Steven Universe

>>93661849
Teenage Steven? Interesting.

>>93661849
Steven actually looks 13 to 15, not 8 which somehow the storyboarders are trying to make him look and act.

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>>93661849
Neckbeard steven would have been glorious.

>>93661849
Other art:
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>>93661944
He looked 13 on the first episodes.

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>>93662097
Early theme song and Amy's design

As if steven couldn't look anymore lumpy and unappealing.

Is Sucrose a chubby chaser?

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>>93662148
>that thin exposed shortstack belly

Such a shame that this isn't our Amethyst.

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>>93662247

>>93661944
That's because in the original concept, Steven didn't have any magical powers. He was just a teenage intern who worked for the crystal gems (who were goddesses rather than magical people, although they might have still be revealed to be aliens later). It was Genndy Tartokovsky who told her to give the main character superpowers so that he wasn't just a useless tag-along character.

>>93661944
wasnt there an episode about why he looks so young?

>>93662148
>all that brutal dialogue and edgy shit
Glad they changed it

>>93662216
what the fuck is wrong with them
Sugar learn how to draw this is a fucking mess

>>93661849
>>93662158
Didn't Sugar design Steven to be the opposite of a typical protagonist?

He's fat stupid ugly and has those weird nostrils on purpose.
His redeeming factor is that he's really really nice.

He's the opposite of the gems who are all pretty but ugly inside (except Garnet, who is still perfect)

>>93662274
I always hope that these old designs get reused in other gems.

>>93662524
Garnet was an autist before chilling out.

>>93662370
I feel like the original idea would generate much.more.porn of Steven with the gems.


Hell, this actualy sounds more like "Greg as a protagonist".

>>93662499
These are just sketches.

>>93662216
Pearl looks like a gecko here.

>>93662524
>He's fat stupid ugly and has those weird nostrils on purpose.

Yeah because that's Rebecca Sugar's art style.

Also, I'll buy Pearl and Garnet being pretty but Amethyst? A shlubby womanchild who looks and eats like a sow, despite having the ability to change her appearance and doesn't even need to eat to live, let alone to excess?

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>>93662247

>>93662247
He looks like that one doodle some intern drew over the sketch of Spike's face on the walls of that one Cartoon network office.

>>93662370
The original idea sounds like it would either be a hell of a lot better as a western Adult Swim cartoon, or be a really shitty anime.

The idea of Steven being obviously teenage with a bunch of adult characters seems like it would alienate the fanbase the show is apparently going for.

If it were an anime one of the gems (probably Amethyst) would be a loli. Pearl would be a tsundere/yuris with Rose Quartz and Garnet would have giant tits.

>>93662834
ye but she thicc

>>93661849
Just think... in an alternate universe, Steven is this scruffy older teenager, fighting gem monsters, battling Homeworld, and popping wood every time one of the Gems (Pearl and Lapis especially) gives him a friendly hug or even stands or sits close to him.

>>93663038
Thicc >>> Logic

>>93663038
>>93663243
People like you are the reason why thicc means hamplanet now.

>>93663315
Not my fault thicc and shortstack don't mix.

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>>93662524
Probably yeah. That and a bit of inspiration from her brother Steven.

Her brother is a cutie though but Sugar seems to be the kind of person to have dealt with some kind of body dysphoria before and the idea of a fat protagonist is probably there to help calm that and others who may have similar problems.

Honestly I like it though. Steven is easy to recognize with the art style and has a distinctive silhouette which is important for lasting impressions. You can have a bunch of Johnny Quest looking fuckers and not know which is which if they were blacked out but you would see Steven's chubby shape and instantly know it's him. Pic semi related.

>>93661849
Bottom right is a fat Samurai Jack.

>>93663434
>Steven is easy to recognize with the art style and has a distinctive silhouette which is important for lasting impressions.
Maybe
But it's gotten a lot worse these last few seasons where Steven in approximately 2 feet fall and is half head.
Connie is even worse.
Peridot too.

Chibi has gone too far. It's horrible.

>>93663469
GENNDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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>>93662297
I went to Bethany Beach a while back and stopped by the place Fryman's was based on. I'm about 90% sure that T-shirt place was in the area, too.

>>93662216
This art is downright unsettling

>>93663482
I feel that is a problem tied to a different aspect of the show. They still follow the designs set for those characters but boarders are given a bit more free reign to adjust size.

A 5 foot Steven and 2 foot Steven will still share a bunch of similar elements for the design. Same thing with a 4 foot Connie and 2 foot Connie.

Peridot is kind of weird because she actually has two designs attached to her character but the unifying factor is her dorito shaped head to which you can still recognize no matter how fucking small they draw Peridot.

>>93663561
It's quick sketches in a sketchbook. Find a person who carries a sketchbook and ask to look through it, 99% of the time books are filled with ideas and concepts rather than finished pieces.

>>93663579
Yeah, but Connie and Steven had a fatman/thinman thing going on in the beginning.
It's a classic dynamic. Fat idiot, thin smarty.

But now they're both just Funko Pop! figurines

>>93663434
Steven's silhouette is eaasy to recognize because of his haiur. His fatness is shared with like five other characters, all also made distinct primarily by hair

>>93661849
>a fat neckbeard steven molesting pearl

this arouses me more than it should

>>93662441
Yes. The birthday episode reveals he physically ages slowly.

>>93663822
He just needs to get popped so he can change how he looks.

>>93663842
if he pops he dies.
- god

>>93663842
>>93663859
If he gets popped, Rose comes back.

Now that would be a horrifying end to the series

>>93663609
Looking through my own sketchbook I am not nearly as unsettled

Sugar just does noir care to adhere to the human form; limbs bending as if boneless, bodies that seem more like squishy masses of flesh than human torsos, etc. The way how she doesnt establish a framework for the characters also makes the figures look like a grouping of pencil strokes that only coincidentally took on vaguely human shape. I've seen artists that work that way, but the way she does it just seems...creepy. I understand that's her style, but it does not stop it from ramming full speed into uncanny valley.

I mean shit Steven looks more like a toad mutant than a real human bean in >>93662216

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>>93663235
It seems kind of more like the original concept would have been sort of a deconstruction of 90's cutsey magical girls shows like Sailor Moon (and in part taking inspiration from older attempts on that as well like Utena).

A weird mix of overtly regal elegance and down to earth at times downright raunchy humor and raw emotion.

>Steven and the Crystal Gems 12 part OVA remake never

>>93663859
I thought anon meant get his cherry popped

>>93663888

Well it looks to me that her sketching style is very loose and gestural in nature. Not necessarily a bad thing, considering these just look like quick and loose doodles that are basically visual notes to keep track of an idea.

Doesn't make it any less hideous, though.

>>93663910
He's mentally too young for that.
and physically has not gotten in to puberty so the beard hair he has during "Stevens birthday" doesn't makes sense

>>93663882
It's gotta be kind of comforting for Steven, though. We all wonder what happens to us if we die. He knows he just becomes his mom.

>>93663882
He'd probably just regenerate. His gem allows him to do all sorts of other shit that a physical body shouldn't be able to, like fusing and shapeshifting, so there's little reason he can't regenerate.

>>93664028
>He's mentally too young for that.
That's exactly the point. Maybe if he got his dick wet it would force him to perceive himself as more mature, thus triggering some actual growth

>>93664207
He's already been in Connie and Amethyst. Give the kid a break, he's doing well for his age.

>>93664585
>Implying they weren't the ones in him
We all know Steven's a total fuccboi

>>93664629
Doesn't matter, had a fusion.

>>93665565
shakingPearl.jpg

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>>93663898
Can you imagine what a Pug Davis-style Steven Universe cartoon would have been?

>>93666138
Great, now I'm imagining Pearl complaining about Steven and exasperatedly calling him a little faggot.

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>>93666245
Someone needs to make one of these of Pearl

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>>93666138
>mfw

>>93666811
>Sugar will never continue this
>There will never be well-animated adaption of this comic
...

>>93661849
Honestly? Would have made the show a lot better if they went with this and split his day to day life more between human and gem.
But now we got this perpetually shrinking midget

>>93666969
>they will never reprint it

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>>93666969
Well you have this, by Shmorky.

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>>93666245

>>93662158
Its based off her brother, steven sugar
Basic knowledge, anon

>>93661849
cool, I hope we actually see him physically age up so he looks closer to his actual age. Might actually be able to look at Connie in a romantic sense.

>>93669053
I was really hoping that was the point of the 'look how you feel' mechanic, but it seems like it's just an excuse to keep Steven from ever aging. It's disappointing, I thought SU would rise above Adventure Time in that way but it's just as bad.

>>93669856
Steven Universe is a tragedy of wasted potential in so many respects. It rarely gets worse than mediocre, but it could have been truly great.

Anyone preorder the art book?

>>93662733
Probably why the Greg era gets so much love on the show. It's effectively the original pitch.

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>>93661849
>neckbeard
>girly eyelashes
wew

>>93670139
I don't think anything isn't a waste of potential anymore. Concepts are beautiful things with limitless potential. But when executed, concepts have every single fiber of potential whittled out of them by force, save for a single one that becomes its only one; fixed, rigid, linear. By definitively creating something, you sacrifice all of its potential.

>>93662868
>are you mad?

>>93662499
>what the fuck is wrong with them
Sugar is a "graphic designer"

>>93661849
Sugar isn't professionally trained, right? She really doesn't seem to have a cemented understanding of form.

I mean I recall seeing older calarts graduates like Genndy, Faust, or Mccracken sketches, and they have form and precise linework, but anytime I see any sketchwork from the crewniverse, or it's creator, it's always the rough, unconfident shit, like they don't know what they're doing, even with established characters, some of the work she scratches and posts on the tumblr looks like a beginner's work.

Wow this is a very civil thread. What is this feeling? Am I-i...? Enjoying a su thread? ON MY PREICOUS /CO/!

>>93663482
only one board team was making connie tiny (though in contrast only one and a half teams weren't making steven tiny)

>>93662868
there you go

>>93663548
neat

>>93670373
Sugar went to SVA and also spent some time as a storyboard artist on Adventure Time

How did Steven turn into Mineta

>>93667398
i worry about meeting people from 4chan

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>>93670288
kek

>>93662974
So that maid sama dragon thing all over again?

What is Pug Davis?

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>>93670608

>>93662247
>>93662216
>>93662174

The state of the show has only reaffirmed my thoughs on the matter, but I'm under the impression she doesn't know what she's doing in any regard. I also don't get why these drawings have all these random lines. I'm not a fantastic artist, but seeing this bugs the shit out of me. She's not using any construction and she clearly isn't at a professional level to do it freehand. I just do not understand her process when it yields results like this. It looks like she's just trying to scratch something out as fast as possible. What is the context of these images? Are they the very first doodles in a notepad?

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>>93667398
>more

>>93670608
porco rosso in space

>>93670373
are you an artist? Give me some examples of Genndy or Faust sketches.

>>93669856
the only thing that bothers me is when they utilize his super strength while maintaining his chibi-like size. It's not particularly funny or cute. I'd much appreciate him getting muscles or whatever. I'd rather not wait until the final season for him to finally master this shit.

>>93670975
Two live examples of Faust, Mccracken, and a bonus on a SJ DVD shows a bunch of concept art Genndy was working on at the time, there's one shot in it that shows multiple concepts of one character; something professionals do. I'm not a historian on it, but I remembered seeing some of these back when. I'm sure you can find better examples around somewhere, but I figure these are more than enough to show the experience gap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCM0RKJKk20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnGyTcmzwgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUnaaq2VnfY

>>93663434
Not really body disphoria, more like a love for non-cookie cutter cartoons. She was a shipper for Ed, Edd n Eddie and Invader Zim. Both shows have unique styles not hampered by hot shotas

>>93670546
I met some cool guys from /tg/ once.

>>93670608
The only good thing Sugar's ever done.

>>93670608
a porn comic about a boy and a tsundere dogman who are totally gay for each other

so were there any early concepts for Connie that were noticeably different from what we got?