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The Great X-Men Storytime - Vol. 5: Fall of the Mutants (Part 12) 2017-07-08 10:41:41 Post No. 93730076
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The Great X-Men Storytime - Vol. 5: Fall of the Mutants (Part 12)
X-Anon
2017-07-08 10:41:41
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Let's go on vacation... to Genosha!
PREVIOUSLY ON X-MEN:
>>90350171
>>90426560
>>90484420
>>90590597
>>90627494
>>90665234
>>90957050
>>93604615
>>93622139
>>93666377
>>93705778
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Hol up
is these Leonardi on interiors or Silvestri
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Sounds like a lovely place!
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>>93730183
Leonardi.
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>>93730247
All in, my dude. I am here for this.
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>We hit him with everything we had
Geez!
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Thanks X-Anon
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>>93730400
No problemo, anon!
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>We don't want to hurt anybody
But we'll try and kill you all the same!
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Science...?
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Did they give Gateway a shirt? lol
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Et tu, Alex?
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The original Genosha arc is as good as the X-Men ever got.
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>>93730830
"genejoke" with that hard "k" at the end is a much more credible slur than the coyly teasing "mutie".
Like, you might watch mutie porn, but genejokes are what you bitch about on /pol/.
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That second panel is pretty good.
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What's the deal with Punchout's name? It's been edited in every textbubble in this story.
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>Locals never understand our purpose
Gee, I wonder why...
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>>93730974
I like genequeer too. But yeah, "mutie" sounds too much like cutie for anyone to really take it seriously.
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>>93730454
Pre-inferno maddie is such a badass. I love the idea of this powerless normal who has *seem some shit* just soldiering on, helping however she can - running computers, flying planes, punching fascists. This version has nothing in common with the goblyn queen; I wish we could've kept her.
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>>93731014
I dunno, reminds me of those X-Factor issues we read a good while back that had edited speech bubbles too for some unknown reason.
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>>93731120
She really is better Jean.
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I dig this cover.
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>>93730830
rogue powers up and tears her clothes
*drink*
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Also, they're naked!
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>>93731172
Yeah; on a side note, I really fucking wish, when Scott inevitably returns, they put him and Maddie back together. It would do a great deal to undo the decades of character derailment, if his redemption arc includes him reconciling with his first wife and her being allowed back into the X-Family.
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>>93731292
back to sylvestri! both artists on this arc are great, but the fact that they rotate is the only thing that mars it.
We established in >>93730881 that pipeline can teleport clothes and equipment if he wants, so I guess he sent Rogue and Wolverine naked to Genosha just to fuck with them.
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>>93731376
I wouldn't be surprised if Scott didn't return until current management left, which is at least one or two more decades from now.
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>>93731410
>Anti-Mutie squad
>lets a clear mutie on top brass
I've never read xmen much but I;m gonna assume this is a recurring theme
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>>93731354
Did Episode I straight up rip off this beat? Or is it a trope?
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>With great power comes great responsibility
Christ.
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>>93731410
so uh... if Rogue's powers are gone thenI guess these guards are in for a treat...
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>>93731459
They're not always "top brass", but yeah, I think it goes back all the way to the Hounds from Days of Future Past.
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>>93731513
Actually not even joking, as seen in this page.
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>>93731598
and Magneto was in the sonderkommando, and Belasco made Illyana a participant in her own abuse...
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>>93731482
It's kind of a trope.
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>>93731830
i'm not sure if i like psylocke, of if I like the sexy god damn purple she got assigned.
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>>93731630
Classic Claremont classiness.I'm absolutely shocked --SHOCKED-- that no "between the panels" r34 has come from this...
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Yuh-oh.
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>>93731897
Porn artists don't read comics, especially not old comics.
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>literally "It was nuthin personnel, kid"
>literally "I was only following orders"
Jaysus H. Christ.
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*jazz music starts playing*
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>>93732178
I mean, something had to solidify the trope. also thanks again for this epic years-long quest of a story time.
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Oh look, it's the real Carol Danvers!
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>>93732129
perhaps... but those that commission porn artists do. but then again, I guess those types don't tend to share what they've spent their money on.
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Damn, Carol could kick ass.
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>>93732210
No problem, anon. Glad you've been enjoying the ride.
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>>93732129
So much lewd potential one to waste.
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>>93732364
huh.
didn't know Carol could change Rogue's voice...
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GODDAMMIT CLAREMONT YOU AND YOUR FUCKING STAR WARS REFERENCES
I wonder what he thought of the prequels?
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Genosha sounds like a lovely place Captain America would hate with every fiber of his being.
I know Genosha is an X-Men deal, but camps? Slave labor? Steve(well, a good written Steve) would put his boots to their asses so hard.
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>>93732452
I chalk it up to classic comic booky silliness.
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>>93732600
Problem is, they're technically not doing anything illegal (other than the kidnapping). The only thing left is to topple the current administration, and even that goes more into the morally gray side of things.
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>>93732681
Very true. It does get murky. By the way, I love the fact Logan uses his spy/wetworks experience during this era and Carol is from the same cloth.
I know Ultimate was knee deep with the government super hero thing but 616 has quite a few heroes with military ties(Cap, Logan, Carol, Ben Grimm, War Machine, Alpha Flight, Quasar, USAgent, Forge)
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>>93732861
Spies/black ops is definitely a pretty underused genre in superheroes, yeah. They probably haven't bothered because it wouldn't sell and it's not in vogue right now.
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*Irish pub music starts playing*
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>>93733104
>Somewhere Banshee feels he's missing out on fun
And damn, I know it's unlikely but can we get a Wolverine/Captain Marvel series where they are friends? Doing super powered spy shit, fighting entire bars and whupping hidden evil ass?
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>>93732983
Kirby Cap does it in TOS and later on in Madbomb n stuff.
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>>93733247
But anon, what kind of Wonder Wo--, I mean, what kind of role model would Carol be if she went around doing spy stuff and getting into bar fights? Think of the profits, I mean, children!!
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Geez, this is harsh.
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>it becomes your skin
That's creepy. Brrrrr.
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Damn right "finally"!
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>>93733302
She still can be!
>"There goes Captain Marvel! She beat up that hidden HYDRA/Kree group that ran O'Ryan's Pub!!"
>"Whatta hero! Way better than that criminal Spider-Man."
>"But didn't he help?"
>"Please. You should have read that 10 editorial Jamerson wrote yesterday."
>Spidey just shakes his head and grumbles while Carol pats him on the back.
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Goddammit, Betsy.
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>>93733569
You and I both know this, it's the suits who are utterly clueless and want everything to be as cookie-cutter as possible.
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I know they were probably drunk, but they must have realized this was a horrible idea at some point while dressing up the kid.
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Very McFarlane face on Wolvie in that last panel.
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Last Uncanny issue for this volume! That's right, we're approaching the end!
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>>93732550
Wait...if Wolverine has no powers, wouldn't his body start to reject the adamantium in his skeleton? And if he pops his claws, he would start bleeding and the wounds wouldn't close. Oh well, comic books.
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>>93733633
I know. It's just sad, but Marvel can be SO much better.
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This sequence right here is pretty boss.
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Damn! Say what you will about the event itself, but that's how you tease it!
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>>93732507
aa couple of comments
-rogue carol is best carol
-it is crazy how long logans claws werent a mutation
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>>93730454
>[If this was not a storytime I would post that pocket sand gif from KOTH]
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I wish Maddie and Selene were still used
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>>93731630
I can understand an asshole military guy being fine with the rape but a woman? Would one really just brush it off?
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>>93735407
She doesn't see them as human, and rape is just the start of what they're going to do.
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Whoops, sorry to leave you hanging folks, something had turned up. Let's finish this issue!
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>dose pointy Silvestri noses
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Pretty cool panel with Maddie's eyes in the shadows.
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Did everyone just leave?
lol
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>>93735884
I'm here! Thanks OP.
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Kill 'em all, Maddie.
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>>93735905
Coolio!
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>>93735648
Nothing compared to how pointy anime noses are.
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>I've been a slave
Logan, you've been more things than Homer Simpson.
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Alright, ass-kicking time!
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>>93734360
Inferno gets a bad rap. It's actually a good event when taken in context of everything that went before it, and in context of all the bullshit editorially that derailed what Claremont wanted.
The man did amazingly, despite having to go against what he actually wanted to write.
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>>93736153
I actually agree, I love this entire era, with its ups and downs.
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>>93732600
Captain America doesn't care about mutant people
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I know she's not actually doing it, but it looks like she's breastfeeding the baby, and that is some pretty risque imagery for a Big Two book.
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>lover
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And that's it for Uncanny X-Men for this volume! Next time: Colossus goes solo! See ya guys then!
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>>93736243
Basically. Fall Of The Mutants until Muir Island Saga was really one of the most interesting periods of X-Men, because it upended the stereotypical X-Men MO for a while. The splintered team timeframe especially did something different and unexpected. The introduction of new enemies like the Reavers, the Right (though primarily an X-Factor thing), and the Genoshans was pretty awesome for me. I kinda wish that the X-books now had people writing that didn't want to do callbacks and did want to press forward and make something new. At least something new and flawed would be more interesting than the same Claremont/Simonson/Lobdell story from 20+ years ago retold again and again with MadLib detail changes.
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>>93736513
Thanks!
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>>93736660
The problem with pressing forward is that event shit will derail you and books get relaunched every year
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>>93731255
Why does Rogue's costume keep changing? This is the third time since the thread started.
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>>93736513
Thanks, mate
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>>93736709
That "event shit" is how you get Rightclops, The Dark Avengers, and SpOck.
The unanimously agreed upon best stuff of the past 20 years was all "event stuff".
The little details, changes, and snuck-in retcons that appear in single issues are the things /co/ won't stop bitching about.
Like Iceman's outing, Carol's costume changes, and Spidey's OMD.
None of those were from events.
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Thanks OP
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>>93731513
l-lewd!!!!
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>>93733889
>Wait...if Wolverine has no powers, wouldn't his body start to reject the adamantium in his skeleton?
That's what's preventing his body from producing red blood cells normally. see >>93732837
Now how Logan's body normally produces new blood cells at all when all access to his bone marrow is Adamantium plated, I couldn't say...
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>>93735884
you kiddin? You made my night, anon. I friggen love Silvestri and Leonardi X-books. I only just got into comics seriously right after X-Men/X-Force hit and missed all this good shit that came before.
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>>93733247
never have i needed something so bad and never known until I had unrecieved it.
why do you make me wish for good Marvel comics anon, you know it's going to be another twenty years and by then no-one will remember these good old days...
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>>93733889
both your complaints have actually been addressed in the comics anon...
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>>93735407
Here's the thing anon, that whole "Sisterhood of women" thing? It's utter crap.
Women do not care about other women except as it affects them socially/biologically. Women slut shame because it lowers the value of their sex. But sex slavery? women are perfectly fine with that so long as it's either a) not women of their tribe, or even b) a woman of the tribe who is a direct competitor to them.
As far as that lady is concerned, Rogue isn't a woman of her tribe, so she doesn't care if Rogue gets raped. So long as she gets the resources of "the man", she doesn't care if someone else does the carnal labor of "the mans" desires.
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>>93739326
This is some shoddy art. I forgot how much I hate traditional superhero comic art.
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>>93741581
>This is some shoddy art.
The only thing shoddy here is whatever the process of "remastering" all these old comic pages into digital comics. This art was created by design to be printed on newsprint, not viewed on tablets in high resolution.
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I'm catching up on the old Brood storytime and now i'm mad cause i'll wanna keep posting about it.
skipping evolutionary war tho
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>>93731897
I've seen some Genoshan themed guro but thats about it
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>>93731876
Any money Marvel makes butchering classics in this manner is too much and should be punishable by law.
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>>93741916
The coloring doesn't help, but I was referring to the pencil work. It's very rushed and the characters are off model in each panel.
Give me Phil Jimenez any day. He's a perfect example of good pencil work.
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>>93742019
Oh god, that recoloring is terrible.
The pencil work still irk me with how rushed it looks.
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>>93732600
Ignoring the fact that Genosha didn't exist continuity-wise until around 1988, the standing reason why no one knew how the nation was a hellish slave state, is due to the fact that Genosha basically was a closed off nation akin to North Korea. Which is a major plot point in the original story, in that the nation was willing to kill the Gene Engineer's son and Maddie to keep them from ratting out what the nation does to mutants.
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>>93736660
Disbanding the team only works when you have a limited cast of "core characters" and everyone else either is in a spin-off book or not worthy of anything major story-wise except to be a brainwashed pawn.
X-Men got away with it because there was only one X-Book at the time.
On a side note; I really fucing wish they would have done something similar to Fall of the Mutants with Avengers Disassembled. Basically something happens and the traditional Avengers (Wanda, Vision, Thor, Hank Pym, Jan, Hawkeye, and Scott Lang) are presumed dead after a heroic sacrifice and but are still alive and well but having to pretend to be dead.
Hell, they could have even given them the Thunderbolts book too as their new home while Bendis did his bullshit JLA lite team, then slowly build up an Inferno-stye showdown between the two teams.
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>>93742402
>On a side note; I really fucing wish they would have done something similar to Fall of the Mutants with Avengers Disassembled. Basically something happens and the traditional Avengers (Wanda, Vision, Thor, Hank Pym, Jan, Hawkeye, and Scott Lang) are presumed dead after a heroic sacrifice and but are still alive and well but having to pretend to be dead.
>Hell, they could have even given them the Thunderbolts book too as their new home while Bendis did his bullshit JLA lite team, then slowly build up an Inferno-stye showdown between the two teams.
Hey Nick Spencer if you're testing the waters for a post-Secret Empire Steve Rogers books, YES T-bolts relaunch
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>>93742093
>The pencil work still irk me with how rushed it looks.
fair enough.(Although comparing a Jimenez funsie sketch to buzzer-beating deadline crunch Leonardi pages a bit less so...)
At any rate, I'll take rushed 80's Marvel art over the modern day equivalent any day of the week.
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>>93742514
Here's an example of Jimenez during crunch time.
The deadlines for New X-Men became increasingly detrimental to the comic. Jemas did that intentionally because he wanted Morrison out of Marvel Comics, all together.
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>>93742843
woof.
that's rough, buddy.
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