Who would win?

>>93603508
I haven't finished part 6. I'm like, maybe a 1/5 of the way through. Spider-man still wins, I suppose.

>>93603508
No contest. JoJo has been to jail, and spiderman is just a little nerd with a fancy suit his husbando made for him.
She's way tougher and more clever.

>>93603508
Okay, I'm still in the first chapter, what's the steel ball run girl's stand do?

Spidey.
As much as Jolyne is one of my fave JoJos, spider-sense, super strenght and how Spider-Man is basically the Joseph of /co/ with his asspull tactics towards his surroundings makes him the winner.

>>93603924
>Actually thinking this
Christ.
>>93604325
>steel ball run girl's
Christ.

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>>93604325
>Steel Ball Run

>>93604325
She turns her body into string.

>>93603508
They end up getting married so I guess Peter wins.

Or maybe not since he now has to face Jotaro.

Joleyne

Stando power is too much

They really ought to stop pitting characters who have vastly different amounts of strength against each other. *cough*supermanvgoku*cough*

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Well Spidey has much more physical prowess than Jolyne but then again, it is a Jojo's job to bullshit their way through stuff in the most asinine and entertaining ways. I 'm at a lost. It would be fun to watch though.

>>93604414
>Implying that Spidey isn't the Joseph of /co/

He can pull out bullshit a couple of times.
So its really a battle of who can pull said bullshit.

would Spidey even see the stand coming? would it trigger his sense?

Why do we always have to have these vs scenarios? Why can't we discuss who'd be the dom?

>>93604476
Long as it meant him harm yes.

I've forgotten most of this run, but the question is going to be how much of a pounding she can take from him.

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>>93603508

I think in terms of feats of raw strength Peter might actually be stronger than Stone Free, and while SF can punch faster Peter is more agile.

Spider-Man wins.

>>93604358
Thank you. That's pretty damn cool. Is she psychic?

>>93603508
I feel like Spider-Man could probably outsmart Jolyne. So long as he doesn't get in close, he could likely beat her.

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>>93604493
Anon is asking the right questions.

>>93604493
Jolyne was the inspiration for Juri Han. I think that speaks for itself.

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>>93604788
Yeah, but Peter's canonically into web bondage.

>>93603508
it should be jolyne vs juri

>>93604572
she's the stone ocean girl and she's not psychic why would you think those things

>>93605204
also, turning her body into sting isn't the only thing she can do

>>93605204
Anyone with a stand is essentially a psychic. Their psychic powers just manisfest as robot alien punch ghosts.

>>93604943
web=/=string there power are totally different

>>93605230
that's not how stands work and no stand user has psychic powers

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>>93605222
That's sort of why I think Jolyne's a very underrated JoJo. She's given a stand with such a simple ability but finds so many creative ways to use it.
>mfw she turned her body into a mobius strip

>>93605260
Psychic is a very broad term anon. It's not all telekinesis and reading minds, even then a near every stand user is essentially capable of telekinesis and some few can read minds. The nature of stands are spiritual/psychic energy manifesting into ghostly avatars with unique powers. It all checks out.

>>93605268
I always thought that was a little weird how unlike previous protagonists and all villains her power didn't affect time in any way.

>>93605489
Araki had Joseph more in mind when hammering her out. She works with what little she has in as clever a way as she can think up and has an attitude rivaling his as well.

>>93603508
Spider-man would obliterate Jolyne. Weakest Jojo after the hamon-era Jojos. Even the crippled Jojo is better than her.

>>93603508
Does Screwattack actively browse 4chan?

>>93604386
>*cough*supermanvgoku*cough*
How much do you want to bet that people will ask for another one after Super is done?

Spider-sense is so fucking busted that Jolyne doesn't have a chance.

>>93605204
Still on stardust crusaders. Asked if she was psychic because Peter, very loosely, is. He's got danger-centered precognitive awareness, which couples very nicely with his superhuman reflexes and agility. I see Jolene is fast, and I know most stands can pluck a bullet from the air, but I just wanted to establish whether she was aware of any part of the future.

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Would they be able to beat pebble-in-shoe Ed boy?

>>93605376
that's not stands, stand have nothing to do with that energy stuff, it's all about willpower and personality and there are no stands can can use telekinesis or read minds

>>93605489
the only protag that has time powers is jotaro and there are only 3 villains with time powers

>>93605762
jolyne survived and defeated worse stuff than sm

>>93606385
Josuke and Gio powers are pretty "time panipulation" like

>>93605826
ss isn't all that powerful as you make it out to be

>>93606347
>read minds
Retard the part in which Stands are introduced has a stand that can read minds. Darby the younger/ the gamer.

>>93606436
there powers have nothing to do with time, it's about healing

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>>93606347
>No stands can use telekinesis
>Mentally conjured ghosts that are intangible and unseen by regular people that can interact and move objects
It's essentially telekinesis confined to bodies. Star Platinum picking up a cup is essentially telekinesis

>No stand can read minds
>Forgetting the Telence D'Arby fight
His brother's stand could even sense a person mentally losing/giving up.

>>93606462
but they revert actions

>>93606385

DIO, Kira with the Bites the Dust upgrade, Diavolo, Pucci with Made in Heaven. That's 4.

>>93606459
i just read about darby's stand ability on the wiki and it has nothing to do with mind reading

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>>93606436
Josuke (assuming part 4's) was strickly fixing things and rebuilding broken stuff how he sees fit. he never manipulated time. Gio affects causality, not time.

>>93606483
no they don't they just fix things

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>>93606529
>On the Wiki
Nigga. He literally read Kakyoin and Jotaro's mind to win, Jotaro having to cheat.

>>93606496
i forgot about pucci

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>>93606459
D'Arby's stand could only get a "soul's" reaction to a yes or no question. That hardly qualifies as reading minds. Rohan was the closest Araki ever got to that.

>>93606496
>>93606602
Doesnt Funny Valentine deal with alternate timelines, that's how he makes all the clones like other Diego

>>93606665
Alternate Universes Satan.

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>>93606610
So just because you replace mind with soul, it just stops essentially being mind reading. That's basically mind reading anon. It's subtle and conditional but still falls under the area.

>>93606423
>being shrunk against your will
>airsniper + dissolving moss(fucking Whitesnake why did you stop using that power)
>plankton person
>compensation
>weightless man
>zombie
>xeno's paradox baby
>acid mist
>short-term memory fuckery
>railroaded scenarios
>reverse gravity
>time warp

>more than Spidey's faced
Cmon bro, be real.

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>>93606423
>survived

>>93606474
a stand picking up something isn't essentially telekinesis, it's essentially an invisible creature picking up something
>>93606560
i'll be honest, i don't know that much about part 3, i only watched two episodes and the only things i know about that part is who dies, how they die and anything part 3 related in eyes of heaven but reading that stands ability makes it clear that it's not mind reading, it's something called soul reading, he just asks his target's soul a simple yes or no question which the soul is obliged to answer, unbeknownst to the one being read, allowing him to secretly guess someone's intent, the stand also visualizes a person as if through an infrared detector when reading souls and if the person lies, the color of their aura changes, allowing him to determine that they are lying, his stand is basically just a lie detector

>>93606665
there more like alt realities

>>93606665

I'd say that's more related to space than it is to time, but that's up for debate.

>>93606718
desu the only sm comic i read is the sm/dp comic the rest of my info is from movies and cartoons

>>93606806
wtf i said desu not desu

>>93606832
Newfag

>>93606832
desu means to be honest

>>93606848
i now understand also i've been on 4chan for at least a month and a half

i still think jolyne vs juri makes ore sense

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>>93606718
But anon let's not forget this gem of complete fuckery

>>93606763
>Invisible creature
Yeah, a ghostly one conjured by psychic/spiritual energy

I'll give you that you're right with that more in depth description of Darby's ability. The line between soul and mind is blurry in the way its applied in my opinion but you're right. But at the core of the argument Rohan and his Heaven's Door can still read minds like >>93606610 mentioned.

>>93606698
it's not the soul part I was talking about, it's the yes/no part that makes him a "mind reader". compared to Prof. X and even Rohan, D'Arby Younger was like an abacus to a supercomputer as far as mind readers go.

>>93606909
Okay fair, Heavy Weather is a major mindfuck.

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>>93604341
>>93604526
>>93605826
>spider-sense
>versus Stone Free's A rank durability
as in, equal to Star Platinum's "catch a bullet at point blank range" durability. Spidey's getting a deep fucking from Jolyne

How come DragonballZ and JoJo are so frequently talked about on /co/?

>>93606909
like i said, it's not psychic or spiritual energy it's about personality, willpower, fighting spirit and life energy and rohan's stand also has nothing to do with mind reading he just turns his target into an encyclopedia about themselves

>>93607039
That's Speed, not Durability, dipshit.Stone Free can deflect bullets, wonderful.

You're really underestimating Spidey's endurance and speed too.

>>93607117
How is that not mind reading. What sepcific qualifications are necessary for reading people like literal books to be considered mind reading.

Also Araki once described stands as an extension of hamon which was thrown away pretty early and shifted around throughout the 8 parts they've been around. You're going by hard definition based on the wiki so I may as well too

"A Stand can also represent the manifestation of an individual's innate "fighting spirit" and embodies, to an extent, the individual's psyche."

Stands have never been concretely any one thing, that's not how Araki rolls, they dance around a general broad idea. The nature of their abilities are pretty consistent to the nature of psychic abilities. Reminder Joseph literally has Clairvoyance.

>>93606549
And he fixes things by bringing them back to a previous state in time. That's why Okuyasu went back to his severed hand when Josuke fixed it, because that's where he was standing earlier

>>93607290
how is hat mind reading, he's not reading minds, he's just turning people into encyclopedias, that's not mind reading

using hamon is nothing like using psychic abilities

joseph has no psychic abilities, he's just really good at reading people and predicting them, it's intelligence not psychic

also, you just said
>stands have never been concretely any one thing
>stands are psychic abilities and only psychic abilities
wtf

>>93607641
that's not how it works, if that is how it works then kira would've went back to the spot where he cut off his hand

>>93604528
Can Spider sense allow him to evade SF's attacks despite not being a stand user though?

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>>93608028
>joseph has no psychic abilities
Nigga did you read this manga? You sound like you haven't seen past the first 2 parts.

>physically reading people's minds like a book isn't reading minds
What is your definition of reading minds?

>Psychic abilities and only psychic abilities
I'm only defending stands as being psychic abilities, not denying other interpretations like you are

Wryyyd the manga, nigga. Argue about something you actually know.

>>93608115
Yes. Spider-Man's spider sense technically works as a form of precognition. The only shit it doesn't work on is things he himself wouldn't consider a threat, such as himself or his loved ones.

>>93608234
But is Spidey Sense really useful for something he can't see?

>>93607100
Jojo is starting to get more and more bigger thanks to the anime adaptations since 2011. And DBZ because of toonami in the 90s. That one should be really obvious

>>93608241
>But is Spidey Sense really useful for something he can't see?
It gives severity, direction, and temporal proximity of threats.

It's pretty much exclusively useful for shit he can't see since shit he can see coming he can dodge anyway what with his super human reaction speed and way of the spider training.

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My gut says spidey but it won't be easy. Jolyne is tough.

>>93608394
Who is the guy dressed as a fashion cow?

>>93608436
One of Dio's four sons

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>>93605260
>that's not how stands work
That's literally exactly how stands work.

Stands are themselves psychic powers. Like pyrokinesis or scrying or pic related. I mean a stand is literally just a tulpa.

>>93603508
Spider-Man.
Jolyne is Jojo tough and sharper than black Knight's sword, but the only advantage she has is that Spidey couldn't see her Stand, which is trumped by Spider's spider sense.
Spidey is faster and stronger and has a better range.

>>93608241
the whole point of spidey sense is to prevent him from getting hurt, which include things he can't see or are actively trying to hurt him, like girders falling from up high. He's also fought people that mess with his spidey sense like Venom

>>93608525
>Spidey is faster and stronger and has a better range.
This is basically the catch. Stands have a max effective range and Spider-man will know exactly what that is pretty quickly with his spider-sense.

At that point she is completely fucked cause he can web her ass up pretty easily using web nets which Spidey sure as shit can fire from more than 24 meters.

>>93608192
i was only talking about part 2 joseph and that hamon and his ability to predict people aren't psychic abilities and if you include the other josephs then he still doesn't have any psychic abilities because hermet purple isn't a psychic ability

rohan doesn't read minds and it's impossible to read minds physically, you don't even know what mind reading is

i'm not denying other interpretations, i even ave more than one interpretation as examples, as far as i'm concerned you people are the ones that are denying facts

i am reding the manga, i'm on part 8, iv'e read everything about stands and i even watch 3 parts of the anime

i'm not trying to argue anything, why does everything have to be an argument to you people, i'm just telling you why you're wrong

are you black

>>93608516
>i mean a stand is literally just a tulpa
why didn't you say that in the first place, that's exactly what stands are, you should've known that psychic stuff and tupla stuff are two completely different things

>>93608858
>you should've known that psychic stuff and tupla stuff are two completely different things
/x/ here, no they're not, you're being a retard.

A tulpa is a thoughtform you fucking mong. It's similar to a poltergeist.

>>93608791
>I'm not trying to argue anything
Anon this entire conversation you have been partaking in is something called an argument, they're natural and happen. People debate their opinions ideas, don't consider it negative.

>Hermit Purple isn't a psychic ability
You've read the majority of parts but seem to forget Joseph can literally see things beyond his sight with Clairvoyance, that as well as stands in general being psychic in nature. But that doesn't seem to go along with your definition of psychic you don't seem to want to share.

>You don't even know what mind reading is
You seem really damn adamant on not explaining whatever you consider it to be

>Denying facts
Saying Stands are psychic doesn't contradict anything as they can fall in that area as well as the other various interpretation Araki throws around

>Reading the manga
You seem to need to read it again

>Are you black
Nigger

>>93608945
poltergeist isn't psychic stuff, that's paranormal/supernatural stuff and you being from/x/ or whatever means nothing because most if not all of you are crazy randy stairs motherfuckers

>>93609054
>poltergeist isn't psychic stuff
That is completely and totally fucking wrong. A poltergeist is a telekinetic event caused by the thoughts or emotions of a person or entity and is in every sense a classical psychic phenomenon.

Next you'll tell me a medium isn't a psychic.

>>93609009
but it's not an argument. i'm just trying to teach a student

joseph doing that isn't psychic, it's intellagence
>stands in general being psychic in nature
so you admit stands aren't psychic and if you wanna know what psychic is then i'll tell you, it's just some prof. x, that's so raven type shit

mind reading is having whatever someone is thinking about appear in your mind

i'm not saying you're contradicting anything

i know enough

what are you trying to tell me, are you black, are you calling me a nigger or are you trying to say something else

>>93609191
poltergeist are caused by ghost, ghost are not psychic and wtf is a medium

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>>93609208
>I'm right and you're wrong, I'm not even gonna properly explain myself because I don't need to

>>93609238
>wtf is a medium
Fuck off this site man. You're clearly fucking stupid.

>>93609280
i did explain myself and i'll never fuck off

>>93609238
>poltergeist are caused by ghost,
Actually a poltergeist is just unexplained telekinetic activity and can and often is linked to extreme emotion from the living.
>ghost are not psychic
Then how do they move shit without a body?
>wtf is a medium
Larger than a small but smaller than a large. Basically a regular.

Also, you're retarded.

Go to /x/ or /a/ holy shit you autists

Jolyne would fuck Peter up something fierce. He wouldn't even see it coming, and I don't mean be cause he can't see her stand, it'd be too fucking fast for him to react to. Stone free can fucking deflect oncoming meteorites. Not only that, she can takes those same fucking meteorites like you'd take a punch from a four year old, so nothing Peter's throwing gonna matter.
So he can't see her attacks coming.
he can't take her hits
and worse, he couldn't react to them if he could see them.

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>>93609318
Then please have fun being an immense faggot

>>93608660
>He's also fought people that mess with his spidey sense like Venom
Yeah, and he usually fucking loses against Venom.

>>93609238
>medium
Someone that can communicate,see and sense spirits nearby or even summon them from after life.

>>93609333
but how is it truly caused, ghost

they have ghost powers and they posses stuff

wtf kind of a person is that, that doesn't even sound psychic

>>93609446
but that's supernatural/paranormal power not psychic power

>>93609401
>Stone free can fucking deflect oncoming meteorites.
Which only travel 200-400 mph. Spider-man has kicked Quicksilver's ass more than once.

>Not only that, she can takes those same fucking meteorites like you'd take a punch from a four year old

>The Sylacauga meteorite is the first documented extraterrestrial object to have injured a human being in the USA. The grapefruit-sized fragment crashed through the roof of a frame house, bounced off a large wooden console radio, and hit Hodges while she napped on a couch.[3] The 34-year-old woman was badly bruised on one side of her body but able to walk. The event received worldwide publicity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylacauga_(meteorite)

Meanwhile Spider-man has literally torn a building in half before.

>>93609520
>but that's supernatural/paranormal power not psychic power
1. Psychic powers are considered paranormal.
2. Mediums are considered psychics to the point of sometimes being referred to as psychic mediums. They are psychics that function as mediums for communicating with spirits.

>>93609501
>they have ghost powers and they posses stuff
Poltergetic activity is not possession. A person sending part of their soul out to possess an object would be astral projection, which is, you guessed it, another psychic power. Also ghost powers isn't a thing unless you're Danny Phantom and only because ghosts in that series were technically extradimensional magic energy-based aliens and he had a specific power set derived from them.

You have a really narrow, amazingly ignorant, worldview on what is commonly considered psychic.

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>>93606696
>Funny Valentine fights Peter.
>Tries to bribe him with an alt universe Uncle Ben or even taking him to the universe that he sold to Mephisto but with Aunt May alive and healthy.
>Mepisto hears about this and intrudes in the fight.
>It becomes Spider Man Shattered Dimensions 2.0 as Funny starts pulling every evil or antagonistic Spider-Man villain from altverses to cover his ass as he gets away with Mephisto chasing him.
>Final fight is Mepisto vs Alt Mephisto with Peter/Funny duking it out around them.

Now that would be interesting to see.

>>93609707
>Mephisto
Has Marvel explained why he just let the Scarlet Witch's kids reincarnate despite totally owning their souls?

>>93609707
FUCK I need this. It already sounds like a better Spiderverse.

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>>93606760

>>93608436
Rykiel, Dio's son with the power to control flying dildos.

>>93609967
Those flying dildos made for a damn good fight.

>>93603508