/hyw/ - How's Your Webcomic? #383

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>>93663909
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
calligraphr.com

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on:
https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

Trying to think of ways for a burgeoning Empire to maintain order and control over a very large amount of territory acquired in a very short amount of time.

So far I have the following.

>No taxes
>Instant citizenship
>Military occupation
>Incredibly harsh punishments for rebelling
>Taking the children of important officials from the conquered territory and holding them as hostages.


Any other ideas?

>>93664196
stomach fat

>>93664196
>Taking the children of important officials from the conquered territory and holding them as hostages.

Make that even better, go full Janissaries with them.

>They began as an elite corps of slaves made up of kidnapped young Christian boys who were forced to convert to Islam, and became famed for internal cohesion cemented by strict discipline and order. Unlike typical slaves, they were paid regular salaries. Forbidden to marry or engage in trade, their complete loyalty to the Sultan was expected.

>>93664431
what?

>>93664490
>go full Janissaries with them.
I'd love to do that but the story only takes place over 4 years. Not enough time to fully raise and integrate children into an elite class.


Also, the Janissaries were a mistake

>>93663909
my sides
>>93664196
It helps if the conquered territory happens to be backwards and/or extremely peaceful. That's how it has tended to work in real life, the few times it has worked
i like the idea of not taxing them though so basically they have no reason to give any fucks about being conquered. but then the question becomes WHY conquer them

>>93664525
You could play with it by making them just starting the process, which would also make a bigger impact than just having them hostages. People would be more fearful, as nobody wants their children to be taken away to be brainwashed and turned into slave soldiers later. That and early-stages of that are not as common in fiction, you see the end product instead.

Sorry if I'm getting too ahead with this, I'm a bit of a sadistic storyteller.

>>93664494
Not that anon but I must admit when I first read "burgeoning" I thought of burgers so maybe the anon did that conection too.

>>93664580
Don't worry. I like this alot.

So my webcomic-to-be is shaping up nicely, but I'm at a loss as to hosting.

I don't want it to be like other webcomics where you read a page, click, read a page, click, etc. The panels on my pages are pretty large and graphical, so clicking is going to be tedious and immersion-breaking. What I'd like is to have the pages for each "scene" (like a movie scene, I guess) laid out centered on the page all in one big column, and you just scroll to the bottom, where you click the link to the next scene.

It's been awhile since I've dabbled in any sort of webhosting or sitebuilding myself. Is WordPress or Tumblr something I should look at (with templates that can help me achieve what I've described above), or am I better off building it from scratch in basic HTML? It seems doable but if there's a better way, I'd like to do it.

>>93664726
Well you're in luck, that's the way most hosts are going now. It's fucking stupid EXCEPT for comics like yours, that are meant to be read in one long vertical scroll
That said, Tapastic still sucks because it forces your comic off to one side while the other side has a uselessly glitchy navigation column, and the right has useless and also glitchy overlays..
You might as well go with Webtoons, where the only problem is how ugly and uneditable the site colors are.. but everything else is just fine for what you want

>>93664726
Maybe I'm reading your example wrong but to me it sounds like infinite canvas/webtoon format? If so, WebToons and Tapastic are pretty much hosting sites designed especially for those kind of formats, even if their layouts are not really the best.

As of Wordpress, I think the ComicPress theme can be adapted to it I think, is just a matter of playing with the code. Can't really talk about Tumblr's theme but I know Tumblr is a bitch when it comes to a huge pic in one post.

>>93664494
one way for a burger-ning empire to maintain control

>>93665102
Damn you Carlos!

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>>93665102

>>93664819
>>93664726

I use Wordpress with ComicPress on my site, and you can do multi-page posts easily enough, reading in a column. You won't really be able to have a double-page spread, but then not many websites do that anyway (so this is an advantage a purely print publication has).

I've never had any problems with Tapas, but I read it on desktop, not mobile. The pages aren't so much "forced off to one side" as just off centre; the left side has a narrow info/navigation coulmn, and the strips are centred in the rest of the space.
Tapas is better with "smaller" pages, such as you'd see in an 8"x6" GN or A5 'zine. It's less suited to an e.g. A4 sized bande dessinee album page.

I'd suggest looking at WordPress/ComicPress on your own site, as the most convenient in terms of customisability. Tapas and other hosting sites are the easiest to use, but you're stuck with their branding. Hand coding HTML would be the most tedious and time consuming option.

>>93664568
>But then the question becomes WHY conquer them

Because they can of course!
Well some examples from life sometimes when is just not for resources (or a hidden macguffin) is because the territory has access to trading roads or other strategic location.

>>93666125
This.

When Rome conquered Greece they made soo much money from Trade Ports that they went 5 years without anyone paying taxes.

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Lettering.
How do?

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Since the other thread died so soon I'll repost

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>>93666578
I like it.

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>>93666578
That's cute, but the side view looks a bit square, maybe round it up a bit to bring it more in line of her other views?

Did some work on a collabe, here is the original version

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>>93666895
Here is the current version.

>>93666202
okay but were the local people living at those ports not making more money off of them before? that's still a kind of a tax

>>93667160
I dunno about that. It's not like there are annual income records for that time period.

>>93667193
i mean basically there's no way to give and take at the same time unless you're engaging in a free market, or boosting the civilization level of a lesser civ

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Is it weird I'm making a map for my comic's setting? I'm a huge /tg/ nerd and it is a fantasy comic, after all.

>>93667989
it's a little weird not to. You're gonna wanna know what's near what and what's on the way to what

>>93667989
World-building is fine, but don't forget about actually having a story.

>>93668060
Learn from Boulet:
http://english.bouletcorp.com/2005/01/07/bears-penguins/

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>>93667989
I'm a big sucker for these kind of things and also author notes/sketches. pic related
>can't find the colored ver i made

speaing of which, i almost have done an artbook/sketchbook with a big deal of sketches, notes and concept art. im planning on giving it in pdf for free with my physical books or something low like $2 but the question is if some of you has got these kind of art files and what do you expect from a comic artist/illustrator.

>>93668031
>>93668060
Yeah, I'm definitely trying to balance the two. I actually kind of came up with the main points of the story before I really thought too much about the setting. I want the characters to feed into the setting and vice versa as I build it up.
>>93668164
I laughed, but it's such an easy trap to fall into.

>>93668302
>anterra
whoa zat you?

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>>93668538
you mean me Me? yush.

I was supposed to start updating the site with a special few pages that go before chapter 1 and then go full on with ch. 8 but time is getting sucked out of me with small things I should have done long ago, at least i'm full on getting out of the hiatus zone now before i have to make a one month trip in september.

thinking in typing the stuff in spanish then in english is for now the only bane of my existence.

anyone got an artstation? im trying to settle between it, tumblr or behance.

>>93668758
alright well i'm moving your bookmark back into the folder I check every day!

>>93669064
Could you link me? That looks like some cool stuff is happening that I wanf to check out evdn if I don't speak Spanish.

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>>93666236
Use your own handwriting or download a font like anime ace
also what software are you using?

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>>93669103
got your back, english version with fewer gram errors towards more recent chapters brought to you by coldfusion.

anterrachronicles.com link is still in the pastebin last i checked.

don't know if he still posts around but i'm hoping he may still be willing to help me with that. I still have to type the whole english vers tho and that's what usually stalls the updates a bit.

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First page of West Tree: Part 2 is now finished!

>>93666236
Try to imitate the way some brands do their lettering-ish names and go with that. Or imitate some really over-the-top cursive.

>>93669300
Still here. Still happy to proofread if you need it. My obsessive, anal nature has to come in handy for something.

>>93669302
it's "too" meaning also not "to"
sorry

>>93667989
World building is nice and in fact having a map for your own story/setting adds a lot of value both to the lore and the storytelling, since that way you can get a better grasp of how much distance is between towns and the like.

Do you guys ever release content you're not necessarily proud of? Sounds like a silly question but I feel like releasing a so-so comic idea may be cathartic in a way (ideally you'd release stuff you like, even if it turns out to suck)

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What do you think about this creature design? Is it spooky?

It's a sentient man-sized maggot, it wears black armor and carries a sword and generally has the appearance of a knight. The fanged mouth is usually hidden behind a kind of muzzle plate. When the armor is destroyed or the creature injured it can 'eject' and quickly burry underground. For the color scheme I want the black of the armor to clash with the albino white skin of the maggot.
I really like this character but I'm worried the design might be a bit too sinister for the kind of comic I want to do...

>>93669756
They can't all be winners, but lately I find that I'm in a place where I only have to spend about 10-20% longer on a bad comic before I think of a cheeky fix that makes it at least okay

>>93669756
Not with comics per se but there have been some requests I have done for a friends that are not really something that make me proud because I feel like I could have done better or I just don't like how it turned out, and yet seems those are the ones the people love the most for some reason.

It may not always be the case, but with comics it can be different because even if you have a weak start, you can learn asap and make the next strips/pages better until you get the pacing and overall cosnistence that makes you proud.

>>93669947
it's a little spooky but the beady little eyes are kind of cute.
I looked up real maggots just to see what they look like and the ones i found just have adorable googly eyes

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I already asked in the last thread but didn't really get a helpful answer.

I have this silly webcomic: https://foxandcatadventures.tumblr.com/
It makes me no money since the two main characters are obviously not made by me so the comic is one of my lowest priorities (I get money from making music, writing and painting). I can barely scrape the time together to get three panels out per week since that is what I promised everyone.
How can I speed up the pace of my story while still releasing the same amount of panels? Are there general tricks for that? Is there literature on storytelling in comics? Apart from Shaun Tan, Junji Ito and Shintaro Kago I have no real experience with comics/manga.

>>93670000
I find beady little eyes extremely spooky. They just seem so soulless and devoid of any sympathy - like some people probably feel about cat eyes.
I'm also one of the few people who loved the eyes on shin godzilla, I think it was extremely creepy but it's mostly considered silly and distracting.

>>93670224
>the two main characters are obviously not made by me
say what?
3 panels is not enough time to get story across any faster, unless you're having panels where nothing is happening

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oh shit. saw this thread literally a second after I made an entire topic so I'll just repost this here.

>I'm confident amateur writer who grew up on Marvel and DC and cartoons
>Friend has a lot of experience drawing and grew up on anime and manga
>Both of us decided to try and write a comic

This is just a casual project we're treating as a hobby but the more I work on it, the more questions pop up.

>What are some youtube channels/podcasts that can teach me about what goes into a good panel/panel layouts?
>What are the pros and cons of Japanese manga vs. Western comics?
>When/if we finish this, what should we do with it since we're interested in posting it online?

Summary of the plot coming in the next post

>>93670259

My friend and I are both big fans of real life martial arts, battle shonen, and great action movies so we decided to use this comic as a way to celebrate all these things.

In the universe everyone has an energy/aura/chi that can be trained to make the body stronger/faster/more durable than normal. The goal is to find a power level that resembles feats that are feasible(if not slightly exaggerated) to do in real life, rather than super powers. Like...punching/tackling someone through a wall, getting hit by a car and walking it off, and punching a dent in a metal pole without breaking your hand.

>The premise
An ancient chinese group of villains steal people's souls to make themselves stronger. An order of monks have always fought them. 50ish years ago a monk follows a group of soul stealers to America. He meets a hotheaded boxer and beats him in a fight. After teaching the boxer about the power of energy/aura/chi they create an organization that trains fighters/athletes that also hunt the soul stealers. The story follows 4 main highschool boys

>A guy based off of a classic American bad-boy/jock/bully. The adamant hot-head that trains honestly, fights to prove he's strong, and favors aggressive striking martial arts like Muay Thai.

>A short, chubby nerd that trains to practice discipline, inner peace and self confidence. Favors more meditation/counter oriented fighting styles like Tai Chi and Judo. He's also the person that explains and points out what's happening to the audience.

>A tall, skinny weirdo that doesn't speak much. Trains because because he thinks it's just so god damn fun seeing what he can do. Favors flashy or "fake" fighting styles like Capoeira, and WWE moves.

>A guy that's a walking amalgamation of anime tropes. Too cool to train, has "amazing natural talent" thinks he's the best but also believes in the power of friendship. His increase in skill comes from power boosts.

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>>93670259
Welcome to the world of webcomics!
>paneling
Dunno about any youtube channels/podcasts on webcomic making actually. I found the best way to get better at paneling is just by testing it out. Paneling involves eye movement and emphasis. Some dude named Yarbus did an experiment on eye tracking, so I tried to make a comic based on what he asked people to do. Sorry for the shit quality.
As an example - your character is daydreaming/zoning out, their friend comes up them
>establish that your friend is unfocused
one of the most telling factors that someone is zoning out is their blank stare, emphasize the eyes.
>introduce the friend
are they gonna try to scare the MC? a panel of the friend jumping on the MC, make it fairly large since there's a lot of action going on.
are they tired of MC's shit and just wanna get his attention? word bubble with their name, large font, panel of the friend's face with a somewhat irritated look.
>why did MC need to pay attention?
friend explains that they're starting the event soon, whatever it may be.
>MC is somewhat embarrassed for being caught off guard
no face shots, MC is looking away from their friend, probably a panel of their shoes indicating that MC can't look their friend in the eye

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i have a new webcomic that i just made and its on deviantart https://nastymcoutplays.deviantart.com/

>>93670259
>pros/cons of manga
There are a lot more resources, like tutorials, and a huge variety of manga to expose concepts for your story. Cons - over-saturation, you will need a unique quirk (story, art, medium) to really separate yourself from the others. You might be tempted to fall into anime tropes.

>pros/cons of western comics
You can get by with simplistic styling more easily, I'd say western comics are more experimental and therefore allow more room for creativity. Webcomics are really quite niche though, it'll take a while for you to build a following.

>posting it online
The author's goodiebag in the second post has a really good guide about it. You can pay to host your own website, put advertisements on it, and make some money. It's more advantageous to backlog pages and then update them weekly. This will cause most people to continuously check back for updates. But start on a regular comic hosting site, and then slowly ween people off to your website.

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Really need to rework the middle panel. But I'm happy about the first and last panel here.

>>93671453
shiiiit this is turning out a lot better than it was before, and it was already good. I can really follow the hand thing now

>>93671453
Panel 2 and 3 look weird in combination. In 2 the right eye is uncovered but in 3 it looks as it from the POV the left eye is seeing it.

>>93671552
Ok, I was worried about that. Did this when the finger over his nose was closer to his eye than the other finger.

I'll throw in more black in the right finger then less in the left finger in panel 3.

>>93671552
>it looks as it from the POV the left eye is seeing it.
in what way? This is something I should learn so I don't do the same, but I don't see the error

>>93671646
Imagine being the person in panel 3 and this is your whole field of vision. The right half of your vision is blocked by a finger. Yet in panel 2 it shows that it is the left eye that is blocked by a finger.

>>93669280
Are there any fonts similar to Anime Ace that are free to use commercially?

>>93671646
>>93671671

Basically I need to put more shadow in the right finger and less in the left to give a better fell of him looking out his right eye. I could make it to where the hand is making his head turn to his left and so the eye looking a little more to his right at the monster, I think, in order for the last panel to work.

>>93669302
You'd be better off making porn than whatever you actually draw/write.

>>93671671
>The right half of your vision is blocked by a finger.
it is? it looks to me like it could be either eye. we obviously aren't seeing the entire 4:3 FOV, we're seeing just one eye's worth, which is why it's 1:1

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I'd work on my webcomic or concept if I had the motivation and confidence in myself. I've been in a bit of a block for some time and can't be bothered most of the time to even practice even more without it feeling like a chore.
What happened? I used to love drawing and busting out stupid shit....

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I'm still gathering courage to start a Patreon and struggling to figure out what kind of incentives I can give patrons, but what about goals?

I didn't think about it until recently but I should probably have nice, reasonable goals set to make people feel like they're giving money for good reason beyond any Patron incentives, right?

What kind of milestones should I have?
A lot? Just a few?
I mean my REAL goal is to be completely sustained by my comic, which I think will be nice and easy at like 2K a month or so, or is that gonna look too "greedy" as a goal?

Man fuck my anxiety over stupid petty little things like this.

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>>93663909
I'm trying to develop my main characters, a goblinoid, a human, a lizardman and a golem. So I practiced drawing the two women together and a bunch of expressions for the goblin, as I draw her from one direction every time I raw her.

>>93671818
best goal I can think of is you update the comic sooner because you got paid so much you could call it however many hours it takes for you to do one.. with.. that pay per hour

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>>93671977
Faces

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>>93672005
And I'm not sure if I showed this but I colored my oldeking

>>93672005
hahaha, nice! we should all do expressions like that
>>93672028
many times, but I like it each time

>>93672005
>that ahegao

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Spinoff comic is almost done. Excited to have the finish line in sight.

>>93671762
You mean you actually like my lewd drawings? That's a surprise, whenever I draw lewds people just tell me to stick to my comic.

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>>93673286
I'm a filthy degenerate. I'm not good at criticism so all I can say about your comic is that I'm very uninterested in it, (but I'm really picky anyway,) but tits and throbbing twink boners appeal to me in almost any artstyle.

Take from that what you will.

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>>93663909
>How's your webcomic?
Bad.
Well, not technically a webcomic, but I plan on getting it scanned someday.
I tried to show some hand-inked pages (I don't have an scanner nor a wacom) to my classroom (partially to skip an assignment) just to get shit because the story is about a man who is in a quest (along with a group of people) for his disappeared father after he escaped from his abusive mother.

Apparently, a man looking for another man is a waste of time because men are expendable and unimportant.
Also, presenting women as abusive towards men is unrealistic and misogynistic for some reason that's beyond me.

Fuck college.

>>93673389
>classroom
well there's your first mistake

>>93673371
I'll just let you enjoy your little sexual fill while I just keep on going with my comic as planned.

>>93669280
>Lettering by hand with a tablet
Using SAI btw.

>>93673389
Don't take their "constructive criticism" to heart. College students are brain washed idiots.

If it's worth anything, I think your premise is pretty interesting. I'd certainly give it a read and give you some feed back.

>>93673407
We are just like 12 people + a teacher.
And, like I said, I only showed it to skip an assignment.
It was a secret until that point.

>>93673389
>Showing anything to college classmates

You pretty much went to the most extremist side of tumblr to show them your stuff. It's not the most objective critic and probably isn't the audience you want for your webcomic neither.

I for one think there needs to be some equality in this. I'm tired of having the mothers as the victims all the time and the fathers being all abusive, so your story sounds worth a reading.

>>93673474
Thanks.
I plan on getting it scanned someday but now I can't.
Plus, it's 30 pages long and I'm planning on correcting some stuff, so it may take a while.

>>93673481
ah yeah I did that once
thankfully it was 2004 and webcomics were still this special new thing, or even having your own website at all, so they didnt care about the content

>>93673573
Good luck anon!

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>>93672813
>Reposting that image before I do it
Thanks anon, here, have another butt!

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>>93674183
is it.. is it butts time?

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>>93674288
Well I'm out of actual butt drawings but here have a sketch

>>93664196
Pretty much all of the methods you listed would result in a revolt that a burgeoning Empire couldn't afford to deal with.

Take a page out of the Roman playbook: vassal them. Allow them to bend the knee and pay regular tithes to the Empire in exchange for a garrison that "protects" them and "helps maintain order". In exchange, the local rulers get to maintain relative autonomy and the populace keep their way of life, while the Empire gets a new tax-paying territory with minimal investment.

And instead of mass-abducting the children of officials, just take a few of-age daughters/sons of the higher ranking officials. Then marry them off to a few sons/daughters of your Empire's officials to cement loyalty.

Conquest 101.

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>>93671552
Okay, so how about when he's look up towards him to his right some? I'll have to redo his hand too to have his fingers line up better for third panel.

>>93674934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7tvauOJMHo

>>93674938
now the shape of the gap between the fingers looks all wrong. Iunno I thought it was fine before

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>>93667989
Most of the time I can not even make a story if I don't have a visual layout for the locations it takes place in. Even if no one else is ever going to know how your world is supposed to look it makes a good reference for you to help move the story along. I love making maps and world building too, so having that aspect really helps me out.

>>93675549
Quick fix.

Mainly wanted to see how it looked with him looking up this way with how it can match to Panel 3.

>>93673424
Sketch the lettering and later do a clean final line as if you were drawing

>>93677059
that sounds like an unnecessary amount of work. I would advocate simply 'sketching' space for the text, with nice parallel lines to keep the letter heights consistent and such. if you need to practice the dialogue first (and you probably do. I do) do it in a separate notepad document

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>>93669756
Yeah actually, like I realize it's horrible half way through but I still power through it finish the other half to even shittier standards and release it
I only peddle smut so it doesn't really matter

>>93675597
My plan right now is to include it as page before the first page of the comic so to speak. I wanna make it look really nice so it provides a sense of place for this whole thing, and so that the reader can go back and look for the names of cities and nations visited or mentioned. I always loved doing that in fantasy novels that had a map after the title page, so I think it would translate to a fantasy comic pretty well.

>>93677774
>that spoiler

share

>>93677822
You could also use the map on a separated tab in the webcomic site too, so people can access it "easier" instead of having to go back to the first page.

Night bump

>>93671741
Blambot.com (as listed in the Scrub Authors Goodie Bag >>93663924 ) has a lot of fonts, designed by a professional comics letterer, that are free and licensed for use in independent comics. Anime Ace is one of them.

>>93669756
As with a lot of art, aim for Finished, not Perfect.

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>>93666578
In the future would you be interested in a twitch stream?

I'm currently working on character designs for some webcomic ideas, But I want to try something else besides my manga anime style I learned from various how to draw books. I tried drawing some other art styles I liked such as copying how they designed characters in old school cartoon shows, but I keep going back to the manga anime stuff, guess its because I'm used to it. How do other people get beter at drawing differantly than they usually draw? Or learn how to draw like artists they admire? Is it good to try and copy there characters designs to learn how to draw like them?

>>93678564
Good idea. I intended to use a Tumblr blog, but maybe an actual wesite would be better. Or can I add a tab to a Tumblr blog that links to just one post? Wait, I probably can if there's a way I can just directly edit the HMTL.

>>93680718
Yes.

>>93680718
Why did you want to try something else? That's kind of important in deciding how to answer this question.
In the end, it's the same style-family as disney, so you can easily refine it into something else if you want.

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just got a wacom and decided to try out an idea I've been bouncing around in my head: Kool Kactus and the Dying Injun. Just posting what I whipped up this morning. Not close to being done. I work in Illustrator but am interested in other programs you guys might use

>>93680769

Partly cause I like various designs and want to try and incorperate some of that stuff into my works, and its also to make sure not all my characters look the same. Trying to avoid the same face syndrome and want to expand the stuff I can draw.

>>93673389
>Also, presenting women as abusive towards men is unrealistic and misogynistic for some reason that's beyond me
My mom is unrealistic.

>>93680718
It's kind of a long path along with the "finding my own style" and "trying more than just manga/cartoon/realistic style" ones. You can draw from life to see some aspects that you can translate to either style (like some anon a few threads ago taught me about cheekbones) and along with that you study artstyles form artists you like, see what aspects you like from them and then either use them with your own or adapt them. With time, practice and a lot of selective elements you will find yourself getting a style you are more comfortable with and avoid being too generic like many manga-style artists out there.

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>>93680845
If you want to avoid same face syndrome between manga artists I could point to Hiromu Arakawa (FullMetal Alchemist) and Naoki Urasawa (Pluto, 20th Century Boys). They both have a lot of unique faces and shapes for their characters whitout making them look like they belong to different styles. There are some others that avoid same-face but those two are the best examples I can think of.

>>93680914
>>93680987

Both of these sound like good advice to follow, thanks for helping me out, I'll check these mangas out sometime.

Drawing from life is still pretty hard for me. I usually find its easier to copy 2d images. But I'll definatly practice more techniques and art styles to improve my skills.

>>93680762
Nevermind, figured it out. Now I just need to finish character designs, finish the map, finish writing character backgrounds and a rough outline of the story, and finally finish the first page.

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Would you read a comic about a military combat unit of magical girls going on missions in an all out war on alien Aggressors?
It will feature lots of /k/ommando babble, cronenberg-esque gore, psychological horror and a sci-fi plot inspired by the works of Stanislaw Lem.

>>93681890
>Would you read a comic about a military combat unit
Yes

>of magical girls
Yes

>going on missions in an all out war on alien Aggressors?
Fucking yes

>It will feature lots of /k/ommando babble, cronenberg-esque gore, psychological horror and a sci-fi plot inspired by the works of Stanislaw Lem.
Oh fuck yes where do I sign?

>>93677822
I like lore bits. I plan on doing it for my comic to help expand my worlds and it helps readers understand more of the concepts easier.

QUICK,


WHAT'S THE ONE PIECE OF LORE/WORLDBUILDING YOU'RE MOST PROUD OF?

>>93680845
So basically what you're trying to do isn't so much to change, but to expand. To add more to your repertoire
Yeah I suggest you just study a bunch of art, and you can do it however you want but maybe draw examples of all the different facial features and arrangements, until you get a handle for what a good range is

>>93681890
Do it anon. Look up Saga of Tanya the Evil. It's not to the extent that you're talking about, but they mix magic with WWI military technology. Might give you some ideas you can play with.

>>93682377
I once had to do a short comic for a class and it was set on a fantasy world with some sort of "chosen families" with superpowers, one family for each country at the time because they were set to protect the peace and what not. So I made both a map and a family tree for each, since a lot of the chosen ones for the rpg-like party were not royalty but mostly just average people. They are lost now but I still remember them fondly.

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A few days ago I have been practicing landscapes, there are many things to learn

>>93682527
Better than anything I could produce

>>93682377
>quick
ack, can't. I know there's a few I've been proud of in between dumb ones, but all I can think of right now is the references to past important adventure parties. I fuckin love those, especially in real games. It gives you ideas about what the prequel would have been like

>>93682377
Coming up with the entire political and administrative structure of a country down to naturalization was fun as fuck.

>>93682042
It's a side project for now but I'm glad you like the concept.

I think Magical Girls is a genre with lots of potential - there's the inevitable Madoka comparisons every time something new gets out but I like to think there's plenty of room for new direcitons through comics like mahou shoujo of the end for example. I also like to think that in a parallel universe the author of Sailor Moon went down a darker path and predated Madoka (it's mentioned in an interview) or even started a collaboration with Yoshihiro Togashi when they married.

I'm pretty excited about the concept (working on script and layouts now) but I doubt it will come to fruition any time soon. I recently teamed up with an artist (thank the heavens) and we're working on a fantasy comic but she has to deal with lots of college and work atm so the project is advancing at a snail's pace - but I've tasted blood and I can't bring myself to continue anything with my crappy doodles when there's the chance for a competent artist working on it in the future. I might have to ease her in on the more brutal aspects of this comic idea, though.

>>93682538

Believe me, If you practice, you can do this type of landscapes (or at least something like that), Is just to know a little how the tools work

>>93682415
>Saga of Tanya the Evil
I remember a lot of shitposting about this on /a/ when it came out - I'm not that much into anime, I just stop by occasionally for one page threads or scanlation generals.
Is it any decent?

>>93682042
>>93681890
>>93682606
I was thinking of something like this. Basically there's a witch/wizard academy stuck in a disputed territory between two nations that just got out of a massive war. Part of the peace treaty was that every 5 years governing of the region is passed off to the other nation and the story begins after the 5th year when the transition is happening to the other, defacto evil, nation.

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>>93682701
I personally didn't like the anime that much because the character style is not of my taste, but the manga is a really fun reading.

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When you read the first draft of the script of the comic you're working on

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>>93682896
>When you read the second draft of the script of the comic you're working on and it's even worse than the first.

>>9368289
This is so me but I'm on like the 3rd draft

>>93682896
Meant to quote ^
>>93682926

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>>93682896
when you read the entire argument of your story and its excellent

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I am posting a sequence of my current pages and a bit ahead about 8 pages worth. I want to know if it made any sense to anybody, if a reasonable inference can be made about what's going. Although I think I have done something similar in the past but its not as far along. Comments about other improvements that that needed to be made is welcome too.

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>>93682896
>When you finally post your finished page just to see that you made a mistake

>>93683496
I wish I had a fraction of your skill, fellow magical girl enthusiast.

As for critique: you probably heard this before but although your colors look really nice, I think this comic would work just fine, if not better in black and white. It has a strong manga aesthetic but unlike 90% of manga-influenced webcomics it feels really genuine. I realize you have now committed to colors but if you ever do a side project or spin off or something, really consider going with black and white all the way.
Other than that thre are a few minor grammar issues:
>was last bit of your humanity
needs an "a" or "the"
>had more magic in her
sounds awkward, try possessed more magic or had greater magical potential or something like that
>(...) been faithfully executing your well
This should probably say: (...) been executing your will faithfully.

>Tannhauser Gate
nice refference, I love it when they are somehow incorporated into the world of the story instead of just existing for their own sake

>>93683515
quick, go fix it! Almost nobody's seen it so you can probably reupload before anyone sees

>>93682726
I like the premise, actually.

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>>93675549
>>93674938
>>93671453
Alright. I like it more now that it's reworked.

>>93684294
shit, looks great

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I've always read comics and watched animations online. And I recently started drawing again so I sketched this up real quick the main idea I got was the story of a lonely fisherman girl, living in a small town filled with sea-based mysteries. Another idea I got was a stranded cosmonaut, chillin' in space waiting for someone to get him. If anyone here has ever dabbled in webcomics, would you be kind to share some tips or wisdom to a novice artist?

>>93685180
Well, you're allready on par with most hyw regulars, at least considering your art.
Your style is very fitting for a msystery or fantasy setting so I'd say, go with the fishergirl story.
If you want to expand the story or have a more complex plot it can be difficult to work with a strip or a simple panel grid. You need to adjust the format to your mode of storytelling. But for now I'd really like to see where this story goes.

Also, more generally speaking, I'd always tell any creators new to comics to study paneling and page composition thourughly since it's an incredibly important aspect of comics and an overwhelming amount of webcomic artists are very lacking in this regard.

>>93685433
Alright! Thanks anon, I keep you up to date on some pages!

>>93685180
Oooh very oldbooky in a good way.
And I like the two ideas you chose. I couldn't help but think of Broken Age, what if you did both and then somehow their stories crossed?

>>93685180
Well you have a really cute art so that's a good start

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>>93684119
Thanks for the comments, I need to bump this so i can refer back in time.

I am not really committed to coloring, the line art of the first chapter is pretty much done in 2016, but to coloring has been kind of a hurdle. I really want to release this in a reasonable time frame, but I hate to say this, that life gets in the way.

I have started on the storyboard pass for the second chapter and I will probably go without color at that point. I don't have enough spare time in my personal life to put it out in a reasonable time frame.

>>93687560
You can go without adding colors, how could you go with grays? That could be an alternative just so it's not all on white.

>>93669947
It's cute but I find a lot of creepy things cute. If you have the chance make a cute maggot man comic.

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How would you describe this art-style?

>>93687560
You did not draw that in 2006

>>93688584
it's about halfway between pokemon style and digimon style

>>93688601
That must be why it says June 2017 up top.

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Angel is a total tsuntsun when it comes to lesbian antics.

>>93689737
hey that's just good fellowship!

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>>93684294
Page 5 done.

Should I be aiming to write one-shots or 4-6 issue arcs? I haven't written a comic before, should I even be attempting a 22 page comic at this point? I'm having a really hard time with format with my ideas.

>>93691667
Do whatever you prefer. One shots would let you get thorugh stories quicker, but if you want to do multi-chapter arcs, go for it. 22 pages isn't bad for your first comic, it's much more reasonable than trying to do a 1000 page epic from the star. It's easier to start small, but if you're really passionate about an idea for a long story, go for it.

Just get to making comics, gaining the experience will you in the future.

>>93682701

The anime is alright. the character designs, like >>93682788 mentioned, do leave much to be desired, but the story and setting is superb and the visuals are outstanding in some areas.

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page of my new totally original non ppg or sailor moon related comic, coming soon!

>>93691667
>>93691738
This, or rather do whatever suits your comic. There's no way to answer that without a lot more information. What's the closest you would say your comic resembles another we'd know? If it's totally unique, then please elaborate on how, and that'll help answer

>>93691789
it's about time SOMEONE did something about the gummi bear plague in modern Tokyo.
the loose style reminds me of something, I can't think of what.

>>93692005
I hope it's something good

>>93692184
I can't remember. But either way you're doing it really well

>>93683496
uncoloured, I mistook the shot of that shit going up into the sky as an internal insertion shot

something is wrong with me

>>93691987
I want it to be about a single character, and I could use this character to explore ideas I have about themes like hope, trust, etc. Simple stories (hopefully) that revolve around a small cast that feel like regular cape comics.
I was just wondering if I should stretch an idea as simple as "You need to believe in yourself!" into multiple issues or would it be easier to do one shots as a beginner? I really want to work in a traditional 20-22 page comic format, but I don't know if it's a good place to start. The closest example I can think of is an episodic cartoon with loose continuity, I want to say Teen Titans but it might be because I was watching it earlier.

>>93692372
That depends entirely around the idea's complexity. If you're dedicating multiple issues to a saturday-morning cartoon level plot, I'd say that's too much. If you're actually challenging the idea and rebuilding it in a deep, clever way, take as much time as makes sense for the pacing.

>>93692372
Hmm okay, having weighed it all... I would suggest writing a practice issue and seeing if you can get a good "tv episode" out in about 5-10 pages. I'd like to see if you can manage it and still feel like the pacing was good. I suspect you can. But if you can't, then yeah go ahead with the 20-22 paradigm. At the very least you'll have a lot of peers to learn from

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>>93688601
Ah... that one was me redrawing a design from 2006, sorry about the confusion.

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>>93691789
>>93692005
>>93692184
>>93692215
It feels like Masaaki Yuasa.

>>93688361
Yeah, grayscale and spotting probably the option I will go for.

>>93692227
Well... I am a porn artist after all, so it might not be all Freudian on your part.

>>93692944
Oh wow thanks! I indeed am looking for a loose lineart

>>93692742
This sure was a ride of experimentation with artstyle

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6 months left

>>93693905
Why even bother posting this? You suck.

>>93693905
til what?
looks pretty good. There are titties like that, I've seen 'em, but most of the time when arms are pulled up that high you wanna pull them titties up higher too, stretched more vertically so there's no more underbooby.
If you still have underness in this pose, then they must be just sad, dumpy Oblongs tits when her arms are down. haha naw i like tits like those too.

>>93693944
who gives a shit what anyone thinks :^)

>>93693905
you seem to have construction down
but practice more contour drawing if you want to make poses more natural looking

>>93694050
not that guy but what is contour drawing? this woman seems to be very taffylike, kind of a mix of realism and modern noodly cartoons. If I had to guess what contour drawing meant, oddly enough it'd be that. I mean she has a lotta contours

>>93694067
continuous line

>>93693905
6 months?

>>93694067
Contour drawing just means drawing of lines on the outer edges of shapes, most line art is considered contour drawings. I believe the term op was looking for was "gesture drawing."

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Another kind of meh page. I should have had more of a background in panel 2, the gradient doesn't look great. But I ran out of time.

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wow wow wubbzy

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>>93663909

due to extreme fuckery and having to switch out my hardrive for an older one that works after a month of no computer I have to rewrite all my scripts from scratch and redraw all my webcomic storyboards from memory. I had some amazing storyboards for all 4 of my projects. But I think the easiest way to ease back into webcomics after a month of not being able to do shit digitally at all is my GOTH GIRL Z project chapter 2!

More details here in this blog I just wrote about it: http://jesse-the-art-maker.deviantart.com/journal/Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-691014359

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>>93696334

tell me if i blogged to much info. i think i went to far in a few places, especially with the loli manga stuff... Im just super excited about being able to draw digitally again and get back to work on my webcomics and stuff! :DDDDDDD

>>93694384
6 months!

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>>93693830
Indeed. Although I think I am finally settling on the general looks nowadays.

What is your favorite /hyw/ comic of all time, shilling yourself is foulplay

Also is there any /hyw/ comic that "took off" and actually gained a small (or even big) fandom of some degree?

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>>93698092

kill 6 billion demons is the biggest one so far. Im next! :^)

>>93698092
My favorite is carrion girls but he's stopped posting here and I can't be assed to check yet another site. I like when people use common webcomic hosts that have your own saved comics

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>>93698092
oh, like... i like everyones webcomic here, except dewds shit. i dont ike any of dewds shit.

I was really into sisters at one point but dropped it like 2 or 3 months ago.

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Plot is very simple for this story. The aunt has a slightly high-level dungeon customized for her niece and nephew's birthday. They explore that dungeon.
Light worldbuilding and making up mechanics as I go is pretty fun. Waiting for my writer friends' feedback so I'm trying to make a cover for the meantime.

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Among the Dupe stuff I've uploaded I've neglected to mention a major aspect of his animations is the fact his colors change depending on mood. These are some of the pictures I'll be using to accompany my ratings given in the reviews, more to come.

There's a lot of copypasting here but it's still better than just using one static image at the end of every video like anybody else probably would.

>>93698550
How did she make a whole dungeon? Is it like a simulation thing? Does she know everything that's going to happen? Regardless it's an interesting concept. Do you have any finished art for it yet?

>>93697694
you show talent but something seems strikingly "off" here. I think her arms are too short and her head is too big.

>>93692944
I like these, even with a rough sketch like this I already have a strong impression of the characters.

>>93691789
Lots of nice movement and dynamic posing here but their faces are really awkward. I also feel a stronger color palette could work here. Not necessarily high saturation just more remarkable. PPG had green blue and pink and this has like gray, salmon and spicy mustard. Could definitely become something promising though.

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>>93698970
She had the dungeon customized by a friend. It's a simulation. She knows what the dungeon's 'special secret' is, but most enemies, layouts, and rewards are procedurally generated.
Here's some from the previous thread. Forgot to draw the aunt's harness.

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>>93699134
If you die in the game do you die in real life?

>>93699377
Not likely. It is possible but the simulation has to be hosted in a very remote IRL location or a very shitty settlement that has no near IRL respawn points. There are checkpoint/respawn points in the simulation itself but these are only accessible around 1/5-1/4 into the dungeon.
Places that host simulations themselves have respawn points accessible. If the place doesn't, you'll respawn in the nearest IRL hospital or clinic.

>>93694441
Oh that makes sense

>>93694622
I think the quality here, the coloring, backgrounds, wrinkles.. is all really good. What I can't like is how peoples' faces look. It's not wrong, I just don't like it. (Well it's a little wrong, the lower face isn't really in proportion to the head, but fixing that wouldn't make me like the face any more.). I'd be curious to know other artists whose style and people you think looks good

>>93698462
>I like when people use common webcomic hosts that have your own saved comics
I could almost see that being useful but since it can't possibly have EVERY comic you follow, what would the point be?
This is kind of where RSS was going, but again it doesn't work for everyone

>>93698755
all this time I assumed it was lighting, and at the end of the comic he was going to step out of the cloughb and we'd see him in normal flesh tone with plain brown hair, black glasses, and gray clothes.

>>93698970
>something seems strikingly "off" here.
looks to me like the head, chest, and arms are at one scale, and the rest of the body is at a smaller scale
also the head has what appears to be a low, sloping forehead, high ears, and somewhat large nose and eyebrows for a girl. That and the square eyes make her decidedly uncute considering her hairstyle and outfit appear to be going for 'cute'
But I think this guy knows what he's doing because hot diggles he's centuries ahead of me in skill.

Short one-page stories or larger ones? Can't decide.

>>93700087
Not to mention the beach ball sized balloons on her chest

>>93700493
oh yeah, didn't see those, thought she was just fat
but I think this is from that comic where those are part of her superpowers

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I'm finally writing a script for this thing

>>93700226
short fuhney stories are the best. no one's gonna wait for months till you finish

>>93690924
woah new page has it been a year already 8)

I was wondering, if your working on a comic by yourself, with no one to share your work with for advice and motivation, what do you do to motivate yourself to work. I had off from work today, and planned to do some character designing and writing, but all I did was write a page for a scene I plan to include.

>>93701089
don't you hear the voices of your characters in your head demanding to be given life?

>>93698092
I love Boys Land, Vigor Mortis, and Fox and Cat Adventures. It's been nice coming here because there's such a wide range of comics people are working on.

>>93701370
yeah I like the variety too.

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>>93701089
I guess for me it's just about expressing myself and sharing my ideas and views on things in a fun and entertaining way. I don't like most media out currently so I'm wanting to make things that I would like as a consumer. Also creating content and gathering a fanbase is really rewarding and exciting. There's few things in life that make me happier or more motivated than receiving fanart of my creations. I guess I mostly like the social aspect of content creation.

>>93700136
Nah, It's a crazy sci fi setting with aliens and junk so monitor glasses, color changing clothes and weird skin tones are some of the most humdrum of technologies in universe. If anything Dupe is the least "special" character I've made for the setting despite all that being remarkable in a more realism based environment, that's why I'm using him for vaguely reality based stuff like social media and the tie in review series I'm doing. I like the idea of taking someone "average" out of a very strange setting.

>>93701089
At this moment I am euphoric. Not because of any phony reader's approval. But because I am enlightened by my own creativity.

>>93701689
Can you tip that fedora a bit harder for me?

>>93700719
>no one's gonna wait for months till you finish

No one reads webcomics for a conclusive story experience. Almost all the super popular webcomics are without any end in sight.

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finished my first page. haven't drawn for a while so it didn't come out as clear as I wanted but overall I'm happy. thoughts and criticisms?

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It's done. It ain't perfect but it's done.
Anatomical issues and background aside, anything else I could take into consideration for the next pages?

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Had some car trouble bullshit the past few days, but nothing stops this train. Published 2 ebooks this week and managed to pull off a bunch of pages on the scifi comic.

Recruited a writer for the robot comic, which is really exciting.

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>>93698970
>something seems strikingly "off" here. I think her arms are too short and her head is too big.

Yeah, that probably came out weird, but it has to do with some of my narrative hang up about her being a older woman but only 4'7". You couldn't see her crotch but when I was constructing the figure I was going for wrist reach in terms of relative proportion here, it would have been at the same level as her crotch area, but its obscured by her clothing. I will pay more attention about this next time, thanks.

>>93700186

I will be honest, I am not very consistent in the way I draw her, I'll change stuff on a whim but there are some hang ups I kept it so that she isn't just how I found to be cute. Although, it is probably I just unable draw a cute girl...

>>93702226
Aren't most of them divided in small arcs and short events that change one another? It's basically series of short stories or even strips.

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>>93692742
so neat seeing styles twist and tweak over time- your style has become so honed, it's immediately recognizable!

>>93703700

I think if you're going to draw a background either commit to it, or do one where the information can be "Tricked" into the viewers mind. So like, a motion blur background, or shapes, or shadows.

Right now you clearly drew a background- but there's nothing there, it makes it look like they are fighting in a box

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>>93700226

>>93704380
I can draw backgrounds, the problem is with digital art I feel like I lose that grip on perspective. I never really feel like I have control over my lines.

Daily reminder that you can give all the advice you can to help fellow webcomic artists even if your own webcomic ends on hiatus after 17 pages!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLzS2MmkzQ

No really, you can. That's what many of us do here really.

>>93704468

you've got to lay down that initial sketch. Then if that sketch is too loose, make a tighter sketch over it. Then if that sketch is too loose- etc.

With backgrounds only start inking (especially with perspective backgrounds!) once you know where everything is going to go relative to every other part.

That seems pretty onerous, but still it'll save you time vs endlessly erasing and inking to fix mistakes.

>>93704553
I'll keep that in mind, thanks senpai.
Anything you like about my page though?

>>93702421
that is one cool cactus

>>93704597
I think you're definitely at the point where you should be diving into comics! A lot of what makes a comic work is just having enough practice making them to get a feel for what you personally like.

You definitely know how to draw, now it's just a matter of applying it to the best of your abilities (which is going to take experimentation)

I think the face of the robber after being punched, as well as the foreground arm are the strongest parts of this page- I feel like you really took time with both and enjoyed the experimentation of the face and the emotion of the arm dropping the knife

>>93704857
Thanks ya. I'm gonna keep working on these, make my paper sketches more future proofed and find ways to make my process more efficient.

>>93703944
so that means her elbows go right down to her pelvis?
>unable to draw a cute girl
your past drawings were more cute. I think somewhere in the process of becoming absolutely godly at action you just lost some of that 'think of the face as a flat texture' amateur shit that is nonetheless cute. It's sorta like how it's hard to get good looking CGI faces

>>93704380
My backgrounds end up spartan because I can't remember what things exist in real life, I've spent a lot more time in really sparse, easy-to-render early 3d videogames and I've gotten used to empty environments. I try to imagine what goes in a place and.. I don't know

>>93705195
if you draw a blank never be afraid to look up a reference. It doesn't even have to look exactly like the reference, but often times it'll just help jog your memory towards what a thing should look like.

>>93700226
Well it kinda depends what you are going with

>>93705280
You're right
But they're sooo dullll

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When you read one of the previous scripts to your comic and see it's filled with cringe

Realize this might not be the best place to ask but I'm trying to come up with some believable motivations for an antagonist.

What would you guys think the best arguments for and against gene splicing/genetic modification/fusing two living things together would be?

I'm trying to ignore religious and ethical reasons because I feel like they're kinda played out.

>>93692742
2014 best style.

>>93698092
I like Harro's works and I love dupe's style, I think it's the most visually interesting one.

But that's probably because of my bias for sharp art styles.

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I did it!

>>93709908
Having the Patreon stuff in the page is a bit bold but is it ok? idk, I get the idea it's a bit intrusive.

>>93709908
This fuckin guy,has a commercial right at the bottom lmao. Never change webcomics ,never change.

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>>93710633
>>93710546
>>93709908


>You want your business to reach new places? To get yourself some new fresh clients? Pay for a publicity space in my webcomic and see how it reaches new horizons! The future of publicity in comics is here!

>>93710546
partly why it's on the bottom and I only shill once every few pages. probably gonna tone it down as well as "fix" the logo.

>>93709908
So what's the joke here? Is it the line about the cola? The scream? The throwing of the water? The patreon bump?

I don't really expect anyone from here to throw money at me, hell I would never even consider supporting anyone else on patreon. but you may be laughing at my patreon bump but I still make $17 a month and I barely even update :^)

>>93711021
heck if some writefag paid me a decent amount i'd draw whatever shit comic they want(i lied)

>>93711021
Almost three hours of minimum wage work in a month!

>>93711116
free money is free money my friend

>>93711021
If that ain't inspiration I don't know what is, good on you.

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New page! Can't post it here though because NSFW.
http://imgur.com/QjHf8Bj

>>93711691
I like this font. it suits the comic nicely
though the pixely letters next to vector art is kind of funny
This page would be really hot if her anatomy had any attention paid to it. Also her hands are backwards in almost every panel where I can discern anything about them

>>93711769
Oh dang, I do see a few places where the hands are backwards, I'll remember that for next time.

But could you expand on how her anatomy is weird?

>>93711901
It's pretty Picasso overall. Now it's one thing to exaggerate in a way that makes sense in 3d, but this looks like the image was flattened into 2d then smeared or smudged.
Her breasts never come close to being shaped like breasts and their attachment points change constantly, and the way they're shaded softly conflicts with the cel shading of the rest
Let's focus on panel 8: One of her buttcheeks is actually wider than it is tall. A widescreen buttcheek. The leg coming out of that buttock is just as wide, but appears to be as thick as the cheek should have been. It curves in back, but not in front. Her other leg appears to be folded like a cardboard tube and its buttcheek has a round under-crease but doesn't reach the bottom of the thigh.
Her back and shoulders have approximately the right form, at least for stylized art, but one arm having an elbow and the other being a noodle is odd. Also an eye from the side shouldn't look just the same as an eye from the front, it should be squished somewhat because perspective.
Also (and this is one that took me forever), you lift the opposite arm and leg, not the same. Meaning if a person should be lifting one arm in a gesture while walking, the other arm might have to be swung forward anyway, to match the legs, if you drew the legs that way already.

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>>93707105
That's a reel feel, anon. You're not alone. It's the only way to improve.
>>93693905
If you're going after a goal, then I wish you good luck, buddy. I met one of mine today. Keep pushing, it's always worth it.
>>93663909
I'm converting some of my old comics into animations. 1 down, about 25 to go. Can I get a critique, please? I know it's really rough and stiff, but I'm trying to loosen it up.

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Remade the cover. I want to do that thing where the cover is a panel later in the story.

>>93712109
Very Insightful anon.

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Pass me links to your comics to read them, starting from chapter one.

>>93712994
I guess that answers my suspicion of whether you're actually an oldby who only just started namefagging, since you sound like a lot of anons we used to have. nope! Lucy's a n00b. nothin wrong with that, lemme show you one of the ropes:
>>93663924
see this contact sheet dealy here? all of our comics are there, and yours should be too.

>>93712994
http://freakanimes.com/westtree/?comic=chapter-one-page-one

Here you go, hope you can survive nearly 600 pages of this.

>>93712311
Translation: LOL didn't read, not gonna do shit

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>>93712994
http://imgur.com/a/I6ZmC
Here you go, Anon. Don't have links to the other chapters yet because I haven't uploaded them.

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>>93695366
someone in the discord gave me some pointers, so I redrew this what his crit in mind

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>>93685433
Hey, I scribbled some random pages and I worked on the panel composition and I think it looks a lot better! Thanks for the tip anon.

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>>93714341
Oh no this is good

>>93714360
Damn thanks man! You made my night!

>>93714046
This reminds of that one PSA where a drunk father beats up a rubber hose esc. child just for the end to reveal he wasn't really a cartoon character and the kid is all fucked up.

>>93713904
Actually I'm not gonna lie, I did read all of it, but I got very little of it, as in I'm dumb and I don't get complicated explanations like that one, but I didn't have it in me to shut down that helpful anon, so I told the truth about him and not the truth about me, but I guess I should have from the very beginning about how dumb I truly am.

>>93712994
http://editorialdraken.com/catalogo/comics/magic-power-ball-no-1-eng-detalle.html

Could always use some more readers.
Just scroll down to read it, and scroll even downerer to find the other chapters.
Tell me what you think if you do read em.

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>>93713162
So the reason I was getting shit on was because previous anons had stirred up shit and I'm paying for their sins? I'm the Jesus of /hyw/ now.

>>93714341
looks cute anon, I want to see more and also I'm quite jealous. Keep up the good work

>>93714823
well you haven't really been shat on, from what I've seen you've dished out a lot worse than you've gotten, but yeah shitstirrers cause major problems

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>>93700087
I've heard that before, but they couldn't give enough information to understand what they meant.

I've switched my style a number of times over the years from attempting to mimic Kubert, to anime, back to more western superhero comic style, to now maybe a little more cartoony. I probably also have weird bad habits left from each of those styles.

Looking through artists I follow, a lot of them are anime artists, but that wouldn't be helpful here I think. Also excluding anyone I know-

I like Bruce Timm, how simple and bold he makes things. Joël Jurion, but I'm not sure he posts his artwork anywhere anymore. Ron Lim, although his storytelling and layouts can sometimes be generic. Genevieve Tsai, although she might be a little bit too cartoony. Bill Pressing, kind of for the same reasons as Bruce Timm. Ricken, but her more cartoony artwork, not as much the more realistic stuff. The Kuberts are great at everything, I've wondered if I should use black as a major element like they do.

A few years ago, I thought about switching my style radically to something like this (attached). Although I didn't really experiment with it very much. I thought it might be a little too crazy. I'm certainly open to style-changing advice.

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>>93715984
Dem knockers

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sad bump

>>93715984
You can always try to experiment with your style a bit, don't change it all of a sudden, but just take some bits and adapt them or something, see what works better for you.

>>93712263
>I want to do that thing where the cover is a panel later in the story.

That sounds like a nice idea.

With /hyw/ getting slower and slower, I have to wonder, do any active, moderately sized online communities exist that talk about (web)comic creation? Maybe a place where you can also look for collaboration partners, do weekly challenges etc? No discord chats.

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i'm kinda making it up as i go

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>>93663909

Meet Venessa, a new character that appears in chapter 2 of GGZ coming soon! When she is not in school she is in full cosplay as her furry oc character VENESSA THE BAT! She is not just a goth girl, she is also a hardcore furry! She loves going to my little pony conventions and every other furry conventoin that shows up into town. She is also a member of LAYP, Live Action Yiff Playing!

Sketchbook pro, original character!

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More Tomo ahead! I'll be changing his eyes a tad and streamline his mechanical design a little.

All of this plus what you've seen in the past from me will be included in a portfolio for SD Comic Con. I'll be pitching Kinematic, so please wish me luck!

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>>93719439

this is how she looks in full costume!

>>93719459
That's not very furry, man.

>>93715984
Hey man, just wanted you to know that your art was the first thing I ever masturbated to back in February 2005. It was that page from original Pulse where Annie was lactating. Thanks for the fap.

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>>93719468

...bats are literally furry mammals... and gothic as fuck... what the hell are you talking about man?

>>93719498
Do the wings work, or are they just for looks?

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>>93719503

they are just for looks. They are ducktaped to her back with black duck tape, sometimes they fall off and its a big deal for her until her new goth friends convince her to incorporate a black purse with a roll of black duck tape in her purse just in case, lol.

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>>93719503
>>93719549

i cant decide on 2 separate wings are a one piece like this one, she is the only main cosplaying girl in this webcomic but she does convince the other main GOTH GRILLZ to go to a cosplay convention with her later on in the story.

*the fangs are fake to encase you were wondering, and the claws are just gloves.

does anyone have a link to the discord channel? my account got hax'd earlier and i want to come back.

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>>93719459

i made the cover page to chapter 2 like 3 months ago and wasn't planning on changing anything, but since there is not a lot of boy goths in the goth comic of mine i think i need to make T-birds little brother a lot older, but not older than his sister.

T-birds real name is Trinity, her last name is actually Bird.

>>93719607
Come on man, it's goth GRILLZ, not goth BOYZ! We want to just see girls dammit!

>>93719605
wait nevermind, i have deft added

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>>93719468

to further clarify there are only 4 types of species on this planet that each grow there own type of mane/hair

humans/mammals/seals/whales in the ocean and frogs- grow hair, some frogs do grow hair!

fish -grow scales

reptilians - grow feathers

and insects grow spikes! sometimes very fine spikes on flys sometimes look like hair but its not, its very fine spike more like antenna than hair.

PROVE ME WRONG FAGGOTS!

>>93719830
Scales are not analogous to fur. They're skin.

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>>93719952

then explain scaleless fish, fish without scales dumbass

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>>93719714

Hm took your advice to heart and made 4 brand new goth girls on the spot just now to throw into chapter 2:

MAIN GOTH GIRLS:

TRINITY -ALT RIGHT GOTH (4CHAN FROG POSTER)
LILLY -ALT LEFT GOTH (REDDIT/TUMBLR BURN OUT)
NINA -LESBIAN GOTH
BEATS -HOMELESS GOTH
LADARA -DRAMA QUEEN GOTH

----CHAPTER 2 NEWCOMERS:

VENESSA -FURRY/COSPLAYING GOTH

CARLA -BASEBALL PLAYING TABACCO CHEWING GOTH

ORRIN-DINER WAITRESS GOTH

ERRIS -POSER GOTH

MIMI -MIME GOTH

>>93721228
>tobacco chewing
Gross.

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>>93721418

some girls are just into it and make it look sexy, she also would love the fact that it disturbs you or turns you off cuz she is that kind of rebellious goth girl.

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>>93721772

she also chews a lot of gum and blows gum bubbles when she is not chewing tobacco or is out of it

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>>93683515
>Upload the first page
>TYPOS! TYPOS EVERYWHERE!

>>93721772

Ooh baby. Nothing sexier than discolored, brown-stained teeth and mouth cancer.

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>>93721228

Another newcomer for GGZ chapter 2! She is a total fucking poser! She likes to dress up as a goth but thats it! She even makes fun of things goths do, its just fashion for her, not a lifestyle.

sketchbook pro, original character!

>>93721772
>some girls are just into it and make it look sexy
I don't know where you're from, but where I'm from chewing tobacco is pretty much universally seen as a thing only really dumb or really old men do. Women mostly smoke cigarettes. Then again, I don't use tobacco at all so what do I know?
>>93722164
Pretty much this.

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>>93722354

Erris is an asian goth girl encase you couldn't tell, she loves the goth girl clothes but hates the goth girl people!

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>>93701370

Thanks for reading!

New chapter is out as of yesterday.

http://boysland.thewebcomic.com/archive/#ch_100220

>>93721772
Delete this.

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>>93722354

Meet Orrin. Orrin is the local waitress, she also attends the same highschool as the main goth girls, she is a black goth girl, yes, they do exist!!!!

>>93723033

nope

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>>93723310

here is proof black people can pull off being a goth if they are serious about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXH1y8_8Sis

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>>93723364

found a better example

So I'm currently working on a story that involves invaders from outerspace, but I want to introduce some magical or mythical elements as well. Like magical artifacts that grant powers or monsters and cryptids. But I'm worried that I might be adding too many elements.

>>93715984
This is a really cute face, I dig it
A lot of people who change styles a lot, it's not so much that they keep bad habits from each, but that they start avoiding specific good parts of each in an attempt to 'get away from it'

>>93674381
For your consideration: maybe her breasts could start in her chest rather than her neck?

>>93721843
always post it here, I will proofread

>>93718383
Well I have read the discord chat is-
>No discord chat
Well fuck