Spider-Man: Homecoming

Pretty much the best after credits sequence.

>>93712591
Lizard prison scene done right

>>93712591
> When he gets to Liz house and Toomes opens because he's her dad

For real I thought that he was going to kidnap her or some shit because they foreshadowed him realizing Spider-Man was in high school, but holy shit I didn't see that coming

>>93712591
When all the rubble is on Pete and he's crying out that got me a little bit. Loved the man in the chair stuff, Vulture was amazing.

>>93712730
I could actually feel the tension in that scene

>>93712730
shit, another thing from TASM this did better

It was good but no fucking way in hell is it 94% fresh good. Just like Wonderwoman I suspect massive employee vote up ratings.

>>93712911
>TASM this did better
>ASM doing anything better

No.

>>93713065
He means that this movie did that concept better

To hell with Michelle, I want Mary Jane

It's the best Spider-Man movie after 2. I can't possibly understand why so many people here are trashing it after liking hot garbage like Civil War (shakey cam and quips during every action scene) or Guardians of the Galaxy.

SM2>Homecoming>SM1>SM3>ASM1>ASM2

>>93713337
This is objectively the only correct ranking.

>>93712591
This is literally the perfect Spider-Man movie. I tried thinking of something objectively wrong with it, and I can't. It is so fucking good.

>>93713392
The soundtrack was generic MCU shit

>>93713337
This, but SM2=Homecoming

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You think Keaton will come back for another go? I really do want the Sinister Six made reality. If we have to do repeats, Im fine with Otto and Rhino being given another shot. Mysterio is a must though

>>93713406
I'll give you that, but that original spidey theme at the beginning was good shit

>>93713019
Go by the average rating section, not the tomatometer for what you are referring to.

>>93713019
The percent on Rotten Tomatoes just meant that 94% of the reviews were positive reviews, not a rating out of 100.

>>93713444
Will the Sinister Stick become the Rogues to Peter's Flash?

Every red quipster needs an honorable villain with a furry collar.

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>Karen is fucking hot and I can't explain why

Why was Karen hot. WHY.

>>93713480
They didn't even use it again after the fucking opening. It's the most hype track in literally the entire MCU and they used like 25 seconds of it.

>>93712591
>Having criticism is bait

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>>93713555

>>93713565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3zdFNGiLWY its so good

I claim Karen as my waifu

She is mine and no one else's

That after credits scene got me good.

>>93713578
The criticism on this board can be condensed to "REEEE NIGGER MARY JANE" "WHY DOES MARVEL HAVE A NIGGER FUCKING AGENDA" or "THIS ISNT A 94% MOVIE REEEE". That's literally all I've seen since this movie came out. I like coming to /co/ because people are generally level headed here, but this movie has sent people into a tizzy.

No, because The Rogues are just trying to make a buck while The Sinister Six fucking hate his guts and want Peter dead. Scorpion is already on board, Toomes might later resent Peter

Michelle was the worst thing in this fucking movie. A complete cunt with shit acting. It gives me the impression they tried to make her into a Daria-esque character but failed miserably.

>>93713645
meant to quote >>93713554

>>93712730
Man, the theatre was in an uproar.

It was a crystallization of the themes of Spider-man stories being a conflict between Peter and Spider-man's responsibilities.

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>all that shit she went through
>nothing to make up for it in the end
>probably hates Peter now
What are the chances this qt is gonna appear in the sequel?

PENIS
PARKER

>>93713337
>asm1 worse than sm3

Clearly you don't read comics.

Homecoming>ASM1>SM2>SM>ASM2>SM3

>>93713648
I thought she was funny. I liked when she flipped Peter off. It's obvious she's going to grow as a character throughout the movies.

>>93713679
If they wanted to make Mary Jane black, they should've chosen her and her story arc. Would've been a more interesting take on the character than the crap we got.

>>93713690
wow, I thought the "ASM films are good!" contrarians had all banished after SONY bended over to Marvel

SM2>SM1=Homecoming>SM3>ASM>ASM2

>>93713693
Considering her attitude, can we expect her to wear a t-shirt that says "Jet fuel can't melt steel memes?"

>>93713019
>It was good but no fucking way in hell is it 94% fresh good
That's not how it works you fucking retard. The movie could have been a 6.9 all across the table and still managed that score. I personally wouldn't call it a 7.7 either, but still.

>>93713690
>ASM1 better than SM2
I love both movies, but look at what you just typed and tell me you honestly think that's true.

Captain America parts were funny

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Any hope of this finally happening?

>>93712591
Best Spiderman movie
Does the best job of establishing the right mix of wimpy nerdiness but brave selflessness that the other ones couldn't do

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>Most of Ned
>Karen
>Happy

I haven't ever laughed this consistently at the jokes from a Marvel movie

>Liz
>Aunt Tomei
>That Karen voice
>Betty Brand
>Michelle too

Why haven't Peter balls exploded after being surrounded by such qts and only getting blue balled

>>93713790
2 had an excellent balance of that...

>>93713798
>I'm not obsessed with him, I'm just observant
>Hannibal waving when the Captain America video introduces the gym teacher
>Penis Parker
>intimidating voice

Kek'd at all that and more

>>93713881
Closer than the rest but I still couldn't really see past Tobey's wimpiness

>>93713406
>>93713480
I wish they actually just stuck with that as the main theme. I was really disappointed when the main track sounded like some generic Avengers music.

>>93713690
>Anything coming close to SM2
Homecoming came close

>>93713702
That what I was thinking
If they took out the names you'd guess she was Mary Jane
"Michelle" is a cunt regardless of who she's supposed to be

>>93713019
>I suspect massive employee vote up ratings.

Whenever you begin to feel like this, remind yourself that this isn't sane.

>>93713333
>I can't possibly understand why so many people here are trashing it

/co/ is reflexively contrarian.

>>93713645
Toomes just wanted to make a buck too. He was trying to provide for his family. Even at the end he clearly doesn't personally hate Peter.

>>93714023
Idg why people didn't complain about Kirsten Dunst's MJ. She treated Peter even worse than the Homecoming one did, and the Homecoming one is just joking 99% of the time.

>>93713782
Very unlikely. I think the Shocker we got in SM:HC is as close as we'll ever get. They even make fun of the name and costumes in general in the movie.

>>93714182
agreed, she was not a likeable character at all. I actually really liked homecoming, it felt like the characters were actually in hs too

>>93713972
It's okay to be wrong.

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>>93714023
And yet we're stuck with her, arent we?

>>93713676
And even though it was a genuine surprise, they did a good job in retrospect of foreshadowing it. Toomes was constantly talking about his family. I can't remember if he specifically mentioned a daughter, but I know he said he had a kid several times.

>>93714208
kirsten dunst's mj wasnt glamourous or flirtious party girl and never grew into a more interesting person or love interest. she was pretty bland and pretty mean for no reason. If anything, they'll grow this michelle character over the course of the trilogy if shes the new mj, and I dont see why they wouldnt make her likeable considering homecoming did pretty damn well regardless of how salty people on this board are

"I know what a girl sounds like"
"I'M A BOY"

>>93713718
This is a more reasonable scale, yes. Holland could have afforded to be a lot more insecure out of the Spidey Suit and thrown down a lot more, though.

>>93712591
I do have one minor complaint
Sometimes this shit gets too self-referential
Are girls seriously going to keep playing Fuck, Marry, Kill with the Avengers especially since it's been a while since they did anything THAT massive

They did address my concern about showing a video staring a fugitive and that was pretty awesome
I totally thought they would just skim over that

>>93714278
Uh...you think that if super heroes appeared in real life, they wouldn't be all everyone talked about 99% of the time, especially teens? That's pretty realistic

>>93714267
his reaction when he was under the rubble was great, though. I was surprised that they actually let him portray him so out of it, it felt real. it was a nice change. really reminds you of how bad garfields portrayal was

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I liked the new MJ but it was really obvious who she was from the very start. They dedicated way too much time to her for it to be subtle.
Which, yeah, Spider-Man films don't have to be subtle, but I seriously cannot believe Keaton said the words "you go around with that glove calling yourself... the SHOCKER."

Like seriously dude
Please

That's not even funny like IT'S YOU WHO'S OUT GOBBY, it's just bad writing
There was no part where Peter goes "what're you some kinda Vulture?" so why was there one for Shocker?

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So how is Bane going to be Venom if Flash was a kid in this movie? Is Venom not gonna be Flash?

>>93714344
theyre being treated as being in separate film universes

>>93714182
Yeah she was a stain on that movie
But whatever Michelle was backfired
I guess she supposed to be quirky but have MJ's firey attitude
Neither really act like Mary Jane

>>93714213
I also like the story Arc and fights in this one better
It seemed smaller than Spiderman 2 even though in the grand scheme it probably isn't

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>>93713798
>interrogation mode

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>this thread
Damn, and I thought "/co/ shills for mcu" was just a meme. This movie is barely even a Spider-Man movie.

>>93714278

i'm surprised that Evans appeared for that much. that was a nice "this is a shared universe" touch that you would expect in a comic.

I really like the movie, both main character and main villain played each other well, the humour was better than most of MCU, no out of place humour like Doctor Strange.

I do wish the action could've been better though, it was decent but weak compare to Raimi's trilogy

>>93714363
>Venom not in MCU


F U C K

>>93714344
The Sony one? Confirmed to be Eddie.

>>93714377
>it was decent but weak compare to Raimi's trilogy
I don't even like the ASM films, and I thought those had better action scenes than this one.

>>93714301
Right after the first Avengers thing sure
But it's been a while
If they was just talking about how cool Spiderman was and how no one knew who he was that would have been more believable

>>93714366

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5yJatEsA8Q

>>93714344

Of course not, since Agent Venom is actually a well developed and interesting character who would make a good movie, and Sony is in charge of the Venom movie so it's going to be dogshit, so they will not go with the good option and just make it about Eddie Brock again since that's the obvious option.

>>93714415
The action scenes were the only thing that the Amazing Spider-Man movies really did right.

>>93712734

that was some good acting and reminds you he's only 15, but also necessary to make him saving himself seem more badass

So seriously, why couldnt spiderman punch. Most other MCU heros can fight. What is Disneys deal?

I held in a lot of pee for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm1evWMkwVo

>>93714470
I ran to pee during the credits and the janitor guy tried to stop me from leaving because there was another scene

Then it was this

Also,
>Americans clapping at the movie theater

My only real complaint with this movie is that Miles exists.

>>93712730
The car ride scene after that was the most intense thing I've seen in a super hero movie in a long time.

>>93714423
Why are they so eager to make a venom movie?
They're never gonna be able to get Holland's Spiderman the symbiote

>>93714458
This didn't bother me until it got to the major fights with Shocker and Vulture. It was really obvious how badly he was trying to avoid in directly hitting them.

>>93714507
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that scene super scary.

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>>93713690
>ASM movies
>Good
Oh my god. I just rewatched them and they were fucking garbage. Even the first one. Fuck off.

>>93714497
Miles? Was I suppose to notice him? Was he that nerdy black kid on the Quiz team?

>>93714458
Probably because he has no training
Also it's easier to design fight sequences where he doesn't punch because can't he punch with tons of force? It would be over instantly

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I think Tom's real life best friend would unironically be a pretty good Harry Osborn. He's an actor too.

>>93714550
No
He's the nephew of Donald's Glover character

>>93714550
Donald Glover: "my nephew lives around here"

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Just got out the film. Is Zendaya supposed to be a composite of Michele & MJ? I instantly thought of Michele after she said the name & it made a lot of sense, but still confused the shit out of me that het nickname was 'MJ'. I know what they're going for but she acts more like Michele than Mary Jane.

>>93714550
Donald Glover played his uncle

>>93714576
>>93714579
>>93714586
>Part I went to the bathroom for

T-Thanks Bladder

>>93714580
Seems like it. She's technically a new character though, 'Michelle Johnson'.

I liked Organic webshooters more than web fluid

Am I in the minority

>>93714421
Stupid

>>93714597
I just hope Miles is an easter egg and nothing more. It wouldn't really make sense for him to appear anyway since the sequels will be focusing on each Peter's high school years

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>When Pepper appears

>>93714615
They wouldn't hire Gambino just for an easter egg, he's bound to show up eventually.

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>>93714507
>yfw the traffic light turns red

>>93713690
so fucking wrong

>>93713337
agreed, completely.

>>93714609
It makes a ton more sense to be honest
The web is why he's called Spiderman
But he didn't get it from the spider

>>93714609
So do I, honestly. But needs like webshooters more because "muh genius Peter characterization". DESU he should've just had the organic shooters in this movie because every single technological thing in this movie wasn't made by Peter except for the web fluid he made by mixing...two chemicals

>>93714641
I don't know how unpopular an opinion this is, but Donald Glover is only ever just 'okay'. I don't know why everyone clamors for him to be cast in films.

>>93714615
You realize Tom Holland won't be playing Spider-Man forever right? And rebooting with an entirely new character is going to put asses in seats when it finally happens instead of rebooting again with Peter Parker

>>93714689
He's only 21 right now. They could conceivably keep him in the role for decades, he loves the character.
Honestly, Peter dying is just so depressing to think about

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>>93714662
>the traffic light turns into green
>implying bingo

>>93714670
Why does everyone have to be a technological genius anyways?

>>93714638
She was looking so damn good in that scene honestly, like more gorgeous than she's ever looked in any of the other movies. Maybe those healing stickers and pussy rocks actually work

>>93713648
i agree she was daria-esque i think that was the point. she was the loser non-conformist anti-pretty girl, who would be pretty but she's too angsty to enjoy shit. but she secretly crushes on peter and is the way she is because they're 16 and just want to be alt./punk/goth/whatever

but i think she did it in a charming way, where it felt more real than just being a movie mall goth that's all cutesy. she actually seemed spunky.

>>93714638
Should they even have broken them up when in universe they get engaged just a few months later? Paltrow returning at some point wasn't a super unlikely possibility or anything

How did Tony make a fully functional suit that could create different combinations of weebs without knowing what Peter could do?

>>93714599
But I keep hearing, Mary Jane this Mary Jane that without hearing the fact she acts like Michele & that they might indeed be composite characters or something. I hope to god Marvel does jump on this & say that's MJ's real name...

Haven't seen the movie yet. Does Peter lose the AI at any point? Ties the character too closely to Iron Man for me.

>>93714743

what does green have to do with bingo? it's to remind you of his green nightvision in his suit

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>Avengers took place in 2012
>Homecoming takes place "8 years later"
>that means Homecoming is set in fucking 2020

someone explain this

>>93714366
He should have opened with WHERE ARE THEY

>>93714445
Car jacking scene was better in ASM

>>93714726

I read an interview with Tom where he said he "has an idea that would mean I'm playing the character in a decades time", so I think he'd like to at least come back as an adult Peter or something when we're on our 15th Spidey movie.

>>93714803
If I got this right
The first Iron Man was in 2008
Second in 2009
Avengers in 2010
So that makes this 2018

>>93713702
well liz was before gwen stacy and then mary jane is the final objective.
i'm going to guess that's what they're aiming for. so i don't think she'll appear again. played off more like a hs crush than all time true love. which i think is better, than trying to marry them off since 16 years old.

if they wait until college to bring in mj, that would be more interesting.

>>93714023
i got to say i don't get the hate, she was fine and she's not mary jane. i think it's a place holder. she didn't even have a big role. she wasn't a cunt, she was being an edgy kid and everyone knew she was harmless and playing around. that's why they where her friends and they chose her as team leader.

>>93714782
Yes. The last third of the movie is Peter using his homemade suit.

>>93714803
They want to set the sequels in Peter's junior and senior years. Setting it in 2020 means that the timeline isn't strained by having each movie set two years apart - it wouldn't make sense for Peter to be in high school for so long. Setting it in the future allows for them to do modern references to future movies and pop culture references that are relevant to whatever year the next movies come out in and not being stuck in 2017 and 2018.

>>93714782
Yes.

But I loved her.

>>93714844
If that's the case, what will Miles be called? He has no reason to adopt the Spider-Man name.

>>93714853
>>93714876
Does he lose the AI permanently or is it pretty much just assumed it'll be back in the sequels?

>>93712591
>it's extremely good.
this is the same meme after every MCU movie
Like i think , the movie was forgettable garbage , as always like every MCU movie post WS.

>>93712591
It was good, but the first two Raimi movies are still better

>>93714898
It'll be back. He gets his high tech suit taken away by Iron Man and he gets it back at the end. Unlike Jarvis, Karen is cute and funny.

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>>93712730
>That entire awkward moment when Peter is just constantly staring at Liz's dad instead of Liz in her dress
>The entire car ride to the school
>When the stop light indicated he finally figure out why Peter seemed so familiar

>>93714667
He'd have to shoot them from his butt

>>93714638

That made me unreasonably happy, Tony was so JUSTed in Civil War in-part from the break up, then Happy reminds us we've been following this relationship since fucking 2008 and getting engaged just to save face at a press conference is such a fitting conclusion to it.

>>93714764

Last week she actually announced she's retiring from acting (to advise women on odd things to put up their vaginas full-time) so I thought we'd never see Pepper again and it'd end on a sour note.

>>93714900
Homecoming is the only MCU movie I'd call good other than Iron Man 1

>>93714336
well the guy was calling himself that, the point wasn't to make fun of the name (in the movie), vultures point was stop wearing a costume AND giving yourself a name, AND shooting space guns, we're supposed to be low key. vulture wasn't anti naming yourself, using costumes, or using tech, he was anti acting like an idiot.

>>93712734
I got really excited when I realized they were doing If This Be My Destiny.

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>>93714943
>Implying Tom Holland doesn't already shoot 'web' from his butt

>>93714945
>Advising woman to put odd things in their vagina

W-What

>>93712730
"Does she know?"

>>93712730

a little girl in my theater screamed "THE FLYING MAN, NO!!!" at that reveal since every time the Vulture suit was on-screen she was getting scared

>>93714344
because eddie brock?

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>>93714638
>"I've been holding on to this since 2008"

>>93714973
She's a new age wacko who sells jade eggs for vaginal insertion claiming health benefits. Doctors point out jade is a porous stone meaning bacteria can get inside it so it's really unhygienic.

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I thought it was alright. Good as a Spider-Man movie, would be better with less MCU shit.

what happened to pic related?

>>93715032
Goddamn

>>93714576
>>93714579
so miles is related to prowler?

>>93715042
In the Ultimate universe

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>>93714973

https://nextshark.com/gwyneth-paltrow-dildo-golden-lelo/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/gwyneth-paltrow-defends-vagina-steaming-advice-a7145026.html

>>93715063
>Vagina
>Steaming

But why

>>93712591
I'm confused about that Miles reference
>Spider-Man/Peter Parker/Tom Holland can be the face of the MCU for years
>He's probably picking up Iron Man's slack as RDJ ages, making a legacy character a harder sell
>Killing off Peter would not go over well with family audiences, especially young kids
How are they going to include him in the MCU?

>>93715037

got arrested for trashing school buses presumably, however that means there's another guy in prison who knows who Peter is but isn't as based as Toomes

>>93715098
I meant the costume. Were they fake?

>>93715097
he can just be a side-kick if they expand on the spider-family, doesn't have to take-over for him

>>93715097
Peter becomes a tech giant like Slott made him, he's off globetrotting while Miles stays in NY as the new Spider-Man.

>>93715098
Shocker probably wasn't told Peter's name, but knowing his face and where he goes to school is a pretty big clue.

>>93714769
assuming when since he has wireless control over the suit, he can upgrade the a.i. then once he saw the kid in civil war he added a bunch without telling him. he probably ran a simulation of possible web combinations just thinking ahead. they don't all seem useful as peter showed. some just splatter all twisty.

>>93713881

Spider-Man 2 was a cuckfest, and RAINDROPS FALLING ON MY HEAD didn't make Peter wimpy, just made him look like a doofus.

>>93714858

So does that mean that nothing important has happened between Civil War (2016) and Homecoming (2020) and all future MCU movies are set in the near-future until they catch-up in 2023?

Did anyone else think "Karen" was secretly an actual person voice-connected to Spidey's suit in a weird Madame Web type surveillance measure?

>>93712591
KEaton would have made a great Norman Osborne.

>>93715194
He really would have. I'm interested in seeing who they eventually pick because Willem Defoe was great

>>93715056
oh yeah, i completely forgot. evil uncle story.

i was thinking 616 prowler. which i was hoping glover would do.

>>93715194
Sure but we've had Osbornes in both the last two Spidey franchises and a wealth of rich asshole villains in the MCU.

Vulture was the best call. He's a relatively low-class weapons dealer and a literal scavenger. It's thematic.

First Amazing Spider-Man is a decent movie.

Second Amazing Spider-Man is a fucking train wreck.

>>93715125
What will he be called? Kid Arachnid?

So who's gonna get gay shipped with Pete?

>>93714231
He did mention having a daughter.

>>93715179
The timeline is still being figured out as far as fans are concerned. Civil War took place in 2020 too.

>>93715246
I think that's what they called him in Disney's Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon.

>>93714609
I'm here for you bro.
I like it because it conceptually makes him more alien and spidery. I mean, they already gave him the strenght and the climbing abilities, why stop?

>>93715179
well doctor strange happened, but he's in other parts of the world and universes. agents of shield ghost rider? and the hand is doing shit in netflix stuff.

i'd guess ant-man is going to fall in there somewhere in the middle too.

but thor and hulk are in space, black panther in africa, and idk cap and team are doing

>>93715252
He already has a real life gay ship >>93714565

>didn't fuck his daughter as revenge
>didn't tell the niggers out side about Spiderman

but why?

>>93715192
>yes.jpg

>>93713337
ooooooohhh, so close anon, all you had to do is switch ASM1 with SM3 and you would've been 100%right

fuck you guys I liked asm1

>>93715294
Avengers 2 probably took place in 2015 too or close to it. Then the Sokovia Accords probably took a few years to iron out.

>>93715294
Dr. Strange takes place slightly after Civil War and there's a timeskip at the end.

I think they're bumping the story forward to 2020 because Avengers 3 and 4 are going to take place in a short space of time and by the time it's all over it'll be 2020 IRL.

>>93715316

Peter saved his life.

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Post yfw Blitzkrieg Bop starts playing

>>93715329
sounds right, it's hard to tell... but yeah.

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What are the chances my favorite Spidey villain shows up in the sequel?

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>>93715360
It kinda irritated me honestly. I mean it fit and all, but fuck dude, don't use the exact same "woo i'm a young person doing young person things" music as the original fucking Jimmy Neutron movie.

>The behind the scenes stories and photos about the young cast of this movie
I'm feeling lonely lads, how do I become friends with them all? ;_;

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>>93715360
Bad

>>93715192
>thirsty 15 year old boy didn't have phonesex with his personal AI he just discovered as they're locked in a vault all night as she rhythmically contracts and heats his crotch to give him a cyber-lapdance

unrealistic

>>93714772
I honeslty think shes a combination of Michele Gonzalez and Mary Jane.

>>93715326
I liked it too but looking back most it had going for it was Gwen and Spider-man himself.

I went with incredibly low expectations and left pleasantly surprised.
First half/2 thirds are the same Marvel schtick, it's competent and fun but it could be much better, there's too many quips, villain is underdeveloped, movie is too light, etc... The usual 6/10
And then the nigga lost the costume.
And then the movie decided it wanted to be good.
And then we had stakes and drama and a legit good twist that was not only good because of the surprise, but also because it served to develop two characters at once.
And then there's that wonderfully executed prom scene.
And then there's that 10/10 scene with him getting out of the rubble, which I'm surprised anti-DC drones aren't complaining that it's too dark.
And then holy shit a final fight where the hero is out of his element and pushed to his limits and there's no time for quips it's because serious business? Holy shit is this a Marvel movie where the third act is the strongest? What the fuck is going on?
7.5/10 pretty solid shit.
Raimi is still king, new MJ is the worst fucking character, like holy shit you cannot have an uglier basic personality. Still pissed that Uncle Ben is barely fucking mentioned and has been replaced by Stark, a bit weirded out by how Iron Man-ish the spiderman costume is.

Also, Low key funniest moments?
>Dude, I got ice cream here
>anything related to the school news

Finally, I just want to say that I honestly love the Peter-Vulture relationship of mutual respect and hatred, it's a sad thing that it'll never be followed up because this is mahvel studios and continuity isn't as solid as you want it to be.

>>93715385
Hey fuck you the ramones are timeless

also don't forget Panhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4_thAN-Bv4

>>93715373
He's getting his own solo movie instead, apparently.

>>93715365
Phase 1 at least is pretty easy to figure out
>Iron Man is set in 2008 for sure
>The Avengers is set in 2012 for sure
>Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, and Captain America probably take place in 2010 since they're required to be before the Avengers
Phase 2 is where things start getting stretched out and a bit confusing

>>93715237
>lizards evil plan is to turn everyone into lizards
>decent movie

>>93715360
I like it but the entire scene where the kids were partying in Jimmy Neutron was going on through my head.

>>93712591
I've said this before and I'll say it again. I really really liked it but I felt it lacked the emotional weight and sadness that Uncle Ben would have brought.

>>93715212

They should literally just get Willem Defoe back, especially if they're ever going to adapt the Dark Reign arc.

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>>93715373
Its a damn crime he hasnt shown up already. The guy is dripping with movie potential and creativity. If you ask me, hes the perfect guy to break Toomes, Shultz, and Gargan out of prison

>>93715385
Jimmy Neutron's problem was using music that was from the same time as when it came out. It had things like Aaron Carter which aged terribly and didn't start out good to begin with. Blitzkrieg Bop at least is decades old and doesn't date the movie.

>>93714986
in the theater I went to a kid started dancing aggressively to the credits while staring and standing towards the upper rows

>>93715456
>Willem Defoe as Iron Patriot
nigga...

>>93715448
Good, it shouldn't have been sad, it's meant to have the tone of a John Hughes highschool movie. Although it was still a feel when he said "I can't tell Aunt May, not after all she's just been through" if you caught what he was referring to.

>>93715427
I'll believe that when I see it. And if Sony does get the greenlight to do him and Kraven as solos, thats fucking stupid. I want to see Mysterio fuck with Spider Man, not 2 hours of a villain setup

>>93715429
old /co/ would make cool charts for us to follow with dates and connection lines.

>>93715417
Okay yeah pretty much this, but that dynamic was hilariously ruined in ASM2

>>93714609
i grew up with the web shooters so i like that more. i think it adds dramatic tension because the webs aren't limited and can run out. you have to be creative in those situations. i also like that it's a piece of tech peter made. i dunno, i'm just a purist like that

>>93713753
PATIENCE

>>93715373
Maybe
I don't know if he's a good villain for a movie

>>93715212
The CW early concept art had Brian Cranston as Osborn. Isn't Tony selling the Avengers tower?

>>93715520

Too be fair Vulture didn't sound like a great villain for a first Spidey reboot flick, either.

>>93715504
let's figure it out /co/

>>93715487
>Aaron Carter
>Aged Terribly
Go Jimmy Jimmy and Leave it up to me still hold up pretty well.At least to me.
Though I'll say the CGI in the Leave it up to me music video has aged terribly

>>93715448
It worked better without it
The others went too heavy on that

>>93714803
Iron Man is 2008. IM2 is like 6 months later which takes place over a single week. Thor and Hulk happen the same week as IM2 (Thor in the middle, Hulk towards the end). Cap is unfrozen after IM2, but still within months of IM2. Avengers takes place shortly after Cap is unfrozen which could roughly be late 2008/early2009.

8 years pass bringing us up Civil War last year, 2 months after that is Spidey Homecoming.

While the movies on/off on being in "real time", only the TV shows seem to actually try to keep up with it the most.

Since we don't exactly know when Doc Strange takes place, one could believe Doc Strange is the latest in the time stream movie-wise (taking place after Homecoming) while SHIELD is the latest in the time stream overall.

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>>93715438

>>93715503
not same anon, but agreed. sony is retarded and should just let marvel do their thing and rake in money without doing anything. them trying to control shit is fucking up the characters.

if it was up to what's her cunt, andrew would still be spider-man for some reason with a different supporting cast.

>>93714609
I like both but webshooters more.
like most arguments go it show he's fairly smart and like in the movie someone else can use them as well

>>93714336
>"What are you some kind of suicide squad?"

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>>93715497
>that scene where he looks up all the non-white superheroes real names as soon as he gets access to the Sokovia accords database while muttering "first it starts with identification..."

I mean I'm glad they brought Raimi back for a Marvel movie but damn

Who was the brown guy in the 1st credit scene? Anyone important or was it just a show of the Vulture keeping Peter's identity secret?

>>93715501
Im so overwhelmingly happy this movie didn't get Uncle Ben'd
how many times do I have to see that man die

>>93715561
Doctor Strange happens a long time before Winter Soldier, doesn't it?

>>93715588
Mac Gargan, AKA Scorpion.

>>93715252
Ned
Flash
That Jewish background kid on the AcDec team
That asian who was in chess club and the bathroom
Happy
Tony

>>93715531
The Vulture's suit is like Peter's webshooters
It helps him in physical combat
Mysterio's different

>>93715588
Well he did have a big scorpion tat on his neck.

>>93714667
he's called spider-man because he got his powers through a spider bite, can stick to walls and has the proportional strength of a spider.

>>93715561
The Avengers is definitely dated as 2012, it's been shown in various movies

>>93715579
The Mysterio and Kraven solos were never greenlit correct? Perhaps Homecoming's performance will lead to another shift in power in terms of what Marvel Studios can do and what SONY cant. Fingers crossed. I mean I can take Venom, Black Cat, and Silver Sable being separate/non-canon, but I draw the line at those two. I mean these are the same people who said an Aunt May movie was happening, so their word is shit, especially Pascal's

>>93715613
>>93715619
Peter's suit calls him out by name when he's on the Ferry. That's where he got arrested.

>>93715588
bro really?
scorpion, they said his name and he had neck tattoo, and he was in a fight earlier with spider-man.

>>93715613
>>93715619
Thanks, I don't really read Marvel so I wouldn't know

I got really excited over the Final Chapter scene.

>>93714763
agreed. i'm interested in where they take her character. you know there's going to be character growth. it'd be interesting if they do the trope of frumpy quirky girl blossoming and turning super hot, but then losing herself, and maybe peter lets her re-find herself. a lot of possibilities. I also don't think she's MJ as in Mary Jane. i mean her first name's michelle. i think it's an amalgamation/interpretation of many characters and new characters combined. Maybe her last name is... Jameson.

>>93714803
sliding time line?

>>93715607
We were told the injured soldier mentioned before the car crash was neither Rhodey (CW) or the Hammer employee (IM2), but someone else which is not explained so far.

There is a trophy Strange looks at that is recent and gives a date, but I only saw the movie like 2 times when it came out and not since. I do remember the whole movie takes place over several months, but that's it. We were basically told by Feige/the director that it's after CW, but before Ragnarok.

>>93715596
Until you see it as often as Peter.

>>93715561
>>Since we don't exactly know when Doc Strange takes place
IIRC Avengers Tower is in the movie as well as reference to other countries trying to make their own Iron Man Suits. Plus the after credits scene has that hint towards Thor:Ragnarok.
Looking it up on TV tropes, there was a parently a reference to Dr.Strange calling him a "Superhuman threat"

There's also apparently references to the Netflix series

>>93715662
It's Jones

>>93715622
I think Spiderman is stronger than a spider though

>>93715691
>There's also apparently references to the Netflix series
does anybody have anymore info on this?

>>93713480
>>93713565
I though it was going to play in the rubble scene, with that music and without Tony's voice it would've been a 10/10 scene

>>93715691
>Looking it up on TV tropes, there was a parently a reference to Dr.Strange calling him a "Superhuman threat"

In Winter Soldier he's mentioned as someone who might be a target of Zola's algorithm but that's not necessarily because he was a sorceror at that point. Lots of civilians were targets as well and Strange was pretty high-profile for a surgeon.

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So how exactly would you make Mysterio work in this universe? Theres being a master of special effects, and then theres the shit Mysterio can pull off. More Chitauri tech? Would he use robots?

>>93714667
male spiders dont shoot webs

>>93715721
>In Winter Soldier he's mentioned as someone who might be a target of Zola's algorithm but that's not necessarily because he was a sorceror at that point. Lots of civilians were targets as well and Strange was pretty high-profile for a surgeon.

Does this mean the algorithm was good enough to predict Strange would become a threat in the future?

>>93715385
>he doesn't know it was a reference to the ramones doing a fairly famous cover of the '60s spider-man theme and are pretty big spidey fans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5P8lrgBtcU

(actually now that i think about it they should've just used their cover... oh well)

>>93714231
When the goons went to the school to search for their rock they mentioned how the boss would had been surprised where they were(cause they knew about the daughter)

>>93715637
why would any of them have their own movies? it's just sony not owning any character's and thinking they can have their own spider-universe, to compete with the entire marvel roster. but it doesn't work because none of them are important in that level. like why would you want to watch a silver sable movie? it would just be a generic milla jovovich/scarlet johansson girl action movie. it just screams failure.

people really want a venom movie, and i don't get it. if there's no spider-man connection it might be terrible. it would be some random powered guy with a symbioses. for all sony cares it could be infamous video game adaption.

Am I the only one who wants to believe that the whole avenger tower moving was slightly prepping for the introduction for the MCU version of Fantastic 4?

Sony's movie division isn't doing so hot. Their team-up with Marvel is probably making them way more money than their in-house projects.

I think they're prepping for a buyout (not necessarily to Disney) and trying to inflate their value by pretending they've got all these big money-making ideas in the pipeline.

>>93713589
Well that's just not fair.

How the fuck does- oh yeah voice coaching.

>>93715800
Are you Reed? Because that's quite the stretch.

>>93715764
They might have wanted him gone for some other reason, probably related to his surgical abilities.

>>93715800
I thought the same damn thing.

>>93715764
that was the entire point of the algorithm, to figure out who has super potential. not just political threats, hydra was worried about super hero threats.

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>>93714970
HOLD THE FUCK UP

The movie opens with Keaton/vulture's team rummaging through the rubble from the aftermath of the avengers New York fight. Avengers was released in 2012. Then the time skip said 8 years later when the movie jumps to present day. Can someone explain this?

Depending on how the Miles animated movie performs, what do you think his future will be in the MCU?

>>93715781
Well apparently the Venom and Black Cat movies are happening, no question there. The best thing people can do is make it clear to SONY that having either Kraven or Mysterio standalone is a fucking retarded idea

>>93715867
who said avengers takes place in universe in 2012?

>>93715867
The movie takes place in 2020
The Peter in this universe was born after the first Raimi film

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>>93715638
fuck I didn't even notice that......

>>93715412
That is also what I believe & I hope people catch on.

>>93715878
Nonexistent. Peter is too young, Marvel doesnt want to confuse the fuck out of the audience with 2 Spider Men with the same name, and Miles' fanbase is practically nonexistent. Id sooner believe Prowler, or hell the very slim chance fucking Daredevil showing up in a future installment

>>93715891
Who says it doesn't?

>>93713249
That IS mary jane

>>93715916
Prowler showed up and mentioned his nephew in this movie, anon

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>>93715818

I hope so, the idea of them making a Venom or Black Cat movie is horrible never mind all their autistic ideas of a movie about Aunt May as a spy in the cold war or a Tobey Maguire vs Andrew Garfield movie, they just need to give up and let Marvel handle all the creative decisions for all their characters so they can be fully in the MCU while still retaining half the merchandising rights or whatever jew shit

>>93715884
>>93715884
hopefully marvel steps in and says no we're using them in spider-man 2, and then they calm their tits, salivating over the promise of an actual profit. i could easily let black cat and silver sable go, but venom is a hard bummer to lose over their bullshit.

>>93715764
Not that he would become a wizard but as part of the creme de creme in as an influential person, they perceived his personality would oppose hydra

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>>93715943
NO SHE IS NOT

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So where are we on the Sinister Six exactly? Scorpion is pretty much a lock, who else is a safe bet?

>>93715951
Now that they have three actors who've played Spider-Man, a Spider-verse film would make a lot of money

>>93715948
I meant actually suiting up

>>93712591
>it's extremely go
of course, especially the part when he is recording everything from his secret identity to his relation with stark, that way the viewer can notice that he is retarded, and trendy.

>>93715725

honestly how i'd do mysterio is to make him a guy who's obsessed with putting on a good show, and make his actions a meta commentary of superhero movies in general and then subvert the shit out of them by having mysterio set things up to make himself the good guy in various scenarios.

it'd a) do the whole "spidey hunted by the cops" thing i love, b) allow the movie to break out of the template consciously, and c) i kind of want mysterio to just be a dude who doesn't particularly hate spidey but wants to make something cool (if soulless) happen. the relationships peter develops in the film are the missing element in mysterio's plot, and the climax of the movie is just him and spidey talking it out.

How do we delete Miles and keep him from appearing in a mainstream movie, anons?

>>93715951
they basically just get money for letting marvel use their own character because they won't release the rights.

so they can basically make free money if they sit back and let marvel take over. but that pasqual cunt is too egotistical to let it happen. (i read the emails it was cringe as fuck)

they're being greedy as fuck thinking they can profit without marvel by doing their own movies, because they think they're "competent" even though their movies fail.

>>93716014
The animated movie would have to flop

>>93714615
I took it to mean that Miles is probably a little kid or a toddler right now. Clearly the intent is there to someday have him take over for Tom Holland, but not until he's tired of playing the part.

Based Uncle Tony got us that 94%! Iron Man 4 kicked ass!

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>>93715456
>>93715497
>>93715587
>Willem Defoe as Iron Patriot wrangling a Dark Avengers made up of Abomination, Justin Hammer with his own comically over-armed suit, that surviving redhead Extremis chick, Mordo, Elektra, Nuke, Diamondback and Absorbing Man

an autist can dream

>>93715975
i'm guessing no electro because of last time. so maybe shocker and kraven?

>>93716034
Which is hopefully never

>>93716011
Yeah but I mean actually pulling off illusions. Moreover, how is he actually going to fight Peter in a movie?

Anyone got a webm of the rubble scene everyone's talking about?

>>93715725
We already have phasing through feet of steel level alien tech.

Have some crazy special effects master have stuff like 3d holograms, maybe something interfacing straight with targets' neural synapses to make them see stuff that ain't there, plus maybe give him some limited teleportation, and then for the finale, solid light constructs.

>>93716038

I was pleasantly surprised that they got all the Iron Man suit shit out of the way before the finale, I assumed he would only be meeting Tony out of his suit and then he'd suit-up to save the day at the end thus stealing Peter's thunder

>>93716059
>the rubble scene
Come on anon. Don't make me feel

Fuck, Marry, Kill: Tobey, Andrew, Tom. Go.
>Andrew
>Tom
>Tobey

>>93716059
no, but it was pretty cool. You need the audio to do it justice.

>>93716065
>maybe something interfacing straight with targets' neural synapses to make them see stuff that ain't there

with that you could make people feel as if they're experiencing whatever you want, and to the outside observer they'd just be flopping about screaming about a monster attacking them, interesting/scary idea

>>93716073
>feel
I felt during that too, a great sense of amusement. It was such a laugh.

>>93713680
>Peter's dad name is Richard
>Nickname for Richard is Dick
Huh....

The whole suit sentiment kinda rung hollow to me.

I genuinely got emotional during the lifting scene, but at the end of the day it doesn't work as well because Peter has super strength and speed and wall crawling (and whatever other Spider powers they decide to make canon to MCU) without the suit. Like that sort of plot/theme makes sense for Cap showing that he already is Cap even without the muscles, or for Tony to show that he's still able to be a superhero even without his suit, but for Peter he was already a hero without the suit. It's not like he's portrayed as non-heroic in the film. He fucked up sure but it's not like that was a problem caused by the suit you could argue that access to the Tech was enabling him but that's still a problem of his innate recklessness. The "you don't need a suit to be a superhero" is kinda hollow when 1) you already were for 6+months and 2) you're powers aren't tied to it 3) you get it back like a reward.
It just kinda felt like "You need to include the lifting thing it's so Spider-man!". If anything the real Spider-man moment to me was him walking out of Prom. That's real Peter right there he will let his personal life go to shit to save people.

Basically I'm not sure what it was trying to say
>You don't need it to be a hero
Okay but we knew that, and it's kinda weird if Pete didn't

>You gotta do things on your own
He already did, and it's not like lifting the thing would have been helped by the suit. You can say "well it would have called Iron-man and he would have saved him etc.." but didn't Tony get mad at him exactly for overstepping

Did the movie have any good ass shots like in The Amazing Spider-Man?

>>93715975
>Shocker
>Vulture
>Scorpion

probably no/let's give it more time:
>Rhino
>Electro
>Lizard

would be cool but done before:
>Ock
>Sandman
>Goblins

Maybes:
>Mysterio
>Kraven


...I want Lady Beetle

>>93716096
But isnt that treading into Scarecrow territory? Mysterios illusions are meant to look real to everyone without the use of drugs

>>93716089
>Liz, Betty and the other girls playing Fuck Marry Kill during Gym

>>93716072
Peter was stealing Tony's thunder with his faggoty Spider Knock off version of the Iron Man suits.

How many times was Tom shirtless?

>>93716014
He'll appear in 15-20 years. We already have some seeds of the future.

i.e. Cassie Lang, Wanda x Vision, Clint's family (re-skinned Kate).

>>93715884
Hopefully they end up in the same hole as Gambit. Only Venom has the slightlest potential.

>>93716054

his illusions can just be from tech or whatever, it's all basically magic anyway and they can just say he's the best movie tech in the world or some shit.

but to answer your question: he wouldn't fight peter. it'd all be illusions. in fact, i think it'd be kind of cool to have no violence involving one human and another in the entire movie. OR, maybe that's what mysterio is explicitly trying to avoid (because he's not really a bad guy for the purposes of this idea), but he fucks up and peter has to save his bacon.

i guess my point is that mysterio could make for a really interesting/different kind of superhero movie because of his powers and his motivations.

>>93716114
Would Vulture really Join? That last bit with him in Homecoming makes it seem like he has no quarrel with Peter at this point.

>>93716108

Well unlike most other incarnations the suit he has in the movie is actually ridiculously OP, he has an AI that tells him what to do and can automate 146 or whatever different gadgets for him, I'd be bitching if they had him relying on it the whole time, since then it'd be more like Karen is the real hero.

>>93716044
>Nuke as "Cap"

shit I want to see this.

By the time the Carol movie rolls around, we might already have a Karla as a side-character/tease anyway.

So Vulture ain't no snitch but doesn't Black shocker know that Penis is spiderman or atleast the highschool he attends

>>93715781
Because Amy Pascal is a fucking idiot, that's why.

>>93716172

It would probably only take a little prodding, e.g. if Liz died and Spidey didn't save her in Gwen Stacy fashion he'd probably go off the deep end.

So Holland's the new RDJ for the next wave of movies after Avengers 4?

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>>93716114
I know she's not OG Sinister 6, but god damn I'd be so happy if they let Joystick have her chance to shine! She deserves a chance!

>>93716172
I think he being force to join to protect his family

>>93716096
>>93716124
I kinda like the fucking with neural synapses effect because it would be so undetectable by tech like suit AI and maybe even Vision.

>>93716171
He is a movie monster maker, he would make dinosaur animatronics that would attack spidey

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did anyone else's theater get the redband trailer for that ryan reynolds and samuel l jackson movie?

I bet a lot of parents got mad about that

>>93715867
seriously, 5minutes of the fucking movie and they shit the bed ths bad.. 5 fucking minutes.
also
http://boards.4chan.org/co/thread
>93716003
dude, secret identities in the marvel universe are just like legs in civil war.... overrated. ask Rhodey

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>>93716172
Perhaps either his family will be used as leverage or maybe Toomes will lose the right to see his family and then go off the deep end
>>93716188
Is Shultz even coming back? Granted hes an easy S6 member to fill but it didnt seem like they were all that concerned with him hanging around. Hell they killed the first one

>>93716231

i think that could be fun too.

>>93716172
It doesn't need to be formed for Spidey-revenge in the first place, maybe just a major score. And then Spidey foils them the first few times and then the group slowly turns into a "let's fuck spidey up" thign.

>>93716183
I was really waiting for "Battle Protocols Initiated" and then we see the fucking Iron Spider legs pop out for a second or two before Pete screams "WTF are those, turn it off!"

>>93716231
Mysterio better do some crazy shit like make Spider-Man think that he's been shrunk and stuck in a little tiny carnival or something. That would be cool!

>>93716044
>that surviving redhead Extremis chick

didn't Tony blow her the fuck out with the ol' gas-leak/microwave gag?

>>93716183
Yeah but that's just kinda it isn't it. The suit is taken away because it made him too strong, but like what thematically was it trying to say. Cause saying rely on your own power doesn't make too much sense when he takes the suit back. Don't forget he didn't build it, that's all Tony. And in the specific situation where he recalls the Tony talking about the suit, we aren't given an indication the suit could have helped him beyond calling for help.
Which sure is lame and anti-climactic, but also exactly what he should be doing since he does actually try to call Tony prior to arriving.

>>93715063
>Rescue Never
Shit

>>93716294

there was a ben reilly comic where he did almost exactly that and it owned

>>93716258
IIRC I got, Wonder Trailer, Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Trailer, Justice League trailer, Dark Tower, Pitch Perfect 3 and Daddy's Home 2 trailer.

>>93716270
because the first one is a random actor to fill the spot, that black guy actually has some movie credits. granted he's like c level, but he's somebody.

>>93712591
fucking loser, i just downloaded the camrip from torrent and is crystal clear. Paying for this dumb shit. fucking dumbasses

>>93716327
Oh shit, now I wanna read that, any idea what Spider-Man title it was?

>>93716258

For some reason my local cinema doesn't show any trailers or ads if you go in the morning, it's great.

>>93716368

https://www.comics.org/issue/83384/cover/4/

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>>93716299

I was thinking of Charlotte from L O S T

>>93716319
>Pepper didn't get to keep her powers from the end of IM3 and become an Avenger

boo! sexism!

Would it have been better if Marvel had the rights from the beginning and made it before Avengers (alongside all the other phase one films) or was it good exactly because of the hype and budget and expectations Marvel's been working with because of the success Avengers had?

>>93716395
thanks!

>>93713444
I want keaton back so fucking bad, he was a highlight of the whole film for me

sinister six will hopefully look like this:
Outright on the screen:
>Vulture
>Shocker
> Scorpion

Major Villains not done before:
>Kraven
>Mysterio

And barely shown, probably can get away with using him again :
>Rhino just not in a fucking mech suit again please

>>93716448
If Marvel had Spider-Man from the start there's a very good chance they never would have dug into their roster and made household names of characters normies hadn't heard of before.

Not having the Spidey and X-Men properties has been a boon to the MCU.

>>93714336
Actually Peter called Toomes a vulture in the note he left for Happy alongside the webbed up Adrian and the stuff he stole.

>Tony's grudging respect for Cap
>telling Peter "if he wanted to lay you out, he would have"

>>93716358
i enjoyed seeing it in the big screen at the theater. it was only 4.50

>>93716534
>Tony's grudging respect for Cap
>telling Peter "if he wanted to rape you, he would have"

>>93716435
Iron Man 3 doesn't exist anymore

I loved everything about Captain America in this movie

Doing PSA's for school kids was perfect for him

>>93714336
>There was no part where Peter goes "what're you some kinda Vulture?" so why was there one for Shocker?

stop sleeping in the cinema you moron

>>93716589
>I'm pretty sure did dude a war criminal now but I gotta show you this still, state regulations

maximum kek

>>93716544
Wow, 4.50? it cost me only a doubleclick. HA

>>93716508
Yeah, I'm aware, but imagine if they came to the same deal with Sony in 2011 instead of now, I feel they would've flubbed it thinking it's a sure thing the same way Sony did with TASM.

>>93716358
Jokes on you dude, ill wait for the korean webrip, mut be up on sunday.

>>93716510
>>93716602
That's not quite the same. A note calling him "that vulture guy" isn't the same as Keaton literally saying "you go around calling yourself the shocker."
That note is in character and it's not overstated, it's Peter saying "I don't know what to call this guy so he's just the vulture guy I guess."
Whereas there's literally a guy who calls himself The Shocker and there's a scene where a major character explains to the camera that said guy calls himself The Shocker.

>so we're some kinda... suicide squad, huh?