/hyw/ - How's Your Webcomic? #384

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>>93763842
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
calligraphr.com

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on:
https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

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Posting recent storyboards.
Boy, I sure wish I could draw haha...

>>93763842
>"Your webcomic is shit"

HYW Bones edition?

>>93763842
>>"Your webcomic is shit"

HYW Lucy edition?

>>93763988
Try using index cards

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>Be me
>Can't write for shit
>Get a writer to help me
>We fuck up hard
>End up writing a porn comic instead
>Porn comic actually comes out decently
>MFW

>>93764166
Don't be like that Lucy! Share!

where have all the good comics gone?

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Uh, gonna repost. was at the end of the last thread
You know I'm surprised puns on 'riposte' don't come up more often in posting in general.

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>>93764186
Why do you want an unfinished pile of sketches?

>>93764263
They're still in development AkA mine (jk it's a pile of shit)

How do i star making my own webcomic?What software/tool should i use?

>>93764828
You can go the classic route by doing it all on paper with pencils/ink/whatever and just scan it, or you could go the digital route and use either Paint Tool Sai/Clip Paint Studio/Good Old Paint/Anything that let's you draw really.

>>93764263
>post my decent quality garbage
>not a single reply
>wonder what i did wrong and scrap the idea
onward to sexy teenaged magical girls with plenty of fan service!

>>93764972
>post garbage
>no reply
what'd you expect?

>>93765012
next time i'll make sure to bring a polished turd

>>93764856
Is there any specific resolution for a webcomic?

>>93765148
72 dpi for web is fine, but if you want to send them to print eventually you must work on 300 or 600 dpi

>>93765163
How do i upload my webcomic then?

>>93765163
can't you just increase the DPI after the fact in case you need it for print?

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>>93765367
Technically yes you can and it shouldn't be an issue as long as you remember to keep the same size for the file. The thing is that is kinda better to work first on higher resolutions because if you instead do the 72->300 increase you may get some damage on the overall quality. But it depends on how you work around it, since some styles and formats don't get the same amount of troubles other stuff do. Pic related is a subtle example, and is subtle because what you see on the screen may not be the same to what you see on print neither. But that is going into another area.

>>93765264
You mean as in which sites? You can check the stuff on the goodie bag here >>93763869 to solve any questions about hosting and what not. The rest is just knowing how to use webpages.

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>>93765458
>>93765367

Just to add to the dpi matter, it's not really recommended to just increase a 72 dpi image to 300 dpi because the problem comes with the pixels. The dpi stands for "dots per inch", and a 72 dpi file has, well, 72 dots of color per inch. If you increase the image into 300 dpi, the file fills the missing 228 dots with the most similar colors it already has, which is why sometimes the image looks like it even got a different tone and in the worst case it would look like a really shitty resolution image.

Instead if you work first on a 300 dpi and then reduce it to 72 dpi, you may lose some dots of color but the overall damage may not be as noticeable. In these cases losing is not as damaging as adding.

>>93765458
>>93765546
>>93765367

Just as a final thought, resolution only really matters when you are going to print. If you think you will print your comic at some point, what I would say is best is to work on 300 dpi from the start and have the original file saved, then for the web posting just resize the image into a comfortable pixel size so you don't end with a 5000x8000 pixel page or something. That way you don't have to do so much work on it, and when you decide to go to print you will already have the files on the Letter/A4/your chosen print size format ready.

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>check on the schizoveggia comic an anon posted threads ago to see if he updated.
>"This webtoon has been deleted or is currently unavailable."

I-is the cabbage alright?

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>>93763842
I'd like to make a webcomic but my motivation comes and goes, as in I'm unhappy sometimes so that puts me in a bad enough mood for me to not wanna do anything.

Anyway, for now I'm focusing on writing the script. I'm almost done with the brainstorming/rough event outline phase, the shit that's gonna happen. I often digress though and add more stuff, like dialogues. The next part will consist of polishing all that shit up into an actual script. Pic is the reference of the format I'll be using. I already experimented with it for a short story and found that script writing really isn't that hard, but I digress. When (if) I'll finish it, I'll let it rest for a month then come back to it and see if it's not cringeworthy. If my brain gives me the green light I'll proceed to actually drawing. One can dream

>>93764263
Dead

>>93765884
Good luck anon! It's nice to see people actually looking up how to script. And I know it's hard to work when in a depressed mood, but it's not good to let it control your (in)actions neither. Maybe instead of letting it take you down ise your mood to work on parts of the story that fit said mood? When you feel better you can revise it and maybe change stuff, but it would still be progress at least. That's usually what I do when feeling down.

Out of curiosity, what would be your story about?

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slow but steady.

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Finished a full body picture of CIN that will be used for his bio page. I'll be doing these for all of my major characters. Really conflicted on what information to actually put in each bio though.

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how come no one from here ever makes it? is there some kind of hyw curse?

>>93766059
That's just content creation in general. I know of many webcomic unrelated to these threads that are failures. Just like how there's thousands of failed animators, movie makers,let's players, and game devs. A vast majority of media made never "makes it".

>>93765924
Thanks for the advice man, I appreciate it. As for the story, well I'm very secretive about it. All I can tell you is that it's inspired by Nazi Germany with the protagonist being part of a similar fictional country. I asked myself what it must be like to operate as a soldier in such a place, and worked on the story from there. The protagonist is a fanatic at first but then slowly realizes how his nation's goals aren't being accomplished and that he's just running around in circles. He won't turn against his motherland but he won't work for it anymore either: he'll wander off into the world seeking a new purpose to give to his now meaningless life, maybe serve a new master

>>93766059
People from here make it. They just stop posting here when they do for the most part. A few people who make it say stuff from time to time but they're either ignored or get fed up with the perceived toxic negativity of /co/ in general.

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>>93765884
Is there any free (or easily torrented) software that can format scripts like that?

Atm I'm immitating this style in your pic by painstakingly adjusting paragraphs in word (and sometimes open office) and I feel real fucking stupid...

>>93766329
>toxic negativity
>/co/ is in fact one of the most civil and on topic boards except maybe the origami or animal board or something

Maybe I spend too much time on /a/ and /tv/ and my perception of conversations is warped.
I can't imagine what "discussions" on reddit and tumblr and so on must look like though if they consider /co/ standards to be intolerable...

>>93766488
it's not. he's a fucking quivering manbaby, this board is a padded playpen

>>93764312
New girl is cute

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>I know I can do it, anon said, helping himself to another sheet of paper from the dwindling stack. I'm sure that in time these scribbles will be a mystery, even to me.

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>>93763842

dropping this wip im working on here, GGZ episode 2 page 1 (technically page 41)

hope yall like it! it just needs some word balloons and a little more background detail and its done!

>>93766699
Why is one of the characters all blurry? Did you copy paste her in with a early 2000s version of photoshop?

Also, I realize this page is virtually done, but there's a lot of negative space in the second panel. Try using a different angle next time, imagine there being a camera behind the back of the character to the right edge of the page...

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>>93766728


i stretched her out because i had to stick my old hardrive in my current laptop and the screen resolution stretches the image out so when i look at it on any other computer besides mine everything ive been drawing the past 3 or 4 days looks stretched in and super thin, so ive been drawing wider on purpose because my laptop resolution is all weird and fucked up and i know this page is not going to look right on normal computers and tablets. :/

im using a 2009 windows vista hardrive with a native resolution of 1152x864 on a windows 7 asus laptop with ultra high radeon hd 5870x resolution with extra higher resolution for plugging into widescreen tv's

>>93766769
I can relate to your strugle with webcomic related technology.

I bought a wacom bamboo last year but I haven't used it to this day because the codes for free software that came with it were expired and I couldn't be assed to search for appropriate software for a wacom and buying / pirating it...

>>93767106
Pretty much any modern art package will be compatible with Wacom's drivers seeing as they've been around for ages and are basically the industry standard tablet.

Do you know what open source and free to download art packages are available? That's something you can do, Homer: find out.

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>>93766699

its done unless it looks really messed up when im able to get on a real computer and see what it really looks like, i have no idea if its to stretched out or to stretched out yet until later on today.

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>>93767262

to stretched out or to stretched inward*

how would you say it? squeezed in? shrinked in doesn't sound right because its a left to right thing not a size thing...

>>93767106
>>93767157

huh? what are yall talking about? im talking about laptop screen sizes not being right and stretched out wrong. theres nothing wrong with my tablet or drawing programs.

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>>93767262
god dammit.

deleted the highlight layer and had to redo it, doesn't look right without it

>>93766051
loving some of that subtle texture. really helps make it less flat.
Obviously his bio needs to talk about who he wants to kill, why, how he plans to do it...

>>93766488
>>93766511
he did say 'perceived'

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>>93766446
Not that I know of, no. And don't feel stupid: I'm doing the same man, using the buttons in pic according to necessity. It's a bit of a pain but if done right you get a clean, easily readable script
A few more things I wanna add on my post...
>>93765884

I suggest not to bother with different fonts (i.e. bold, italic, underscored text) and only use all caps tops when needed.
I also wouldn't bother numbering panels and pages for now so that you can add and remove panels without having to modify the number of all those panels that may come after. I suggest doing it only when you're done with writing the script and even then it's pretty redundant imho. It's up to you anon

>>93763842
Act Of God is dead...

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>>93765884
>>93767106
>>93767665

So I just downloaded Page 2 Stage and it works fine... I guess.
It feels very antiquated though, the tab bar looks like something straight out of windows 95.

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>>93767808
Also, with so many writers / idea guys hanging around hyw (usually in search of an artist to collaborate with) I'm a bit surprised that we almost never see any scripts posted...

>>93767808
*sarcastically

I've allready fucked up.
how embarassing.

>>93764166
Nothing you do comes out decently

>>93767831
It's because more often than not idea guys may not really have any idea written down.

Also I may be talking bullshit on this second department, but I guess many feel that is easier to donut steel some script than a sketch of a page? Dunno I'm just trying to think of reasons why we don't see scripts often.

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Well the other day I finished this, I was practicing backgrounds and landscapes

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>>93767808
It does look antiquated (who knows, it might *actually* be Win 95's version of Word), but it gets the job done.

But really, all you need at the end of the day is finding a script format you find yourself at home working with. If this one ain't cutting it for you you might be able to find more comic script formats on Google images

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>>93767831
What's hyw?

>>93767884
No bullshit, you're right. I personally would never share any ideas because I'm extremely jealous of them

>>93767949
Looks nice.
I'm not sure if you're doing it intentionally, but low contrast, flat backgrounds go really well with your character design. Just remember to have a lot of variety in coloring and it will turn out great!

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I'm reading Cracked at work and sometimes history is just too perfect. Apparently the British tested experimental weapons on a public beach in a town called Westward Ho!

Any call for a historical comedy about that? I'm not sure if I have the drive to do all that research and practice my drawing and maintain any sort of schedule, but how non-historically accurate could I get before it turns into an alternate history instead of just a comedy?

>>93767359
You need to place the speech bubbles in the second half of the page differently - readers need to be able to figure out the reading order intuitively, not puzzling it together after the fact...

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I'm done with the first 4 pages of my first comic with the tips you guys gave me, if you have any more tips?
Btw thanks for helping!

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>>93769683
Here's page 2

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>>93769724

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>>93769750
There's no real story but I'm just trying out the tips for the panel composition.

>>93766329
It's not really toxicity that drives the good ones away. It can be shitty here, but for the most part as soon as someone good "makes it" They don't need to shill to 40 some odd retards that already know their comic exists.

Or they just stop doing their comic because the pressure is too much for them/ the creativity is gone. Most of the good /hyw/ comics I can think of died, or knowing the creators, they know you read their comic and don't give a shit to come back.

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>>93767881
That's exactly what I just said

>>93767831
most people post their scripts as pastebins

>>93769308
That sounds like a pretty fun comic. I think you can mess with the real story as long as anything new you invent never actually got used or worked well enough that it would have changed things. that way you can just call that speculation about more failed stuff

>>93769772
Chuckling pretty hard. She's a cutie. I could see this getting its own cartoon

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>>93763988
>>93766668
>>93767831
This is coming together nicely.
I'll need some time adjusting to this script program but having a well organized script really balances out the messiness of the layouts, very helpful.
Now I just need to learn perspective, anatomy and shading and I'm ready ro go!

>>93770905
Isn't there also this discord thing?
I checked some archived threads from about a year ago but the links don't work anymore.
Gib current link plz, if you have it.

>>93769724
>do you want to buy a fidget spinner?

okay, I laughed.

>>93769308
I'm down to try it out, is okay if I do it?

>>93769772
You're a very fast learner, good for you.
You're allready experimenting with slightly unconventional elements like the thought bubble panel - and the small average panel count is complementing your style nicely.

If you enjoy writing and drawing this comic, you should work up a sizeable back-log and publish it on a popular webcomic site. I think the premise would work very well with short, self-contained stories over a few pages on a weekly or bi-weekly schedule.

Also, don't take this the wrong way because it's usually an insult on 4chan - but I think your webcomic would be very popular with the tumblr crowd, it hits all the right beats without being obnoxious (most tumblr-core comics are, hence the bad reputation).

I've talked a lot allready so I'll leave it at that for now, but it's always nice to see new faces on hyw. I hope you don't disappear in a few weeks like most others.

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>>93769308
I have not heard of this but history is really full of funny shit that sounds right out of a surreal comedy, shows that really any idea we may have had it was already done. Australia's war against Emus is just another example. The emus won.

>>93771828
Knock yourself out; you can't copyright an idea. The execution is what matters: give different 5 people the concept of "Dad's Army meets W. Heath Robinson" and you'll get 5 different strips.

>>93772070
god dammit send ME those emus. theyre fucking delicious and I can't find them in any store

I wonder:
does anybody remember the anon who used to post his layouts for a comic involving antro animals , battles and excellent art.
He mentioned being accepted into hiveworks but turning down the offer due to schedule issues. He was one of the most talented people I#ve ever seen on hyw but he disappeared a few weeks back.
I can't remember the name of the comic and I didn't save any of his drawings so I can't reverse image search. Any hints are appreciated...

>>93772102
Chochi's "Beatriz Overseer"?

>>93769683
>>93769724
>>93769750
>>93769772

Oh dear I really love your style, it has so many details yet looks so charming. Also you have some really nice work with panels and the layout (that dream panel is wonderful). Tell me when you publish it so I can bookmark it and follow you.

Also for no story, many comics begin as just self-contained "this happened and it's funny" kind of stories, and later it either keeps being that way or you get inspired to add more story and lore and what not. Eitherway it's good as of now.

>>93769724

>do you want to buy a fidget spinner?

Why this makes me laugh so much? Is because it's a skeleton named Hiddlehand trying to sell it? Is because I didn't expect it? WHY A FIDGET SPINNER JOKE MAKES ME LAUGH?!

>>93772132
nah, the character designs were more cartoony and the style much more dynamic.
This is a good webcomic too, though.

>>93772102
You may have to dive on archives searching for hyw threads anon, sorry. And we lost track of some so good luck on your search.

>Turning down a hiveworks offer because of schedule issues

This is sad. I have heard Hiverworks is a bit demanding on update schedules, makes me wonder if it's a good idea to one day try to apply or not.

>>93767949
I really like this

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>yfw your favorite furry porn comic creator turns out to be a former HYW regular under a different name and you never recognized it

>>93773572
Does anyone know how the 'reward system' on hiveworks looks like? Do you get a monthly salary, a cut of the ad money or a stacked payment based on how many pages you put out?

I'm just wondering because all other webcomic sites I'm aware of have just (tiny) ad cuts and since hiveworks is a lot more selective with content what their policy looks like.

They mention it nowhere on the site...

>>93774453
>furry porn comic creator turns out to be a former HYW regular

as expected of the master, hyw

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i'm contemplating buying tickets for comicon which starts soon in my country.

I've been once and for hyw purposes I've tried to sum up the experience in one image.
Pic related. Maybe I shouldn't go this year...

>>93767949
I like this, I hope you will stick around or leave us a blog or something.

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>>93773932
>>93775544

Haha thanks,
Yes of course! I'm not very frequent on this thread, but sometimes I go in to see new things and post what I'm doing

>my Tumblr https://cauldrawn.tumblr.com/

>>93769164
Sorry I had not seen your comment, yes, I did it intentionally!
Yes I still have a lot to learn about backgrounds and landscapes. (And anatomy)

>>93764828
for web comics, I personally think clip studio paint or fire alpaca are good choices.

as much as I like to draw in sai, it lacks useful tools for making comics.

>>93774453
Sasuga /co/

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I posted this comic because I decided Sunday will be the arbitrary deadline for my comic, and come hell or high water I will stop working on this and post it on Sunday.

>>93774453
Who that?

>>93777279
Damn, this looks really good.

>>93772026
Thanks for the constructive compliments! I guess I'll continue!

>>93777842
I think he went by the name Nunc. Used to draw Res Nullius. That one sci fi comic about the alien lizard girl and the guy fleeing a war.

Been working a furry porn comic called "Study Partners" for like a year now. It's really good.

>>93772026
Thanks for the constructive compliments! I guess I'll continue!

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Did the idea to make a Golden Girl comic die?

<Pic related

>>93778552
Roger dodger, I've given both comics a very brief look. What do you like about them? They both seem pretty average to me personally, and I'm genuinely curious

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https://bug-quest-2.tumblr.com/post/162833248973

New panel out

it's nice to get to draw an actual character now

>>93779670
Those are some really nice light effects

>>93779779
<3

It's really a very simple process with SAI. The luminosity filter is incredible.

>>93779240
It seems like it would be complicated to do, to make a comic based off a group-created character. I could see why it would be hard to end up with anything.

What information would canon or not? What if there's conflicting information? How would the person making the comic be able to do anything but follow the pre-existing story? Otherwise you could have the comic and the canon information conflict.

Would it be adult or not? Most of the GG artwork seems to be adult. While to me, an adult version seems less interesting, it's rare to even see new non-adult artwork- let alone a whole comic.

With it, whoever was making the comic would almost have to go out on their own and make their own choices because there would be a conflict eventually. Theoretically you could see more than one comics about her by different authors that would be incompatible. (then maybe some kind of multiverse crossover where they met or something).

>>93775470
LOL this is funny. Got more?

>>93777279
Nice color and perspective

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Based on the feedback on the last thread, I thought I'd post the next page in-progress to see if there were any thoughts.

The last few chapters, I've been sticking to 12-page arcs. We're past the half-way point, this is the 7th of 12 pages.

Superhero Annie here found out her father had powers when he was her age, but he won't give her any information about it. She received an offer from a famous but kind of questionable person to get that information, but she has to steal something that's related to another issue going on.

She is an engineer, building robots and robotic replacement limbs. Here she's taking a bunch of training drones that were broken and going to be destroyed to make her own. Her explanation is that it's to help being a superhero after they previously suffered a sneak attack, but she's really building something to help her find what she needs to steal among her father's stuff.

The dialog isn't completely worked out, so I just used red lines to mark the possible balloon placement.

Panel 1: I've thought about erasing her and having her leaning to the right and also lifting with both hands too, but maybe I'm just overthinking.

Panel 2: I should probably move her over to the right so what she is holding isn't cut off.

Panel 3: The drone she's building.

Panel 4: The same drone is in front of her, but it might be more covered. I wonder if it seems strange there's no dialog in this panel.

Panel 5: I haven't worked out yet the layout here, but her line is something like "It's light enough to hold over my head! ...Just barely!" It'll probably end up more of a whole room shot.

>>93769724
Awesome style

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>>93780764
I've been wanting to risk myself and make her canon in a comic I'm creating to settle her down but since I'm not the creator and neither the original creator aknowledges her existence I'm still in doubt with what to do. I think that her character has more potential than being just forced cheesecake from the 50's era. But she was created to serve that purpose in the first place.

Dunno, but /aco/ is doing a good job drawing porn of her.

>>93773572
>want to be with hiveworks.

This is sad.

>>93781582
Explain

>>93775470
you would think the air conditioning at places like that would be better given that unavoidable fact.
i guess they dont want the booth babes to get cold

>>93778552
Nunc did Study Partners? wow, how'd I not notice?
it is sort of "good" but it's kind of... I'm really surprised it's him. though I barely remember it

>>93781646
Hiveworks can be exchanged for goods and services

>>93781453
There's no reason to say you can't make your own. At some point it likely there will have been several comic attempts, each different by different authors. It's just that there might be complaints whenever you would not follow the previous canon.

It would be fun to try to create a comic from an existing character, but kind of having freedom to do what you wanted in a way.

I think I'd probably have her story cut into three sections, as a sidekick in the golden age, on her own in the silver age, and as Golden Guardian in the modern age.

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So let's say I have a bunch of designs of characters I like, thought their personalities and all, but they don't seem to fit any coherent story that can handle them all, yet I want to use them on something.

Is going with just oneshot stories the right path for this?

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first cover of my new comic guys!!! I'm so excited!!! hopefully I'll get to hiveworks next year! that is my goal!! the basic presmise its about an old man who is a superhero and his battles withhis archenemy bomb bobo, any criticisms accepted and tips thanks!!!

>>93783761
>the basic presmise its about an old man who is a superhero

kek, that already sounds like fun

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sketch of a fight

>>93783722
you have a plethora of characters but a paucity of stories. Figure out how many stories you can write, then decide which characters to use. just because you have them to use doesn't mean you should twist the story around them

>>93781646
Why would you want to give up any of your rights to a stranger? There's nothing they can give you can't get without their rules.

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>>93783633
I just got the best ideaaaaaaa!!!!

>>93783794
Wait is the bomb bobo a headless man? How does he work?

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>>93784104
Probably like this mummy.

>>93784320
Yaeh like the mummy I'm thinking he could have infinite heads popping up every time the last explodes

>>93783794
what's the old man's powers?

youthful strength?

the ability to snooze through time?

tactical dentures?

>>93784397
His power is super strenght at the cost of ageing faster so after a month of being super hero he goes from 15 to 65 so he now only uses his strenght at critical times

>>93784397
Also he dies but we all know it

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>>93784427
>His power is super strenght at the cost of ageing faster so after a month of being super hero he goes from 15 to 65

That is amazing

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>>93784427

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I needed more drawings of waifus for my comic so I drew some.

>>93784706
dont be afraid to let the upper eyelid pull up all the way. It's neat to have some stern-eyed girls, but the cutie pie with the bows looks like she should have brighter, open-er eyes

Hey, who wants to do a West Tree guest comic?

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must keep pushing!

>>93785083
Can I make fanart?

>>93785946
cute robot

>>93785967
That's cool too.

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>>93786014

>>93786470
quick, someone compliment the blind girl's sniz!

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I haven't posted here in a while, have an outfit design

>>93786587
woo, great to see you. She's lookign more convincingly old and female every time you draw her. Reminds me of some stepmoms I had.
hey accept my friend request on discord. it doesn't let me talk to you until you do

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>Use trial version of Clip Paint Studio
>So far it is really nice and fuck if I missed having stabilization on my pen
>All my money left me so I can't afford it for now, besides I want the EX version and that is more expensive even on discount days.

That and I made a horrible mistake of thinking the canvas was like the Photoshop one so I ended up doing a trial drawing for ants even at 100%.

Guess I will have to stay with PS and their not-stabilized brushes for the moment until I get some extra money.

>>93787124
Pirate?
I mean you could always buy it later.

>>93787124
>Not using Fire Alpaca

>>93786470
>>93785946
first i'm going to waifu you, next i'm going to make you my fan

>>93787181
For some reason what I have tried to pirate lately doesn't work, idk if it's because Sierra became shittier than my previous OS, but nothing seems to stick.

>>93787189
I actually have Fire Alpaca but I don't really feel comfortable with it for final drawings. It is really comfy for sketching though.

>>93786470
Oh no it's way too cute!

>>93784427
I wonder if the villain he fights and dies over would have the opposite power? Maybe he gets younger?

He's really old and uses that to his advantage to attempt to live forever. The thing is that the old man has to outlast him. They fight, and the old man has to outlive the man who gets younger. He has to make him young enough to then not exist, otherwise the he'll just be able to age back into adult eventually.

>>93783761
This looks fantastic, can't wait to see more.
I love rough, sketchy art styles like that, reminds me of ping pong.
One minor thing: the title font looks kinda bland, it could work for normal dialogue but for the title it should be something more spectacular...

>>93785033
shut up coldfusion, stop trying to make everything conform to your taste

>doing a poké-porn comic for fun
>only going to share it with a friend and not post it publicly

Feels a bit weird putting all that effort in on stuff people will never see.

>>93787124
You won't need to get CSP EX unless you're serious about making multi-page comics, or long animations. The regular PRO edition will be fine for most people.
Start putting money aside now for the next time a sale comes round (Smith Micro usually have one around Thanksgiving).

>>93787680
oh man, oldmanguy vs vulture

>>93788264
I hope you realize making gay little stealth
>tee hee I'm making something you guys will never ever see!
posts like that and trying to play them off as "oh just a random thought!" makes you look like a huge tool. Keep it to yourself or it just makes you look like an attention whore.

>>93789861
just FYI, I think your response makes you look like a tool, whereas that guy just looks like an innocent dork. It is never okay to tell another person not to express themselves

>>93790014
Shut the fuck, up your opinion is shit.

See? I just did it.

>>93787680
>>93787702
>>93784472
>>93784547
Thanks a lot guys will take those in consideration the font and the villain one!

>>93789861
>>93790014
I'm pretty much pencilling the whole thing just so I can label it as done and never have to think about it again. If I don't get closure on a concept I developed, I keep coming back to it and this is definitely something I'm not comfortable publishing.

>>93791641
we all get commissions like that but if it's something you actually enjoy, you ought to remember that you can't be the only one like you

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Bumping with some more storyboards...

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>>93791641
Stop teasing, post the goddamn porn allready you filthy degenerate!
Do it on xxxhyw over at /aco/ if you must.

>>93793528

>you will never get commissioned to do something you are not comfortable with but damn the money game too good

Feels mixed man

>>93791641
You can always take another name and publish it without making it really related to your more vanilla artist name

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>Do a pretty detailed background

>MFW some details will get lost when I resize the pic.

QUICK!!!!


Tell me about your setting's antagonist?

Did they have a hard life?

>>93794665
>From a wealthy family
>Has never had to work a day in his life
>Only reason he goes bad is because he wants to forge his own legacy

Not really.

>>93794665

>Did they have a hard life?
No, the fucker was rich as fuck and the hardest shit he got was a crazy jealous teammate killing his waifu and his grandson killing his by then current body on the backstory.

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>>93794665
>Ignored by his parents and siblings.
>Raised by his grandparents.
>Had to run away for problems with his "family".
>Now has to work with an asshole (protagonist).

>>93794665
>Parents killed by the Gods
>Gods tried to kill him as well when he was baby but fucked up
>His adoptive brother tries to have him killed because he's afraid he'd take his inheritance
>The girl he falls in love with is actually an angel sent by the Gods to kill him
>Becomes a figurehead for the main antagonistic faction despite him not wanting to be it.
>Is told by one of the Gods that when he eventually dies his soul will be put into an eternal limbo made specifically for him


Yeah, he had a pretty hard life.

>>93794665
never really thought about it. I don't think so. his mom is a whore

>>93763842
Reminder that flickr has a search function to find pics royalty/copyright free so u can reference, collage, trace, etc u want

>>93794867
Jesus fuck. Why do the Gods want him dead that badly?

>>93795025
more to the point, how did they fail

>>93794867
And seems he is up for a pretty hard death too.

>Gods REEEEEEEEing this much over a guy
What the fuck was their problem?

>>93794665

He's very alike to the MC - his curiosity set him out on a quest for knowledge but he loses his humanity in the process. He embodies everything that MC (in the world this takes place) will become if she continues on the path she's set on.
I'm contemplating that in the end, after havin gone through many experiences, the MC will join sides with the antagonist and that's how I finish the story.

>>93795025
>>93795089
So the Gods can see future events before they happen but don't know specific details such as the people involved and location until the people involved are actually born. In this case the Main Antagonist is supposed to grow up and become some warlord who throws off the status quo of the continent. however, they mess up due to plot reasons and his destiny changes due to the God's meddling to becoming someone who goes full Napoleon on the entire world.
>>93795084
Plot reasons. But if you don't care about spoilers...... The setting's version of Lucifer saves him because he wants to fuck over the Gods

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>>93794665
I don't really have an antagonist because my setting is mostly just concepts doing jobs and nobody takes it personal. I guess you can think Death is a natural antagonist because "death cliché" and he likes to tease and cause trouble to the main character, which in any case:

>Be actually the second half of a pair of "creation-destruction" entities
>Your job is basically bringing death, at some point you also have to "kill" the universe itself once all lifeforms go extinct and stars can't bring any more light
>It is all so everything starts again in an endless cycle
>Watch every other guy you have had to work with and made bonds of friendship die along with any lifeform in all universal cycles, because you and your brother are the only ones who can't die with every reset
>Keep a cheerful nature and a mindset of finding pleasure in even the smallest and pettiest things just to avoid being depressed forever
>Just enjoy your job
>Then at some point fall in love with a coworker -who is said main character- of the present cycle but still try to deny it because you know how it will end

I sometimes wonder if I'm a closet sadist.

>dead thread
>shit comics
are you autists ever going to get your shit together?

>>93795480
Dreaming is free

>>93795480
Are you?

>>93795386
What are the odds that the guy would actually have been a peaceful ordinary salaryman if the Gods didn't try to go full Greek Tragedy?

>>93795522
one of the ultimate irony's is that when he falls in love with one of the secret angels sent to kill him and she falls in love with him as well that would have stopped it all but they kept meddling and that's when shit took a turn for the worse.

>>93795480
If we don't try we already failed!!!

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>>93795584
Fuck I'm a fag for love redeeming villains but I'm a bigger fag for when the redemption doesn't complete and may actually give the villain a bigger evil motivation. Fuck the Gods I would totally support this motherfucker.

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>>93763842
>Have a great idea for a webcomic
>Can't write or draw

>>93795672
then how do you know it's a great idea?

>>93795672
Get a writer and an artist so you are only credites as the "idea guy" I mean "creator"

Bleedman is not a good example because he is the artist, but all his webcomics although born from a concept he thought, are all written by different people so technically is a similar case.

>>93795584
>>93795386
Man, the gods don't seem very intelligent

>>93795720
Just like in my classic ancient mythologies

>>93795683
The concept is very cool (in my oppinion) and has a lot of room for a great story, I just can't write the story or draw it.

>>93795733
post the concept, you might get a collab going.

>>93795720
Yeah, they really aren't There's a reason for it though but I really don't want to give that bit away.
>>93795657
That's kinda the point. The love interest is the MC and eventually calls them out on their bullshit and they only start realizing maybe they shouldn't meddle any more is after Half of them are killed

>>93795733
What is it man.

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>>93795784
Is this webcomic already in the making or is still on the concept stage? Because I want to follow.

>>93795848
I just got an artist so stuff will be churned out sooner rather than later.

It's also the same concept for a novel I'm writing so it comes down to which one comes out first.

>>93795894
Good luck with that anon, and tell use when you get any of the options done. I really want to check that out.

>>93795943
>use

Sorry I meant "us", damn the typos are strong with me today

>>93795943
will do.

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>Some parts of the lore of my webcomic are gonna happen in a porn comic which will make the sex scenes canon

>>93796018
I mean, is not so hard. Just show it happens offscreen on the main sfw webcomic and then promote your porn.

I fucking suck at writing and I heard it's a really good exercise to do short stories. But how do you come up with a small scale plot for a 1-2 page short story webcomic without making it a gag comic? It's like my brain is primed by Hollywood, anime / cartoons and novels to only think in big story arcs with grand driving motivations for the main character that can't get resolved quickly.

>>93796175
Read other similar comics or short stories. You can even think of how legends work, they aren't overly long but just some "so there was this guy, he encounters some spooky thing, does some stupid thing he shouldn't have and dies". Anthologies are another good source for that, many latinamerican writers used to write just short stories on the last century so you can read their stuff too (Borges and contemporaries, for example).

>>93796175
>But how do you come up with a small scale plot for a 1-2 page short story webcomic without making it a gag comic?
Go the Asimov route. Make a series of short stories that are part of the same universe/overall pot but might not really have anything to do with each other.

For example

>Character A does something
>200 miles away character b does something else
>At some point the events of character B might be referenced to character A despite not actually having any real impact

>>93796502
>"Oh yeah, you killed Mister Mostly Mittens"

>>93796710
Exactly

>>93794665
I mean, kinda?

He's technically a construct that didn't exist until 5 years prior to the story and the only hard thing about his life is when he finds out he is artificial and made no decision for himself.

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anyone thought of doing something like this if their not good at drawing? at least with their hands.

>>93798020
Honestly, as long as hands are consistent it's fine.

>>93798041
hands, the one thing you want to be consistent is the hardest thing to draw.

I do know how to use illustrator, I could create a character and rearrange/redraw the shapes as needed. The trouble is that I don't have a story idea.

>>93798041
>>93798137
am I the only person that knows what the word 'with' means?

>>93798215
oh.

Honestly, I thought he meant drawing characters with very little detail and specifically mean hands.

>>93798020
As much as I like doing vector art, I find it a bit too time consuming if you are doing normal drawings and not spite-esque strips. I probably would use it for lineart though since my pulse is shit.

>>93798439
With normal drawings I mean doing more classic takes on the comic strips with many different poses and perspectives and what not for the characters, instead of going just with something easier like a sprite comic or similar.

>>93798439
okay am i the only one who thought that anon was asking 'is it okay to make characters out of simple geometric shapes' ?

>>93798593
it was me

I'm not great at drawing, especially with pencils and tablets. So I thought how would it go down if I used vector shapes and a geometric art style. It might even help it stand out.

>>93798593
The question is a bit vague on itself tbqh.

Besides vector art kind of qualifies in the "geometric shapes" area because as I said before, it is easier to make something similar to a sprite while also easier to manipulate (you want to make his arm point to a diferent direction? Just move the rectangle a bit, and so on).

As for simple geometric shapes, it's perfectly fine. In fact, many character designs are actually thought with a dominant geometric shape in mind.

>>93798682
glad I got it right

>>93798682
Is not really unheard of, but it's not so used neither because everyone wants to try a more anime or cartoon style.

Sure go for it, if it's what works for you then it's fine. As long as your are happy with your results.

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WHAT I LEARNED IN HYW THREADS IS

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>>93778224
>>93780967
Thanks! I really aught to set a deadline for myself, so that's what I am going to try to do.

I /really/ should be more vigilant about writing everyday..

>>93800337
I think you mean diligent, dawg.

>>93800429
If im not smart enough to write everyday Im not smart enough not to mix the two words up

>>93800505
Damn bro, maybe you should start reading more?

>>93799930
Lots of weak people roam these threads. I'm over it though.

>>93800810

I've noticed that too, but for clarity I'm curious if we're talking about the same thing.

How would you define weak people in these threads, examples?

For me it's all the low self esteem and people who only talk about making work but are too afraid to actually MAKE it.

>>93801096
sensitive faggots and literal children, these threads are a joke. the average quality of work is what you'd find on an elementary school wall

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>>93801390
Say that to my face.

>>93799930
Never go full Scribblehatch.

>>93801450
xDD

>>93801096
basically this, for a thread dedicated to comics having only 67 images in 230 replies it's kind of weird, most people here PLAN stories and charecters but most of them never make it

>>93801826
majority of posters are just uncreative idea guys who prefer talking about their contrived rehashed shit than actually making it, because if they actually did they'd realize how shitty their idea actually is.

>>93801096

What >>93802107 said

This thread has become an Idea Guy thread

People either just drop their ideas that they're "totally working on you guys!!!" and leave to never return to the threads or just come here daily and sound off a bunch of cliched idea prompts and never do anything with them no matter how much people suck their dick for it

>>93801450
That's actually funny and cute. Looks like the aspect ratio got warped.

>>93801826
>expecting it to actually be mostly images
christ, guy. I think an over 25% image rate is astounding

thinking of starting a comic, it'll be about a group of teens with powers and how they handle it on a day to day basis, but with more gritty realism. what do you think?

>>93802357
this is such a cliche that it's hard to imagine this being a real post, but truth be told it hasn't actually been done that many times. Not with actual realism, just grit-for-grit's-sake

>>93801826
not posting anything that can link me to 4chan in the future, but im fine with general talk

>>93802290
yeah maybe I went a little bit overboard but my point still stands
>>93802107
this only proves that no matter how much they hate dewd and coldfusion they are the only ones keeping these threads from being actually uninteresting, they at least have a portfolio of work

>>93802829
why would posting in 4chan ever mean anything with your work

>>93802908
thats a attitude I have for forums in general

Id rather have me as an author separate from forums and shit, only represented through the story, story notes and possible social media account

>>93803063
That's great and all, but it's going to limit what you can get out of these threads. Still, makes sense. In the meantime you're hoping to just learn from others' example

So. You know how everyone's got that cheesyass story in their head you kind of zone out and daydream about whenever you're bored/procrastinating/depressed/whatever? I've dug myself into a deep fucking hole. I based my characters and my story off of that, and so far I've only really just shared art of my characters and a couple of no context pages. People want more, though. I'll be found out and called out as a self inserting hack if I do that, though. What do? I didn't expect ANY feedback on this stuff, let alone positive feedback.

>>93803319
why would anyone know or care that your characters are based on your daydreams?
If you think there's something wrong with it, fix it until it's right. If you just think people THINK it's wrong, but it isn't, then fuck those people.

>>93802885
>they are the only ones keeping these threads from being actually uninteresting
lmfao retards like them are why anyone good eventually leave the thread. when you scroll through the thread and all you see are these unoriginal scribbles, it's hard to take any discussion or advice seriously knowing they come from idiots with grade school tier drawings and even more juvenile ideas and dialogue to match.

who the fuck would want to internalize any idea from people who have been doing comics for years and are still at the very bottom of the barrel? who would want to associate with these mouth breathers? other idiots who don't know any better or don't really care about comics, hence these fisher price threads

>>93803475
I don't want to be known as the shameless self-insert webcomic artist down the line. It's not obvious right now because my face isn't attached to my art, but if you put two and two together, it's so fucking obvious and I'm so embarrassed about it. I was just having fun. I didn't think anyone was paying attention, you know?

>If you just think people THINK it's wrong, but it isn't, then fuck those people.
Should I keep writing my shameless self insert story then? I mean for what it's worth, I think the comic is pretty decent minus that part.

>>93803613
>anyone good eventually leave (sic) the thread
and yet, you're still here.
>>93803667
oh so you're saying the character is really obviously you? you can change that, for sure.
Just make the best comic you can make

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yeahh no dialogue pages!

>>93794665
>Childhood friend of main heroine
>Moved away in middle school years, lost contact after heroine suffered losing a parent
>Harbored crush on heroine over the years, even through their separation
>Years later, he's 18 and finally moves back to hometown and reunites with heroine
>Eventually decides to confess his love to her
>Gets shot down since she already has a boyfriend
>Calls boyfriend out to meet him in an empty field one night
>Decapitates boyfriend with an ax
>Leaves head and body in front of heroine's front door inside a garbage bag

My villain's mainly just a crazy asshole

>>93803728
Everyone decent only visits the threads to laugh at people who aren't on either of the discords

>>93803728
>you can change that, for sure.
This kills the story. Oh well, I have less self indulgent stories I can use. Maybe when I grow a pair, I'll get back to working on this one.

>>93804094
That doesn't sound like decency
>>93804306
If the story has to be a self-insert to be good, then.. go look up self-inserts, ask yourself which ones work and which ones suck, and why.

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>>93804306
Hey if half the webcomics out there don't care about having themselves as self-inserts in really embarrasing ways, neither should you.

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>>93804353
>That doesn't sound like decency

>>93794665
>antag born into royalty and with the power to see into dreams of anyone
>sees into the dreams of a girl he watches from his castle
>sees his kingdom fall to ruin and his family die horrible deaths
>not sure if this is what the girl wants or a dream predicting future events
>thinks the latter
>Antag looks for any catalyst that may cause his kingdom to fall
>finds an abundance of refugees from another continent entering the kingdom
>he sees this as a cause for ruin for his kingdom
>warns parents, guards, townspeople, anyone that will listen
>no one believes him
>he begins jumping into the dreams of nearly all of the refugees that enter the kingdom searching for a sign that they are planning to riot or something, but finds nothing
>because of his constant usage of his power he has begun to transform into this shadow creature that expels a knockout gas from his mouth/nose
>parents discover this and exile him from kingdom for being a bigot and a freak
>lives in a poor town close to the kingdom and lives as the village freak
>manufactures a sort of gas mask to make sure his face isnt flooded with gas, and a cloak to hide himself
>one day from the village he sees the kingdom burning
>he rushes to save anyone in the kingdom
>anyone who isnt dead only knows antag as a freak and is afraid of them
>he hears from fleeing townspeople that the king and queen have been killed
>he finds the girls body lifeless half buried in rubble while refugees stare at her corpse
>Antag goes full berserker and kills any refugees left in the kingdom.
>while slaughtering innocents Antag experiments with his powers and discovers he can take control of others
>uses this to take control of guards and then takes the throne
>has girl's body preserved so he may still gaze upon it
>begins conquest of refugee's country
>gets only power hungrier from there
>conquers world
>taps into dreams of people from other worlds and universes, mind controls them then conquers there world/universe
1/2

>>93805151
2/2
>after creating a considerably large cross universal empire Antag decides he must start looking for a way to bring the girl he loved back to life.
>from rumor and word of his people he hears that only one thing can return a soul to its body and bring it back to life, and that is the scythe of Death
>Antag begins to plan to steal the scythe of Death
>summons death to make a deal
>since he has honed his dream abilities he is able to trick death easily and take the scythe for his own
>has no idea how to use it or how to get his loves soul back, or even where it is for that matter.
>basically just pulled off the biggest pickpocket without any idea what to do next
>and now he has death's apprentice hunting him down

>>93805333
there's some really neat and unique ideas in there

>>93803613
threads will only get better as all the artists herr are actually willing to get out of their confort zone, which none here are, let's keep posting "curvy" girls with disproportionate boobs, that'll surely help

>>93805333
So the story follow Death's apprentice on his quest to get the scythe back from this tragic freak?
I could get behind it.

>>93805382
The irony in this post is clogging my lymph noids

>>93805151
>muh refugees
dropped, stay off pol

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Would you guys participate in a weekly challenge? I have in mind making one shots of 3 pages each posting them here and voting for the best ones, each week we would have a different theme and it would help us become more versatile and to experiment with different styles, would any of you participate?

>>93806607
I would, if anything setting myself on an actual challenge helps me to stop just sitting on my ass doing nothing.

Thing is, how would this be coordinated?

>>93806607
it's a great idea, the problem is every time we think up a fun idea, most everyone is busy on their comic and have no time to spare

>>93806669
>>93806679
I could make a trip to keep things organized but I'd need everyone's help, I think the challenge of seeing others improve will motivate everyone. As for time, I think the end product could be mostly skecthy but legible, the point is to experiment and it's a way for everyone to build a portfolio of work, with 3 pages I think everyone can work on their speed drawing and coming up with ideas

>>93807307
Lately it takes me almost a week to finish a page..

>>93807307
Sounds good, we just need to all be cooperative then. Also set some limit that is fair for everyone and set some guidelines.

>>93807369
Well if the end product can be sketchy I guess that could make it take less time maybe? Although I think the ideal scenario would be for all entries to be the closest to final product as possible.

>>93807477
I think there shouldn't be a standard, otherwise most people won't participate due to how much time it takes them to create a single page, rather everyone submmiting what they can will make them come up with new ways of having an end product fast and good

>>93807568
Fair point.

>>93807477
Also it can let writers to also participate with sketches

>>93806607
post work

>>93807663
I did these
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>>93783761

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>Be me
>Working on comic script for a year now
>Haven't done a release of the sketches
>Decide to take a break from it
>Make a small experimental comic in my native language
>My small fanbase loves it
>I'm actually considering focusing on this one rather than my main project

>MFW

>>93807751
You look like a nice guy, anon.

Haven't started working on it, because of depression over school, money, and my art being shit but I wanted to do a comic that was basically a deconstruction of the "super sentai" genre, but are franchise like Power Rangers even still popular enough for people to understand the references I make or should I go in a different direction?

Something kind of like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw5vcUPyL90 , and I would want the story to focus more on the characters and the effects of being a super hero have on them, rather then focus entirely on the sentai aspect

>>93809047
Power Rangers just got a hollywood movie adaptation and sentai in general is kinda popular between some people, so you have an audience for it. To those add the nostalgiafags too.

Althought really, super sentai kind of stuff is not too outdated yet, some shows still follow a similar formula and people recognize them.

>>93806607
Fuck yeah I'd love regular comic challenges in these threads. I'm in, what's the first theme/ topic?

>>93803907
Nice page!

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>>93781210
Reached again the unlucky situation of everything ready for color, but one panel completely un-drawn...

Her line in the last panel is "It's light enough to hold over my head! ...Just barely!" (to tie into something a few pages from now). It also seems like it should show both of them, although I guess he might be sleeping by that point.

I kind of wish I had ended up with a tall narrow panel instead. I'm either going to have to go with a wide shot of the room, focus on the drone above her head and have an extreme angle, or have just part of her in view.

>>93767949
I thought this was an official cartoon for a second lol

>>93799930
Imho that you must have a script ready before starting your comic. Like come on

anyone else entering the shonen manga contest?