Amazing Spider-Man

>>93511528
this is some fugly ass art. what is even happening with anna marias face this issue

>>93511637
worth paying money for Superior Octopus' design.

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Listen you worthless piece of shit...
> IMMONEN DESERVES FUCKING BETTER!
> PUT HIM ON A ARES ONGOING NOW!
> OR AQUAMAN AFTER SEJIC!

>>93511622
I do like Ottos new look
>>93511651
Parker really is a shitty CEO

>>93511651
>>93511676
Legitimate question: Why doesn't Peter give control of the company to Otto? Peter is a notoriously awful CEO and he acknowledges that Parker Industries saves lives.

He could keep being Spidey and Parker Industries could keep saving lives this way. It would help more people.

>>93511677
> Thor after that cancerous bitch dies!
Would be nice also.

>>93511722
Otto will probably do some villainous shit with it. Like create a portal to DC where he can help Lex Luthor steal 40 cakes

>>93511607
Well, I have been noticing Immonen has been rushing on this Spider-man run.

>>93511694
Oh fuck...
Why Otto must always succumb to his Butthurt over Peter? I would like to read again Superior, I would not mind even if Otto and Peter worked together sometimes. It would be new.

Otto, you know what happened when Osborn put you in check. You needed Peter, because you know he's a true, but every time youseems to learn something, you regress after to the usual mustache twirling.

>>93511745
He wouldn't have founded the company and invest heavily in medical tech (he gave Cardiac a job) if he wasn't interested in saving lives.

I mean, the way Otto is currently acting he doesn't even seem like the same person that founded Parker Industries in the first place, but that's because Slott is a trash writer.

>>93511763
The last issue was gorgeous. By far it's strongest point.
Maybe he overexerted himself.

>>93511770
This Otto didn't experience his self-sacrifice.

>>93511488
HAHA TIME FOR OCK

>>93511745
Otto still believes in great power coming with great responsibility.

This writing is silly as fuck. It was painful. Don't think I like it very much...is this what Slott's writing usually is like?

>>93511607
She's being drawn as a midget for a change.

>>93511789
Well that's true. Probably right.

>>93511591
fuck

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>>93511768
is it just me or does otto's new design remind anyone else of skinny penguin?

>>93511722
Otto is right that he founded the company and Peter is a shitty CEO. Peter should have at least tried to negotiate something with Otto.

>>93511768
whe he seems Daken?

>>93511722
why he is an evil and megalomaniac guy and now serve Hydra?

>>93511694
>>93511753
>>93511768
This is the first time I can remember that a character who isn't that involved in an event's main storyline is getting totally fucked up anyway. Most tie-in issues just interrupt the main book's pacing.

>>93511928
No, Peter absolutely does not need to negotiate anything with the guy who stole his body and his life.

>>93511722
Probably because who knows what Otto would do with that much power.

>>93511954
He's only using Hydra for his plan against Parker Industries.

>>93511726
Already dead and in purgatory, as mentioned in Secret Empire.

>>93511574
>They called me mad when I built a nanobot Spider-Suit! But Who's Laughing Now?!
That's the only good part I remember from Unlimited but it was pretty damn good.

>>93511763
Would you bother bringing your A-game to anything written by Slott?

>>93511591
dats really cool

>>93511968
Fucking this. It's Otto that must make the first step back, all considered, but it's impossible. And I say that, although i liked Superior Otto, but it does not change the fact that he stole Peter's body.

>>93511722
How would that look?
>Outbreak of zombie virus caused by Webware
>Then Parker Industries invades a foreign country
>Then the CEO steps down to give control to a supervillain

>>93511920
He looks like a young Alfred Molina to me.

>>93512131
Well really, he'd be giving it over to Hydra. There's not much people can do right now, and it would be pretty easy to just say "there's nothing i can do, hail hydra"

And then when shit starts happening Peter can default all blame to Hydra and Ock

Alternatively, if Ock does it off the book and simply takes like 60/40 split with peter or something it could be beneficial to both parties especially if peter just wants to be spidey and ock just wants to run a successful business.

>>93511541
I want to do it to Anna Maria

>>93511504
>>93511513
How come Parker Industries faces all these dumb PR problems while Roxxon and other evil corporations do just fine?

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>>93511920
Slott wanted him to be based off of Richard Spencer. You know, really pound it into our heads of how being a Natzi is bad.

>>93512182
>I was just following orders!
>But I had no problem disobeying when SHIELD told me not to invade a foreign country
Yeah, that'd go over well.

>>93511591
>>93511604
>>93511622
Man, Otto must have been preety persuasive to convince Hydra to waste all these men on this one operation during the most crucial phase of their plans.

>>93511722
I honestly figured that's where this was going. Pete sells Otto half his shares, and they're forced to work together. Otto running the company most of the time, with Pete there acting as his conscience.

But that would be too interesting.

>>93511488
How's Otto alive again? I thought he died as a clone after he already died as Superior Spiderman

>>93511770
>you know what happened when Osborn put you in check
No he doesn't. This is the copy of Otto's mind that was made during Spider-verse, meaning it was the one from midway through Superior Spider-man (around issue 19) when he was at peak hubris and never had to deal with Osborn.

>>93512225
Because they are run by competent people. Parker is a moron and his second is a midget.

>>93511651
And there you have it, confirmation that Otto is the one that caused PI to miraculously go big. That one anon that insisted it was because of Secret Wars changing reality got BTFO.

>>93511768
Isn't this still Peter Parker's body? Does nobody recognize Peter Parker with a weird hairdo?

>>93512331
He transfered his mind to an even better clone. A superior clone if you will.

>>93512366
No. It's half-Peter, half-Otto. He took a Peter clone then spliced his own DNA into it. Genetically, he's basically the son of Peter and Otto.

>>93511528
Why does she have baby hands?

>>93512404
She's a dwarf.

>>93512377
One which isn't obese?

>>93512392
So hes is basically he has the same kind of shit going with him as Super Boy? So now Ock has amazing physical strength and agility on top of his mechanical arms. Could be cool I guess.

>>93512325
Yep, Is what I would like to see too.

I'm having a blast with this whole thing. What's all the hate about?

>>93512464
Yes. He also has spider powers.

>>93512225
Because they're ran by ruthless businessmen willing to do whatever it takes to be successful? Even here, this issue establishes that most of PI's successes were thanks to Ock doing shady, illegal shit behind the scenes.

>>93512310
I guess Hydra liked his plan to blame the Darkhold dome on Parker Industries.

>>93512392
>Otto has two daddies

>>93512484
Same. I was bored throughout the last arc. Mainly because I don't like the way Slott writes Norman. Whenever he's writing Otto, especially since Superior, I can feel like Slott is putting more effort.

>>93512507
Octopus powers. He has Octopus Sense, the relative strength and agility of an octopus, can stick to objects like an octopus and wears Ink Shooters.

>>93512541
>It's another Norman arc after this
He does know that Spidey has other villains, right?

I'm happy.

Digging the new Ock suit, just wish it was more akin to the Superior Spider-man design.

>>93512484
I couldn't even finish the last arc out of boredom. Tried to power through it for the art but I just couldn't care less. Wasn't even worth pirating because of how shit it was. This issue had me excited the whole way through. I genuinely like how Slott writes Ock.

>>93512512
What does that have to do with avoiding the consequences of bad PR? Roxxon was once ran by the fucking Red Skull, has hired multiple super-villains and its latest CEO almost dropped his floating death island on Manhattan.

Why does Slott have such a boner for Otto, anyways?

Is it because they're both obese?

>>93512541
>>93512583
Fun fact: this issue was actually co-written by Christos Gage.

>>93511559
>You're not just a bad C.E.O., you're a pretty lousy friend, too.
I don't think I've ever held this much contempt for a Spidey girl before.

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>>93511488

Can someone explain the Slott hate to me?
His spidey series' have been the few comics (as a whole, not just Marvlel) that I've been reading consistantly.

>>93511677
Posting images in the middle of a story time thread.
>idiot

>>93512753
Poor characterization/characters being out of character completely, contrived reasons why villains get away (see the last two times Osborn got away), everything with Carly, and everyone getting hit by the stupid stick during Superior Spider-man.

I don't hate him but his Spider-man work is really missing a soul compared to other writers on the title in the past.

>>93512225
Lawyers, Evil Lawyers

>>93512753
>Can someone explain the Slott hate to me?

No use explaining. You have shit-taste.

>>93511528
You're gay Bobby

>>93511664
>a good costume is worth giving money to a bad writer

>>93512541
Slott writes Otto very well but these days, not much anyone else.
Which is a problem when the book isn't about Otto.

Maybe they should just give him is own series so Slott can work on that and give the main title to someone who wants to write about Peter. Then everyone could be happy.

>>93512892
Lawyers can do nothing against bad PR.

Thanks, OP. Slott must really love the taste of Otto's dick for him to still be sucking it like this.

>>93513288
That would be for the best, but you know that Slott would be allowed to keep writing ASM while also writing a Doc Ock book.

>>93511725
How many times did Peter web Otto's eyes? I swear it's at least once per every fight they ever had

>>93512392
So it's fucking Superboy all over again?

>>93511513
>P: I'm being told Earth is under alien attack.
>WELP, THIS HAS BEEN A NICE INTERVIEW, BUT I'VE GOTTA-
>A: DON'T.

>>93511677
>>93511726
Cheesecakefag, I wish I remembered what you called yourself in CBR before they banned you, because your brand of autism is something else.

>>93511604
why wouldn't he web them up

its fucking hydra

>>93512624
It's friendly banter.

She needs to keep some distance too otherwise she'll end jumping on his dick again.

>>93512586
It's easy to avoid bad PR when you bribe or assassinate anyone that would give you bad PR.

>>93513528
As long as she doesn't have access to a trampoline, she won't have to worry about that.

>>93512205
calm down Slott

>>93513750
>>93512205
How good are midgets in bed anyway?

>>93511622
HEAVEN OR HELL LET'S ROCK

>>93512624
Carlie Cooper.

Just bring the marriage back already.

>>93511768
I'll be honest, I'm hyped for what's following for Spidey and Otto. Spidey hasn't even appeared on the main event, that's right? Maybe he's hiding on Bagalia.

>>93511722
>Peter Parker
>Being reasonable with baddies and presumed baddies

Have you ever read Spider-Man? Pete's rarely reasonable.

>>93513889
Nope, not even her. I was pretty neutral about Anna Maria up until Clone Conspiracy, but she was just horrible there.

>>93513750
Not him, but after seeing that SG midget, I, too, want to fuck a midget.

So how is this new Cap stuff? I haven't been following NuMarvel, but it looks surprisingly intriguing and now it's affecting Spider-Man.

>>93514275
Really good, although Secret Empire definitely has some disappointing moments.

>>93511541
Why is Anna always right? Because she's always right.

>>93512225
any accidents Parkers company faces he doesn't try to cover it up like any regular corporations do

>>93514300
>Really good
This surprises me, but I guess I'll check it out.

>>93511504
Anna Maria is one of my favorite "new" Marvel characters. Which is kind of sad in a way.

i think this is the first time anna maria is drawn like a midget, where as previously she was drawn like a little kid

I was hoping for more of a fight between doc and spidy. Physically the same and decked out with a bunch of tech shit and all we got was just some coffee thrown

>>93514704
>Tech gets destroyed during the fight
>Webshooters destroyed, mechanical arms broken
>Ends up being a one-on-one fist fight until one of them stays down
Is that so much to ask?

>>93514704
>>93514815
It's just the beginning. I hope the showdown is less of a disappointment than the one with Norman last issue.

>>93514864
I wouldn't get my hopes up. Ten to one, Otto ends up escaping.

>>93514053
Anon, it's friendly banter, do you not bantz with your friends? It's what happens when you're comfortable enough around someone that you can say stuff like that without hurting their feelings.

>>93514987
My guess is the next big Spider-Man event involves Osborn and Otto teaming up. Though it'd have to be a good reason considering Osborn murdered Otto's ex-fiance.

>>93515055
I make fun of their hair or something stupid they said, not the massive failings in their life.
>Wow, Tom, you're almost as bad at driving as you are at holding a steady job!

>>93511676
>ugh... "Web-Warriors"
Otto says what we're all thinking

>>93515196
Being a bad friend is legit just casual banter, anon, it's not like she went "wow you're the worst friend anyone could ever have" it meant nothing, and to be fair Peter is kind of a pretty neglectful friend most of the time.

>>93515196
He's still a billionaire with superhero vigor to pound pussy in a way no normal man can ever achieve and both of them know it.

It's just banter. She followed the lousy friend joke with an invitation to hang out before it was interrupted.

So... Peter Parker being married and with kids makes him too "old" for audiences to relate... but being a CEO of a large corporation does not...
Ok... can't argue with that, seriously, i can't. Totally plausible.

>>93511768

Not a bad issue. Hopefully it'll be a decent arc after the shitty one with Osborne... and the shitty one with clone saga... and the shitty one before that...

>>93512464
yes, probably his also Slott's secret desire.

>>93512052
What I remember most of Unlimited is that it got canceled right after a giant cliff-hanger...

>>93512583
the problem is that a good writer know how write all the cast, not only his favorite characters. seems a damn fan-fiction.

>>93512753
bad writing in general, poor characterization of character that he dont like, arc the always end in an anti-climax and especially because he write Peter like a man-child.

>>93514335
General reading order is:
>Avengers: Standoff!
>Captain America: Steve Rogers 1-10
>Civil War II: The Oath
>Captain America: Steve Rogers 11-15
>Secret Empire

>>93511725
>Oh no, TWO pots of coffee, my one weakness

>>93511780
>but that's because Slott is a trash writer.

Answer to all this shit.

>>93515255
I meant the bit about him being a bad CEO. I mean, he is, definitely, but between the Webware stuff and losing SHIELD business, I think he's got enough people telling him that.

>>93511722
>handing over your company to a known super villain
>who has repeatedly tried to take over organized crime in NYC
>and once tried to destroy the world

Yeah, that's not retarded.

>>93512464
Don't worry, after Spider-Man kicks his ass again, Otto is going to stress eat until he's fat.

>>93515290
Miles changes everything for peter

>>93515290
go on twitter and tell Marvel to bring back Mayday and MC2

>>93511541
>an enlarged liver and an artificial heart

I love her.

>>93511722
Because even if he has reformed, Otto is still an unstable egomaniac who tried to destroy the world.

>>93511528

Is it me or Carol's hair looks worse every time she shows up?

>>93511753
>tfw you realize Doc Ock just destroyed the Baxter Building

He's really come up in the world

>>93517184
That's not the Baxter Building, that's the Parker Industries London branch. The Baxter Building is in the Manhattan Darkforce dome.

>>93511722
Otto is a nutcase

>>93511722
better question: why doesn't otto just make his own company? with his experience he could run peter's to the ground

>>93511722

Because Otto STOLE HIS BODY, and STOLE HIS LIFE. He also caused untold harm to the multiverse when he killed the Great Weaver.

Also, lots of murders. Otto is a piece of shit, remember? He tried to destroy the world several times.

Frankly, after Superior, Otto should be a 'kill on sight' villain for Spidey. Like, this should have really ended with Peter going "If that's the way you want it, Otto" and literally ripping him apart, limb from limb.

It's like Norman Osborn. When the Green Goblin shows up, he should get no mercy.

>>93513309
Yeah they can. Just look at irl where they litigate the shit out of any possible bad press.

>>93518993
The real Otto Octacius died back in Spider-Man #700 too so it's not even murder, since he's an Otto AI in a flesh suit.

>>93518993
>literally ripping him apart, limb from limb.

Not only would that be out of character, but current Otto has physical capabilities equivalent to those of spiderman. He can't just be ripped to pieces.

I like Otto, but I am sick of all this Dock Ock dick sucking Slott does. We get it, Otto is your self insert, and now he is young and skinny and better than Parker.

I will say I like the new design of the suit, and the story wasn't bad for a slott piece.

>>93519393
Doc Ock is one of the major characters of Slott's run. Also the most interesting one at the moment.

>>93518993
Otto has also done quite a bit of good. He even paid the waiter at the end of this issue. He's not quite as crazy as he was pre-Superior.

>>93511488
>the SUPERIOR man comes back
>peterfags are assflustered again even if otto isn't spiderman

>>93511622
>IT'S ME AUSTIN
>IT WAS ME ALL ALONG

>>93519722
Who is Austin?

>>93511637
I'd like to see a what-if where Otto accepts Peter's offer and they team up.

>>93511677

Fuck off

>>93511792

Can I just say that Doctor Octopus as an evil parallel to Spider-man is far better than Venom ever was?

>>93521270
I agree. He's always been an evil parallel to Spider-Man. Way before Slott wrote him. Slott just took it to the best extreme.

>>93511622

I love how Peter isn't even surprised an enemy is back from the dead at this point.

>>93519550
That's probably because him being evil was mostly brain damage. the problem is that at this point writers have either forgotten it or it's been going on so long that it's now an established part of his core personality.

>>93522276
Mostly, but Otto always had ample reason to snap. Accident or not.

>>93511488
Thanks

While Slott was too incompetent to make Norman's wild ride entertaining, I guess Otto being a madman is the next best thing. This is already better than the previous arc.

>>93523975
He tires with Norman but it doesn't feel like like he enjoys writing him as much as he does with Otto. I mostly blame the fact that Norman still doesn't know who Spider-Man is post-OMD. Now the personal rivalry feels mostly one-sided. At least Doc Ock and Peter have a more personal rivalry. I want Norman to relearn Peter's identity when he returns, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Pretty good start.

this was a fun book I don't understand any of the criticism

>>93511488
When will doctor fucks ock off already

>>93515290
BRUCE WAYNE- BILLIONAIRE PLAYBOY

>>93515290
>he's not the CEO of a large corporation
lol poorfag

>>93511835
>has the same values as Peter
>has a clone of Peter's body
>is obsessed with showing Peter how he could do things in a "superior" way

So Otto is now something like Reverse Flash

>>93512470
yes. he also has the precog. and yes, he's referring to it as his 'octo-sense'