am, and my death might actually benefit the environment on the whole. But obviously I wouldn't just give in and let a bear kill me in the heat of the moment. Its impossible for me to logically justify this.
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>>93772069
The only reason Q didn't destroy humanity had nothing to do with any future virtues, but the fact that he enjoyed getting under Picard's skin.
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>>93772095
Only one you, more bears where it came from.

Also bear meat is pretty tasty.
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>>93772085
The Maquis would not have had their crimes forgiven and given senior positions on Voyager, for a start.
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>>93772085
Sisko probably would never have let any Borg near his ship, so we wouldn't have Seven of Nine.

Janeway would probably have told Gul Dukat to fuck off a lot sooner.
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>>93770555

I work as an art museum gallery attendant. Can relate.
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>>93772095
>being this much of an eco cuck
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>>93772095
Try to seduce it.
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>>93772128
In the first episode? Hardly.
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>>93770794

TRAAAAAASH

BAAAAAAAGS
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>>93772095
That bear is doing far less to ensure the continued preservation of that park than you are

get a grip
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>>93771717
By the time of TNG, helmsman is generally an ensign position. It's also a teaching position, where young offers get to witness actual commanding first hand while not being part of the process.
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>>93772095
Letting a bear eat you is not good for the environment. Bears don't normally eat people and you don't want to introduce this into their behavior.
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>>93770119
Why didn't they give him a chair? Didn't the original series havr chairs for everyone?
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>>93772206
nope
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>>93770555
Being a real astronaut is even more tedious and a lot of people want to do that. And you don't get to go visit different alien planets on shore leave all the time. You're usually just stuck in a teeny cramped place and at most a few people have gotten to jump around on a rock inside a heavy suit for a very short time.
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>>93772206
It's important that he stands.
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>>93770254
He looks like he doesn't even care anymore. He doesn't even feel pain in that shoulder anymore.
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>>93772030
They did get a little homo
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>>93771842
Fucking boredom, they addressed this in a DS9 episode
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>>93770119
>Chief O'Brien at Work webcomic
>no one has made a Garak's Tailor Shop webcomic
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>>93771513

Are...are you okay, anon?
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>>93772085
Hopefully Janeway would have had a consistent character. There was a lot I liked about her, but it was ultimately drowned out. Like I really liked that she didn't treat the doctor the same as a human. It was a nice change of pace after Picard, but it was so inconsistent that it felt like she was just written as the needs of the plot instead of a real character.
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>>93770153
On TNG. Seemed like he was the piñata of DS9 until Worf stepped back into that role.
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>>93772206
The transporter room didn't have a chair
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>>93772234

That looks in no way ergonomic. Perfect future, my ass. More like workman's comp nightmare.
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>>93770119
Jesus this guy basically became non existent by season 7
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>>93771973
The difference is, they are being paid for it, starfleet people are not

They are standing there because they WANT to stand there
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>>93772196
There are over three hundred people on the wait list for the MA environmental police right now. It's much easier to find a replacement for me than the bear.
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>>93772299
Hadn't he been transferred to DS9 by then?
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>>93772227
>>93772234
I know it makes for more dramatic TV with them falling around but I wonder how many ships are lost because they lack seat belts
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>>93771513
...you've thought about this a lot, haven't you?
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>>93772313
I think it's important to note that the entity was not non-sentient. They were communicating with it before it got destroyed.
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>>93772299
You... You realize that's because he literally left the ship and moved to Deep Space 9, right?
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>>93770352
Actually she found it and it turned out it was absolutely nothing like the real thing
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>>93771999
>Bashir and Garak?

Bashir and O'Brien.
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>>93772308
>they are being paid for it, starfleet people ar

A lot of people would stand around for the possibility of getting to go explore new planets in outer space for the first time though.

>expecteing NEETs on 4chan to understand people who become explorers and scientists even if they don't have to do so to make a living

Never mind.
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>>93772313
Wrong
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>live in futuristic utopia
>entire species and hundreds of other species completely dedicated to educating and improving individuals
>best and brightest of hundreds of billions of citizens compete to attend Starfleet Academy
>so damn good at his job that they make him a station engineering chief without graduating Starfleet

ITT: BTFO ensigns.
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>>93772299
>>93772323
>>93772366

His last appearance is in the 5th season, in 2368.

He transferred to DS9 in 2369.
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>>93770794
I just saw the episode where he became a spider man and accidentally infected the whole ship with a de evolution virus
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>>93772382
>expecteing NEETs on 4chan to understand people who become explorers and scientists even if they don't have to do so to make a living

This.
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>>93772308
You can compare it to me spending hours of frustrating studying to learn Japanese for 0 pay just so I can read obscure masturbatory material.
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>>93772400
NCOs are the real heroes of Star Trek.
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>>93772259
Now why would anyone want to read a webcomic about a simple tailor?
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>>93772419
We don't talk about that episode. Worse than Spock's Brain and A Night in Sickbay combined.
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>it's a Keiko episode

We didn't get nearly enough of these.
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>>93770726
Why did Wesly become such a little bastard by the latter seasons after his fuck up in the academy he was never the same
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>>93771513
This made me picture that old windows screensaver maze but with anus skin instead of walls.
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>>93772472
Come off it, Garak! We know you're no 'simple' tailor.
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>>93772382
There's just so little to do in that future, craftsmen aren't needed, just make shit with replicators, manual labor isn't important and actually less ideal than robot labor because people fuck up. What else are you to do?

Even exploring is just meaningless busywork. Drones can do it better and faster.

How incredibly crushing that future must be.
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>>93772517
People always seem to regard replicator matter as inferior matter, though.

Maybe there's some kind of inherent quality not obvious to us that makes it undesirable.
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>>93772480

>Genesis
>Bad
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>>93772413
Yeah I didn't watch DS9 is it worth watching anyways
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>>93772590
Sisko is trained as a chef, so he doesn't eat replicated food.

He has his own personal garden where he grows his own food.
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>>93772517
Craftsman aren't needed, but artists and creators are. And DS9 shows us that there are still plenty of chefs despite replicators existing. It frees more people up to live their calling since they don't have to settle or do shit jobs to climb up the ladder.

I'm settling by working as a security guard right now and trying to be a toy maker in my off time. If I was in the future, I could give up on my shitty guard job and not have to worry about art supplies. I could start a company tomorrow.
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>>93772607
DS9 is a great show, yes it's worth watching.

It's got the best ensemble in all of Star Trek.
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>>93772590
It's explained very briefly. When you order "earl grey, hot" you get the same exact thing every time. There's no variation, it's one pattern for the replicator. Now think back to the last time you cooked anything twice and tell me it tasted identical both times.
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>>93772607
When the Dominion War heats up it gets rather interesting.

It's always cool to explore the internal politics of Cardassia and Bajor.
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>>93772662

>tfw there will never be a show focusing on postwar Cardassia
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>>93771179
Star Trek is actually one of those complex series that one needs to watch to ever hope to understand. There will always be babbies who like to make fun of it.
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>>93772517
>How incredibly crushing that future must be.

>can choose to just sit around on Earth eating lobster and fucking beautiful women while skiing and swimming every day if you want to without working
>can choose instead to spend your entire life devoted to perfecting your hobby any art you choose, science, etc.
>can be a starship captain fucking hot alien women all day if you want to
>can be ambassador stopping intragalactic wars if you want to
>or a doctor saving hundreds of planets from plagues
>People don't die of 99.99% of what they do right now and live really fucking long

Holy shit sign me the fuck up.

You'd toss that away because you don't have to do manual labor? Shit, they show that if you want to be a waiter or do manual labor or something, you can choose to. You just don't need to. In the way you don't need to have hobbies today but many people do.
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>>93772590
>>93772626
It's undesirable because it makes people uncomfortable with its perfection. Why the fuck do you think tailors still exist? They do a worse job in a world with perfect scanners but it's something to do. Star trek is at its crux just humans and things that think like humans puttering around with nothing to do.

>>93772709
You can get the same effect by staying home and absorbing copious amounts of fictional media while leeching off welfare now.
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>>93770555
No, he also has to hang around and try to fix the damn transporter every time it tries to turn someone inside out.
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>>93772709
>Holy shit sign me the fuck up.

Anon, we both know you wouldn't last a single semester at the Academy.
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>>93771150
The rest of the time he's waving a wand over a beeping panel that might explode at any time. Being an engineer on a starship is suffering.
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>>93772751
>nothing to do

You could argue most people today in developed countries are like that because the number of people it takes to grow all the food needed to simply survive is a very small percentage of everybody, but I wouldn't trade this for going to the worst parts of a third world country just because everyone must work on farms all day long to survive. Most people's jobs aren't needed to people to live long enough to pop out babies and then die enough for the species to keep existing that doesn't mean everyone is doing "nothing." Hell when you get right down to it, human don't need to even continue to exist, nor do any other species.

>>93772751
>You can get the same effect by staying home and absorbing copious amounts of fictional media while leeching off welfare now.

In most countries no you can't afford any food you want for every meal every day and to go to resorts on vacations and to fuck any person you want to on welfare. I doubt you can do that anywhere.

And good luck getting to visit another planet right now. Watching YouTube videos is not the same thing as getting to be Captain Kirk. Or even getting to pay with a holodeck and a replicator all day.
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>>93772511
He's also a pretty good gardener
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>>93771618
This is such a great scene. You could imagine it could have gone stereotypically the same way any time the good guy opens up to a bad guy (who's sympathy is a lie, of course), with the bad guy revealing at the end his true nature, causing the protag to feel embarrassed/naive for having ever trusted him.

But no, O'Brien is not asking for friendship, or understanding, or even an opportunity to vent anger from the Cardassian, no. O'Brien is simply dealing with his emotions openly next to a possible foe, not giving a fuck, admitting that his hatred for his foe stemmed partly from his own human weakness, and then walked away like a mofo, not having given in to any base desires.

I imagine this might've ffing scared the lights out of that thoughtful Cardassian, knowing their foes might not be emotionally manipulable to the slightest extent.
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>>93772698
There's a few novels that focus on it

The one Garak's actor wrote is pretty good
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>>93772607
Like the other Star Trek shows, it takes a while to find its feet, but once it does it's arguably the best series.
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>>93772796
Different anon here, but no one would unless they were literal Newtons or Laplaces.
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>>93771347
We have reason to dislike Wheaton now but his reviews of the episodes he was in are fucking savage and hilarious, followed up by genuinely warm and interesting memories acting in them.

Pity you have to use the wayback machine to read them.
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>>93773232
Nog made it through the Academy.
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>>93770153
Not familiar with "O' Brien must suffer", then?
The Chief had it much worse.
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>>93773060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2q4NPa56v0
Andrew Robinson played a classic wacko in one of the Dirty Harry movies and was typecast for years. This role was an amazing redemption for a character actor.
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>>93773026
>But no, O'Brien is not asking for friendship, or understanding, or even an opportunity to vent anger from the Cardassian, no. O'Brien is simply dealing with his emotions openly next to a possible foe, not giving a fuck, admitting that his hatred for his foe stemmed partly from his own human weakness, and then walked away like a mofo, not having given in to any base desires.

Here, let me condense that for you.
> He's Irish
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>>93772313
Clearly, the solution is management of the environmental police. I suggest a tag system, say limit two per hunter per year, with a population survey after 3 years.
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>>93771085
it's funny how butblasted he still is over people qouting this line to him constantly.
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>>93773417

that was him?
i just knew him as the wacko from hellraiser
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>>93773522
It's because it invalidates his inner SJW irl now.
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>>93773449
Then the Cardassians have every right to fear the Irish.
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>>93770630
>>93770779
>she still tries to be close and intimate with him
>didn't even consider that he might feel uncomfortable kissing a 12 year old
Girl was kinky.
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>>93773522
Most actors would be.
>I'm Rick James, bitch!
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>>93771662
I unironically think this is a great poem.
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>>93773962
That's not even the best line from the sketch.

>FUCK YO' COUCH, NIGGER!
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>>93770779
Not sure if anyone would let this on TV today. But if this was a currently running show there would be weird fanfiction and porn of O'Brian, loli Keiko, and the Cardassian scientist that wanted his dick.

At least he was weirded out about it.
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>>93771662
I never noticed it before, but isnt spot sentient? Just not sapient? I mean, are cats not considered sentient?
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>>93774103

Yes, but people misuse sentient all the time.
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>>93774321
surprised star trek made the mistake. Isn't it supposed to be very science oriented?
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>>93773522
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>>93772088
I don't know about best, it depends on the perspective you come at it from, but he's my favorite from a show full of great characters.

>>93772147
>Janeway would probably have told Gul Dukat to fuck off a lot sooner.
I want to see them in a shuttle together.
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>>93771218
>Thank god.
DS9 was great, especially Quark episodes.
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>>93774401
This is easily one of my favorite things.
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>>93771933
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>>93774441

Come to Quark's
Quark's is fun
Come right now
Don't walk, run!
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>>93770794
>tfw working my way through TNG with my gf
>we're about to reach this episode

I'm scared bros
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>>93771814
But the thing in that episode was that nobody really KNEW what the Crystalline Entity really was or was not, in actuality. People made assumptions, just like you did in your post, but nobody knew, because it was so dangerous, singular, and fast.

It was only in that episode that the possibility to communication was made manifest, a chance to determine whether the CE (man, what a pair of initials there) was actually intelligent or not, and if so, whether it might be possible to get it to realize that humanoids were sapient as well, and maybe it could stop eating them/us.

Picard was just saying 'hey, let's try actually seeing if we can talk to it, now that we have a method to maybe do so, before we just straight up kill it'. Given that being able to communicate suggests it wasn't, in fact, just some giant alien virus basically, going straight to murder, and not acknowledging that it had as much of a right to exist as any other sapient being (assuming it was killing people without realizing they were sapient too), would be an extremely un-Picard and un-enlightened Feddie type thing to do.

If it replied with 'fuck y'all, you taste delicious, I'm gonna keep eating you', well, I'd imagine he'd have a somewhat harsher set of options ready for plan B.
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>>93774103
>>93774321
>>93774365
I considered it a deliberate shift by Data, after all it IS poetry.
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>>93774690
Quark's evolution from trash person to slightly less trash person was oddly refreshing in this franchise of soapboxing (and I love this franchise). Jadzia and Sisko had some pretty heavy episodes but at his best Quark is tolerably sexist and probably not going to sell you into slavery.
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>>93774906
This is because Quark is a people person

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7hb00_regis-kathie-lee-with-quark-from-st_shortfilms
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>>93774442
It's fake.
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>>93776357
It's not fake as much as it is re-arranged to jab at Wil
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>>93772206
TOS didn't always have an attendant on duty. The transporter room is empty a lot of the time.
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>>93773026
don't forget whatever O'Brien did at Setlik III was a big enough deal that Starfleet called him the hero of it and Garak talked about all the Cardassians he had killed when they got stuck on Empok Nor
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>>93772298
Nothing in Star Trek is ergonomic even the phasers are a bitcg for your wrist
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So has anyone been keeping up with Mirror broken is it any good?
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>>93771824
>that episode of DS9 where he's a clone and everybody knows it but him and suddenly the crew starts hunting him down like an animal

Poor guy.
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>>93770630
>that episode where his daughter become adult
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>>93777038

>That episode where Molly was older than you
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>>93774089
>the Cardassian scientist that wanted his dick.

He made the wrong choice.
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>>93774089
>not let this on TV today
why wouldn't it? Normal people aren't going to be obsessing about lolita overtones or thinking about the 2 TB of jailbait porn stashed on their computer while watching it, it would just be humorous to them.
Also this is the same Star Trek that had one of the first lesbian kisses on TV that received outcry and hate comparable to the fallout of the interracial Kirk/Uhura kiss in the original series.
Just about everything DS9 did would be tame by today's standards.
You just can't separate a TV plot from your own sick fantasies
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>>93770794
A /co/ classic
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>>93771513
This makes me wonder about all the sort of twisted stuff we never saw in the holodeck simulations you could do anything in there
What would you do in the holodeck /co/?
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>>93773816
I really wish more sci-fi would go into things like that for other species. I want to see Klingon Ireland, full of scientists that think the rest of their race is savage or a Ferengi hippy commune, or a Wookie from northern Kashyyk having no idea what the fuck a wookie from the south is saying because they speak different dialects. Too much fiction treats alien races as a single unified species. You've seen one, you've seen them all.
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>>93771838
Actually if you ask for regular alcohol then it will be made. You just have to say alcohol so the computer does not go to the default mode synthehol.
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Ok, why would you buy food from this guy's place? I mean i get the alcohol, that shit is shipped in form people who make it the old fashioned way. However, I have seen that the food is made from the replicator...why would you buy it when you can just go to the replomat or your own quarters for free?
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>>93778408
DSP replicators were pretty shoddy. Pus, only Quark might have the patterns for certain kinds of food.
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>>93778408
Atmosphere.

Plus, are the replicators free? Bajor isn't part of the Federation. Nothing else on the station is free.
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>>93778435
*DS9 replicators
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>>93778408
I always got the feeling that on DS9, the replicators were regulated in some way. Like ration tickets, or you need certain clearance levels to access certain replicator patters or something like that.

Either that, or they just pay for the atmosphere because there's fuck all else to do with your money than eat out.
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>>93771950
That's just for trading with other races, the credits are basically worthless inside of Federation space.
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>>93778359
>r regular alcohol

Replicated alcohol is terrible. It has no bite.
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>>93772144
Then they would have destroyed themselves from the inside out because the ship was basically populated by 50/50 Federation and Maquis.
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>>93772254
That or it's a brand new one because he tried to do that fucking kayaking program again.
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>>93778542
They would have been dumped on some planet, I'm sure of it.
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>>93773380
Nog was taught by his dad who was able to repair a busted holodeck with a fucking spatula.
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>>93771513
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>>93778443
I remember when O'Brian and Bashir were about to eat a small feast and then when they were suddenly unable to, Quark did tell them that there were no refunds.
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>>93778727
Good luck taking care of a ship with a skeleton crew and everybody basically has a doubled workload.
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>>93778493
I remember that episode when Worf shows those Irish stereotypes how to use the replicator, they seemed to take to that smoking Klingon drink pretty well.
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>>93778435
I remember this one theory went that food replicators were generally making the food to be as healthy as possible. Maybe at Quark's the replicator is reprogrammed so that instead of being healthy the food tastes really good, and like an anon mentioned before there are multiple variants of each dish so then you don't get the exact thing each time.
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>>93772313
Anon the default reaction to animal attacks of that magnitude is put the fucker down. The only thing gained is one less tree hugger cuck.
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>>93771150
I remember in TNG Scotty admitted he would fudge numbers and bullshit about how hard his job was just to make himself look better when he pulled things off

>>93771145
t. gene wesley roddenberry
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>>93776819
Is that mirror universe Wesley torturing a dude?
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>>93779308
Yes and the dude is Picard
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>>93779390
Kinky
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>>93774401
He actually keeps a list of everyone he's blocked for saying that, and gives it to his "celebrity" friends so they can block the same people.
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>>93779390
Then why did the artist trace Bruce Willis instead of P. Stew?
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Friendly reminder that it was based Janeway who defeated the Borg once and for all.
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I like Q's draconequus and Whoopi's zebra counterpart
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>>93780026

Janeway just pissed off the Borg and encouraged them to kill 63 billion people.
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>>93780133
Janeway killed the Borg Queen, who considered Janeway her arch enemy btw, and crippled their operations in the Alpha Quadrant.
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>>93780156

wait, picard killed her in the 2nd movie when they went back to the past. how the fuck janeway do the same thing?
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>>93780105
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4 lights
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>>93772265
Barclay was never really okay
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>>93779671
>tfw no matter how bad it gets you will never burn out to the point where you become a low-rent version of Shia LeBoeuf
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>>93780185
didn't the movie take place after Voyager?
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>>93780470
I'm sure one day we'll hear of how Wheaton got so assblasted by shitposters on 4chan that he went through several political activism shenanigans before losing it when the very same shitposters decided to play international CTF with him
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>>93778999
>Irish dude complains the replicators can't make "real" whiskey
>Worf makes him a super Klingon cocktail
>guy literally can't speak after one sip

I liked that episode Riker killing his own clown notwithstanding

Also
>hot Irish redhead barking orders at her men and THEY LISTEN

Be still, my beating heart
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>>93780185
Something something "you only think in three dimensional terms"

To be frank, the Borg Queen was never supposed to exist. The Borg were always meant to be a faceless, unrelenting force, but when time came for a movie they needed an on screen villain for someone to punch, so we got the Queen.

Despite the fact her very existence contradicts everything the Borg are about
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>>93780542
>be a 40 year old child star with blue emo hair
>have a burnt to a crisp wife with two adult gay sons from another marriage
>hate the character that made you famous
>hate the fans who hate that character even more
>can't even pull off a crappy youtube series without running it into the ground
>can only get work from fans of the character you hate that take pity on you now.

Still, he's way ahead of most child stars.
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>>93772095
If you let the bear kill you, they're going to kill the bear anyway.
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>>93780664
>Despite the fact her very existence contradicts everything the Borg are about

Elaborate.
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>>93780664
>To be frank, the Borg Queen was never supposed to exist
It could have been an interesting idea, but it was implemented in the most boring way possible. Instead of showing how her individuality was a strategic benefit, they just said "Lol like ants or something" and called it a day.
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>>93773816
I put no effort into this.
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>>93780789
The fact that she's an individual mind, when the Borg have always been a hivemind collective with no individuals whatsoever. The fact she also desired Pica--sorry, Data as a partner/mate with their own individual mind intact went against the whole "service us [the species]" schtick the Borg have always been about
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>>93780470
Shia LeBoeuf is now a low-rent Shia LeBoeuf.
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>>93780664
This.
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Am I the only one who wanted to fuck the Borg Queen?
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>>93770911
It's also Howling Mad Murdoch from the A-Team.
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>>93780833
>It could have been an interesting idea
No it couldn't have.
Unless you destroy every single borg except one
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-Gul Dukat's entire life consists of going from having all of the power, to none of the power in a blink of an eye.
-Fed Creds wouldn't be worthless outside of Fed space, because you can always find someone willing to go to Fed space and use those credits to get the stuff they don't make on his home planet.
Also, Romulans.
-Kei Wynn did nothing wrong until the Necronomicon, but we expected everything to go wrong every single time.
-The Feds might not have a money system but that can make your life even worse. It's a pro-hippie culture- do you think they'd bat an eye at "reclassifying" you out of your apartment? No, you get to live a natural life sleeping on grass and dressing in sheepskin, you lucky man you. You had better have taken a few Fed academy classes because you're going to want passage to the next settler planet if you want to live somewhere other than the relicator-less post-WW3 version of the canadian rockies.
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>>93779280
relayed as part of a conversation between scotty and laforge, basically told laforge to always overestimate how long something took because not only would be he told to do it faster by commanders but also so hed look better
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>>93779921
i thought it looked a little like captain sisco
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>>93781314
No, it could have.

Play up the drama by having the Queen make a series of seemingly irrational decisions based on pride or ego. Picard and the gang go in thinking they have at least a semblance of understanding about the Borg Queen's very "human" motives, but then have the Collective Consciousness of the Borg reassert itself and reveal it was all misdirection to obfuscate their true motives.

It's a good tactic. Human's worst habit is anthropomorphising non-Humans and ascribing human motives to them.
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>>93781644
Could be something that they decided to experiment with after Hugh returned to their collective to see if it had any sort of benefits.
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>>93771218
DS9 was great. I liked that it was less human centric than other trek shows. Plus it had a good central cast.
>>
I knew almost nothing about DS9 before I started watching it a few months ago and never saw anyone talk about it, and now whenever I go into a Star Trek related thread I see several posts about DS9 being great, even to the point where some people say it's the best.
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>>93772796
There were civilians on Federation ships. You could be like that bartender who hung out playing poker with both Picard's senior officers and those from the lower decks without the burden of rank.
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>>93770726
>Worse part of the shows.
>Not the endless awful go nowhere romance subplots.

Fucking plebs.
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>>93781771
DS9's usually the one people either say is the best or the worst depending on what they want out of Star Trek. No Starfleet captain before or after would be able to live with the decision Sisko made in Pale Moonlight.
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>>93781828

>Picard and Crusher never hooked up

REEEEEE
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>>93781644
>>93781732
Then they stop being what made them interesting
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>>93781845

Janeway could live with it, and happily do it twice more before killing a fellow starship captain for daring to attempt it.
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>>93781904
There you just summed up the major problem's with how people wrote Janeway.
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>>93781877
>A perfect Utopia.
>People still hook up.

How can you make such a fundamental mistake in the shows lore?
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>>93781972
Yeah, that's obviously why the Orion slavegirls shouldn't have been dropped from the show.
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>>93781972
That's the thing commies will never understand. You can legislate me food, water, healthcare and everything else but you can never legislate me love
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>>93781845
>you may very well have just saved the ENTIRE Alpha Quadrant!
>And all it cost you were the lives of one Romulan senator, and one criminal.......and the self-respect of a Starfleet captain
>Now....I don't know about you, but I'd call that a bargain

Best line from best episode from best character.
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>>93781845
Sisko could barely live with it. DS9 was about the ideal Federation world being tested and pushed to it's limit. The people all tried their best to maintain their Federation ideals in the face of this horror.

I mean, holy shit, the episode where they're hold up defending this base and they're deep in the fucking trenches and Nog loses his leg?

I've never seen anything like that in Star Trek before. It was brutal. It was gritty and it sort of felt real.
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>>93781845
His actions in "For the Uniform" were pretty unique too.
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>>93781771
>>93781845
>>93782279
>>93782330
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>>93770153
there was the time his wife got deaged to a child and it almost destroyed his marriage because he didn't want to look like a pedophile.
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>>93770555
Star Trek doesn't really take place in a post-scarcity economy it takes place in a post labor economy where most people live on basic universal income since most jobs are done by robots and intelligent computers, so everyone that does have a job only has one because of a underfunded public works program called "starfleet" which only exists to provide the bored jobless population with useless busy work to ocuppy their time and prevent them from going insane.
>But what about matter replicators!?
Replicators are a lie they are a fabricated beacon of hope created by the federation to make everyone think a solution is just over the hill, it's really just a cardboard box with some lights and a guy on the other side of the wall with a bunch of degronos frozen pizzas.
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>>93780664
They always had hive queens, but since they're one of billions it made sense one wasn't seen until Voyager. Just because they're part of the hive mind doesn't mean they aren't bereft of personality. You're defining the whole by the drones. Locutus was basically a hive queen until he was liberated, because his insight and intuition could prove useful for an assimilation attempt.

The Borg Queen that lead the mission to alter all time was one of many Borg Queens.

Enter Delta Quadrant Borg Queen. She is one of several, identical Borg Queens that the parents of Seven of Nine managed to suss out before their death/assimilation. This happened after the events of First Contact.

There is another Borg queen encountered in the Borg story campaign of Star Trek Online.
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>>93771145
>but never remembers that Picard was 110% in the wrong there.
>-Wesley
I don't care if it was a hate plague or whatever there is never a wrong reason to tell WIl Wheaton to shut up
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>>93772265
>>93772350
>>93778832
It's a very popular /tv/ meme
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>>93773026
There is no evidence that that cardassian wasn't being sincere to O'Brien.
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>>93771513
>not posting the spaghetti version
6/10
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>>93783224
It originated on a different board.
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>>93771513
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>>93780664
IMO, the Borg Queen in First Contact would have worked if they described her as a Locutus type. One of the crew assimilated to fuck with Picard as the Borg run rampant on his ship. OR, since they hired Alice Krige, the body's an old flame of Picard's assimilated earlier and that makes it on to the ship, again to fuck with him. I'd kind of dig a Borg that held a sort of detached grudge against Speakers that left the Collective.
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>>93778408
remember, Quark also serves imported food. Remember those peanuts the cross dresser introduced him to that made you drink everytime you ate a piece?
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>>93771513
kek
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>>93783613
So regular salted peanuts?
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>>93770119
In TNG, he stands at a console, and pushes a button, George Jetson style. DS9, it's revealed that O'Brien fought in the war against the Cardassians, and killed more of them than he can remember.
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>>93780026
She was the best captain, but the most boring character. I think in the 90's they were still worried that having a female leader who is not perfect would be seen as sexist. Picard was an irritable, socially awkward, impulsive jerk compared to Janeway; but he was way better to watch because of it.
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>>93780664
As a kid I loved the Borg but in retrospect it makes no sense. Why not just upload everyone consciousness into a computer and only make remote controlled rbot forms when you need to. Keeping the organic parts seems inefficient now. Also everybody uploading their mind into a computer makes more sense now. I feel like an intellar humanity will actually probably be more like that than Starfleet if we don't destroy ourselves first.
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>>93770119
God, would it embarrass the federation to give him a fucking CHAIR?
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>>93770192
technically that's.. kind of everyone. None of the execs should be going on missions but it'd be a more boring show if they just sent redshirts down
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>>93781771
I only watched it many years later, after hearing DS9 turned into the best show for years, but DS9 actually is the best show. I never believed it before I watched it myself. It just takes a while to get going.

I used to like TNG the most. I still love that and TOS, but DS9 had amazing arcs. Just the Federation being pulled into the conflict it was and the shifting alliances were amazing. The Pale Moonlight was one of the best TV episodes I've ever seen. Just great.
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>>93784414
>it'd be a more boring show if they just sent redshirts down

I think a show that focuses on a bunch of juniors officers and crewmen that aren't in control of the mission and have to figure out how to get shit down would be pretty good.
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>>93784455
That episode of TNG that did that was great. Any of the comics like that?
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>>93781972
Star Trek has "Holo Suites" for that though, it's even a regular thing in DS9. Making look alikes of people you know like Broccoli does or real people like LaForge does is considered creepy but I don't remember any trouble with having sex with generic holograms mentioned.
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>>93782819
>Be the one man in the federation that can get up in some underage pussy
>Don't do it

What
The
Fuck

Obrian got everything he deserved in my opinion.
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>>93784488
Ryker fucking falls in love with one early on.
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>>93771145
First season Picard was wrong a lot.
>>93771179
it was true of his old job. back when he barely had a name.
>>93771265
the fuck? Wil's one of the best.
>>93771294
I loved how his hypocrisy showed so hard with that. as soon as he saw the midget version of himself, he tried to delete the whole thing.
You also have to love their assumption that whatever their personal opinion was, it should immediately be enforced as if it's the rule, no question.
>>93771662
I love how both he and riker did the emphasis wrong in the first sentence
>>93771814
They seriously had no idea what to do with him at first. I almost think that episode where he's replaced with a creepy double was kind of meta commentary on that. He was season 1 picard.
>>93772298
you know what though, as often as there were major security slipups in the transporter room, maybe it's for the best he wasn't any less alert. the slipups were rarely his fault though. usually someone else at the controls.
>>93772506
at first wesley was supposed to represent the likely viewer of star trek: a genius who wishes people understood how special he was, but unfortunately finds out that people are gonna hate you if you act even remotely like you're aware of your specialness, so you have to just button it down and act normal. but just like bobby hill, he went from savant to 'ugh teenagers these days, what cunts they all are for no reason'
>>93773863
man everyone is 'enlightened' in that future. but sensibly, not homos. because they probably cured whatever imbalance that is. They've met 13 kinds of childlike aliens and had to accept that if they have adult brains it's cool. Sadly, O'Brien is an oldfashioned cuss who can't just roll with having a hot young wife.
>>93774321
fuck that, sentient means what star trek said. fuck that sapient bullshit. there's no point in having a word for "not a person but sort of aware it exists". that's meaningless.
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>>93774906
ds9 was the realistic show. which meant it tossed out a lot of that socialist nonsense while trying to give legit explanations to both sides of issues so you could analyze them logically. combining logic and genuine heart is not an easy thing, but ds9 did it

though every once in a while sisko got all pissy about MUH BROWN PEOPLE even though that hadn't been an issue for 400 years and he literally works with blue and orange and iridescent people.
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>>93780608
Yeah everyone hates that one but it was.. kind of sweet in its own way.
and yeah that was a hamfisted abortion moral, which (naturally) shot itself in the foot by explaining exactly what their stance is: if it came out of my body, i have the right to kill it at any time.
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>>93778773
he was also illiterate a few years prior. That's damn quick learning. obviously the four-lobed brain is more superior than we give it credit for
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>>93779031
Troi did once ask for a 'real' sundae
the replicator basically gave her a nanny-state speech about how that's not good for her (apparently even in the future people haven't gotten over the muh fats n sugars meme), but if she wants to override the standard nutrition settings (basically there so you can go on autopilot and eat whatever you want and always get what you need), she just has to put in her code. then she got distracted before she could do so. It seemed clear though if she wanted one, she could. Though in the future, we always saw her going to guinan's for desserts. Whoopi don't play. She's got the real puddin' back there.
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>>93784614
The only time racism got brought up was in the episodes set in the past.
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>>93770699
Talk about a bell curve!
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>>93784278
When they were conceived, the idea was just that they were a unique kind of organism that uses tech to improve themselves.
by the time they became the space vampires of voyager, people were coming down from the silicon high of the 90s, and there was this paradigm that organic computing was the future. Hence bio-neural gel packs, etc. see also Beast Machines.
On some level it makes sense to try to hone the best that biology can create, combined with the best of inorganic machinery
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>>93772129
Can you burgerize a bear? I'd like to try that.
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>>93772480
>We
9 hours and no one called out the reddit, I'm a bit ashamed /tv- oh wait, this isn't /tv/. Shit, that explains so much of this cringey thread now.
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>>93784696
Okay I'm exaggerating, but it was still really out of place when Sisko was like 'i don't wanna go to vic fontaine's because you've whitewashed the racism they had back then' and it's like.. have you ever run a fuckin robin hood program or anything? youre cherrypicking a bit. also swing music is terrible, why not just say that?
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>>93770352
and according to the extended universe he fucking married the bitch. she saw his power levels and still ended up boning and marrying him

checkmate fedora wearing peoples of 4chan.
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>>93782273
that just makes me think of the several times Ferengi perfectly explained why capitalism rocks
>that metaphor about the continuum of wealth. posessions and money going from 'have' to 'want' and back, each person ending up with 'more' than they had, thus wealth growing until everyone's happy, even if a few at the bottom never will be, which keeps the whole thing flowing even better
>that time Quark explains to the terrorist that "AT ANY COST" thinking is retarded, because your enemies will make sure said cost is as high as it can be, until you can't pay it.. meanwhile if you haggle, you can get peace at a bargain
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>>93783963
they fucking established he was in the federation cardassian war in TNG. chain of command i think
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>>93784790
that is fucking weird. she just left her husband? or maybe he died..
honestly when I read that, I assumed it meant he created a holo gf. I mean shit, once Schmullus gets back, that shit would pretty much start up, with holopeople everywhere being treated just like regular people.. nevermind how easily they can be hacked or wiped or reproduce out of control
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>>93784778
You're also skipping over the fact that his girlfriend immediately called him out on his bullshit for what it was.
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>>93784838
husband died.

In the anti-time future (2395) experienced by Starfleet captain Jean-Luc Picard, Geordi La Forge was married to a woman named Leah. It is implied, but not conclusively stated that this is Leah Brahms. (TNG episode: "All Good Things...")
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>>93784590
Learn to respond to posts individually. Not reading a word of this.
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>>93784813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TREQGl54BU8
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>>93784912
This, that post was cancer.
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>>93784881
>wait patently for husband to die
>jump her at his wake
>takes advantage of her weakened emotional state
>puts a ring on it the moment he smells that puss

I liked jorde but he was one hell of a beta orbiter fuckboy

>>93784912
>>93784937
>read the post that was a (you)
>if you have no (you)s dont read it
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>>93770119
I had never heard of this comic until you posted about it. Very funny. Thanks for bringing it to my attention
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>>93784927
Garack's lines are always the best.
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>>93784614
How did it toss out the socialist stuff? I mean people still only work if they feel like it and their needs are basically provided by the state.
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>>93784762
Who invited the faggot?
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>>93784813
>>that time Quark explains to the terrorist that "AT ANY COST" thinking is retarded,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdQcGzbpN7s
There's nothing like a little manipulation through common sense.
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>>93784912
>respond to posts individually
>he would have had to make 10 separate posts

That would just be a huge waste of time. Although no one in their right mind needs to respond to that many posts from so long ago in a thread.
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>>93779390
I thought Mirror Universe was dominated by Cardassian/Klingon Alliance by the time of TNG?
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>>93781015
I can agree on Data, but at the same time the idea of a singular mind to organize/direct the Borg wasn't itself bad. There would have to be at least some "Hub" which served to direct the localized network of each ship as a larger entity to endure cohesion

The flaw was in making her humanoid instead of some great mass/installation way out of harm's way.
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>>93780494
No. First Contact would take place during about season 3 of Voyager.
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>>93782279
DS9 was all about flipping over the rock of the Federation and seeing all the bugs crawling around underneath. Given the high-flying Utopian feel of TNG and that Voyageur never seemed to really test Federation ideals in a way that required compromising them, it's a nice change of pace to see the high-minded idealists revert to some brutal backstabbing and vicious behavior.
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>>93781477
>The Feds might not have a money system but that can make your life even worse. It's a pro-hippie culture- do you think they'd bat an eye at "reclassifying" you out of your apartment? No, you get to live a natural life sleeping on grass and dressing in sheepskin, you lucky man you.
Are you literally retarded? There is zero evidence of any form of redistribution of wealth in the Federation. Getting tired of ignorant asshats who never watched the series more than once when they were teenagers thinking the Federation is "socialist".
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>>93785299
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>>93784778
I think it was more they wanted to at least acknowledge it for the viewers.
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>>93772147
>Janeway would probably have told Gul Dukat to fuck off a lot sooner.

You mean made him first officer and the two would be completing each other's sentences every scene?
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>>93771373
Including his liver.
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>>93771662
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>>93770153
Literally every season had a "Let's make this guy fucking suffer" episode.
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>>93772299
>>93772323
>>93772366
>>93772413
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>>93778466
>else to do with your money than eat out.
Did starfleet people even get paid? Where did they get their money from?

>>93779031
This might make sense. Maybe his food isn't the healthy version like the Starfleet standard ones.
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>>93784614
It really didn't toss out socialist stuff and even TPM was at heart Spock's "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" in a sense.

Instead of being on some typical political spectrum we might think of, it was more, "Do the ends justify the means?" During this mind boggling overwhelming war for the fate of half the galaxy you didn't always have the luxury of being "honorable" or moral as you traditionally thought against an enemy with the morals...it was deeper than most go team politics or ideas about running economies people banter about.
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>>93784688
The "real" stuff either actually tasted better or more interesting or people just think it does, or it's the "experience" just like fodies today.

Replicators with safety controls turned off that could make real alcohol, were loaded with sugar and salt and fat and hot sauce, maybe they'd be better but against regulation in Starfleet.
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>>93785605
There's literally no reason to redistribute wealth when capital is unnecessary and everyone seems willing to part with good or services without relying on a barter system (probably because they live in a situation where capital is pointless). Contemporary notions of wealth or its redistribution don't make sense in the context of the Federation.
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>>93772782
>tries

That implies sentience and malice. And while it might be a bit late for this kind of talk, I'm not prepared to totally dismiss such notions out of hand.
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>>93771513
It's a good thing you're a trekkie, so you don't even have to go under sterilization. Those degenerate genes will never reproduce
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>>93770643
Geordi was actually really upbeat and friendly, like he was just a kid that realized they would pay him to nerd out all day in engineering. It's just the show felt an overwhelming need to shit on him for loving his job
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>>93772129
There's literally seven billion yous
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>>93772661
I've cooked the same meal every night for three years. The only times it's tasted different is when I overcook a part of it.
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>>93774365
The do it all the time. Only hardest of sci fi bother s making the distinction between sentience and sapience. Its depressing really>>93774441
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>>93780185
The queen is an avatar. When one dies, they make a new one.

In the books, Janeway was assimilated and made queen at one point.
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>>93771145
spotted Wesley
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>>93784151
I got the exact opposite impression. Janeway was stubborn irrational and outright wrong way more than Picard, and gets progressively worse as time goes on. But fuck is she fun to watch
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>>93780026
>janeway best girl
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>>93771468
Legit half of these are from an episode were O'Brien was a replicant, and another were Keiko had been possessed by a Pah Wraith.

O'Brien as a replicant is a seriously good episode, though. That scene where they're eating together becomes tense as fuck in retrospect, when you know Keiko really wanted to sneak out on the android that's acting like her husband, with no idea what he might do if he figured he'd been found out.

Of course, he's such a perfect copy that all he does is just suffer until he's finally gunned down, and the people he thinks are his friends talk over his dying body as if he's an object.
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>>93778287
To be fair, Star Trek treats humanity that way, too. WE know O'Brien is Irish and exhibits some cultural characteristics. But generally speaking, he's a human Earthling who's basically identical to other human Earthlings.

We've probably seen Klingons Irishmen all the time, but simply don't know that the type of gagh they're eating is their equivalent of Irish whisky.

TNG was even more on the nose with this, boldly stating that French (and presumably all languages of similar stature) is no longer spoken because of their whole world society deal. And it stands to reason. In the Trek universe you could beam your way across the planet since the days of TOS. We're already drowning in cosmopolitans who think that because they're rich enough to afford regular plane rides that culture isn't a real thing. In Trek, that's everyone. And has been for 2 centuries. Even my own, tiny country used to have outspoken regional culture, complete with dialects that could basically be considered seperate languages. We have a population with a true seperate language, and they're the last stable population speaking it in the world, precisely because our deal with them enshrines it as an official language. Though, culturally, they're identical to us.

And if we assume that other societies don't share the Federation's ideals of valuing diversity, we can reason that those societies would either actively root out diversity, or simply let it be swallowed by the masses. In fact, we know that the Vulcans sperged out so much about a divergent population that they straight kicked them off the planet. And given that Romulans look slightly different, we can even assume that they were, by and large, a seperate ethnic group.

Cardassians? They probably killed dissenters and sent them to re-education camps. Ferengi? Culture does not serve profit.
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>>93771970

The doctor seemed pompous, O'Brien was the nicest guy imaginable.

I think that was a problem the show suffered from, they made the other characters just a little too pompous even if they gave reasons for them to feel pompous.
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>>93780743

Most child stars go on to live regular lives. Like the guys from Saved By The Bell that became deputies or whatever. You don't hear about them because they live relatively uneventful lives.
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>>93789204
That was such a fucking depressing episode. That copy WAS a fully-formed person, and he died completely unmourned because he was 'just' a duplicate.
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>>93789461
Star Trek HATES clones SO MUCH. Whether it's a biological copy or a time-displaced duplicate, every time one appears the crew can't wait to straight up murder it.

Ignore the Beverly shot, that was just a friendly ghost, not a clone.
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>>93787655
We're not the Borg.

Yet.
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>>93770153
didn't he spend 200 years in prison in an alternate dimension or something?
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>>93770119
TWO HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE COMBAT ENGAGEMENTS
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>>93789637
Accelerated time, yeah. I can't remember how he actually recovered from that; he certainly didn't get much support from the rest of the cast.
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>>93789618
If we became the Borg, I'd like to think we'd be cleverer in our implementation.
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>>93771373
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>>93789729
Shit, isn't that a big reason the Borg want humans? They want EVERYONE, eventually, but humans are high on the priority list.
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>>93770119
TMNT has a better timeline and I'm sure O'Brien was happy in that one
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>>93789717
I don't think he actually did
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>>93789607
Apparently clones are okay when they're noticeably different from the original, in TAS they just left giant Spock hanging out with that other giant guy
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>>93789607
Thomas Riker didn't get that treatment.
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>>93789788
And there is a second Riker running around somewhere
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>>93771281
They made him go that route so that he could be Sisko's adversary in every area.

Sisko is a commander of DS9, Dukat was commander of Tarok Nor
Sisko is a ship Captain, so is Dukat.
Sisko becomes a was leader, so does Dukat.
Sisko becomes a major diplomat, so does Dukat.
For a while, the only think Sisko was that Dukat wasn't, was a religious leader, so the last season of Deep Space Nine made Dukat a cult leader too.
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>>93789849
He did get the shit kicked out of him by Will, though.

And then he died alone in a Cardassian prison camp.
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>>93789204
>>93789461
I never understood why Star Trek always shit on 1 character over the others.

For DS9 it was O'brien, Voyager had Harry Kim, and TNG usually tortured Riker or Geordi. Not sure about TOS.
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>>93790119
Chekov
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>>93789960
That's not because of being a clone, that's for being a shitty person.
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>>93790672
It just shows how much the writers hate clones, though.
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>>93789607
Thomas Riker was fine until he became a criminal and nearly started a war.
O'Brien had an evil clone made and everyone was desperate to find out what his plan was and how to peacefully stop him.
O'Brien also has a time-displaced clone and sacrificed himself so the clone could live.
Kim had a version of himself from an alternate timeline, though the split was only a day or two. Original Kim died for the clone.
Odo solved a murder of a clone and put the killer behind bars.
Trip had a clone made to save his life, the plan didn't involve the clone dying, and when complications arose, the clone decided to end his own life on his own terms to give his life meaning. He wasn't murdered.
Spock had a giant clone of himself made in TAS and was left alive to be a diplomat.
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>>93791133
The important thing is clones fucking die if you're a character in a Star Trek series.
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>>93790119
if you're unfortunate enough to have watched ENT, it's suprising how far they took this with Trip, it's also funny because Conner Trinneer was much more capable as an actor than anyone else on that shitty show.
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>>93791212
Trip didn't get shit on nearly as much as Malcolm and Travis.
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>>93791212
Enterprise was FAR better than Voyager though. Especially season 4, that was fantastic
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>>93791227
Malcolm WANTED to be shit on, so desperately.
He just kept trying to sacrifice his life, and then Archer would kick him in the nuts and sacrifice HIS life instead. Travis did spend a lot of time in sick bay, but both of them come up against
>Trip's hometown, sister, apprentice, genderless alien friend, baby dying (bonus: Archer told Trip his friend's suicide was all his fault because he tried to tell the friend they were a human being who had worth)
>in the terribly written mirrorverse episode Trip is the solitary figure they didn't make comically evil, instead evil!Phlox attaches a car battery to his nuts for an entire day
>T'pol made him be some kind of "best man" thing at her shitty wedding for her shitty mother (who ended up dying for a random religious faction a month later anyway)
>was basically Archer's punching bag
>got heat stroke at least five times
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>>93791282
>season 4
please be joking
>space nazis
>the incredibly morally confused augments arc
>Vulcan Jesus hides in Archer's brain
>mirror-ENT -I couldn't watch the second one, it was so fucking bad. Nobody else has just made ALL the characters evil and hyper-sexual for no reason.
>random end out of nowhere showing the bastard Riker playing an ENT videogame, he pauses and kisses the female characters, doesn't even feel like a finale
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>>93783295
He was a two-faced Cardassian asshole, what evidence do you really need?
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>>93789607
>friendly
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>>93790119
For O'Brien, it was because Colm Meany was the best actor in the cast and O'Brien was the most relatable character for the audience, so his suffering had the most pathos.

Kim was a sick joke from the writers because he was so dull, meanwhile; the contrast between DS9 and Voyager is always so distinct.

Everybody got their share in TNG. Geordi did probably get a little more than most, again, largely because he was the closest thing to an everyman that TNG really had once O'Brien left, and he didn't get much in the way of 'development' episodes, being kind of front-loaded (genius engineer blind special visor dude), so all he had left for Geordi-specific episodes were suffering ones.
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>>93791841
Poor Geordi, in the future they should have more to fix being blind than a fucking giant hairclip on your face.
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>>93779280
>I remember in TNG Scotty admitted he would fudge numbers and bullshit about how hard his job was just to make himself look better when he pulled things off
>>93781561
>relayed as part of a conversation between scotty and laforge, basically told laforge to always overestimate how long something took because not only would be he told to do it faster by commanders but also so hed look better

Also good work advice for engineers in the real world desu.
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>>93792040
I recall one of the first struggles between Torres and Janeway was because B'lona wasn't playing this game, and Janeway was.

"Fixing this shit will take 12 hours."

"See if you can do it in 9 hours."

"When I said it'll take 12 hours, I mean it'll take 12 hours."
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>>93792072
>"When I said it'll take 12 hours, I mean it'll take 12 hours."
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>>93792072
Janeway being BTFO by Torres was always great. one of the only things I liked about her character
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