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Laser sword edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
Star Wars #33 (July 5)
Rogue One #4 (July 5)

>Star Wars: The Last Jedi trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ

>Star Wars: Rebels - The Final Season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7GAhnVwhA

>Battlefront 2 trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q51LZ2HpbE

>Star Wars: Forces of Destiny trailer
https://youtu.be/UkEgVzE4U54 [Open]

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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First for best girl.
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remember no fascist imagery allowed in our safe space
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>>93701301
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>>93701359
incidentally Ozzel is literally Hitler
same actor
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>>93701359
So it's going to be a Jedi-free thread then? Should have let Oberststurmfuehrer here >>93701353 know.
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>>93701359
The dude admitted Tarkin, of all fucking people, was his favourite character. You need to stop being so triggered by someone not wanting to draw something for you. Go pay an artist if you really want it
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>>93701427
t. the triggered dude
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>>93701335
Artists come here when they feel like drawing but not sure what they want to draw. They're not going to take every request, they're going to wait until there's one they like. And drawing pre-existing designs/characters is a lot easier than thinking up something totally new, which he may not have felt like.
Honestly if you're so entitled you'll whine and sling insults if someone isn't going to draw what you want for free, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>93701440
>Vader vs Odin
What the shit?
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>>93701440
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>>93701463
>>93701461
>>93701440
vader putting an end to varg vikernes once and for all
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>>93701463
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>>93701440
If Vader is mostly using force abilities in this fight, it could be quite the special event to behold
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>>93701463
>>93701440
This dude has a bit of a Rey hairstyle going on.
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>>93701353
The Space Owls are not what they seem.
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>>93701487
Stop embracing the dark side
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>>93701463
>>93701494
OH SHIT ITS REY'S GRANDFATHER

>those scars too
S-SNOKE?!?!?!
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>>93701378

That thing has an Inquisitor ring too, meaning it SPINS.
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>>93701490
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>>93701455
Well, he got his buzzwords in calling him a beta and telling him to go back to /pol/, when he wanted nazis.
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>>93701463
>double manbuns and a faggot earring
Nu-canon isn't worth this.
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>>93701509
laughed at this more than I should have desu

>>93701520
lmao I wanted a scout trooper officer and I suggested combining the aesthetics of a Nazi because the artist didn't know what a fucking sandtrooper was and then he got triggered by fascist references
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>>93701514
>>93701540
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>>93701353
25th for best Ashoka
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>>93701514
I always liked the idea that Jedi could levitate with intense training. Can imagine Yoda doing this.

Ridiculous non-canon shit aside, theres a moment in Genddywars where Dooku slowly levitates down to land which I always thought was neat, and that the highest-skilled force weilders should be able to do. A bit videogame-y, but still.
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>>93701537
Don't be a twat, m8
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>>93701378
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>>93701559
And that's all folks until the issue comes out
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>>93701540
>>93701463
>>93701440
This guy's deal is he's all about fighting, right? This could be good. The new Vader comic is already going in neat lore directions, I hope we get something about how the Jedi reconcile their peaceful noninterference ways with being the most unstoppable violence-machines ever, and how they'd deal with one of their own who just loves Mortal Kombat.
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>>93701560
damn, she looks like THAT? hubba hubba, what a woman
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>>93701578
Did someone say...
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>>93701567
That popped up in the EU, too. Luke said he accidentally levitated himself five feet into the air while meditating once and fell on his ass when Han distracted him.
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>>93701353
I WANT TO MATING PRESS AHSOKA
WITH MY HUMAN SEED
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>>93701578
>facial heat increases
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>>93701578
>weaponized art
Somewhere Thrawn just had to go change his pants
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>>93701578
INCOMING
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>>93701616
>not wanting ahsoka to mating press you in the amazon position to extract your seed forcefully """""""against"""""""" your will
s m h
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>>93701578
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>>93701555
>Politely declining someone is getting triggered

wew
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>>93701559
I really don't like how cartoonishly perfect this guy is.
It's so fan-fictiony
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>>93701577

>Kylo Ren's lightsaber is so stupid. What if he stabs himself in the wrist? I don't think it could get dumber
>Hold my beer
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>>93701653
>Guy who has spent decades training his fighting skills is good at fighting
woah...
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>>93701653
the guy was too retarded to remember or research what any of the imperial trooper armors and uniforms looked like, and when I suggested an easy recognizable reference in the form of the bad guys of real life, he recoiled in terror at the thought of drawing a Nazi and threw a hissyfit about drawfag prerogatives
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>>93701653
(You)
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>>93701653
It's not like it will make any difference. He's as good as dead.
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>>93701692
wat
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>>93701692
whoops didn't mean to quote that post, I was replying to >>93701648
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>>93701301
George pls
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>>93701653
>wahhh why is this Jedi MASTER who focused solely on training in combat really good
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>>93700978
How about a quick doodle of her in a blanket eating it?
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>>93701691
It's just more Vader wank

>Ok so Vader needs to kill a Jedi to get his new lightsaber. The only Jedi left he can find is a 11/10 fighter that devotes himself exclusively to fighting. And he's super good at the Force. And he wants to kill Vader on principle alone. And he doesn't wear shirts to show off his epic scar.

All that set up for Vader can kill him in order to look EVEN COOLER.

A better story would have been Vader tracking someone actually running and killing them anyways.
This honorabu duel shit doesn't make a good story because Vader doesn't need to feel anything other than justification in killing him.
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>>93701746
That's my point
>Oh by the way there was a secret Jedi Master that we've never seen before and he was the BEST EVER at Fighting

That's like half of all fan fictions
>secret guy who is the best at something
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>>93701692
>Saying 'I'd rather draw something else'. Is throwing a hissyfit.
I suppose immediately word-vomiting 'beta bitch', 'autist' and 'you're the reason the holocaust happened' because someone won't draw your dumb idea for free is reacting reasonably?
Also
>drawfag prerogatives
Are you serious? You pratt.
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>>93701777
Thanks, but where is the ice cream?
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>>93701653
thats pretty much how the comics are
>books are full of political intrigue. full of realistic and believable events that are tame but still show the strengths and power of characters

>comics are full of the most insane out of this world bullshit and quiptastic characters have the development of a patch of grass


MARVEL GET OUT
REEEEE
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>>93701778
>Why is the Vader comic trying to make Vader look good?

Yeah, because what we really need is to see Vader getting his ass kicked, and struggling to hunt down Padawans for the first year of him being in the suit.
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>>93701813
Hard to see because my phone is a fucking potato, but in her hand.

I should probably clean this picture up
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>>93701778
>expecting an intrigue-fuelled cat-and-mouse pursuit game between a runaway Jedi and Darth Vader from nu-canon writers

Feasts don't grow in a desert, anon.
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>>93701777
C U T E
U
T
E
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>>93701799
>Oh by the way there was a secret Jedi Master that we've never seen before and he was the BEST EVER at Fighting
Whitey gotta take everything from a black man.
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>>93701800
I didn't say any of that, that drawfag kept stringing me along asking for details and when he revealed himself to be an idiot unaware of anything star wars, I told him to use Nazis as a reference and then suddenly he went HOLD THE PHONE THERE YOU DONT EXPECT ME TO DRAW NAZIS DO YOU?
fuck you, fuck him, I already got someone on /tg/ to do it
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>>93701815
>stop wanting something better!
>you get what you get and fucking LIKE it
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>>93701893
>an artist asks for a reference to get exactly what you want
>REEEEEE HE DOESNT KNOW THE LORE AND EVERY SINGLE SET OF ARMOUR OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD GOOD ENOUGH TO DRAW
oh boy you've never met an artist before, have you?
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>>93701896
The time for honoring yourself will soon come to an end, Filoni.
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>>93701925
I hear you, brother.
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>>93701923
I gave him references, he refused to consider them. In other words, he's EXACTLY what I expected from an attention whoring "artist".
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>>93701849
It's almost like the main fucking comic hasn't been doing that with Luke and Vader or something

Christ

>Do something safe and predictable
>"wahh, no creativity, boring, fuck nu-canon"

>Do something interesting and new and exciting
>"wahh, it's not what I want, 2dumb4me, fuck nu-canon"
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>>93702006
Welcome to the Star Wars fandom
No greater hive of cum and bitchery
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>>93702006
It's almost like the execution matters.
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>>93701013
>imagine attaching the other specialist trooper stuff on him like those colored shoulder pauldrons or the flared hips on the pants of the shoretroopers/tanktroopers from rogue one, I dunno, use your imagination
>>93701965
he asked for references and you said 'draw a nazi' which he turned down. Not a single reference picture was posted. You literally said "lol draw this thing that doesn't exist idk what it would look like'
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>>93702042
>no yellow thicc saber
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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If you gave your Jedi OC a purple saber, would they be a Mary Sue?
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>>93702033
We must be cautious.
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>>93702079
Mace has one and he's a huge dick so no
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>>93702065
Yellow is for Temple guards and shitty headcanons.
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>>93702079
No necessarily, but it reduces the likelihood that they're not
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>>93702058
>posts evidence refuting his argument he makes on the next line
????
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>>93702103
>be a youngling
>oh boy it's time to go to Illum to get my very own kyber crystal
>go through the ordeal of finding one
>it's fucking yellow
>"Oooh... Sorry champ. Looks like you're going to be a temple janit- I mean guard. Here's your ceremonial mop and bucket. GREAT honour."
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>>93701866
Have any other requests?
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>>93701567
Vader levitated in ESB during the duel on Bespin, it just wasn't as prolonged as Dooku's doing it.
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>>93702103
>implying
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>>93702083
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>>93702158
When?
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>>93702159
Who's that non-canon character?
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>>93702151
kek
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>>93702156
Sabine eating an ice cream.
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>>93702210
Literally in the filename
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>>93702172
Right here after he knocks Luke down some stairs. You'll have to excuse my kinda dirty looking copy.
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>>93702156
Maketh Tua enjoying a glass of fine Jogan Brandy after a hard day at the office.
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>>93702246
kek
He looks like he's straight up flying like Peter Pan
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>>93702234
No, seriously, I can't see anything not canonical. My nu-canon overlords won't allow it past the Mousefilter.
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>>93702217
Sabine licking ice cream off Hera's lekku
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>>93702246
Oh yeah, I remember that now

I suppose he's done it a few times in the comics too
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>>93702286
Speaking of licking lekku, my headcanon is that licking someone's lekku or montrails gives them the sensation of like 5 orgasms due to weird alien brain shit and Anakin used to jokingly lick Ahsoka's montrails all the time and make her nearly cum. Obi-Wan would just hear a loud moan from Ahsoka and when he walks into the room Ahsoka looks like she's about to pass out while Anakin is snickering.
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>>93702246
>And what did you accomplish today, Lord Vader?
>I kicked my son down a flight of stairs and cut off his right hand. Was a pretty good day.
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>>93702217
Working on it
>>93702255
This one is next, she is a top tier waifu
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>>93702292
He did. He did it in a couple of the old EU comics. I know he did it in the first Purge comic, that Douglas Wheatley did the art for. I think he did it in an issue of Empire too.
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>>93701643
>Amazon Position
This guy knows where its at.
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>>93702335
>Oh and I pelted him lightly with garbage. He didn't like that much, let me tell you.
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>>93702369
Here we go.
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>>93702417
Looks like someone really wanted to draw for Batman
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>>93702439
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>>93702458
There's that not actually that bad Batman vs Vader fan short film out there
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>>93701578
Can someone shoop the last panel to say (You)?
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>>93702439
That was my thought when I first bought that book and read it. Still a cool shot though.
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>>93701777
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>>93702670
>someone coloured my art

thanks anon I appreciate it a lot. Looks amazing
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>>93702692
Why does Hera have 6 fingers tho
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>>93702746
Lazy hands because I don't feel like taking 20 minutes to draw a decent one. note how fucking awful the hand looks in this one
>>93702217
Delivery
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>>93702103
>>93702151

>implying there's anything wrong with being a temple guard
>not having the personality and resolve to become a temple guard
>not wanting to defend the honor and sanctity of the jedi temple
>wanting to be a prancy fairy boy
>not wanting to die defending the temple against the ultimate evil instead of getting backstabbed on some backwater planet by a literal no name clone
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>>93702812
kek

Now Kanan eating an ice cream.
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>>93702896
Be honest: Do you just want the entire rebels crew eating ice cream?
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>>93702868
4 of them couldn't handle a padawan.
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>>93702911
I just don't have any other ideas at the moment.

Well, I do actually, but you said you don't like Aphra, so I'm not voicing them.
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>>93702670
>>93702812
I know it's autism but it was just bothering me too much
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Drawfag here. I mean, the other drawfag.

>>93702812
>>93701777
>>93702670
Cute! I really like these. Hera, in particular, looks adorable. Nice to see some fellow drawanons on the general. I wish I could work even a quarter as fast as you do. Jealous.

I've got a few free hours this evening so I'm starting out on LukexAphra with some (very) rough poses. So anything you want to see in particular, it's always easiest to add it in now.
And no, there won't be a lewd version of this one. Sorry. I couldn't bring myself to make a lewd featuring Luke. He's too pure!

>>93701692
>>93701893
And I bet you're a real fucking delight irl, pal. Holy shit!
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>>93702995
I don't like sabine or space aladdin, but I'm willing to listen to your ideas. What ideas do you have for her?
>>93703030
I like it, thanks for cleaning it up
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>>93702964
that was no mere padawan and you know it
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>>93703033
Drawanon. Yeah he got all assblasted when I politely turned him down. Most of these are just quick doodles, your art looks really polished and nice.
>that wip
Oh man I'm excited to see that
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>>93703033
Holy shit, this is going to be great!

>>93703046
Well, I had some ideas about Luke x Aphra, but the other anon got that covered.
But you know, you can always draw Aphra eating an ice cream...

How about old Rex or adult Ahsoka telling Luke stories about his father during the Clone Wars?
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>>93701512
You see the way the wee gobshite is holding it?
Only bit that'll be spinning will be the handle inside the ring.
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>>93703213
Well we've already had Aphra eating Ice-Cream.
I say Ice-cream series! The last one should be Vader mournfully failing to eat ice-cream through his mask.
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>>93703323
It's be funnier if he saw it fall on the ground and then shouted NOOOOOOO
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>>93703062
Thanks! But the price is taking an age and a half to actually finsh anything.
Such a shame. Hopefully he's just very young and has a lot of growing up to do. Otherwise there's just no hope for some people.
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>>93703062
>politely turned him down
Eat shit, coward. Your failures are your own.
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>>93702255
>enjoying alcohol

I might have taken some artistic liberties
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>>93703377
I know that. the pieces I spend ages on are the ones I actually do with my tablet, I find art on it to be harder for me, because I started with pen and paper I suppose.
>that response below you
Told you he was anally annihilated
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>>93702042
Probably be cheaper to go to a plumbing hardware shop to get the doohickeys, except for the blade tube bit.
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>>93703412
Your art is shit stop posting here you attention whore fag
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>>93703547
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>>93703412
She better be careful. All that alcohol will make her body burn faster.
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>>93703547
Somebody's bootyblasted
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>>93703547
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>>93703570
Here's the alternate version (that I seriously considered posting first but I'm not that much of a neenermeaner
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Quick! Who's your headcanon for Eli?
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>>93703651
The accent in the audiobook version did it.
He just wanted to do inventories, damn it!
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>>93703651
Still Michael Cera
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>>93703651
>inb4 that autistic guy that says HES ALREADY A CHARACTER

i just imagine him to look like a normal guy who's tired. he's a good base. It's a headcanon
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>>93703651
Van Johnson
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Valued EUfriends, I have a question - what's the best of the best?
I've had limited experience of the EU - the Zahn trilogy, The Truce at Bakura, some comics, and a load of the video games.
I'm more-or-less caught up with nucanon, and I'm going on hiloday and looking for something to bring with me - preferably a novel with an audiobook version. So, in swco's opinion, what's the best out there?
I'm leaning toward Plagueis, because I like the sound of the subject matter, but I'd love to know what you guys think is the best of the EU.
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>>93701514
>>93701540
>>93701559
why does this jedi look so grey?
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>>93703865
Plaguies, the rest of Zahn's books. X-wing series if you have the time.
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>>93703865
Check out Lucenos stuff
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>>93703865
Thrawn trilogy, though it has a significant amount of flaws, its easily the most suitably epic and grand and "star warsy" of any eu story

also star wars bounty hunter, its only fuckup that prevents coherence to canon is Gardulla being eaten by a krayt dragon and then showing up in TCW
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>>93703865
Shadows of the Empire was a pretty neat read.
Then again that was more than a decade ago I last read it so it could just have been the rapey stuff tickling me then.
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>>93703651
Blonde southerner
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>>93701849
man the darth vader we got looks like absolute shit compared to this
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Thanks, all!
>>93703950
I already have a strong impulse to read Luceno's legends stuff, based on the things he wrote in the canon. Do you have a particular favourite of them? Preferably one that doesn't rely on a lot of pre-existing legends lore to get into.

>>93704005
>>93703930
Do I need to know any large amount of lore to get into Shadows or X-Wing? Both look good, and I'm happy to read a couple articles on the wook or whatever so I'm caught up.
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>>93704054
such as Van Johnson
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>>93704101
Shadows takes place right after ESB and through to before RotJ. If you've seen the films you're good.
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>>93704101
pretty much the only lore you need for those are the movies

and maybe the thrawn trilogy and courtship of princess leia because they get referenced heavily
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>>93701815
That's not giving the comics enough credit. Shattered Empire, Lando, Obi-Wan and Anakin, Kanan and Vader are all great.
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>>93704136
>>93704148
Cool. I'll check all of these out and see which one is for me. Thanks anons.
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>>93703033
>And no, there won't be a lewd version of this one. Sorry. I couldn't bring myself to make a lewd featuring Luke. He's too pure!
Master DrawAnon, you disappoint me.
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>>93704274
>Guy brushes off every new canon comic (over 100 issues) in one sentence

That anon isn't here to listen to reason, it's just a bait shitpost, don't waste your time m8
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>>93704401
Fuck you, I'll waste my time if I want.
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>>93704101
I'd say Plaguies is a Legends must-read, but it heavily references lots of other stuff. I was reading a translated version (my English wasn't as good back then) where all the referenced works are named in footnotes, but I think it was something the fans added, not sure if the footnotes are in the original novel. But I think the book doesn't rely on other works as much as it simply references their events, so it shouldn't be a problem. Basically Plaguies gives you a quick rundown on all many other works that occur during it.

Shadows doesn't require anything IIRC, and if you've read the Thrawn Trilogy you're good to go into the X-Wing series. The main bulk of it anyway, the last one is set after NJO and was released 20 years later too.
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>>93704432
I've never encountered a footnoted version. But If anything really stumps you you can just go wookiepedia and read the cliff-notes to get up to speed quickly.
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>>93704572
kek
DOA
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>>93704609
>>93704572
I don't get it
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>>93704642
Look at her face.
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>>93704642
>A little bit of Sith, the way of Revan
>Grand admiral at 10
>gifted two super star destroyers
>Mando descent
>directly related to revan
>Master Darth Mandalore the Revanchist

it's satire anon
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reposting:

Leia Hairstyle Rating on a scale of 1 - 10
>ANH:
dual sidebuns - 3
victory ceremony - 9

>ESB:
scalp braid - 9
Bespin braids - 7
medical frigate bun - 9

>ROTJ:
helmet hair from rescuing Han from carbonite in Boussh disguise - 11
slavegirl ponytail braid - 5
scalp braid - 9
ewok frizz - -999999999999999999

>TFA:
braid/bun - 7

>Rebels:
ponytail bun - 8

did I miss any
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>>93704711
But why
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>>93702042
>Those prices
>dat tonfa cap

They dropped the tonfa for the Kylo and Kanan emitters. The prices have gone up as well. Getting both the Kylo emitter and the double-saber adapter will cost about $45-$50.

Also, I still think that not having an Inky option is a wasted opportunity
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>>93704744
It's making fun of star wars OCs
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>>93704572
seriously, who thought this animation style was a good idea? was it focus group BS?
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>>93704749
>the Kylo emitter and the double-saber adapter
That sounds tacky as shit, like something you'd see in TOR.
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>>93704762
It was a good idea, anon. It's cheap and looks like movement.
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>>93704815
I've seen all 3 so far and although it didn't offend me it did nothing to impress me at all. Really a wasted opportunity.
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>>93704815
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>>93704609
>Grand Admiral Master Darth Mandalore the Revanchist
Basalisk out of 10
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>>93704739
>not giving Hoth scalp braid 10/10

get better taste m8
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>>93704793
Whaddya know, it is, and it's shit
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>>93704363
Only a sith deals in absolewds, count anon!
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>>93704739
Best Leia hair coming through
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>>93704942
You are a treasure
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>>93704793
>>93704939
yikes
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>>93704762
Pretty sure this is a budget thing rather than someone going "yes jerky flash animation is my one true vision"
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>>93705013
Yuck
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Aphra preview
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>>93705310
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>>93705013
I've seen a few people in the Parks with the Kylo attachment on both ends.
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>>93705013
What the fuck is this abomination.
How are you meant to use this thing effectively without accidentally taking your fingers off.

This is fucking dumb.
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>>93705334
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>>93705365
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>>93705399
and a preview for Star Wars Adventures from IDW. can someone add this to the mega? i think this is separate from what the first issue will show, its unique
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>>93705399
This won't end well...
Don't do anything stupid, Chelli

>>93705427
What is this and why is another company publishing it?
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>>93705427
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>>93705494
Star Wars comic for kids that spans the whole saga. for some reason Disney is letting IDW handle it while letting Marvel handle the "adult" Star Wars comics. i guess it's like how Del Rey handles the "adult" books while Lucasbooks handles the young adult stuff, but in reverse
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>>93705517
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>>93705542
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>playing BF2
>die on the Death Star
>just sort of awkwardly wander around for 3 minutes straight silently (the music stops) until you make it back to your target
>a rebel with a shotgun is camping behind the corner and immediately shoots me
>do this for 2 more times until I finally am able to destroy the shuttle the Rebels are trying to escape in
>oops actually even though the shuttle literally never moved and you had gotten it to like 5% health in 30 seconds (with no help to your shock trooper AI since they never use their rockets on anything unless it's close enough to kill you as well) they escaped and you need to do the mission over again
>do all of this over again
>fight the Jedi
>lose 20 people within the span of like 10 seconds
>get to the last few shots on the Jedi
>he kills me
Is it just me or is Battlefront 2 one of those games where every now and then the problems in a mission just stack up and up until the whole mission is an impossible clusterfuck? I find that it happens like 1 in every 4 times I do a mission.
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>>93705494
Holy shit I love this artstyle
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>>93705623
oops, i mislabled and posted 5 and 6 out of order. heres the actual 5
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>>93705650
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>>93704762
It's a shitty little youtube short (and later a literal commercial for toys) made for little girls. Why are you expecting Samurai Jack or Cowboy Bebop level animation? What's next, complaining about the special effects of the DVD menus for The Force Awakens?
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>>93705672
comes out in september
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>>93705650
Where is Ahsoka?!
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>>93705637
battlefront 2 was seriously overrated, even 2015 was better than it
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>>93705691
well, desu, the menus are very barebones for TFA

especially when compared to the prequel menus
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>>93705728
I know this is blatant bait, but sometimes the bait is too good.

(You)
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>>93705713
She went underground to help the space wolves out with some knotty problems. We won't see that story in a comic aimed at kids.
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>>93705758
not even bait, battlefront 1 was always the best and bf2 was a step backward in nearly every way with the exclusive of Temuera Morrison's voice over

I legitimately unironically have better hopes for nu BF2 than 2006 BF2 (though itll probably still be worse than 2015 and definitely will be worse than 2004)
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>>93701577
WHY DID IT TAKE ME HOURS TO REALISE THE FUCKING JOKE, DEAR GOD KILL ME NOW
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>>93705813
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>>93705851
What's the joke? It just looks retarded
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>>93705542
So who's the red Twi'lek girl and mask face?
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>>93705871
For real? I'm at a loss of words...
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>>93704682
She wants the D.
The Billy D.
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>>93705871
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>>93704739
RO CGI hair was sidebuns?
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>>93705890
Oh my god how the fuck did I miss that
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>>93705862
Lemme guess, the reason you have nostalgia goggles for BF2 is the space battles? The same space battles that required you to hop in whatever craft you could to fly into the enemy's hangar and start playing a normal ground battle?
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>>93705945
yeah that's the only time you see cgi leia, exactly as she looked in the beginning of anh
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>>93705959
Yeah, those were cool, but what I really want to know is why do you think Dicefront II will be worse than the 2015 one
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>>93705951
I don't get the comic
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>>93706035
because I was in the alpha and it was cluttered unfun shit with pisspoor FOV that made BF 2015 look good

singleplayer might be good though but that defeats the purpose
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>>93706063
Of course you don't
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>>93706103
You could probably change the FOV. Even the console versions let you do that
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>>93705929
Does Thrawn ever do the art appreciation thing and go "Nope. Not fucking with these people, ever. No. Nope."?
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>>93706118
I was in the alpha and there was no such option, I know that alphas change, but there needs to be a LOT of change. What I played was not Battlefront II, it was Battlefield 4 mixed with Call of Duty given a thin Star Wars veneer.
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>>93706063
for (You), look at the window
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>>93706169
I can see the loss in the window. I don't understand the rest of the comic.
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>>93706251
good lord, even my normie friends know the basics of DnD
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>>93706292
Your friends aren't normies then obviously because normies don't play DnD.
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>>93706251
First: a pun. "Crit" as in "critical hit" substituted from tabletop rpgs for "hit the hay," meaning to go to bed.

Second: an absurdity. Hyperbolic exaggeration of the effects of critical hits in tabletop rpgs applied to simple real world tasks. The comic embellishes a critical success by having the dice roller fall asleep so hard he destroys the bed. Contrariwise, a critical failure would have employed a joke about permanent insomnia.

I hope I successfully substituted for your absent sense of humor.
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>>93706292
Never played stuff like this

>>93706332
Thanks
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>>93704762
what's wrong with the style anon? This doesn't look good to you? you don't like sassy anny-kin?
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>>93706584
as always, it's a skywalker that's best girl
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>>93706145
>Battlefield 4 mixed with Call of Duty given a thin Star Wars veneer.
sounds much better than BF:EA
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>>93705880
It's Sidon Ithano, Kix, and Reveth

Read this.
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>>93706729
you wish
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>>93706743
no fucking way

hes the only good design (besides the finalizer desu) out of TFA
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>>93706743
He's the new flavor of Kaleesh, right?
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>>93706877
Well he's a Delphidian, but his helmet is a polished Kaleesh war helmet.
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>>93706797
Finalizer is sex. It's like the Scott Steiner of post-Empire warship designs: Big Bad Booty Daddy
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>>93706948
Every angle that is not the one from the movie is sexy, yeah. And it actually makes sense as a design, you can't just cut the bridge off the top and doom the entire ship, like a standard star destroyer.

love it.
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>>93706923
That explains the hands, then. Thank you.
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>>93706797
>>93706948
DESU I like all of the FO designs from TFA.
Even the TIEs, whilst unoriginal as hell, have a gorgeous paint job (impressive the effect just inverting the color scheme does.)
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>>93707414
hot

FO has best ships, Empire has best uniforms
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>that one time Palpatine brought a giant monster to Coruscant to study it even though the Jedi realized that it would likely destroy part of the city but he kept insisting like he had some weird plan that involved bringing the giant monster to Coruscant then when the monster actually did attack Coruscant like everyone assumed it did and then afterwards Palpatine insisted that they clone the monster
>also that other time when Palpatine kept requesting a little boy come into his office even though the Jedi don't allow Padawans out of the Temple unless on official business and they weren't the least bit suspicious even though Palpatine was using tactics that are blatant signs of him at least molesting the padawan if not trying to turn him to the dark side
>then that time when Palpatine literally fucking attacked Yoda through a force vision but because Yoda couldn't see 1/4th of his face he couldn't figure out it was him
>and finally that one time Dooku literally told Obi-Wan that there was a Sith Lord in the Senate meanwhile Palpatine was clearly consolidating more power for himself through the war and took over the banks and the Jedi didn't realize that he was the Sith Lord
>oh and that time Palpatine admitted to Order 66's existence but the Jedi gave 0 fucks
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>>93707414
inverting the TIE colors was the stupidest fucking idea in all of Star Wars, THEY'RE FUCKING SOLAR PANELS THEY CANT BE REFLECTIVE WHITE THEY HAVE TO BE ABSORBENT BLACK YOU FUCKING RETARDS
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>>93707485
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>>93707485
>Dooku literally told Obi-Wan that there was a Sith Lord in the Senate
hi shieldgate/valorum/saberdart/noconfidence anon its been a while since you made an incredibly stupid and obviously wrong statement of picking out nonexistent star wars plot holes
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>>93707551
What are you talking about? Did we start arguing about other retarded shit while I was gone?
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>>93707414
also whilst it's not in the film proper there's this neat take on a next-gen Lambda shuttle.
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>>93707570
last thread or maybe the one before some idiot was asking WHY DIDNT THE JEDI JUST BLOODTEST EVERYONE INVOLVED IN REPUBLIC POLITICS FOR MIDICHLORIANS TO DETERMINE IF ONE OF THEM IS THE SITH BECAUSE DOOKU LITERALLY SAID THIS THING THAT'S NOT IN THE SCRIPT????
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>>93707570
Retard last thread, nothing new.
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>>93707514
phugly ass design though
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>>93707619
that's fucking lewd, spoiler that shit
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>>93707683
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>>93707703
>TCW got canned before the return of this thing
Fuck this gay Earth
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>>93707619
>based off the model that shows up in Rebels all the time
Disgusting. It should be the one in RO and ROTJ.
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>>93707724
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>>93707728
the sentinel first appeared in ANH SE, but that version's hull design and wing shape looks a lot like the Zeta class quad wing from RO
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>>93707619
Twooper Twansport!!
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>>93707864
>flying gray wedges
Gross
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>>93707864
I kinda like it
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>>93707864
>A brick with jet engines
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>>93707912
I can dismissively oversimplify too, watch
>a triangle with jet engines
>a hamburger with jet engines
>a whale with jet engines
>an axe with jet engines
>a penis with jet engines
>a plane with jet engines
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>>93707864
>>93707619
>>93707414
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>>93706797
Too bad the same can't be said about his actual face under the mask.
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>>93707975
Why do you say that?
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>>93707992
The face is basically human, but bald and almost pitch-black.
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>>93707864
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>>93705542
God I hate those FO helmets, it actually looks like everyone's having a giggle at Finn getting his helmet nicked because of that stupid smile.
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>>93708051
What's so bad about that?
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>>93707992
>>93708070
hes one of these
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>>93708064
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>>93707992
>>93708070
This is what that guy's species looks like, for the record.
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>>93708070
Because he's yet another near-human alien. Not something I consider a good design.
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>>93708088
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>>93708087
Forgot image
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>>93708119
>I'm not black enough I need to go blacker
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>>93708114
That's he sort of smile you get from a bouncer at a strip club after you break the three second rule.
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>>93708102
>>93708119
God, it's disgusting.
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>>93708102
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>>93701301
that thing looks like the damn gashacon sword
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>>93707864
that searchlight sure is doing a great job. Also what is that gunner meant to hit?
and that cockpit will never not be retarded
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>>93708102
I actually kind of like it

sue me
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Is there a place to watch TCW online for free, preferably on widescreen (so not TV rips)?

Thank you in advance.
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>>93708102
i hope they retcon this. didnt pay his debts to space gangsters on time so they stuck a rubber tyre around his head and set fire to it.
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>>93708303
>preferably on widescreen (so not TV rips)
16:9 is not widescreen enough for you?
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>>93708349
his outfit is shit. No effort was put into the actual costume design throughout the movie
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Do you think we'll get Rey's midichlorian count in TLJ?
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>>93708477
Daily reminder that Midichlorians
1. Are not the force and this is stated in TPM
2. The force always had a biological/genetic component seeing as Luke inherited great power from his father
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>>93708477
I wonder if people in the galaxy even know about them anymore. Sort of depends on wether or not Obi Wan or Yoda told Luke about them.
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>>93708515
>1. Are not the force and this is stated in TPM
But Qui-Gon says it's through the midichlorians that people can communicate with the Force
And that they're even necessary for life itself.
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>>93708477
More importantly, will she end up getting a double saber?
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>>93708563
Not new enough.

She's getting a lightsaber pike with a kortosis weave shaft.
Maybe they won't say kortosis, but it'll mentioned as "special fuck-lightsabers material"
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>>93708523
>Go down well with general audiences, they did not. Forget about them, you should.
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>>93708562
And?
It is stated that they are not the force by Qui-Gon. They are merely conduits.
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>>93708598
What I'm saying is that your stealth defensive position about the midichlorians has no point
Whether they're the Force or just necessary for the Force, they're an integral part of it.
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>>93708515
>2. The force always had a biological/genetic component seeing as Luke inherited great power from his father
oh man I remember arguing with this idiot a while ago (probably the same guy we've seen lately) who INSISTED that the Force was absolutely not genetic and was totally random and moved goalposts hard by ignoring the evidence to that effect (i.e. the entire Skywalker lineage)
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>>93708064
>>93708088
If they had of been used for like a faction of the Empire who were "good" or at least less evil, they would be a very good design.
But as Space Nazi 2.5, yeah they are a disappointment.
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>>93708627
>has no point
My point was rhat they are not the force and that there was always a biological component so nothing changed except revealing what that biological component was.
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>>93708639
imo, it would have been better if it was tied to spirit or something.
Like, the Skywalker family spirit or soul or something.
Something that you can't measure with science
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>>93708639
Only the Skywalkers have displayed it as being genetically inheritable. They are the exception, not the rule.
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>>93708639
that guy also said Force powers could be transmitted from one person to another because Midichlorians were like floating allergens or some shit

>>93708679
and there he is
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>>93703865
The X-Wing novels, anything by Luceno, Shatterpoint, some of the Tales of stories are good, the ROTS novelization is pretty good, though it can maybe get a little purple prose at times.

As far as comics, the Tales series, Tag and Bink, Dark Times, KOTOR, the X-Wing comics (a lot of the art is dated, but still worth checking out), some of Republic and Empire too.
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>>93708679
And the Tiplee sisters in TCW.
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>>93704101
Labyrinth of Evil is really good Luceno, if you're okay with prequel stuff.
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>>93708696
Sorry, bro, until they canonize someone else that wields the Force having kids that are Force sensitives, you've only got one example. Ezra's parents weren't, for example, yet their son is.
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>>93708703
The ROTS novel is the most melodramatic thing i've ever read. Jesus.
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>>93708679
>Skywalkers don't count because they are Skywalkers
>Tiplee and Tiplar don't count because they're just one example
>Adi Gallia and Stass Allie don't count because reasons

Moving the goalposts 101
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>>93708708
Siblings aren't the same as children of.
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>>93708736
>if you're okay with prequel stuff.
????
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>>93708761
Some people, to this day, still cry out in butthurt at anything prequel related. I didn't know if the guy I was responding to was one of those butthurts.
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>>93708740
See
>>93708708

>>93708758
It's about genetics you fool.
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>>93708753
Adi and Stass were cousins, not parent and child.
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>>93708740
Shmi wasn't a jedi either you nitwit, and you fail to provide contrary evidence to the notion that Force is inheritable. It doesn't work backwards. Thomas Jefferson isn't black because he had a lot of slave babies.
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Since Force connectivity is genetic, could a nefarious Empire create a breeding program to create Force super-soldiers?
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>>93708795
that's literally a plot point in episodes of TCW AND Rebels
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>>93708783
Again, provide an example of a parent passing Force sensitivity onto their child that isn't a Skywalker or (from a Skywalker in the case of Ben Solo). Go ahead, I'll wait.
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>>93708740
Spontaneous mutations.

>>93708785
>>93708758
They share the same genetics.
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>>93708820
What?
I don't remember that

I remember Sidious wanting babbies, but I figured that was just to cuck Jedi and make them into Inquisitors or what have you
Not breed them.
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>>93708824
>excluding the example that proves me wrong
provide ONE (1) example of force sensitive individuals bearing a child that is not force sensitive
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>>93708795
This is more or less implied to be the source of the Inquisitors.
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>>93708824
>Skywalkers don't count because I say so
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>>93708824
You're moving the goalposts.
see
>>93708515
I am talking about a genetic component, not specifically parents.
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>>93708794
Thank you for proving my point: Force sensitivity is not tied to a genetic component in any case except the Skywalkers thus far. Citing siblings or cousins does not show a genetically-inheritable condition.
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>>93708853
Implications where?
I mean it sounds cool, but I don't ever remember thinking that
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>>93708877
Yes it does, genetic traits are known to skip generations.
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>>93708849
Theron Shan
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>>93708877
>sisters aren't biologically related
damn...
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>>93708893
Absence of a thing does not prove the existence of a thing.
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Why don't clone Jedi work?
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>>93708926
Because the Force dictates whether someone is Force sensitive, not DNA.
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>>93708900
>using non-canon evidence
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>>93708877
>this guy unironically things genetics works backwards
wew

>>93708922
>complete absence of evidence for his assertion that the force and midichlorians have no heritability component
really checks out my older access code
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>>93708926
because there's enough moral quandaries regarding a religious organization kidnapping potentially dangerous children to sequester away without adding cloning to the mix

unless you're talking about the EU in which case you're an idiot
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>>93708905
>>93708953

If Rey turns out to be a Kenobi, then the matter will be settled. Until then, there's not enough evidence to suggest a Force sensitive that isn't part of the special snowflake Skywalker line can pass their Force sensitivity to their children.
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>>93708926
We don't have any examples of cloned Jedi in canon so I have no fucking idea.
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>>93708922
>>93708984
see
>>93708905
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>>93708984
>The Force is strong in my family...
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>>93708984
imo making Rey a Kenobi would be a mistake

Obi-wan needs to be an uptight law following guy.
Otherwise he's a major hypocrite with Anakin
Not to mention that it'd prevent the universe from expanding, canonically.

Rey should be a nobody.
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>>93709032
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>>93708984
>there's not enough evidence
there has literally been evidence for 35 fucking years
>>93709032
which you choose to ignore because you're a fucking retard, the burden of proof is on you to back up your contrary assertion that the force has nothing to do with genetics
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>>93709037
Maybe she'll be a Dooku
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>>93708922
Occam's razor, m8.

>two relatives share the same trait
>explanation A: they inherited it from a common ancestor
>explanation B: it's not genetic, it just so coincided that two twin sisters got it even when only one out of a bajillion people randomly get it

>Luke inherits the Foce from his father
>explanation A: that's how it works
>explanation B: that's not how it works, this case is an exception because no reason, I just say it is, trust me
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>>93709061
you're right, your argument that the force isn't genetic has no evidence, but the argument that the force is genetic is, you're just ignoring the evidence because it proves you wrong, that's called moving the goalposts, else "no true scotsman"
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>>93709086
Dooku is too silly of a name of Disney to use nowadays, desu
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>>93709037
>I know this spacing scheme

get out of here misunderstanding guy
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>>93709104
Who do you think I am?
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>>93709102
>>93709086
first I've heard of this fan theory, can't say I'm opposed to the idea but you'd have trouble fitting in previously unknown Dooku relatives within the 30 odd years it takes for Rey to be born after his death
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>>93709132
I mean the Dookster could have had kids, right?
If they're wee bairns in TCW then they wouldn't necessarily have been mentioned.

Rey could be Dooku's grandkid or great grandkid
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>>93709102
>sheev
>Wilhuff

hate to break it to you...
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>>93709080
I've challenged the assumption that it is, which is only supported by a single example in 35 years of Star Wars. Show me Ki Adi Mundi's passel of Force-using kids. Show me Mace Windu's gaggle of love children that can move objects with their minds. Or Qui-Gon Jinn's. Or literally anyone else where a descending generation shows an inheritable Force sensitivity. If you cannot do so, then we have no option but to function, by evidence, that ONLY the Skywalkers, beginning with Anakin, are able to pass it to their descendants, and anyone else we see with Force sensitivity have it because the Force willed it so.

>>93709095
Occam's Razor still requires a REPETITION of an event, otherwise it's a fluke. You cannot base a conclusion on ONE example and declare that a rule.
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>>93709202
Those will NEVER be used in a movie

Movies need to have wide appeal
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>>93709102
One of the leads is named after a teletubby
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>>93709219
>first part of your stupid post
hypothetical evidence is not evidence, refute the evidence given in the form of MULTIPLE examples

>second part of your stupid post
wow you literally do not know how movies work
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>>93709219
>You cannot base a conclusion on ONE example and declare that a rule.
And yet you are basing your conclusion on ZERO examples and declare that a rule.
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>>93709249
Maybe, but it's still a real name.
See Edgar Allen
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>>93709261
You don't have multiple examples, you have one. Anakin to Luke and Leia to Ben/Kylo. There are no other examples given in canon so far where a heritage of Force sensitivity can be traced across generations.
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I have a hard time believing either of Ezra's parents were Force sensitive.
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Rey should be a Palpatine. It's been proposed before and would make some sense.
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>>93709282
My conclusion isn't a conclusion, it's a hypothesis with about 999 examples of unconfirmed inherited Force sensitivity.
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>>93709305
well now that you're moving the goalposts (again) to define genetic examples as purely cross-generational, you still don't have any evidence to refute the skywalker lineage other than "BECAUSE I SAID SO"

and there was also the 4 or 5 issue Yoda journal arc in the marvel comics where a bunch of force sensitive people birthed force sensitive children over and over again

>>93709307
it's never been suggested that they were, spontaneous mutations can arise without prior appearance
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>>93709307
They weren't. Force sensitivity is a rare spontaneous genetic mutation that normally doesn't get to be passed down because the subject is taken to the Jedi Order, member of which don't start families and dies childless, eliminating the mutation from the gene pool.
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>>93709361
>and there was also the 4 or 5 issue Yoda journal arc in the marvel comics where a bunch of force sensitive people birthed force sensitive children over and over again
Got a link to that, and is it considered canon? If so, then the matter is settled to my satisfaction and this can be put to rest.
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>>93709332
>999 examples of unconfirmed inherited Force sensitivity
>999 examples of non-facts
wew fucking lad
if I had a dime for every brain you didn't have, I'd have a nickel
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>>93709283
That's his last name
Dameron Poe actually sounds a little less silly desu
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>>93709400
If you can't show the money, then the wallet is empty, not assumed full. I'll take your nickel and give you change.
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>>93709305
The force is symbolically portrayed as a literal family in canon you mong
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>>93709307
They could.
Almost all people are to some degree.
Han was part of the way there.

It just hit critical levels in Ezra
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>>93709429
A metaphor is not a literality, and if rumor is true it's about to be a tree.
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>>93709406
I prefer "Short first name, long last name".

And last names switch all the time.

Maybe he's scottish
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>>93709386
it's called Yoda's Secret War, it's within the canon Marvel comics

>>93709419
you haven't shown any money whatsoever
I have, at the very least, one dollar, but you say it doesn't count because...reasons
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>>93709447
>it doesn't count because they're supernatural deity things
wow you sure showed him
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I was bored, and got inspired by our drawanons.

Please rate my amateur attempts at drawfagging.
And maybe give some advice or something.
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>>93709447
Theology is complicated

Like how Jesus is his own dad and also inside everyone and shit
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>>93707506
Don't some sources try to redefine them as radiators? They should probably glow at some points but it's not quite as retarded as a starfighter with a power plant that's good for maybe 20 horsepower on a good day.

It does sort of reflect Lensman power sources but still, retarded.
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>>93709524
>Jesus inherited divinity even though Mary had none
>no one else has inherited divinity
wow I guess genetics just got disproven, Gregor Mendel btfo
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>>93709516
I'm gonna be blunt because I'm a little drunk.

The head shape is good. I can see you put effort into it and it shows.

The eyes are a little lifeless and don't seem to fit too well into the angle of the head.

And the hands.. Well, hands are very hard. Her wrist must be so flexible to hide her whole hand while her arm is almost parallel to the viewer. A mirror might help with that.

Keep it up though.
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>>93709524
That's only the thing because Arianism lost to Catholicism during the reign of Theodosius I.

>>93709460
If it's canon, then it's the second example and thus shows an inheritable genetic factor for the Force. Thank you for finally providing what was needed to settle this matter to scientific satisfaction.
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>>93709648
>That's only the thing because Arianism lost to Catholicism during the reign of Theodosius I.
Yeah and defined during the Council of Nicea in 325.

I love how the biggest religion battle of early Christendom was based on semantics
>Did Jesus exist before Jesus existed because God existed before and Jesus is God?

Arian was right btw
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>>93709648
AND GOOD RIDDANCE TO THOSE HEATHEN GOTHS, ARIANISM WAS A BARBARIAN HERESY THAT DENIED THE DIVINITY AND HUMANITY OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR

t. athanasius of alexandria
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I want to mass produce this droid!
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>>93709406
Long name before short name has been ruined forever for me by Krombopulos Michael.
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>>93709516
traditional drawanon here

I like it. Maybe even out the eyes a bit, and make the hands a bit bigger, but it's good. Your skill is pretty decent desu
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>>93709516
>Not drawing some shitty scout-trooper
What are you, racist against Nazis or something?

But seriously, this is looking very promising. (Aphra/Luke drawfag here) You've got a solid grasp of the fundamentals. In general, I'd say go lighter on the lines, suggest and gesture rather than going solidly on everything.
And don't be afraid to go for your own style! Rebels has a really specific look to its characters, and I can see you've been very faithful to it - eyes, shape of head, etc. Don't be afraid to change it up and find your own jam with these characters.
Overall - you're looking good! Always nice to see more drawanons getting in on the fun. I hope you'll draw some more with us!
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>>93709777
>>93709516
>>93709766
Looks like the gang is all here
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>>93709722
>still thiccer than Seventh Sister
how can SSfags EVER recover
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>>93709720
Athanasius a fag.
Not even a saint.

St. Ambrose of Milan best bishop of the 4th century
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>>93709705
381, actually, and it was the First Ecumenical Council of Constantinople that finally put that bill to rest.
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>>93709777
>What are you, racist against Nazis or something?
Kek
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>>93709843
>Athanasius is venerated as a Christian saint, whose feast day is 2 May in Western Christianity, 15 May in the Coptic Orthodox Church, and 18 January in the other Eastern Orthodox Churches. He is venerated by the Oriental and Eastern Orthodox Churches, the Roman Catholic Church, the Lutherans, and the Anglican Communion.
ARIANS BTFO HOW CAN THEY EVER RECOVER

OH WAIT THEY CANT THEY'RE EXTINCT AHAHAHHAHA

ROME: 1
ALARIC: 0
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>>93709870
Oh, thanks.
I'm a big fan of early Romano-Christian history

Such antics they got up to then.
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>>93709922
Yeah, but did he change the dynamic between the Church and the State forever?

Ambrose: Infinity
Athanasius: 1
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>>93709809
>>93709722

>implying there are people in this thread that would choose sticc organics over thicc droids
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>>93709997
Excuse me, this is a Christian thread.
Delet this
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>>93709997
>open rp
>ifunny watermark
CLANKERED
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>>93709997
>ifunny.ce
not sure whether to greentext the
>ifunny
or the
>.ce
more

>>93709983
fug, well I suppose you could say he changed history by preserving the Niceaen creed during the brief period of Arian repression
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>>93710050
>fug, well I suppose you could say he changed history by preserving the Niceaen creed during the brief period of Arian repression
But that's the thing
The Arian Heresy was literally over nothing
It was people fighting over whether Jesus was perfect since before his birth or whether he was perfect after his birth.
Like they both agreed that Jesus is perfect and the saviour of Mankind.

There was no reason for it to get as far as it did.
Arian going "Hmm... Well I guess Jesus didn't exist before he was born. But that doesn't mean he's not the Saviour! :D" should have been a minor thing instead of an Empire dividing schism.
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>>93710035

where's palpatine's shutdown command when you need it
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>>93709722
this droid is pure

>>93709997
this droid is a thot
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This is one of those weird times of the day to be on /swco/, isn't it?
Nothing but theologians arguing doctrine.
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>>93709620
>>93709766
>>93709777
Thank you all! I don't have much experience, and I suck at getting proportions right and drawing realistic(ish) people, usually sticking to cartoons, so as far as I'm concerned this was less of skill and more of just winging it and luckily getting something right, lol. But it's good to hear that you think I have potential. I'm not an artist or anything, but like trying to draw sometimes.

And I know I fucked up the hand, I just didn't feel like redoing it for the thousandth time. I know they are notoriously hard to get right.
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>>93710184
Discussing early Christianity intelligently and humorously is 10000000000000000x better than idiots picking apart movie plot holes that don't exist.
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>>93710198
Think about trying to draw some "realistic" figures.
Cartoons seem easier because they're not supposed to look real.
But there's still a baseline of "realness" they need to have

It's more about learning motion and angles and shit.
Real bodies can do that because they can't not be "real".
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>>93710230
I think I just missed the shift-change.
Somebody blows a whistle and shouts 'Alright, ss-posters out, theologians in!'
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>>93710110
It meant something to the bishoprics that practiced it. Arianism was easier to spread to barbarians like the Goths and Lombards because it was easy mode compared to crazy talk about 3 supreme deities that are also 1 supreme deity but isn't polytheism and blah blah blah. It didn't give people metaphysical headaches, especially polytheistic pagans who were more used to many deities with discrete realms of responsibility. The Trinitarian concept was so bizarre that there were holdouts against it until the 7th century.
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>>93710267
We're all the same people
Sometimes we're bored is all.
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>>93710289
there's Unitarians in the present bro

and that's entirely excluding monophysites and copts
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>>93710198
This guy has it right: >>93710250
There's a baseline of anatomy that'll stand you in goos stead no matter how cartoonish the characters you're drawing are.
Seriously, you say you're just an amateur but you've obviously got aptitude. Cultivate it. If you can't be pushed going to a local lifedrawing class, copying a few figure studies off Google images can be a very useful exercise.
But you're obviously well on your way there.
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>>93710184
>>93710267
>>93710294
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>>93710294
Oh, don't get me wrong - I'm enjoying spectating (and actually learning a thing or two)
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>>93710110
It wasn't "literally over nothing," it's over whether Jesus, the Son, is God or is merely a creature. That's massively important, because if you get it wrong you could be sending people to Hell by telling them to pray to Jesus.
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>>93710289
And it's still not gone.
Most American Protestants get antsy about whole Trinity thing.


IMO, the whole Arian Heresy wasn't really about doctrine. It's about the new Christians being full of violent energy after centuries of oppression and suddenly not having any way out.

Constantine allowing open worship of Christ and even partaking in it himself was such a change over how things were just 50 years before.
The Decian Persecution was still in living memory.

So suddenly it's ok to be Christian but there isn't a common enemy any more. People aren't bond by strife but still have that same energy.

That first few generations after oppression is lifted always lash out pointlessly. I'm not saying it's happening now... But...
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>>93710250
>>93710344
Thanks a lot for the advice and inspirational words!
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>>93710465
And thank you for sharing your art!
I hope we'll get to see more from you in the future.
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>>93710423
IIRC the big argument came over whether Jesus was the "same substance as God". The Arianists said no. Jesus is the Son of Man and came into being after Creation. Like Angels.

Getting into a shitfit about Jesus not being literally God is an autistic spergout by the Trinitarians.

I mean, if Jesus was literally God on Earth, why did He say "Father, why hast thou forsaken me?"
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>>93710465
You can do it bro.
The biggest obstacle to learning art is ambition, or there lack of.

If you want to do it, you can. It'll take time and effort.
Most people just don't have the wherewithal to stick with it.

I don't. I want to be good at drawin' pretty pittures.
But I can't handle the beginning stages.
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>>93701821
That would actually be cool, seeing him get used to the suit and overcoming it's limitations and his injuries.
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How mad would /tv/ get if they re released the OT but replaced some of the stormtrooper voices to females?
>>
While we're on the topic of Christianity, we can all agree that the Force is literally the Spirit?
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>>93701512
>>
>Come to the armpit of the internet in the dead of night.
>Find nothing but learned debate and constructive, encouraging criticism.

I like you, /swco/. Goodnight, anons.
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>>93710659
yes

>>93710534
Arianism is a prime example of why one Emperor Julian the Apostate was not enough.
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>>93710435
I wouldn't give Constantine credit for any of that. It was Diocletian that sowed those seeds, and it was Galerius who ended the persecutions. Moreover, Constantine's being baptized by an Arian, Eusebius, right before he died basically renders his Christianity questionable, by timing if not by rote.
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>>93710657
I wouldn't like it, but, it'd be "ok"
I mean the Stormtroopers were conscripts
The Soviets used women when it was necessary
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>>93710659
No, the Force is a tree.

t. George Lucas
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>>93710659
The Force is God
Anakin is Jesus
Shimi is the NotVirigin Mary
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>>93710572
>But I can't handle the beginning stages.
It took me five years to get to where I am and I'm still convinced Im horseshit. It never leaves you, just get actual criticism instead of 'lol fag you suk' and you'll get there.
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>>93710695
Galerius only ended the persecutions as a perfunctory endeavor on his deathbed because he saw the winds of politics changing.

Additionally, it was common practice by any Christian of the era to withhold baptism til one's deathbed on the understanding that baptism is a thing you can only do to cleanse your soul once, and if you sin after it, it's cancelled, meaning you're fucked. Early Christians were nothing if not practical.
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This is a good thread
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>>93710687
>Arianism is a prime example of why one Emperor Julian the Apostate was not enough.
Julian the Apostate is my favourite Emperor after the Based Five.

Julian is a prime example of why total booknerds are not good leaders.
I mean booksmarts can give you some victories, like the Battle of Strasbourg, but he got too up his bookish ass with his sneak attack on Ctesiphon.
Still, great guy.

Who was that general, by the way, who fought for the pagan gods but was fucked by the wind blowing his arrows back?

There were so many battles where "God" made an impact.
And not just the Battle of the Milvian Bridge
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>>93710534
>I mean, if Jesus was literally God on Earth, why did He say "Father, why hast thou forsaken me?"

It's a mystery, Anon. It's a sacred mystery, this is what the Catholic Church has always taught. But it is as it is. Jesus seems to indicate that he's linked to the Father in a really intimate way, like when he says "The Father and I are one." The Trinity is more than anything an attempt to make sense of what's in scripture, which is somewhat confusing but nevertheless must be true.
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>>93710768
It was still his call to make, Constantine only claimed credit for it after the fact and the Christians propagandized it rather than admit Galerius the despised one was responsible for it. Christianity's fellating of Constantine is one of the biggest ongoing jokes in historical study.
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>>93701463
So Rahm Kota is canon again?
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>>93710695
Diocletian was not anywhere close to being a Christian.
He modelled himself and his planned successors as a Jupiter and Hercules.
He was a pagan.
But, based Diocletian was more about fixing the Empire more than anything.
He turned the Principate into a godlike position (during life) out of necessity.
People are less to rebel when the believe their rulers are gods.
He essentially created the medieval kingdom right then and there.
Poor Diocletian though. Do so much to restore the Empire and have so many worms fuck it up.
FUCK GALERIUS
It's mostly his fault.

Constantine was an opportunist.
He wanted power. Using Christianity was the means to an end. He read the writing on the wall. Christfags were coming.
He always worked just for his own ends.
He wanted power ever since he saw his pappy have it.
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>>93710896
>Christianity's fellating of Constantine is one of the biggest ongoing jokes in historical study.
He's still very important
Without Constantine the Great, you could argue that Christianity would never get as far as it did.
Even if he was just an opportunist
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>>93711043
Mandalorians were a mistake

They're just shitty klingons
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>>93711104
Mando Sues were one of the worst things about the EU.
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>>93711043
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>>93710928
Diocletian was an inclusionist, like most Emperors were, and even he thought Galerius's heavyhanded-ness was coarse and brutal but the fact of the matter was that Christians weren't interested in being included, they wanted sole ownership of faith and everything not Christian was heresy and paganism and couldn't be tolerated. Galerius was right to read into Christianity as becoming a rival power to the Augusti by propagating dioceses, a rival spiritual government (the bishops) that was working its own agenda instead of that of the Empire. Christianity at the time of Diocletian was a subversive nest of malcontents, which Galerius handled in the only way he knew how, realized later he'd done fucked up, and terminated his pograms of his own accord.

>He turned the Principate into a godlike position (during life) out of necessity.
Which worked as long as he and Maxentius were the two Augusti. Then Constantine fucks it all up by becoming sole Augustus, refuses to follow the Diocletian model, and died splitting the Empire into three parts between his ridiculous sons and thinking it's all going to be hunky dory, which instead plunged it all into civil war. Fuck Constantine.
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>>93709516
Are you that one fag who keeps posting pictures of Aphra with cartoonishly huge hips?
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>>93710981
>you could argue that Christianity would never get as far as it did
I'm not seeing a downside to that, Abrahamic religions are like herpes.
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>>93711234
The history books I've read puts Galerius as a snake in the garden.
The guy who put nepotism and personal gain over the sake of the Empire that led to more corruption

And yeah, I agree. Fuck Constantine.
The fact that Diocletian kills himself is one of history's greatest sad moments
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>>93711104
Don't worry, I'm sure the new Star Trek series will figure a way to make Klingons even worse.

So both warrior races will be equally shit going forward.
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>>93711303
>the new Star Trek series will figure a way to make Klingons even worse.
I'm sure they'll fuck up everything. It looks so terrible.

By the by, why hasn't there been a live action Star Wars show?
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>>93711342
kotor
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Luther the wise?
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>>93711269
t. varg
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>>93710762
Cosmic Force is God
Living Force is the Holy Spirit
Wellspring of Life is Eden
Anakin is Jesus/Buddha
Jedi are Priests
People like Chirrut, Jyn, and Leia who meditate while not being force sensitive enough to be Jedi are Christians
Sith used to be Muslims circa the Crusades but are now like some Satanist Illuminati cult
Force spirits are Saints
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>>93711342
Wasn't there going to be one set between PT and OT, dealing with the church of the force with Ron Moore slated to work on it?

That show, if I'm remembering it right, has got to be one of the great what-ifs of history. Alongside Tetrarchs not fucking everything up as soon as dad hands over the keys.
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>>93711342
>I'm sure the new Star Trek series will figure a way to make Klingons even worse.

Guess what? they already have
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>>93711380
It's not a story the jesuits would tell you
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>>93711380
>I thought not. It’s not a story the Vatican would tell you. It’s a Protestant legend. Darth Luther was a German Christian, so powerful and so wise he could use the Faith to influence the people to create religion… He had such a knowledge of God, that he could even keep the faith he cared about from dying.
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>>93711342
Oh it is. Lead is a legit Mary Sue, Literally. Adopted by Sarek and is the most important person in the universe.

George was kicking the idea around awhile back before he sold it off. But again it kept circling around to Boba Fett adventures.

Like with 1313 when they decided to redo the whole project into a game about him. Fucking thing would have been finished if not for that.
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>>93711447
Is it possible to learn this power?
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>>93711419
I could live with that sort of change, but it's everything else that I hate.
The character sound like shit.
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>>93711470
Not from a papist.
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>>93711470
Not from a Padre.
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>>93711419
Oh yes I've seen it. That and the Klingon Cathedral Ships. They are supposedly an ancient offshoot of them or something that want war.
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>>93711457
George's last days had some funky moments
Like when he killed the Darth Maul game in order to include Talon
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>>93711486
>>93711502
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I love how before Return of the Jedi it is commonly accepted that it isn't possible to turn back to the light side but Anakin proves it when he saves Luke. I wonder if it was intentionally similar to Jesus allowing sins to be forgiven when he was crucified. It kind of makes me hope that Kylo Ren is redeemed.
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>>93711504
There was an episode of Voyager that literally had that plot
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>>93711475

Just watch The Orville over on fox for as long as it'll be on. Early reviews have pretty much nailed it as Galaxy Quest the Series.
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>>93711299
Score Mommsen's A History of Rome Under the Emperors sometime. Cuts through the tremendous amount of shit the Christians heaped over Galerius. He still fucked up, no question there, but the Edict of Toleration published several weeks before his death speaks in no uncertain terms what the intended purpose of the persecutions was, and that was to end the crazy divisiveness the Christians had been tearing the Empire apart with.
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>>93711553
Star Wars has always been very Christian.
Probably part of the reason why it hit America by a storm.

But yeah, I hope that Kylo is redeemed.

And I hold out a hope that Rey falls
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>>93711553
The PT has sooooo many Anakin/Jesus parallels that, if it wasn't, I'd almost believe it retroactively informed the prequels' plot.
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>>93711527
And yet things became even darker so we're back to using all his ideas to compartmentalize and mitigate all of Abrams garbage.
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>>93711553
That's literally the point. Keep in mind Emperor Palpatine is a direct allegory for Satan. Anakin's redemption after all the evil he committed evokes the infinitely forgiving aspect of God; true remorse and repentance absolutely can wash away a lifetime of guilt and sin. That's the message of ROTJ.
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>>93711553
Everything related to the Force in the OT is the weird aftermath of a high-speed collision between Taoism and Christianity. It's all a kind of hodge-podge that doesn't necessarily make the most sense if you pick at it too closely. This comes out most prominently when we talk about the Dark Side. What IS the Dark Side, in relation to the rest of the Force? The answer has noticeably changed over the years.
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>>93711589
Rey has a greater capacity for hate due to abandonment issues.

Kylo never had the capacity for jack shit other than daddy issues and was just a pawn.

Benny gets kicked to the curb when Rey goes Rage Mode and tries to kill Luke.
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>>93701301
Is that a broadsword lightsaber? Who uses that thing?
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>>93711527
Really though, I can totally see why George would want them in the same game. She's visually just a Twi'lek Maul.
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>>93711160
>Mando Sues
Is this Karen Traviss doing?
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>>93711585
I'll look it up.

I have to say that the 4th century is among my favourite in history.
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>>93711527
What game?
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>>93707738
someone needs to make a gas the jews version
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On the off-chance any of the theologybros in the thread haven't seen this yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO3YRlNLqCM
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>>93711726
There was a Darth Maul game in the mid 2000s.
It got pretty far (you can google the in progress videos)
But George showed up in the office and saw a Darth Talon figurine and was like "Hmmm... She's his friend, right? And she fights next to him?"
No one had the balls to say "No, she's from the far future", so they scrapped their release date and tried to remake the game to include her
But they didn't do it fast enough and got cancelled.
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>>93701578
Art?
thrawn.jpg
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>>93711802
Classic Zizek
>Zis ding you like? Eet ish evilsh *sniffs*

But he's right in part with the Star Wars universe.
The Jedi became total jerks with their "The Force and the Order are Number One, no matter what" dogma
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>>93711536
We need to use Backstroke of the West memes in more situations.
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>>93711868
I looked it up. From what I understand it would have completely broke the continuity of the EU. Who thought it was a good idea?
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>>93712088
George did
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>>93712088
>From what I understand it would have completely broke the continuity of the EU.
Not as badly as you might think- their solution was that this all took place during the Legacy era and Maul was either a ghost or had been preserved in suspended animation all that time. The bigger issue was that everything from Legacy would've been redesigned, leading to stuff like Darth Krayt looking absolutely nothing like he did in the comics.

I mean the whole idea was awful and it's clear the team didn't know what they were doing, but it wouldn't have broken the EU anymore than it already was.
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>>93712144
Oh, that expailns a lot. But why couldn't they just use the designs from the comics? Not that I care, never gave a damn about anything from NJO era onwards, including Legacy. I just don't get why would they go to the effort of preserving Maul for a century to make sure Talon remains in her ""canonical"" era only to create continuity issues by other means.
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>>93712144
>I mean the whole idea was awful and it's clear the team didn't know what they were doing, but it wouldn't have broken the EU anymore than it already was.
This is a time you can blame George.

The first idea was that it was a Clone Wars game.
George made that impossible
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>>93712134
No he didn't. He's notorious for not caring what the EU did.

Now had this been after the purge, I'm sure he would have clarified he was joking at some point and told them to get their act together. As that game looked horrendous.
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>>93712329
They should have kept it a CW era game and just retconned Talon's origins to make her the one frozen until Legacy instead.
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>>93712342
>. As that game looked horrendous.
It didn't.
It looked like a casual hack and slash.
Which is fine.
Not every game needs to be KotOR.

George killed it with his casual inclusion of Talon
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They should bring Talon into canon just to finally have her and Maul meet. Not as a Sith, of course, but maybe as a fallen Jedi, or an Inquisitor or something.
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>>93712329
>This is a time you can blame George.
The problem with this is that they took an offhand suggestion as a mandate. He never actually made them include Talon, much less change the entire storyline. They were under the impression that because he said it they absolutely had to do it without realizing he doesn't really care that much about licensed stuff.
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>>93712467
they did that with the maul comic, except shes turquoise
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>>93712404
>It didn't.
Oh yes it did.
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>>93712404
I'm sorry, but I'm one of those people where the story need to make sense. It's why I struggle with TFA.
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>>93712323
The team working on this was not very smart.
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>>93712493
My god. Do you think it possible? Could they go that far?
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>>93712484
It's funny that the same people that love to use this story as an example of Lucas's tyrannical attitude also like to use the "Darth Icky" story as an example of his stupid ideas without realizing that one invalidates the first one because the TFU team obviously disregarded his suggestion.
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>>93712547
I think it was less that they weren't smart and more that they were kind of naive. They weren't used to working with such a huge client and the impression I got when I read the story was that they were really afraid of stepping on toes. Even if Lucas didn't mean it as an order, they took it as one because I think they didn't feel they had enough clout to say no.
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>>93712404
I kinda hope Talon comes back. She was on the table for TFA
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>>93713028
How does a total slut like that still have ear horn covers?

Also has the Captcha been INSANELY specific recently?
Fuck captcha
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So what exactly is that armor that Darth Kryat wears? Is it important to his past or something like Darth Bane's bug armor?
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>>93713103
They're sand trout from Arrakis.
They allow him to move very fast and also see the future
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>>93713099
>setting
>legacy captcha
problem solved
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>>93713573
>>93713573
>>93713573
>>93713573

NEW
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>>93713580
Too soon. They make a desensitizing cream that could help you with that, anon.
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>>93712404
>this dumbfuck meme about Talon again
I am sick to death of hearing this bullshit. You clearly have no idea how videogame development works, and you are just as retarded as the shitty developers for spreading that "George ruined the game" bullshit
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>>93712602
It wasn't even a real suggestion. Both Icky and Talon were obviously jokes, but people will blame Lucas wherever they can.

I saw a video that went viral a few months ago talking about cancelled Star Wars games, and almost every one of them was baseless lies and accusations of "George did stupid shit that ruined the development"

Thats why you've seen lots of idiots spreading that shit around lately
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