The Flash

I'm listening.

God, please no.

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>Starting with time travel
Must we? Unless its about bringing in Jay Garrick I'd rather not. If its Thawne then they're blowing their load early

>DC's Spider-Man
Why are executives so delusional?
>A gazillion dollars for sinister six movie
Seriously is Feige the only reasonable guy in the cape industry?

>>93674591
>Seriously is Feige the only reasonable guy in the cape industry?

Basically. He's one of the few to have probably risen up the ranks genuinely. Most of the rest(Especially those like Pascal) only got to where they are through nepotism.

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Grahame-Smith wrote two drafts of the script, based on Lord and Miller's treatment, which he turned in on November 2015 and later March 2016. His drafts borrowed a bit from the TV series, and featured the Zoom as the villain.

The plot centers on Barry investigating the murders of several scientists. He finds out they were connected to a secret government program to use a machine to harness the Speed Force, but the machine malfunctioned and exploded, turning Barry into the Flash. The scientists are now being targeted by another speedster, who turns out to be one of the researchers involved in the project, Eobard Thawne.

In his version, Thawne comes from the future and is obsessed with the Speed Force, but hates Barry and wants to replace him as the fastest man alive. After uncovering Barry's secret identity, he he travels back in time, murders Barry's mother, frames his father and spends 15 years psychologically undermining Barry so that when they fight, Barry is weak. He then infiltrated the government program and arranged for the machine to explode so it also turns him into a speedster. He needed Barry to become the Flash as well to ensure that the Flash's existence leads to him learning about the Speed Force in the future, but plans to steal Barry's speed so he can use the Speed Force to reshape history to his image.

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Barry and Thawne end up travelling through time, and find out they were both created by paradoxes: Thawne became obsessed with Speed Force in the future because of the experiment, whIich he pretty much created in the past, and Barry became the Flash because of Thanwe so he can't prevent Thawne from killing his mother or he doesn't become the Flash and the world gets destroyed. Barry manages to defeat Thawne by removing his speed and exposing his crimes, so he's arrested and Barry's father is freed.

In the first draft, Iris West meets Barry because her father is one of the scientists murdered by Thawne and she's also investigating. Jay Garrick is the scientist who first discovered the Speed Force and mentors Barry until Thawne kills him, and David Singh is the Central City Police Captain. Three new characters were added, Barry's friend and fellow forensic scientist Kyle Rhodes; Barry's workplace rival, hotshot Detective Adam Cruz; and Iris' editor Amanda Shaw. Cyborg made a cameo appearance.

From what I've been told, WB liked the script aside from minor issues, and the revisions done to the second draft were mostly to scale down the action scenes due to budget. The biggest change storywise was scrapping the Iris' subplot, which felt superfluous, and turning her into Barry's childhood friend who helps in the investigation. Kyle Rhodes was cut because of this, and Amanda Shaw's role was reduced.

WB didn't believe that Grahame-Smith could do the project justice since he had no experience with blockbusters and the movie's action scenes would be very expensive nevertheless, particularly the final battle in which Barry and Thawne would fight throughout different places and time periods like ancient Rome and World War II. So Grahame-Smith left the project in April 2016 and WB hired Famuyiwa to replace him in May.

>>93674504
>>93674825
Why did you post this twice? Why does role playing as an insider get your peepee hard?

>>93674863
So... What forced the page 1 rewrite?

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WB expected Famuyiwa to work off of Grahame-Smith's script, but Famuyiwa wanted to go a different direction and wrote his own draft with Captain Cold as the villain. It was a darker and grittier approach, less high-concept sci-fi and more street-level crime film. Central City is a crime-ridden place (apparently described as "Gotham with worse weather" at one point) controlled by mobster Jack Monteleone. Barry solves cold cases as a CSI and prevents crimes as the Flash, but wants to do more. He's also been working with Cyborg to find out how to travel back in time again and save his mother, who was murdered 15 year prior (more on that later).

Leonart Snart and Lisa Snart are thieves who are hired by Monteleone to steal some documents. Monteleone betrays them and Lisa gets shot and ends up in a coma, so Snart swears revenge on Monteleone. The Flash intervenes so Snart steals the cold gun from S.T.A.R. Labs to stop him from interfering with his plans.

Meanwhile, Barry's mentor, Detective Fred Chyre, who looked after Barry after his mother's death, is arrested for shooting an unarmed teenager while drunk. Barry suspects that Chyre has been framed and begins investigating alongside Iris and Chyre's partner, Jared Morillo. They eventually finds out Chyre was investigating corrupt cops working for Monteleone, and that the documents that Monteleone hired Snart to steal were the evidence Chyre had compiled. Monteleone's men locate and kill Lisa, causing Snart to kill Monteleone and his men as well as several cops and bystanders in an attack on Monteleone, and Iris is killed by Morillo after finding out he's the ringleader of the corrupt cops and framed Chyre so he wouldn't be exposed by the investigation.

>>93675104
Is this the BLM flash movie that got dropped?

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When Barry finds Iris death, he succeeds in travelling back in time and saves Iris and Lisa, and exposes Morillo and Monteleone with some help from Cyborg. Snart gets arrested before innocents are hurt. Barry and Iris get together, Chyre is reinstated to the police (and hints to knowing that Barry is the Flash) and the Flash earns Snart's respect by saving Lisa. Snart then alludes to assembling a new crew to take over the city.

Barry's mother's death is a minor subplot with big implications. Thawne exists and appears able to alter peoples' memories. Barry's father doesn't remember anything leading up to waking up covered in his wife's blood, and believes he's guilty, but Barry is convinced that he's not. Barry also has recurring nightmares with a red-eyed demon that he realizes when he finally time travels are actually fragmented memories. Thawne appears in a post-credits scene, reading a newspaper about the Flash's heroism and mentioning their encounter is near.

The script also alludes to several Rogues, with Mick Rory and Axel Walker being referenced, and Sam Scudder appearing as a fixer working for Monteleone who helps Morillo set up Chyre. The cold gun is also created by Clyde Mardon as part of his experiments with weather, and he mentions his criminal brother too. Hunter Zolomon also shows up as a D.A. helping Chyre's investigation.

Famuyiwa turned in his draft on August 2016. It was not what WB was expecting or looking for after Batman V Superman was badly-received, and they asked for a retool of the whole concept. Famuyiwa and the studio heads went back and forth for a few weeks, and when it became clear they weren't seeing eye to eye on what the project needed, Famuyiwa dropped out on October 2016.

>>93675258
What's the problem with that script?

>>93675104
>>93675258
I actually like this except for Lisa and Iris dying/getting saved and Central CIty being "Gotham with bad weather".
That idea for a post-credits scene would be so hype too.

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WB delayed the project so that Joby Harold could do a page one rewrite with advice from Geoff Johns and Jon Berg. They want a veteran director to helm the movie, and they've approached guys like Matthew Vaughn, Sam Raimi and Francis Lawrence, but who they really want is Robert Zemeckis, and apparently he's interested in it if they can make the schedule work. So it's done a done deal but things are looking good.

All I know of this new draft is that the Rogues are the villains (Captain Cold, Heatwave, Mirror Master and Weather Wizard) and that they're being made into a rogue military unit armed with weapons stolen from the government, and are described as "multiethnic".

>>93675395
>rogue military unit

And into the trash it goes.

>>93675395
>>93675540
>multiethnic rogue military unit
garbage. disney's approach has bled over to DC.

>>93675104
>>93675258
this sounds like a neat concept. if real this would have been an interesting way to lay the foundation for several flash films.

awful

Frankly, most of these sound like really shitty action movies. There's nothing to differentiate ANY of these ideas from something like PUSH or JUMPER, or anything along those lines. With the exception of the speed (which is really no longer that unique of a hook, given Quicksilver), these all sound like the makings of shitty movies: (a) Grahame-Smith's version picks up way to much from Johns canon about Barry's father being in prison and his mother being killed as the motivation for Barry's super-heroism. It also really replicates a great deal of the over-all season 1 arc of the TV show and in that sense, it's a mistake in the same way that redoing the Uncle Ben's death in TAMS1 from SM1, even if they changed the circumstances of the crime/criminal.

I'd prefer they go back to whatever Lord and Miller had in mind. WB can get Zemeckis to direct BLACK ADAM featuring Billy Batson's first day of kindergarten cameo.

>>93675395
How interesting that the most recent script is the only one you don't know about and the one detail you do know about is the only one that was leaked a few weeks ago.

And by interesting I mean you're full of shit and also a faggot.

>>93674419
>they can turn the Flash into DC's Spider-Man
This is where you fucked up.

Now that Johns seems to have some actual power/influence he would've told them how stupid that idea was.

>>93675540
>>93675649
>multiethnic rogue military unit

I see nothing wrong with it. Bunch of former jarheads robbing banks with stolen tech? Sounds entirely fine. And apart from Mirror Master McCulloch, who's Scottish, nothing about them really says they have to be white.

>>93675395
This sounds like the worst concept of the 3 by far. Why would they go with this?

>>93677942

What do you mean, worst.

They ALL sound like shit, average movies.

>>93674591
I could see a Rogues movie working, if it was an Ocean's Eleven style heist movie.

>>93674419
Why do people still fall for these LARPing threads?

>>93678927
Because they're interesting, if nothing else. It'll be some time before we get any kind of solid info, so why not?

>>93677399
Anon you said "(a)" as if you were going to list multiple points but but (b) never came....

>>93679009

Yeah, sorry! I realized I didn't even want to tear apart the Captain/Lisa concept.

I do think a Rogue's story would work well, but I would prefer they adapt something silver age-y and do an origin of the Rogues (with a bit of Barry, and spare us the Nora and Henry BS, we have enough of that shit with Bruce).

I'd like to see a Barry that's more of the flavor of the JL/JLU incarnation since we're never going to get Wally (and no, Wally's not "mah Flash" - I just think it would have made more sense IF they wanted to go with younger, and considering Grant Gustin/DCW, to have used the character: Wally).

>>93678927
It's more fun than shit posting about movies or how marvels gone down the drain or how muh SJWs/pol/ for 1000th time