Who was the worst Avatar, and why was it Korra?

You're still getting jollies out of this?

>>93743044
I will never no get jollies out of this. Last Airbender was one of my favorite shows growing up.

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>>93743024
That's because she was built for child-bearing, not fighting

>>93743143
Literally the only good thing about her is the porn.

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>>93743143
This.
Where's the AU where she become's Asami's maid/housewife after Season 3 robs her of her bending permanently/to the point of being redundant?

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Just becausr the show was bad doesn't mean Korra was. Korra herself is a likable characters, she's abrasive, impulsive, arrogant and irresponsible, she's pretty much perfect and I want her to sit on my face.

Korra's massive breasts.

>>93743306
I've had a fantasy along those lines, but it involves several disgusting fetishes and is much crueler to Korra.

>>93743448
>abrasive, impulsive, arrogant and irresponsible
>likable
Pick one

>>93743024
>Roku
>fails to stop his boyfriend from committing genocide and starting a world war

>Kuruk
>does literally nothing so bad that a spirit steals his wife's face

>>93743485
you'd prefer a marry sue?

>>93743448
You had a hard childhood I assume?

>>93743485
Different taste I suppose but I generally enjoy those traits in people, even more so in women.
I know a lot of people like that and they're fun to be around.

>>93743536

gonna marry that sue

>>93743541
Not particularly. Ups and downs but I don't see how that relates to my attraction to Korra.

>>93743560
You're damn right.

>>93743143
And now she's not even gonna do that because bryke made her gay for some reason

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>>93743024
>>Biggest accomplishment was a bisexual kiss that wasn't even shown on screen

i think that's what bothering you

>>93743024

Ending the fucking lineage and wiping out the chain of avatars seems a winning combo if you want to be the worst one ever.

The thing about Korra is that even within the canon of her own stupid little universe she's the worst avatar who failed the hardest and fucked everything up.

>>93743024
I liked this show because it gave my avatar 34 folder a nice big boost.

>>93743044

These autists can't get through the day without shitposting about Korra. Just ignore it.

I never see Avatar ruine the world like her ..

>>93743024
idk still better that the last Water Tribe Avatar

He did nothing and then his wife got killed and he died attempting to avenge her

At least there are a few good things you can say Korra did, that guy literally did nothing and still failed

>>93743024
>Loses connection to all previous Avatars

This was such a huge fuckup from the writing department of the show, what was the point? It just cheapened the Avatar state from being the collective experiences of all the other Avatars to just a powerup, completely pointless.

There was also the "She can't get guidance from past Avatars" thing too, but it wasn't really that relevant to the character and was just a "Oh she's REALLY in trouble now!" card to be pulled out the writer's ass.

>>93743024
>Korra
>worst avatar

well let go through the list
>Kuruk
>Usless sack of shit, that did nothing except get his girlfriend eaten by a spirit

>Kyoshi
Installed secret police that starts a terror-regime in Ba Sing Se because "lol, I can't be bothered"

>Roku
>enabled 100 years of war and genocide because "you are my friend"

>Aang
>sleeps through 100 years of war and genocide because too much responsibility

>meanwhile Korra
>stopped two civil- and one regular war.
>reestablished connection with the spirit world
>brought back air-benders
>stopped the spirit of darkness from destroying the world
>while her only "failure" was losing her connection to all those previous chucklefuck.

>>93745662
>meanwhile Korra
>stopped two civil- and one regular war.

- 1st solved via ass-pull air bending and an easily revealed, ultimately stupid disguise

- 2nd civil war ended because the bad side realized their leader was bad because the bad leader combined with the bad spirit and was about to usher in 1000 years of bad time

- 3rd war was ultimately stopped by a combined effort and in no real way was she responsible for it

>reestablished connection with the spirit world

- The same spirit world the mutated human being via forceful possession, killed them regularly, and caused them to be isolated on the backs of turtle lions if you apply the bum-fuck stupid canon from her series

>brought back air-benders

- No she didn't. There wasn't some magical "bring back a race of long dead people" switch to pull. It just happened because reasons.

>stopped the spirit of darkness from destroying the world

In an ass-pull ending, based around her ass-pull ability to pull so much from her ass that her spirit was somehow magically better than all her past lifetimes combined. once again because 'reasons'.

>while her only "failure" was losing her connection to all those previous chucklefucks

-And getting convinced to go to avatar island alone to face a terrorist
-And getting tricked into opening the spirit portal so Tarlok uku chucklefuck her uncle could get taken over by carpet satan
-And not using her political influence as the Avatar from all those press conferences to actually effect any good or request support where needed
-And constantly refusing on an almost fundamental level to learn from her mistakes and stop fucking running off on her own/not sticking to plans

I'm probably missing a few other situations but honestly, why even bother listing each incident of failure. Her entire Avatar career is defined by failure that the writers then make better via plot. hell the final episode of season 1 is basically like a summary for the rest of the series.

Are ALL avatards fucked in the head to the point that they think the only good protagonists are Mary Sues or is /co/ the only place lucky enough to be """""""""blessed"" by their presence?

Only reason why /co/ dislikes Korra is because of /pol/-influence.

>>93745927
nah, the hate's been going strong since late season 1, the lesbian twist was just a final fart before it walked out the door

>>93744876
I couldn't finish Korra, but if she did this I am quite peeved indeed. Why ruin a universe? It has so much potential.

>>93743536
>you'd prefer a marry sue?
ehhhhhhhhhhhh
>is proficient in 3 bending forms as a toddler when even shota zuko could barely do the shit she pulls off despite being like 3 times her senior, all with no training
>everyone seems to immediately love her despite her abrasive, arrogant, impulsive and irresponsible attitude
>she wrecks up a several thousand year old air nomad relic and tenzin apologizes to HER
>gains airbending just cause? no further training is shown with airbending so i guess she's as good as she's getting with it.
>gets her bending back for free, having made very little in the way of spiritual progress when aang had to at least meditate previously to even talk to past avatars
>fully masters the avatar state which aang only ever did at the end of the series thanks to the magic bullshit rock that everyone agrees was bullshit
>masters metalbending immediately despite having presumably never trained in seismic radar which even the comics showed were important in learning metalbending
>on top of her avatar powers, also becomes a blue spirit giant and manages to defeat the DARK AVATAR even without the energy of her past lives
>earns the adoration and praise of numerous established characters including katara, zuko and iroh, who they brought back from the dead just so he could talk her up
even though she jobs in fights, i'd argue she's pretty suey

>>93745995
>Why ruin a universe?
Money anon. Money.

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>>93743024
you're right but people thinking with their dick will tell you otherwise

>>93745927
>the only reason people dislike a bad show is because of 4-5 /pol/lack that sometimes visit, get told to fuck off back to /pol/ and generally have no visible presence or influence on the board
>Being this terrified of the big bad /pol/ bogeyman

>>93743519
So was every Avatar a screw up?

>>93748591
Aang did a decent job.

>>93743536
I'd prefer someone with more than a gram of gray matter in their head.

>>93743024
Korra was better, Aang was an annoying young hippy cunt.

>Gets her shit pushed in consistently
This is good, omnipotence makes for a boring plot, go watch DBZ, it will suit your capacities and
associated tastes better.

>Loses connection to all previous Avatars

Again, a good thing for the story progression.

>Biggest accomplishment was a bisexual kiss that wasn't even shown on screen

OOGA BOOGA who gives a shit?

>>93743024
You are one of those plebs who needs to be able take the place of the protagonist and the choices they make or else you will sperg out, you are the worst kind of pleb, learn to appreciate the plot instead of needing to identify with a character like a fucking child.

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>>93748981
>appreciate the plot in Korra
>Remembers season 2 of Korra
So you're just retarded, right?

>>93748591
Kyoshi was the GOAT avatar, she did everything right. and I have a thing for really tall women.

>>93748591
Roku didn't do too badly either, just got punked out at the wrong time by a guy he thought he could trust.

>>93743024
Korra was far from the worst Avatar. Did she make some mistakes, yes, but in the end she was still able to save the day and do her job.

>>93749118
No she didn't. She fucked up closing the spirit portal and then PR spun it into somehow being a good thing, even though it directly led to the problems in season 3, which directly led into the problems in season 4. Name 1 canonical Avatar that fucked up as consistently and as badly as her besides Wan, who I would argue gets some slack for being the first one.

>>93743457
Does it involve Asami becoming a villain of a "Save The Enviroment" episode?

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>>93749252
I didn't know I needed a Dr. Asami Blight cosplay so badly but now this boner is out of control.

>>93743536
You can have a character with flaws who isn't a a complete idiot.

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>>93749510
Buddy you're in luck.

>>93749185
She didn't close the portal, and the Spirits were never an issue again
>B-but Zaheer
As if she could control who got Airbending from all that magical bullshit.

>>93748531
He asked about the character, who is fine, not the series, which is bad.

>>93749083
The 100 year war was entirely his fault and no one elses.

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>>93749571
Murrlogic1 is a weird treasure to deviantart.

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>Aang
>let an entire nation conquer the world for one hundred years
>Korra
>saved the world 4 times

>>93749614
>The 100 year war was entirely his fault and no one elses.
Technically, it was Aang's, because he ran away and got frozen in a block of ice like an idiot. But then he spent the next 3 seasons making up for that.

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>>93749622
Posting the supreme picture of the compilation.

>>93749632
>>saved the world 4 times
From bad guys she also helped create.
Also, don't try to pretend like Amon was a world ending threat.

>>93749643
Aang was 12. He literally had no power to stop it and if he stayed he would have died.

>>93748997
Season 2 was one of the best, the ending was marysued, the rest was top notch.

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korra haters at it again sad

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>>93749692
>From bad guys she also helped create
you retarded or something

>>93749695
Exactly. This asshole is either trying to blame the guy who was killed when he was stabbed in the back by his best friend or a 12 year old. Korra had all the training and positive reinforcement in the world and still fucked it up as an older teen.

>>93743024
I love Korra hate threads, they're comfy.

>Season 1 was pretty good aside from the ending
>Season 2 was pretty bad, and only got worse the longer people thought about it
>Season 3 was GOAT, with the minor stain of killing off all the good villains too soon
>Season 4 was blegh

Last season Korra was pretty good though. I feel like they finally figured her out, only to drop the fucking ball with everyone else.

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>>93749907

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>four elements trainer
>if they ever do a korra trainer

>>93749961
>Season 2, fail to close spirit portal
>Leaving the spirit portal open causes airbenders to come back
>Airbenders coming back give Zaheer the power to put his plans in motion.
>Zaheer putting his plans in motion depowers Korra, and destabilizes the earth kingdom enough to set up Kuvira's rise to power.

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>>93750023
if you think every spirit is bad then you are a fucking fool and how Zaheer her fault air bending also went to some guy living with his mom in a basement fuck off you stupid fool stop bitching

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>>93750118
English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?

>>93745892
No. Korra is just too shitty to give her any praise. ATLA threads sometimes are good or full of shipping.

>>93748591
Kyoshu was ok. Aang actually did a lot of good.

Korra... Was just a terrible Avatar.

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>>93750135
>>93750141
not an argument

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>>93750164
good meme

>>93748918
Notice that this Anon can't defend the series plot with actual arguments regarding the world and character building. Because at least half of Korra was extremely badly writen.

Thinking with your dick.

>>93750375
And it wasn't content to ruin the new Avatar, but it retroactively made Aang and Katara shitty parents too, because THAT'S what old fans want.

>>93744876
She only killed a chain of them. Death not sex triggers the next avatar.

>>93750707
>She only killed all previous avatar's spirits, condemning them to an eternal hell of nothingness in a world where spirits 100% exist

>>93750720
>where spirits 100% exist
Where spirits reincarnate or can pass on to be reborn as "new love" like how the Guru tells Aang the air nomads have passed on.

>>93750861
Are you an idiot? The avatar spirit reincarnates as a new avatar, their spirit remains the same forever in the spirit realm. Now they're all dead because Korra is a fuck up.

>>93751069
>their spirit remains the same forever in the spirit realm.
You're talking about that web game that explained away how Aang "died" in the Avatar State but didn't lose the past lives, right?

>>93750118
You didn't even try.
Rather you should have said that Zaheer receiving airbending wouldn't have mattered if the White Lotus didn't intend on keeping Zaheer's group all locked up forever instead of just killing them or at least make Zaheer's prison more complex than just an iron gate.

The adults in LoK were also to blame in different ways.

>>93745780
Despite your great arguements you're still wrong
Because Won is the worst avatar.

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Despite all the shit Korra rightfully gets for being a dumbass, I actually didn't mind her when I was watching the show. I think that might be because all her friends were much more annoying, especially pic related who never got his comeuppance

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>there are people still mad about the gay ending

>>93752338
Sorry Tumblrina, it will never not be stupid and forced

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>>93752603
I don't deny it, but sometimes you just have to let go and enjoy what you get

>>93752647
What did we get besides porn?

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>>93752684
LOTS of porn. And also, if you're a dirty yurifag like me, the satisfaction of a canon ship, which makes fapping to it always easier

>>93746082
Which is why Toph was and will always be the best character in the series, since she's the only one who treats Korra like the massive fuck-up that she is. She's "seen" a real avatar before and Korra is sorely lacking.

>>93752730
>implying corrupting straight characters to the gay side isn't 100x more fappable

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>>93752826
Oh we have a connaisseur here

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>>93752856

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>>93743024
This guy did a 4-part analysis of each element of this shit, Mr. Plinkett style, The Legend of Whorra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmKaQqinWKY

>>93753191
>This guy
e;r senpai i know it's you

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>>93753191
>5 minutes until we even get to the summary of the show, starts with awful Amon impersonation
Jesus Christ Anon.

>>93753191
The more I watch the worse it gets. So far it's like 80% cringe

>>93746082
Nigga you could argue that for half of the cast both in LoK and ATLA.

>>93753191
Finally skipped to the 2nd episode and now it's only about 20% cringe.

>>93749571
>>93749622
>>93749654
Fuck off back to Funnyjunk!

>>93753628
that doesn't help her case any

>>93753628
Name 1 Mary Sue in ATLA.

>>93753769
Most of the main girls had a lot of Sue-ish qualities

>>93752785
>why Toph was and will always be the best character in the series
>doesn't do anything for Lin
>only gets out of the swamp for Suyin to bail Suyin out
Nah, Toph's a bitch with double standards.

>>93753769
azula

>>93753890
Literally insane and a perfectionist who hates herself as much as she does everyone around her.

>>93753889
Of all the main characters from ATLA, Toph is the one I can see being a shit mom.

>>93752785
She was also a cockmonger that didn't use protection then left her kids.

>>93753948
I blame Suyin's constant embarrassment of her mother's legacy and position as the reason why Toph left. Suyin is continuing the same shit Toph did of being an awful person and parent.

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>>93753948
>She was also a cockmonger
Tell me more, anon.

>>93753908
turns insane at the last second just in time for it to become detrimental, before then she's basically unbeatable. fucking kicking rocks aside with no effort, gymnastics on par with ty lee, martial arts on par with suki, lightning with basically no effort, super special blue fire for no reason, kills the fucking avatar, and is just generally infuriating every time she fights on screen because there's just no way she can lose at anything against anyone until the very end.

>>93743024
Reminder that Korra would make your infant daughter suck your dick

>>93754157
Please don't

>>93754099
Didn't Aang evade her like dozens of times? And she was only able to "kill" Aang because Zuko was helping her. Also Ty Lee seemed to beat her pretty easily here: https://youtu.be/4gGjPR6zJ_M

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>>93754157

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>>93754099
>turns insane at the last second just in time for it to become detrimental
So you're implying she WASN'T insane for the rest of the series?

>>93754240
oh sure they were able to run away from her plenty but in a one on one fight i think they only ever well and truly beat her was at the drill

>>93753191
You should watch his review of Wan as well. He points out everything wrong with those episodes.

>>93748591

We don't know if Avatar Yang Chen was a screw up because they didn't disclose enough about her past to determine that. She seemed pretty aggressive for an airbender though.

>>93754313
She wouldn't be a very good villain if they consistently beat her every time. Being a competent villain /= mary sue

>>93754312
not in a really detrimental way. i mean yeah, she can't get a boyfriend but i don't think she was interested in that guy so much as she just wanted to have that over ty lee. that's not really going to be harmful in battle during a war.

>>93754423

She was a perfectionist and a control freak. Her breakdown was due to being abandoned first by her friends and then again by her father. She had issues with abandonment since Ursa left. She tends to get irritated and start behaving more erratically when things don't go as she planned - that would definitely be a detriment on the battlefield.

>>93749695
Aang is the Avatar, he has all the power in the world.

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>>93754797
I... I'm not even going to waste the effort refuting that point. You've obviously never even seen the series or are so stupid you probably can't even read what I've typed here. Powerful =/= Mary Sue.

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Here's a Mary Sue

>>93754935
>you will never goad 2 of your sons to attempt an assassination on your adopted daughter while she sleeps
>you will never be defeated and shown mercy by said adopted daughter
>you will never watch your adopted daughter rot in jail for the rest of her life
>you will never save your oldest son, who aided and abetted your adopted daughter, from having to face his punishment
>you will never be vindicated by everyone despite all the terrible things you've done

>>93753890

Azula had problems and thus not a mary sue.

>>93754099

Breakdown =/= insane.

>>93754240

She didn't kill Aang.

>>93754312

No she wasn't you idiot.

>>93754586

Because she had shitty parents that didn't care for her.

>>93755567
fuck off scrapper

>>93755567
>She didn't kill Aang
That's why I used quotation marks

>>93755705
Stop giving cancer attention

>>93743519
>Roku
>fails to stop..
You can't fail what you never started. It also wasn't his plan to die. However Korra opening the portals was the most pure form of retardation.

>>93749050
Kyoshi was Roku's level of lazy. She literally did nothing as an emperor was conquering everything until he tried to take her island/peninsula.

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>>93752134
>show is basically multiculturalism propaganda
>The air jew girl gets blacked
>ends with lesbians
So.. is this show /pol/ approved?

>>93756342
>blacked
I'm pretty sure Kai was arab

>>93756399
Even worse.

>>93756458
>mudslimed

>>93743024
>Biggest accomplishment was a bisexual kiss that wasn't even shown on screen
I don't know, freeing and strengthening Satan, as well as unleashing immortal, hostile magical beings onto the world en masse that drove humanity to near extinction last time are pretty big accomplishments.

>>93756581
Not sure I'd call "abject failures" the same as "accomplishments" but you're right, fucking up that bad is kind of impressive in its own right

>>93749185
>Name 1 canonical Avatar that fucked up as consistently and as badly as her besides Wan
Wan sealed away the spirits, which allowed civilization to blossom, and broke the normal cycle of Harmonic Convergence by locking Vaatu in the tree. He had the biggest issues facing humanity well taken care of before Korra royally fucked it up.

>>93749598
>the Spirits were never an issue again
>rendering huge swathes of land uninhabitable
>unleashing monsters into the world
>ripping out people's souls because of something someone else did thousands of miles away

>>93750118
>if you think every spirit is bad
Literally any spirit will go berserk and start tearing people to pieces if its around negative emotions. Lots of spirits are feral and almost none of them care about humans.

>>93757031
I only included Wan because he also kinda screwed the pooch by helping the closest thing to the devil in their universe escape.

>>93757135
Harmonic Convergence would have happened anyway. Wan actually improved the situation by sealing him in the tree, where he would have stayed if Korra didn't break him out.

>>93757186
Then I take it back, Korra is 100% the worst without any competition even coming close.

>>93748591
There seems to be a subtle theme in the franchise that every Avatar inevitably ends up cleaning up after one or more of the mistakes of their predecessors.

Aang has to deal with Koh (Kuruk's fault), the Dai Li and the ancestors of Chin's the Conqueror's supporters (Kyoshi's fault), and of course the Fire Nation (Roku's fault). Korra has to deal with Vaatu and the portals (Wan's fault), the Dai Li (still Kyoshi's fault), Yakone's sons and the Red Lotus, (Aang's fault).

>>93757281
>Korra has to deal with Vaatu and the portals (Wan's fault)
That wasn't Wan's fault whatsoever. All Korra had to do was nothing and nothing bad would have happened.

>>93757326
>Good and evil spirits locked in eternal conflict
>BETTER GET INVOLVED AND BREAK UP THIS FIGHT WHOSE MOTIVES AND STAKES I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF

>>93749598
>never an issue again

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>93757420
>BETTER GET INVOLVED AND BREAK UP THIS FIGHT
As noted, Harmonic Convergence was inevitable. Wan actually broke the cycle by locking away Vaatu and strengthened the spirit of light by merging with it.

Then Korra came along and fucked everything up because she's retarded.

are people actually talking about the harmonic convergence shit and vaatu portal garbage like they're actual points of discussion and not giant mistakes in a very long line of mistakes in lok's writing

>>93748591
Yangchen > Kyoshi > Aang > Fire Avatar before Yangchen > Number Wan > Kuruk > Roku > Korra

>>93752338
Is that the ending? Never watched the show, but with a one-liner like that. The show seems pretty flat.

>>93757618
>Fire Avatar before Yangchen
Fandom name for him is Avatar Jafar

>>93753191
...and 1 minute in, I already know the Uploader is biased against this show. Why should I continue watching?

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>>93757615
>are people actually talking about the harmonic convergence shit and vaatu portal garbage like they're actual points of discussion and not giant mistakes in a very long line of mistakes in lok's writing
The thing about /co/ and the internet at large is that they will suck Wan's dick despite the fact that said dick shouldn't have ever been whipped out in the first place since what it brings up for the series doesn't make sense. People will praise Wan because he's not Korra.

>>93757811
>biased against a show he doesn't like
yeah that's how opinions work brainiac.

>>93757881
Nah, I hated Wan's little story sidetrack too, because it makes no sense in the established universe we've been given and actively destroys what should have probably remained a mystery.

>>93757326
>>93757186
>>93757031
All the tree did was prevent Vaatu from being broken out prematurely. Wan didn't break the cycle at all.

He would broke out due to Harmonic Convergence regardless of what Korra did.

>>93757072
Korra releasing the spirits was dumb but people exaggerate the consequences to make her seem worse. At most it was a couple of blocks of Republic City that was taken over and they were basically harmless unless you turn them into nukes.

>>93758014
>At most it was a couple of blocks of Republic City that was taken over

until some koh-tier spirit decides to go roaming about

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>>93758014
>basically harmless
Oh that's not so bad-
>unless you turn them into nukes.

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Here's my counterpoint.

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>>93758014

yup, this definitely won't cause problems in the future.

>>93758014
>All the tree did was prevent Vaatu from being broken out prematurely.
It prevented him from getting out at all.

>He would broke out due to Harmonic Convergence
Never remotely implied. He was freed because both portals were opened.

>but people exaggerate the consequences to make her seem worse
They undersell it. Only reason spirits didn't completely wipe out humanity last time was the lion turtles, who don't protect humanity any more. Vaatu (the embodiment of evil) was the one who brought them over in the first place, and Raava directly states they don't belong in the physical world.

>At most it was a couple of blocks of Republic City that was taken over
They took over enough to be considered a new section of the city. That is just what we see directly. You also forget the extra monsters roaming around (such as the one in the desert).

>unless you turn them into nukes.
Or be having a bad day, at which point every spirit in the immediate area will go dark and rip your face off.

>>93757935
Thanks for the tip Einstein.

>>93758164
>and Raava directly states they don't belong in the physical world.
We need send the moon spirit back then. And the ocean one. And any number of other spirits that make up the mortal world's celestial bodies or aspects of nature.

>>93758279
Um, did you not see how badly things went for the moon spirit because it was in a mortal form?

>>93758323
it got better

>>93758507
Only thanks to a Deus ex Machina. Shit was almost wrecked forever because they did what Raava said they shouldn't do.

>>93743024
Let me try to clear things up for fags and anti fags. (Not OP)

There's a difference between a flawed character and a likable and good character. The fact of the matter is despite getting the shit beat out of her and her sometimes attempting to listen to other people's advice, these events/qualities do not balance out her personality/ability problems. Oh they are used to try to balance them, but only in an obligatory way that feels like the writers went and said 'we can't make her too much of an <insert bad quality here> so let's do <insert countermeasure here> that must make her an awesome character, right?'
It's like a developer constantly patching up a problem they created without fixing the fundamental error that makes their program worthless.

It's more of a matter of everything turning out the way it does because of plot convience rather than through the effort of the character herself. She gets beat up because they need her to be beat up at one point. She gets her powers back because the writer needs her to get her power back at another point. Korra is more of a device than a character, dragged along, upgraded and downgraded, and failing and succeeding for the sake of convience.

>>93758531
that wasn't a deus ex machina and was actually pretty well set up beforehand in previous episodes. y'all need to learn what writing terms mean before you toss them around like you know what you're talking about.

>>93758580
You're right, I forgot about the setup where she explains the moon spirit saved her life as a baby, mea culpa. It was still pure luck that the moon spirit was killed when a back-up was available.

>>93758625
a lot of fights in avatar are won by pure luck. the villains are usually the ones with plans and foresight, the good guys just get lucky and barely scrape by.

>>93758570
>It's more of a matter of everything turning out the way it does because of plot convience rather than through the effort of the character herself. She gets beat up because they need her to be beat up at one point. She gets her powers back because the writer needs her to get her power back at another point. Korra is more of a device than a character, dragged along, upgraded and downgraded, and failing and succeeding for the sake of convience.
It's been covered before in various threads:
ATLA was character driven with an overarching goal that was visible and tangible.
LoK was plot driven with no goal.

>Um, did you not see how badly things went for the moon spirit because it was in a mortal form?
So why did the moon and ocean spirits cross the road?

>>93757618
>Kyoshi infront of Roku
Roku's only mistake was dying, there was no reason to kill his best friend if he already backed down like a bitch. Kyoshi was an apathetic cunt who didn't give a fuck about the rest of the world.

I just finished Korra yesterday.

I'd kill for another Avatar show. Especially since the next Avatar is going to be from the Earth Empire.

Make it adult oriented, [as].

>>93759089
>I'd kill for another Avatar show
It'd just be as bad as Korra, the creators have no idea how to make this show work

>>93759274
I'm no script writer, but I feel like they'd know what to do if they pick up when the Avatar is already an adult and doesn't lose nearly every fight he gets into.

>>93759089
Honestly, I'd love to see us go way back to the 2nd Avatar. Imagine being the one after Wan. You're not the first, but now you're in charge of setting of an entire legacy after the first guy ultimately failed.

>>93759274
Gonna have to agree with this anon, no chance for another good Avatar series unless totally new people are involved.

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>>93743448
>Korra herself is a likable character

>>93759089
just read the dark horse comics and call it a day
they were all right, i read em all

>>93749118
>she was still able to save the day
>save the day
SHE LITERALLY CAUSED THREE SEASONS OF HER OWN SHOW

>>93760538
Seriously, almost every action she takes just seems to make the world more and more of a worse place. The best thing she ever did was become too crippled to fuck up the world for a few years.

>Korra opens the spirit portals
>spirits just kinda kidnap people if they feel like it or get too mad at other unrelated people
>the desert is now host to something big enough to pick zeppelins out of the sky
>remember that guy? that guy a past avatar dealt with? maybe he might've mentioned it? something something the face taker? whatever
>the entire premise of season 2 is that if spirits get mad enough they'll just turn completely feral and mindless and attack people, even civilizations
>all those times in the wan story spirits just casually kill or mutilate humans

a cool and good decision

>>93759310

What does being an adult have to do with the Avatar's capabilities? Aang won quite a few fights and he tried to be a pacifist. Seriously, Korra is hilarious to watch if you MST3K it. She and her friends loses ALMOST every fight they have unless it's a season finale.

>>93761008
>>the desert is now host to something big enough to pick zeppelins out of the sky
The unagi surrounding Kyoshi Island and the serpent of Serpent's Pass exist and yet people still travel by boat and trade still commences overseas.
The Avatar world is filled with terrifying combinations of creatures.

>>93760538
>SHE LITERALLY CAUSED THREE SEASONS OF HER OWN SHOW
>Korra told the White Lotus to keep the terrorists who tried to kill world leaders and kidnap her locked up
>Korra told them to keep Zaheer in a average cell up in the mountains because nonbenders can not be adept combatants in martial art shows
>Korra told her elders, mentors, and family not to tell her about the terrorists ever
It's a team effort. They ALL caused everything together because of lack of communication.

>>93761193
>>Korra told them to keep Zaheer in a average cell up in the mountains because nonbenders can not be adept combatants in martial art shows
In defense of this point, it was a completely serviceable prison for him up until he suddenly developed powers they didn't know he was capable of getting.

>>93761839
still incredibly contrived that the one guy who happened to be the biggest windaboo in the fucking world managed to get air powers and mastered that shit without training. unless you mean to tell me he studied air nomad bending styles extensively along with their philosophies from some scrolls or some shit, which pakku from avatar even says are no substitute for a real master of which there is only one airbending master in the fucking god damn world.

>>93761008
Don't forget there being spirits that personify concepts. I'm sure the Avatar equivalent of Azathoth will take well to humans entering his turf and messing with shit.

>>93761100
>The unagi surrounding Kyoshi Island and the serpent of Serpent's Pass exist
They're flesh and blood creatures. Spirits are indestructable, can teleport, and go berserk if you stub your and swear angrily enough.

>>93761839
>it was a completely serviceable prison for him up until he suddenly developed powers they didn't know he was capable of getting.
It's the same stupidity of said prison that allowed for Iroh to walk out and for Yakone to have others bust him out.
Zaheer and his group was treated as a threat. They attempted to kidnap the Avatar and attacked world leaders and relations of Avatar Aang to do so.
If killing is okay for the North and South for Unalaq to use, then why wasn't the death penalty brought up for attempts on the Southern Chief, the last Airbending mentor, father of the Avatar, Fire Lord, and the others who were there like Aang's wife?

>>93762014
>Spirits are indestructable, can teleport, and go berserk if you stub your and swear angrily enough.
I wonder who stubbed their toe and swore angrily enough out in the middle of the desert to trigger that spirit that wasn't immune to fire since its insides got fried by Korra's fireblast?
I wonder how spirits are indestructible in season 2 until they aren't?
I wonder why Koh hasn't teleported behind everyone and spooked their faces off?

>Don't forget there being spirits that personify concepts.
Air nomads apparently used to regularly visit the spirit world since they were so spiritual by projecting themselves there. So the spirits suddenly have a double standard when they didn't back then? Azathoth didn't do anything back then?

The seas are host to the unagi and sea serpent which can eat boats too. Plus the people on them.

>>93761975
I'm willing to accept that the guy who seems to have spent his entire life obsessing over airbenders almost to the point of neurosis probably has an advantage to using airbending when he actually manages to get it.

>>93762032
This is actually a valid point, although if questioned I'm sure they'd throw out the "don't make them a martyr" argument, they really should have killed these motherfuckers if they were so dangerous to begin with.

>>93762121
>I wonder who stubbed their toe and swore angrily enough out in the middle of the desert to trigger that spirit
>hurr it didn't happen in these specific instance so it doesn't happen at all
>the spirit attacking completely unprovoked is a good thing

>I wonder how spirits are indestructible in season 2 until they aren't?
Like when a nameless dark spirit trashed a fully realized Avatar, in the Avatar State, in a straight fight.

>I wonder why Koh hasn't teleported behind everyone and spooked their faces off?
Probably because, like most spirits, he really doesn't give a fuck about people on way or another. Which is great unless you're living in close proximity to spirits, like everyone on the planet now.

>Air nomads apparently used to regularly visit the spirit world
No such thing is ever implied. Iroh having visited the spirit world at all is viewed as extraordinary and rare in ATLA.

>So the spirits suddenly have a double standard
Spirits have no standards. They do whatever they please and will freak out over nothing. Also, yes, I imagine the odd highly spiritual person crossing over into their world after years of practice is going to be a bit different than a bunch of know nothing assholes walking through a gate in the poles/city.

>Azathoth didn't do anything back then?
Do you not know what Azathoth is referencing?

>The seas are host to the unagi and sea serpent which can eat boats too.
That are limited to one physical territory. Spirits can hop across the planet and murder world leaders on a whim, and there's absolutely nothing anyone can do to prevent that.

>>93761193
>Korra told the White Lotus to keep the terrorists who tried to kill world leaders and kidnap her locked up
penalty for kidnapping should be death? what's your point here?

>Korra told them to keep Zaheer in a average cell up in the mountains because nonbenders can not be adept combatants in martial art shows
The cell kept him there for 13 years until he got bending. It worked just fine.

>Korra told her elders, mentors, and family not to tell her about the terrorists ever
That has nothing to do with Zaheer getting powers

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>>93758164
>You also forget the extra monsters roaming around (such as the one in the desert).
That was just a normal run-of-the-mill animal that already existed, like the serpent from Serpent's Pass.

>>93758155
Only that one specific asshole spirit did that.
#notallspirits

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>>93761975
>mastered that shit without training
I don't know why people say Zaheer mastered airbending.

He had trouble bending with it in the early episodes and got straight up outclassed by Tenzin, an actual airbending master, until the Red Lotus ganked him.

>>93762365
Spirits are generally insane, you have no fucking idea which ones are which and you just let all of them pour into the physical realm.

>>93762442
i don't know, for the amount of training zaheer has, again none, you'd think this fight would be a lot more one sided. like an actual trained adult going toe to toe with a child who just learned how to use it. but zaheer is holding his own against tenzin and pulling off some impressive maneuvers, never mind being able to pull off shit we've never seen airbenders do like completely remove air from a space and GOD DAMN FLY. all i'm saying is that if zaheer wasn't an evil asshole he'd probably have gotten his tattoos along with jinora. that's kind of a problem with the series as a whole in comparison to avatar, no one really has to work for anything.

>>93762442
>I don't know why people say Zaheer mastered airbending
He defeated other masters of other elements AND invented a new technique. He is a master, he is just not on Tenzin's level. Being a master doesn't mean you have to be on par with every other master.

>>93762603
>He is a master
He doesn't consider himself as such, noting it was an honor to meet a real master like Tenzin.

>>93762595
>i don't know, for the amount of training zaheer has, again none

I think we all know he probably studied airbending scrolls like the autistic airweeb that he is. Most likely did the motions all day then cried to sleep because he couldn't airbend

>>93762545
This, piss on a tree and you might upset a group of them that like the colors of it's leaves then they either fuck you over or try to murder/takeover an entire nearby village.

>>93762640
Start cutting some vines and they'll kidnap civilians on the other side of the continent and put them in pods for some reason

Meanwhile the same person who cut all the spirit branches will come around to blast an entire city off the map and the spirits don't do shit because they think Korra and Kuvira is the same

I mean they're not wrong, but they're being arbitrary bitches about it

>>93762630
even after katara read those scrolls and became more adept at waterbending, she still didn't even compare to pakku in their first fight and got her ass handed to her. why bother finding an elemental master on your avatar quest when you can just read scrolls otherwise? i can buy zaheer knowing the basics, but being anywhere near tenzin's level is bullshit up with which i will not put.

>>93762624
"considering" has nothing to do with it. Zaheer is just too strong, enough to fight the Avatar. It is unlikely any other airbender, even Jinora (who is considered a master), could take him down. The fact that he got that good in two weeks and inside a JAIL is ridiculous.

>>93762754
>Zaheer is just too strong, enough to fight the Avatar.
Aang as a child would have kicked the shit out of him, Korra is just that horrifically incompetent.

>>93762719
>even after katara read those scrolls and became more adept at waterbending, she still didn't even compare to pakku in their first fight

Still managed to put up a fight, and she had a few months, Zaheer could have had years, along with possibly a shitload of supplemental material

>>93762808
>Still managed to put up a fight
Pakku was fucking with her, he could have crushed her ass at a moment's notice.

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>>93762794
Pretty much this

>>93762828
He didn't seem so confident when the ice sheets were inches away from cutting him

What really frustrates me is that despite the fact Korra consistently fucks up, it seems like all the other characters go out of there way to suck her lady-dick. I remember specifically in season 3 where Tenzin compliments her for being slightly less of a hotheaded asshole as she used to be, and Korra smugly replies with something like, "I'm the Avatar, that's what I do: solve problems." Despite the fact that she caused around 3/4ths of the world ending threats in the show almost single handedly.

>>93762869
Seriously
>experiences first hand how ridiculously OP bloodbending is
>is given a detailed explanation of how to learn to bloodbend during the day
>is friends with the second bloodbender ever
>falls within her native element and duty as an Avatar to master
>has three years off with nothing better to do
>never even attempts to learn it

>>93762910
Now tumblr latching onto this show makes a lot more sense

>>93762872
Which only happened because he didn't crush her immediately and it still wasn't a serious threat.

>>93762872
inches away sure, but watch the fight again, he never gets hit once. it's entirely one-sided.

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>>93762595
>>93762603
>>93762754
I think people are conflating Zaheer's fighting skill with his airbending skill. Zaheer was already badass as a nonbender who made a career fighting benders. He's basically doing the same shit he did as a nonbender. It's like giving a boxer a pair of brass knuckles. They're doing the same boxing techniques, it's just a whole lot more damaging. Zaheer's the same, just with air.

There's also the inherent advantages of airbending. It's invisible and nearly no one knows how to fight against it since there's only been 1 master for a generation.

His actual airbending skills are lacking. Compare his skills to Tenzin in the webm. He isn't getting raped, but he doesn't land a single hit on Tenzin. His movements are also a lot more labored. He has to do a bunch of parkour shit to get up the walls while Tenzin just effortlessly floats past him. Even his spins are different.

>AND invented a new technique
He didn't invent a new techniique. Just rediscovered an old one

>Zaheer is just too strong, enough to fight the Avatar.
He never fought Korra on an equal footing. The first time he fought her, she in handcuffs. The second time, she was dieing of mercury poisoning.

>>93763034
>His actual airbending skills are lacking. Compare his skills to Tenzin in the webm. He isn't getting raped, but he doesn't land a single hit on Tenzin. His movements are also a lot more labored. He has to do a bunch of parkour shit to get up the walls while Tenzin just effortlessly floats past him. Even his spins are different.
Seriously, he's pretty much running away for the entire webm and just barely getting off enough shots to slow Tenzin down. I wouldn't exactly call that fighting a master to a standstill.

>>93763255
>he's pretty much running away for the entire webm
you mean like an airbender

>>93763317
Airbending is about dodging and weaving, not desperately trying to disengage from combat all together.

>>93761100
>The Avatar world is filled with terrifying combinations of creatures
So why would adding more be a good idea?

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>>93745927
Why do people on /co/ blame every single issue of their own board on /pol/?

Is /pol/ the scapegoat for /co/ having differing opinions or saying something edgy?

>>93750020
English?

>>93745780
Dont forget
>Amons rebellion against benders was agreed upon by tons of people
>All these people do a complete 180 when Amon is discovered to be a bender himself
>There is iterally no Equalist faction after the first season, n moderate political movement of them nor an extremist Neo-Equalist movement or cringy student "Amonite" groups

>>93750174
That wasn't a sentence either

>>93748591
>ywn get a series of Avatar Yang Chen going through the same moral motions of Aang but choosing to execute the big bad to save the world
the big bad is an airbender