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>list of failed /co/llaboration projects

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>list of failed /co/llaboration projects
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1. Arm Drag
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All them
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>>93577615
That shitty Jojo thing.
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>>93577615
2. Headlock
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BreastQuest
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>>93577615
>/co/ hunger games
I blame the jannys, it was doing fine and didn't bother anyone.
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>>93578034
How is that a project?
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Armbar
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>>93578066

The goal was tohave aresko win
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supermoms
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>>93578133
And that has been done before the /trash/ ban.
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>>93577615
3. arm bar
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>>93577615
5. the saskatchewan spinning nerve hold
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>>93577615
Any fetish project
They can come with any excuse, but it's just a few people who think with their dicks. It's not funny or interesting
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>>93577615
8. Moss Covered Three Handled Family Gredunza

incidentally that one is /co/ related in a way
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>>93578000
>>93578034
So glad these are fucking gone.
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Literally all of them are horrible. They are the most autistic shit I've ever seen.
Specifically the /co/-./co/, Breastquest and Supermoms shit.
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>>93577615
Avian Adventures

anyone remember that? Hah
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Armbar
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literally everything. Anyone with any talent at writing or drawing left /co/ years ago, and any attempt to get anything off the ground is immediately swarmed by fetishists.
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>>93578731
>and any attempt to get anything off the ground is immediately swarmed by fetishists.
Infinitely this.
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>>93578255
literally how?
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The danny phantom dating sim
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>>93578749
It's a Cat in the Hat reference
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Is Titans Quest the only succesful /co/llab
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>>93577988
i wouldn't say all of them, there have been good projects but they were very short
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>>93577615
WrestleDads and Food High.
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>>93579086
Premier Pulp is still going isn't it? They had a thread a weeks ago so I'd count that as a win.

Doesn't Lovely Ladybug have an ongoing webcomic? And wasn't that because her creator actually decided to do something with her?
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29. EEnEO last patch
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>>93577615
Armbar?
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>>93579111
meh, i mean more like that one time we had the thread where we would make an animation that would later be considered kino or whatever the fuck
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>>93579156
>>93578720
>>93578175
>>93578121
what's that?
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The Saskatchewan Spinning Nerve Hold
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/co/co/ was awful
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>>93579304
meh, i've seen youtube channels pulling off the jojo stuff better than /co/co/
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>>93578133
Who is Aresko?
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Golden Girl simply because /aco/ snatched her up and now make daily threads hoping an artists will make lewds of her
Majority of it is shitting out terrible ideas and shitting on any artist that draws for them that isn't gewdboi or VaN
It's like those Mrs.Katswell generals on /trash/
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>>93577615
Chris Jericho might just be the best wrestler of all time, maybe not the best in-ring performer, but certainly the best complete package.
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>people wanted to make a "/co/ sings" for Stefán Karl as he slowly dies of pancreatic cancer
>the entire thread devolved into people rolling for dubs and talking about "meme magic"
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>>93579484
> Not the best in-ring performer.

CHRIS JERICHO
CONSPIRACY VICTIM
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>>93577615
The list wouldnt fit that paper
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>>93579227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aazH11f4jNg
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>>93579382
Star Wars Rebels character, He was a general or something before getting killed.
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>>93577615
Every future one will make the list.
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>>93579796
He was a taskmaster of the imperial infantry and a top tier husbando
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The problem is that no one who participates in these things don't want to do the "boring parts" and just wait for other anons take care of everything while they do the 'concept art'.
There have been succesful projects to come out of this place but they're not considered /co/ projects because the entire thing is eventually completed by just one person.
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>>93577615
childhood
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>>93579987
rocket childhood
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>>93579111
>Doesn't Lovely Ladybug have an ongoing webcomic? And wasn't that because her creator actually decided to do something with her?
Yes and yes. /co/ projects only go anywhere when someone takes executive control, which goes against the nature of group projects. /co/ is incapable of doing anything as a collective.
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Motion, the qt trans superhero.
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>>93578681
It was a cute concept with promise, but if you're not willing to put an ounce of dedication and effort to it, then all the interest in the world can't push an idea forward.
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>>93578000
>>93579304
Yeah. Somehow it managed to last for more than a year, but it's finally dead.
Now if only we could get /mlp/ to stop their Jojo threads that would be great.
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>>93577615
Crisis of Infinite Kims giving the armbar to Teen Squad or whatever the name was for making a team with Ben Tennyson, Kim, Jake Long and Danny Phantom
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>>93578302
wel as long as you are happy anon,it's fine. Don't forget to use a filter.
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>>93577615
It's more painful to realize /pol/ has more success than /co/.
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>>93580692
So does /tg/ (especially them) and even fuckin /k/
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>How come my names on the list?
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>>93580949
them's the brake Jimmy Armbar
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>all those people that hate on /co/ projects

you are the reason why this board sucks
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>>93578000
that explains why I haven't seen it in a while That Daffy Duck meme was the only thing good to come out of it
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>>93580971
In fairness the artist went on to make her own webcomic.
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>>93580976
Maybe the board should think of less stupid projects.
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Let's be real, how many drawfags are willing to draw someone else's original content for free? The only way any of these projects are going to get off the ground is if someone will spend money on them to commission artists, and with no real fiscal return on that investment, it's just not worth it in the end.
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>>93580976
If they actually committed to a project finished it and avoided the blatant fetish fuel, maybe they'd be taken seriously
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>>93581082
Hey some of our best characters are fetish fuel.
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>>93581065
Very much this.

I remember that whole /co/verse project that started up a few weeks ago. I looked into one of their threads like last week and they were trying to guilt trip artists into joining. That's not how you do it, you want to get it done? You need to pay up.

Artist could draw a sketch or one picture for free but asking them to do an entire comic? Even if it's just five pages that shit takes time if you wanted it to be inked and colored. Who the hell would do that for free when there's not really any benefit from it?
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>>93580976
They are fucking lame and incredibly autistic. Look at all the retarded fetish shit those dipshits makes. Also, 99% of /co/ are horrible writers and artist.
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>>93581150

I was actually in the discord explaining just that, like even as a writer, the best I can do is hope that my script really really appeals to an artist because otherwise, I'm shit broke and out of options. And the thing is, assumed profit down the road isn't the same as guaranteed profit. The idea of getting someone in for free at ground zero with the promise of more money later only works with friends and family.
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>>93581082
there wouldn't be cartoons if it weren´t for fetish fuel
>>93581063
So far all of /co/ projects have been fun, its not like if we are doing something like: the annoying orange extended universe
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>>93581222

You really seem to be harping on about fetish stuff anon. The thing is, it's the fetish stuff that has the best chance of getting off the ground, because, again, sexual gratification from drawing something that appeals to them might motivate an artist to work for free.
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>>93580692
/pol/ is more funny. /co/ is a wasteland thanks to awful comics and even worse cartoons
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>>93577615
>itt: butthurt do-nothings who only want to waifu-post all day
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>>93581224
True that, anon.

Hell I've worked with fledgling writers before. I actually gave a friend of mine some money so he could help get concept sketches of his characters so he could pitch em. Tbh I actually kinda owe it to /co/ projects for helping me realize how to get organized for projects and pitches (sadly mostly by doing the opposite of what I've seen in failed projects). I know there's alot of talented people on /co/ but sometimes they just don't work well together or ideas clash way too much.

The best way to do a project on /co/? Explain the idea, get the people you need (keep it a small amount) then peel out and draw no attention to yourself. The less big your project seems means you'll have less heads nagging you on when it'll be finished. Better to fade into obscurity if it fails than have there be five threads saying 'NEVER EVER/I TOLD YOU IT WASN'T GONNA HAPPEN'
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>>93578034
>tfw was around for the /co/ hungry games
>posted a few characters that won
>lost all pics of that ever happening
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>>93581284
Anon, even the projects in this shithole are either waifu-centric or fetish-centric.
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>>93580692
At least /co/ isn't a zombie
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i can't wait for the autistic channel-tan garbage to become one of these
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>>93578302
fuck you they were fun
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>>93581453
>implying that's not board culture

I don't see any other boards doing anything meaningful. Why shit on /co/ ones specifically?

Literally the only successful """"""projects"""""" from 4chan were /b/ and /pol/ trolling, that's it.
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I'm seeing mostly resentment for fetish based projects which I completely resonate with, there's absolutely no integrity to most of them beyond making something to fap to like Channel-tans. But what's genuinely wrong with stuff thats not fetish fuel. I can't see anything wrong with /co/ aspiring to make a cross series fanfiction based on Jojo besides "I'm tired of seeing jojo." Imagine /co/ successfully made a collaborative fanfic of any capacity. That feels like something we should have done by now.
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>>93581613

>there's absolutely no integrity to most of them beyond making something to fap to like Channel-tans

>caring about "integrity" of original content on a Laotian stop-motion image board
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I was Stand Reviewfag[\spoiler] in the /co/co/ threads and I have no fucking clue how that lasted for as long as it did. I didn't even know half of what was going on about halfway through part 4. Parts 1-3 were fun in a stupid way and some of the stand designs were surprisingly great, kinda sad it died but eh.
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>>93581670
Sometimes being jaded and expecting the worst gets tiring. When you sit here on this site staring at nothing but fetish shit, it's refreshing to see everyone partake in something that isn't just that. It's fun and not the same old shit. Fapbait always overshadows trying make something cool, and shit goes nowhere until it sinks which was the fate of 80% of projects here.
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>/co/ makes fetish fuel OC that escapes donut steel thread
>becomes daily generals because mods are lazy dissonant retards who don't do their jobs
>threads become shitposting tripfaggotry hovels because blatantly ruining something is the only way to trigger some rule enforcement nowadays
>OC originators cry because they don't understand why nobody likes their masturbation fodder taking space up in the catalog that already features 20 billion waifu threads

Rinse and repeat
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>>93580976
>WAAH WAHHHH WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LIKE MY FETISH WHORING GENERAL

McFucking kill yourself
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>Skeleton in the Big City
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>>93581277
/pol/ is just rehashing the same old memes ironic to unironically and then posting it everywhere
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>premier pulp tries cultivating actual talent from /co/
>nobody cares to the point they scrapped the magazine in 2013 and are just now trying it again

Why is it taking this long for people to realize basement dwellers don't have good literary ideas?
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>>93581613
i agree 100% with this, im not even sure whats going on,


so tell me /co/.

why dont you like collaborations?
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>>93581256
>The thing is, it's the fetish stuff that has the best chance of getting off the ground
But it never seems to get off the ground

:thinking:
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>>93581746
So were the Jojo threads literally just retellings of Jojo parts but with /co/ characters?
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>>93582208
That takes effort.
And if I were up to make effort for something I wouldn't be here.
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>>93582278
The first ones were closer to the source material, the others diverged but kept some plot elements (like a corpse in part 7).
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>>93582278
It was at first but then they just borrowed premises and molded into interesting takes on the stories with creative use of /co/ content. Part 6 was an escape from Superjail, Part 7 was a Wacky Races. It was fun pitching ideas and seeing what we made of it all.
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>>93582210

Grey Goo or hostile superintelligence is much more likely to cause a mass extinction event before global warming but neither of them have happened yet
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I remember a few months ago there was some anon here trying to start up a project to remake Nutshack, but have it not be awful. I posted saying not to shit up /co/ with pointless threads, because everything here is just idea men poorly trying to disguise their fetishes as jokes that they inject into everything. I was told I was just being too negative and a few posts later it devolved into fetish shit and then there weren't any threads after.
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>>93582833
>remake Nutshack, but have it not be awful
But that's the whole point of the Nutshack, why would you remake it?
>a few posts later it devolved into fetish shit
Ah, there it is
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>>93582833
That's actually very disappointing but the anecdote got me good.
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>>93582833
Magical.
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>>93581277
>/pol/ was fun until the 2016 election
Fixed
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This thread is full of easily moved goalposts. Anything that isn't a failure gets "that's no longer /co/" regardless of how it started here, and there's no actual metric or answer as to what constitutes "failure".
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I'm still mad that they add tits to the youtube cat
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>>93577615
Avatar EU Project (the one with fat milf not-korra)
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>>93583048
But anon. What of /co/ hasn't failed? Channel-tans is around but it seems to me people simply dislike it instead of renouncing it from association to /co/.
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Supocalypse
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>>93583216
That's the third pillar of the fallacious arguments in this thread. If it hasn't "failed" and is still on /co/, then screech about it being fetishfags/waifushits if there are any female characters within 20 feet of the concept.
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>>93583212
As someone who tried working on it, I'm glad that it died. It was moving too fast for its own good and really did get boiled down to fetishism.
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>>93581299
>draw no attention to yourself
Good advice.
I fear a lot of /co/mrades want that constant feedback, that contact with others, validation maybe? People come on and try to start threads about a project to ride the hype, but they're better off working in relative obscurity until they have a finished product or something substantial to show.
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>>93583271
I don't get it. OP asked about /co/'s failures and people did just that. People talking about how they dislike what has survived doesn't contradict a thing. You just sound like a butthurt waifufag.
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post 1 good collaboration project from any board just one pro tip you can't
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>>93581528
There's nothing wrong with channel-tans
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>>93583340
Bruh, all I'm asking is "what constitutes a failure"?
Is it just "things I dislike"?
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>>93583348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryjmaD4cgKc
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Armbar
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>>93583348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myq-n9fqKaM

This literally was from this week.
>Inb4 it's trash
It's funny, well edited, and has several frames that show artistic skill over just joke edits proving their was talent expended as well.
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>>93583270
That thing was never going to take off, rife with too many complications.
The one anon's recent attempts to simplify it as just a bunch of superhero ideas folded is simpler but I guess the problem there was without a setting or premise to springboard there was little incentive for creativity to spark.

Still a setting where all humans are dead short of a few superhumans, which immediately is an international societal nightmare to maintain, there are no extraterrestrial life, I recall this being violated with a few characters created yet still retained as a general rule in that someone could roll an alien planet but no one could introduce alien races, there are three extremely narrow and contrived factions, one of which technically doesn't publicly even exist, so if you roll that you join one of the other two anyway but as a sleeper agent, which means you might as well just slim it down to two factions with spies and let those spies have their own agendas should they wish and a fuckload of powers per character due to double rolls is a recipe for clusterfuck.

There was admirable gusto put into building something, but with a foundation that murky it was never going to stand long or very high before things started to sink.
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>>93583482
>there
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>>93583482
That's some good work actually.
Br/a/vo.
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>>93583436
Seems to me that it's just shit that has died and lost all momentum or relevance to /co/. A lot of it happens to be fetish shit and a lot of people happen to dislike them it seems.
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>>93577615
To be fair, I kind of let the /co/llaboration project I started die on purpose since no one was even taking my input anymore.
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>>93583534
Okay, so follow up questions.

What is the bare minimum requirement of "momentum"? Because I remember waiting like, years for Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk, for example.

What constitutes "relevance to /co/"? Because from one point of view any comic or cartoon creation is inherently relevant to /co/, even if it moves off site after starting here, because it's still a comic or cartoon, right?
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>>93577615
That stupid Disney Princess Mystery Detectives thing
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>>93580971
I only recognize three of these characters. Where's Golden Girl?

>>93581053
OOh, really? What's the comic?
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>>93579304
Holy shit this. I fucking like Jojo, and /co/co/ sucked. It was a bastardization of /co/ properties, it was a bastardization of Jojo.
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>>93583579
I can agree with your second point I guess, moving from /co/ doesn't make it any less /co/. But for the first, when you see a project that had been going on consistently eventually slow down and stop for a fuck long time, everyone would consider it dead.
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>>93583549
Which project was it?
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>>93581613
The /co/co/ threads sucked because they were mainly one or two writefags who actually did shit and a bunch of "idea guys" sitting around doing jack shit. There were like 3 or 4 power players whose autistic ideas of what this inherently autistic fanfiction should wind up looking like, so you wound up with garbage like the hilariously bloated Part 5 and Part 6 which at some point dropped any pretenses of being a Stone Ocean fanfiction and just became... something really fucking stupid.
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>>93582380
And everyone was so OOC, it's annoying.
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>>93582278
We'd take a core idea from each part and more or less go from there. Part 1 used cartoon physics as a substitute for hamon and went into comedic/horrific timing, part 2 used South American super vampires trying to achieve godhood and added political intrigue plus a few stands, never heard the end of that one, part 3 was a world hopping quest to save a girl but added father/son stuff, etc.
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>>93577615
That Star Vs dating sim.
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>>93583348
Cripple girls
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>>93583657
How long us fuck long, is my question.
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>>93580981
The Daffy meme preceded the shitty Jojo thing. So nothing good actually came from it.
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>>93580014
>>93580014
To be fair, every person who's worked on Ladybug so far has been a /co/mrade, and there have been stories not written by the webcomic's author.
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>>93583664
It started okay. Once part 3 finished shit went sideways fast. I fucking liked /co/co/ but you're completely right about 5 and 6.
>>93583672
I always thought how it was funny how we were either too autistic or not autistic enough.
>you're just ripping off Jojo plots! Do something new, autists!
>stands in part 2? Lowly Worm a psycho? Fucking autists, get it right!
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>>93583348
Katawa Shoujo
/k/'s store
A whole thread's worth of customs on /toy/ depending on how loosely you define 'collaboration.'
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>>93583348
1d4chan.org/wiki//tg/_gets_shit_done
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>>93577615
I still feel like /co/ COULD make a good /co/llaboration project, we just need a handful of drawfags on the same page with a project that ISN'T blatant dick pandering.
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>>93583766
Some of the art was okay.
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That /co/ MILF project.
The Avatar alternate universe where Aang lands in the Fire Nation instead of the South Pole.
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>>93577804
Its ARMBAR!
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>>93583748
I think the last coco thread I saw was early this year, I'd say the baseline being a good 2 or 3 months maybe.

>>93583766
I will defend this single video if anything for being a perfect product of that project. https://youtu.be/NrIHD1syDLA

>>93583793
I always wondered how much was truly too much when we were making a fanfiction. We could have purposely went deep into autism.

>>93583830
Some great art came out of this.
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>>93580692
Even [s4s]
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>>93583824
>a project that ISN'T blatant dick pandering.
Oh sure if Marston does it it's empowering and iconic. But anyone else, dick pandering.
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>>93583840
And also the Earthbending Avatar fan project that happens after LoK takes place.
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>>93583680
>never heard the end of that one
Kuzco was launched into space
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>>93583348
/a/ sings is pretty autistic but it's fun and still actually creates a product
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>>93583399
But there's nothing particularly good about it either. I mean, at least they're not console-tans and have a pretty good comic now and then, but so many ideas and concepts are wasted or just not acknowledged and some -tans tend to be very OOC (i.e, Disney is nothing but "CN's booty lel". Not even a joke about the company wanting to own properties, just fetish shit). The TV industry is very interesting and you can even learn some things from those generals, but it's never translated to the art. I know deep lore will just result in autism and anons fighting, but give these characters some context within the world of television for fuck's sake, so they're not just a cute design with a one-dimensional personality of the channel they represent.

I actually like most of the designs, but there's way too many hair buns, Jesus. Bless the guy who stopped VRV from becoming another waifubait.
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>>93583830
The art was actually really fucking good at points, just mostly pointless.
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>>93583348
[s4s] OC albums
there up to 13 now
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>>93583983
Disney and Nick are actually really good characters, CN is literally just THICC though. There's nothing else to her. There are TWO [as]-tans (for... some reason), and they'bre both more interesting than main CN.
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>>93583579
A project can easily be considered dead when it stop producing any significant amount of original content and it ends up going nowhere.

The main difference between your comparison is that Ultimate Wolvering vs Hulk was a a professional project that was actually somewhat organized and it scheduled to be finished in order to generate revenue, it was the product of people with a set purpose.

Whereas over here 90% of the people participating on said project are just there to watch it unfold or to throw around ideas, it's a hobby for them, something to pass the time, when it loses momentum it can honestly be said to be dead because most people will likely have move on to other things, there is no future for a project if the heart and interest of the people participating on it aren't that high.
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>>93583811
>/k/'s store

what? do they just sell shovels and guns?
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I am really disappointed with Golden Girl.
It was cute, and amusing as it got started.
Now it's just an excuse for breast fetishism, bordering on inflation fetishism.

Very sad.
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>>93583579
I think you're actually touching on the big problem with /co/labs.

They have no real end goal. It's just "make a lot of content for this neat idea, until we get bored and give up". /co/co/ lived for as long as it did because there was actually something to work on.

You need set goals with any project.
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I was Taffy on /co/co/. Maintained archive, docs, playlist, booru. Did some stuff for part 5. After that I pretty much resigned myself to watching the story unfold. I can honestly say that /co/co/ was fun while it lasted. Would do it again. Maybe.
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>>93584005
Someone kept shitposting until we brought back the white [as]

Thiccfags hijacked CN before we could really do anything with her, although this is acknowledged among drawfags who want to do more with her
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>>93584146
Worse, it (along with the dreaded Breast Quest) have almost completely taken over the /co/ creation threads, so it's actively strangling other new concepts that might be worthwhile.
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>>93584146
If you think that Golden Girl's design EVER had realistically huge titties that's your own problem.

GG was inflation fetishism from the get go.

>>93584176
Both [as]'s work well, though I think that "fox" [as] seems a lot more like old Adult Swim, considering that Adult Swim always had a surprisingly large black viewership.
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>>93584206
>think that "fox" [as] seems a lot more like old Adult Swim, considering that Adult Swim always had a surprisingly large black viewership.

The creator did say that [as] is in Georgia where a large number of african americans live, so something around that line was taken into account
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>>93584206
Well when I tuned in, they were plotting comical hijinks, and teenage misadventures.

>>93584186
It really is stifling. I'd like to try and introduce new concepts, but they'll go no where because "gib tiddies" is everywhere.

Now it's fucking summer, so all the summerfags are here. Ugh.
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/co/llabs fail not because of the ideas, but because of the scope. Too many "idea people" who want credit for trivial contributions, who want control over others, tackling projects that few have the technical ability to accomplish.

I miss the days lone creatives gave us nice comics and fanfics out of the blue. Jealousy, shitposts and derails, and dumb moderation that sided with those who complained loudest put a stop to all of that. We're lucky to get spontaneous FotM threads now.
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>>93583858
I remember in part 2 we specifically stated at one point we'd hit the autism threshold and shouldn't go any further.
>>93583986
One More Time is still one of my favorite stand designs ever. Even moreso than some of the official stands.
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>>93582278
Now I remember, Part 4 was Eds trying to take over all the money's world or some shit, continuing on the fact of EEnE with crazier hijinks,

Part 5 was something with Plucky Duck and all the kids, nephews or relatives of previous characters,

Part 6 was originally an idea where all the teen characters from other shows were against their fate, and originally planned something with the same impact as with the Ireneverse ending.

And part 7 was pretty much SUPERHEROES IN HORSES.
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>>93584477
I think there's just a lack of good ideas really. I think that Channeltans was the last /co/ idea that caught on with more than one or two lone drawfags. I don't like them myself but they WERE a good concept.
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>>93584005
Your right, CN is more like a mascot. She has the most fanart and even got some attention outside this site. I think her bland personality has a lot to do with her bland programming, so having nothing but an obsession with TTG seems fitting.

>Disney and Nick are actually really good characters

Nick and Viacom -tans in general are the best out of the big three because of how close-knit the company's channels already are, so they make a convincing family. Hell, even KnowYourMeme agrees Nick is best girl.
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>>93584522
If I remember correctly Part 5 was Plucky and Rolf forming a rebellion against some super conglomerate megacorp type, which got really confusing really quickly.

Part 6 was basically "Dora in Superjail". Also piss off the writefags there straight up said from the get go that they didn't want an Ireneverse ending or anything even remotely similar to it, which defeated the whole point of the part.

Part 8 obviously never happened, but the rough idea at the time was something to do with fandom autismo, though I feel like it would have had to have been scrapped eventually because Jojolion changed a LOT since the idea was first formulated. I remember there were also whispers of using this part to quietly lift some of the more ridiculous character bans, like SU and basically anything that had more than one or two reps already.
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>>93584522
It evolved past that fast. Maybe not for the better.
>part 4 has Freaky Fred as Kira but also a fucking society of serial killer
>part 5 had demons for some reason
>part 6 had Superjail and low stakes because almost no one died for real. All fake outs and Superjail reviving people
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>>93584279
I wish Cosmic Crusaders anon would come back. He could at least hold a crowd without resorting to tiddies.
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>>93584612
But seriously can we just talk about where Part 5 fucked up? Because it fucked up hard.

It was twice as long as every other part, and inexplicably kept the PROTAGONIST OF THE STORY IN A FUCKING COMA FOR HALF OF THE ALREADY BLOATED RUNTIME.
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>>93584610
>>93584612
>>93584522
Part 5 had this kinda gang fights which turned into conspiracy with demons. I think. With the main team consisting of:
Plucky Duck, Rolf, Tuffy/Nibbles, (Handsome) Squidward, Toph, Dexter and Cartman.
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>>93584662
Too much villain of the week-esque fights, imho.
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>>93584610
SU was probably an overreaction, but at the time it made sense. SUfags were trying to take over part 2 by porting all the gem lore into the stonemen or whatever we called 'em, which would've made all the villains the gems and therefore half the cast would've been SU. The ban probably should've been reconsidered, but grandfather clause was in effect.
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>>93584520
>Part 4
Ed Boys and companions took on a society of killers, one of them being more rogue and dangerous
>Part 5
Plucky gathers a gang to take down Warner Bros I think
>Part 6
Dora tries to break out of Super Jail
>Part 7
Wacky Races meets Steel Ball Run

>>93584662
I stopped giving input around Part 4 but from what I observed, Part 5 became a real fucking hot mess.
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>>93584662
>>93584716
Even Reviewfag kinda gave up around part 5. Some threads he was obviously phoning it in.
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>>93584738
And eventually he just went away somewhere in part 6-7. oh, and there were spinoffs too! Never went anywhere
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>>93584477
Most board collaborations are just a bunch of idea people spitballing, which is why they fail. It takes someone to actually make something out of ideas, which people rarely have the time for. The singing collaborations are the few where all the people involved contribute
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>>93579208
Are you talking about pic related and the sequel?
That shit was great and we need to do it again

>>93583348
/mu/ releases like 2 albums per week.
Some of them are really great.
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>>93583854
Armbar was number 2
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>>93580971

>nobody remember Wolfbatman anymore
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>>93584812
There's also the factor of when someone comes to hammer out these ideas, a pissing match starts over what ideas should make the cut over others.
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>>93584146
Did you ever expect it to be anything else? Fetishism was the undertone from the start.
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>>93584708
That being said SU fits suspiciously well into Part 8. Around the same time as /co/co/ I was thinking of how it'd work if each part was translated into a single cartoon more accurately, and here's roughly what I got.

>Part 1: ??? (maybe Courage, keeping in with /co/co/)
>Part 2: Johnny Bravo (Johnny and Carl kicking ass across America and Europe vs. "Weird Al" Yankovic and his team of immortal celebrity guest stars
>Part 3: Barnaclecrust Crusaders (Plankton did the thing, and now Spongebob, Patrick, Sandy, Squidward, Mr. Krabs, and later Gary must unite on a quest to defeat him and his band of minions)
>Part 4: Gravity is Infallible (I really liked this one, there was sort of the idea of turning Dipper and Mabel into twin protagonists, with Mabel having the overpowered punchghost and Dipper having the more strategic Echoes-type stand. Also had this sick idea for a Weirdmaggedon ending where nearly the entire main cast sans Mabel dies temporarily)
>Part 5: Gassy Wind (This one is cheating, but it's basically Grim Adventures of the KND. So the main KND team fill the spot of Bruno's gang, and Billy and Mandy fill in for Giorno and Trish. Dunno what Grim would be doing. Polnareff maybe?)
>Part 6: homestuck. the reference makes sense if you've read Act 6.
>Part 7: Adventure Time. I just really liked the idea of Princess Bubblegum as a maniacal tyrant. This one gets a bit cheaty as well with the crossovers, mainly because I liked the idea of making Bender Wekapipo. The "Spin" here is replaced by the idea of the "Stretch".
>Part 8: SU. I dunno, between the fusions and the rock people it just seemed right. Lars is Joshuu.
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>>93584860
That was a fun promo, even if it was filler for a commercial break.
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>>93577615
Publisher-tans.
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>>93584610
Part 8 was about Ethan from CAD going full Pucci and trying to reset the universe, but yeah back then the only plot elements from JoJolion were the Wall Eyes and Gappy being a fusion.

>>93584662
It could be worse, the original idea was that Plucky was a red herring and was put into a coma near the beginning.
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>>93584612
>>93584662
Anyways, my big issue and where I saw the /co//co/ thing dying is that the Part 6 idea went inmediately off the rails with BITCHYOUGUESSEDIT waifu-shit.

And also, I remember one of the plans were making Juniper Lee one of the protags, Mac and Frankie side characters, but I actually don't remember anything about the villain.

Wasn't it The Warden?
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>>93585053
That's how it should've been, honestly. Having the whole fighting his inner demon thing cheapened the joke and bloated the thing. Although I think Wayward Son got okay art.
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>>93581053
wait what webcomic is that?
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>>93585079
The Warden was always the villain. Part 6 was supposed to be a joke on waifu culture, but of course things went sideways.
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>>93584865
I just don't get why projects have to be ruined by some faggot because his idea was rejected. Just stay on board and keep suggesting more ideas. If you're a good writer, you can make it work. You don't have bad artists fighting with good artists because their art is represented more.
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>>93585079
Making the main cast mostly girls was indeed a savage blow to the quality of part 6 discussion. That should have been expected.

I remember Dora was the main protag. I'm sure The Warden was the main protag and Judge Dredd his right hand as well as XANA as a security AI something.
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>>93585079
>waifu-shit
The original draft of that part (way back at the start of the project) was going to be all about waifus, only after part 5 was done people stopped to rethink that.

>Wasn't it The Warden?
Yes
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>>93585155
>Warden as Protag
Antagonist rather
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>>93585155
And also, I remember that while most of the villains had some obvious copy-paste from their Jojo counterparts, the project eventually had evolved and made them actually be sorta more interesting, especially Kuzco.

So what was the original plan with The Warden?
Now that I think of it, I also don't remember which were the villains of Part 4, 5 and 7.
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>>93585239
Part 5 had rival gangs. Main villain was Patrick, who was the red herring, while the actual villain was Red Guy, who took over Warner Bros. or something.
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>>93585239
>Part 4
Freaky Fred and the Lonely Hearts Club
>Part 5
Red Guy, Him, Telephone Avatar and Patrick
>Part 7
Mister Nobody, Wizard Daffy and Stardust the Super Wizard
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>project starting up on making a comic together
>sounds like a lot of fun, join in
>"MUH PANDERING. MUH FETISH. MUH WAIFUS."
>never check in in them again
dunno how it went but given standards as low as mine, it was shockingly dissapointing.
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>>93585239
>Part 4
Freaky Fred was our Kira, behind him a gang of other serial killers
>Part 5
I think Warner Bros or some other nasty corporation which is fitting since businesses can be likened to gangs often
>Part 6
Warden wanted to collect criminals for some insane reason, Superjail itself was his stand I think.
>Part 7
Mr. Nobody from Doom Patrol, can't remember his deal.
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>>93585375
>roll digits for a character design
>"male or female?"
>female
>"body type?"
>THICC
>"age?"
>milf
>"skin tone?"
>brown
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>>93585380
>Warden wanted to collect criminals for some insane reason, Superjail itself was his stand I think
Power up his pocket dimension Stand with the lifeforce of the inmates inside, then trap the whole world

>Mr. Nobody from Doom Patrol, can't remember his deal
Erase the concept of "heroism", the funny thing is that no one in-universe knew what would happen if he succeeded.
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>>93585520
Oh yeah Part 7 got pretty deep with symbolism in regards to being a hero. Superman was even our Jesus.
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>>93577615
Earth Avatar set in the "80's" went pretty far for /co/ standards
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>>93581277
/pol/ started getting great again around the republican debates and stopped being fun post election when trump started going full neocon.
It's just a constant regurgitation of stale memes, shills, and T_D redditards shitting up the board.
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>>93585582
>Superman was even our Jesus.
Goddamnit, was this written by Snyder?

Oh hey, now I remember another failed projects, including

>Disney's Civil War. Some sort of stuff that was supposed to end in one of those hunger games or some shit, or at least we were supposed to finish that story.

>Disney's Bad End story, after the thing with GF's bad end universes thing that /gfg/ did when it was cool. some people were kept thinking about grim, sad stories for plenty of classic Disney characters, and how this eventually tied to Aurora being a hero in a doomed time.
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>>93583602
Lilah, Captain Rookie, Lovely Ladybug, Jetpack Viking, /co/meleon, Dragon, Motion, Striker, Six Feet Thunder, Shark Lass, Cynthia von Doom, Bees Kness, Appladay, Chaptor, Agnes, /co/nrad, /co/nata, /co/lette, Nicky Two-Vests, Jeff Paladin, Manny Quinn.

Amazing /co/ventures predates Golden Girl by several years. She did not exist when that cover was drawn and she does not take place in the same setting either way. She's a comic WITHIN the comic.

Amazing /co/ventures still gets worked on, just not as often since psu's actual webcomic takes priority since it makes money I think. I don't know how that works.

>>93585117
http://www.cassiopeiaquinn.com/comic/the-prize-cover
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>>93584855
it was fun although making a third wouldn't be as good as the first two
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>>93585617
What was the story for that one?
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>>93584652
He came back last week.

The OP pic of the current thread >>93571137 is the NEW pic he drew last week.

He's not drawing his comic right now, but he's around.

Come on anon, I know you're jaded, but pay attention to what's happening.
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>>93586316
Sorry. It's hard working up the energy to check in when it just seems to be 90% Breast Girl every time. I'm glad he's back, glad he didn't ghost on us, and eager to see what he'll do next. I just might ask somebody else about it instead of wading through Golden Girl thread #359 to find out.
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>>93583399
except being autistic

>>93584005
>any of them
>good characters
christ
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>>93586412
All of maybe 3 posts are about GG.
Most of it is writefagging a story about /co/nrad traveling to [s4s] to investigate if [s4s]-tan is using scripts to steal repeating numbers since last thread someone posted a pic of her and got crazy repeating numbers.

You probably aren't even aware of that anon who made a script for Rage Racer #1 and is now trying to draw stuff for it.

Or any other anons in there pretty much staring into the void hoping someone decides to speak up. There's a huge lack of feedback on everything that could even be considered interesting because no one is checking in.

You want good content, you gotta participate and just ignore the shit you don't like.
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>>93586637
Nah, I've tried that. 3 posts might be about GG or BQ in this one, but since there's only like 30 posts yet I can't say that's much of a trend compared to previous threads that are full of it. If there's a lack of feedback, well, that's because the only people willing to sit through that thread are the ones who show up for the tits. The rest of us have made peace with the fact that we'll just have to wait until these things burn themselves out.

I was actually aware of the Rage Racer brainstorming and participated in some of the earlier stages. I'm glad to hear he's gotten somewhere with it and I wish him the best of luck.
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>>93585903
>was this written by Snyder?
Or Morrison, since breaking the fourth wall was one of the powers that was going to be used at some point. There was also the idea that Superman's corpse could turn someone into the embodiment of heroism and erasing that person would erase the concept alltogether.
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>>93586637
>All of maybe 3 posts are about GG.
That might as well be 1000%
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>>93586717
Man looking at the last eight or nine /coc/ threads it's like that though. The boob stuff is at most 10% of the thread, then 30% is guys liek you complaining about how it gets all the attention, and the other 60% is every other project you COULD be a part of but you'd much rather go "NOPE THREAD'S RUINED MAYBE NEXT TIME".
And case in point, when you isolate the bitching and moaning, it makes it's own thread. This one.
If you sad bitter anons spent half the energy you do whining about waifus into the ideas that you think are so much better and more worthy we'd have an animated series by now.
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*sniffle*
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15 years later, Jericho is still entertaining
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>>93583348
/v/ the musical is pretty routinely great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5CBhPDQDr4&list=PLAX8JHUJcFR0rpwcXtyRm2jn1hTbMaCwC&index=4
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>>93580976
we arent
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>>93589769
Then who are you, a couple of wise guys?
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>>93588526

I did not go in expecting much, but the fucking normies bit slayed me.
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>>93590102
i'm pretty fly
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is /co/co still running or is it forever dead?
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>>93585148
But they're not good writers, they're not even writers at all they're IDEAS GUYS!
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>>93591152
I didn't know it died, is that the reason OP made this thread? I hope someone at least suggested a true Jojo character, Riot from Jem.
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>>93591296
I think op made the thread to highlight the irony of /co/ being the least creative board
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>board filled with the most tumblr is the one most likely to never deliver
huh
like how /v/ has yet to make a game as it is full blown reddit
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>>93578144
Supermom is my fav.
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>>93591558
That is genuinely insightful.

Fuck you /co/, you're not the worst, but you're doing a damn good impersonation of it.
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>>93583348
HWNDU, all 4 rounds
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>>93591885
nice
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>>93591885
lmao no
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>>93581284
>>93581284
Fuck off you tool!
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>>93584108
And pants, jacket, Patches, bulk ammo, cleaning kit, useless gear and novelty products and food.
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>>93577615
Trick question
/Co/ in on itself is a failed project
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>>93592165
why was /co/ created in the first place?
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>>93585582
>Superman was even our jesus
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>>93584604
>Nick and Viacom -tans in general are the best out of the big three because of how close-knit the company's channels already are, so they make a convincing family.

This mostly, I joined the group because of them and for company lore. Which was the most exciting part of the threads. Television history is very amazing.

>>93585049
That thing wasn't just forgotten, it was killed and buried with haste. That whole mess was a failure from the get-go. It didn't even last four threads before company-wars faggotry started seeping in. The only good tan was CCA-Tan, and he was introduced at the ass end of the failed project.
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>>93585489
you'd think /co/ would have better writing skills givan all the criticisms they have
you'd think even waifufags could bear to not think with their dicks for a moment
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>>93579497
Yeah, I saw that. That's basically the state of 4chan now. As someone said earlier in this thread, pretty much anyone with talent left already, and I would blame it on the steady decline of moderation and give-a-fuckery in general from anyone in control.

I really only waste time here anymore because certain boards act like news aggregates for me. Discussion in general is pretty much dead. Projects go nowhere, if they don't just up and get deleted.

In short, nothing amazing happens here.
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>>93583348
Orchestr/a/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czdn7sW9NCY

They're up to 3 albums now.
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>>93592844
or the fact that they love to write fanfiction to retcon whatever they dont like
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>>93582833
>idea men poorly trying to disguise their fetishes as jokes that they inject into everything
YOU DON'T KNOW ME
yes you do ;_;
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>>93583348
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=netorare+love+song
I started that thread and I don't even like NTR
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If we want to ever get something done, I honestly think it has to be some kind of Visual Novel with the board-tans.

Or at the very least, an "annual" with an artist doing a comic for each board-tan, ideally ending with the /fit/ Happy New Year comic
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>>93583664
>what is 99% of creative projects to ever exist
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>>93593470
an annual would be cool but I doubt anyone here would bother
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>>93591558
rlly makes me think
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>>93593470
>I honestly think it has to be some kind of Visual Novel with the board-tans.
as a VN developer I honestly think kill yourself
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>>93594258
Why the fuck does everyone think VNs are so easy to make? The big issue with projects is mostly gonna be the people you get. Think about it, there's a good reason most of us are on 4chan and most of us do not play well with others. It starts out fine then people start getring annoyed or bringing issues up over really petty shit.
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Jeri-KO ;________;
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>>93594585
what would Jericho think of adult men talking about children's cartoons?
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>>93594615
You wanna know what I think of stupid idiots who spend all day having nonsensical arguments about childish cartoons like the stupid idiots in this capacity thread here in /co/?
You wanna know what happens to those stupid idiots including you anon?!
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>>93578000
Thank fuck those autists finally got bored with that thing.
Only took them a year and a half.
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>>93580976
No, the worthless and uncreative userbase that never finishes anything along with the massive autism is why this board sucks.
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>>93594657
go back to toronto
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>>93595056
He's from Winnipeg, you idiot.
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>>93583277
Man I liked Legend of Shen too
Poi was best girl
Shen's brother was best boy
Kim sucked
Wang was radical
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>>93577615
What would it take to make a good /co/ project actually work?
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>>93584891
I would do the same, but Battle Tendency is actually Transformers.
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>>93595262
maybe not share it with /co/ until hes done so they wont have any input in it
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We'll never be organized enough to even put together our own /co/ musical.
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>>93595399
how many songs does a musical need?
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>>93595354
But then it wouldn't be a /co/ project at all.
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>>93595495
exactly
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>/co/co/ never used the fucking Decepticons for the Pillar Men
I'm disappointed.
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>>93595262
/co/ is filled to the brim with "idea guys" as proven by the constant "how do we fix this" threads, it's creativity poison at this point because no matter what project you try to spring on them there'll always be too many cooks and only two of them will know how to cook properly.
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>>93595262
Know what you want to do but leave room for people to build on it. Like give a premise in the thread and let the worldbuilding kinda take off there.

Since its a board thing keep it small, I cannot stress this enough. Don't do some grand stand project of 20 pages per issue unless you're putting money into artists. Keep it reasonable around maybe 5 or 8 pages (if you want them inked and colored then you better have a generous drawfag)

Don't get alot of people. At most recruit two drawfags and two writers to start it off. Keep possible replacements/back-ups in mind and be flexible enough that you can cope with the possibility of someone leaving (its a high chance on board projects)

Don't make a bunch of promises

Go to an offsite place to discuss things. You will NOT get anywhere if it all stays in threads.

If you're the Leader then be firm but understanding. Be friendly with the people you recruit, hear out ideas but at the same time don't take bullshit. If someone is becoming a problem or potential signs of it then issue a warning, if they continue then kick them.

Don't play favorites. Do not let someone feel like they are the most important person on the team, it will bite you in the ass later on.
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>>93580692
What does /pol/ have?
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>>93595700
They defeated Shia Lebouf at his "He Will not Divide Us" crusade. Twice.
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>>93595700
They won the election.
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>>93578731
>any attempt to get anything off the ground is immediately swarmed by fetishists and janitors.
4chan was abandoned by it's founder to get his other personal projects off the ground.
leave this place and thrive or stay and stagnate.
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Care Birds/Avian Adventures,
the Earthbender avatar project, Legend of Shen, which takes place after LoK, and the idea of Korra and Aang switching places/stories where Korra travels with Katara, Sokka, and Toph to beat Ozai while Aang has to deal with Republic city, Amon, Unalaq, and eventually Zaheer.
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>>93583483
You're thinking too hard.
That wasn't the problem. I could have easily solved those problems myself, and actually tried to.

The problem was the people behind it were a bunch of spazzing trannies that just wanted to look at the next shiny thing, create a hugbox, and not do any thinking.

Talent and ideas aren't the problem. Those aren't even the top considerations in most successful things on the planet (as you can see by how much shitty things are perpetuated), it's about resources, dedication, communication/contacts, and planning.

I tried to push that in that latest projected that started up, but got nowhere and lost the Discord info.

It's the people that make the project. And if the people are shitty. The project's gonna be shitty, no matter how good the ideas are.
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>>93595772
Funny, since he left and stagnated, then went to work for The Man
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>>93579464
Golden Girl is a fucking mess.
It's a fetish comic that's pretending to not be a fetish comic that only appeals to fetishists.
It's basically the Gwenpool of /coc/
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>>93595746
>poltards still believe this
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>>93583602
>I only recognize three of these characters. >>93580971
Where's Golden Girl?

being this new used to have consequences back in my day.... back when /co/ was more interested in making new content than attempting to catalog it's failures.
As long as any single anon from this board remembers these projects, they are more of a success the bulk of 4chan's userbase.
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>>93595354
>Dr. Pig
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>>93595808
That's all well and good, but consider your philosophy in practice a bit.
What is really achieved by bringing top talent to a bottom barrel version of an idea?

Imagine getting all of history's greatest writers and artists to work within the confines of Nemesis. It might turn out less shit, maybe even really good, but to what end? Admiration at the sight of their work would shine better if it wasn't used as a torch to illuminate the walls of what's still a squalor.

I'm of the belief sometimes it's better not to assign good people to a waste of time patchworking someone's bad idea. You'll just burn them out duct taping cracks that stem from the poor structure itself. Just ask yourself this since you say you actually tried to bother, do you feel fulfilled for your efforts? Was it really worth the fuss planning how you'd go about it all and dedicating yourself to basically bucketing water out of a sinking ship?

Simplifying the initial matter is just the simplest solution to avoid failure to launch, regardless of the complexity of who or what's involved later on when things are running smoothly.
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>>93596503
What about it?
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>>93595481
5 a minimum
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>>93592844
>you'd think even waifufags could bear to not think with their dicks for a moment
So full of optimism and dreams
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>>93581746
I was the VectorArt guy and the guy that attempted to make the game with Godot. I still think it wasn't as bad as people make it out ot be. The first parts were kinda fun.
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>>93596775
It's a project entirely done by one anon and it's one of the best things /co/ has made.
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>>93578034
they're on /trash/ you know
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>>93583680
>>93583937
best moment imo
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>>93597478
The roleplaying is too much autism for me to handle.
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>>93597434
Is the key to a succesful /co/llab is to not have it be a /co/llab?
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>>93596606
>What is really achieved by bringing top talent to a bottom barrel version of an idea?
I'm not saying throw good talent after bad ideas, I'm just saying that the idea doesn't carry the talent.

A+ teams with B ideas are better than B teams with A+ ideas.
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>>93578034
that's not a "project" tho, it's just organized fooling around, like those ancient "dubs die trips is the killer" threads
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>>93583660
The DP dating sim.
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>>93583817
Love can bloom keeps popping here and there usually in the /co/ waifu or couples threads, gotta love that damn extra heretical Drawfaggotry and Writefaggotry.

>>93583960
JIBUN WO~~~

>>93584855
Would a third one be able to even get made with the current state of the site as a whole?

>>93591885
Neck yourself fampai
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>>93583817
I am filled with nostalgia and longing for the writefags behind the Scraplootas to return once more now.
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>>93578000
To be fair, it did last far more longer than most /co/ projects.
I guess Jojo faggotry is strong if this did actually happen at one point.
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Moss-Covered Three-Handled Family Gradunza
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>>93593470
>If we want to ever get something done, I honestly think it has to be some kind of Visual Novel with the board-tans.
not enough /co/ to have threads up

>Or at the very least, an "annual" with an artist doing a comic for each board-tan, ideally ending with the /fit/ Happy New Year comic
that sounds really cool actually. works in a lot of ways too- annual so not too much strenuous effort and wide ranged for artistic license. do you invision it a certain way?

I wouldn't mind doing something for /y/ or /ic/ or some shit
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>>93598047
just why
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>>93593470
/co/ inviting other boards for a collaborative comic magazine about board-tans and other board OC would be a neat idea, probably in the same form of a Shonen Jump Magazine.
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>>93578000
The only reason I hated that project at first is because it started at the height of the forced "literally me" meme.
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why doesn't /co/ do secret santa anyways? it's pretty perfect for it considering.
especially now that janitards purged it off of /a/
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>>93580303
Do tell?
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>>93583348
Pokémon Sage, even if it never releases
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So who is a bigger problem? Fetish fags or Writers civil war?
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>>93598740
Former
Civil Wars will only happen once and can easily be ignored.

I have to deal with fetish fags every single thread.
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>>93598777
Please do tell,must be fun having virgins who demand you to pander to them
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>>93579227
Your going on the list
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why can't /co/ get shit done? what makes them any different from the other boards?
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Avatar Legend of Shen was fantastic, don't care what anyone says. There we're a lot of regards, but there was good base to work with. We all knew nothing real would come of it, but were enjoying it while it lasted. Isn't that what counts?
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>>93599718
Is the pastebin still up?
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>>93599711
autism
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>>93599711
/co/ never have put work into anymore or thought about it.
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>>93599711
/co/ is writer heavy and artist light. /co/labs are rarely started on a particular achievable goal like a short animation or a video, but rather taking a neat concept and stretching it out as long as possible.

The fetishfags and idea guys are typical to any board project but it's the lack of actual creators pushing the content forward that keeps these threads back. And the drawfags we DO have don't know how to write and rarely put up with actual writers, less with fetish/waifu fags.

Just look at the Dexter template thread. Almost no actual drawing, just meme face copy pastes in photoshop.

That being said /co/ FotM actually has a pretty good translation rate of concept to content, for some reason.

>>93600068
Actually autism is what keeps most projects afloat.
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What would a /co/mic studio be called? Something off a inside reference in this board
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>>93600267
Capefag Comics
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>>93600352
perfect
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>>93600267
Four Panels
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>>93600421
Four Panels' Best Projects?
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>>93600421
This one is pretty great. 4Pan Comics.
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>>93594585
>>93594657
This shit was so fucking gay
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>>93599711
highest concentration of anti weebs?
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>>93591558
>/v/ has yet to make a game

Nigga do you even Dorner's last stand?
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>>93599711

I'd say the subject matter of this board, mainly comics and cartoons have dulled peoples minds, narrowing down the possible ideas and approaches one could come up with. To be more clear, /co/ is often way too ambitious yet their ideas take few but absurd dimensions like a huge cast of characters with different and absurd superpowers in a immense and complex setting, this is obvious because atleast cape comics are like that.
Now to the cartoons which lead people to think everything needs be heavely comical and/or episodical in nature. The "fun"-factor of the combination of both is what creates the initial momentum yet at the same time, it is what makes the project too over bloated with fleeting ideas and repetitive jokes, even worse with one-pun characters, who were created because it sounded funny for a few moments but that doesn't help at all for a long term narrative.

Also its true that you get more people draw stuff if it is about fetishes but another way to look at it is that you get the "wrong" people if you really want to do something more complex with the project later. Of course if you want actual competent people, then you need to present the concept in a way more professional manner, which makes it seem like they will be commited to the project. You can smell ideas-guys from a mile away and /co/ is filled with them, so you'd have to do way more groundwork to get the attention of the talented people your project could benefit from.
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>>93600555
Sadly this. You have to be subtle with whatever project you're planning, if you want to recruit """"""talent""""""" from /co/ then go ahead but you're better off somewhere else
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>>93583303
I post things and nobody even pays attention. I think they think I'm an idea guy. But I usually get stuff done.
But I've learned that it's for the best that nobody notices me. There are long time /co/mrades who used to shitpost with the best of them who tell me they don't even think about telling /co/ about their big projects. Not even because nothing gets done around here. But rather because it's become such a viciously negative space.
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>>93599711
>why can't /co/ get shit done?
Virulent moralfaggotry that comes from both ends of the ideological spectrum, infecting moderation and alienating the kind of people who can get things done. /co/ is /pol/ and /sjw/, we get double the shitposts.
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>>93600421
>>93600470
I take it then /a/'s studio would be 4pantsu? 4panel and 4pantsu
4panpan?
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How can we encourage more /co/ creativity? Drawing tutorials to show how easy drawing can be and encourage more people to express their ideas in drawings? Am I being too optimistic because I genuinely want this place to be better
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>>93600970
I wonder if /a/ can pull off their own manga better than /co/ having their own comic
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>>93600992
>How can we encourage more /co/ creativity?
a good, fun and simple idea. it has to be all three. you can start in this thread even, I bet. hell, I'd be down if it sounds cool
and maybe a voting system of sorts to keep the random autist wet dreams at bay. only what the group actually wants to see.

>how easy drawing can be[...]
what level of delusion
t.drawfag and writefag
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>>93600992
Only encouraging threads I see on this board are How's Your Webcomic threads. Otherwise there aint stuff like Animation Or Comic Paneling General for lending advice to novices about stuff related to the fields. If we all decided to come together to make this board more encouraging and supoortive of original content creation I'd imagine neat stuff would come about. Remember Voice Acting threads? Those were damn fun but are rare as hell.
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>>93601216
>Voice Acting Generals

I remember the last one I saw being a year ago,oh boy
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>>93601216
given how little content is actually being produced here it'd be best to combine threads into one. other wise they keep dying or just barely surviving like now.
batman + HYW (animation would go under batman)
vocaroo + writefagging (someone to write for and something to act- two birds one stone)

maybe even have 'paperwork' to one or both where people trying to make it talk about the logistics of it be a given
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>>93600894
When did /co/ become so toxic?
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>>93599711
because /co/ projects are 98% idea guys and 2% artist that actually produce the content
and that 2% are amateur artists
you have to understand that the artists in /co/ content threads like draw threads are just doing the drawings for practice. unless you're willing to commission someone then no artist is going to draw your 5000 panel space opera about lesbians.
>>93600992
something along the lines of this. /co/ really just needs to pick up a pen and start drawing there own damn waifus instead of spamming drawfag threads begging with requests.
/ic/ already has all the resources but it is not the type of place for someone with /co/mblr mentality. They do not tolerate any type of hugboxing and are overly critical to the point of nitpicking. on the other hand /co/ is too much of a hugbox and any drawing tutorial threads on /co/ would devolve into a hugbox with people praising mediocre scribbles.
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>>93601401

2013/2014

when was dark knight rises
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>>93601200
at this rate, yeah.
a collab could be fun though
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>>93600992
>How can we encourage more /co/ creativity? Drawing tutorials to show how easy drawing can be and encourage more people to express their ideas in drawings?
I think there's already a thread for just that Work On Your Art.

I guess if you really wanted to coax people into the effort routinely you could do some sort of contest. Get people to do some kind of weekly simple but significant art challenge to indirectly help them develop their skills or weed out their mistakes. Best way for that is to make it so entries aren't limited to only on the day the contest ends, but instead allow people to continue posting throughout the week and get feedback on what needs improving so their final entry is as good as it can be and they've learned how to get there.
The top few winners get to request a commission of something, within reason of course.

A few bumps lie ahead though.
Firstly I'm not sure your availability of quality drawfriends who'd do this cheaply or freely.
Secondly is who'd judge the entries. If left too completely to an anonymous audience or vote, I hope I don't need to explain the issues you face when it comes to impartiality from the results if I do then just consider it's easy for someone with subpar art skill but access to several means of browsing 4chan or even friends to just fix the vote so they can grab the gold star without much effort. Heck, if a group of browsers agree on seeing more art of a character or fetish they can collude with each other to captain the threads to that end. This level of suspiciousness should be standard by now. At the same time though I'm not sure how reliably a fixed panel would work either.
Also some might find it easier to just demand and complain in drawthreads or elsewhere or just open their wallet to get the same result. Sloth can be a more powerful vice than greed or pride.

You could change what the prize is but I'm not sure what would be cheap but appealing enough to dish out weekly.
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>>93599711
/co/ projects are glorified circlejerks.
projects on other boards are more spontaneous.
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>>93600992
>How can we encourage more /co/ creativity?
Make it a red board.
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>>93601526
Cause that worked so well when Ren and Stimpy became an adult show.
Cause that worked so well with the creation of /aco/.
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When was the golden age of /co/?
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>>93601623
It's always been sort of checked hasn't it?
When things were very simple there was an abundance of good company.
When there were more streams, original content and media sharing there came bad company drawn to take without giving.
When there was an abundance of shitposting, spam and the like there was that still that sudden impulse for gift giving at the end of the year.
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>>93601566
Supply and Demand
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alright /co/ put your money where your mouth is, start a project right now here in this thread and I'll automatically be on board as write/drawfag (within reason).

here's some ideas + what was mentioned so far ITT
>rotating comic pages
>annual comic about each board
>improvement contest, winner gets a reward
>bring back an abandoned project
>something with board-tans
>a simple VN
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>>93601923

did you just miss half the shit that has been said in this thread?

Better join premier comics or some other project that took off without /co/.
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>>93601923
Oh boy another ideas guy
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>>93601923
Given the problems suggested, I like the idea of a creator driven annual /co/mpilation for around, say, Christmas time.

We get 7-10 decent drawfags or drawfag/writefag pairings that each lead their own smaller groups of grunt fags.

Each team works on their own 15-20 page short comic, perhaps taking place in the same "4Pan Persistent Universe", then at the end of the year there's a 100+ page story time celebrating the best of /co/. To give teams enough time each story would be worked on months in advance. Some deadlines for scripts/rough outlines would be set early on, so that we at least had dedicated fags working on this shit.

From there on teams would be free to run shit as they please. Wanna be a garbage waifufag with an inflation fetish? Sure, work on that story, if you have the team for it. Wanna work on something grimdark edgy, or ironically shitty? Fucking do it.

As a bonus invite /ic/ drawfags to help out and start their own projects.
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>>93579497
This legitimately makes me feel sad
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>>93601923
A collection of short comics (3-5 pages) featuring different board tans interacting with each other.
Artists/writers could go to the involved boards and pitch ideas, do some research about what sort of relationships the board-tans could have and learn some in-jokes.

Ideas for stories:

/a/, /e/, /h/ and /u/ have a girls slumber party.
They then decide to tell ghost stories and at the end, get spooked when /d/ shows up.

/c/ and /cm/ try to give /cgl/ to help /cgl/ make a new costume, but she just becomes uglier and uglier.
It ends with her looking like the most hideous person ever, so she decides to go home.
She sits down at the bus stop next to /r9k/, who still freaks out and gets very awkward, even tries to sort of flirt with her, which makes /cgl/ happy that she's still pretty for someone.

At school, /pol/ and /lgbt/ have a fight during /his/' history course. /int/ tries to break them up but fails.
Story ends with /pol/ and /lgbt/ falling in love and furiously making out (a classic).

/n/, /an/ and /out/ are driving through a beautiful park, observing the wildlife and having fun when they encounter /k/ and /ck/ viciously murdering a bunch of animals.
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When's the next Steam sale? I might have some dosh to spill as part of a competition I have in mind
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>>93602131
hence why I said to put your money where your mouth is

>>93602155
just said I'd do either job if /co/ can organize itself at least once

>>93602159
that sounds promising. imo start with a smaller group, like 4-6 groups. hell, maybe the 4-6 groups can all be givan a different genre.
all in the same universe does sound intriguing but getting everyone to decide on what kind of world sounds troubling. maybe also start out just seperate one-shots, and apply next time if successful
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>>93602159
Whats the prize? Not everyone wants to do it >for >free you know, some people need a carrot on a stick to keep going
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>Idea guys
I see so that's the problem with /co/, they're like the executives behind every single project in existence.
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>>93602496
Very few if any successful 4chan projects run on comission. The idea is to have the actual amount of effort any one drawfag has to put in negligable, to encourage project leaders to basically outsource assets to misc gruntfags who could whip something up with a couple hours in Paint.net.

Some sort of vague cash "prize pool" could be arranged but it'd probably create more trouble than it's worth.
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>>93601456
/co/'s core stems from two fields of interest, anon.

animation and comic books.

both of these fields require years of grueling labor with little to know reward, recognition or respect.
the sooner our little snowflakes understand what is required of them, the better. the ones that don't understand this come in all hot and bothered at first throwing themselves to every mildly interesting project that comes along
but eventually they learn the truth and then they disappear.
The ones that come in knowing know it's not worth it to bother or at the very least not worth it to do for free.

no amount of "YOU CAN DO IT" is going to change the nature of what this work demands of it's workers. there's no salve, tonic or cherry flavored syrup that will ease the bitterness that comes with working panel by panel, frame by frame every waking hour of your life... much less at the prompting of some anonymous fuckwit from 4chan spouting empty platitudes in exchange for a handful of (you)s and epin glory.

/co/s talent is too smart for this. they don't stay.
they open Patreons. they self publish like Pulp and Miss Melee or go syndicate like Cass Quinn.

so in the end, the only ones left in these threads are sour "idea guys" pissed that no one will do the work for them so the crabs starts pinching at the legs of all the others stuck in the barrel with em.
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>>93602338
It'd be sort of like capeshit where the setting would be vague enough that you could throw in whatever bullshit you wanted and make it work, but you could still create connections between works if you wanted to.

I also liked the idea of making a "theme" that all the works had to in somew ay relate to, something vague that could be taken any number of ways.
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>>93602546
At least executives are competent to a degree
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>>93602690
... and how does this make /co/ different from any other board?
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>>93602718
It doesnt. But its fucking ironic that /co/ has one of the best potential for original content to thrive but a board like /pol/ has pumped out more relevant shit recently than this board has in the last five years
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>>93602643
not that anon but I see his point. drawing and shit is much more tasking than the average board pet-project and incentive is reccommended. you could also split up the work down to tiny tiny parts instead
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in order for a board project to work it needs to be cut and dry simple.
for instance this >>93583482
simple concept, get a frame and have fun with it
no room for idea guys to try bloat the project with dumb fetishes as thinly veiled plot devices or jokes "lets have a scene where the MC has to wear a diaper as a joke ahaha get it?"
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>>93602778
>/co/- comics and /co/mmitment issues
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How many 'projects' have been ruined by fetishists?
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>>93602841
That's the idea. Have it be like "okay on Page three there's gonna be a sofa and a couch, and they'll be roughly in these perspectives", cue very rough form shape.

Then whenever an idea goy or waifufag shows up the leader says something like "either shut the fuck up or do this couch". Idea goy takes some shitty references off Google, draws couch.

That could be the ONLY thing this anon does, and it's okay because as long as there are enough people working on this checklist of assets theoretically there should be enough shit getting done to finish at least some of the comics. It'd be rough, you'd need somebody to go over the whole thing in the end to make sure that it winds up coherent, but you could make it work.

Maybe throw in an Amazon/Steam 30 dollar gift card, I can help pitch in with a prize pool like that. But it ONLY goes to the primary drawfag or drawfag/writefag pairing.
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>>93602778
>a board like /pol/ has pumped out more relevant shit recently than this board has in the last five years
to what end
are monkey's producing excrement to fling at others on a regular basis something really worthy of celebration?
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>>93602991
Technically none, since almost all of those projects are initiated by fetishists.
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>>93602991
Tbh /v/'s consoletan tuesdays run solely on fetishes /co/ has no fucking excuse.
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>>93582833
Good. Nothing like a nice dose of reality to break witless optimists' spirits.
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>>93603060
Boy and I wonder why we hate Dobson
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>>93585148
To be fair, why would you stick in a project if they're not going to use your idea.

>You don't have bad artists fighting with good artists because their art is represented more.
I'm pretty sure you do. Not just on 4chan, but in the professional world as well.
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>>93603196
Because we see too much of ourselves in him. That's why.
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>>93603034
sounds good to me, senpai.
how do we decide the spear-headers? voting them in? what would we do if workers can't agree on something?

reward sounds cute too. maybe throw in some doodles of their fav character, theme or whatever from other participants. and if we can one other doodle for each member of their team
how would we decide?

>either shut the fuck up or do this couch
I found that more funny than I should have. I love it

I'll see if I can shit up a division if effort chart in a bit .
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>>93603037
Those monkeys at least are producing something. Anything.
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>>93603262
Thats funny because I'm balding too

JUST
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>>93603212
>To be fair, why would you stick in a project if they're not going to use your idea.
because it's fun? because everyone should've been at least mixing/negotiating ideas?
the one time I joined a project I was okay with wherever it went however it went, like a challenge you know?
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>>93603356
>because everyone should've been at least mixing/negotiating ideas?
But if your ideas aren't going to be used, then you're not taking part in the mix at all.
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>>93598419
and that's why I let it die.
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>>93603392
like I said, at least a bit of everyone's should be used. if you're expecting solely your idea than why would anyone collab ever?
again, as long as you're enjoying yourself, you don't need to argue over dumb shit
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>>93603304
Spear-headers have to have some history of doing art. Maybe they have a comic, maybe they're just a drawfag, but they have to be aware of and prepared to deal with the workload. It will never be too much, but they will need to take charge, or have people who can take charge for them.
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>>93603349
my gran'nan always said to me if you don't have anything nice to say then maybe you need to shut the fuck up.
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>>93602991
2bh, I'm starting to think that this whole "fetishism is bad" shit in this thread is just one or two guys saying it over and over again.

Most project on this site, or even on other sites, have started with "oh shit that's hawt".

The problem with /co/ is that we have a very high standard compared to other boards.
For /v/, anything that's beyond a powerpoint slideshow is considered impressive.
But for /co/, because of the random high quality OC that's being dropped around every other day, when when we try (or more often than not DEMAND) to create a projet, we instantly want it to be Jim Lee Williams and Sinclar levels of good and have quality writing and be super in on in-jokes and generally be the most awesome thing ever.
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>>93603647
There is an element of truth to what you're saying,I think co suffers from being too ambitious when the majority doesnt have the talent it dreams of
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>>93603671
I remember a /co/ drawthread a couple of months ago where everyone was shitting on a drawfag because his faces didn't "improve" during the last 2 years.
The guy is doing free commissions while getting literally zero credit and you STILL COMPLAIN?

This place is fucking absurd.
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>>93603737
it ain't just /co/, other boards do it too
hell, /a/ is worse m8. when certain artists show up a mob will come and tear any other drawfags down just because
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>>93603647
>Most project on this site, or even on other sites, have started with "oh shit that's hawt".
Hell, arguably the most successful and famous 4chan project of all is Katawa Shojo and that's literally a fetish waifu dating sim.
I'd hate to say it but maybe it's time to actually blame the tumblr influence because you notice as that increased so did the complaining about this kind of thing. All the "fetishists ruin everything!" guys are basically just saying it's problematic with different vernacular.
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I kinda like this thread,really opens my mind and allows people to vent about this board
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>>93579497
ugh, don't remind me.

/co/ is so fucking pathetic it's more sad than it is funny.
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>>93597478
>>93597714
They actually are and a separate thing from the roleplaying, but they're not present all the time. They still follow the weekend schedule and bimonthly occurrences; August will have the next season.
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>>93592798
It also didn't help they hated /ctg/ for whatever reason, even though they could have helped them out.
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>>93603951
What? Why?
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Don't forget Windbreaker, the superhero based on the beloved SUPERBAD meme.
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>>93603647
>I'm starting to think that this whole "____ is ___" shit in this thread is just one or two guys saying it over and over again.
those are crab anons. some people here will say anything to convince you your particular flavor of fun isn't worth having.
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>>93600992
>How can we encourage more /co/ creativity?

the "work on your art" threads are kinda like that.

there were also those comfy "donut steel" OC threads, which i really miss.
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>>93604407
donut steel pretty much went into the batman threads
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>>93603983
Just because they wanted to make something better.
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>>93603983
Jealousy breeds contempt. They were unhappy that their project was dying on the vine and complained about how /ctg/ had more artists and they didn't. Some people even tried to push Marvel/DC tan's to the channel-tan threads because they couldn't stand those two.

The big, very big, problem /ptg/ had was company-wars, mostly against the big two. If one or the other had any attention, people whined about it. And when artists drew anything for them, they told the artist to either draw a lesser known publisher or just stop drawing Marvel/DC altogether. There were big winded arguments about that shit in many threads and artists left gradually. It also didn't help that Marvel/DC fans couldn't stay to one design and someone wanted something changed for the designs.

>I still remember that shitty DC hat argument

Some people asked why /ctg/ had a better project and we told them, "Have fun, don't take it too seriously and most of all. Don't start Company-Wars." They were told this many times, they didn't listen.
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The comic version of that channel tan thing. Fuck the guy that pushed that though he didn't like my drawing
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>>93604474
To be fair, you can have company wars with channels. TV is shit, we can all agree on that.
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>>93604046
There was a whole team. I remember one used beans
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>>93604546
can't*
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>>93604546
We do know that, and get into ribbing and jokes about who's best boy/girl. But, at the end of it, we seen what had happened to /ptg/ and made some sort of hive-mind like decision to never bring in that bullshit. We know most channels are shit, but we love the tans of them anyways. Besides, Viacom is best boy.
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>>93604431
i guess so. never really looked at it like that.

i just wish the batman threads were more active
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>>93604474
>Jealousy breeds contempt
really how the hell? having contempt on an anonymous clam-diving forum. not even IRL have I ever been envious enough to act on it. what is there to gain?
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>>93604852
It's not about gaining, it's about making others lose.
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>>93604658
It honestly should have stayed at three if we wanted to take it seriously, but you gotta appreciate the sheer amount of clusterfuck that chart has become. It's like a parody of -tan culture.
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>>93595700
They had a hand in bombing terrorists
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>>93604816
I'd actually post there if people bothered to actually discuss shit. people just dump their pics there and leave and then the thread dies
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>most of /co/ would rather complain about cartoons than try and make their own

Not surprising at all, honestly.
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>>93600992
Creativity isn't the problem.
Autism is.
/co/ is full of literal retards.
I blame Homestuck.
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>>93601526
I'm pretty sure that's /trash/.
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>>93603529
sound idea to me, senpai
here's the quick chart I'd said I'd do, it it's even readable. thoughts? questions?
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>>93581613
>But what's genuinely wrong with stuff thats not fetish fuel.

what's wrong is that it's either still someone's fetish or just a non-sexual autistic obsession of the same degree anyway.

also, /co/ is pathologically scared shitless of telling relevant stories. Everything has to be a ridiculously detached means for escapism to a pitiful and uncomfortable degree.

they write "character is tormented by moral dilema" but they can't bring themselves to come up with a true dilema for him because that is risky and doesn't make them feel fuzzy and safe, so they rehash the same topics from the same media with a dilema they were confident treating and knew a solution for all along and in the end the the story is about their childish self insert sorting out how to agree with them.
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>>93605718
I doubt we'll need more than one dedicated writefag. The whole thread'll have enough ideafags to sustain constant critique and shit. Hell even a head writer is only added when wanted/needed. These are 20 page oneshot comics, nothing more.

I feel like it'd be easier if this were all done digitally, which would possibly remove the need for inking, though I do not have a clue on how the logistics of that would work out for a team project. Diving out roles for cleaning up lines and forms does sound good though.


Spearhead is probably the one who makes/finalizes thumbnails and panel layouts. From there I'd expect some degree of fluidity with regards to helping out on projects, the expectation that some will flake out or switch teams eventually, so specific roles shouldn't be sorted out. It's more just "Spearhead gets final say in matters, case closed". If need be establish a Discord for teams to keep in touch off-site.
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>>93605718
this is more planning than I've seen in half the shit I've actually taken a part in and I'm (technically) a comics professional.
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>>93605815
That has nothing to do with /co/ flaking out though. Other boards don't have particularly deep story based projects either, and yes most of it is just "muh dick".
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>>93586637
>>93586717

>there's still interest for the Rage Racer comic
>haven't had time to work on it.

Shit.
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>>93578000
There were moments in it that I liked. I just took it as a fan fiction.
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>>93578034
They now run games on /trash/ and the next season is in aug

I did comics based off of the games so I think we were a project.
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>>93587742
Well, I figured I'd give it some time and wait to see if you're right and this thread turns out to be not all about GG and BQ.

Surprise surprise, you were completely wrong and it's entirely dominating the thread. But please, tell me more about how it's all my fault that /coc/ turned into titty central.
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>>93585489

i'm a huge MILF kind of guy and the sheer fucking shit taste these rabble have to make everyone into a "MILF" that's usually neither motherly nor fuckable is staggering, if it were for them everyone on earth would be fat old nigger bimbos.

they can't fucking help themselves, they keep piling ridiculous things on characters like Homer designing his car.
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>>93581228
>annoying orange extened universe
The what now?!
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>>93577615
Ptg
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>>93601923
Shark Gal needs more adventures.
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>>93605839
maybe you're right, but I'd like to break it down to very small multiple tasks rather than 1 large one. like say for instance something like
>team decides basics of story
>spearhead writer is all "MC is a demon tomboy milk futa blah blah blah"
>spearhead drawfag drafts her concept
>writefags worldbuild- what her room might look like if it's in the story, her background, her allies and so on
>drawfags concept art what that would look like
>editors proofread, inkers lineart ect.
something like that. there are many tedious tasks that could get split up

inking also includes shading lineart, shading and texturing senpai. and yeah it'd all be done digitally, physically is impossible.
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>>93605856
r-really?
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>>93605815
>also, /co/ is pathologically scared shitless of telling relevant stories
You sound like a pretentious dick and I'm betting you're one of the shitposters enforcing those DCEU trainwreck threads.
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>>93606107
It wasn't when I posted that.
Things have changed since then.
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>>93603647
>The problem with /co/ is that we have a very high standard compared to other boards.

if that were true most of the projects would have a lot more depth to their concepts instead of useless bloat like extended casts, "single episode" ideas and obsessions with references, homages and cliches.
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>>93606289

well that's pretty hilarious, i accuse /co/ of being immature and the first thing you do is chimp out and bring up a company war i have no stake in.

fuck your movies nigger, i haven't been to a theater in five years.

>>93605865

i think it does, because it ties into what this anon said >>93600555 /co/ is limited by the nature of the content it draws inspiration from, and not only have comics and cartoons delivered in a lot of quality content to get inspired from, they've also been very limited in variety.

literally 90% of /co/'s dossier of ideas are superhero-supervillain stories meant to "reinvent" them by doing the same things their favorite comics have done, or slice of life. There's characters but no arcs for them, there's settings, there's crazy powers and metaphysics but they're never put to use completely. Nothing ever goes anywhere because the anons are enamoured with a frozen state of an idea ready to fulfill it's potential and they can't quite interest themselves in the storytelling aspect itself the same way. The habit of being passive consumers is overwhelmingly strong.
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>>93605454
Why Homestuck
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Ain't it funny that Chris Chan Tier comics like his very own Sonichu or more obscured ones have had more done to them than the collective of /co/ has managed to even muster partially?

Yeah, Sonichu has more issues out than any projects thought up by the /co/ denizens.
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>>93577615
Armbar
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>>93607936
Sad isn't it
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>>93606223
It'd probably be more striaghtforward than that.

>SH says "wanna make a story about a redhead superhero who fights a giant spider"
>anons like redheads, waifufags join SH's team
>lots of ideas are tossed around
>SH works with WF to make basic outline
>WF makes script v. 1
>misc anons plan out different pages
>SH works on thumbnails
>misc anons work on concept art and design ideas, very rough and messy
>SH turns in thumbnails

PART 2
>SH with help of WF doles out tasks to individuals
>draw this thing on page whatever with x references, scan it and post it here or make it digitally
>maybe WF can be of use by helping put scenes together
>SH works on compex parts like characters, so try and limit casts as much as possible
>adjustments and tweaks made as needed
>If 2 pages get done a week the whole thing should take a little over 2 months to complete, max
>rough draft complete

PART 3:

>tweaking and final editing
>anons start playing around with panel order, help with cleaning up artwork
>focused effort now, no big changes
>everything gets turned in

PART 4:

>Three day storytime, each day showing off one or two stories
>gague feedback, etc.
>At the end hold poll
>winner of poll gets award
>also maybe judges' choice?

I should try and pitch this idea to /hyw/ or Batman, people there might like the concept.
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>Nobody remembers my /co/ fetish project
I don't know if I should be relieved or offended. I'm still really attached to the idea.
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Idea #567: Armbar
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>>93608442
Can Y2J save /co/?
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>>93608442
Idea #568: Mexican Armbar
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>>93595262
You have to be a doer yourself, or know someone who can and will draw and/or write.
Then use /co/ as a brainstorming. Among all the waifus and fetishes, there will be a good idea or two every thread. Then go back to making the thing and emerge a week or a month later to present your progress so far.
Do not try to make it into a continuous megathread and do not rely on anonymous internet strangers for contributions.
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>>93608341
imo sounds pretty unbalanced in terms of workload and that's a lot of weight you're putting on a few, but feel free to, lemme know how it goes.
before that though, this annual project should probably have a name of sorts. someone mentioned above 4Panel to another anon. I think that's pretty fitting if they're willing, at least for the time being
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>>93608830
Some of the best advice in this thread.
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>>93608860
The real issue is just logistics. How do you get 10 or so different anons working on the same comic?

A lot of the stretched out timeline exists in order to make sure that leaders can afford to put the slack on lackies.

Although desu we could also have the gruntfags do tumbnail and rough shit. The tricky part is just making sure that every anon actuay, you know, delivers.

We could also drop quality control and cut the comic lengths in half while giving a single anon control over a full panel. It might be more in the spirit of 4chan then.
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>>93608965
Cont- OR we could drop the competition entirely and make just one sprawling 50+ page comic where every panel is done by a unique anon. Think /v/ cover grids but even more autistic. Make it a dubs thread, where dubs decide what happens on a single page.

If we EMBRACE the autism rather than fight it, we might be able to make it work.
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>>93583348
Skullgirls kind of counts since the concept started on /a/ and there's several 4chan drawfags who worked on that game
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>>93583858
>not Tom's theme
https://youtu.be/9EI2cd5wfR0
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>>93608965
>>93609016
currently writing a basis one how this might work, should I keep going?
imo I think the reverse should happen where the lead artist does the rough shit and the others finalize it- puts lessens everyone strains and gives the sub-drawfags a lenient but solid guide (maybe even improving them)

the one page per anon thing could also work, but god not dubs-relied. that sounds like a true horror
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>>93609867
That song is godly but if it was actually a product of the threads I'd defend everything that came out of it.
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>>93609904
>That song is godly but if it was actually a product of the threads I'd defend everything that came out of it.
Apparently, it was originally a remix someone uploaded on Vocaroo, at least according to one of the comments from the uploader
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>>93609882
I'll have to continue this discussion tomorrow (if the thread's dead stick around in thr Batman thread because I'll bring it up there), but the thing is... most pure 4chan projects suck. They're endearing, occasionally good, but they are very rough and unfinished. Dubs magic and anon-a-panel would make the final work ridiculous, but also give a greater chance for that rough 4chan charm to shine through, make /co/ proud they did a thing.

The original idea is more of a "coordinated independent projects" thing, hence the main issue with workload. If the sub drawfags do the overlaying on the comic there is the risk that the grunts might not know how to do shit, a big risk.
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Keep the project short, like individual contributions 2 hours short. I can do the dumbest fucking fiddly time consuming shit for a couple of hours if i think i can get internet laughs out of it.

And even if you have relative success with the thread, don't start another one immediately after. Or if the thread reaches post limit in under 6 hours, then maybe there is actual interest in a second one. If the thread reaches 24 hours and/or there are any "bump" posts, don't start a new one.
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>>93609922
More Spell on You being a notoriously debated sample of Daft Punk's One More Time has been a thing for a long while. Not sure how long that particular remix had been around but the song's been mashed up a couple of times already I think. Maybe it was made by the uploader for the threads. Either way, it's a fucking great mix.
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>>93577615
Wrestledads.

It hurts
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>>93609949
>if the thread's dead stick around in thr Batman thread because I'll bring it up there
sure thing

>but the thing is... most pure 4chan projects suck. They're endearing, occasionally good, but they are very rough and unfinished. Dubs magic and anon-a-panel would make the final work ridiculous, but also give a greater chance for that rough 4chan charm to shine through, make /co/ proud they did a thing.
I don't see why we can't have both types. and yes, a panel-an-anon sound hilarious in the best way.

>The original idea is more of a "coordinated independent projects" thing, hence the main issue with workload.
not the way I'm thinking (at least I think).

>risk that the grunts might not know how to do shit, a big risk.
not sure what you mean, grunts get gruntwork, that being the things just about anyone can do
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>>93580971
I'm mad that Six Foot Thunder never happened.
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>>93608512
Sadly no
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>Disney Princess Sleuths will never be a real thing
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>>93610800
I wish we could seperate you cartoon fags off to your own board. I'm so sick of Disney Princess x anything. It's inane and lacks creativity.
Like /co/, I guess.
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>>93610818
I wish we could seperate you comic fags off to your own board. I'm so sick of DC/Marvel Superhero x anything. It's inane and lacks creativity. Like /co/, I guess.
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>MurderBurger
>BreastQuest

Granted MurderBurger was just fun art posting but BreastQuest. Man. Fucking BreastQuest. What a goddamn disappointment.
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>>93607936
Erik Larsen has produced more issues of Savage Dragon than Spencer and Lieber have Superior Foes of Spider-Man.

Where does the humor in this lie?
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>>93595262
>>93608830
>>93608897
but then it ceases to be a /co/ project.

that's the catch, don't you see? If you actually get your project off the ground your "progress updates" are now considered Promoting and Shilling and OP catches a perma for violating a global because my fetish wasn't good enough for your project.

/co/ is only allowed to claim it's losses and is actively divorced from it's successes.
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Failure is a necessity of success.
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>>93611339
What happened to breast quest?
Over ran by too much fetish?or did go the opposite and tried to make a point about the censor ship of the female body and showing two different opposing ideas about "feminism".

But I don't think too many people knew where the idea came from.
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>>93609151
>Skullgirls started on /a/
o_8 has been drawing Skullgirls since before 4chan was a thing.
Anon why are you telling lies on the internet?
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>>93598536
But we did just last december,sorta
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>>93611449
But /co/ doesn't even learn from it's failures
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>>93611594
Sorta?
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>>93611594
explain
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>>93613257
Why the fuck did you bump this thread
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>>93613272
because fuck you
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>>93611491
Neither, it just got to the point where art was necessary to the continuation of the project and no one could really commit to drawing the script that was written.

A lot of attempts were made, at least four that I know about, but each time it didn't get done.

I know Van was working on it recently, but now he's working on a Golden Girl comic.

Some projects just reach a critical mass where no more ideas can be accepted unless art is happening.
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