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>>93598122
Justice league was his coworkers, not friends.

>>93598122
He gradually became more and more of an asshole as he gained more experience, and did some fucked up shit that alienated/drove away all of his friends and allies.

It was an unavoidable situation since the Justice League show came about only after BB ended.

Could have been easier to get it non-canon and make a happier ending for Bruce but Timm wanted his crap romance.

>>93598122
>How did bruce end up a lonely fuck in Batman Beyond when he had friends in Justice league?
Because he's an asshole who pushed everybody away and nobody is obligated to stay with a bitter fuck like that.

>>93598122
>pushed Diana away and never dated her for no reason
>slept with Barbara and ruined his relationship with Dick
>Tim got captured on his watch and got too traumatised to keep being Robin
>eventually pushed Barbara away by being too cold and distant

His loneliness is almost entirely his own doing

>>93598122

The batman beyond universe was retarded, it doesn't count.

>>93598313
Canon ending to DCAU tho

It's the comics that don't count
Don't think Dini or Timm said anything about BB 2.0 and DcYou/Rebirth Beyond

Clark left him alone after he stopped being Batman. Bruce didn't want to be around superhero shit if he was done with it. He was retired from his company. He was all about the mission and he couldn't complete it anymore. After he put on the mask in the first place, there was no coming back from it.

>>93598281
At the end of Return of the Joker, Bruce had made up with Timm and Barb.

>>93598497

You have to choose between believing All Star Superman happened or Batman Beyond happened, and I choose All Star Superman. Superman couldn't have shown up in Batman Beyond because he was busy fixing the Sun at that time.

>>93598657
???

>>93598122

Barbara

>>93598752

What part don't you understand?

>>93598844
Alternate universes.
They both could've happened. Just not at the same time and same place. ASS didn't happen in DCAU canon, and the DCAU didn't go into Beyond territory in ASS canon.
You're just coming off as petulant for no reason, at this point.

>>93598941

Alternate universes are part of the same canon in DC. Batman Beyond and All Star Superman aren't in two different universes in the same canon. They depict the same universe with different contradictory plots so you have to choose one. Superman shows up in Batman Beyond at a time when he wouldn't be able to show up per All Star Superman.

>coming off as

Not an argument.

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>>93598122
Didn't Superman get fucked by Starro for 30 years or someshit?

Anyways I like Batman's tragic later life. It fits his characters. I hate stupid shit like him having a happy ending with Catwhore or whatever.

>>93599090
>Alternate universes are part of the same canon in DC.

Okay, so you're a complete idiot.

>>93599124

If you have different universes depicted in the same comics that means those alternate universes are part of the same canon. DC does that so you can't use alternate universes as an excuse, we already have information on what the alternate universes are in each canon. All Star Superman isn't an alternate universe of Batman Beyond. You have to pick one or the other.

>>93599124
Bringing up ASS in a DCAU thread wasn't enough of a clue?

>>93599338

There's literally nothing wrong with bringing up All Star Superman in a Batman Beyond thread.

>>93599371
There's literally everything wrong with it.

>>93599312
Not the anon you're replying to.
However I still fail to see what you're trying to say here. Even when there was only the main universe and the anti-matter universe post-COIE, there were still Elseworlds stories. Not everything is canon everywhere and to everything else. DC has been using alternate realities that don't sync up with one another chronologically since the Silver Age. Not everything is canon. ASS and DCAU don't intersect, even if there was an animated movie for ASS. You don't need to choose which happened. One happened in one continuity, and another happened in another continuity. DCAU is DCAU. Elseworlds is Elseworlds. Pre-COIE Earth-(insert designation) is Pre-COIE Earth-(insert designation). And on, and on. This is what multiverses in fiction are.

>>93598122
I like to think the timeline shifted with the beyond crossover episodes.

They pretty much showed nothing is set in stone when Time is involved.

>>93598150
He had many moments in the show where he showed genuine friendship with Clark, Diana, and Wally.

Granted he didn't take the leap into a full relationship with Diana that she wanted, but he did have a decent friendship with her.

>>93599414

>This is what multiverses in fiction are.

There's already an actual multiverse in pretty much every continuity of DC. What you're talking about isn't a multiverse, if anything it'd be some non-canon hypothetical meta-multiverse of multiverses.

The only bat that deserves a happy end is brave and bold bats, he was a bro to everyone and punched bad guys with his hammers if justice

If you don't stick with the grey and blue you deserve to be lonely for being an emo fuck

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>>93598189
>Timm wanted his crap romance
What does this have to do with anything?

>>93599706
I think anon is talking about babs/bruce which is a -100/10 ship and led to Dick Fury and Old Man Wayne.
But as far as I know Timm didn't actually pull the trigger on it, it was somebody else in BB 2.0

>>93599371
Okay, what gave you the faintest idea that ASS happens in the BB universe? Superman Beyond shows up, and that's the same Clark from JL.
I'd be down with ASS happening after BB tho.

>>93599095
No.

Supes was wearing the black and white suit, meaning it had to have been relatively recent in Batman Beyond's timeline.

A lot of people (even Bruce Timm) mistakenly think that he was wearing the red and blue suit with the implication that he'd been mind-controlled for years.

https://youtu.be/LN87gVEkPGc?t=2m17s

>>93598122
Like he isn't rich enough to bring in ho's to the mansion every weekend.

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Batman is an INTJ

>INTJs tend to have set opinions about what works, what doesn’t, what they’re looking for, and what they’re not. These discriminating tastes can come across as arrogant, but INTJs would simply argue that it’s a basic filtering mechanism that allows them to direct their attentions where they will do the most good. The fact is that in friendship, INTJs are looking for more of an intellectual soul mate than anything else, and those that aren’t prepared for that kind of relationship are simply boring. INTJs need to share ideas – a self-feeding circle of gossip about mutual friends is no kind of social life for them.

>INTJs will keep up with just a few good friends, eschewing larger circles of acquaintances in favor of depth and quality. Further, having more than just a few friends would compromise INTJs’ sense of independence and self-sufficiency – they gladly give up social validation to ensure this freedom. INTJs embrace this idea even with those who do fit into their social construct, requiring little attention or maintenance to remain on good terms, and encouraging that same independence in their friends.

>When it comes to emotional support, INTJs are far from being a bastion of comfort. They actively suppress their own emotions with shields of rationality and logic, and expect their friends to do the same. When emotionally charged situations do come about, INTJs may literally have no clue how to handle them appropriately, a glaring contrast from their usual capacity for decisive self-direction and composure.

https://www.16personalities.com/intj-friends

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I think a bad end, or the possibility of one, is the only thing that keeps Batman from being a Mary Sue

So you wanna be the best at literally everything and have more money than god and be able to operate on the same scale as Superman despite being... just a dude? There's got to be a price for that. It makes sense that his personal life would be a mess

I don't even mean in the "Bruce is crazy so he drives everyone away" I mean in the "Bruce cares more about his job than maintaining his relationships so everyone who doesn't dote on him like Alfred gradually drifts away from him"

>>93598122
>Why'd Clark let him become a bitter loner
batman has always been a loner and imo is best read as the asshole standoffish lone wolf. when jason todd died it definitely affected bruce and i think that might help explain why he seems lonely.

I always thought Clark was a bit of a bigger Dick in the DCAU than Bruce
Timm's a Batfag and he was largely sympathetic and vindicated by the end

>>93601340
Happen to know which heroes have the ISTJ personality type?

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>>93602090
Daredevil, Black Widow, Vision, John Stewart

Sometimes Cap is written as ISTJ as well

Other times he is ESTJ


I am INTJ and this website is basically my biography. https://www.16personalities.com/intj-personality

>Bruce "MY PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD" Wayne
>having friends
Pffft! That self-righteous paranoiac is too busy building mind control satellites to have any true emotional connections. Of course he'd end up alone.

>>93602273
sorry about the realistic emotional duress playing a key part in one's personality. are you new or something, friend?

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>Bruce has a sad ending

Is it really a sad ending? Has Bruce ever been a person who was happy with just settling down and dropping the cowl?

He essentially had a son in Terry grooming him into the best batman he could be (besides being as smart). He lived long and can die knowing that he has a pretty damn good replacement.

>>93602181
I never get consistent result. I've received ISTJ, INTJ, & INTP.
>ISTJ - most of the time.
>INTJ - some of the time.
>INTP - just got this one.

>>93602633
Bruce seems like he's going to have a happy ending, his "son" is living up to the name Batman, he seemed to repair his relationship with most of old allies, and could be dying with his family surrounding him.

>>93602471
>realism
Realistically, lots of people lose their parents at a young age, but they move on, and they sure as fuck don't cause untold death and suffering due to an insistence on forcing their own narrow-minded viewpoint on their peers.

>>93602671
It's probably because Myers Briggs personality types are a load of bullshit and people act differently depending on their mood

>>93602924
>and they sure as fuck don't cause untold death and suffering due to an insistence on forcing their own narrow-minded viewpoint on their peers.
Because clearly it's Batman's fault that villains hurt people.

>>93602924
yeah you could make the case that most people move on, but without stereotyping them, serial killers don't just pop out of nowhere. vengeance is natural and so is heroism. a sense of wanting to change things and feeling good about yourself for it shouldn't be considered self-righteous. if anything it's stupidly brave

>>93598150
They were clearly friends

>>93603142
>bat-fags conveniently forgetting Brother Eye, again
It's okay when Batman does it.

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Will you stay with me
I dont want to die a virgin

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>>93604274

Deathstroke is a mercenary, right? Are there any instances of him and Batman temporarily joining forces because Deathstroke acts as hired security for a guy that Batman is interested in protecting?

>>93604274
>>93604288
delete these

>>93598167
Story of my life.

>>93601385
Alfred doesn't drift away he dies

>>93598122
>Be bruce
>Cuck adopted son
>Break up his relationship with his girlfriend
>Make it so he hates you
>Gradually distance yourself from your friends because you hate yourself

>>93605077
>taking 2.0 as canon
ishiggydiggy

I HURT MYSELF TODAY...

>>93605448
Not right now, Trent.

>>93599095
I agree. Bruce doesn't get a happy end.

The robins should get happy ends, though.

Dick, Jason, Tim, and Damian should learn from Bruce's failures.

>>93598122
I don't care to recall when he and Barbara got intimate, even if that was mentioned brought up in Beyond, but I think it all started falling apart when the Joker fucked up Tim, and the Joker ended up being killed by a gun by somebody Batman had trained.

That really fucked him up and as a result he pushed everyone away. His Bat family, the Justice League, even Diana and Clark just on a friendship level. Alfred had to have passed away sooner or later. I certainly hope there weren't League level issues that *needed* Batman, but even with that handwaved, once Bruce ended up pulling that gun on that hoodlum, that was it.

He lost everything, his family, his friends and crime effectively won. So much for his mission, until Terry came along anyway and proved not just that the world Needs Batman but that a Batman will be there for the world. But think of how much time he was just sitting and stewing, torn up by all his lost. I can't quite blame him.

>>93599095
>>93607755
Not you guys again. Fudge off

>>93601385
>So you wanna be the best at literally everything and have more money than god
He's not the best at anything really.

Didn't the companion comics say that Clark fucked off to Space for a while after Lois died?

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>>93604274
Ace is the one character I just can't into sexual, no matter how tempting those leg exposing tights may be.
I found porn of her once, and just felt terrible looking at it.

>>93602181
I got the Riddler, I don't know how I feel about this.

>>93599431
Yes the timeline changed with the events of the episodes, but he still ended up miserably alone.

His friends left him, Dick wanted nothing do do with him, Tims dead, and no one visited him in his old age. Gotham went to shit.

>>93599090
Holy shit this nigga retarded.

>>93598122
According to the Batman Beyond comics from the 2010s...
He kept in touch with Superman.

Wonder Woman went off into Justice Lords dimension because THAT Batman was actually willing to reciprocate. She came back.

John and Shayera got together because the Shadow Thief showed up and killed Vixen and they live somewhere off in Africa

Wally fused with the speedforce

J'ohnn became a detective.

Everyone else is probably off in their own city. He still hangin with Catwoman from time to time.

>>93607901
Not the Worlds Greatest Detective?

>>93599453
>He hasn't read Multiversity
That's a mistake, fampai

I'm more curious as to how Bruce went from a troubled but good natured person who knew how to smile, to a joyless stone-face who always looked like he was pissed off.

>>93598122
Weren't JLU and BB supposed be 2 different universes but they decided to not go that route.
I remember reading something like that but I might have read that here so it might just be someone's asspull

>>93603773
One might even say Super Friends

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I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but didn't an episode of Batman Beyond state that at some point Superman get his mind takeover by Starro. Making him loses track of his personal life to focus on breading more Starros to take over the world.

That could be why Clark didn't care to reach out to bruce in a meaningful way. It was just a show that Starro was putting on not to make Clark seem suspicious.

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>>93609136

>>93609498
I wonder if the Golden Age Batman who killed people and used guns exists anywhere in the multiverse.

>>93609498
I was actually referring to the difference between Bruce in the earlier seasons vs. Bruce from the later seasons.

>>93609460
>Superman get his mind

>>93598122
The thing with Batman is the series is kinda explained in a BB episode with Shriek I think(villain with sound powers).

Bruce, at least in his head never stopped being Batman even if he retired. Even if he had friends and a possible relationship, this fact alone never let him settle down and become Bruce Wayne again.

>>93608834
I liked that book, lois telling superman to move on after she dies and clark finding another chance with a feisty firefighter

>>93601523
>I always thought Clark was a bit of a bigger Dick in the DCAU
Yeah no, Clark didn't get Barbara pregnant.