So is this guy supposed to be funny or something?

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>>93595687
no you're supposed to feel bad for him

>>93595687
He's the best character

Wait, what? Is this Ludo thread? FINALLY?

>>93595687
Is his mom supposed to be attractive, or is that just a weird thing?

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>>93595687
Ludo is pretty worthless until Toffee appears. Then he actually becomes great.

They really didn't think much about early Ludo and you can tell, but they really do completely salvage the character later.

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>>93595786
Actually he became based just when the season started.

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Have you praised your king today?

>>93595687
i honestly dont understand the hype around him on S2. He's still a worthless piece of shit.
He acts like a crazy weirdo, but hasn't done anything intimidating on his own. The fight she had with star on the cucked episode had star almost killing him. He only got away thanks to her feelings.
He sucks.

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>>93595755
WE HAVE WAITED OH SO LONG

>>93595871

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>>93595810
Might just be me, but I found Ludo way more tolerable in the later first-season episodes when he was suddenly in over his head. At least compared to when it wasn't obvious there would ever be a plot and it looked like the show would just be about him getting beaten up every week.

better image

>>93595858
This. I just find it hard to care about him and his story.

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>>93596146
you will care soon enough
Hail King Ludo

>>93595707
They made him "ugly cute" and in the 2nd season he even looks and acts more like Star, and when you realise it you start feeling even worse for him

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>>93596555
true, and also they shortly mentioned why he acts this way (because of his upbringing and family issues) and that just adds to it, now whenever he appears even if it's supposed to be funny or if nothing in particular is happening to him it still feels tragic and I love it
I wanna protect my boy, my... child

>>93595858
>Start off as main villain with a castle and army of monsters
>Squanders all his resource
>Takes everything for granted, thus barely accomplishes anything
>New bigger, smarter villain comes in
>Takes away his castle and monsters
>Tossed aside into the unknown and periless
>Survives on no resources
>Takes control and gains the respect of predators that tried to eat him
>Takes the lowly rats and makes them into an army
>Gathers even more minions from nothing, takes over people, and makes his own agriculture until he makes a mini kingdom
>Gets a piece of Star's wand, and steals the book
>Reveals that he's always been abused, and takes pride in still standing with the odds stacked against him

All hail King Ludo, motherfuckers.

>>93596630
Buff Frog needs to adopt him. He's a great fucking dad

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>>93595687
So are these designs suppose to be appealing or something?

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>>93596682
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG
I STILL NEED FANART OF LUDO BEING FRIENDLY WITH THE TADPOLES
why isn't this concept more popular within the fandom? Having Buff Frog be Ludo's dad seems like the obvious choice, plus it's sweet

>>93596682
What if Buff Frog felt on subconscious level that Ludo needs a father figure and this is why he liked to work for him in the first place?

>>93596885
I dunno why it's not more popular. You'd think it would be, considering Ludo gave him the tadpoles to begin with. Like, why hasn't somebody drawn him finding the little buggers all alone and trying to take care of them before remembering that Buff Frog would be the best dad for them.

>>93596900
It's possible. He always was the most loyal of the henchmonsters

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>>93596885

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>>93596900
>>93597029
my poor ludo boy
shit I would draw the comic myself but I fucking suck at comics
you would think that with a fanbase this big someone else would've done it already instead of drawing fucking lizard star or shit like that, I'm so mad

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>>93596885
>>93597113
I seem to remember the concept of Ludo and Buff Frog reconciling and Ludo helping with the tadpoles was more popular in between the two seasons, when people expected Ludo to learn from his experiences and become a better person

but instead he just learned from his experiences and got worse

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>>93597141
holy shit anon this picture is everything I've ever wanted and even more

>>93596555
The only time I really felt bad for him was when he was trying so damn hard to learn magic, then fucking Toffee had to go and fuck it all up.

Would Buff Frog be a better fatherly figure to Ludo?

>>93597200
not when Queen Moon offered him help and he refused? or something like that
>>93597220
are you kidding? he's best dad, heck I wish he was my dad

>>93597256
>Queen Moon offered him help and he refused

I thought it actually looked like Ludo was considering her help, but then Toffee took over (maybe Moon got closer to Ludo), drained Moon, and then things played out as we saw.

When Ludo wakes up again his impression will probably be that Moon showed up, pretended to offer sympathy but then wrecked his shit and blew up the temple, and then fucked off. And so Ludo will just see that as more of an incentive to go against the Butterflys since he still doesn't know Toffee's inside his head, keikaku etc.

>>93597220
Yes.

Shit, man, I think most of the dads in this show would probably be a better fatherly figure.

>>93597327
oh I see, I wrote "something like that" because I didn't quite remember but I'm glad you got which part I was talking about anyway
but
>ludo won't know Toffee is inside his head
he has Toffee's hand, he literally had a lizard hand with a finger missing, he would have to be retarded to not connect the dots

>be WoY fan
>lose one of your favorite villains in Lord Hater when the show isn't renewed
>new show called Star Vs. is renewed instead and has an unlikable joke villain

If someone had told me then I'd wind up liking Ludo as much as Hater I wouldn't have believed it.

>>93597649
He didn't know it was Toffee's hand when he was carrying it around and sleeping with it, despite the missing finger. He never seemed to think it was weird his wand was communicating with him. Apparently both he AND Star didn't realize the crystal in their wands is the same. If he didn't catch on then, he's not gonna catch on until it becomes even more obvious, like literally being told Toffee's used him once again.

Wouldn't be surprised if Ludo had never actually noticed Toffee had a missing finger the entire time he was working for him.

>>93597732
wait the bones holding the stone in Ludo's wand were Toffee's?! now I'm the retarded one

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>>93597771
Yep, there's a clear shot of them at the end of Ludo in the Wild.

Toffee just regenerated Ludo's own flesh around his bones.

>>93597816
so what, was the spell meant to actually create a second wand? how did Toffee get inside it if Star was the one to make the spell? what the fuck

>>93595858
He's not great because he's powerful. He's great because he's a good character

>>93597866
He was apparently counting on the wand getting cleaved and things happening the way they did all throughout that season.

Toffee got inside it because his finger was in the wand. When he got "killed" by the explosion, his mind transferred into Ludo's wand crystal because of that, since he's immortal, while the finger stayed in Star's wand.

People debate whether his finger was in the wand since being cut off or whether he put it in himself, but I think it's the latter. There's a shot of Toffee watching the lid close before the wand starts the detonation process that seems to imply he placed something in it.

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>>93597220

I want Buff Frog to give Ludo a hug canonically right after Ludo has been hurt in some way, and saying how much he's glad he's ok
I want some good hurt/comfort moments with them

What the fuck I legitimately thought Buff Frog was called Butt Frog.

>>93598137
Why?

>>93598137
so did Ludo

>>93598168
Because of that moment where his ass was showing.

>>93598137
His name is Yvgeny Bulgolyubov god damn it.

>>93596682
Ludo's like older than star.

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>>93595687
No, he's supposed to be sad until he sacrifices himself in the end to defeat the real baddie.

>>93595823
ALL HAIL KING LUDO

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>>93598383
>baby hands

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>>93598383
>sacrifices himself
DO NOT

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>>93597220
Buff Frog can be Star Avarius' father.

>>93598474
fuck you cunt don't shill star in a ludo thread worthless waifufag

>>93598383
>people still think Ludo and Toffee will betray each other

>>93595687

He's based. He was a talentless brat who got shat on by Star the prodigy/chosen one, then crawled in the mud and took back his life by himself. He the found True Man's World.

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>>93598507
Star Avarius is for waifuing you mongrel.
Shes is the enemy

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Ludo is made for suffering

>>93598615
discuss Ludo instead you tasteless moron

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>>93598615
fuck i meant She ISNT for waifuing.
My bad.

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>>93598621
I like how they made the Ludo manipulation plot more fucked up when it happened yet again

the relationship going on there is sort of interesting despite them technically not directly interacting the entire season

>>93598686
STOP POSTING HER POST LUDO WE DON'T WANT STAR HERE

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>>93598803
Oops

>>93598830
I want Marco to fucking rape Ludo

>>93596646
Joke villains slowly developing into competant or threatning villains os the best sort of character development.

Ludo is the polar opposite of Jack Spicer and I love it.

>>93596646
This. He went from a character I disliked to probably my favourite.

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>>93598747
he keeps falling for it despite his best efforts and it's just tragic, he does his best but still fails ultimately, he's used and then thrown away, he has nothing
he definitely idolized (maybe he still does?) Toffee, and that just breaks my heart

>>93597327
>>93595707
>>93596646
>>93597220
When you go and rewatch scenes like this after hearing about his shit life and all the suffering he went through, you feel bad

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>>93599030
Oops, forgot to add the scene.

>>93598917
"just swallow it" re: Buff Frog seemed like an attempt to both emulate Toffee and take revenge on someone else in place of him.

Ludo probably believes he's dead while also holding him up as a standard, since he can't get back at him now

>>93599049
That subtle but smug Toffee grin in the bottom panel.

This is how ships set sail.

>>93599629
No thats how a whole bunch of Monsters end up dead, a castle blown to smithereens, and a Lizard man in a suit ends up ""missing""

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>>93599629

>>93599673
>turning down cookies for snuggles
tru luv rite there

Finally finished this. Would've had it up last night but lost power

https://pastebin.com/pnfe6Z6E

About time Ludo got a thread

>>93598883
Ho so?

>>93599049
>>93599614
well now I just wanna curl into a ball and cry forever, what the fuck, feelings are illegal

>>93600382
Jack was competent and threatening when he first appeared and quickly devolved into a comedy relief butt monkey,

Ludo starts that way and turns into an actual character.

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>>93595823
That flag is fucking incredible.

>>93595687
He starts as pretty much a stock kid's comic relief villain with jealousy and size complexes (voiced by Alan Tudyk, ofc). He's got some weird stuff going on upstairs that made him sympathetic and an easy mark for Toffee. Then his star turn at the beginning of season 2 made him a really bizarrely compelling character, and like every other damn thing in this show, miles better than he had any right to be.

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>>93601156
Didn't Toffee have him eaten (killed) by the giant chicken? Was the chicken pooping Ludo out again part of Toffee's plan?

>>93601308
he was kind of reborn after that

>>93601369
But did Toffee intend it to happen?

>>93601396
Possibly? It enabled him to survive the explosion, which may be what Toffee wanted if Ludo was always his mark for possession.

>Battle For Mewni is next saturday

>>93601468
>no it isn't

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>>93601468
>dont have work that Saturday

>>93601308
Front-facing Toffee is Bad

>>93601587
hope maybe this season they've figured out non-terrible ways to draw him

>>93598137

You're not alone, anon.

>>93598535

Exactly. The only thing that mars Ludo's character arc is that it was orchestrated by Toffee. I wonder if that will become a point that Ludo gets drilled on in season 3. "You'd be nothing without me, you'd be a carcass wrapped in a bag of chips if I hadn't been there to hold your hand" or something as such.

>>93601517
>working on a Saturday

>>93601689
People still do that anon.
Hell some even work Sundays.

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>>93601308
He intended for Star and Marco to survive the explosion, but definitely knew it (should have) killed all of Ludo's goons, Ludo included.
Buff Frog got out because Star warned him, Boo Fly could fly away, Ludo just survived because he had a meat and egg shield as a buffer.
Any monster with hate in their heart could have found the wand and the results would have been more or less the same, eventually. Toffee would have guided them as the wand.

But at the same time, Ludo only got back to Mewni from the void because he hit out of nowhere by a burst of green energy, into a dimensional portal back to Mewni that was somehow opened.
Did Toffee somehow cause both of those things to happen? I don't know how he could have, but it's one hell of a coincidence.
Ludo only finds the wand because he hallucinates Star, and chasing after her leads right to the wand.
Was it just a hallucination and another incredible coincidence? Or was it the wand influencing his mind from a distance, or even projecting Star as a magical puppet?
Ludo's mind certainly shouldn't know about Star's new wand, but "Star" has it.
And is it me, or do "her" eyes look awfully green?

Full disclosure: I kind of wanted the spider to jump Ludo's bones and fuck his brains out

I still kind of want this

>>93601709
You go America. Get great again.

Here only few businesses are allowed to work on the Lord's Day.

>>93597985
CYKA BLYAT

>>93601807

Retail is basically forced to stay open on weekends because muh profits, and if you're closed then that means your competitor is getting business.

Same reasoning why stores are open on Thanksgiving Day now here into Black Friday, because people just flip their shit if they can't save fifty bucks on a flat screen TV when they're supposed to be home eating dinner with the family

>>93601887
>and if you're closed then that means your competitor is getting business
Not if your competitor is closed, too. All retail should close on weekends.

>>93601938
>All retail should close on weekends.

I liked it when I visited America. We had visitors here who've never heard of closed shops on Sundays. It's amazing to see grown people being unable to buy enough food to last them three days.

>>93601739
The vision of Star could possibly be a magical thing where any monster in the immediate area could be led to the wand by seeing something they'd want. Could be a specific spell, could just be a property of the crystal itself. Maybe the crystal can somehow still sense what's going on with the other half, hence the appearance of "Star's" wand? Green eyes definitely indicate where it came from anyway.

The green energy hitting Ludo in space could maybe have happened after his wand had fully formed-- just like Star's rebuilt itself, the crystal would have caused the bones etc. to connect to it through its magic and Ludo was hit by the result of that. Star's wand reformed right after tossing Ludo away but Ludo's apparently didn't happen immediately, and it seemed like he was in space for a while.

Still seems hard to be totally coincidental that Ludo found it, but it's harder to believe Toffee predicted everything would happen to Ludo the way it did to lead to him even finding it at all. The stuff with the wand itself was obviously planned out since he had years to come up with that, but not the monster who'd specifically wield it.

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>>93601464
holy shit

>>93601938

I don't disagree, but that's the reasoning these corporations use to stay open. If my state hadn't been forced to be closed on Thanksgiving two years ago, I would have had to work that day. As it was I had to stay up until midnight to do a midnight to noon shift for Black Friday.

Believe it or not I actually ended up making a few sales that shift so I did get some decent commission at least. Some idiot felt like buying a mattress at 2AM. But in other states our chain was open at 6PM on Thanksgiving because there was no law preventing them or other chains from being open at that time.

Post liggers

>>93597650
>If someone had told me then I'd wind up liking Ludo as much as Hater I wouldn't have believed it.
Dude, same story. I couldn't understand why people like this show till i gave it second chance after BBtBC. Before that i was jealous because of WoY cancellation.
I even have friends who love WoY and even watched all of SvtFoE, but hate it because they are STILL jealous. While i realised that Disney could have two epic cartoons instead of one. I don't hate Star vs. anymore but still sad over WoY.

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>>93602279
for what purpose?

>>93602269
I'm a night shift kind of guy, everything feels unusual and dreamlike. How chaotic was it in there that day?

>>93601938
Why? So the business can make less money, employ less people (or simply give them less shifts), and people who don't have time to do their shopping on weekdays due to work or other obligations can be inconvenienced?

You're suggesting a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. What possible reason is there for a shop to close on the weekends unless they don't do enough business to justify being open? If you don't like going to the store on a weekend, don't do it. If you don't want to work on the weekends, don't get a job where that's a possibility.

>>93602378
Գնալ ձեր կամքի վրա, դուք կախարդական ծովահեն եք

>>93602365

Had a few walkthroughs, a few sales, but it was mostly quiet. It supposedly got really busy after I left that morning which kinda sucked because I was working a commission-based position, but I was just glad to leave.

>>93602492
Around here it's like a zoo where all the enclosures are left open.

>>93602488
I don't speak suicide bomber.

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>>93595687
>tfw Dennis just want to save his oni-chan

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would you still like Star if she VAPED?

>>93602542
That looks like Armenian

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>>93602594
No. vaping wastes too much money

>>93602594
This is not the thread for that

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>>93600251
Very nice, very cute anon

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>>93600251
Jesus christ these horny teenagers

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>>93602594
Damn it anon, my last waifu smoked, I don't want to go through this dilemma again.

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>>93599673
The love triangle nobody cared about.

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So like, what's the deal with Star watching Marco in the shower?
Is everyone just pretending that's an ordinary thing for friends to do?
Does Marco watch Star too?

>>93603291
Marco hasnt Seen Star's bare naked body yet
Star has seen Marcos body so many times that she could make a statue from Nachos chips and send it to the Louvre, all without magic

>>93603396
I think he'll like that her other cheeks have hearts on them, too.

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>>93603479

>>93602171
Shit, that explains why the green pew pew shot Ludo out of the void in Ludo in the Wild. Keeping Ludo alive was part of his plan from the beginning. And once again, Star could have stopped him if she wasn't a gigantic chokeartist and killed Ludo properly.
How deep does this keikaku truely reach?

>>93603583
Glorious.

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>>93602351
Procreation of course

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>>93603615
Good taste

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>>93600251
I've been holding it in all weekend for this

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>>93603583
>Hearts on her cheeks
>Hearts on her butt
>Heart-shaped pubes
>Heart-shaped nipples
Star is literal perfection

>>93603586
>killed Ludo
don't

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>>93603696
>>Heart-shaped pubes

>>93603696
Oh no all of these are hot

>derailing a thread about ludo to post shitty star aus
you guys should die desu

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>>93603783
>complaining 24/7 about Ludo not being posted 24/7

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I just want to remind everyone that Dennis is gonna die or be physically injured heavilly in some way and it will be Ludo's fault

http://moringmark.tumblr.com/post/162435511668/patreon
It won't be exactly like this, but it'll be close

>>93603849
I keep thinking he should have three nipples to match his three beard tentacles

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>>93603849
>Kill them all...

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>>93603878
Star only has one daddy.
andhisnameisMarcoDiaz

Look at those precious alternative posters for season one
https://www.behance.net/gallery/54379453/Star-vs-the-Forces-of-Evil-Fan-Posters-Season-1

>>93603890
I love that Toffee wields a giant fucking sickle it's so badass

>>93604009
Those are pretty cool anon

>>93603868
>beard tentacles
>monster arm returns as monster tentacles growing from Ludo's face
why i can't unsee it

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>>93604009
These are really nice, but not quite as good as the original artstyle.
That one for "Interdimensional Field Trip" is 10/10 though.

>>93604011
It's also ridiculously inept, but hey.

>>93604123
Marco looks like he has a nice view

>>93604157
P-pink?

>>93604152
When your borderline immortal, you can make anything work. It may just have been all they had though, wouldn't suprise me if the monsters never even had proper weaponry.

>>93603849
I want this to happen so bad oh god

>>93604152
Toffee wasnt very fond of Using a Knifegun or a 7 chamber pistol

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>>93604157
The perks of living with a princess.

Why is he named Toffee

It seems like an odd conclusion to come to and I want to know the process behind that decision

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>>93604301
TOFFEE
TOFE
TFOE
The Forces Of Evil

>ywn purge Mewni of Septarian filth

>>93604301
>Toffee is a confection made by caramelizing sugar or molasses
>While being prepared, toffee is sometimes mixed with nuts or raisins
>The process of making toffee requires the boiling of ingredients until the mix is stiff enough to be pulled into a shape which holds and has a glossy surface.
>from soft and often sticky to a hard, brittle material. A brown color, and smoky taste, is imparted to the toffee by the caramelization of the sugars.

>>93604301
why is Marco named Marco or Ludo named Ludo, or Star named Star, or River named River, or Moon named Moon, or Buff Frog named Yvgeny Bulgolyubov

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>>93604192
Until proven otherwise I'm still going to assume Star goes commando.
And when she does wear panties/bloomers they're either pure white or blue.
Maybe with a bunny print.

>>93604301
His dick tastes like toffee

>>93604301
Pretty sure it's >>93604336 until Daron or someone says otherwise: most obvious real word containing only the letters TFOE.

Sometimes people interpret it the wrong way and say shit like OMG TFOE ACTUALLY LOOKS KIND OF LIKE "TOFFEE," THEY WARNED US ALL ALONG, DEEPEST LORE and make it sound like a dumb conspiracy, but the character would've been named by
Nefcy or whoever because of how the abbreviation looks, and not the other way around.

>>93604380

What was SF13 staring at?

>>93604336
This is actually a very convincing suggestion. I'm on board.

>>93604361
Marco is a perfectly normal name for a boy to have, Ludo doesn't make any outward sense but it's also a name people have, River and Moon are a Moon River reference, Star is a cosmic magical girl, Buff Frog had a comic Russian voice and so gets a comic Russian name.

>>93604452
heart pubes

>>93604438
Nefcy said that Toffee isn't evil, though.

>>93604502
Source on that, especially after 'Toffee had killed my mother'

>>93604525
Eclipsa killed her mother and framed Toffee

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>>93604452
Star's butterthighs

>>93595755
>>93595871
Don't worry. Toffee will soon take over.

Toffee thread.

What's his endgame

>>93604502
Nah, she said he has a reason for the shit he does that isn't just "lol I'm evil," but that doesn't actually mean the shit he does he isn't evil or that he couldn't be "evil" himself after doing enough damage.

That's not to say Toffee himself is literally "the forces of evil" or anything, just that it'd sorta make sense to make the main villain's name a possible slight reference to that.

>>93604525
That one fan meet up, think it was in Mexico or something. Not too long ago.
Also, killing your enemy to repel them in a war of agression is literally as "nothing wrong" as we can physically go. Come on.

>>93604502
>>93604525
evil is subjective

We know nothing about Moon's mother, the woman could have been Mewman Hitler

>>93604574
>Mewman Hitler
>Swastikas on cheeks
Hmm

>>93604574
>Mewmitler
I thought that was Eclipsa

Eclipsa did nothing wrong.

>>93604536
Makes sense.

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>>93604592
But Eclipsa was on the Monsters side and didnt exterminate any Mewmans.
Hell all she did was Dabble in Black magic, that people were scared of and got Incased in Crystal by a retarded with gem nipples.
She didnt do anything wrong.

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Also here's Nefcy's quote on Toffee; she said he's "not wrong," not necessarily "not evil"

>Like, all the characters on the show, everyone has a perspective, you know? Like I really don't like those kind of over-the-top villains that are just, "Haha, I'm evil and I take over the world!" ...it's not very interesting.
>So I always wanted the villains to have a perspective, and definitely Toffee, I always thought of him more as a Magneto character.... Like, he's not WRONG, but he's... going about things the wrong way

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>>93602594

>>93604592
nah Eclipsa was a race traitor

Mewman Hitler would be someone out to genocide the monsters completely, not even just kick them off good land the original mewmans did but slaughter them purely for the sake of slaughtering

>>93604543
After hearing about what he did to Moon's mom, Toffee's endgame is most definitely death now.

>>93604502
>Nefcy said that Toffee isn't evil
She compared him to Magneto, as in a villain who started with understandable motives but has gone off the deep end and whose means toward their end can't be justified.

>>93604618
>and got Incased
They made her grow a massive bush and hairy pits, possibly a dick, too?

>>93604623
I wonder if Alex Hirsch saw this tweet, because that's what Bill pretty much was

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>>93604674
You cheeky little shit.
now i want a shortstack eclipsa

>>93604689
>not wanting horse-cocked futa mommy Eclipsa

>>93604689
Same here, same here.

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>>93604707
Horsecock is a bit far and should only be used on certain atrocities, but everything else im okay with unfortunately

>>93602056
>The stuff with the wand itself was obviously planned out since he had years to come up with that, but not the monster who'd specifically wield it.
I don't think he ever intended for any monster to wield it. The original plan was probably for the royal family to put the wand back together, so he'd be inside of the full wand. His piece getting lost wasn't something he had planned for, so he had to resort to using Ludo.

Whether he's the one who pulled Ludo back to Mewnie or if he just happened to be nearby is still questionable, though.

>>93597952
Plus doesn't it show the lid closing during that shot? I could've sworn so

But if not
Then I say the former cus it'd make since for moon (presumably) to put the finger in the wand after toffee fled due to losing the fight and almost dying bc of the darkest spell
I mean the wand is the most protected and significant item and heirloom in all of Mewnie
I'd have put it in there as well, always at my reach

>Ludo buys some toffees
>Carves small Toffees out of them
>Looks at them with sparkling eyes, says "awww"
>Then bites off their heads

>>93604777
What ending do you guys think is more likely? The wand is healed and Star rules her kingdom/monsters magically with her wand and Marco, or the wand breaks and she moves back into the Diaz's place.

Nice trips.

>>93604891
>Wand breaks completly
>Star is sad thinking that she'll never get to do magic again
>Moon goes into basement vault, takes one of dozens of replacement wands
>show snaps to status quo and we get another season of school episodes

>>93604777
That could also be true, since in that case he would still be able to use the spellbook etc,

Though doing whatever he's trying to do right now through Ludo instead would also have its advantages, so it could have been deliberate. Moon and possibly Star know about the possession, but given we know they'll be away from the kingdom during the movie he also may have been counting on that.

>>93604976
gettin real sick of all these "lol status quo" posts when the entire last season was the opposite of that, at least in relation to the status quo of season 1

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>>93604777
It seems pretty clear that, at the very least, he lured Ludo to him with the illusion of Star.
I can ignore illusion Star having the broken/new wand as an animation "oversight" if it was just intended to be Ludo hallucinating.
But the illusion clearly has green eyes. That's the tell that there's magic going on. At the very least, Toffee chose to bait Ludo then.

I don't know how Toffee could have opened a dimensional portal and somehow projected a burst of green magic into the void between worlds to actually get Ludo back to Mewni in the first place, but that's a different issue.

>>93602594
I'm into snuff

>>93604891
The halves make a conflict when connected and create two smaller actual wands

>>93598535

But you DID survive! Through sheer force of will, following your own set of rules. With your two hands, you took back your life!

>>93604824
Yeah, the lid closes. Probably closed on its own since it opened on its own for the unicorn ghost to come out, but Toffee's expression implies something's going on there.

>>93605053
It may be that he thinks he's won and we're all just retarded and overthinking this into an ocean-deep keikiau (or however the fuck you spell that)
But who knows, Nefcy is the absolute madwoman after all
She might have thought it this way

>>93604525
>>93604574
>>93604644
Seems pretty likely Moon's mother was directly or indirectly responsible for death(s) on Toffee's side of the conflict as well.

Not even trying to say HE DID NOTHING WRONG, just it could have been a case of retaliation. Also war etc,

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>>93604891
Of course she's going to end up as Queen, what would the point of this whole coming-of-age story be if didn't actually have to eventually assume responsibility and live up to what's expected of her, in her own way?

I actually like the "young lovers running away from everything for their love" sort of ending in principle (it's how Toradora should have ended), but it doesn't fit this show.
It would mean a lot more to see Star and Marco grow and support each other, to face their fears and challenges together.

where is that fistbump picture when I need it

>>93604891
The wand never gets fixed. The series will end with Mewmans and Monsters both residing over their own halves of Mewnie as equals. Star lets Ludo keep his half of the wand, symbolic of the two sides now sharing power over the land.

>>93605131
because Marco is gonna teach her how to bring democracy and freedom to Mewni and make it a good civilized place just like America

>>93605149
Daron might be a liberal but she's not that naive.

>>93605149
>Star and Ludo as reining King and Queen
>Studo endgame
Screencap this

>>93605197
God, I hate that in Korra.

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I am Beatrice and I approve of this show.

>>93605085
It's probably vague enough that they could go a lot of places with what he knows and what he doesn't.

At least in-universe it makes sense that he could've had this all planned out, since as far as we know for the last few decades he's literally just been plotting out revenge + waiting for Moon's daughter to get the wand.

>>93605253
yeah, I'm pretty fucking sick of the democracy is an inherent good crap that is basically the result of decades of Cold War propaganda and is still reinforced in schools today

Luckily I think Trump made many people realize just why almost everyone considered democracy a dangerous, risky or bad idea until last century

>>93605290
In universe sure and they probably will do that
But out of universe it looks like it was made up along the way t b h

Anyone else think Nefcy is hot?

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>>93605330
Bobby does.

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>>93605197
>every society needs democracy enforced on it

>>93605307
>democracy is bad

>>93605317
I actually think the wand stuff that happened in 2 seems like it was planned out pretty well at by the end of Season 1. How they show all the pieces of what will be Ludo's wand in the last shot, apparently show the moment Toffee could have put his finger inside the wand, etc.

It's his backstory I think they're making up as they go, and probably also his endgame plan.

>>93605377
democracy isn't bad, but we here in America literally put it up on a pedestal as if its the best system ever thought of and ever will be thought of

that it is an inherent good in and of itself

You can debate the best system and there are tons of pros and cons, but no system is inherently good and if you think it is, that just means the brainwashing was effective

>>93605462
Yeah that's what I meant
The keikaueorikkeiakiou (or how ever you spell it) is also either being made up along the way, or a result of his backstory being made up along the way

>>93605492
Democracy is bad, because it allowed corrupt elite to band together and screw everyone else over.

It was only meant to govern individual towns.

>>93605621
Those in power do that in every system, what's your point?

>>93605621
Thank god monarchies and dictatorships never foster corrupt elites

oh wait

>>93605751
Better one than a hundred.

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>>93605492
>we here in America literally put it up on a pedestal as if its the best system ever thought of and ever will be thought of
Because it is.

>>93605621
>Democracy is bad, because it allowed corrupt elite to band together and screw everyone else over.
I came here to laugh at you.

>>93605874
But anon-kun, the masses are idiots who don't know what's best for them in the long run. Democracy is nothing more than tyranny by majority.

That sad we technically live in a republic, not a democracy. Democracy just sounds better for PR purposes.

>>93606063
>we technically live in a republic, not a democracy
>American education

>>93606063
as if any politician even understands the difference between a democracy and a republic anyway

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>>93605834
>hundred
More like three or so.
Still no better because there's hardly any conflict among members of the same elite.

>>93605229
We can only imagine the assblasting.

>>93606063
Which sounds like "more people spared from unavoidable subjugation", making it the best system still.

>>93601123
Hails and horns, Ludo!

>>93605492
Although I consider our political world to be the best of which we have any historical knowledge, we should beware of attributing this fact to democracy or to freedom. Freedom is not a supplier who delivers goods to our door. Democracy does not ensure that anything is accomplished—certainly not an economic miracle. It is wrong and dangerous to extol freedom by telling people that they will certainly be all right once they are free. How someone fares in life is largely a matter of luck or grace, and to a comparatively small degree perhaps also of competence, diligence, and other virtues. The most we can say of democracy or freedom is that they give our personal abilities a little more influence on our well-being.
—Karl Popper, On Freedom (1598)

>>93601308
>"But then something happened Toffee did not intend. He was picked up by the most unlikely creature: Fucking Ludo again."

>>93606063
the masses are idiots who don't know what's best for them in the long run
This is absolutely true but I don't know what to do with this information and it doesn't justify tyranny.

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>>93606391
Who the fuck is that fat guy and the kid with the glasses

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>>93604336
>Star vs. the Forces of Evil
>Star vs. TFOE
>Star vs. the FOE
>Star vs. Dafoe

>>93605512
I think its fair to say the general outline of Toffee's current plans isn't too hard to follow
>Fuck, my finger. Gotta fucking dip.
>Spend 16~ years learning about the mechanics of magic and shit, formulating keikaku to regain finger. Read some books, do some learning on how magic works.
>Moon's daughter is now at an appropriate age to recieve her wand, Avarius shithead has a castle and some shitty forces. Both are fucking r e t a r d e d
>niceu~
>Infiltrate and subvert Ludo's men, use the manpower and fortified location to take Star's spic hostage. She's retarded, so she'll negotiate with terrorists alone.
>After ensuring Ludo has suitable means of surviving a large explosion, using knowledge attained during years of chillin', tell her to detonate the wand or I'll kill her spic. Star manages to destroy the barrier, but once again, she's retarded, so she still fails to move Marco out of it, and I get her to blow that shit up.
>Get blown the fuck up before the authorities arrive, clinging to the wand to land somewhere nearby.
>I am now the wand, good work. Try to find Ludo, but it seems that Star just lobbed him into the abyss to die a slow and painful death in isolation. Fortunately, I AM NOW M A G I C, so I save him with my magic dick. Make sure Ludo lands somewhere nearby, on Mewni.
>Wait a month or two, because fuck it. Now Ludo isn't a complete bitchboy manlet. Use my trusty holographic Star trading card to lead Ludo to the wand.
>Ludo's kinda crazy and won't question much now, so I can direct him even easier than before. Build up small force and prepare to engage Star.
>Roll up on freshly cucked Star and sandbag the fight. There's no point flexin' on Star, or letting either of them know this wand is far stronger than it should be, just here for the book.
>We got the book, now I use Ludo's jealousy to get him to open up Eclipsa's chapter in a remote location.
>Moon's here, fuck up Moon and MHC
>???
>Reattach finger with Magic
>???
>Retake Septarsis

>>93606420
They were Marco's friends in season 1 who kind of just stopped being used in the show after a while.

Which are some good Ludo/monsters fantartists out there?

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>>93604009
Man a lot of these are really fucking good

>>93606458
Why does it look like a good half of this plan relied on the royals being retarded?

>>93606134

>people don't directly vote on laws or policy, but instead vote for elected officials who will (hopefully) represent their interests

I don't know where you live, but that does not sound like pure democracy to me. Where's your education, again?

>>93606363

It's not a justification for tyranny, no....but at least our system is better than communism. I talk a lot of shit about our system of government but I don't have any better ideas.

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>>93606740
You can get away with really stupid shit when your dealing with really stupid people.

>>93606740
He knows from personal experience that Moon is retarded, she's married to River so her daughter also probably isn't going to be a genius, the Avarius race traitors are retarded for siding with the retarded Mewmans, Moon's dead mother that he killed was probably retarded, he seems to have experience with Eclipsa and if her little frozen cat mouth/tongue is anything to go by she might also have been retarded

or more simply than that, Toffee's whole deal is that in a world of retards, he's actually not one

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>>93606907
I doubt Eclipsa was a retard Butterfly, Hell i bet she was merely pretending for the most part and wanted to watch the world burn or watch them learn for themselves

>>93606391
cut out Jackie, Starfan13, Ferguson and Alfonzo and put in Kelly instead

Kelly is better than all 4 of them put together anyway

>>93607121
Kelly is only better than Alfonzo and Ferguson.
Kelly is equal to Jackie
Starfan13 is on a different scale and shouldnt be compared to those 2 at all.

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>>93607121
>Kelly is better than all 4 of them
I can't think of a more "literally who" character in any medium right now, to be frank.

>>93607139
that's fair

I just like making fun of Jackie

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>>93607204
Then perish, mortal scum.

>>93607214
you can strike me down now,

but that won't change the fact that Jackie isn't even gonna show up in season 3

>>93607248
>>93607204
We're not doing this in Ludo thread.

>>93607322
this is a star vs thread, not specifically ludo.
Just putting him in the OP image doesnt exclusively make it that way

>>93607322
Ludo is gonna get raped by Toffee for a third time in season 3

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>>93607370
I hope not, I can only get so erect

>>93595687
I know it can't last, but damn, this is a good thread. Thanks, OP.

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>>93607471
>that image

>>93607471
So fem-Toffee is Taffy.

What is fem-Ludo?

>>93607803
Lupe?

>>93607471
>raping fem!ludo and not regular ludo
what is wrong with you

>>93608493
It's so I can self-insert

how old is ludo supposed to be?

>>93609110
maybe somewhere in his 20s, possibly 30s at the oldest. don't think there's anything indicating an age range other than the appearance of his parents indicating what he'd have to be younger than

Nefcy says he's an adult, while his parents don't look young his mother's still raising an infant. Dennis also seems like a teenager.

>>93609285
I want to fuck his mom so badly

>>93609110
Old enough to grow a gross grey beard. Young enough to act like a bratty 4 year old

>>93609342
Though the grey doesn't seem to have anything to do with his age. It's just his default hair color.

An attractive lady from the show needs to squeeze Ludo between her thighs while he fucks her and I don't particularly care who it is, but the bigger, the better

do you ever just try to think about what went so wrong or right in your development that now the lizard man from Star Vs. is someone you want to fuck

>>93610214
I've been a monster fucker for as long as I can remember, and I eventually learned that we're all over the place. It doesn't really bother me that we'd be considered weird in the mainstream. There are tastes that make ours look tame. I wish I were gay enough to want to fuck Toffee but I'm sure his lizard penes are neat looking.

>>93610214
Eh. Best not to think about it too much, as long as there's no harm done.

And yet I still feel weird about really wanting to fuck Stan Pines

>>93610546
Do you think his scrotum is all puffy and red and oddly scaly like his nose is?

>>93610392
There's been a disappointing lack of female monsters in this show. Not including Skullnick, there's what? Lady Avarius, Squirrel Girl, and that porcupine chick?

>>93610579
That's correct, by my count. Damn shame. Lady Avarius does a lot for me, at least.

There will likely be some Septarian females shown later on.

>>93610577
... Probably.

>>93610579
"Fortune Cookies" features awkward cow-like woman and some kind of fem!Ludo. Not sure about the latter, she could exist as a gag.

>>93610579
Some princesses from St. O's looked like monsters from Ludo's army. One even looked Septarian-like.

If Ludo survives after solving Toffee conflict, will Star befriend him?

>>93607803
Lewdo

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>>93609570
Some people ship Brittney and Ludo
Brittney's got like no thighs tho, girl's a sticc

>>93611711
I hope not

I want an unrepentant villain that isn't painted as they are just evil

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I want to fug the abused bird

>>93611786
She isn't abused, she lost an eye in battle with Septarsis clan

>>93611747
That's a pity

>>93605377
Democracy is the worst system until you compare it to any other system.
Democracy moderates the worst excesses of the rulers, but monarchies and dictatorships can be better if the ruler has the people's best interests at heart and the conditions are right.
However rulers with that much power often have it go to their heads.

>>93612013
except that misses the two major problems with democracy

first a general failure of long term planning, when people get replaced every 2 years, Its hard to plan things over a 25 year period or longer since every 8 years at most someone decides to completely change the plan

further more, the truth is the people don't have their own best interest at heart, the general population has no clue how the government is actually run or how it should be run, they vote purely on selfish reasons, that's why we end up with budget problems, because people want government services but they also want to not pay taxes and they elect people who tell them that's possible and enact those type of financially irresponsible policies

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>>93612112
Clearly the solution is to democratically elect King Ludo to rule us all

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>>93611711
Star is not the forgiving type.
Maybe before when they were both just fucking around, but he's seriously threatened her and Marco's lives several times now.

>>93611711
Star isn't a befriender, and has weak Talk no Jutsu in general. I doubt it.

So when will Nefcy and Star become famous enough to cameo in a Trigger anime? When will we get a Star vs. parody in Robot Chicken?

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>>93612638
Trigger are huge westaboos and Star's Japanese dub attracted some high-profile VAs, so it's possible.

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>>93610214
>>93610392
>tfw you've been a monster fucker since forever and only started watching Star vs for the baddies
>expect standard Saturday morning shenanigans
>get adorable but resilient bird boy, sexy crocodile man who does both the suit and barbarian thing, and Palpatine powerlevel queen whose entire schtick is fucking monsters
And that's not even counting that the show itself is good regardless. Everything went so much better than expected, holy shit.

>>93613441
Speaking of the Japanese dub, how far is it in episodes?

>>93611799
you shut your whore mouth

Is Ludo cute?

>>93614833
No, he's purposely ugly.

That's why he came last in Nefcy's popularity poll.

>>93614833
"Ugly cute"

>>93613703
last one they aired was Bon Bon

>>93615633
Ugly cute, with the benefit of (if you'll please pardon the TvT term) woobie status.

Is ludo into bdsm?

>>93595687
I honestly find him annoying.

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>>93611870
She's getting thiccer as the seasons go on
Perhaps by season 3 or 4 she'll be fat and desperate enough to fuck Ludo

>tfw toffee also killed my mother(through diabetes)

12 MORE DAYS

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Every day I post here and think about just how close a girl like Star is to my ideal. I know you faggots probably think I'm being some typical waifufag who's putting her up on an autistic pedestal of worship, but its not like that. She reminds me of the only girl I was ever with. Tomboyish, but somehow cutesy and girly at the same time. Creative, nutty, eccentric. Super active but still capable of doing nothing and being ok with it. The type of girl who'd leave googley eyes on the stuff in the fridge just to see you react to it. One who'd intentionally annoy you with cute little songs she made up. Or one who'd name parts of your body and tease you about it. One that'd take you on some wild adventure she had planned but still want to cuddle up and watch corny movies with you at the end of the night. One who'd help me get back out of my comfort zone again, like I was when I was younger, where I almost felt like a kid again when I was around her. How the hell can I even find someone remotely like her? Is it all for naught?

Am I just wasting my time? Is the very act of finding admirable traits that resonate with me from the act of fantasizing, leading to my ultimate suffering? And nobody is perfect and projecting this image onto them is unrealistic and not fair to either of us? Where is the cure, is there one? What is life, but a see-saw of suffering and happiness, and the moments in between?

>>93619887
nice copy+paste action right there

>>93619887
Don't get too attached to an ideal. The person you end up falling for may be very different from that, and yet still perfect. I speak from experience.

Getting a girl is all about finding the right balance between being persistent enough that she has to remember you, and being passive enough that she doesn't think you're a tryhard or a creep. It's a very fine line and it's drawn somewhere different for every person.

>>93619931
>copy+paste action
great. now i want keyboard porn

>>93619887
Don't know what to tell you, anon. I've personally just given up - no one for me, ideal or otherwise. Now I'm just trying to wait out the whole long, tedious ride.

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I used to think the monsters in this show were meant to be reminiscent of the Sailor Moon-style "monster of the day," except the same guys each time and being the main enemy themselves instead of creations of a greater villain or something. Except now I realize that even though the S1 fight sequences are like that, the monsters are more influenced by the '80s toy line cartoons aimed at girls that Nefcy would have inevitably watched as a kid, and that she's actually cited as one of her influences on Star Vs. in addition to the obvious magical girl aspect.

The Butterfly queens would be the selling points of that kind of line, with the gimmick of wings and space-themed names and each having their own unique wands and cheek markings. The monsters would be their designated villains who are less cute/marketable and live in a shitty wasteland that's implied to be their own fault somehow, and this is just how it has to be because they're shit people in the first place, they actually like this kind of thing really, don't let them come near us, etc. But with Star Vs. starting out that way, and then going into this racism/segregation aspect and showing how it got to this point in the first place.

Finding out an enemy isn't pure evil and might have just reasons for what they do is a pretty common story concept, but the specific presentation of it here feels influenced by that style of kids' cartoon (and more of a subversion of it than anything related to the magical girl stuff, which is actually done pretty straightforwardly and isn't meant to be parody). Even the original title, Star and the Forces of Evil, sort of sounds more like a cartoon/toy line from that time than "versus" does.

source: I'm procrastinating so hard I ended up watching a bunch of garbage '80s cartoons

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>>93619931
>>93619887

>in b4 this becomes a meme with each character

We're so bored its possible it could happen.

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>>93620094
>the monsters are more influenced by the '80s toy line cartoons

'80s style Star when? I'm pretty sure you just have to give Ludo's goons more military/guerilla soldier styled garb, and they'd be typical 80's/'90s cartoon henchmen.

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>>93620374
Buff Frog especially.

I want '80s Star art to be more of a thing if it isn't already, but it makes sense the anime influence seems more noticeable

>>93616011
oh is there somewhere I can watch the nip dub. I'm curious to see suffering in moon

>>93621032
Just wait for the movie, then we'll see plenty of Moon suffering!

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>>93621032
I don't know about a full set, but there's at least a few episodes up on Nicovideo
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29062280

>>93598847
No, the universal constant is that star is a cuck. She'll head over to Marco's for that date she thinks he promised him only to find him releasing in Ludo's mouth.

>>93620094
Good point.
From what I remember, the biggest difference with the girls shows was that it wasn't uncommon for the monsters to be redeamed, either through the power of friendship or by removing some sort of corruptive influence from their lives.

It could be that Nefcy is expanding upon that.

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>>93605330
Yes

>>93624261
She sort of has a Shelly Duvall look going on, I like it

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Ludo gets ignored once again in favor of a fucking Columbine AU thread

>>93620094
watch the inhumanoids
no one ever talks about and it's cool as shit

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>>93625530
Being Ludo is suffering.

>>93624192
>the biggest difference with the girls shows was that it wasn't uncommon for the monsters to be redeamed, either through the power of friendship or by removing some sort of corruptive influence from their lives.
Precure in a nutshell

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Don't mind me, just delivering:
>>93626933

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>>93627275
I love you.

>>93627275
I gate you